Winrar
10.19.12 | List is gay, you clearly don't understand the complexity and the ingenious mechanics of this game and BTBAM! |
Trebor.
10.19.12 | sweet |
dammets
10.19.12 | lol at 6 |
Hyperion1001
10.19.12 | its not a bad version of morrowind, its just not good in general |
Trebor.
10.19.12 | I don't know why Morrowind fans are so fervent about Skyrim sucking
Everyone else seems to love it and it got considerably better reviews from critics
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Hyperion1001
10.19.12 | everyone loving it =/= its good trebor i am disappointed
the elder scrolls games have been kind of ugh since oblivion |
Winrar
10.19.12 | "lets all get butthurt about video games"
well, it's a nice change of pace from the usual butthurt from music. |
Youtellme
10.19.12 | "lets all get butthurt about video games"
Well we already get butthurt over music, so we might as well |
Satellite
10.19.12 | dumb list is dumb. both games are great. |
cagedescending
10.19.12 | list is truth
lotta mad in here |
Vakarian12
10.19.12 | http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Skyrim-DLC-Dragonborn-Solstheim-elder-scrolls,18496.html I hope this is true. I loved the hell out of Solstheim |
Satellite
10.19.12 | yeah a new big region would be cool |
Ovrot
10.19.12 | this list is pretty true
morrowind is better in nearly every gameplay aspect
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Vakarian12
10.19.12 | except combat and magic. both were pitiful in Morrowind |
cagedescending
10.19.12 | yeah that's like the one thing they've actually improved
but it's still outclassed in that regard by Dark Messiah from like seven years ago |
Ovrot
10.19.12 | Yeah
Dark Messiah set the standard for first-person combat and no one has come close yet |
cagedescending
10.19.12 | infuckingdeeeeeeeed
well except Chronicles of Riddick, that got close. but it didn't have the Boot of Doom |
Ovrot
10.19.12 | look how gay this guy is!
he likes vaginas! |
cagedescending
10.19.12 | hahahahaha omg what a homosex |
lucasjcockcroft
10.19.12 | I liked Skyrim, Oblivion and Morrowind
say yayyy for meeee |
cagedescending
10.19.12 | communist |
lucasjcockcroft
10.19.12 | god hates flags |
cagedescending
10.19.12 | haha headcrabs like from halo i get it |
lucasjcockcroft
10.19.12 | stop putting your head near dirty vagina's |
bach
10.19.12 | "I don't know why Morrowind fans are so fervent about Skyrim sucking
Everyone else seems to love it and it got considerably better reviews from critics."
Because they're uptight and cynical about the fact that people are jumping on the the Elder scrolls wagon, 10 or so years down the line after it started. And they're assholes. |
cagedescending
10.19.12 | reviewers are paid off anyway |
bach
10.19.12 | "reviewers are paid off anyway"
AKA: IGN |
cagedescending
10.19.12 | they all are. unless they agreed with what i say then they're legit |
Trebor.
10.19.12 | "reviewers are paid off anyway"
I believe it, Famitsu has been giving crazy good reviews to fucking everything lately, they've given out like 10 40/40s in the last few years after they only had like 10 all time
Plus they gave RE6 a 39/40!!! PSM gave Resident Evil 6 a 9/10 too fucking lol |
NOTINTHEFACE
10.19.12 | "Because they're uptight and cynical about the fact that people are jumping on the the Elder scrolls wagon, 10 or so years down the line after it started. And they're assholes."
Pretty much. What I find so hilarious about 14 year old elitists like the OP is that they pretend like Morrowind didn't have all the same problems, plus a whole lot more. I played about 200 hours of Morrowind. And honestly, other than the fact that it was an open world game the likes of which had never been done before, it absolutely sucked. The gameplay was abhorrently boring. The skill system sucked (you want to talk broken mechanics/skills. Try conjuration+soul gems and the fact that level 1 players could earn hundreds of thousands of gold in a few hours), the story was boring as fuck, and it carred Bethesda's typical bugginess multiplied tenfold. I couldn't count how many times I couldn't finish quests in Morrowind because the quest giver mysteriously disappeared. You talk about the Skyrim world like it's so bland, yet Vvardenfell was basically a giant ashtray with green parts on the edges.
Some of your criticisms are valied. Master difficulty is pretty gay. Difficulty is why I got bored with Fallout 3 40 hours in, and why most ARPG's bore me these days. But some of your other points show that either you hardly put any time into Skyrim or you were so turned off that it wasn't Morrowind and that everyone and his dog was playing it that you didn't take the time to appreciate it. There's a difference between asking for quality from your games and being an asshole about something other people like because it makes you feel sophisticated. |
NOTINTHEFACE
10.19.12 | *valid goddammit |
klap
10.19.12 | gameplay was not boring. leveling in morrowind wasn't for pussies. obviously it was buggy so was every bethesda game. i don't know conjuration + soul gem bugs because i wasn't going online and finding bugs so i could get unlimited gold like a bitch. story was far deeper in my opinion, more quests, much more interesting culture/characters. only thing i hated about morrowind was lack of fast travel but in retrospect that got me more involved than i have been in oblivion/skyrim. not saying i don't like those two games (i do), but i prefer morrowind as a whole - if they remade morrowind with a new engine id be done |
theacademy
10.19.12 | "i don't know conjuration + soul gem bugs because i wasn't going online and finding bugs so i could get unlimited gold like a bitch."
i dont know what this means but for some reason it makes me respect you even more. shine on, my friend. |
klap
10.19.12 | for the record i enjoyed both oblivion and skyrim and have played both many hours |
paxman
10.19.12 | " Pretty much. What I find so hilarious about 14 year old elitists like the OP is that they pretend like Morrowind didn't have all the same problems, plus a whole lot more. I played about 200 hours of Morrowind. And honestly, other than the fact that it was an open world game the likes of which had never been done before, it absolutely sucked. The gameplay was abhorrently boring. The skill system sucked (you want to talk broken mechanics/skills. Try conjuration+soul gems and the fact that level 1 players could earn hundreds of thousands of gold in a few hours), the story was boring as fuck, and it carred Bethesda's typical bugginess multiplied tenfold. I couldn't count how many times I couldn't finish quests in Morrowind because the quest giver mysteriously disappeared. You talk about the Skyrim world like it's so bland, yet Vvardenfell was basically a giant ashtray with green parts on the edges.
Some of your criticisms are valied. Master difficulty is pretty gay. Difficulty is why I got bored with Fallout 3 40 hours in, and why most ARPG's bore me these days. But some of your other points show that either you hardly put any time into Skyrim or you were so turned off that it wasn't Morrowind and that everyone and his dog was playing it that you didn't take the time to appreciate it. There's a difference between asking for quality from your games and being an asshole about something other people like because it makes you feel sophisticated."
Agreed. |
toxin.
10.19.12 | Skyrim is a game that was really interesting at first, but after a lot of hours invested, the repetitive gameplay and weak questlines sort of just killed it for me. |
Dev518
10.19.12 | "...wasting half an hour on these shitty dungeons" That's actually sums up how I feel about this game. It just seems lazy to have nearly 90% of the game take place in dungeons when there is this giant open world that is basically only used to travel from dungeon to dungeon. I would have rather had a smaller game with more variety. |
NOTINTHEFACE
10.19.12 | Morrowind's story was pretty much the exact same as Skyrim's. Savior comes to world being threatened by ancient evil, and must become prophesied figure before killing final boss. And you really didn't have to look online to figure any of this out. The game was full of silly exploits and broken skills.
One thing I loved about MOrrowind that Bethesda stopped doing afterwards was the flat difficulty of the world. The possibility of running into a dungeon filled with enemies that were like 10 levels above me was awesome. |
klap
10.19.12 | ^^^ honestly that second paragraph is my biggest beef with oblivion/skyrim. and that there are far less quests |
paxman
10.19.12 | Guys you can build houses in skyrim now it's like the sims medieval |
NOTINTHEFACE
10.19.12 | There's a guy who did a massive overhaul mod for Oblivion that altered the world to make it level difficulty/treasure, as well as a bunch of other features. I really can't wait for the Skyrim equivalent.
I really don't know about fewer quests, though. I put 200 hours into one character and then restarted in Japanese to practice the language with a new character, and I'm finding new quests all the time. And I'm not talking about the lame random events that recycle every so often. |
bungy
10.19.12 | tldr
morrowind is better cause I killed a giant floating jellyfish with a fork |
NOTINTHEFACE
10.19.12 | bungy, that is the most convincing argument I've ever heard for Morrowind. Well put. |
bungy
10.19.12 | Yeah I'm glad you can build houses now so I have something to spend all my fucking gold on
And fulfill my rpg dream of having one chicken |
Hyperion1001
10.19.12 | Oblivion in a nutshell:
FUCK WHY DOES THIS DUNGEON LOOK FAMILIAR
Skyrim in a nutshell:
FUCK MORE DRAUGR |
bungy
10.19.12 | not the first time we touched our cocks |
Ovrot
10.19.12 | The hearthfire thing is gay you get like 1 new house per area and there is not much you can do with it.
I miss in morrowind you could live in any house, just kill whoever lives there. |
bungy
10.19.12 | you can get a fucking chicken. And a fucking stable. You know what you can do with a stable? stand inside of it |
klap
10.19.12 | i didnt really see too much of a difference between oblivion and skyrim except skyrim had a better world imo |
bungy
10.19.12 | I'm fucking sick of towns with three buildings. |
klap
10.19.12 | i mean i played a ton of both i dk |
bungy
10.19.12 | The joy though is real potato |
bungy
10.19.12 | I'm way better at Skyrim than real life except you can't get laid in Skyrim so in that aspect it's about the same
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BloodSweatandBeers
10.19.12 | gud list game sucks shit |
bach
10.19.12 | Since when has killing dragons NOT sounded like fun? Did i not get the memo or something? |
Wafflez
10.19.12 | Skyrim sucks as an Rpg. Honestly you could easily call Skyrim a landmark achievement in gaming for a number of reasons. But the game itself its dull, uninteresting and borked. The characters are generic. They all act like generic knight riding horse#2 from the lord of the rings movies. Stats are broken and every quest is just a fetch quest for a different item. |
bach
10.19.12 | "Skyrim sucks as an Rpg. Honestly you could easily call Skyrim a landmark achievement in gaming for a number of reasons. But the game itself its dull, uninteresting and borked. The characters are generic. They all act like generic knight riding horse#2 from the lord of the rings movies. Stats are broken and every quest is just a fetch quest for a different item."
That's an incredibly bold statement you made there.
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Winrar
10.19.12 | Some people hate Skyrim because of the popularity it's getting and that their beloved Morrowind received no mainstream attention.
I just hate Skyrim because it's a sack of shit. |
klap
10.19.12 | i dk ayleid ruins were equally as boring to me. oblivion's world was generic fantasy land |
Winrar
10.19.12 | Also, Morrowind's flaws didn't actually break the gameplay at all though. There were exploits that allowed you to beat the game in 20 minutes, but nobody really felt the need to do it... The environment is also subjective and im not going to bother about that (except Skyrim's water looks worse than a bleeding asshole)
However, Skyrim's exploits were almost unavoidable. Unless you want to avoid some skill trees alltogether, forget NOT exploiting enchanting, stealth, destruction ect. |
Winrar
10.19.12 | Anyway, i personally think Morrowind is a solid 8/10, it suffered from horrible early game experiences (miss! miss! miss!) but it still had everything that made an RPG enjoyable: strategy and planning. How should i go about clearing this dungeon?
Whereas TES V = LETS FUCKING LEFT CLICK TILL I BEAT THE GAME.
I'm done with this rant, let's talk about shit that matters, like the massive amount of vagina we're getting from asserting our video game dominance. |
bungy
10.19.12 | finally boning on Skyrim this took 167 hours |
Wafflez
10.19.12 | @bach96 Throughout the entire game there were at best 10-12 interesting quests. Dark brother and Thieves Guild arcs were decent but that's about it. Most quests just felt forced and the only motivation seemed like "A handsome reward" as most of the Npcs phrased it. My biggest complaint is against the main quest arc which was as boring and anti climatic as they come. I felt like a idiotic child listening to tales of yore and fetching things for them. Skyrim tries to hide the lack of diversity with vastness.To give them some credit some of the quests were fun though like the one for Shoegorath and the one where you get drunk and go places. I don't think I really need to mention how shit the difficulty system and how broken Enchanting and smithing are. The combat was literally just click click click click pause eat 10 cheese wheels and click some more and the only thing to spice it up is 5 cycling kill animations. Almost every character lacked any sort of personal touch what so ever. They all said what you'd expect a generic medival king/squire/bandit/warrior/Villager to say. Pretty much 4-5 exceptions to this at best. The companions were all fucking awful. Bethesda didn't even bother to put some sort of backstory behind any of them. I might be wrong but Cicero is possibly the only companion that you get to know more about in the entire game. I know a lot of people might disagree with me but this is why I think skyrim was a bad game. Bethesda seems to be too busy looking at the big picture to pay any attention to details. |
snoopdogg6969
10.19.12 | yeah skyrim is too easy and the water graphics suck. i also really hate how it loads bushes that are like 20 feet in the distance... completely kills any feeling of actually bein in the game. that bein said its still fun and im about to play it now |
HitlerIsTheBest
10.19.12 | fuck you, fighting dragons is awesome. everything else is true though. |
KILL
10.19.12 | morrowind is better obv but skyrim is gd and better than oblivion |
KILL
10.19.12 | lol andcas hasnt played morrowind, everyone point and laugh |
HitlerIsTheBest
10.19.12 | @andcas i doubt thats why. on the surface the game does seem really fucking awesome and i thought it was at first, but after you play it for awhile you notice how flawed it is. |
Winrar
10.19.12 | Yeah, but some people like proggy havent taken off the rose coloured glasses yet. |
Winrar
10.19.12 | you're not missing out on anything. |
Keyblade
10.19.12 | "Some people need to learn that some people enjoy games and others don't."
sort of an ironic comment. replace games with music and you have this site in a nutshell. |
Pennywise_M
10.19.12 | Haha loved the list's description. Morrowind kicks some serious ass, oblivion is cool too. |