Trivium
Shogun


2.0
poor

Review

by username345 USER (52 Reviews)
September 24th, 2008 | 136 replies | 9,716 views


Release Date: 2008 | Tracklist

Review Summary: An improvement on 'The Crusade' but still a weak album, too long and ruined by Heafy's dreadful vocals.

3 of 6 thought this review was well written

While Trivium have always from the very beginning been a controversial band that most people seem to either love or hate, they received most of their criticism from fans and haters alike after their previous 2006 release, 'The Crusade'. On 'The Crusade' they took their Metallica influences to a whole new level and were attacked for being nothing more than a cheap imitation, and even for stealing from the band. On 'Shogun', Trivium have taken the criticism and moved back towards the earlier sound of their 2005 album 'Ascendancy', but with newer influences that never overbear on their music or 'rip-off' other bands. The production is also quite good, staying heavy but allowing for quite a melodic sound.

Despite the terrible cheesy song titles where Trivium don't seem to be able to decide if their album has a feudal Japanese or an ancient Greek theme, the songwriting is much improved from 'The Crusade'. While the songs all follow quite a simple formula, there are definitely some catchy riffs and decent solos all through the album and Trivium seem to mainly have escaped the Metallica 'inspired' sound of 'The Crusade'. While the riffs are often still quite thrashy, they never come at all close to sounding like Metallica clones. The rest of the instrumentation is also pretty impressive and much improved from previous releases, though the focus is definitely on the guitars.

Matt Heafy has also stopped singing in the same style as Metallica's James Hetfield, now using a style more similar to his earlier work, albeit improved. The screams of the earlier albums are also back, even though Heafy previously stated that he didn't like bands that scream.

The problem is, while the clean singing is definitely improved from before, the vocals are still absolutely horrible and destroy any enjoyment gained from the catchy guitars. The best parts of the album are the song introductions before Heafy opens his mouth and the solos. While there are at times quite catchy vocal melodies like those on the choruses of 'Kirisute Gomen' and 'The Calamity', the clean singing is usually very monotonous and at times slightly whiny, though not nearly as bad as they were on the first few albums, and at least he's not merely mimicking Hetfield anymore. The screamed vocals though are completely atrocious. Coming in at often predictable times they sound far too weak and forced, often ruining the music.

At over an hour long, the album does definitely drag on for far too long and many of the songs definitely last far longer than they need to. 'Shogun' especially is one of the best tracks but at over 10 minutes is especially guilty of this. All of the catchy choruses (and they aren't often that catchy) Trivium can throw in can't save the album from ending up sounding boring, predictable and repetitive. If some of the weaker tracks like 'Of Prometheus and the Crucifix' were taken out the album would more enjoyable on the whole.

Despite a few changes, nothing really changes much and the album follows a similar formula throughout, which eventually gets boring. Many of the guitar riffs are quite bland and generic, with few being really impressive. The acoustic section at the start of 'Kirisute Gomen' fails to create any real atmosphere and sounds out of place, and despite the huge hype around them, many of the solos are technically quite impressive though often actually quite boring to listen to. The other instruments merely do their jobs without adding much more to the music.

Overall, 'Shogun' is an improvement on 'The Crusade' and much more of Trivium's own sound, but is too long, and despite being improved, Matt Heafy's vocals are often absolutely terrible, destroying the rest of the music.



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bastard
September 24th 2008



3435 Comments


Exxxcellent. I hate this album and it needed a negative review.

pos.

username345
September 24th 2008



594 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Might even lower it to a 1.5 :D

SnackaryBinx
September 24th 2008



2309 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

pretty good review. I can't stand this guys vocals

bastard
September 24th 2008



3435 Comments


lower it to a 1 because it's Ascendancy + Crusade.

BallsToTheWall
September 24th 2008



44164 Comments

Album Rating: 3.0

Yeah do what bastard said...Not, this is hardly a one but unfortunately this is already starting to decline on me.

Platonism
September 24th 2008



168 Comments


You know, regardless of your petty dislikes for Heafy's voice or your dislike for the type of underwear the drummer wears, they musicianship is great, their songwriting is damn fun. I'm not saying they're the best band in the world but this 'I hate Trivium' bandwagon is fucking ridiculous.

bustyagunz
September 24th 2008



911 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

not a 1, no matter how much you can hate Trivium, the riffs, solos, and improved drumming warrant a 1.5 at least..... lol

Edit: /agree with PlatoThis Message Edited On 09.24.08

username345
September 24th 2008



594 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Yeah, it's not a 1. It's much better than Doomthrone. That is a 1.

bastard
September 24th 2008



3435 Comments


Doomthrone is like the epitome of a 1.

This album is nearing a 1.5 for me, but I still think it is one of the most atrocious things i've heard in my life. The riffs are all stale, and the drummer, while improved, is still not too special for his genre. Heafy is just awful all around, those screams, the cleans, the Hetfields, all bad. I can understand why someone would like it, but I can't stand it at all.

Just my opinion at work.

Platonism
September 24th 2008



168 Comments


Wait, this is one of the most atrocious things you've heard in your life? Compared to all music...c'mon, seriously.

bustyagunz
September 24th 2008



911 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

omg, i had never heard of that doomthrone ****, and I just did
and now my head hurts
that **** is worse than a 1

bastard
September 24th 2008



3435 Comments


Yeah Seriously. I mean, it's not DoomThrone bad or post Nimrod Green Day bad, but it's pretty dang hard to listen to.

If you are going to say something along the lines of "what about mainstream hip hop & R&B" I will strangle you.This Message Edited On 09.24.08

Mikesn
Emeritus
September 24th 2008



3709 Comments

Album Rating: 2.5

What about St. Anger

bastard
September 24th 2008



3435 Comments


Yeah that's pretty bad too.

bustyagunz
September 24th 2008



911 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

what about soulja boy, the crusade, mims, keak da sneak, atreyu's greatest hits, any korn after their greatest hits, kattun, doomthrone, new panic at the disco, southern cowboy rock metal, and nelly?

bastard
September 24th 2008



3435 Comments


Soulja Boy is pure entertainment value, his music is self-paroding.

I've said over and over this is better than The Crusade, which is a valid 0.5.

MIMS is entertaining at times, but arrogant and lacks lyrical ability.

Never heard Keak Da Sneak

Atreyu is the worst metalcore band known to man

I like Korn except for Untitled and Untouchables

Doomthrone is damn awful

new Panic is decent, but kind of like Crusade in rip offyness.

HellYeah is moronic, but about two of their songs are good.

Never cared for Nelly, so never really gave him a listen.

Platonism
September 24th 2008



168 Comments


or...Brittney Spears, Limp Bizkit, Nickleback, Creed, Devil Wears Prada, Emmure, new E-40...there is so much bad music, and if this was a black and white world, this would be in the good section.

bastard
September 24th 2008



3435 Comments


ugh...

I am not going to do this anymore.

Look, I enjoy this a bit more than when I sound-offed, it's bad, but I am going to move this up to a 1.5. Now you kids can get off my lawn!

bustyagunz
September 24th 2008



911 Comments

Album Rating: 3.5

k, pertaining to the review
you really contradict yourself, starting out with

The rest of the instrumentation is also pretty impressive and much improved from previous releases, though the focus is definitely on the guitars.

to
Many of the guitar riffs are quite bland and generic, with few being really impressive. The acoustic section at the start of 'Kirisute Gomen' fails to create any real atmosphere and sounds out of place, and despite the huge hype around them, many of the solos are technically quite impressive though often actually quite boring to listen to. The other instruments merely do their jobs without adding much more to the music.

This is very well-written, far better than mine, but yea, it starts out like your gonna rate this a 3.5 or something, and then all of a sudden its a 1.5.

username345
September 24th 2008



594 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

Eh, I just didn't word it very well. I mean the guitars are all very technically impressive, and the focus is definitely on them mainly but I still think they're quite boring despite this. I might reword it later, I'm going off now.



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