Dr. Octagon
The Return of Dr. Octagon


1.5
very poor

Review

by sinnersparadice USER (14 Reviews)
January 25th, 2009 | 13 replies | 4,915 views


Release Date: 2006 | Tracklist


1 of 1 thought this review was well written

Six years after the release of his seminole solo debut Dr. Octagonecologyst, engagingly warped rapper Kool Keith announced his plans to begin work on a follow-up called The Resurrection of Dr. Octagon, but alas, it was not to be. The resulting struggles have been the result of much controversy, but Keith -- as Dr. Dooom -- later straightened the story out for those of us that were confused:

I stabbed him over 17 times
But you people out there wouldn't let him die
Y'all put him on the respirator
The critics that gave him mouth to mouth resuscitation was a hater


Basically, Keith, ashamed of the major success of Dr. Octagonecologyst, decided to kill off his creation by inventing a new creation for the record First Come, First Served, and then later changed his mind. This turned out to be a bad idea, as the producer Keith teamed up with -- Fanatik-J -- tried to take over the project, and Keith got into a dispute with the distributing label, CMH Records, a company known for putting out cover albums of non-country songs in country form. The result was that four years after the project was announced, a previously-unknown label called OCD International -- actually a subsidiary of CMH, put out an album called The Return of Dr. Octagon, consisting of three actual tracks and eleven cuts cobbled together from tapes Keith gave the label in order to get out of his contract.

The result sounds about what you'd expect. To say that the production -- by One Watt Sun -- is not as good as that of Dr. Octagonecologyst would be an understatement. Still, there are many good spots here in there, the best-sounding being "Aliens" and "Ants", which sound the most like actual Kool Keith cuts. The problem lies in the rest of the material. It's fairly obvious that Keith was not involved in any way with the majority of the production. Even "Trees", which Keith was involved with, does not sound like a Kool Keith track. The poppy environmentally-conscious electro-funk is a supreme oddity in a discography of odd albums and tracks. This track, as with many of the tracks on the album, is just too light and fluffy-sounding. One would expect an Dr. Octagon album to sound dark. The kind of pop music presented here does not fit what we expect from the name formerly attached to eerie tracks like "Blue Flowers".

Elsewhere, country and electro are somewhat successfully fused on "A Gorilla Driving A Pick-Up Truck", while "Eat It" is dark-sounding enough to pass for an Octagon track, but there is not a semblance of an attempt to create a successful collaboration with Princess Superstar, whose rantings are at the forefront of "Eat It". I thought this was a Dr. Octagon album. Who the hell are you? The rest of the album sounds decent in terms of production value, but the R&B and pop-based instrumentals do not synch up with the artificial weirdness of Keith's vocals.

The Return of Dr. Octagon has a few noteworthy moments of interest, but there's just no way to defend a Kool Keith album that Keith himself had very little to do with. Apparently, though, Keith does not seem to be offended by the album, as it does not receive the same treatment that his website gives to the discontinued bootleg Dr. Octagon II, put together by Reel Talk Records, and Keith actual wound up stating at one point or another that he thought the production was well done, which is true, but Keith's further remarks -- that the instrumentals do not fit the album -- are even more so. The Return of Dr. Octagon is two separate albums mixed together - an instrumental album, and a vocal album that has been chopped up beyond recognition, and artificially edited into something that should have never been.

As far as Dr. Octagon fans should be concerned, there never was a resurrection. Octagon briefly had the time to spit out two more intergalactic musings before being shot in the head by Dr. Dooom. Buy a copy of Dr. Dooom 2. If you desperately want to hear something from The Return, "Ants" is the best of the two good songs.



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Comments:Add a Comment 
VapidAbortionist
January 25th 2009



70 Comments


sounds real gassy

DFelon204409
Emeritus
January 25th 2009



3995 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

Ya this album is so bloated and disappointing.

Iluvatar
Staff Reviewer
January 25th 2009



16083 Comments


Its not really a Dr Octagon album without Dan

MassiveAttack
January 26th 2009



2688 Comments

Album Rating: 1.5

this album was terrible. But yea Iluvatar is correct Dan wasn't on this at all. So boring and repetitive in some ways.

bastard
January 26th 2009



3435 Comments


this is so meh, nice review mang.

mastershmiddy
April 23rd 2009



4 Comments


Dr. Octagon - Automator - Q-Bert = Not Dr. Octagon

totally2dope
April 29th 2009



2 Comments

Album Rating: 1.0

Kool Keith is Dr. Octagon.

kuririn
November 19th 2009



65 Comments


i fuckin knew this was too good to be true

somberlain
April 27th 2010



2121 Comments


"Its not really a Dr Octagon album without Dan"

well this doesn't really have Kool Keith either, it's just cutting room floor stuff

WilliaMega
May 22nd 2010



112 Comments


cutting room floor stuff

whats that?

Dryden
May 22nd 2010



12928 Comments


just that

somberlain
May 22nd 2010



2121 Comments


"cutting room floor stuff"

stuff that didn't make it on the original Dr. Octagon album, outtakes, scraps


Drsmith4
August 18th 2012



1715 Comments


didn't know kool keith had roots in the seminole tribes!



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