I Killed The Prom Queen
When Goodbye Means Forever


1.5
very poor

Review

by rasputin USER (196 Reviews)
February 24th, 2008 | 64 replies


Release Date: 2004 | Tracklist

Review Summary: Fanboys, rejoice! For I have come to spread the Word and save you from the dark. Or not.

How and why this band ever garnered a following is beyond me. They were only around a few years, released two extremely poor albums, and then broke up. The worst thing about it was that people were actually SAD about them breaking up. I just don’t understand.

When Goodbye Means Forever is IKTPQ’s first album, and is some of the most uninspired and dull hardcore I have ever heard. These guys make Parkway Drive look like hardcore gods. You’re probably wondering what makes them so bad, and I can answer you in one word: everything. From the music, to the vocals, to the guitars, to the music, just everything. The only thing which I can say I liked about this album was a single tune in one of the songs. Other than that, everything was horrible.

The first thing to point out about the album is that there is absolutely no variety whatsoever. Every song follows the same formula, has the exact same sound as the song before it and after it, and falls to the same problems as the rest of the songs. If IKTPQ had released the song Pointed to My Heart by itself and called it their debut album, I would have rated it higher. That is the one song which I enjoyed, due to a nice melody that it had. This sets it apart from all the other songs, mainly because none of the other songs even have any sort of decent melody. All there is is just a load of crappy breakdowns, and horrible vocal combinations.

To its own disadvantage, this album has some of the worst breakdowns I’ve ever heard. None of them are even memorable, and the fact that each song has at least 327 of them makes it a very bad thing. In this regard, the musicianship and songwriting ability of this band is just mediocre. There is no progression whatsoever; the band is stuck in a rut, a rut in which they were stuck in until their much rejoiced break-up. Well, I rejoiced. In When Goodbye Means Forever, the band opts to throw technicality, melody, and their reputation as musicians, right out the window. This album is a shoddy reproduction of every other hardcore album to have ever existed, and was simply ‘manufactured’ to appeal to the countless dumbarses out there who’ll lap up every single word that comes out of Crafter’s mouth.

This brings us to the vocals. Oh, oh, oh. Michael Crafter is the vocalist, if that’s what you call it these days. His harsh vocals are some of THE worst I have heard, even worse than Anders Friden of In Flames (who I think is one of the worst vocalists in metal, period). There is no variation or diversity in Crafter’s voice at all; he retains the exact same tone and pitch for the entire album. By the third song, you become really sick of it. The worst part about it is that Crafter actually tries to sing. I haven’t emphasized the word ‘tries’, but I should have. His singing is absolutely horrible. Combine this with his horrible harsh vocals, and what you have is an album with crappy vocals.

To top it off, I’ll mention the lyrics. They are very bad, very bad indeed. Think cheesy, heart-tearing lyrics done completely wrong, and you’ve basically summed up When Goodbye Means Forever. I won’t go into details, but I’ll point out one of the song titles: ‘Roses, Post Cards & Machine Gun Kisses’. Need I say more?

Overall, there is no reason why anybody with an idea about music should listen to this album. Everything on it is terrible, and the way in which it’s done is even worse. You’d be much better off NOT listening to this album. If you must have hardcore, get Unearth, Converge, even Parkway Drive, but never even bother to think about listening to this album/band. Sorry fanboys, this album sucks.



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Comments:Add a Comment 
rasputin
February 24th 2008


14555 Comments


Sorry if this comes off as a bit of a rant, but this album REALLY sucks. Point out any typos and such please.
Actually, I'm going to edit out the swearing, the stars make it look bad, aesthetically.This Message Edited On 02.24.08

combustion07
February 24th 2008


5420 Comments

Album Rating: 2.0

This does suck..

HighandDriving
February 24th 2008


3288 Comments


These guys have never really impressed me on past listening.

rasputin
February 24th 2008


14555 Comments


They have nothing to impress you with. They had a different vocalist for the second album, who was decent because he had a nice range (nothing like the one on this album). That's about the only thing I can say worthwhile about the band.

Eakflanderyof
February 24th 2008


2143 Comments


Wow, Roses, Post Cards, and Machine Gun Kisses is such an Atreyu title. Actually, all of these titles make them seem like a wannabe Atreyu. Atreyu is pretty damn bad so if you're a wannabe Atreyu band you must be really bad.This Message Edited On 02.24.08

eggsvonsatan
February 24th 2008


1087 Comments


I really don't understand why metalcore is still popular. I hopped on the bandwagon several years back, but none of these bands have any lasting power. I don't understand how anyone can listen to a KSE or Trivium album more than twice without getting bored.
So predictable, so short-lived.

rasputin
February 24th 2008


14555 Comments


yeah, and this band is the ultimate rip-off of every crappy metalcore band. You can't get much worse than this.

ninjuice
February 24th 2008


6760 Comments


Seems fairly biased but it's still a good review. Sounds pretty horrible.

rasputin
February 24th 2008


14555 Comments


I know, it comes off as a little biased, but if you listen to the album you'll realise it's not bias at all.

eggsvonsatan
February 24th 2008


1087 Comments


I think the general nature of an album review is biased. Bias is kind of inevitable, and not necessarily a bad thing.

BallsToTheWall
February 24th 2008


44785 Comments


Killswitch is awesome, stfu. Heaven Shall Burn too. Good review, band sucks the cack though.

Digging: Pink Turns Blue - If Two Worlds Kiss

eggsvonsatan
February 24th 2008


1087 Comments


KSE is the epitome of what's wrong with metal today. nuff said

rasputin
February 24th 2008


14555 Comments


band sucks the cack though.

lmao, that's brilliant. I haven't heard enough of KSE to really judge them, but what I have heard didn't really impress me.

BallsToTheWall
February 24th 2008


44785 Comments


More like the bands that copy Kse who can't really play. Killswitch do it better than most, and do it well in the process. The End Of Heartache, ftw.

ninjuice
February 24th 2008


6760 Comments


^ What Balls said, although there are a couple other standout metalcore bands IMO.

Eakflanderyof
February 24th 2008


2143 Comments


Killswitch is awesome, stfu. Heaven Shall Burn too. Good review, band sucks the cack though.


Yea, I agree that heaven shall burn. Killswitch is no more than okay, though. They have a few decent songs.

Also, it's pretty impossible to have a review without any bias when it's all personal opinion. You're probably going to have some bias against a band and album if they suck.


rasputin
February 24th 2008


14555 Comments


You're probably going to have some bias against a band and album if they suck.

Agreed.

Bfhurricane
February 24th 2008


6197 Comments


Anders Friden of In Flames (who I think is one of the worst vocalists in metal, period).

Ouch. Besides that, nice review. Ive grown off of metalcore and never planned on checking these guys out anyways.

rasputin
February 24th 2008


14555 Comments


I stand by that statement, I think Friden is a horrible vocalist. However, Crafter from IKTPQ is worse, if that's any consolation.

DWittisarockstar
February 24th 2008


1501 Comments


KSE is extremely repetitive. I saw them live and, while the crowd was amazing, I couldn't tell any of the songs apart.

I liked this band, but i haven't heard them in 2 years. I don't know how I feel about them now.



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