Hopesfall
A Types


4.0
excellent

Review

by Nick Greer EMERITUS
January 17th, 2005 | 59 replies | 13,659 views


Release Date: 2004 | Tracklist


For me, Hopesfall existed in a weird state of being; while some bands like Thrice used screaming as an opportunity to crescendo or escalade a moment in the song above their normal singing, Hopesfall inverted this state by interjecting beautiful melodic vocals at the exact point in the furious screaming that can make a man's grundle tingle. Because Jay, the screamer, decided he "really wanted to sing on the new album," sort of ruined my pre-established love of the band and also my first listen of the CD. I sat there thinking"why?" especially in the light of the fact that Hopesfall had named their CD A Types and described the album as one in which "their writing seemed to leap to a new complexity this time around" (Press Packet). Most bands, when asserting that they have thrust forward in the realm of writing and complexity, are likening themselves to the uber-technicality of a Dillinger Escape Plan or Pysopus, but no, Hopesfall decided their path would fall closer to a Further Seems Forever with testicles. Is this bad? Fuck no. I didn't believe it for a while myself but once I had dropped my disappointment with the style change I started to notice the layers and beauties of this album.


Firstly, the song structure can be unreal. Hopesfall had always written some songs with interesting time signatures or asymmetric structures, but this new CD has as amazing system of varying mode. The lyrics are written in the insert as mere poems because, while their quality is pretty standard fare, their placement within the songs seems immaculate. Take the single "Icarus," for example. On it, there are repeated verses and choruses but they are repeated fractionally and lines and stanzas are split to make room for other interludes, which fragment the song into many subsections that glimmer on their own like facets on a diamond, but of course, the real beauty lies in the whole glowing diamond. The songs have an amazing cohesion even in the midst of those Hopesfall tempo shifts and time signature changes. "Owl" serves as the best example of this by mixing 7/8 and 8/8 seamlessly throughout the song. The musicianship is as tight and inventive as the songs themselves, leaving well-written music in the wake of some interesting and unexpected convergences. The only region that this CD makes concessions to the aforementioned structural genius is on the notably simpler songs like "It Happens" and "Breathe from Coma."

Secondly, Jay is a sick singer. If he weren't, this CD would be ruined. The vocal tone is really attractive unlike his trebly, reverb-laden droning on The Satellite Years. Jay's voice has a lot of character and reminds me of Dustin Kensrue's from Thrice, mostly because of its ability to
move from singing to screaming smoothly as well as how impassioned it is, even at its weakest moments. Also, the melodic lines he sings are varied and interesting. I find many singers have great voices but trash them on boring and trite or unattractive melodies. Some terrible singers like the ever pubescent Chris Carraba, admittedly sings some cool melodies. If you don't believe me listen to "Monechetti" from when he was still in Further Seems Forever. Jay single handedly elevates even the more trite songs like "It Happens" and "Breathe from Coma" that I mentioned earlier with his sensational vocal performances.

Thirdly, the tones in general on this CD are pretty ill. This CD is well produced without being overproduced, which is something many bands lose sight of when they get a larger budget and fancier tools. My favorite example of tonal excellence is on the song "The Ones," in which the sort of airy delayed guitar from the verses is extended into the outro with this soaring whistling. It's cool (and nerdy I know) to be able to get excited about the different effects a band has managed to use in diversifying their CD. I really appreciate that Hopesfall spent a month in the studio with something like 14-hour workdays to make this album happen with such subtle precision.

I think I've praised this CD a bit too much though. There are some glaring flaws, like the mediocre lyrics I mentioned earlier, and also, this hardly is Hopesfall anymore. They have had many member changes and have completely changed their style and genre (which I had never and can still not really discern without doing great injustices to the music). I find this to be acceptable as the end result is something I find palatable and in fact exceptional, but I'm sure many kids who refuse to listen to anything that could be considered poppy, will post a lot on message boards saying, "hopesfall r a bunch of fuking phags." If you have enough grey matter to decipher what I have found within this awesome CD and probably more, then check out this CD. Otherwise, listen to some generic clusterfuck like Atreyu and leave Hopesfall alone.

Standout tracks: Icarus, The Ones, Matchmaker's Haven, Owl



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cbmartinez
January 17th 2005



2523 Comments


Awesome man. The review came out a little messy but mine will be up soon.

BuddyBigsby
January 20th 2005



531 Comments


Great album, great review. mehhhhh reviewer.

Sep
January 21st 2005



295 Comments


Nice review man. What would you rate it out of /5?

choke383
January 21st 2005



66 Comments


exelent album, me too at first I was dissapointed in there change. But its comes out alot better than I thought. I now listen to this album constantly.
There is like ...Champion Beyond Blessing ...I think, becomes repeatetive a bit.
4/5
its great work.
good review

DFelon204409
Emeritus
January 22nd 2005



3995 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I figured it to be an 8.4 with The Satellite Years being an 8.6. Or those two inverted. I sort of forget to be honest. A Types would logically be the 8.4 because that wouuld round down to 4 stars but I dunno. Whichever one I'm listening to at the moment I prefer.

BuddyBigsby
January 26th 2005



531 Comments


"The Ones" is really a pretty fucking amazing song.

DFelon204409
Emeritus
January 26th 2005



3995 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Truf.

cbmartinez
January 27th 2005



2523 Comments


I would rank this above The Satellite Years.

DFelon204409
Emeritus
June 10th 2005



3995 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

Upon relistening to "Icarus" in the airport I realized that the first section of the song is ucking sweet. All of the instruments are doing their own thing melodically and rhythmically but they all fuse together for one sweet macrosound. Dear Jesus I have a boner just thinking about it.

DFelon204409
Emeritus
October 22nd 2005



3995 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I didn't put this in post-rock and 90% of Hopesfall's music now and throughout thir career is hardcore. I'll move it back.

Storm In A Teacup
January 16th 2006



11573 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

This is almost perfect in my book.

ActAppalled
January 16th 2006



22 Comments


great album from a great band. i think the progression in their music was for the better, if they basically did the same thing as "the satellite years" it just would've been boring. good review too

Storm In A Teacup
January 16th 2006



11573 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

[quote=DFelon]Upon relistening to "Icarus" in the airport I realized that the first section of the song is ucking sweet. All of the instruments are doing their own thing melodically and rhythmically but they all fuse together for one sweet macrosound. Dear Jesus I have a boner just thinking about it.[/quote]
I know, I love that song. I love listening to it when I walk to places, I'll put my iPod on one repeat, and just listen to it only. It had been the #1 played song on my older iPod with around 450 plays, only the song Skeleton Jar from Youth Group could come close to it with around 200 something listens. MY GOD IS HOPESFALL GREAT!

Storm In A Teacup
January 21st 2006



11573 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

[quote=review]like the mediocre lyrics I mentioned earlier[/quote]
Hmm, the lyrics aren't that great, I admit. However, lately I don't really look at lyrics when I judge a CD anymore. Besides, Jay makes up for it with his awesome voice. It's too bad there are great reviews for this, and TSY, otherwise I would be all over this.

weezer1208
March 8th 2006



24 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

i wasn't sure if i liked this album or not at first. before buying this all i had heard by hopesfall was the bending, which in my opinion is one of the greatest songs ever written. but now i realize how great this album is, from the poppy it happens to the explosive per sempre marciamo.

i have grown to be a huge hopesfall fan. i was wondering if anyone planned on reviewing their ep, no wings to speak of?

DFelon204409
Emeritus
March 8th 2006



3995 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

I could as I have a pretty sick familiarity with that EP (I got pretty obsessive about it) but if you want to go ahead.

weezer1208
March 9th 2006



24 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

no, i dont want to i just wanted to know if any one was going to.

Storm In A Teacup
March 23rd 2006



11573 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

DFelon, do you know if you'll review their EP? I don't have it, and I want to see a review of it. Or you can just tell me if it's like The Satellite Years.

DFelon204409
Emeritus
March 23rd 2006



3995 Comments

Album Rating: 4.0

How about I IM it to you and you review it. IM me @ DFelon204409

Storm In A Teacup
March 23rd 2006



11573 Comments

Album Rating: 4.5

I only have MSN, not AIM, I tried downloading it, but I'm not very good at CP stuff, and did something wrong. I'm not a very smart person.
And I guess you can't attach large thingies through e-mail.



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