MiniatureHorse: Watching The Dark Knight Rises

MiniatureHorse 01.05.13	I mean, it's good but I just can't dig it as much as the first one. It's not because the Joker isn't there because honestly, I dug Jack Nicholson way more than Heath Leger, but I just can't get into Vein's persona. It's difficult for to explain this. Fuck it. Opinions?
DamnVanne 01.05.13	Your punishment must be more severe
MiniatureHorse 01.05.13	Oh noooo
InfamousGrouse 01.05.13	Yes. The fire rises.
ApplicationToHeaven 01.05.13	it sucks
Trebor. 01.05.13	"it's good but I just can't dig it as much as the first one" Do you mean not as good as Batman Begins cuz Dark Knight is the second one
anarchistfish 01.05.13	It's worse than both either way. Bane is an awful character and it all feels so contrived with the Robin character and the supposed plot twist
Trebor. 01.05.13	Ur gonna spoil it for him even though it was so fucking obvious in all the trailers
anarchistfish 01.05.13	Haven't spoilt anything important
Trebor. 01.05.13	You spoiled that JGL is the new batman that takes over for him at the end and that they named him Robin because they think the audience is retarded and wouldn't get it if his name wasn't robin
anarchistfish 01.05.13	see what I mean contrived as fuck
GnFnRs87 01.05.13	Not a bad movie by all means, it's very enjoyable But it was nowhere near the Dark Knight and the ending was terrible although the Robin bit was kinda cool
RiffOClock 01.05.13	tdkr blows everyone who thinks different is delusional
Hyperion1001 01.05.13	"because they think the audience is retarded" i mean we are talking about nolan fans here i think they're pretty safe in their assumptions
climactic 01.05.13	story/characters/character dev goes to tdk by a long shot action/visual effects and direction goes to tdkr depends on preference i guess
Trebor. 01.05.13	Why did they make his name Robin, like I still can't get my head around how stupid that is
anarchistfish 01.05.13	are people even called robin these days
RiffOClock 01.05.13	justice league movies gona blow dick lol nolan fucked them up hard with the tdkr ending
climactic 01.05.13	"Why did they make his name Robin, like I still can't get my head around how stupid that is" didnt they not reveal his name till the last scene
anarchistfish 01.05.13	inglourious basterds is on c4 there's a good film
Trebor. 01.05.13	"probably because nolan didn't trust people to be smart enough to know who he was trebor." But he's not THE Robin, like it doesn't even make sense
anarchistfish 01.05.13	Love me Mélanie Laurent
Trebor. 01.05.13	""Why did they make his name Robin, like I still can't get my head around how stupid that is" didnt they not reveal his name till the last scene" Yeah it was supposed to be a twist or whatever, but he's just taking over for Batman so why does his name have to be Robin? Obviously he's not going to make his superhero alias name his actual fucking name
Deviant. 01.05.13	"Why did they make his name Robin, like I still can't get my head around how stupid that is" It's simply a nod to the character, he's not THE Robin and Nolan is clearly not going to do anything with the character either. In fact the only thing he accomplished with that final scene of JGL inheriting the batcave was prove that Batman was bigger than one man, it could belong to anyone
Trebor. 01.05.13	Yeah I get all that, I got all that without his name having to be Robin which is stupid
anarchistfish 01.05.13	tbh that's one of the smallest problems with the film
Trebor. 01.05.13	I always thought that Gordon realized Bruce was Batman when he crashed his Lambo on purpose in the Dark Knight, but apparently not cuz Batman all but tells him point blank at the end of TDKR and he's still like Bruce Wayne huh???????
RiffOClock 01.05.13	so u came back to die with ur city no, i came back to stop u had to facepalm hard
RiffOClock 01.05.13	"I always thought that Gordon realized Bruce was Batman when he crashed his Lambo on purpose in the Dark Knight" umm bruce was all like "im a billionaire i dont even" after the crash so no
Trebor. 01.05.13	For a detective he's not a very good detective
RiffOClock 01.05.13	yea well its nolan were talking about so its either suspension of disbelief or gtfo
Trebor. 01.05.13	"yea well its nolan were talking about so its either suspension of disbelief or gtfo" This is dumb, people are only willing to suspend their disbelief if they're engaged in the movie, it's expected for someone to notice shit if they aren't engaged, that's the difference between good and bad filmmaking
RiffOClock 01.05.13	i was engaged in parts so back off
Trebor. 01.05.13	I know, so was I, my point is that not everyone was nor should you assume everyone was
Hyperion1001 01.05.13	nolan sucks sorry
RiffOClock 01.05.13	http://i.imgur.com/IGuqN.jpg
RiffOClock 01.05.13	http://i.imgur.com/g9VaX.jpg
RiffOClock 01.05.13	http://i.imgur.com/u1DNE.jpg http://i.imgur.com/jRZWM.jpg http://i.imgur.com/1XOvL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FbiXG.jpg
Hyperion1001 01.05.13	its a comic book movie its going to have retarded logic no matter what
RiffOClock 01.05.13	no... REALLY?!
Trebor. 01.05.13	I bet every chiropractor walked out
RiffOClock 01.05.13	why do u wanna kill me i dont wanna kill u. u complete me why didnt u just kill me ur punishment must be more severe dont kill him. i want him to feel the heat batman is invincible!!11!
MiniatureHorse 01.07.13	Mehh. Batman begins is way better, Trebor. But I was reffering to The Dark Knight. Oops
Crymsonblaze 01.07.13	It sucks really badly
Propose 01.07.13	sucks compared to first though agreed
Crymsonblaze 01.07.13	most of the performances are alright, i guess, though i've always hated christian bale
ViralOblivion 01.07.13	"It sucks really badly" Yet you like Spider-Man 3 crysmon watch that video http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/mjtv/ss/37453-shameful-sequels-spiderman-3
BallsToTheWall 01.07.13	Truthfully, this is Tom Hardy's wost villain performance.
DamnVanne 01.07.13	'its a comic book movie its going to have retarded logic no matter what' this
Ignimbrite 01.07.13	TDK>TDKR>BB
BallsToTheWall 01.08.13	Truthfully, this is Tom Hardy's wost villain performance" but he's the only one who made the movie enjoyable lol. Its just a tribute to his ability.
tempest-- 01.08.13	I wanna know why they called him Robin anyway The real Robin's name is Dick Grayson… not Robin
Crymsonblaze 01.08.13	"Yet you like Spider-Man 3 crysmon watch that video http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/mjtv/ss/37453-shameful-sequels-spiderman-3" Eh I don't need to watch it. I'm aware most people hate SM3.
MiniatureHorse 01.12.13	Spider Man 3 was a great movie. Hahaha, riight.
Crymsonblaze 01.12.13	"Hahaha, riight." Keep enjoying being wrong.
demigod! 01.12.13	Spider man 3 was such a mess
Crymsonblaze 01.12.13	A spectacular, awesome mess, agreed ;-)
MiniatureHorse 01.12.13	Dude, SM3 was shit. Enough fucking said.
MiniatureHorse 01.12.13	Hahahahaha
toxin. 01.12.13	Batman Begins sucks. What the fuck are you talking about? What part of "vaporizing the entire city's water supply = vaporizing people who are made of 70% water" did Scarecrow did not understand? Also Scarecrow, [is he] worst villain ever? "I bet every chiropractor walked out" You say that as if chiropractors aren't full of shit to start with. My parents' chiropractor wants to treat my CTS by straightening my posture, what the fuck. Like okay, that's great but really how about something for my wrists and my forearm???
MiniatureHorse 01.12.13	Your grammar is appalling. Therefore, I refuse to read what you just wrote.
toxin. 01.12.13	Happy??????????
MiniatureHorse 01.12.13	Muy feliz.
demigod! 01.12.13	I'll never get over how they portrayed Venom in Spiderman 3
Gwyn. 01.12.13	it was alright but kinda forced and disjointed at times
demigod! 01.12.13	it wasn't bad but had a lot of fuck-ups incredibly disjointed, the acting was good for hte most part and the direction and cinematography was great (Nolan's still got it) but the script had sooo many issues
Crymsonblaze 01.13.13	"Dude, SM3 was shit. Enough fucking said." Incorrect.
ViralOblivion 01.14.13	There is just fundamental story telling problems with SM3
BallsToTheWall 01.14.13	"I'M VENOM AND I'LL PEEL BACK MY FACE ALL THE TIME SO YOU DON'T FORGET I'M ERIC FOREMAN. I'LL ONLY BE IN 20 MINUTES OF THE MOVIE so fucking true
MikeC26 01.14.13	i thought it ruled hard
demigod! 01.14.13	spider man? no it was a mess Batman wasn't as bad as everyone says though
ViralOblivion 01.14.13	It's not a bad movie but for its hype and the problems in it towards the end my biggest problem was banes death, like idk I expected an epic outing for bane it seemed like they hit a brick wall and didn't know how to write a final batman and bane fight. But Spider-Man 3 is worse both X 3 and Spider-Man 3 are just so so so bad
demigod! 01.14.13	yeah the movie definitely got worse as it got on, and Bane in general was just... not...Bane.... as i've said, all the problems i have with this movie are from the script (other than Bane being what he is which is just a god knows why thing)
ViralOblivion 01.14.13	But there's cons and pros with it like in dark knight it seemed like Heath overshadowed everyone like Christian Bale seemed really bored in it like he just didn't care, and Maggie Gyllenhaal was just bad, Nolan had a problem pre inception( cause I liked Ellen page and Marion cotillard in that movie) with casting women and I liked Anne Hathaway and Gary Oldman is always good, even tho he seemed kinda bored at some points in the third one.
Crymsonblaze 01.14.13	"how can you take the movie seriously when he goes all emo and that fucking dance scene. dear god." Few Sam Raimi movies are meant to be taken seriously. "But Spider-Man 3 is worse both X 3 and Spider-Man 3 are just so so so bad " Nope nope nope
Crymsonblaze 01.14.13	But yeah TDKR was awful
demigod! 01.14.13	" Few Sam Raimi movies are meant to be taken seriously." you have a point there, but the movie still has too many problems to me to enjoy it unironically. as a comic book fan, it bugged the shit out of me.
Crymsonblaze 01.14.13	"you have a point there, but the movie still has too many problems to me to enjoy it unironically. as a comic book fan, it bugged the shit out of me." I understand. I couldn't care less about comic books though. More of just a Raimi fan
Polyethylene 01.14.13	"TDK>TDKR>BB" This. I've seen TDKR three times and loved it each time, the "flaws" are minuscule compared to the stuff I loved in it (villain, themes, story, action)
Polyethylene 01.14.13	I really didn't think so, the closest one to "gaping" was probably Bruce making it back to Gotham, but because of how much scenes of him hitching on a boat or something would've ruined the flow of the movie and the impact of his return, I let Nolan away with it. Biggest complaint really is the rather weak villain deaths
Polyethylene 01.14.13	The slow, meditative beginning that swells to an all-out climax? Identical to Batman Begins' flow, TDK is probably the strongest of the three but its constant climaxing is sort of exhausting
ViralOblivion 01.14.13	His house is on the edge of a cliff I believe? So it's not so unbelievable that he got into Gotham
Polyethylene 01.14.13	Bruce was Ras al Ghul's best student ever, outwitting/slipping past lesser members of the LoS isn't really unbelievable at all
ViralOblivion 01.14.13	He traveled the world for 5+ years he probably knows people everywhere
ViralOblivion 01.14.13	So a logical explanation is an excuse?
Polyethylene 01.14.13	I found it had the best and most explosive climax of the trilogy, the cops vs. League plus Batman vs. Bane plus chasing Talia plus the detonation... was Bane meant to bleed to death over the course of fifteen minutes or something?
Polyethylene 01.14.13	But there is a logical explanation for every "inconsistency", I'd prefer if I didn't have to fill in the gaps myself, but understand why they were left as gaps. This movie had so much to tell and juggle, if they slowly and blatantly explained every little thing that happened it would've been an impenetrable 5 hour mess.
ViralOblivion 01.14.13	What about the knife wound being in nuclear infested water? Lol
ViralOblivion 01.14.13	But there is logical sense to some of the "problems" in it using a Nolan fanboy excuse is just an excuse
ViralOblivion 01.14.13	Because then it would be close to about 3 and a half hours not every little detail has to be in it or do just hate to actually think for yourself? I bet you hate Lost
ViralOblivion 01.14.13	They explained everything the show was never planned, you can't plan a show, shows evolve things happen on shows that change a show. Example in Homeland they were supposed to blow the main character but because of how good Damian Lewis and Claire Danes are together they decided to keep him, same with BB Vince gilligian decided to kill Jesse in season 1 but Aaron Paul was so awesome they kept him it happens ALL the time
Polyethylene 01.14.13	No I'm able to criticise Nolan when I feel he deserves it, there are problems in all of his films that I'm vocal about, but in this particular movie the good outweighed the bad by a mile. A lot of cops did get mowed down. Bane vs. Batman had awesome fights both times. There were a couple average lines and a lot of expositional dialogue, agreed. Bane died in a flash and Talia's death felt forced, I agree with you there. I don't have any problems with the end, he obviously ejected when he shot that roof on the waterfront. As for being seen out in public, I imagine he'd be lying pretty low for the rest of his life, and most likely used the clean slate along with Selina. Bruce was supposedly killed in the "down with the elite" riots, and the theme throughout the whole series is that it doesn't matter who Batman really is, he can be anybody. With the erection of that Batman statue, Gotham realised that he's shouldn't be remembered as a man in a cape but as a symbol, making his true identity irrelevant.
Polyethylene 01.14.13	This movie left more up to interpretation (or more gaps you had to fill yourself) than other Nolan movies and that is a negative, but in the context of the movie those gaps were a good idea.
KenboSlice 01.14.13	Crappy movie. When they said Joseph Gordon Levitt's characters real name was "Robin" I wanted to stand up in the theater and yell "That's bullshit!" Also the movie would've been better if Bane was like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkMPZ7WeDck
ViralOblivion 01.14.13	I loved the first fight, second fight was cool for a few seconds especially when bane was punching so goddamn fast that was sweet plus Tom Hardys acting with his eyes were so good
Polyethylene 01.14.13	Although these movies aren't really action-centric, I did dig the fights in this movie a lot (particularly with Bane in the sewer)
ViralOblivion 01.14.13	Nolan has always had problems with his batman fights tho
Polyethylene 01.14.13	Bane took it over once he came back ("this is Bane's prison now"), therefore he can command the people in it to do what he wants... he's paying them to keep Bruce alive. The protruding part of his spine got snapped back into place and took five months to heal, would you call that magic?
Polyethylene 01.14.13	There was never a climactic fight with Scarecrow, Ra's, Two-Face or the Joker, the fight with Bane was by far the most intense.
Killerhit 01.14.13	You guys understand this is becoming petty right
ViralOblivion 01.14.13	How is arguing about music and movies any different?
ViralOblivion 01.14.13	Besides achieving nothing
Polyethylene 01.14.13	He kept Batman, the citizens of Gotham and the police alive for a reason he explains very clearly in the movie. You might want to watch it again in order to know what you're talking about.
Polyethylene 01.14.13	Well I'm sorry you didn't enjoy this film.
Deviant. 01.14.13	"and he got out of the middle east how?" Lol, are you still complaining about this? It's not even a flaw in the storyline, just because you aren't shown it
Hyperion1001 01.14.13	batman isnt even a real bat
WeepingBanana 01.14.13	my main problem with the movie is that the two villains died in .03923923 nanoseconds and then the movie ended up literally being this: http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/22625_o.gif
Hyperion1001 01.14.13	yeah batman and robin is my fav batman welcome to the ice age cunts
WeepingBanana 01.14.13	"What killed the dinosaurs? The Ice Age!"
Polyethylene 01.14.13	"Lol, are you still complaining about this? It's not even a flaw in the storyline, just because you aren't shown it" I can understand why people would rather see it than have to make the mental jump themselves, but it isn't a real flaw no
KenboSlice 01.14.13	It seems you do not appreciate my dietary expertise.
Crymsonblaze 01.14.13	We should go get Gordon... SOMEONE GET THIS FUCKING HOTHEAD OUT OF MY EMERGENCY ROOM DAMN IT!!!!! Yeah the dialogue was shit. The pacing was shit. The editing was megashit. The movie is shit.