TheNotrap
06.06.20 | I don't think there are many MMA freaks around here, but I'm doing this anyway. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | It's not an amazing card but I'm looking forward to seeing the main event, Cody, Cory Sandhagen and Sean O'Malley.
Amanda is obviously favorite, but I'm in Felicia's corner. If she doesn't beat Amanda, I don't know who will.
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Deez
06.06.20 | No ones beating Nunes unless she takes her eye of the ball in training or fights Valentina again who beat her last time in my eyes.
Great to See O Malley back, Eddie is a solid gatekeeper but long in the tooth MMA wise. I would love to see Cody get smoked again. Very tough fight. H needs a win badly.
Hooper too is a great watch rn |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Yeah, it's gonna be hard for someone to beat Amanda, but I hope Felicia surprises us all. I enjoyed her performance against Cyborg.
Agreed, Valentina won the second fight. Total robbery, just like Jones' win against Reys.
I'm in Cody's corner because I loved the way he crushed Dominick Cruz. |
Deez
06.06.20 | Cant stand him. Absolute jock. That line about him never have to worry about pussy in his life as a comeback to cruz summed him up. Alpha male are just bad dickheads across the board bar Faber. Has no fight IQ. If that doesnt impove hes fucked |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Hahah I can see you're not an Alpha squad fan. I'm indifferent, but one thing I know, I prefer any alpha boy over despicable Cruz.
What did you think of Gaethje's devastating win? He completely butchered Tony. He's my favorite fighter at the moment.
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Deez
06.06.20 | I watched Cruz from the best in the world to a life threatening injury and come back and win the title in the UFC. Was incredible. I dont like him as a person but hes just a wind up merchant. Cody is a dumb jock which is cool cos hes fighting not a scientist.
Honestly could see it coming a mile off. Tonys been beating everyone for so long. Ive had major gambling problems but my friend asked for a tip and I told him go big on Justin. 2 weight cuts for Tony was always gonna gas him if he didnt get it done early and I couldnt only see him finishing him by cuts. Its so hard to go on that long of a streak against the top top guys and Styles make fights of course. I hope Tony gets another shot at him with a normal camp or at least get the Loser of Khabib/Gaethje |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | I was also one of the few who thought Gaethje was the favorite. Nobody has a strike like him in the division and I also think he'll beat Khabib. Justin just has to stay way from the cage and keep the fight off the ground.
Tony's two weight cuts were insane, but I think he'd always lose the fight.
Conor will be the one who will face Gaethje vs. Khabib winner.
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Josh D.
06.06.20 | I hope Cody loses and Amanda wins. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Well Amanda is the absolute favorite. |
AffableMartyr
06.06.20 | Hoping Cody Loses, O'Malley wins and Nunes Dominates |
Deez
06.06.20 | Conor needs to fight again this year and its a harder sell if he loses it.
I think he beats Gaethje actually. Styles make fights [2] Conors striking is much cleaner than Gaethje. Hes been stopped by less even if hes smarter now inside his chin is the same. Even Ferg put him down.. Although I would hope Gaethje can get through them shots and grind him out. As much as I hate Conor its stupid to try and slug it out with him. Ferg and JG were the only threat to Khabib but he walks through them both for me. Everyones plan is to 'keep it off the ground' |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | O'Malley could barely speak at one of his interviews, dude might need to move up soon |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | "I think he beats Gaethje actually. Styles make fights [2] Conors striking is much cleaner than Gaethje."
It would be a massive fight and yes, Conor has a more technical strike and that left hand does a lot of damage. But Gaethje is stronger, he's got a more violent leg game and a great coach.
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TheNotrap
06.06.20 | If O'Malley wins, he'll get his title shot. |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | I think Gaethje wins, he looked unbelievable against Tony. Trevor Wittman really helped him evolve into a more patient, intelligent fighter and he was already tough as nails and well rounded. And we all know Gaethje has 3 times the stamina. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Spot on |
MO
06.06.20 | Gaethje would obliterate Conor. The right to make is gaethje khabib now. Unfortunately we may never see Tony khabib...sigh |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | How many times was it postponed? Four, five times? The most cursed fight of all time. |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | Five. If Tonyâs performance against Gaethje isnât an anomaly, I guess the hope is over. Heâs 38 and got fucked up. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Yeah, he was butchered. The last two rounds were a massacre. I believe Tony may have been left with permanent injuries. |
Donchivo
06.06.20 | This list desperately needs Bathory - Octagon!! |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | The reason I thought Gaethje had a good shot is heâs powerful and a good striker, and look at any Tony win, he gets hit. Heâs just got a surreal chin and went to another level against Gaethje, incredible. He mightâve been better off getting Ko/Tko.
I also think, like with everyone he faces, Khabib would do what he always does and neutralized him, wrapped his legs, and beat him up on the ground for 4 rounds. |
Deez
06.06.20 | 2 weight cuts in one camp period. Ridiculous. Theres nothing worse than that delayed,sustained,beating that ends in the body just turning away. Horrible. Kinda like the way Mcdonald fell in the last Lawler fight. Never gets easy to see that.
'Gaethje would obliterate Conor.'
If dustin and Alvarez can stop Gaethje so can Conor. I would prefer JG puts him in a coma. But to think hell just walk through him I dont see it at all unless he wrestles and kicks and doesnt get caught in a fire fight. He trades with Conor early I dont think it ends well. His fight IQ may be much better but hes been stopped by Lesser punchers. Even If I dont but into Conors 'mega power' |
Deez
06.06.20 | I dont think it happens anyway. Conor/Diaz next and then Probably Conor khabib.
Think well see Ferg 2 for Justin before Conor but see how the chips fall. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | "If dustin and Alvarez can stop Gaethje so can Conor"
Justin is now a better, smarter fighter. |
Deez
06.06.20 | No doubt hes a better fighter. But lets not act like he doesnt get hit. Justin 2.0 still got dropped by Ferg early too. And Ferg doesnt punch like that little prick.
Being a smarter fighter doesnt change your chin and if Conor finds your chin youre in trouble if those guys can finish you. Hes much cleaner,faster and tighter striking wise. He has to utilise his kicks and wrestling and use that smarted head hes shown. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Conor is among the best who have ever done it, without a doubt. I'm not underestimating him in any way. I just think Justin would have a strong chance of winning the fight. |
Deez
06.06.20 | Of course he would. It would be a 50/50 pick em given Conors inactivity Id probably lean towards JG too. |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | JG put on a clinic against one of the most unorthodox and creative strikers to ever enter the Octagon, so I feel like heâd stay out of the pocket and use kicks, but would we see him finally wrestle? Huge advantage there against Conor. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | If Conor doesn't want to wait for the Gaethje vs.Khabib winner, he should dive into the Nate trilogy. He needs to fight ASAP
"but would we see him finally wrestle? Huge advantage there against Conor"
Agreed, but if he's never used his wresting in the last few years, I don't think he'll start now. |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | Tbh while Iâd love to see it, I feel like the desire for me isnât as big for the trilogy as it was for Conor Nate 2. I kinda just want to move on. Trilogies and double champ stuff has gotten a bit stale for me. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | I hear you, but if it's not Nate, who would it be? Masvidal? |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | Dana seems incredibly disinterested in that fight, but itâd be huge. Masvidal-Usman needs to happen asap though. Someone is waiting one way or another, covid fucked everything up. I feel like obvious thing is JG-Khabib, Conor vs. another contender for next title shot. Iâd prefer someone he hasnât fought yet, so Tony, but a Poirier rematch would be interesting. Let the chips fall. |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | I guess Iâve succumbed to money fights, double champ fights, and weight class changes becoming old for me, and joined the chorus of getting impatient when titles sit idle for too long. Enough of champs fighting once or twice a year, besides Adesanya. |
Deez
06.06.20 | Now Masvidal WOULD obliterate him. Hes a big WW. Nates the only fight to make at this point.
'Trilogies and double champ stuff has gotten a bit stale for me.'
Been that way for years. I remember the old days when Dana would be selling MMA/UFC on TV and saying how it wasnt like boxing with 20 belts. Look at that shit now. Farce. Conors double champ shit was manufactured as fuck too and BS there had been DChamps before outside the company and better ones since but the who double champ shit is just boring now. Fighters be winning titles and wanting second belts without even defending it once. Precedent was set. |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | I kinda think Masvidal could starch Conor. Heâs big, slick boxing, chin for days. |
Divaman
06.06.20 | Gonna watch the prelims, but not paying for the ppv. |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | I realize Iâm not giving Conor his due itt, but he hasnt been active, the game passes you quick and a lot of these guys just keep getting better |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | Divaman, google buffstream my man |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Dana never wanted that fight, he said Masvidal was too big for Conor. And he's probably right. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | I never paid to watch, I use a live stream. I hope it keeps working today. |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | Havenât paid for a PPV, been watching since 2013. Used to be a lot of good stream aggregators, but they eventually get shut down. Buff is still live though |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Noted. If my usual stream doesn't work I'll try that one |
Deez
06.06.20 | I used to pay my mate 3 pound to bring me pride events the day after on a CD rom hahahha Ive probably 'Paid' for UFC less than 10 times in over 20 years (we dont/didnt have PPV in UK)
Check watchwwe.in been solid for about a year now |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Jesus! Pride?? Cro Cop, Fedor,.. It should have been epic times |
Deez
06.06.20 | The best of times |
Deez
06.06.20 | My first BJJ class when I was travelling in OZ was with James TeHuna who went on to have a few good wins in UFC but also Mark Hunt was training for the Wanderlei fight in pride and the for Cro cop too. Surreal as fk |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Now we have other epic moments to enjoy, like the colossal Izzy vs. Romero fight. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Mark Hunt is a KO beast |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | I ran into Matt Mitrione at a bar downtown once, and asked him about knocking out Fedor, and he was so chill about it, like mate, you knocked out Fedor, get amped when I ask. He was cool though. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Nice
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Josh D.
06.06.20 | he was in town because, in a twist I didn't expect, he's a Dead head and was going to all their Texas dates with his lady. |
FearThyEvil
06.06.20 | I adore UFC so it's cool to see other users on here talking about it. Real dumb move by egg head to have Cody be co-main over Aljo and Sandhagen which he even stated is a title eliminator. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Aljamain Sterling vs. Cory Sandhagen should be a bloody war. I'm in Cory's corner. |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | don't know much abotu Cory, I've probably seen him fight, but it doesn't register. Also didn't know until this week that Aljo is #2 in the rankings. I've always been slightly perplexed by his lean over style, it's so goofy looking. Looking forward to it though, under the circumstances, the UFC has had some good cards since they returned. Dana is a fucking asshole and a sizeable piece of trash, but he puts on a good product and I hate that I like it sometimes. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Check this out Josh: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=emk8tTYHR10
Good leg kicks, good takedowns, decent striking. Tough dude. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | I'm also looking forward to seeing Chase Hooper. |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | damn, those liver shots. My guy must be a big Aldo fan. Also, that step back right hand on Lineker, dodging the counter at 6:35. Beautiful. |
FearThyEvil
06.06.20 | Chase Hooper and Sean O'Malley should put on interesting fights too |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | are we live chatting the event or what? |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Sure, but my link doesn't work...DAMN |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | I'm in finally |
Trundle
06.06.20 | it's like the entire card is made up of facebook/ fight pass prelim fights.
AND it costs 70usd to watch,
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Josh D.
06.06.20 | They're no Bellator, that's for sure! I remember watching a Bellator event, and three consecutive fights featured a guy just dropping to the floor trying to grab the opponent's ankle for a heel hook or leg bar. Excellent promotion picking up the scraps and has beens!
If you're referencing something else, who cares. |
Trundle
06.06.20 | lol did you actually just delete my comment saying the ufc is shit?
we got ourselves a hall monitor here |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | I deleted it, with my mind. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Behave, this is a classy thread. |
Trundle
06.06.20 | o ya it's not liek PRIDE, or Strikeforce, Dream, One FC are/were a thing.
ufc stopped being entertaining in 2012,
not like ancient PRIDE fighters became ufc champs,
or Strikeforce's HW and MW divisions domination of their ufc counterparts
or lawler's return to the ufc and becoming literally most entertaining WW champ ever
.....fucking zuffa zombies smh |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | The UFC stopped being entertaining when all the promotions you listed ended? |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | Half those fighter went to the UFC, a few succeeded, the rest got washed. Not sure what the problem is. There are easy criticisms of the promotion, not sure that's one. |
Trundle
06.06.20 | you do realize you're watching a blood sport right, where the athletes get paid in pocket change?
it's literally a bloodsport but you want a "safe space" to talk about it.
is internet discussion as we know it completely over?
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Josh D.
06.06.20 | pick a topic, are you ok? |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | UFC is easily the best MMA promoter |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | lmao in a promo, Cody just said "I can hit you, I can submit you"...mate, you throw hooks with reckless abandon and finally ran into people who know how to duck. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | I thought the prelims started at 11pm (GMT+1) |
Trundle
06.06.20 | "The UFC stopped being entertaining when all the promotions you listed ended?"
uh ya, the ufc has shittier rules, the 10 point must system, and it's in a cage so for years we have been blessed to watch wall n stall for all this time. with the infusion of the Pride fighters ufc popularity grew as well, now we could see a lot of matchups that hadn't been possible before, same happened when they got the SF guys,
but now we're stuck with a product where every event is exactly the same whether it's a ppv or fight night.
even fighters say it sucks now |
MO
06.06.20 | for such a young sport, the UFC is definitely the face of MMA. I'm not sure how huge other promotions overseas are though besides the Japanese ones |
Trundle
06.06.20 | well that's not really true, it may be the biggest promotion in the West,
but One FC owns the East, and there's a lot more people over there |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | UFC doesn't have rules, they operate under SACs in each state or country the event is in. This dude sucks. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | I didn't know you loved MMA MO, nice. |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | Alright, let's move away from someone that's clearly mad for some reason...
Here's a thought I've had: O'Malley beat a contender easily, and his next fight is Eddie Wineland? I know it's a quick turnaround, I know there's COVID, but this is a backstep. He beats this guy, ok great. The odds are O'Malley -500, Wineland +360. In what way is this gonna bolster anything for O'Malley?
Eddie is a gamer and been around a long time, but I've been confused by this. |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | O'Malley blasts him, we all go "yes, and?". He loses, it looks really bad. idk |
Trundle
06.06.20 | so Josh, what would rather see,
soccer kicks, foot stomps, knees to the head of a downed opponent, yellow cards for stalling, judging a fight in it's entirety
or lay n pray and wall-n-stall, and a judging system that favours it
Big John in conjunction with the UFC made the "unified" rules and judging criteria to satisfy John McCain,
actually it's up to the state to choose what version of the unified rules the state wants to use, this affects things like the utilization of re-play or the fingers touching the ground to avoid getting kneed in the head |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Well that ended quickly |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | No, I don't want to see fighters on all fours get soccer kicked. Are you mad at me? Move on.
"actually it's up to the state to choose what version of the unified rules"
That's what I was referring to. Goodbye. |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | if that body triangle was any deeper, that would've been the submission by itself |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Yeah
Concerning Sean O'Malley, I think his next fight will be against Aljamain Sterling vs. Cory Sandhagen winner. |
Trundle
06.06.20 | "That's what I was referring to. Goodbye."
uhhhhhhhhhhh didn't really sound like it, considering the "unified" rule sets are pretty much exactly the same, except for a cpl differences.
either way, when i say the ufc ruleset sucks you insinuated that they had no control of the rules and it was up to each individual state,
when all that means is what version of the rules that Big John and the ufc made will be utilized that night.
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Josh D.
06.06.20 | dude, I just had a funny idea where someone was on a music website and he gets really mad about some people liking a fight promotion more than others and spent weird amount of time tryuing to argue about it |
Trundle
06.06.20 | "dude, I just had a funny idea where someone was on a music website and he gets really mad about some people liking a fight promotion more than others and spent weird amount of time tryuing to argue about it"
...lol you're the one who started talking to me! you even posted multiple times to reply to just one of my posts.
don't be mad cause i know what i'm talking about and you don't,
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TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Hey Rogan still bald |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | and slightly confused by tech difficulties |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Hahah yeah |
Deez
06.06.20 | Trundle what the fk are going on about? Im the biggest Pride nuthugger going but its gone get over it. ( I Havent like but...) UFC has ruled the roost for a LONG time now for better or worse. I wish there was competition but there isnt yet. Pride had PLENTY of utterly shit fights and utterly shit cans too. Soccer kicks sure but also no elbows! The UFC is saturated to fk now for sure far too many events but MMA has grown A LOT since the mid 2000s and even early 10s. Lots more fighters to be given a chance. (unfortunately just not paid)
Id rather no have 10 pt system in MMA also but to use that to say its not exciting any more? Just not true.
'not like ancient PRIDE fighters became ufc champs'
Who? Shogun?? He was 28
Nog? was an Interim |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | The commercials are blocked |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | I donât know the next fighters |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | One of the best features of that stream site is they stay in the cage during breaks. So youâll hear commentary drop out, but hear corners talk. Especially during covid and no one outside the cage, itâs crazy |
ZombieParty
06.06.20 | i dont think spencer has much of a chance v nunes. spencer is 2-1 in the ufc. strange choice of an opponent if im honest. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | I love Spencer, she's a tough lady |
Trundle
06.06.20 | "Trundle what the fk are going on about? Im the biggest Pride nuthugger going but its gone get over it. UFC has ruled the roost for a LONG time now for better or worse. I wish there was competition but there isnt yet. Pride had PLENTY of utterly shit fights and utterly shit cans too. The UFC is saturated to fk now for sure far too many events but MMA has grown A LOT since the mid 2000s and even early 10s. Lots more fighters to be given a chance. "
lol, see, that's the thing, the sport isn't growing any more and it hasn't been for awhile, there isn't nearly as much interest in it. Viewership in MMA in general is pretty low, no promotion is getting the same number of viewers they used to.
You guys do know that the only reason the ufc is even having events now is because disney said the would only pay the ufc the contracted 750mil if the ufc put on the number of events that was in the contract. pandemic be damned,
and you know when the pandemic hit, they had no money to pay their fighters cause they had to pay their celebrity investors,
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Josh D.
06.06.20 | Idk much about Spencer, but watching her throw, sheâs got straight strikes, while Amanda loops big overhands. I donât give her much of a chance, but Iâm wondering if she can be sharp enough to beat her to a couple punches. Amanda has never been in trouble either, so we have nothing to base that potential off of. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Nasty fight |
Trundle
06.06.20 | Id rather no have 10 pt system in MMA also but to use that to say its not exciting any more? Just not true.
'not like ancient PRIDE fighters became ufc champs'
Who? Shogun?? He was 28
Nog? was an Interim"
Werdum too,
i love how MMA fans have no concept on what injuries and age does to the human body,
we expect fighters to have like a 10 year prime where they are one of the best in the world. |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | Clark canât see |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | But he's not done |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Clark is growing |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | Surprise, the hulk is gassing |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Great takedown!! |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | Clark doing good cage work with the defense, then those knees. Now the mounts. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Nasty, I believe Clark wins |
Deez
06.06.20 | i love how MMA fans have no concept on what injuries and age does to the human body,'
hahah what??YOURE the one who said 'ancient fighters' stop contradicting yourself
Take youre high horse shit away from me mate your talking down to the wrong person. I started watching MMA in 1997 and had to have events sent on VHS from the states. I started BJJ in 2004 and have rolled with multiple champions. And trained all over the world at some legendary gyms. Foh with that 'i know more than everyone else'shit |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Great win ;) |
Deez
06.06.20 | Amanda has never been in trouble either, '
I dont understand this comment. Seen her in trouble many times. Not for a long time. But seen it. As already said she lost to Shevchenko in my eyes too |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Agreed |
Colton
06.06.20 | Perez can throw some crazy volume |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Formiga moves like Mickey Mouse |
Josh D.
06.06.20 | Honestly, I somehow didnât see that Shevchenko fight, but after that, she runs through everyone.
I love Valentina though, sheâs so sharp, I want her to beat my ass |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Technically, Valentina is easily the best female fighter |
Trundle
06.06.20 | lol deez, i don't really understand what you're mad about, in fight years most of the PRIDE fighters were well past their prime, yet some still became champions.
you know i didn't mean they were "literally Ancient", obviously i was being facetious,
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Josh D.
06.06.20 | Is it just me, or have some of these lighter Brazilians like Formiga and Figuieredo relied on boxing when they have a BJJ black belt. Seems to be a lack of ground game lately, and while I know strikes sell fights, itâs called MMA for a reason |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | "strikes sell fights" you've said it. |
Deez
06.06.20 | Haha 'im mad' ??dude. Blowing in here with your UFC sucks!!
I lost my shit when Nog beat Silvia man but it was interim so I dont count it. Werdum had already been in SF before hand too. Shogan peaked young for sure in hindsight but those 2 wins (he won the first for me) against machida were huge. He wasnt past it he just ran into a young Jon jones |
Trundle
06.06.20 | "Haha 'im mad' ??dude. Blowing in here with your UFC sucks!! "
posting a contrary opinion on an internet forum?
HOW DARE I!
also the difference in shogun before his second ACL tear shows a completely different fighting style than the one we see after
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Josh D.
06.06.20 | Joe just said this will be OâMalleyâs biggest test, what da fuck |
Deez
06.06.20 | Yeah agree with that trundle. Coulda cried when Forest strangled him. |
TheNotrap
06.06.20 | Yeah, OâMalley is super favorite |
Deez
06.07.20 | It is his hardest fight |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Youâve lost the plot, m8 |
Deez
06.07.20 | Whos was harder? |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | OâMalleyâs last fight was against a contender. Eddie is journeyman level competition |
Deez
06.07.20 | Eddies a vet some good wins and been in the with better fighters than anyone O malley has fought so far,probably combined. O malley smokes him but don't discount experience making things uncomfortable. Dont think anyone else on O malleys resume ever fought for a title |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Pitolo looks bigger |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | I posted th odds above, the books agree with me. After blitzing his last fight, Eddie is a weird next fight |
Deez
06.07.20 | Agree with what? O malleys a favourite cos hes far the better fighter and eddies 35 and should win with ease That has nothing to do in relation to Eddie being his toughest fight it clearly is. Theres not a single fight on Seans resume whos fought for a UFC title. |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Iâm saying Seanâs last fight was bigger, so this is a step backward |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Jose Quinonez is a contender and had some wins, Eddie is a guy |
Deez
06.07.20 | Dude this how fighters are made. Fight guys with simialir experience and then putting them in with a veteran whos been doing it for years and see where hes at.
Classic building a fighter. Quinonez isnt and has never been a contender hahha dudes 8 and 4 |
Deez
06.07.20 | Hahah what wins?? |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Jose won 5 of 6 going into that fight. |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Is that building a fighter? |
Deez
06.07.20 | Or lost 2 of his last 3 |
Deez
06.07.20 | And a couple of lacklustre decisions against no ones |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | You can say that as a best for Eddie, thatâs my point. Buttttt letâs talk after the fight, anything can happen |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Hahah DC is inspired |
Deez
06.07.20 | It doesnt really matter he shouldnt cause any problems for Omalley so a pointless debate really but if your honesty making a stand for quinonez being a togher fight than wineland when CLEARLY not I dunno what to tell you. |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | He is |
Deez
06.07.20 | Lol just me and rogan in the wrong.
Dying on the wrong island there Josh but whatever |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Tying a boat to Rogan is embarassing, but weâre just predicting fights, are you gonna be ok? |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Isn't Kelleher the guy who posts videos singing with guitar? |
Deez
06.07.20 | Yeah 'boating' to 40 year Martial arts expert and 20 year commentator ,double bjj black belt over a guy called Josh on sput who thinks a 8/4 no mark is a bigger challenge than a 10 year vet who fought for the title. Embarrassing |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | I always confuse the stuffy bald guys like him and Josh Emmett |
Deez
06.07.20 | 'Were just predicting fights'
Were not. We both agree o malley will win handily thats not the point. If you think green is red despite obviously being green what ya gonna do? |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | What I mean is, and I stated it already, anything can happen. And sean being a big favorite strengthens my confusion at this being his next fight. Itâs not complicated, are you mad at me? |
Deez
06.07.20 | Dont resort to the 'are you mad' dude such a shit argument.
I agree with that! He needs to be stepping up a lot more from quinonez to wineland. Eddie being 35 you can rightly argue hes not fought anyone still even after this win. Wineland being his only 'name' and a mid tier one. |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Nah, Iâd didnât mean to demean Eddie, I just said itâs a step down. Thatâs it. The sport is about up and comers and losers. Jose was coming up, Eddie has always been middling. Thereâs nothing else to it |
Deez
06.07.20 | His time out hasnt helped obviously |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.07.20 | just come over and watch gay porn already |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Make me and I will |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | I guess now that weâve argued about it, Eddie is gonna find a chin and yâall can shove it in my face. Heâs a gamer though, so I look forward to it |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | This fight is kinda ZZZzzz |
Deez
06.07.20 | Hahha Seen it a million times where a veteran ruled out calls on experience of being in there with the best in his divison over many years to pull out the shock.
Do not see it at all with O mallley though the kids special. |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | I feel like every Staman fight has gone to decision, lemme look it up |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.07.20 | yall should just admit you want that Ultimate Frottage Championship already |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | No, heâs had some finishes, I guess I just havenât watched those shows |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.07.20 | i'll finish you off 30 seconds into the first round |
Deez
06.07.20 | Untimely Felching Competition |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.07.20 | now thats the real action |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | The thing Iâm curious about with OâMalley is in his last fight, his team hyped him getting bigger. But he had an interview this week that sounded like Max Holloway when he had to pull out of the Khabib fight, I was worried. So is he getting too big? He talks pretty fast, but he sounded straight up zombie in that interview |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Emotional end |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.07.20 | too big to pull out you say? |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | God dammit Pots, kick rocks, bub. Beat it! |
Deez
06.07.20 | Tightrope to the top |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Take a hike! |
Deez
06.07.20 | Emotional end'
yeah dude , tha feelz |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Iâll get rid of pots, gotta post Killer Mike lyrics |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Stamann can't stop crying |
Deez
06.07.20 | Rogan too. shit |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | ?? Something happened with his family |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Prediction time: idk these dudes, just their names. Going with Heinisch |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | His brother died, something along those lines |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Let me check the promo |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Damn RIP |
Deez
06.07.20 | Yeah his 18 year old brother, last week I think |
Deez
06.07.20 | Gerald by Sub or Heinisch on Points
Going with the former |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | I couldn't go into the octagon if something similar happened to me |
Deez
06.07.20 | Fighters man. Different breed.
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TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Yeah |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | I want Brookliyn Wren to kick my ass |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | I bet on Ian |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Wow I finally called a fight, Iâm usually 1/3 on picks, I guess heâs my one |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.07.20 | I love kicking rocks |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Massive right hand!!!!! |
Deez
06.07.20 | 'Licking cocks' AMIRITE GIRLZ?? |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Poured Lots))) imo |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
06.07.20 | Haaaaay |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Ian is big business |
budgie
06.07.20 | pots did not strike me as the sort of fella to watch fighting sports |
Deez
06.07.20 | I imagine him sitting there im his duds shout 'stoooooooop thatttttt' super gayly at the screen |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | do you like this?
https://twitter.com/JoshJDee/status/1269440198204698626 |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | HOOPER!!!! HOOPER!!!! HOOPER!!!! HOOPER!!!! |
Deez
06.07.20 | No
Ben askrens son for the win |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Hahahah |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Hummm Hooper seems nervous |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | hooper, I hardly know her
I think I need to change streams, I'm seeing commercials, are we on main card? |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Not yet |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Iâve had a few beers, Iâll figure it outb |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | GO HOOPER!!!! |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Bruce Leroy is a pretty good nickname in a sea of very bad ones |
Deez
06.07.20 | Chase getting picked off |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Dude is getting pieced |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Hooper has been a disappointment so far |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | I wouldnât be mad at a 10-8, Caceres wasnât even pressing forward and still found chin until the bell. |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Dude, Alexâs slips, those check hooks, jabs, this is domination |
Deez
06.07.20 | Men against boys so far |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Damn I've just lost the stream |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Youâre missing a 20-16 or 19-17, Hooper is getting whipped |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | I'm in...Hooper needs a KO. He's still a young bird |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | This is 30-26 unanimous |
Deez
06.07.20 | Easy. |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Yeah it could be |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Chase showed some toughness, and Alex has beautiful boxing. Looking forward to both of these guys in the future |
dbizzles
06.07.20 | Too much too soon, but I picked Hooper lol. Thought heâd be able to get it to the ground but he got dad dicked. |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | I want to watch this again just watch Alex slip a whole combo and slap back |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | My man Hooper left a lot to be desired. DAMN |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | 30-27 |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Crazy, a dude bet a million dollars on Amanda. |
Deez
06.07.20 | Yeah he came forward too much for it to be 26 m but man he got picked off . Extremely basic stand up from Hooper. Alex couldnt miss even when his feet where in bad positions he could get out without being challenged. Great performance. |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | here's a thought: IF Garbrandt loses, that's 4 in a row. Is he still in UFC, or does he get "cut", does he go to another promotion and claim the UFC doesn't pay, idk. I know he was champ, and looked good as hell doing it, but this feels like a must win, otherwise is he fighting John Dodson for a top 10 spot? Damn. |
Deez
06.07.20 | Yeah massive fight for him. |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Sorry, I just get annoyed by 30 year olds shouting âyouâre fakeâ, which heâs done to TJ for years, and itâs funnier now because he went to a different camp for this fight. Christ, how can you be elite and tough and also act like a tween |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | 4 in a row? Didnât know that...if he loses, he's out. |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Two to Tj, then Pedro Munhoz faceplanted him in a wild exchange |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | O'Malley!!!! O'Malley!!!! O'Malley!!!! O'Malley!!!! |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Here we go, Suga show |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | You gotta respect this moustache |
Colton
06.07.20 | -500 is crazy for OâMalley. I expect him to win but damn |
Deez
06.07.20 | Sugar in the 2nd |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | 1st. TKO |
Colton
06.07.20 | Holy shit |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Eddie is putting the pressure, hold up |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Welp |
Deez
06.07.20 | Boooooooom |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Alright, Suga is For. Real. |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | MASSIVE |
dbizzles
06.07.20 | Hype cashing in |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | My man, thatâs why I argued. Fuckin hell, what a hand |
Deez
06.07.20 | He was already hurt to the body they didnt pick on it. He lowered his elbow and kinda took a breath than got hit with another kick to the body. Was wide open after that uppercut feint. Beautiful |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Barely broke a sweat, look at him. |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | I feel bad for the other guy, awesome moustache |
Deez
06.07.20 |
thatâs why I argued'
We werent arguing about omalley! Theyre calling it his biggest win,his statement win, dc,rogan,anik,omalley himself all saying this was his biggest test thats what I was arguing i never once said he wouldnt win easily |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Uncle Creepy has been out of the game, Eddie said âI got youâ |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Lol I thought we were, whatever |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Epic KO, this guy is the real deal |
Deez
06.07.20 | You KNOW we werent. Find me were i said he wouldnt win handily. Every single person on that broadcast said that was his biggest test. It was. Everyone also assumed he pass with flying colours. He did. |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | alright, break time question: Tyson Fury has to fight AJ now, yeh? There's no one else, the unquestionable top 2. If they say it's money, bullllllshit, those mfers are getting paid, fight mother fuckers. |
Deez
06.07.20 | O malley v marlon vera next. Top 15 guy please |
Deez
06.07.20 | Why 'now' ? Has something happened? Wilder had a rematch clause |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | I'm not into boxing, but Tyson Fury is the man |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Top 5 next |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | I don't think I know the next guys... |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Wilder got rightfully knocked, I'm askign just cuz I'm ready for another big boxing match. Fury will starch him again. He got jobbed in the first, stomped Wilder in the second, it's time for AJ. |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | You know who we need to see in the UFC though is that madman Petr Yan.
Different division, I can't believe the UFC hasn't promoted Do Bronx, most submissions in UFC history, but he's been knocking dudes out. While he's relatively young, put that man up. |
Deez
06.07.20 | This could be good |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | I like this fight, Rocco looks good |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | I also like this smaller Octagon at the Apex. |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Gotta go Rocco 29-28 |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | It's close |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | robbery |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | two 30-27? gtfo |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | I donât know... Rocco's last round was a disaster |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | I'm gonna go protest, and when a cop blasts me with a rubber bullet, I'll win 30-27 apparently |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | But yeah, 30-27 is weird |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Magny won 3, thats it, but two judges said he 10-9'd all three, madness |
Deez
06.07.20 | Thought it could have been a draw . Rocco first 2 and a 10-8 third but all 3 rounds? Sounds like Magny put struck rocco every round too which was suprising |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Next fight's gonna be a bloodbath |
Deez
06.07.20 | Defo gave rocco 1 and Magny 3 |
dbizzles
06.07.20 | Letâs see if Sandhagen is as good as I think he is. RD 2 TKO. |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Cory!!!!! Cory!!!!! Cory!!!!! Cory!!!!! Cory!!!!! |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | alright, Aljo time, this should be good, lemme make a prediction right now: Sandhagen in 2 |
dbizzles
06.07.20 | Fuck |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | wow |
dbizzles
06.07.20 | Sterling impressed. |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | I picked Cory thinking there'd be a feeling out process, but Aljo said "fuck that" |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | WTF????? |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | he's dry too, that's a title shot |
Trundle
06.07.20 | Sterling also subbed a guy with the "Suloev Stretch" fairly recently,
Amar RIP |
Deez
06.07.20 | The man Dbizz showing up.
Great win for Sterling. Went at it |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | "I'm coming on that ass" - Aljamain Sterling |
dbizzles
06.07.20 | I think this is make or break for Garbrandt. I picked Assuncao. |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | See Petr Yan's name on that list? They're scared of that dude, I promise you. That motherfucker is a terminator. |
Deez
06.07.20 | Its Yan or Aldo so...
Yeah yans a beast |
Deez
06.07.20 | Cody crying next please |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Garbrandt has been KOed thrice, time for Rafael to put a choke on this goof, tired of this man. Hopefully this BJJ black belt finds a leg. |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | What a disappointment. If Cory doesn't win the next 2 fights properly, he's over. |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Hahah Cody gets a lot of hate here |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | That was the highest stake of a fight for the division, so no shame in losing. He'll be back. That division isn't stacked like lightweight. |
Trundle
06.07.20 | idk cody doesn't seem too bright, i mean the whole tj vs team alpha male sub plot was so cringe worthy, Faber really seemed to push the personal aspect on cody,
even though all tj did was change camps, something that happens all the time, |
Deez
06.07.20 | Hes a good fighter hes just a meathead. Much the same as Gaetjhe he needs to evolve and stop being so hot headed. Back to the guy who beat Cruz by being calculated.
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Josh D.
06.07.20 | Cody changed camps for this fight too, which is why it'd be so funny for him to get starched. Luckily for him, he's got dynamite in his cross. |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Cody by decision |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Tentative first round, Cody is so fast, not sure what Rafael will do to get inside |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Assuncao has to shoot |
Trundle
06.07.20 | anyone else pissed off that the ufc is still doing these giant tweet pop ups mid fight |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | yes |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Yep |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | I'll never understand these BJJ experts standing and trading. |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Hahahahah |
Deez
06.07.20 | Oh good lord |
dbizzles
06.07.20 | Wowowowow |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Looks like this time he wasn't saved by the bell |
Deez
06.07.20 | anyone else pissed off that the ufc is still doing these giant tweet pop ups mid fight'
Dude for fucks sake ever since that celeb BS started it makes me wanna puke. Who gives a fuck what rihanna thinks about the fight. Thats going mainstream for ya |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | As usual, my picks trend towards 50%. Crazy sport, that's why I watch it. |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Massive |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Cody waited, got the feint, Rafael didn't throw with conviction, Cody landed. The opposite of his losses, he finally beat his opponent to the punch. He's back in the mix. |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Any Canadians here?
You guys need to support your girl!!! |
Deez
06.07.20 | He sounds in a real good place Cody. Speaking very calm and zen. |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Predictions? |
Deez
06.07.20 | I think he actually threw a bit of haymaker because the 10 second warning had gone. He kinda did the same end of first round without the punch. Just kinda sat back then a went for a last second KO and executed it perfectly. Looked very very sharp. |
Deez
06.07.20 | Cant go against Nunes.
Size could be a problem though but i mean how you go against someone who smoked Cyborg |
Trundle
06.07.20 | one time i entered a pick 'em contest, i ended up doing better than 99.4% of participants, the contest was for a big screen tv, and this was during the TUF noob affliction tap out era, so i liked my chances,
anyways, we had to pick the winners of 10 or so events,
somehow i picked all 10 winners from ufc 122,
obvs though, i was never to replicate that, i mean some cards, every fight you're invested in comes out the way you wanted it to, other days you get every fight wrong |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | If Amanda doesn't finish in 1, she'll wear Felicia down. She KOed Cyborg, but also wore out Germaine in a dog fight, so she can do it in any way. I'll make a prediction: Amanda in the second. The only reason I say second is I usually expect champs to take caution up front. She didn't against Cyborg, but no fight is the same. |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | I'd like Spencer to win, but it'll be too hard. Spencer will have to take the few opportunities she'll have. |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | She needs to take it to the five round |
Deez
06.07.20 | I won 2000 on Holm Beating Rousey. That was glorious. 1400 on joshua ruiz too. It all went back of course |
Trundle
06.07.20 | "I won 2000 on Holm Beating Rousey. That was glorious. 1400 on joshua ruiz too. It all went back of course"
fuck, that's a pandora's box i don't want to open, one time when my buddy bet me that Brett Rogers was gonna beat Josh Barnett, i obviously accepted, and tried to increase the stakes but he wouldn't budge,
only made 20 bucks |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | 10-8 Amanda |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | credit to Felicia, she took some bombs in 1. Amanda had 3 minutes to work, but didn't advance. Feels like she just wants to ground and pound, which, whatever, it works, |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | amanda stuffed the take down, immediately into under hooks, got her own take down. Damn. |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | 10-9 |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Felicia is on the back foot dodging bullets, she's gotta hail mary already only 2 rounds in |
Deez
06.07.20 | only made 20 bucks'
Hahha best to keep it at that level. Once you go big its game over.
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Josh D.
06.07.20 | this is almost hard to watch |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Spencer's getting her ass kicked :( |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | Felicia can take a punch though, if Amanda hit me with one of those I'd die |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Damn she made it to five round |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | omg the hematoma |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | someone should have called this after 4 |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Herb needs to stop this |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | What a massacre |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | who is gonna beat Amanda |
Deez
06.07.20 | Should have been stopped long before. Nunes untouchable right now.
5 40 am here
Bedtime. Josh/trap/trundle cheers lads. Turned into a real good card. |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Ngannou |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Yeah, bedtime. Cheers guys |
Trundle
06.07.20 | 5:40 am, fuck dude, hespect.
i grew up in PST, i remember staying up all night to watch the k-1 GP, i think those started at midnight for me,
when i went to School on the east coast, event's started at 11:00pm, our time, in atlantic canada, and at the time, MMA was still very very niche, up here, it's hockey first, everything else.....last, so i totally know what it's like to have to choose between hangin with your buds and getting drunk and getting drunk by yourself so you can stay up all night so you can watch doods smash each others faces in.
obviously, most of the time, i chose the latter |
Trundle
06.07.20 | also dizz, cuz you invoked the "i trane ufc clause" then i would like to know what belt you are, what belt your coach is / who gave him his black belt,
all i know is, i'm the one who trained muay thai / kickboxing at blackhouse: team nogueira, and my main coach at home coached guys like UFC champ Frank Shamrock, and Oleg Taktarov as well as former K-1 and Glory champ, Gabriel Varga.
i would love to hear your world class regimen
sorry dude, you're the one who brought it up, not me, it's just really bothering me that you postured like that
no one who knows anything about MMA would say Shogun was in his prime vs Jones |
Deez
06.07.20 | Jesus dude are for real? OK LONG POST INCOMING.....
Youre the one who came in here posturing 'YOU GUYS DONT KNOW SHIT/UFC SUCKS/YOU MMA FANS' yadda yadda.Usual high horse shit from people instantly wanting to tell you they know more than you ( i used to do this ALL the time). I never played the 'train UFC' card , I simply said youre condescending the wrong person as Ive been watching MMA for 20 years and also started BJJ in 2004. So im hardly a noob. I never claimed to be a fighter. Mad how you commented multiple times since that not mentioning this obvious comeback (well actually I trained here here and here) and now 3 hours later youe back with a resume hahah Trying to out resume my non existent resume. Almost like you just made it up.
If youre saying things like its really bothering me' to a comment on the internet among arrogance like 'all I know is I'M the one who trained..' literally 3 hours later hahah i think that says it all.
Any way ive only done bits of boxing and muay thai. I trained as a kid with an english and European champion but that means nothing it was only bits and pieces. I lived in asia for 4 years. I trained at Tiger muay thai long before it is what it is now so I could say I trained at the place where almost every great MMA fight has trained now. Gsp,anderson,Shevchenko, I mean everyone trains there now and then, as well as all time great Muay thai fighters and coaches. Ive also done random muay thai and khmer boxing at tiny unknown places in those countries.
I trained BJJ in Sydney under Rezende who got his wings under Machacdo and his black belt under carlos gracie jnr in rio. He won masters and pan american he was a blackbelt when he moved to oz 16 yrs agos is that legit enough for you?
While training there nak,te huna,morris,hunt, also Paq and some semi known fighters boxed in that gym when they were in oz. Some olympic gold medalists etc. There was no BJJ schools in 2004 near me. I pieced up to yellow and stopped 10 years ago when i moved into the mountains. I dont even do sit ups anymore and am an out of shape old man. Ive still watched more MMA than anyone I know but dont act to be better or more knowledgable. I will just tell people to gtfoh where the try talking down to me about MMA. Not everyones a casual.
I also never once said Shogun was in his prime. YOU said he was ancient and well past it in the UFC I said he was 28. Stop making shit up cos its all in text above. Shogun was past his best I already said that too but far from ancient when he won the title in the UFC he just ran into a Prime JJ as he was on the slide. A bad cocktail. Thats what I said. Prime Shogun was 2005. 4 years ealier.
Hope you can move on now babe x />
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TheNotrap
06.07.20 | McGregor has announced his retirement:
"Hey guys I've decided to retire from fighting," the tweet said. "Thank you all for the amazing memories! What a ride it's been! Here is a picture of myself and my mother in Las Vegas post one of my World title wins! Pick the home of your dreams Mags I love you! Whatever you desire it's yours"
I donât buy it. |
Deez
06.07.20 | Couple of months ago
'I AM HUNGRY. IM BACK. THIS IS MY 2020 SEASON'
JUNE - 'IM RETIRED"
Massive diva attention whore. Always does this shit on fight nights to take peoples shine away.
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TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Someone should stop Conor from twittering when he's drunk. |
Trundle
06.07.20 | Deez
06.06.20
[Report this Post] "Haha 'im mad' ??dude. Blowing in here with your UFC sucks!!
I lost my shit when Nog beat Silvia man but it was interim so I dont count it. Werdum had already been in SF before hand too. Shogan peaked young for sure in hindsight but those 2 wins (he won the first for me) against machida were huge. He wasnt past it he just ran into a young Jon jones"
most people i know who say they've been watching since the 90's don't think the ufc is as good today as it was back in the 06-2012/2013 era, most older fans also soundly agree that PRIDE was better back then in it's prime, and it's also better now,
so again kinda hard to take another totally unverifiable claim of someone who has "world class training been watching tapes since the 90's" taking a stance that only new fans / zuffa zombies take
also, i haven't slept in two days, so there's that
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Deez
06.07.20 | 'most people i know who say they've been watching since the 90's don't think the ufc is as good today as it was back in the 06-2012/2013'
And Where did I say it was?
'most older fans also soundly agree that PRIDE was better back then, and it's also better now'
And where did I say it wasn't?
Again youre completely making shit up. And regardless even if I did agree with those statements (which I dont and never said). That would somehow 'Out' me because older fans 'YOU KNOW' who lived through mid to late 2000 MMA think the same so that must be the case for every single fan across the globe otherwise youre lying?? hahaha DO you realise how fucking stupid you sound??
Maybe shouldn't have used 'past it'r e:Shogun he was clearly past his best but he wasn't 'finished'. I never once said that was in his prime did I?? He beat Machida twice ffs. (should have got the 1st for sure) he avenged his only other loss in the UFC after the Jones fight. Had one of the top 3 fights in MMA history. KO'd Liddell , Beat Nog ,Corey Anderson and Pedro just last year. He was FAR from finished in 2007. Just not at his peak but still dangerous for ANY fighter regardless of company
'so again kinda hard to take another totally unverifiable claim of someone who has "world class training been watching tapes since the 90's" taking a stance that only new fans / zuffa zombies take'
What stance??? That the UFC ISNT shit today hahah Thats it. Oh and 28 isnt ancient Thats the stance? fuck me. I couldnt care fucking less whether you 'believe me' or not mate hahaha
Im the exact opposite to youre 'its really bothering me' I dont not care. Im debating with you about MMA. Your perception of length of time ive been a fan means absolutely nothing to me. |
Trundle
06.07.20 | "Againt youre completely making shit up. And regardless even if I did agree with those statements. That would somehow 'Out' me . As every since person who lived through mid to late 2000 MMA thinks EXACTLY the same. ANd if you dont then you must be lying. DO you realise how fucking stupid you sound??"
uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh have you ever visited an MMA forum, ever, there's a pretty big consensus on those issues, has been for awhile, your opinions are definitely not in the norm for someone who has watched since the beginning. also, it's not just the fans, many fighters don't like the direction the UFC has gone in, some of them, are UFC hall of famers.
"Maybe shouldnt have used 'past it' he was clearly past his best but he wasnt finished. He beat Machina twice ffs. (should have) avenged his only other loss in the UFC after the Jones fight. Had one of the top 3 fights in MMA history. KO'd Liddell , Beat Nog ,COrey Anderson and Pedro just last year. He was FAR from finished in2007."
lol dude, again, wtf are you talking about? Did you see Shogun's first fight with Forrestt, or his second coleman fight? at that point, a stiff breeze could knock Chuck out. Shogun winning the title was amazing, but he kinda lucked in to his Title shot cause there weren't any other contenders available at the time.
The difference between the PRIDE MW GP shogun and the ufc shogun is so apparent i can't believe i have to try this hard to explain it to you
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Deez
06.07.20 | uuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh have you ever visited an MMA forum, ever, there's a pretty big consensus on those issues'
https://forums.sherdog.com/members/deezer.38500/
Theres my 2004 active Sherdog profile that I use today.
Maybe I travelled back in time to make to look cool to Trundle off Sputnik.
'it's not just the fans, many fighters don't like the direction the UFC has gone in, some of them, are UFC hall of famers.'your opinions are definitely not in the norm for someone who has watched since the beginning'
Neither do I. That still doesnt mean its been shit for the 8 years. It hasnt. I never said it was 'as good' or 'better' than anything. YOU did. Youre literally arguing with yourself.
And who fucking cares what the 'norm' is? hahaha Is Theres an 'old heads' concencous I just have to subscribe too?? Some dogmatic MMA club im not aware of?
'The difference between the PRIDE MW GP shogun and the ufc shogun is so apparent i can't believe i have to try this hard to explain it to you'
Where the fuck did I say 2005 SHogun was anywhere near UFC shogun? Where? Not fucking once!! Why you just making shit up. Youre either trolling or super dense. Youre not trying to convince me of anything Im saying he wasnt finished How cold he be. I never once said he was as good inface I said the opposite MULTIPLE times. hahaah Absolute madman |
Trundle
06.07.20 | jesus christ karen you're emotional,
you keep back tracking on everything
"
Neither do I. That still doesnt mean its been shit for the 8 years. It hasnt."
um, kinda does when you count the fact that from then on we have to watch midgets and girl fights on main cards,
i'm not sure if i can even think of 5 female fighters worth watching in all of the divisions put together,
that's why Holm can lose her way to Title shots |
Josh D.
06.07.20 | I drank a 12 pack yesterday |
Deez
06.07.20 | Havent backtracked on a single thing you just dont take things in or read and say I said something I didnt.
Pride was the heyday of MMA. Nothing will touch it. Ever. UFC has had some of its greatest fighters and its greatest fights in the last 10 years as well as some of its deepest divisions. Its undoubtably not 'Shit' but its direction (especially since Conor) has been grim. Interims all over, double champs without defending. Rankings meaning fuck all. Shit WMMA fights. Over saturation.
Its no where near its glory days (of which there have been many) but to pass it off as just shite. Its not true.
'we have to watch midgets' As apossed to Bigfoot/Zuluzihnio/Hong Choi/Bob Sapp
How awful.
Im not a fan of WMMA at all. Nunes if fucking great though so it shevchenko. Rose too. Zheng now also. Theyre probably the only 4 i care about. But its still an infant sport wmma. No problem with the likes of those 4 on the main. Anyone else (jessica eye next week ffs) is a waste |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Cheers Josh
I almost finished my bottle of whiskey ;) We have to do this again, but next time I don't know if I can stay till the end... I went to bed too late hahah |
Trundle
06.07.20 | uh, Bigfoot actually was a top 10 hw, before they banned TRT, something that he actually had a medical reason to use, gigantism, unlike literally every other ufc fighter,
dude actually had brain surgery after the TRT ban to try and stay competitive,
also Bob nearly beat the HW champ in his third fight with no training or technique, he also beat Mr. Perfect, arguably the k-1 GOAT, twice, but after Cro Cop shattered Sapp 's orbital, he stopped trying period, cause he would rather make as much money as he could taking dives than actually try and get really injured
again, fucking Greg Hardy has to go to hell and back to beat guys like Sosoli and Crowder
again, common knowledge, so it's odd seeing world class martial arts gurus like yourself making those statements,
"Havent backtracked on a single thing you just dont take things in or read and say I said something I didnt."
you've actually done that multiple times now, now you're conceding the fact that the ufc product has gotten worse,
that wasn't the tune you were singing earlier |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | Although it wasn't an amazing card it did have its strong moments. O'Malley and Cody's KOs were the evening highlights, along with Sterling and Amanda's total dominance. Cory Sandhagen and Chase Hooper were the biggest disappointments. |
Deez
06.07.20 | I actually meant giant silva. Not bigfoot.
You state some history about a fighter and then assume i dont know its and then say 'eeryone knows that why dont you?' as if i dont. Really weird way of debating and making a point that leaves you looking real stupid. You just cant see it.
I would rather watch 10 high level b/w fights than 10 freakshow bob sapp mma fights(dives!!)or a hong choi mounting fedor just cos of size. One of my fave fights ever is a stawweight boxer. I dont care about size of fighters. And while your on about Cro cop a prime example. For every werdum,shogun who cane over and won a title theres a cro cop and gomi who utterly failed and I can say that as a massive pride fan.
A 'World class ma gurus'
"IM thE oNe WhO traIned A7 teaM nOg!!'
Hahah fuck off.
Find me one backtrack please.
And find me one time where i said UFC was better now than it ever was. I said 'it wasnt shit'youre adding loads to that I never said even though its all there in text you utter maniac. Im not backtracking on sayingvthe UFC is not shit. Its not.
Theres another UFC thread on my lists from 2 years ago where we talk about the exact same thing. The direction of the business and their model sucks. The fighers and fights dont. Why cant you separate those simple fucking distinctuons despite repeating them over and over.
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Deez
06.07.20 | Its also hilarious 2 people shouting each other and josh and trap pop up with an unrelated comment like were just on 'block ' haha |
Trundle
06.07.20 | man deez you're losing it,
this is your reply to my argument about how the ufc is not in fact growing.
Deez
06.06.20
[Report this Post] i love how MMA fans have no concept on what injuries and age does to the human body,'
hahah what??YOURE the one who said 'ancient fighters' stop contradicting yourself
"Take youre high horse shit away from me mate your talking down to the wrong person. I started watching MMA in 1997 and had to have events sent on VHS from the states. I started BJJ in 2004 and have rolled with multiple champions. And trained all over the world at some legendary gyms. Foh with that 'i know more than everyone else'shit"
in your own words you've done world class training,
also, you totally back tracked your opinion on Shogun,
again since you were the one who boasted about your training and renting the tapes, which is a hallmark of all internet trolls
so i told you about where i trained,
all your posts are littered with emotions,
the fact that i really upset you with my opinions about the ufc this much is pretty hilarious, what did you say ? "I'm NOT the one you want to have this conversation with"
and now you're just showing how little you know |
TetraVaal
06.07.20 | "I trained BJJ in Sydney under Rezende"
No you didn't. |
Colton
06.07.20 | I'm disappointed in Sandhagen man, really thought he was gonna go on a big win streak after his last fight. |
Deez
06.07.20 | Honesty trundle youre taking up well too much of my time now by and just repeatedly making no sense at all.
'this is your reply to my argument about how the ufc is not in fact growing.'
Theres not one thing in your pasted comment about the UFC growing/not growing. hahah You MUST be on a wind up. That makes no sense at all.
I ask you to point out a back track (Shogun is your only one ...where??) and you just put something else completely irrelevant? You called him 'ancient' then said you didnt mean 'ancient that was just a turn of phrase' Thats literally backtracking! I said he was not past it. What I should have said was not finished. I already addressed that and it means the same thing I never said that was peak/prime. If I did quote me.
You are sarcasticlly saying 'World MMA guru' I said I 'wasnt even remotely a fighter'.
'In your own words' haha Where? I said where I had trained at these placees. Being at a gym that includes high level fighters doesnt mean your world class training. You can be a white belt while others are training for national championships. My point was if I knew about MMA in 2004 I cant be a fucking casual can I? So they were not my words AT ALL.
'hallmark of all internet trolls ' This is trying again to pass yourself off as the high priest of MMA and everyone else a nob despite me showing you my Sherdog account from 2004 hahah Thats 16 years ago I was at the very least AWARE of MMA isnt it? Where as it took you 3 hours to say youd trained at Team Nog! and name drop a few others. Not suss at all.
Dont resort to 'your upset/triggered' come on. Such a cop out. Ill always debate passionately about sport. I can assure you Im not even remotely aggro.
"I'm NOT the one you want to have this conversation with" i think I actually said 'Youre talking DOWN to the wrong person' which is an entirely different context and yet Clearly fucking proven but how many times youve been had off.
'the fact that i really upset you with my opinions about the ufc this much is pretty hilarious,'
' it's just really bothering me that you postured like that'
honestly. completely fucking oblivious to your irony.
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Deez
06.07.20 | 'No you didn't.'
Yes I did 2004-2005. Thats where I started BJJ. As I worked in Manly for 6 months backpacking. |
TheNotrap
06.07.20 | "I'm disappointed in Sandhagen man, really thought he was gonna go on a big win streak after his last fight."
Worse than his defeat was the way he lost. If he doesn't have conclusive wins in his next two fights, he's done. |
Deez
06.07.20 | I'm disappointed in Sandhagen man, really thought he was gonna go on a big win streak after his last fight.'
Same |
Trundle
06.07.20 | "it's just really bothering me that you postured like that'
honestly. completely fucking oblivious to your irony."
see, you're still doing it, literally NO ONE talked about training till you boasted about your "world class training with world champions" and after i dissed the UFC You said "You do NOT want to have this conversation with me"
irony, i don't think that word means what you think it means
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Deez
06.07.20 | "world class training with world champions" cut and paste where I said that
"You do NOT want to have this conversation with me" cut and paste that
both made up in Trundles wee head. |
Trundle
06.07.20 | "Deez
06.06.20
[Report this Post] i love how MMA fans have no concept on what injuries and age does to the human body,'
hahah what??YOURE the one who said 'ancient fighters' stop contradicting yourself
Take youre high horse shit away from me mate your talking down to the wrong person. I started watching MMA in 1997 and had to have events sent on VHS from the states. I started BJJ in 2004 and have rolled with multiple champions. And trained all over the world at some legendary gyms. Foh with that 'i know more than everyone else'shit" |
Deez
06.07.20 | Where does it say EITHER of those things in QUOTE marks in that?? hahaha Proof of what im saying.
'YOU SAID THIS'
'PROVE IT'
*POSTS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT*
'SEE!!'
'Ive rolled with champions'. Yes as as blue and white belt since I already told you Im a yellow and 'not a fighter'
Thats 'World class training'? Thats beginners training.
'your talking DOWN to the wrong person.'
'You do NOT want to have this conversation with me'
Two COMPLETELY different sentences. |
Trundle
06.07.20 | "i have rolled with multiple champions and trained all over the world at legendary gyms"
i love how the fact that someone called bull-shit on you has you whipped into a frenzy
"Dont resort to 'your upset/triggered' come on. Such a cop out. Ill always debate passionately about sport. I can assure you Im not even remotely aggro."
you're literally the only one throwing out insults, but you're totally not upset, right?
self awareness, try it some time
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Deez
06.07.20 | i love how the fact that someone called bull-shit on you has you whipped into a frenzy'
YouR TriGGErEd BraH CAlm dOWn.
Here we go, changing the subject AGAIN!. Because you cannot back up anything you just said.
I didnt say EITHER of those two things that YOU yourself have put quote marks around haha.
YES ive rolled with multiple champs and trained at Legendary gyms. NO I never said ONCE that made me WORLD CLASS or was WORLD CLASS TRAINING. Made up in your own head just like the other sentence you cant back up haha.
Dude im from liverpool, Please dont get twisted if I say fuck as being aggro.
Its part of nearly every sentence out of my mouth, for real. |
Trundle
06.07.20 | "Take youre high horse shit away from me mate your talking down to the wrong person. I started watching MMA in 1997 and had to have events sent on VHS from the states. I started BJJ in 2004 and have rolled with multiple champions. And trained all over the world at some legendary gyms. Foh with that 'i know more than everyone else'shit"
now ask yourself, does that make it sound that you're actually not trying to portray yourself as a "real" badass
that's how you responded to someone who talked crap about a fucking prize fighting promotion
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Deez
06.07.20 | Ok ok. Maybe it can perceived that way I get ya. But thats not at all what I meant.
If youre as long time a fan as you say you know exactly what its like when some little Conor Mcgregor dork starts talking down to you about the finer points of MMA. It gets boring. ANd quite annoying. You straight away came in here with your 'I KNOW THIS AND YOU ALL DONT KNOW SHIT'.
'I LOVE IT WHEN MMA FANS....' is a TYPICAL high horse,ridiculing sentence beginner.
That was a short diatribe of why youre condescending the wrong person in that respect. |
Deez
06.07.20 | 'Talking down to the wrong person' was meant as Im not some fucking noob who doesnt know shit.
not 'dont talk down to me mofo im HARD' |
Deez
06.07.20 | I actually thought by putting 'Mate' in there it was lessoning the big bollocks. Shame you didnt pick up on that.
I quickly said I was 'NOT a fighter'and was only a yellow belt so how 'Badass' was that potrayal? Surely Id have gone up to purple at least and thrown a 'I CAN HANDLE MYSELF' in there |
Trundle
06.07.20 | "i love how the fact that someone called bull-shit on you has you whipped into a frenzy'
YouR TriGGErEd BraH CAlm dOWn.
Here we go, changing the subject AGAIN!. Because you cannot back up anything you just said."
again, you're the one who who's throwing out insults, if you've been watching MMA since 97 you've gotta be in your 40's at least,
a little unhealthy to be this attached to a shady fight promotion pretty soon we'll see you on youtube saying, "it's still real to me! dammit"
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Deez
06.07.20 | You should hear me when it comes to football( soccccerrrr) |
Trundle
06.07.20 | "'Talking down to the wrong person' was meant as Im not some fucking noob who doesnt know shit.
not 'dont talk down to me mofo im HARD'"
that's odd, since in this entire thread all you've done is try to act hard. |
Deez
06.07.20 | How do you 'act hard' on an internet thread hahahah Did I offer you out?? Say I was gonna kick your mums head in???
I literally just tried to back up and give you a bit of leeway and say OK IT COULD BE CONSTRUED that way I guess and STILL you cant fucking let go.
Have a rest mate |
Trundle
06.07.20 | "I literally just tried to back up and give you a bit of leeway"
lol how generous of you,
also acting like your flex about training with champions and in legendary gyms around the world actually wasn't a flex is pretty cute.
I also love how you keep calling me pretentious or a know-it-all talking down to you or w/e, yet from the beginning that's what you've been doing
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Trundle
06.07.20 | real gangsta ass niggas don't flex nuts,
cuz real gangsta ass niggas know they got em |
Deez
06.07.20 | A flex??? hahah I said Im an old man who lives in the mountains and hasnt done a sit up in 10 years. WEIRD FLEX
Self awareness you say? You said 'Just because I know more that you' but now everyone else is actng like a know all. So again. Without a hint of fucking irony.
Boring the fuck out me now Trundles. Hugs X
(please do come back if you find those quotations that dont actually exist though ya mad fruit ya x ) |
Deez
06.07.20 | P.s 1 is the greatest soundtrack of all tome trap! |
Trundle
06.07.20 | lol i said that the ufc sucks
so of course you respond about telling me about your totally not made up globe-trotting training and rubbing shoulders with champs, and that you didn't agree with my opinion and because of this totally real no foolies training you've done my opinion is wrong, of course, you couldn't possibly have listed these things so as to promote a tough image
why would you bring up this training you talk about in the first place? The topic was the ufc, not you. Literally the only reason to talk about your "world class" training was to boast, cuz on the innernette everyone gets to be a badass.
you're just pissed someone called you out on it
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TheNotrap
06.07.20 | LIVING IN AMEEEERICAAAAAA |
Trundle
06.07.20 | also, you keep saying you trained till you got your yellow belt
i guess you didn't know that there is no yellow belt in BJJ, at least for anyone over the age of 16,
it goes white, blue, purple, brown, black, red/black, red/white, red |
Deez
06.07.20 | 'I just said UFC sucks'
Come on man, This is how you rode in...
'i love how MMA fans have no concept...'
'.....fucking zuffa zombies smh'
'don't be mad cause i know what i'm talking about and you don't,'
Thats also a flex!
Also ftr I wrote this before you entered the thread I just saw...
'Been that way for years. I remember the old days when Dana would be selling MMA/UFC on TV and saying how it wasnt like boxing with 20 belts. Look at that shit now. Farce. Conors double champ shit was manufactured as fuck too and BS there had been DChamps before outside the company and better ones since but the who double champ shit is just boring now. Fighters be winning titles and wanting second belts without even defending it once. Precedent was set.'
Does it sound like I was lauding the UFC?? Not at all. Im well in agreement on modern day UFC when it comes to the company itself. |
Deez
06.07.20 | it goes white, blue, purple, brown, black, red/black, red/white, red'
Aye under Brazilain rules. I started in AUS in 2004 and got my stripes..Got up to my blue in Thailand and came back to the UK, As I said there were no schools near me in 2004 so initially I trained with some guys who were training MMA and wrestling. And a guy who ran a school off a blue belt! near by (separate) They had a different ranking system with the MMA guys it was colours instead of stripes and yellow AND orange belts which are usually kids belts (different to IBBJ)it kinda gave you 'In between belts' Its a bit lame I know I guess for motivation as there werent many of us back then. Rafeal Lovato used to do something similar with Yellow/Orange for adults (https://imgur.com/uzusU8U) . But it was 2004 man, round our way there was nothing and why I stopped (also Im claustrophobic and some situations I used to struggle with) there was a guy who taught the grappling who had trained in China ( I cant remember what) and a TKD guy and I they made there own grappling grade system which was to benefit MMA guys. They still called it BJJ though. (theyd both trained BJJ too but not extensively) It never took off and they closed. I know one of them went on to Train with Bisping early on. So yeahIm basically a blue under IBBJ but I earned that 'first' belt with those guys I got battered so I claim that yellow, proudly. |
Trundle
06.07.20 | ya, it's weird how different countries have different rules around belts.
i know here in NA people really like the belt system and some Muay Thai / kickboxing places just started handing out belts.
on some fighter's wiki's you'll can sometimes see things like "black belt in Muay Thai"
which made me do the "Fry eye squint" face the first time i saw it |
Deez
06.07.20 | Yeah dont get me wrong dude Ive had many BJJ guys just laugh at the thought of me having a yellow and say its BS and even more so thats past a blue haha I think even the ones who do yellow like Liberio usually its pre blue but those guys didnt. I think cos it was a bit DIY and wasnt affiliated. It was just some guys in a big garage who all had done bits and pieces really. They tried to get something new going but the interest wasnt there. Now theres about 6 schools within a few miles of each other. |
Trundle
06.07.20 | when you say, "Liberio"
do you mean Ricardo Liberio
or Ricardo Liborio?
cause the only evidence of "Liberio" on the internet is this pic,
https://www.pmasupermartialarts.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=201371693 |
Deez
06.07.20 | I meant Lovato sorry not Liberio although Saul and Xande Liberio could do the same as theyre connected. |
Trundle
06.07.20 | it's a shame how Lovato's career ended, especially cuz it was right after he got the title |
Deez
06.07.20 | Fk yeah man. Would have been some great fights around the corner for him/us too. |
Trundle
06.08.20 | Joe Valtellini won the Glory WW title in his last fight, he couldn't recover from his concussion issues , fuckin way she goes |
Trundle
06.08.20 | but seriously though dizz, from the start, you were the one who engaged me, throwing insults after i talked about the ufc,
an opinion that you're now claiming to share, yet all you did was insult me for saying what i said,
then you talked about how you trained with world class champs on the reg, and travelled the world, training at some of the best gyms it had,
yet, your biggest accomplishment is a BJJ "YELLOW BELT" you got from traneing in straya,
and now itt you went from rolling with world champs to getting tapped by blue belts on a consistent basis,
statistically speaking, most people who get consistently dominated by blue belts are white belts,
pro-tip, if you're going to pretend to be an innernette tough guy,
you should at least pretend that you have a belt that actually exists, and recognized literally anywhere else than you're home gym,
the fact that after i questioned your so called, world class talent, all you could come up with was a fake belt is hilarious
even if you were a blue belt equivalent or how you assert how you totally would have gotten a purple, the fact that you fail to realize that those credentials are completely unremarkable, are you seriously trying to argue that one year of ground training in straya is remarkable? High level grapplers aren't really prevalent in the land down under, the oceanic countries tend to excel in stand up martial arts more often than in submission grappling,
best strayan grapplers i can think of right now are Whittaker, he definitely has a natural talent for wrestling like GSP, especially for guys who started with a striking base, i think whittaker actually had been training wrestling in highschool though, so i guess that's more of a background than GSP, both tried to wrestle in the olympics but got shut down by the ufc,
then there's Volkanovski
and i'll also include Israel cause of his quick, slick sub attempts versus Kelvin
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Deez
06.08.20 | Ok this is the last time im gonna repeat myself on this thread you absolute weirdo.
That fact that my 'credentials' are unremarkable is actually proof I wasn't trying to 'be hard' its the internet I could easily have put a purple/brown (your belittling purple belts ffs.even a high blue is enough to help you massively on the street in a 1 on 1 )a purple is a solid midway point but our ranking system was yellow/orange I was most definitely PRE purple by a good way. There is no defined belt system outside the IBJJf (btw this is FIFTEEN YEARS AGO!). Think it'd make an easier story if I was making it up. You think I cant google 'BJJ ranking system'!?!?'remarkable training' (another made up quote) youre absolutely right . Totally unremarkable, I would have aimed much higher.( maybe I should have gone with your TEAM nOG bs that took 3 hours!) The point AGAIN was countering your 'just because i know more than you''fucking zuffa zombies' to josh. Anyone who was doing (1 class or 50 classes) bjj/mma 15 years ago will not be a casual. Fact, THAT WAS MY POINT (shall we do a 'no it wasnt' 'yes it was' for another fucking week?) the TIME not the level was the point thats why I never mentioned a belt because it wasnt the point yet you admittedly have got 'really bothered' by it (A REAL QUOTE!) So I have rolled with pro fighters,yes, I never once said that made ME world class or 'remarkable' but too right Im proud of rolling,learning and getting my arse kicked by high level guys for a few years. Damn right. Why wouldnt you? Just as you can tell someone 'I once met ...blah blah' If YOU took it differently like you take everything not how it was meant simply to argue about it defensively and make up quotations that didnt exist ffs .Thats youre own problem. And its CLEARLY a problem. I do not care if your dick is bigger than mine in the slightest.
'High level grapplers aren't really prevalent in the land down under'
Actually Bjj was actually pretty well represented in Oz even in 2004 due to their large Brazilian community. (especially Sydney) Pan American winner Rezende was training Marc hunt, You had Anthony Perosh and Elvis Sinosec who fought in the UFC. Te Huna who was a striker but was in our No gi class a few times (actually rolled with him in my 2nd EVER no gi class) and its much better now. So just because YOU only know of a few well known MMA guys today that doesnt speak for the entire countries(continent even) standards Haha your arrogance is incredible. And is exactly what Im saying with your 'Only my opinion is right' 'just because I know more than you ' BS
There are tons of high level BJJ/grapplers guys across the whole county today. Not everyones a pro fighter on TV!
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Deez
06.08.20 | ....ctd
Ill repeat THESE last 2 points AGAIN... I said the Ufc isnt shit. I didnt argue with you about the model or the direction of the company (in fact I slated it just a few comments earlier) . It wasnt even mentioned by me once to you. Not once. I just said 'its not shit'. And the years youre claiming it to be 'shit' they has some their best fighter and deepest division,talent wise, possibly ever. The exact opposite of being 'shit'. Another imaginary argument. Also Go talk to lovato about his made up yellow/orange belts that don't fit Ibbjf standards and Im sure theres more across the world. Ask one of your mates down at team nog if hes heard of them.
Now its' champs to getting tapped by blue belts on a consistent basis' stuff like that. Made up. You know you can be a white/blue AND still roll with champs right?You can do both? You cant train/drill with a WC fighter that doenst mean youre doing WC training!! You assume I was getting tapped by blues.I never said that so you put it in quotations to make it look legit when actually its a sentence in YOUR head not something I wrote. Theres no point going any further doing retarded shit like that. At least argue with someone about shit they actually say not quoting shit they didn't or telling them what THEY actually meant to say when they said something!?! and not backing that up when asked 'where did i say that?'just doing it again about something else completely different.hahah proper mental shit. Even writing that down just now is a headfuck. Proper ,proper weird behaviour. And impossible to have a debate/conversation/argument with.
I am OUT of this conversation.I cannot keep repeating myself to shit YOU make up. Weird as fuck and just super tedious now and impossible to traverse. I have enough of mongs like you on MMA forums.
Lastly (and for sure lastly) as for saying I played the' I train UFC card' ill quote you in another thread ...
'I just love it when people talk about combat sports who clearly never trained a day in their lives.'& 'if you knew anything about fighting or actually trained in it' hahah thats exactly what youre doing there. EXACTLY the same but let me guess... YOU werent playing big bollocks hard man,oh no only I was huh?? What a massive fucking Hypocrite but Anyway Im back to talking about music as this is completely pointless,fruitless and time consuming. You believe what you wanna believe mate its all good.
Later crank xxx
(Sorry about the Essays trap but all good im done!) |
TheNotrap
06.08.20 | Mojahed's new video:
http://youtu.be/WUeuXB4dH-k
Conor McGregor Retires AGAIN & Masvidal wants Release
|
Trundle
06.08.20 | ya, d00d i bet all the champs were champing at the bit to roll with you,
ya, we all know how champs invest so much time in someone who's a career white belt and only in town a cpl weeks,
saying you "rolled with multiple champions" cause some showed you how to do a technique
Is like me saying i did hard sparring with world champs when all we did was play tag, or just hitting thai pads,
seriously, what white belt brags about training and rolling with world champs on the reg and travelling the world on the reg
face it, you tried to pretend to be a world class martial artist when all you did was end up a career white belt, nice going Steven Segal,
now you're saying i'm acting tough cause i called you out on your shenanigans by doing the exact same thing you did, like you're totally missing the point that i did exactly what you did, to show you how ridiculous it is to act like a martial arts expert who has been whatching the tapes since 97, trained and rolled with multiple champions and travelled the world. you literally checked every box of a keyboard warrior troll, which is why i kept calling you one
except all you could come up with was a belt that doesn't even exist.
in all your infinite wisdom, those years of hardcore training and all your expertise, all you ever were was a career white belt,
you've been exposed bud |
Deez
06.08.20 | ExPoZED
'face it, you tried to pretend to be a world class martial artist when all you did was end up a career white belt'
'you literally checked every box of a keyboard warrior troll'
'Im the one who trained at Team Nog'
https://imgur.com/a/4iXqA hahaahah fucking hell
Id pick a yellow belt over that anyday 'bud'
'you're totally missing the point that i did exactly what you did, to show you how ridiculous it is '
Really? Yet these are both from last year hahah
' I just love it when people talk about combat sports who clearly never trained a day in their lives.'
'if you knew anything about fighting or actually trained in it..'
Keep digging weirdo. NIGHT x
|
Trundle
06.08.20 | lol, jesus christ how long did it take you to find that,
funny again, how you say that like you're not emotional
so what you're saying you'd rather brag about having a belt that doesn't exist
and when you get thoroughly called out on it you throw a tantrum, just throw randumb insults and deflect,
come to think of it, only a kid would pretend boast about his world class martial arts experience and clear expertise in all things combat sports, completely unprompted,
pretty fitting that the belt you chose to pretend you had is a kids belt |
Trundle
06.08.20 | "Also Go talk to lovato about his made up yellow/orange belts that don't fit Ibbjf standards"
lol first you learned under Liberio,
when asked if you meant Liberio, or Liborio
minutes later you changed your story to "actually it was neither"
at this point all you're proving is that you know how to use google |
TheNotrap
06.08.20 | Jesus guys, please move on ;) |
Trundle
06.08.20 | well, i wasn't able to ask either of the Nogs, but i did ask google,
there's literally not one mention of Lovato having a unique belt system at all, so one would assume he's just using the standard system,
i searched "rafael lovato bjj belt system" found nothing,
i searched "rafael lovato yellow belt".....nada
so ya, you really showed me! better steer clear of this guy |
Trundle
06.08.20 | seriously deez? you're quoting me from years ago, lurking me,
but no, you're the one on an even keel,
you started with how you rolled with champions and travelled the world.
then that turned into saying that you were just taking beginners courses from world champions, which again isn't out of the ordinary, i can't think of many beginners bragging about training at a world class gym, without them clarifying that they are in fact beginners, they definitely don't lead with "I've rolled with world champions"
again, you're just really upset that you got called out, you say things like i'm the one freaking out, when you're searching through years of my sput comments, and quoting me LiKe ThIs
hopefully now you won't try to lord over everyone with your fictitious belt that you haven't provided one concrete piece of evidence it even exists
|
TheNotrap
06.08.20 | Can anyone challenge Amanda Nunes at the moment (besides Francis Ngannou or Stipe)? |
Trundle
06.08.20 | honestly idk, I know a lot of people like Chef Chenko, but Nunes has already beat her twice, the first one was close but Amanda clearly won, i didn't see the second fight but i heard it was close. I don't think Chef has the power to deal with Nunes,
Nunes holds two belts and i can't really think of anyone in either division off the top of my head that is the clear number one contender
Sad thing is, Nunes has hinted at wanting to retire early, hopefully that was just a bargaining ploy to get that paper
If Nunes sticks around, i wouldn't be surprised to see her get a win streak like Cyborg or Megumi Fuji,
she's already the female GOAT |
Trundle
06.08.20 | so Stipe says he's coming back now,
and it looks like for some inexplicable reason they're prolly gonna do Stipe vs DC III
honestly, i was pretty turned off by DC's blatant predatory eye pokes in both Stipe fights, also this is probs DC's last fight, he actually planned to retire awhile ago but things got put on hold when the ufc tried to set up Lesnar's return, i'd rather see the division move forward,
apparently so does Ngannou, he tweeted,
"Itâs been almost a year now so stop fighting on social media and sign the contract on your desks and letâs move on " |
TheNotrap
06.08.20 | Valentina won the second fight, in my opinion, but I agree with you (and Dana), a triology makes no sense. On paper, Amanda won twice.
I think Amanda's reached a point where she became a victim of her own supremacy. There's no one capable of beating her in the 2 divisions, and that's harming the sport.
Amanda either retires, or makes super fights, for example with boxing ladies. |
TheNotrap
06.08.20 | Her divisions completely stagnated. |
Trundle
06.08.20 | ....or they give Holm another TS cuz why not? lol
also on that card, Jacare vs Chris Cammozi III : the Reckoning
and Conor vs Dennis Siver II, Conor needs another W before another title shot.
i really don't believe conor's latest retirement, he's retired three times now in the last three years |
TheNotrap
06.08.20 | Holm's a legend, but he's not on Amanda's level.
Concerning Conor, he only has two cards in hand, Nate or Masvidal. If he doesn't want to play, he'll have to wait for Gaethje or Khabib. His retirement announcement is a joke. |
Trundle
06.08.20 | holm's almost 40 now, she's getting pretty long in the tooth, she had 46 boxing / kickboxing before starting MMA.
but is she a "Legend"? not really, what's her next best win after Ronda?
she's more of a buster douglas than anything
|
TheNotrap
06.08.20 | Holm was one of the ladies who stood out when UFC opened the doors for women. That's enough to get her into the Hall of Fame. Also remember that she shouldn't have lost her belt to Germaine, who should have lost 2 points in that fight. |
TheNotrap
06.08.20 | "Cody Garbrandt shouldnât want to fight me, Iâd knock him out"
Sean OâMalley |
Trundle
06.08.20 | ya, i mean she could totally get in the HoF, i mean, guys like Matt Serra and Bisping are in there, Stephen Bonnar, hell you don't even have to be a fighter to get into the ufc hall of fame,
the ufc hall of fame is as meaningful as the totally non-partisan totally objective rankings on ufc.com |
TheNotrap
06.09.20 | It's sugar time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEcbIrITy3c |
Trundle
06.09.20 | tbh, i don't really get the O'malley hype,
i started hearing about his hype, from the DWCS, but the first fight i saw was the Soukamanth fight, he won the first two rounds handily, then broke his foot, Souk showed his world class fight iq by taking Sean down after he broke his foot, when he had like 4 mins left to work with a guy who could barely stand.
Also, even though the dude is on the Auschwitz Diet, he popped for SARMS twice, high-end shit, the good stuff, muscle building n sich. suspended for 2 years. i've never been much of a fan of big weight cutters, he's nearly the tallest BW Ever in the ufc, i think George Roop was 6'1
ya he looked good against Wineland, but Wineland is 1-3 in the last four years, and i think that was Wineland's last fight.
Pretty sure, almost all the hype comes from the fact that he lit up a joint on air one time while watching an event in the crowd. which i guess could be cool if it wasn't in like 2019 in a state where weed is legal.
his resume reads like your avg Bellator prospect, one win against a fighter with a notable name, a 35 year old journeyman at the end of his career,
if the guys in the UFC that means he's a legit monster, but if he's in bellator, he's a can crusher |
TheNotrap
06.11.20 | UFC 251 Main Event:
170 lbs.: UFC Welterweight Champion Kamaru Usman vs. Gilbert Burns
Main Card:
145 lbs.: UFC Featherweight Champion Alexander Volkanovski vs. Max Holloway
135 lbs.: Jose Aldo vs. Petr Yan for vacant bantamweight title
115 lbs.: Jessica Andrade vs. Rose Namajunas
Awesome card. |
Colton
06.11.20 | I donât wanna see Holloway fight Volkanovski again right now. I like Holloway too much. I just donât see a path to victory for him given how decisive the first fight was. Volkanovski outclassed him everywhere. |
TheNotrap
06.11.20 | Agreed. Volkanovski is favorite, but hey Holloway is badass and a great champ.
But man, that main event is fire! and it's great to see Rose back. |
Colton
06.11.20 | Yeah great main event. I think people are overrating Burns a bit right now and Usman will win a decision, but good fight. And the first Namajunas vs Andrade fight was a banger. |
TheNotrap
06.11.20 | Really? Burns butchered Woodley...I think the Brazilian is the real thing. Andrade's massive takedown was pure luck, Rose was winning the fight. |
Josh D.
06.11.20 | disappointed that Usman's next defense is against Burns, only because all the name recognition above Burns in the division. But Jorge is chasing more money, I hope Colby falls into a branch shredder, not sure the deal with Leon (unless it's still travel), and I think Tyron has been surpassed at his age.
Should make a good fight though. I like all those others for sure too. |
TheNotrap
06.11.20 | "Jorge is chasing more money"
Masvidal needs to stop talking and start fighting |
Colton
06.11.20 | I tend to side with fighters when they ask for more money given how underpaid they are in general. UFC gives fighters a smaller share of revenue than any other sports organization. So I can't blame Jorge. Also, Usman annihilates Jorge, so he would be dumb to not at least get paid well for it.
But if I were him I would just rematch Nate. Easy win, easy money. |
Josh D.
06.11.20 | I wasnât giving an opinion in that post, but I agree about fighters getting more.
Also, side note, Jorge praises Trump from time to time. So I find it funny that a Trump-praising Cuban wants more of the value derived from his labor. Jorge, Iâve something to tell you. |
Colton
06.11.20 | I was referring to TheNotrap's comment. And I haven't heard Jorge mention Trump. That's funny since he supposedly hates Colby so much. |
dbizzles
06.11.20 | How guys don't put in Championship Clauses or re-negotiation clauses in their contracts is so dumb. I guess maybe the UFC prevents a lot of that, but I feel like a lot of this fighter pay stuff is on the fighters and their management. Jorge just signed an 8 fight deal. Very recently. So why is he asking for more money now? Does he deserve it? Probably, when you look at the whole picture- all of them do. But he had a chance to negotiate and that's a wrap.
Fight the champ- you're not getting more money anywhere else- not with Conor, not with Nate, UNLESS there is something in you're contract about PPV points. Who knows. |
Colton
06.11.20 | I'm pretty sure he signed that contract after his whole feud with the UFC over pay started. They just couldn't come to terms for the Usman fight so Dana gave it to Burns. And I'm pretty sure they can't have re-negotiation clauses in their contract. Might be wrong though.
As for the money thing though, Jorge doesn't make more money fighting Usman than he does fighting Nate, and especially not fighting McGregor. He probably makes 5-10 times more money to fight Conor than he does to fight Usman. |
Colton
06.11.20 | And on top of that, Conor and Nate are way better stylistic matchups for him than Usman is |
TheNotrap
06.11.20 | Masvidal has little chance with Usman. The only men at the moment capable of beating Usman, in my opinion, are Colby and Burns.
Colby would cut Masvidal into little pieces. |
Josh D.
06.11.20 | I wouldnât go that far |
TheNotrap
06.11.20 | Do you think Masvidal has a chance with Colby? |
Josh D.
06.11.20 | I think he has a chance against anyone. If Usman can stand and trade with him for 24 minutes, Masvidal can. |
TheNotrap
06.11.20 | I donât know...Colby is a stronger man. Colby and Usman are the division motherfuckers |
Colton
06.11.20 | Colby and Usman only stood with each other because theyâre both such accomplished wrestlers that they decided they would just strike instead rather than contest the wrestling. Colby wouldnât stand with Masvidal though, he would ragdoll him for 25 minutes while beating him softly. Thereâs actually old videos online of Colby ragdolling Masvidal in training. |
TheNotrap
06.11.20 | I hear you. I just think three pieces and a soda will not work with Colby or Usman. |
Josh D.
06.11.20 | Old videos....
Iâm aware of why they stood and traded, but I donât see your scenario happening. |
Josh D.
06.11.20 | Mainly because Masvidal has pretty good takedown defense, he subbed Chiesa and Till couldnât keep him down. |
TheNotrap
06.11.20 | Colby vs Masvidal? |
Josh D.
06.11.20 | Anything can happen in a fight, but Iâm not putting money down on Jorge getting ragdolled. |
Colton
06.11.20 | Masvidal has good takedown defence, but Colby doesnât even have to take him down. He could push him up against the fence and just continually hit him with his volume striking. I donât think Usman could handle his pressure. |
Josh D.
06.11.20 | Usman did the same stuff to RDA and Tyron, he could absolutely handle Colby against the cage. Till didnât try grappling on the cage, but he had Jorge backed up a lot and came up empty. |
TheNotrap
06.11.20 | Burns will grab the belt. Wanna bet? |
Trundle
06.11.20 | i'm sorry but with a career, 48 MMA fights, in top promotions from pretty much the beginning, even was on one of Kimbo Slice's street fight tapes when he was like 18, giving up like 30lbs, and he still beat the guy. Jorge, after the whole Till fight / Edwards incident created a wave of hype to attract the casual fans that had pretty much disappeared after the Conor / Khabib fight. Most pro sports orgs split revenue with their fighters 50/50, the ufc gives anywhere between 15 and 20%, hell even Bellator pays out 45%,
at what point do you stop supporting the billion dollar company and start supporting the guys getting their faces smashed in for peanuts? It's not like i'm not a fan of burns but think about it, First they make up a fake Belt for Mas, cuz most champs were injured / avoiding fights, now he's worthless? Mas was clearly the next in line, and even though I don't think he has the best chance to beat Usman, remember that Jorge was able to go the distance with Maia, so who knows, right? I didn't really think he'd beat Askren either |
TheNotrap
06.11.20 | DAMN Trundle!!!!!! Are you gonna make us read that biblical testimony? |
Colton
06.11.20 | Heâs right though. And TheNotrap if you really think Burns will win you should bet on a betting site, youâll make more than betting with me. |
Trundle
06.11.20 | idk, support Dana, the Don King of MMA, or support the fighters?
|
TheNotrap
06.11.20 | When you talk little Trundle, it all makes sense. I'm on Dana's corner, sorry mate. |
Trundle
06.11.20 | why is that? |
80timesthe80
06.11.20 | Someone convince me that eye vs calvillo isnt the worst main event ever conceived. |
Trundle
06.11.20 | 'member when Dana was all, "Boxing is awful, there's only like two good fights on a card, and the rest is shit, the UFC will NEVER do that!" I member |
Josh D.
06.11.20 | Dana is a shit person, but if you ask why I watch the UFC, you might as well ask why I watch the NFL over the CFL, or a sport over its farm system: talent. Itâs just a better product as a consumer.
I once watched a Bellator PPV and three of the fights consisted of a fighter dropping to the canvas just trying to ankle lock the opponent. I thought I was hallucinating. |
Josh D.
06.11.20 | Like Iâm not gonna watch all these welterweights we just discussed? Valentina and Nunes fights? Israel and Khabib fights? |
Colton
06.11.20 | lmao why the fuck would anyone choose to be in "Dana's corner" regarding fighter pay
and yeah Josh Bellator is pretty trash 96% of the time |
Trundle
06.11.20 | "Like Iâm not gonna watch all these welterweights we just discussed? Valentina and Nunes fights? Israel and Khabib fights? "
wut?
if it's about talent, the ufc certainly doesn't own everyone, I think Douglas Lima could easily be ufc WW champ, |
Trundle
06.11.20 | CM Punk is obvs better than any Bellator "fighter" cuz the ufc doesn't do gimmicks |
Colton
06.11.20 | Bellator has Douglas Lima and Michael Chandler, that's pretty much it for top tier talent |
Trundle
06.11.20 | Ya, Bader was only top 5 in the ufc lhw div before he left, must suck now, just look at his record
Did anyone see Israel vs Kelvin? That fight totally proves that Mousasi has no chance right? Cuz Kelvin has waaaaaaaaay better striking than Moose,
Vadim Nemkov, would be top 5 lhw,
Ufc HW is scraping the bottom of the barrel at this point, Minakov would be a huge addition, they may even want Kongo back, maybe Tyrell Fortune as a prospect,
Lima, Koreshkov, Ruth, Gracie, Larkin,
also the pitbull bros,
and to speak to the parity between MMA orgs, anyone catch Eddie Alvarez, Mighty Mouse and Sage's debut fights in ONE FC? |
TheNotrap
06.11.20 | Wow
Lord, the casual, has landed |
TheNotrap
06.11.20 | "lmao why the fuck would anyone choose to be in "Dana's corner" regarding fighter pay"
I own a small business mate. Life is hard. |
Trundle
06.11.20 | ya, so when one of your employees at a small business like the UFC brings in hundreds of millions, they only deserve 500k in guaranteed pay?,
do you still believe in the mythical "backroom bonuses" that they used to pretend that everyone got |
Colton
06.11.20 | Backroom bonuses do happen but theyâre rare |
Trundle
06.11.20 | haven't happened at least since the ESPN deal, maybe even since Reebok, can't remember for sure
before the Reebok deal, mid tier fighters could make six figures, in sponsors
now the highest you get is like 25k or something if you have over 20 fights in ufc, champs get 40k and thats the limit
Can't imagine that the ufc would take so much income away from fighters, that they didn't even have to pay, just to make it up in the backroom to avoid paperwork / taxes |
Colton
06.11.20 | It's hard to say if they've happened since ESPN, a lot of fighters don't wanna go public with it. But many have. I do agree though that the Reebok deal was absolute robbery. |
Trundle
06.11.20 | check this, Cole, the op comes from a guy who apparently was friends / in touch with Dave Meltzer, the guy who used give us the numbers for ppv buys each card got. Frankie would always seen as sort of an authority on the financial aspects of the UFC and other MMA orgs
unfortunately, the op died a year later or so. but this info is coming straight from Faber on Ariel's MMA show, (I don't watch MMA shows so I can't give you an episode #)
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/mmahour-faber-confirms-a-lot-of-bonuses-are-no-longer.3548617/ |
TheNotrap
06.11.20 | Bro, too deep. Can we talk about the main card? |
Colton
06.11.20 | That's interesting, but he would still have no way of knowing when fighters get secret bonuses if the fighters don't state it publicly. I don't think they're common, but they happen from time to time.
And yeah Notrap, I'm hyped for the main event. Eye vs Calvillo is gonna be an absolute banger. |
TheNotrap
06.11.20 | Everyone is belittling Burns. I say HE's THE NEW CHAMP!!!!! |
Colton
06.11.20 | Usman will decision him 49-46 |
Trundle
06.11.20 | I'll be cheering for Burns. I think he has a better chance to beat Usman than Colby did |
Colton
06.11.20 | Probably. He's well rounded and has tons of momentum right now. We'll see |
TheNotrap
06.11.20 | Burns has the eye of the tiger. Super, massive cliché, but it's true. |
Colton
06.11.20 | Love how Pots talks shit to me on here but had nothing to say when I shut him down on the RTJ thread (after he again started talking shit for no reason) |
TheNotrap
06.11.20 | Pots know as much MMA as I do Hungarian cuisine. |
Colton
06.11.20 | Pots doesn't know much of anything from what I've gathered |
dbizzles
06.11.20 | 'I'm pretty sure he signed that contract after his whole feud with the UFC over pay started. They just couldn't come to terms for the Usman fight so Dana gave it to Burns.'
I'm pretty sure it was before the Nate Fight. What terms would they need to come to for his 2nd fight in an 8 fight contract? Sounds like Masvidal needs to come to terms with what he agreed on.
'As for the money thing though, Jorge doesn't make more money fighting Usman than he does fighting Nate, and especially not fighting McGregor. He probably makes 5-10 times more money to fight Conor than he does to fight Usman.'
As far as I know, he doesn't make any more money for any reason until his contract is up, barring performance bonuses and discretionary bonus, none of which are guaranteed. I could also be wrong though. Just seems like someone let him in on how much the UFC makes vs what the fighters make and now he's trying to bump his pay. |
dbizzles
06.11.20 | Need to see these fucking contracts. |
Colton
06.11.20 | If he fights McGregor he's obviously gonna get more than he does to fight Usman. I know Dana is a scumbag but he's not gonna lock Jorge into fighting Conor for like 250k because of a contract. He would be able to negotiate there. |
TheNotrap
06.12.20 | Masvidal, like a chicken, ran away from Usman. Conor will fight Justin, because Justin WILL SMASH Khabib. |
Colton
06.12.20 | Khabib will destroy Gaethje |
dbizzles
06.12.20 | Why would Jorge get more? They didnât bump Cowboy, right? He got 200K lmao. |
Trundle
06.12.20 | ya cuz conor totally doesn't renegotiate his contract before a fight |
Trundle
06.12.20 | didn't every "Esssential worker" get an increase in pay, albeit, temporary
if ya haven't heard, apparently, WWE wrestlers and UFC fighters are essential,
who would think a fighter who will most likely exchange bodily fluids with his opponent for said job during a pandemic would want a pay bump? |
dbizzles
06.12.20 | 'ya cuz conor totally doesn't renegotiate his contract before a fight '
Conor has more leverage than any MMA fighter on the planet. Jorge is not Conor.
'didn't every "Esssential worker" get an increase in pay, albeit, temporary'
No, lmao. |
Trundle
06.12.20 | ^ oh, well they did where i live, 2 bucks an hour pay bump for any grocery workers all the way to a 5-7 dollar increase for hospital staff |
Trundle
06.13.20 | UFC Fighter pay:
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/bloody-elbow-wrote-an-article-on-fighters-pay-median-avg-1250-mean-avg-20-556-mode-1000.4114391/,
"Bloody Elbow wrote an article on fighters pay: Median avg: $1250; mean avg: $20,556; mode: $1000" |
TheNotrap
06.13.20 | Jessica Eye misses weight:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nFdKOcM8ZFs
I'll probably just take a peek ar the main event. |
Josh D.
06.14.20 | the first three fights of the night didn't last a full minute |
TheNotrap
06.14.20 | I'll try to see the main event when I get home. |
TheNotrap
06.14.20 | Calvillo had a solid victory. Good first three rounds. |
Josh D.
06.14.20 | I'm just gonna be impatient for 251, crazy card. |
TheNotrap
06.14.20 | Yeah. ROSE IS BACK!!! |
Trundle
06.14.20 | pretty solid fight night card coming up this weekend too, all things considered, |
TheNotrap
06.14.20 | Yeah Blaydes vs. Volkov should be a nice fight. I'm interested to see Emmett too. |
TheNotrap
06.16.20 | Dana & Conor steals Justin belt to rematch Khabib
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFghl2tHQa8 |
Colton
06.21.20 | Riveting main event tonight eh |
TheNotrap
06.21.20 | Main event was kinda ZZZzzz but the Emmett fight was epic. Tecia Torres also had a great win. |
Colton
06.21.20 | Yeah Tecia was going wild in there. Love to see a striker fight off a wrestlerâs takedowns like that |
TheNotrap
06.28.20 | Poirier vs. Hooker...amazing fight đ |
Colton
06.28.20 | That shit was absolutely insane... wow. Easily one of the best fights ever |
TheNotrap
06.28.20 | Most definitely |
TheNotrap
06.28.20 | Poirier threw over 300 strikes. INSANE |
Colton
06.28.20 | Yeah some of the combos both guys threw in the second round were wild. It was like a video game or something |
Trundle
06.28.20 | and didn't Poirer / Holloway break the record for most significant strikes in a fight?
i think that's what i remember hearing |
Colton
06.28.20 | Holloway vs Ortega has that record, Holloway vs Poirier is number 2 |
Trundle
06.28.20 | ah, that makes sense, ortega got boxed up in that fight,
also, after hearing that he threw shots at Chan Sung Jung's twitter manager,
mind you he specifically chose to attack him when the KZ went to have a piss,
I think Ortega is due for another ass whooping |
Colton
06.28.20 | Yeah that was the dumbest shit ever, dude is in a kpop band or something apparently. Didnât even talk shit about Ortega either |
Trundle
06.28.20 | ya, he's basically just the guy's friend who does his twitter posts cuz he's better at social media / speaking english.
I don't understand how ortega thought that sucker punching this guy was a good idea. |
Colton
06.28.20 | Iâm guessing itâs the brain damage from Holloway lol |
Trundle
06.28.20 | on a side note, everyone should check out KZ's vid exposing a few of the easy ways you can cheat the scale at the weigh ins, |
TheNotrap
06.29.20 | I'm revisiting Poirier vs. Hooker. Easily one of the best fights I've ever seen. Epic. |
Josh D.
06.29.20 | pretty insane...now it's a weekend off, then the big one |
Trundle
06.30.20 | the Allen / Daukaus fight was also really good.
if it wasnt for the main event, they would have gotten FOTN |
Colton
06.30.20 | The fact that one judge scored that one 30-27 Allen had me worried Dustin would get robbed in the main event, thank god shitty judging didnât ruin one of the craziest fights ever |
TheNotrap
06.30.20 | At the end of the day, Mike's girlfriend had as much, if not more, exposure than Poirier or Hooker. It was a smart business move by Mike, intentional or not. |
Colton
06.30.20 | Yeah and he doesnât have to pay her anything
Honestly having a hot girl tell you youâre doing great in between rounds is probably more motivating than a bunch of dudes screaming instructions at you |
TheNotrap
06.30.20 | I can agree with that. Hottie & 10% savings |
Josh D.
07.04.20 | Usman fight cancelled : ( |
TheNotrap
07.04.20 | It sucks, I had high hopes for Burns. This is the second time a Brazilian fighter has been caught with covid. Were they all asymptomatic? Nobody noticed they had symptoms? Something stinks. |
Colton
07.04.20 | It's possible that a healthy young athlete had no symptoms. I hope they'll get someone to fill in for him but honestly they're probably just book the fight for 252. |
Colton
07.04.20 | *probably gonna |
TheNotrap
07.04.20 | Yeah they will postpone the fight. Colby or Masvidal needed a full camp to face Usman. |
Colton
07.04.20 | Masvidal said he'll take it on short notice, but I imagine he's gonna want more money than they'll be willing to give him. |
TheNotrap
07.04.20 | It's just talk, I doubt he'd take it. Usman is a big man, Masvidal needed at least three weeks of training. |
Colton
07.05.20 | Apparently itâs actually happening. Pretty hype honestly |
Josh D.
07.05.20 | Would've like d a proper cycle of this being the fight this whole time, but as long as it happens, whatever. It was the fight to make. |
Colton
07.05.20 | It's perfect for Jorge. He gets paid a ton of money for stepping in on short notice, and if he loses, all his fans will excuse it by saying he didn't have enough time to prepare. |
TheNotrap
07.06.20 | Diving into this fight with Usman at such short notice is insane. đ Hyped |
TheNotrap
07.09.20 | Can't wait for Saturday. MASSIVE card |
Colton
07.09.20 | I'm hyped. Even without Mas vs Usman it would have been a banger. Super worried for my boy Max though. |
TheNotrap
07.09.20 | I think Volkanovski is favorite. Have you seen Embedded: Vlog Series? Volka's got that eye of the tiger. That fight's gonna be awesome. |
Colton
07.09.20 | Yeah Max is a 2.6 to 1 underdog. I'm gonna bet on Volk but I'll be happy if I lose that bet lol |
TheNotrap
07.09.20 | And what about Usman vs. Masvidal? To take on a fight as short notice with a beast as Usman, it's pure madness! |
Colton
07.09.20 | Almost the same, Jorge is 2.55 to 1. Definitely crazy that he took it on short notice, but people on reddit pointed out that he was training prior to Burns being given the fight. So he's probably at least somewhat prepared |
TheNotrap
07.09.20 | Yeah, I believe he had some kind of a camp...but man, Usman is badass |
TheNotrap
07.09.20 | And I really want Rose to win, to see Zhang vs. Rose at the end of the year. |
Colton
07.09.20 | I think she will, she was piecing Andrade up in the first round of their first fight. Can't see another slam KO happening, and Rose is on a whole different level to her in terms of striking |
TheNotrap
07.09.20 | Agreed. Rose's first round with Andrade was almost perfect. |
Josh D.
07.10.20 | Jorge says he wasn't training as if it was camp, but he was still training like fighters do to stay ready. And he had one opponent in mind. So Usman should be in better shape, but he also trained for a very different fighter. So many interesting things about this fight. |
Colton
07.10.20 | That's good that he was at least training in some capacity. But Usman already probably has better cardio, plus he's been in a full camp for longer. If Masvidal can't finish it fast I think Usman definitely takes it. |
TheNotrap
07.10.20 | Masvidal made weight đ |
Josh D.
07.11.20 | something else I just thought about, he had to cut 20 pounds in 6 days, but he also gets an extra day of rest since they're in Abu Dahbi and fighting on North American time. So they'll be going to sleep in a few hours for a second since weigh-in when normally they fight the next day. |
TheNotrap
07.11.20 | Yeah, the body has to adapt to another routine, but from what I understand, the fighters are taking it well, except for the intense heat.
I'm so ready...hey are we diving into another live chat? |
Colton
07.11.20 | I'm hyped |
Josh D.
07.11.20 | I need to start beer at lunch to take a nap, cuz if I drink at fight time, I won't make it. I HATTTTEE that these events go til midnight for me. Who tf wants to punch and get punched at midnight. |
Colton
07.11.20 | Itâs actually even later for the fighters, Abu Dhabi is 8 hours ahead of Eastern time |
Josh D.
07.11.20 | they'll be fighting at like 8am |
TheNotrap
07.11.20 | The main card starts around 3am in my time zone..., I can only hold on until 5am (probably the time of the main event) if I have my Cardhu nearby |
Josh D.
07.11.20 | half an hour, clowns. For the impending violence, I offer one of my newest songs as a distant knell: https://spieglass.bandcamp.com/track/distant-knell |
TheNotrap
07.11.20 | Are you scrolling this right? It's taking me five minutes to get to the last comment. |
TheNotrap
07.25.20 | Robert Whittaker vs. Darren Till gonna be fireworks. I got Whittaker by TKO. |
ReefaJones
07.25.20 | my picks:
https://www.tapology.com/ue/69764-1953768.png |
TheNotrap
07.25.20 | Yeah I also have Gustafsson by decision. Let's see how he does with bigger guys. Werdum may be an old-timer, but he's still dangerous, especially on the ground. |
ReefaJones
07.25.20 | no doubt. I only picked Gustaffson because Werdum looked absolutely terrible in his last fight. |
Colton
07.25.20 | Till hasnât proven himself nearly enough for me to think he has much for Whittaker. I see a fairly one sided decision win for Whittaker. |
ReefaJones
07.25.20 | Till presents many of the same problems to Whittaker that Wonderboy and Adesanya did. He's a very good, technical striker and Whittaker has a bad record against those types. I think Whittaker has a chance to bum rush Till and catch him but other than that I'm leaning towards Till by knockout |
Colton
07.25.20 | Till is a good, technical striker but has nowhere near the diversity of strikes Izzy and Wonderman have. He even said in an interview this week âIâm just a left handâ lol. Heâs exaggerating obviously but still. |
ReefaJones
07.25.20 | "but has nowhere near the diversity of strikes Izzy and Wonderman have"
Yet he beat Wonderboy in a striking match. |
Colton
07.25.20 | That fight was a straight up robbery man. Wonderboy won that at least 48-47, and 49-46 imo. If you go on mmadecisions.com it shows almost all mma media members scored it for Wonderboy. |
Colton
07.25.20 | And interestingly, Thompson beat Whittaker. |
ReefaJones
07.25.20 | It was a super close fight not a robbery. I scored it for Wonderboy too but that fight disproves your claim that Till's striking is nowhere near Wonderboy's |
Colton
07.25.20 | It doesnât disprove that claim because neither guy used their striking to their full potential, it was a very slow paced fight with a remarkably low amount of strikes thrown. Watch Thompsonâs recent performances to see his level of striking. |
ReefaJones
07.25.20 | You don't know what you are talking about |
Colton
07.25.20 | Literally anyone that watches mma will tell you Stephen Thompson is a better striker than Darren Till lmao |
ReefaJones
07.25.20 | ok kiddo. I've been watching this sport when you was still sucking on your mommas teat. Next |
Colton
07.25.20 | And yet you still don't know shit about it lol |
ReefaJones
07.25.20 | cute |
TheNotrap
07.25.20 | That Evloev dude is legit. Good win |
ReefaJones
07.25.20 | Has a future in the division for sure |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.26.20 | be you'd be competing too if only there was a featherweight manlette class |
TheNotrap
07.26.20 | Damn Chimaev is badass |
Colton
07.26.20 | Yeah I feel like they're gonna let him skip the line a bit and give him a ranked fighter soon |
ReefaJones
07.26.20 | let's see him against stronger competition first. That was a total mismatch |
TheNotrap
07.26.20 | Hahah he said he was going to smash all guys in the division.
Khabib 2.0 |
Colton
07.26.20 | Remember Tatiana Suarez? |
TheNotrap
07.26.20 | I'm afraid not |
Colton
07.26.20 | she looked a lot like Chimaev in her fights, everyone thought she would be champ but then she kinda just vanished
|
Josh D.
07.26.20 | guess I'm going Gustaffson and Whittaker |
Josh D.
07.26.20 | welp...thought Alex would be light enough on his feet to avoid takedowns |
TheNotrap
07.26.20 | Werdum still a beast on the ground |
Colton
07.26.20 | RIP to my parlay |
Colton
07.26.20 | Till bout to get pieced up |
TheNotrap
07.26.20 | Good fight. Whittaker deserved it |
Colton
07.26.20 | Yeah pretty close fight, I agreed with the judges, 48-47 Whittaker. Till still looked good though having a fight that close at MW with the former champ. |
TheNotrap
07.26.20 | I also agree the judges. Till did a great fight and has a solid fanbase, so when he comes back from injury he will stay close to the title fight. I believe Whittaker fights the winner of Adesanya vs. Costa and Till the loser. A fight with Hermansson or Cannonier also makes sense.
|
TheNotrap
07.28.20 | Khabib vs Gaethje for October 24th đ
EPIC |
Josh D.
07.28.20 | ugh, so far away...a lot of time for something fucked up to happen |
TheNotrap
07.28.20 | I hope Tony Ferguson's curse doesn't pass into this fight. |
Colton
07.28.20 | Hype. I think Khabib might beat Gaethje and then retire. |
TheNotrap
07.28.20 | I'm in underdog's corner |
dbizzles
07.28.20 | Very interested in the matchup. Gaethje's skillset should be a challenge, but I expect Khabib to rise to it and put him down. Khabib 3rd or 4th rd TKO. |
Colton
07.28.20 | I don't think Gaethje poses any threats to Khabib that he hasn't already faced in Poirier or McGregor honestly |
TheNotrap
07.28.20 | Gaethje's leg game is far superior and he also has a wrestling background. |
Colton
07.28.20 | He has a wrestling background that he never uses and hasn't effectively utilized at all in his UFC career |
TheNotrap
07.28.20 | True, like Romero, but it can make a difference in the fight. |
Colton
07.28.20 | Yeah true, it definitely could. But I see some people praise him as this mythical grappler with flawless takedown defence which we really have no reason to think right now, especially against the best MMA grappler of all time in Khabib |
TheNotrap
07.28.20 | Khabib is favorite, no doubt, yet Justin has more chances than many people think |
Colton
07.28.20 | Fair enough, it doesn't have that "I have no idea who's gonna win" feeling that other Khabib fights like the McGregor fight had though. That's why I'm hyped for Cormier vs Stipe 3, that one's a real toss up |
TheNotrap
07.28.20 | It's gonna be fireworks. Two of the best heavyweights of all time |
TheNotrap
07.28.20 | I'm also hyped for Zhang vs Rose, I hope it happens later this year |
Wructy
07.28.20 | Justin says he thinks the key to beating Khabib is folkstyle wrestling. I havenât seen him in any grappling exchanges long enough to be able to think he can pull it off against Khabib but itâd be super interesting to see if he tries it. Anybody got any pics for this upcoming Saturday? |
Josh D.
07.28.20 | this weekend is flying under the radar, I think. A lot of good names on the card. |
Colton
07.29.20 | Solid card for sure, Shahbazyan is looking insane lately and Luque and Vannata are always fun |
TheNotrap
07.29.20 | Yeah, I'm looking forward to see how Shahbazyan does |
TheNotrap
07.29.20 | Khabib wants to fight GSP after Justin (early 2021).
Clash of titans đ, even if GSP is like 75 years old |
Josh D.
07.29.20 | kinda tired of guys retiring, unretiring, on and on |
Colton
07.29.20 | It was hilarious how GSP just completely fucked the middleweight division and now he's trying to do it to the lightweight division and Dana's just like "fine, whatever" |
TheNotrap
07.29.20 | Check this out: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iQjlb7L5lcQ&t=1s
Thumbnail clearly shows who's ESPN man. Disgusting. Miocic won't have an easy task ahead. |
Colton
07.29.20 | lmao DC lookin like an actual bulldog and Stipe lookin like a suburban dad |
TheNotrap
07.29.20 | The only way Miocic wins the fight is by knockout, if Herb's not in the octagon |
Colton
08.16.20 | ^ comments that aged badly lol |
TheNotrap
08.16.20 | Hahah yeah. I missed the fight, I'm gonna try to find a full fight stream this week. Looks like Sugar show got his ass kicked... I wanna see that fight, too. |
Josh D.
08.16.20 | I fell asleep during the first fight of the main card after a rough day and woke up during the third round of the main event. So I quickly went to YouTube to find uploads of the other fights to see how they ended before getting taken down.
OâMalley didnât really get his ass kicked, he injured his leg and fell, and Vera jumped on him and threw elbows until the fight was stopped. |
TheNotrap
08.16.20 | Looks like the lad was unlucky then. It's a shame, I kind of liked the hype around him. |
Colton
08.16.20 | He looked great before the injury too, really shitty situation. Bet $20 on Vera though at 3.4 to 1 odds so I'm not too mad. |
TheNotrap
08.16.20 | Hahah nice |
TheNotrap
08.16.20 | I'm very happy for Miocic, he has reached legendary status. He should probably retire now |
Colton
08.16.20 | Imagine he just gets flatlined by Ngannou in his next fight |
TheNotrap
08.16.20 | I don't think he should take that risk. He should retire when he's on top, with two wins over DC and one against Ngannou. It's Ngannou's time now. |
TheNotrap
08.17.20 | Finally saw Stipe vs. DC. Boring fight, clean victory for Stipe. DC tasted his own medicine. |
Josh D.
08.17.20 | seems weird to say he should retire when he's the best heavyweight in UFC history still at the top of his game. Other than the DC loss, he's on a run of beating him twice after Ngannou, JDS, Overeem, Werdum, Arlovski, and Hunt. |
Colton
08.17.20 | Yeah, beaten everyone he's ever fought except Struve, who we all know he would beat today.
and notrap it may have been more boring cause you knew the result, it was a great fight live, watched with some casual fans and they enjoyed it |
Josh D.
08.17.20 | Besides, an Ngannou rematch is perfect right now. It's been a while since the first fight and Francis has been crushing people since. Blaydes could be due for a shot with another win, Derrick Lewis as well. Jarizinho's only loss is to Ngannou. Still some competition for him. |
dbizzles
08.17.20 | Thought DC v Stipe was a great fight. Don't think Stipe needs to retire at all. He should have a few more left in him and losses after all that he's already accomplished wouldn't really tarnish anything imo. |
Colton
08.17.20 | Plus this third fight with DC actually did really well numbers wise and got his name out there a bit, he'll probably get paid a bit more than he used to now, especially if he rematches Ngannou. |
Trundle
08.17.20 | how was the JDS vs Rozenstruik fight? worth a watch?
I keep forgetting to check when the next event is on |
dbizzles
08.17.20 | Worth watching, yeah. Pretty much exactly what I expected to happen :-| but, that's all I'll say.
|
Colton
08.17.20 | they're almost every Saturday Trundle
and yeah it was a good fight, unless you like JDS |
ReefaJones
08.17.20 | Stipe vs DC was an amazing 5 round war. You'd have to be smoking crack to think otherwise. I think DC would have won if he didn't let Stipe push him against the cage in the later rounds to stall. He was landing the harder shots on Stipe the whole fight except when he got caught in round 2 I believe. Doesn't look too good be pressed flat against the cage half the time though. Shame about that eye poke too. Still, DC will go down as one of the goats |
Colton
08.17.20 | I don't think Stipe pressing DC on the cage won him the fight, he was also busier and got the better of the striking in the fifth round. Pretty sure two judges already had him up 3-1 at that point too. Being pressed against the cage actually doesn't mean anything in terms of scoring unless striking is completely even. |
ReefaJones
08.17.20 | then I don't know what you were watching. DC was catching Stipe with overhands all night. Every other fighter would have probably gotten ko'd 10 times in that fight. Stipe just has an iron chin. Stipe might have outlanded DC but he didn't get as many clean punches through as DC did. |
ReefaJones
08.17.20 | And yes, getting pressed against the cage half of the round doesn't look good in the judges eyes. Fights have been won doing nothing BUT pressing the opponent against the cage throwing pitter patter strikes |
Colton
08.17.20 | I would disagree, he seemed to pretty much match DC's power and actually did more damage, with the knockdown and near finish in the second. Plus he mixed it up really well to the body, those body shots were nasty. |
Trundle
08.17.20 | ahh, just had a stretch in the hospital, missed a couple fight nights in there, then i saw the last bellator card and then the Lewis vs Olenik fight night,
not used to every weekend fights, it's harder to prioritize when you have so many hockey games happening every day |
ReefaJones
08.17.20 | What I find more amusing is all the Stipe fans that were calling DC a dirty eye poker are now excusing one of the worst eye pokes of all time lmao. They also never mention how Stipe poked DC in the eye in their first fight too. |
Colton
08.17.20 | yeah that's understandable. Can always log into Fight Pass and catch up though. Oh and if you haven't seen Dan Hooker vs Dustin Poirier yet, watch it. Seriously, that fight was fuckin nuts |
Trundle
08.17.20 | i got rid of fight pass like a year ago, i had it for years, but it didn't seem worth it for a while there, i'm planning on re-subscribing in the coming days/months cause i defs have missed a few good ones this year,
plus the main reason is to watch every PRIDE fight for the umpteenth time |
Colton
08.17.20 | @Reefa it really highlights the issue with the design of the gloves, would be so easy for the UFC to fix it |
Trundle
08.17.20 | ya i saw Poirer vs Hooker, that was a great one, both guys seem to really bring it these days |
Colton
08.17.20 | Trundle it's worth the 9.99 just to watch Hooker vs Poirier |
Colton
08.17.20 | oh you've seen it okay |
Trundle
08.17.20 | in canada it's more like 15.99 or 20 i cant remember, |
Colton
08.17.20 | huh? I'm Canadian and it's $9.99 for me |
Trundle
08.17.20 | weird, maybe they have a discounted price now? idk,
i know it cost more than netflix |
dbizzles
08.17.20 | I need to re-sub at some point. I'm always trying to watch old fights on yourube and they a) look like shit or b) don't exist.
I cancelled when ESPN+ came around, but I have been missing it. I don't like having another fucking paywall for UFC (even if they own the rights to lots of other libraries/events.) Would be nice if the could just bundle it up. Fight Pass presented by EPSN+ would do just fine :) |
Colton
08.17.20 | not sure Trundle, I signed up a while ago though and it's still 9.99 for me
and yeah dbizzles, here in Canada we don't have ESPN+ so it makes Fight Pass more worth it I think. but the shitty thing is they don't stream the prelims on Fight Pass here, only the early prelims. So the only legal way to watch a ppv is you watch the early prelims on Fight Pass, prelims on tv, and then order the ppv. Pretty convoluted. |
Trundle
08.17.20 | remember the Fox/ FX/ Fuel TV days?
3 channels to watch one event,
now that's what you call streamlined entertainment |
TheNotrap
08.17.20 | "Hooker vs Dustin Poirier yet, watch it. Seriously, that fight was fuckin nuts"
Easily one of the best fights I've ever seen. Poirier is a legend without a crown. |
MillionDead
08.17.20 | Man, Iâve fallen out of fights for a while besides peeping Lerdsilaâs highlights occasionally. Whoâs current? Whatâs most pressing for me to look at? |
TheNotrap
08.17.20 | It's all about Khabib vs. Gaethje. The underdog will be the first to SMASH Khabib |
TheNotrap
08.19.20 | Jones vacated his title.
It was about time
|
Colton
08.19.20 | Ducking Reyes hard |
Colton
08.19.20 | @MillionDead find a way to watch Dustin Poirier vs Dan Hooker. seriously, torrent the event if you can't find it online |
Colton
08.19.20 | I've seen every ufc fight since 2015 and that shit blew my mind |
TheNotrap
08.19.20 | "Ducking Reyes hard"
That's a fact. He wants Stipe, but Dana won't give him that fight, first he'd have to pass Ngannou |
TheNotrap
08.19.20 | "I've seen every ufc fight since 2015 and that shit blew my mind"
I recorded the fight, I see it every week. UNBELIEVABLE
|
Colton
08.20.20 | I believe they're gonna do Stipe vs Ngannou first though if I'm not mistaken. Dana said that post-252. I hope Stipe wins that cause Stipe vs Jones is a way more compelling matchup than Ngannou vs Jones. Would be tragic for DC though if Jones wins |
Trundle
08.22.20 | Nemkov gonna win tonight |
Colton
08.24.20 | ^ dude nearly murdered Bader
and Ferguson vs Poirier hype |
TheNotrap
08.25.20 | It will be a bloodbath. 50/50 fight |
TheNotrap
09.04.20 | Michel Pereira vs. Zelim Imadaev gonna be PG 18+ |
Josh D.
09.04.20 | I've been jonesing to see MP fight again after Diego Sanchez did him dirty. |
TheNotrap
09.04.20 | That fight will go down in history as the best defense tactic ever, courtesy of Diego's coach. |
TheNotrap
09.17.20 | Hyped for Saturday đ I believe Colby will win by decision. Khamzat Chimaev vs. Gerald Meerschaert is also a highlight.
Meanwhile in Pakistan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMpis38ZewI |
Josh D.
09.17.20 | Un-fucking-fortunately I think Woodley is done. He's looked like a completely different person since he beat Till. I will watch in hopes he finds something new, but I'm expecting Covington to pressure him constantly, and if it is a striking match due to both being wrestlers a la Colby-Usman, Colby will win. The second I know the fight is over I'm turning it off so I don't have to listen to him. |
TheNotrap
09.17.20 | Strangely, he's been very quiet |
Colton
09.17.20 | If they made this fight two years ago everyone would pick Woodley, now heâs a 3 to 1 dog |
TheNotrap
09.17.20 | That plays to Woodley's advantage, if you ask me |
Colton
09.17.20 | Maybe but he was also an underdog against Burns and it didnât help |
dbizzles
09.17.20 | Woodley isn't even a shell of his former self. He's a ghost. |
Colton
09.17.20 | Heâs kinda always been like this tbh |
Colton
09.17.20 | Even 5+ years ago he had a tendency to back up against the cage, constantly waiting for the right moment to throw the right hand and just getting outworked |
Josh D.
09.17.20 | that's how he got Till, the backup right hand floored him and then he worked his way to a D'Arce |
Colton
09.17.20 | Yeah itâs basically how he wins all his fights but when he canât land it he has no other options |
TheNotrap
09.17.20 | I'm glad they both didn't turn this into a race fight. Shows that despite all the bad blood, they're taking a responsible attitude. |
Josh D.
09.17.20 | At least the whole card looks good otherwise |
TheNotrap
09.17.20 | I'm curious to see if Khamzat meets the expectations. I hope Meerschaert hits him hard, after all the disrespect. |
Colton
09.17.20 | That hype train will probably get derailed soon enough but Gerald is not gonna be the one to do it trust me |
TheNotrap
09.17.20 | Yeah, it's just wishful thinking, I also believe Khamzat will get the win. I just hope he manages to inflict some damage that will condition Khamzat in the next fight with Maia |
dbizzles
09.17.20 | What do you guys make of this new Michael Chandler business? |
Josh D.
09.17.20 | I don't watch Bellator because it sucks, but he's a champ that made it to the UFC, so that's fine. |
Colton
09.17.20 | Chandler is one of the handful of truly elite Bellator fighters |
TheNotrap
09.17.20 | I don't follow Bellator either, except for Cyborg, but I've read he's good. I hope he's an asset, but honestly I would prefer it to be Poirier. I'm a fan. |
Deez
09.17.20 | Dude go watch the Chandler Eddie Alvarez fights theyre legendary |
Colton
09.17.20 | ^ required watching for any mma fan honestly |
TheNotrap
09.17.20 | I don't think I've ever seen anything from Chandle, but of course I've seen some of Alvarez's fights, namely with Gaethje. Someone who wins Justin has to be a beast. |
Colton
09.17.20 | Alvarez vs Chandler is one of the most roided up slugfests of all time |
TheNotrap
09.17.20 | You've got me curious, I'll check. Tonight I will watch GSP vs Koscheck. I've never seen the whole fight. |
Flashmobba
09.17.20 | can't wait for Costa v adesanya, and khabib-gaethje too of course |
dbizzles
09.17.20 | Chandler is great. Just think its wild to have him slotted as a back-up for Khabib v Gaethje. I'd probably have him debut against 10-6? Maybe Hooker or Felder as a debut opponent. Only person near the top would maybe be Tony since he's coming off a loss. |
TheNotrap
09.17.20 | "can't wait for Costa v adesanya, and khabib-gaethje too of course"
Both fight of the year contenders. After Zhang vs JJ, obviously đ |
TheNotrap
09.17.20 | Hahah you guys need to check Colby's press conference |
dbizzles
09.17.20 | black lives matter |
TheNotrap
09.17.20 | It's official, Khamzat is a sociopath |
dbizzles
09.17.20 | Hell yeah, I love it. Gonna ride with him until the wheels fall off, and only until then. |
Colton
09.17.20 | Wtf I actually forgot Johnny Walker and Cerrone are fighting. This card is borderline ppv quality. Iâm hyped now |
TheNotrap
09.17.20 | I feel like it's the last chance for both of them, honestly, even if Cowboy has done enough to win his last fight. |
Flashmobba
09.18.20 | oh shoot Colby and Woodley is hella soon |
TheNotrap
09.18.20 | Colby / Woodley faceoff was business as usual, no drama |
Colton
09.18.20 | decided I'm gonna place a sizeable bet on Colby but if I lose it I won't even be mad |
Colton
09.18.20 | damn 1.77 to 1 for a decision win, great odds |
TheNotrap
09.18.20 | I think it will be a close fight, it doesn't seem safe to bet on anyone. |
TheNotrap
09.18.20 | I'm on Colby's corner nevertheless |
Colton
09.18.20 | Woodley winning would be a pretty huge upset |
TheNotrap
09.18.20 | His last 2 fights were disastrous but we must not forget that he's a former champion, with knockout power |
TheNotrap
09.18.20 | He only needs one big shot |
Colton
09.18.20 | Very true. What's crazy is the odds for Woodley by KO are 5.15 to 1, and Colby by KO is 5.1 to 1. The oddsmakers think it's more likely Colby wins by knockout than Tyron. |
TheNotrap
09.18.20 | I believe Colby will win by decision or by TKO in the last rounds. Woodley is emotionally fragile, if Colby manages to constantly push him against the fence in the first two rounds, Woodley could break |
Deez
09.18.20 | Double KO please |
Trundle
09.18.20 | did i hear right that Johnny Walker left Tristar and is now training with Kavanaugh?
i can't remember but he left a long time ago |
TheNotrap
09.18.20 | I know that he's been constantly changing coaches, something that hasn't helped him, however I don't know who he's with now |
Josh D.
09.18.20 | He said at the press conference he's with SBG. |
Colton
09.18.20 | Johnny Walker had such a hype train behind him before his losses. His KO of Khalil Rountree was the stuff of nightmares |
Josh D.
09.18.20 | He looked pretty amateur in that loss, if I remember correctly. He just had some exciting finishes and a goofy style leading up to it. Like injuring himself doing The Worm after a win.
I like him. |
Colton
09.18.20 | lol yeah that was awesome. and yeah he did, I believe he got pretty thoroughly outgrappled. Which makes it interesting that he's going to SBG, they're not especially known for their grappling there. They do have Gunnar Nelson though. |
Trundle
09.18.20 | member what happened when Gunnar met Demian Maia?
that was one of the most thorough beat downs I have ever seen |
Josh D.
09.19.20 | Headkick KO in the second fight, gonna be a good night. |
TheNotrap
09.19.20 | Damn, already started? Hyped! |
MO
09.19.20 | sick KO
man I hope cerrone can get the rust off and get a W... |
TheNotrap
09.19.20 | Same, I love Cowboy |
Colton
09.19.20 | Jessica-Rose Clark is the goat and would destroy Cyborg |
TheNotrap
09.19.20 | Good elbow from Jessica |
TheNotrap
09.19.20 | Ilegal? |
Colton
09.19.20 | Holy shit this is brutal |
TheNotrap
09.19.20 | I loved Jessica, didn't know her |
Colton
09.19.20 | Sheâs been one of my favourite wmma fighters but hasnât fought in forever
That ref should be fired |
TheNotrap
09.20.20 | Main card đ |
Josh D.
09.20.20 | lol at Johnny Walker interrupting his post-fight interview to flex and say âlook at me, Iâm so fucking strongâ |
TheNotrap
09.20.20 | I lost my stream... guess I'll try to see fights tomorrow |
Colton
09.20.20 | I had money on Walker and had multiple heart attacks during that |
Josh D.
09.20.20 | oh...my...god |
Colton
09.20.20 | This card is blessed |
Deez
09.20.20 | Hahah khamazat man....killer...stone cold |
TheNotrap
09.20.20 | Walk in the park for Colby đ
And damn, 17s knockout. Khamzat looks unstoppable |
MO
09.20.20 | Woodley looked awful, he just doesn't throw anything these days |
TheNotrap
09.20.20 | Yeah, he's probably done. Three in a row is too much, he has to focus on his rap career now |
Colton
09.20.20 | If Woodley didnât get that injury, I would have made soooo much money. This one stings canât lie |
Josh D.
09.20.20 | It's over for him. He'll probably take a lower top 10 fight next, acting as a proverbial stepping stone fighter. |
TheNotrap
09.23.20 | Hyped for Saturday's main and co-main.
I'm in Costa and Reys' corner. There's gonna be fireworks đ |
Colton
09.23.20 | I'll be happy for whoever wins. Costa's really won me over lately with all his trolling people about steroids lol |
TheNotrap
09.23.20 | His training videos are awesome |
TheNotrap
09.23.20 | Black Bruce Lee vs. Hulk |
Colton
09.23.20 | lol that's one way of putting it. Just a much larger Bruce Lee, who's actually a fighter
Personally I think Izzy will be able to take advantage of Costa's aggression. Counter striking has always been one of his strengths. |
TheNotrap
09.23.20 | Agreed. I'm with Costa, but Izzy is favorite, no doubt. His technique is awesome |
Trundle
09.23.20 | Nothing tops Fedor's training videos
|
TheNotrap
09.23.20 | Guess I'm missing something |
Colton
09.23.20 | I love how last saturday after Buffer announced the draw for Cerrone vs Price, the camera shows Cerrone looking all disappointed and pissed and then you just hear Price in the background going "awwww FUCK YEAH!!!!" losing his shit lol |
TheNotrap
09.23.20 | Hahah gotta love Niko, he's such an humble dude. Cowboy is his hero. I loved their post-fight interview |
TheNotrap
09.23.20 | However, Dana seems to want to throw Cerrone to his ranch, definitely. |
Colton
09.23.20 | throw him to his ranch? you mean like he wants him to retire? |
TheNotrap
09.23.20 | Yeah, I believe so |
Colton
09.23.20 | Honestly I doubt it. Cerrone is the type of guy who'll step up on short notice and fight pretty much anyone, and he doesn't even make that much money. He got like 200k for the McGregor fight. McGregor made at least 30 times that. So he's the type of guy Dana would wanna keep around I'd imagine. They should just give him an easier fight now, he hasn't won any of his last 5. |
TheNotrap
09.23.20 | I hear you, but I think Dana is looking for young, new blood at this point |
Storm In A Teacup
09.23.20 | black lives matter (2) |
Colton
09.23.20 | Yeah fair enough. With guys like Khamzat winning three fights in 66 days I guess Cerrone becomes a little less relevant. |
TheNotrap
09.23.20 | All lives matter to me, donât bring racist comments to this thread, please |
Storm In A Teacup
09.23.20 | i appreciate the sentiment but all lives can matter when every life matters |
TheNotrap
09.23.20 | I believe Khamzat is the real deal, he's really a "rat lip" scary dude |
Colton
09.23.20 | "All lives matter to me, donât bring racist comments to this thread, please"
lol please tell me this is a pasta
|
TheNotrap
09.23.20 | ? Nope, no pasta
|
Deez
09.24.20 | oh dear |
TheNotrap
09.25.20 | Hahah Izzy / Paulo face off was awesome. Izzy lost it, Paulo is in his head. |
Pon
09.27.20 | Just dropping in to say Izzy put in a perfect performance. Absolutely surgical. |
Colton
09.27.20 | He's too good |
Storm In A Teacup
09.27.20 | anyone agree with me that mcgregor might be too slow to deal with Manny? |
TheNotrap
09.27.20 | Damn, Izzy torn that leg apart. Easy win. Paulo should have changed his strategy as soon as his leg got destroyed.
I was also expecting Reys to win. |
Josh D.
09.27.20 | Reyes and Costa just didn't look into it |
Colton
09.27.20 | Is that a joke Storm? |
Deez
09.27.20 | Nobody looks into it when they get smoked.
Izzy is phenomenal. He triggers alot of Mma fans because he dyes his hair pink and buts comics and dances and shit. I love it. Hes cringey as fuck but he is elite. No doubt about it. That droppy gyno titty was sketchy as fuck though.
Fair fucks to big Jan too. Expected reyes to be too much. Great card in the end. |
Eakflanderyof
09.27.20 | "Paulo should have changed his strategy as soon as his leg got destroyed."
He was trying but every time he tried to close the gap he was getting stuffed or wrecked by adasanya's countering. His defense is simply too good |
Colton
09.27.20 | Costa is not a very strategic fighter to begin with, he largely relies on his pressure, and pressuring people is hard when you canât put any weight on your leg. A lot of people underestimate what it feels like getting your leg kicked like that |
Deez
09.27.20 | He was completely outclassed from the get go. To bothered about trying to show he wasnt hurt. I thought he was gonna throw a suprise and try and use his JJ but nothing. |
TheNotrap
09.27.20 | I don't see anyone beating Izzy at this point. |
Colton
09.27.20 | I think Diego Sanchez has a shot honestly. His grappling would be too much. |
Deez
09.27.20 | The belly Vs The tit |
Colton
09.27.20 | I hope they find some shot fighter to match Diego up with so he can retire on a win. Dude is a nut but I like him |
Storm In A Teacup
09.27.20 | "Is that a joke Storm?"
as far as I know it is not. the videos of Mcgregor sparring look slow to me and I've seen a bunch of people calling him "Slow Boy McGregor". |
TheNotrap
09.27.20 | I respect Diego but he needs to retire, along with his colorful coach. |
Colton
09.27.20 | lol Storm the entire world unanimously agrees McGregor is gonna get brutalized. He will be a massive underdog. Saying "does anyone else think Pacquiao will beat McGregor" is like saying "does anyone else think The Beatles and Pink Floyd are good bands?" |
Storm In A Teacup
09.27.20 | ohhhhhhhh I see I see, I know nothing of these ufc guys if they are younger than 40 but I like Manny |
Colton
09.27.20 | ah fair enough |
Flashmobba
09.27.20 | man adesanya embarrassed the poor guy last nite lmao |
Colton
09.27.20 | I love people being up in arms about Izzy taunting and being mean after the fight as if Costa didn't relentlessly talk shit about him for the past 6 months |
TheNotrap
09.27.20 | What did he say? I just noticed he called Costa's coach "gremlin" hahah |
MO
09.27.20 | Fucking Costa what was he even doing in there
Proprs to Izzy but fuck me is he impossible to root for. Too much showboating I can't stand him |
Colton
09.27.20 | well he humped Costa after the ref stopped it, then Costa's coach said something to Izzy and Izzy did a jerking off motion and said "I cum all over you" (lol) and now he's on twitter retweeting shit like this https://twitter.com/CaioVini_P/status/1310299361163780097/photo/1 |
Colton
09.27.20 | Izzy is showboaty but he really turned it up to 11 for this fight because of all the shit Costa talked. He was different with other fights |
Deez
09.27.20 | Didnt see hardly ANY showboating from him last night MO during the fight. Ok the 'hump' and all the other shit in and around it but it was Costa doing all the showboating pretending to be hurt and shit buy yeah he just has a really grating personality. I dont give a fuck if hes a nerd, if hes gay whatever the fk but something just irks me. That fake american twang that seeps in too. But INSIDE the cage he is a phenom. No doubting it. |
MO
09.27.20 | He's turning into Jones. Sure in the cage he's great but all his out of cage antics and cocky bullshit is a pain and just makes me lose all interest |
Deez
09.27.20 | I agree apart from the losing interest part.Thats also THE fight to make down the line. |
Colton
09.27.20 | Lmao how is he turning into Jones? Does he have multiple DUIs and failed drug tests? Does he fight dirty af and blind all his opponents with eye pokes? I get why Izzyâs personality and cockiness rub some people the wrong way but come on |
hal1ax
09.27.20 | izzy v costa was such a weird fight. costa barely threw any hands? and it just seemed like he was fighting timidly... or maybe cautiously? more than usual, anyway. and in no way did i think izzy would knock him out lol. so odd. |
hal1ax
09.27.20 | i hope cannonier beats whittaker so we can see izzy / cannonier |
Deez
09.28.20 | Wft hal discuss MMA
2020 man seriously... |
hal1ax
09.28.20 | haha i've followed it intermittently for a while. just never got around to commenting on it before. 2020 though fr |
Colton
10.11.20 | easily one of the craziest knockouts ever https://streamja.com/2139r |
dbizzles
10.11.20 | That is KOTY for sure, right? |
Colton
10.11.20 | I don't think it's hyperbolic to say it's top 10 all time |
MO
10.11.20 | Can't think of any others that match this one... unreal.
Edit: that sandhagen KO too holy shit |
dbizzles
10.11.20 | 10/10 fight night. The hits just kept coming. |
TheNotrap
10.11.20 | What a finish by Sandhagen. Awesome |
TheNotrap
10.16.20 | Bellator is a walk in the park for Cyborg |
Josh D.
10.16.20 | god Bellator sucks |
TheNotrap
10.16.20 | I don't know the roster, I just follow Cyborg |
Josh D.
10.16.20 | I've told this before, but once they had a big event on a weekend that the UFC didn't have anything, so I decided to check it out. Three consecutive fights just had guys dropping down to grab an ankle the whole fight. I turned it off.
They get some star power by nabbing a handful of UFC fighters while they're still young and good, like Gegard and Rory, and then guys like Machida that are on their way out, and then the rest is negligible. They just lost their biggest name too. MVP is the only fighter I'd watch because he's good and entertaining. |
TheNotrap
10.16.20 | I think I've never watched any Michael Page fight. Need to fix that.
Looking forward to Zombie vs. Ortega. I predict a war |
Colton
10.16.20 | Bellator is the retirement home of MMA
Michael Page is only good by virtue of only ever being matched up against cans, except for Douglas Lima who knocked him out |
Colton
10.17.20 | Korean Zombie bout to murder Ortega |
Josh D.
10.18.20 | so much for that |
Colton
10.18.20 | i meant to say Ortega will win all 5 rounds |
TheNotrap
10.18.20 | Ortega looked really sharp, great win(50-45).
Gamrot was robbed.
|
TheNotrap
10.24.20 | This is gonna be fireworks
LET'S GO JUSTIN! đ |
hal1ax
10.24.20 | khabib > |
MO
10.24.20 | Man Struve is so done. He should do one more fight and call it a career |
TheNotrap
10.24.20 | Massive win for Ankalaev. I didn't see the prelims MO. |
TheNotrap
10.24.20 | Shakirova looks like that little badass girl that no one would mess around in high school. |
Colton
10.24.20 | Khabib gonna make me rich tonight |
Pon
10.24.20 | Incoming KHABIB SMESH |
TheNotrap
10.24.20 | Nice submission |
Colton
10.24.20 | nice. Was gonna bet on that one going over 2.5 rounds, but bet on Murphy winning instead. that was a good call |
TheNotrap
10.24.20 | I'm also hyped for Whittaker vs. Cannonier, it's going to be massive. |
hal1ax
10.24.20 | i always torrent this shit the following day but i'm actually considering paying for this one so i can watch it live |
TheNotrap
10.24.20 | Go to buffstream.live. The stream is working for me |
TheNotrap
10.24.20 | JESUS WHAT A KO
Phil Hawes is badass. |
hal1ax
10.24.20 | oh rly? and this stream will catch the whole event? |
TheNotrap
10.24.20 | yeah |
TheNotrap
10.24.20 | Well, I hope so |
Colton
10.24.20 | thanks for that link notrap. I usually use crackstreams or ripple, but good to have a third just in case the first two crash |
hal1ax
10.24.20 | oh fuck. you guys are the best |
TheNotrap
10.24.20 | You're welcome Colton |
Josh D.
10.24.20 | Ripple, buff stream, sport surge, bila are all my go to sites |
Colton
10.24.20 | shit now I have 5 streams. thanks guys. hard to get this info on reddit, most subs ban you for asking |
Wructy
10.24.20 | Damnit man lol I was at the first Cutelaba vs. Ankalaev fight. We all got robbed that night. Was pulling for Ion this time. |
TheNotrap
10.24.20 | I feel bad for Walt Harris |
Wructy
10.24.20 | Me too. Really wanted to see him get a big win. |
TheNotrap
10.24.20 | Whittaker is the man đ
Nice fight. |
TheNotrap
10.24.20 | Now
LET'S GO JUSTIN! đ |
Wructy
10.24.20 | I liked Cannonier for this too lmao not a good day for me for picks at all |
TheNotrap
10.24.20 | Well Khabib is the man. Hands down |
hal1ax
10.24.20 | holy shit |
Colton
10.24.20 | Didnât expect that to be so emotional damn. Amazing win for Khabib. Beautiful retirement. Conor can hold that L for the rest of his life for what he said about Khabibâs dad |
Eakflanderyof
10.24.20 | Gaethje did not have his cardio up to par. Dude looked gassed halfway through the first round lol |
hal1ax
10.24.20 | there was a lot of coincidental onion cutting happening in my apartment after that fight đ |
Colton
10.24.20 | the story of Khabib is some truly legendary shit. his career has been like a movie. hard to believe he's really done but this retirement felt very real and very final to me, I don't think he's coming back |
hal1ax
10.24.20 | yea he doesn't seem like the type to waver or be irresolute on a promise |
hal1ax
10.24.20 | after the fight dana said khabib broke his foot in training 3 weeks ago lol. guy is such a fckin warrior |
Pon
10.24.20 | Man is inarguably the lightweight goat and has nothing left to prove. Beautiful send off to a glittering career by an amazing person. |
Colton
10.24.20 | Yeah Iâm really glad heâs going out on his own terms and not letting the UFC force him into a bullshit Conor rematch where Conor will probably mock him and his dad again and put him through a bunch of bullshit just so he can fight someone he already beat decisively |
Eakflanderyof
10.24.20 | I don't think conor would do that again honestly. He's kind of doing his redemption arc story now. I'm sure he'd still talk some trash though |
Colton
10.24.20 | â"I figured it was all just a cover up about Abdulmanap. A cover up to hide the lack of activity and the pulling out of fights and running away. Good luck but remember â Allah sees all!" - Conor just a few months ago |
Eakflanderyof
10.24.20 | I don't follow these guys social media so I miss that kind of stuff. Ah well. Once an asshole, always an asshole i guess. I think conor's got substance abuse issues so he'll say something one minute then go right back to being conor the next day.
I really wish we could've seen Ferguson and khabib though. I think that he'd be a good match up against khabib |
hal1ax
10.24.20 | is it just me or did justin kind of look like shit tonight? i thought he had BJJ chops? |
MO
10.24.20 | Was never a huge fan of khabib, but he's a complete savage and has earned my respect. Also he's a family first man which is tops in my books |
Pon
10.24.20 | "is it just me or did justin kind of look like shit tonight? i thought he had BJJ chops?" Well you can be the second best wrestler in the division and still be a whole plane of existence below Khabib. |
hal1ax
10.25.20 | eh but i've seen less acclaimed wrestlers than justin defend better against khabib. he just looked off or something idk. |
Colton
10.25.20 | He may have gotten slightly overzealous with his striking |
Eakflanderyof
10.25.20 | Conor even defended his wrestling a lot better than gaethje and conor is shit at wrestling defense |
Deez
10.25.20 | Fucking phenomenal. Justins face at the end of the first looked like he was at the end of the fifth. That pressure is just shocking to people. Khabibs chin is underrated to. Never truly rocked. Allows him to walk forward. Happy hes going out like that. Think GOAT talk is people caught in the moment. LW goat without a doubt and right up there in all timers due to him utter domination of all in front of him (Tibau aside)
That was some scene at the end. Just seen the russian translation too and where he said 'Be close to your parent I only have one now' .....Man....
'Conor even defended his wrestling a lot better than gaethje and conor is shit at wrestling defense'
he didnt defend shit without holding the shorts though and was still put on his back swift. |
widowslaugh123
11.08.20 | Just watched the khabib vs Justin fight and holy shit |
TheNotrap
11.08.20 | Big win for old dog Teixeira. He takes big shots but he keeps going until he has his opponent on the ground. |
Colton
11.08.20 | Big L for my parlay |
Colton
11.22.20 | first fight of 255 was legendary |
TheNotrap
11.22.20 | I haven't seen the prelims yet, I'll check today.
A walk in the park for Figueiredo, and Valentina is already a legend. I'm glad burger king Perry lost. |
TheNotrap
11.22.20 | Indeed, that first fight was epic |
Colton
11.22.20 | yeah fuck racist woman beating Mike Perry. I wanted to like him for a long time cause he's fuckin hilarious but unfortunately he's a piece of shit. Missed weight too.
fell asleep during the Val fight (lol) and woke up just as Perez tapped |
TheNotrap
12.13.20 | Figueiredo vs. Moreno... Jesus WHAT A FIGHT |
Colton
12.13.20 | There were so many crazy moments in that event. That Kevin Holland KO, Chase Hooper with that crazy comeback submission, that nasty armbar on Tony, and the whole main event. Awesome ppv. And the free one next week is just as good if not better |
MO
12.13.20 | Yea that main event was no joke. Also crazy how good Olivera is jesus |
TheNotrap
12.13.20 | I never thought MACKENZIE would win standing, she's my girl. |
Trundle
12.14.20 | that was a great ppv |
Colton
01.20.21 | Holloway looked INSANE last weekend, holy shit |
Colton
01.20.21 | also, there's a card happening right now for those that don't know. Figured some of you European guys might wanna know, you finally get a reasonable time slot |
Deez
01.20.21 | Last few UFCs have been normal time for us 8pm ish. |
TheNotrap
01.20.21 | Holloway delivered a MASSIVE performance |
TheNotrap
01.20.21 | "also, there's a card happening right now for those that don't know. Figured some of you European guys might wanna know, you finally get a reasonable time slot"
Yeah, I want to watch the main event. I like Chiesa |
Josh D.
01.20.21 | I'm watching at work |
Trundle
01.20.21 | The class action law suit against the ufc with 1200 fighters has taken the next step in court.
the ufc/espn just increased the price of the monthly subscription on espn +
and in the states ppv's are now 70 bucks a pop,
also one of mcgregor's rape cases just made it to court and he is being sued for 2 million pounds
meanwhile bellator acquired anthony johnson and yoel romero and are putting on a lhw gp with:
Vadim Nemkov
Gegard Mousasi
Anthony Johnson
Yoel
Corey Anderson
Phil Davis
Ryan Bader
and idk who the last one would be
hopefully Stephan Puetz, but it could be Machida cuz he has a bigger name
and the events only cost 20 bucks on DAZN and are free on CBS sports in the states |
Trundle
01.20.21 | meanwhile the ufc lhw divison's top guys are:
jan
glover
thiago santos
Reyes
Jiri prochazka
and miscellaneous |
TheNotrap
01.20.21 | Izzy will soon be the big fish |
Colton
01.20.21 | Hadnât heard of the lawsuit whatâs it about? And Bellator usually sucks tbh |
Josh D.
01.20.21 | those LHW's are all good, so... |
Trundle
01.20.21 | anti-trust lawsuit, basically the ufc, specifically with dana as the mouth piece, would devalue their own fighters to get them to take less money, and since the UFC had no real competitors at the time, it was basically take it or leave it for the fighters. plus the ufc pay distribution to the fighters is anywhere between 15-20%
meanwhile bellator splits 45% of revenue with the fighters, and under scott coker has actually started to make a profit
if any of you remember the fan favourite "spencer fisher" who dana used to always praise for taking any fight, can't even function at all anymore, and now dana's like
well too bad
he got tons of FOTN bonuses too but was out of a job in his 30's
|
Trundle
01.20.21 | Nemkov is probably the best lhw in the world right now |
Colton
01.20.21 | ah yeah I heard about the case with Spencer Fisher, very sad stuff. Dana used to say shit like "MMA is one of the safest sports" and now his attitude his shifted to "whatever, it's part of the gig." But to be honest I don't see how that's Dana's fault. He's an asshole about it, but he didn't cause that brain damage.
As for fighter pay, I definitely think Dana is scummy and greedy af, but I don't see how the fighters have a leg to stand on here from a legal standpoint. They offer fighters a contract, and fighters either accept or decline. It's kinda on them. |
Trundle
01.20.21 | well they do, when the ufc has a monopoly on the business
and there's very few options to get paid anywhere else unless you already had a big name.
so if you were starting out in the ufc, the biggest promotion in the world, making 8k/8k is not sustainable, when if you're lucky you'll have a professional career of 10 years.
now base pay in the ufc is 12/12, pretty farcical for the amount of risk involved in fighting
i mean of course these fighters should have known what they were signing up for, but damn, it's not like they have NFL to fall back on. most fighters would make more money with a regular job, but they choose to be fighters, which isn't that abnormal, but still they should get better compensation for their risk from a billion dollar company |
Trundle
01.20.21 | that's the whole point of this anti-trust suit, the ufc has a monopoly on fan interest in NA, and every fighter is signed to an exclusive contract and unable to fight anywhere else
Cue Dana saying "they're independent contractors, not employees!"
|
Colton
01.20.21 | I agree that itâs messed up, I just donât understand the legal argument. What is the actual legal argument for them being entitled to more money if they agree to their pay ahead of time in a contract? |
Trundle
01.20.21 | that's a grey area, and i'm not gonna pretend like i know the specifics, i haven't checked up on the specific allegations lately.
but basically this lawsuit was started by Cung Le, who actually had money to spend on it, and it took years and years for fighters to feel safe to join it
every fighter from 2010-2017 are entitled to settlement money if they win the case |
TheNotrap
01.20.21 | Dominant performance by Chiesa |
Colton
01.20.21 | honestly Trundle I think the odds of that happening are around the same as Nick Diaz coming back and winning a fight, or Gian Villante not inexplicably making his way onto at least 3 Fight Night main cards this year. Just won't happen |
Trundle
01.20.21 | actually, it's much more likely now, with Andrew Yang personally championing bringing the Ali act to MMA, he's released multiple videos specifically talking about pay in the ufc, and that was before he ran for president
And he's got the ear of the president.
but yeah, years ago when this started, i was like ya, this isn't gonna go anywhere, but now maybe it will.
the other stuff you said is obviously not gonna happen though hahahaha.
also, WME may shake things up now, Dana campaigned for Trump and spoke at the RNC convention
and the ufc put out a documentary on trump, literally titled "combatant in chief"
which was a total farce at the time, but now it's too true. after the coup attempt they removed the documentary
but yeah, if a real journalist actually does just a little digging into the situation, they may have to shake things up
WME realized that they paid way too much for the ufc, and are trying to make their money back as fast as possible. that's why they put the pay wall in front of another pay wall. they paid 4 billion for the ufc, and after the deal a lot of the experts familiar with the ufc financials said they were maybe worth half of that at most.
disney said they weren't going to pay the ufc the full 750 million dollar a year deal unless they put on the amount of events that they were required in the contract, covid be damned |
Colton
01.21.21 | I could definitely see some changes being made to the way fighters are paid. I would like to see that happen. But fighters winning money for having been underpaid in the past seems really unlikely
"and the ufc put out a documentary on trump, literally titled "combatant in chief"
that's such a stupid thing for them to do for so many reasons lol
"disney said they weren't going to pay the ufc the full 750 million dollar a year deal unless they put on the amount of events that they were required in the contract, covid be damned"
that's interesting cause they've actually been making a lot of cuts lately, I think like 60-70 fighters got cut. So I would assume that means slightly fewer events going forward. Or maybe they'll just try to get fighters to fight more often
|
Trundle
01.21.21 | fuck i just wrote out a long response and sput clocked out haha
the number of cuts hasn't changed much, it's who they're cutting, guys with bigger pay to make room for more entry level contracts and guys from the contender series.
this is the list of cuts in 2020,
https://www.sportskeeda.com/mma/news-ufc-cuts-2020-all-fighters-cut-promotion
notable names include
Anderson Silva
Shogun (retired)
Yoel
Thiago Alves
Corey Anderson
Rustam Khabilov
Ricardo Lamas
James Vick
Evan Dunham
usually the guys who got cut at the end of the year were mostly lower tier. |
Colton
01.23.21 | that makes sense, they love those DWCS guys |
Colton
01.23.21 | hyped for tmo |
MO
01.23.21 | yea, if Dustin can weather the storm I think he takes it |
TheNotrap
01.23.21 | Dustin has a fair chance if he gets to the third round. I'm also hyped for the co-main, Hooker vs. Chandler will surely be fireworks. |
Colton
01.23.21 | yeah he's a big boy and his cardio is solid but I still have Conor winning. Could see it being a close decision for Poirier though |
MO
01.24.21 | The Diamond!!
called that shit |
Colton
01.24.21 | Speechless |
unclereich
01.24.21 | rip in p, big money tn bois |
Deez
01.24.21 | hahahahahahah
YESSSSSSSSSSSS
Lemme guess 'Motivated Conor' just became 'Unmotivated Conor'? DUde cant retire every 3 weeks, Hold 2 divisions up in the past , Talk about boxing fights then cry about 'Inactivity'
Made up for Dustin. Superb
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ReefaJones
01.24.21 | Lightweight is a clusterfuck right now. Many guys deserve it and it depends on whether or not Khabib defends. If Khabib doesn't defend it should be Poirier vs Oliveira for the title and Gaethje vs Chandler for the next title challenger |
unclereich
01.24.21 | that would be a great fight |
widowslaugh123
01.24.21 | Dustin vs Justin rematch when |
Deez
01.24.21 | This is why they gave him the LW title shot straight away (after the misstep with Diaz) and this was peoples argument with that. He never had to beat a string of top LWs He was always cutting to fight midgets. If he had to go through a LW Ferg/Khabib etc before a title shot, proper LW on winning streaks, the double champ thing doesnt happen. Alvarez was made for him in his first defence. The money was in selling the story that Conor promoted. The 2 weights, despite not having a single LW fight in the UFC before. It worked. (even though Henderson was aready the first Double champ in Pride)
Happy for Chandler too after all this time. Makes for some great fights. |
Deez
01.24.21 | What a pic
https://www.instagram.com/p/CKaqkxvlkGt/?igshid=1a09trevh3jlz |
TheNotrap
01.24.21 | Well I wasn't expecting this. Neither Dustin's victory nor Chandler's quick win. |
Colton
01.24.21 | âgave him the LW title shot straight away (after the misstep with Diaz) and this was peoples argument with that. He never had to beat a string of top LWs He was always cutting to fight midgets. If he had to go through a LW Ferg/Khabib etc before a title shot, proper LW on winning streaks, the double champ thing doesnt happen.â
Iâm no Conor fan and Iâm extremely happy for Dustin but I donât think we should retroactively diminish his accomplishments. He had beaten every opponent he ever faced prior to fighting Eddie. And it was good for the lightweight division, cause it gave them a shot to fight Conor and make a name for themselves. But I do agree that beating guys at 155 is a whole different thing than 145. But he did beat Nate and Cerrone at 170. Theyâre giving Izzy the same treatment now, having him fight at 205 for the belt despite having never fought there |
Colton
01.24.21 | The leg kicks were brilliant from Poirier, Conor puts so much weight on his lead leg that they were to be chopped down and he did exactly that. Poirier lost round 1 but still looked sharp there too |
Deez
01.24.21 | He had beaten every opponent he ever faced prior to fighting Eddie. And it was good for the lightweight division, cause it gave them a shot to fight Conor and make a name for themselves. '
It didn't though did it. Hed never had a UFC LW fight
And then didnt have another until Khabib 2 years later. Was literally the worst thing for the LW divison. Khabib and Ferg on win streaks couldnt get a title shot as he wouldnt defend it. No one could as he said the 'didnt excite him enough'
You cant argue what he did at FW. Hes now 3-3 outside of FW.
The difference is Izzy has defended his title before moving up. Conor was shoehorned in straight away to fit their first ever double champ narrative. Never defended either against the elite. |
Colton
01.24.21 | Yeah but when the fight was made they expected Conor to be active at lightweight going forward. So it made sense at the time, wasnât until after that the Floyd fight got made and then he sat out until they had to strip him |
Colton
01.24.21 | âThe difference is Izzy has defended his title before moving up. Conor was shoehorned in straight away to fit their first ever double champ narrative. Never defended either against the elite.â
I do think that not defending diminishes his legacy as champion, but at the same time, there was nobody at FW for him to fight in 2016 that he hadnât already fought. Who would he have defended against, Frankie Edgar? |
Deez
01.24.21 | 'I will win this belt and defend it many many timed I wont be someone who sits out like these' CM
I agree there was nothing left for him at FW apart from a rematch with Aldo or edgar. Aldo deserved a rematch. Been the only FW champ. I still think hed get smoked but he said he wouldnt give up the belt and said hed defend both and didnt defend either. Read any autobiography from any fighter whos been a champ in any sport and the hardest is staying on top when youve got it all and having to defend and stay motivated while these guys are more hungry. That separates the best. Others have had to beat multiple contenders to get there shot then beat the champ then defend. He had ONE fight to win. Thats it. There is no legacy at LW. Just a narrative the company sold everyone. He still had to win it and did, fair play. Sometimes things fall into place. Would have loved to see how the RDA match would have turned out.
A great FW
A good LW
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Colton
01.24.21 | Not big on immediate rematches for people who just got knocked out but yeah, I do think defending your belt makes you a real champion. But Conor still deserves credit for always taking hard fights and always showing up, even though I don't like him as a person. But ultimately it should be about Dustin and the insane performance he had. He got beat in round 1, and then regrouped and came back and looked amazing. Pretty fitting representation of his career honestly |
Josh D.
01.24.21 | I'm glad Dustin won't fight Chandler, a few fighters deserve a shot before him. |
Colton
01.24.21 | I would like to see Poirier vs Oliveira for the belt, or Poirier vs the winner of Chandler vs Oliveira |
Deez
01.24.21 | Me either (rematches) man but when youve had it for what 3 years was it? Unbeaten in 6 (Might be longer) Then that justifies a rematch. But I dont blame him for taking a better more attractive route thats not on him thats the company. And theyre a business. The integrity of rankings and defences went out the window at the same time.
Conors a fighter. Hes a good fighter and a great FW. He deserves loads of respect for what hes done ut the company has been favourable with him also. And chances others never got. But thats business.
I watched the fight again before. Conor didnt look bad at all in the first. A little more static that usual and a little more boxing style but still landed very good shots. Dustins gameplan worked perfectly in the end. How can anyone not be happy for him. |
Colton
01.24.21 | "Me either (rematches) man but when youve had it for what 3 years was it? Unbeaten in 6 (Might be longer) Then that justifies a rematch."
You can definitely make an argument for him deserving it, but I think they're bad for the fighters. Fighters who lose the first fight generally lose an immediate rematch. But yeah, super happy for Dustin. About to rewatch the co-main and main now |
Colton
01.24.21 | and yeah I don't think Conor looked bad. I think Poirier is just too big to get finished early, has 5 round cardio, crazy pace and volume, and his leg kick gameplan worked perfectly |
Josh D.
01.24.21 | Conor was winning until the last 30 seconds.
I'd like Oliveria vs. Chandler or Gaethje and the winner fights Dustin for the strap. Conor either goes Nate at 155 or Tony. I'd say Dan too, but he left his gloves in the Octagon last night so... |
Josh D.
01.24.21 | And before you say Gaethje already had his shot, he's been a different fighter since his Poirier loss. |
Colton
01.24.21 | Oliveira fighting Chandler for the shot against Poirier makes sense. Gaethje just got finished in the second round so that does not make sense to me at all right now |
Deez
01.24.21 | Olivera v Dustin for the belt for me
Chandler - Justin fights the winner.
|
Colton
01.24.21 | That makes a lot of sense. I'm sure the UFC won't care too much about whether Poirier fights Oliveira or Chandler. They probably just wanna get him in a title fight to capitalize on the momentum he has right now. I don't think Poirier will ever be a star but anyone that beats Conor gets some buzz around them. |
dbizzles
01.25.21 | Am I the only one that thinks Charlie Olives' streak doesn't warrant a title shot? He has 1 elite win. Considering the state of the division, I can see why people are saying he deserves to fight Poirier, but I don't see him beating anyone in the better half of the top 10. His win against Tony was impressive, but a finish would have elevated that x100- and you KNOW the UFC is thinking about Chandler now whether Dustin likes it or not.
Give Dustin a break and then fight for vacant belt
Give Oliviera Chandler for shot for a #1 contender fight
Give Gaethje Diaz for fun and see how those fights shake out
Conor v Tony or Hooker
This is all assuming Khabib is actually done fighting and I believe he is. |
Colton
01.25.21 | I think Oliveira deserves it in the current context of the division. Crazy win streak and a dominant win over a top ranked guy. Nobody deserves it more right now |
Josh D.
01.25.21 | He's on an 8-fight streak, last two being a convincing win over Kevin Lee and absolute domination of Tony. He has the most subs in the promotion's history.
I think Khabib is definitely done based on Dana's last update. I do, however, think if he came back he would still dominate Gaethje and Dustin again, Oliveira, everyone. |
TheNotrap
01.25.21 | I wouldn't be surprised if Dustin takes a break, waiting for Chandler vs Oliveira's outcome. |
Colton
01.25.21 | He seemed weirdly down after beating Conor. Didnât really celebrate, didnât seem too happy in the press conference. Was saying he doesnât love fighting anymore right after the win too. I think he might retire soon |
TheNotrap
01.25.21 | The confinement before the fight stressed him out. He's a fighter and wants that belt more than anything. It was probably just an outburst. |
Josh D.
01.25.21 | I wonder if that's why Hooker left his gloves in the Octagon. He has to quarantine for two weeks every time before going home, so losing a couple fights to the elite guys of the division might've made him lose it a little. |
dbizzles
01.25.21 | I can't imagine how he feels having to isolate like that after getting embarrassed by a guy that is 5'4". |
Colton
01.25.21 | The absolute disrespect to Cejudo |
TheNotrap
01.25.21 | Hahah |
Colton
01.25.21 | "The confinement before the fight stressed him out. He's a fighter and wants that belt more than anything. It was probably just an outburst."
Yeah that's what I'm hoping. He is way too good and fun to watch to retire now. Seems like no fighter who has beat McGregor is particularly thrilled afterward, just relieved more than anything (or enraged if you're Khabib) |
hal1ax
01.25.21 | is chandler the real deal? i wonder if khabib would be willing to come back to fight him if he was dominant enough |
Colton
01.25.21 | if Khabib comes back I think it'll be out of a desire to compete in general, and not for any one specific person, unless GSP comes back. Chandler is the real deal though. Had money on him, would have cashed out big but I parlayed it with McGregor :/ |
hal1ax
01.25.21 | lol bummer. and yea i'm excited to see who he fights next. chandler v ferguson could be cool |
Deez
01.25.21 | Absolutely he is. Could argue hes past his best now but going by his last 2 fights maybe not. The first alvarez fight is still one of my fave ever. Can still hang with any of the top UFC LW for me. |
dbizzles
01.25.21 | That fight answered a lot of questions about Chandler, was the perfect measuring stick for a debut even if Hooker looked... weird. I don't think Chandler deserves a crack at the top yet, which is why I think Chandler/Oliviera is a good matchup, but again, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets one. |
Colton
01.25.21 | I wouldn't be shocked if he gets it, he was a backup for Gaethje vs Khabib so I'm sure he's on Dana's good side now. Plus he had that WWE style callout. |
hal1ax
01.26.21 | dustin v gaethje / chandler v oliviera would be sick |
TheNotrap
02.07.21 | Massive KO by Cory Sandhagen. His next fight will be for the belt. |
Josh D.
02.07.21 | Yeah that was insane. I was settling back on my couch and looked up just in time and just stared jaw open for probably a full minute. |
TheNotrap
02.21.21 | The black beast did it again. |
hal1ax
03.28.21 | bout to starttttt
thinking stipe takes it again |
hal1ax
03.28.21 | holy shit |
Colton
03.28.21 | Those last 3 fights were so good |
Colton
03.31.21 | man Leon Edwards fighting Nate Diaz is such a joke. Not only does it make no sense in the context of the 170 division but it's a bullshit way for Dana to justify givng the winner a title shot and completely skipping over Wonderboy who deserves it and is 38 not getting any younger :/ |
TheNotrap
03.31.21 | It's a money fight, good business for Leon. All he has to do is sneeze and Nate gets all bloody. |
Colton
03.31.21 | For sure a good fight for Leon. easy win. Just tired of bullshit fights like that and Usman vs Masvidal completely halting the flow of the division. Usman vs Edwards should have been booked before the Belal Muhammad fight even. If not him it should have been Wonderboy. Nobodyâs tryna see Masvidal lose 5 rounds in a row again lol |
TheNotrap
03.31.21 | Agreed, Masvidal vs. Usman is a joke |
Colton
04.25.21 | RIP Chris Weidmanâs leg holy shit |
Josh D.
04.25.21 | do not watch, repeat, do not watch |
Colton
04.25.21 | That was a legendary event holy shit |
Divaman
04.25.21 | Thanks for the heads up. I will trust you on that. |
widowslaugh123
04.25.21 | Fuck that was insane |
Colton
04.25.21 | The slow motion replay where you see him fall on it is insane, never thought Iâd see a limb bend like that |
Colton
04.25.21 | But those KOs from Rose and Usman were beautiful |
widowslaugh123
04.25.21 | Legit works of art
Usman vs Covington got me stoked |
hal1ax
04.25.21 | So excited to watch this. Was kinda surprised to see all the quick KOs. Figured Weili v Rose would be a war |
Colton
04.25.21 | If he finishes Colby again itâs gonna be hard to imagine him losing to anyone although I think Stephen Thompson has a solid shot |
Colton
04.25.21 | Yeah hal1ax it was crazy how short it was with there being three 5 round fights |
Josh D.
04.25.21 | Fuck Rose, but I thought she had the best chance at the upset between all the title fights. She's just that good. I'm more wide-eyed at seeing Masvidal get KOd for the first time. I didn't think he'd win, but I didn't expect him to lose like that. And then lastly, no one is beating Shevchenko unless she moves weight and goes after Amanda again. |
widowslaugh123
04.25.21 | That masvidal ko still has me buzzing yeah
Every fight was fucking nuts |
Colton
04.25.21 | Yeah Rose at 2.8 to 1 odds was a steal |
TheNotrap
04.26.21 | Insane card. Usman and Valentina seem unbeatable at the moment, and while I knew Rose had a serious chance of winning, I didn't see that massive KO coming.
Terrible what happened to Chris Weidman. Super bizarre. |
Colton
04.26.21 | Excited for Usmanâs future. Very much opposed to the Colby rematch though. Why tf is Dana saying heâs next in line? He got finished by Usman, and then beat a guy who lost his last 4 fights and isnât even in the UFC anymore, and then just sat out. Why tf does Colby deserve it over Leon Edwards or Wonderboy? Itâs so stupid. Let Colby actually get active and fight a top 5 guy before giving him another shot |
Colton
04.26.21 | After Leon beats Nate it should be Leon vs Usman (cause Wonderboy has a fight booked in June I believe against Gilbert Burns). Then the winner of Wonderboy vs Burns can fight the winner of Leon vs Usman |
TheNotrap
04.27.21 | Leon has also lost to Usman before, but I see your point. Honestly, Usman vs. Colby is the fight I want to see next, but judging by the recent improvement in Usman striking, I doubt he (or anyone else) has a chance.
Trevor Wittman is the man. |
Josh D.
04.27.21 | Of course I loathe Colby, but I agree that he shouldn't be next for the reasons above. I don't like when people sit on the sideline calling for a shot (7 months now, who knows when that fight would be too).
I was hoping for Thompson to get another shot now that there's a different champion and the masterclass he put on against Geoff Neal. It's always an intriguing matchup with him because no one has his style.
It wasn't all Leon's fault he was off so long, so the Belal ending sucked. But if he beats Nate, he'll call for it and should get it. I like this division apart from one asshole. |
Colton
04.27.21 | Leonâs loss to Usman was ages ago, Colbyâs was recent. So that shouldnât matter. Agreed on Wonderboy, he deserves it and is not getting any younger |
Josh D.
04.27.21 | I'm just glad Woodley is out. He didn't get his due when he was champion, but losing 4 in a row, and badly, he was in the way of the top 3 for everyone else. |
Colton
04.28.21 | Yeah pretty much. Iâm glad he at least tried in his last fight and had some moments |
Colton
05.27.21 | Max Holloway vs Yair Rodriguez just got booked. I can't think of a more fun matchup in the entire UFC |
TheNotrap
05.27.21 | Yeah, it should be fun |
Colton
06.11.21 | Blessed card tomorrow |
Josh D.
06.11.21 | Predictions, my gut tells me:
Izzy
Figuereido
Leon
I assume all favorites, yeah, but if I had to decide an upset I'd go with Moreno. He showed unbelievable toughness and Deiveson doesn't move his head a lot at times. |
TheNotrap
06.11.21 | Same here: Izzy | Figgy | Leon |
TheNotrap
06.11.21 | I also predict Nate's face will start bleeding from 10 seconds into the first round. |
Colton
06.11.21 | I'm picking Izzy but throwing some money on Vettori by decision, I could see it happening. Leon is a lock though. One of the safest MMA bets possible. I agree that Nate won't be able to take the damage, and he's honestly just worse everywhere than Leon |
TheNotrap
06.11.21 | Smart bet. Everybody is sleeping on Vettori but he has a fair chance, especially if he can take the fight to the ground in the last 3 rounds. Izzy is favorite, nevertheless, I think that is something that we all agree on. |
Colton
06.11.21 | For sure. Vettori is a +200 dog. +350 by decision. Worth throwing a few bucks on but I still think Izzy is too sharp on the feet. Even if Vettori can get him down for a round or two, Izzy pieces him up on the feet. A lot of people are underestimating his takedown defence just because Jan was able to get him down in their fight. But Jan couldn't get him down until the last two rounds, and he said every time he tried in the earlier rounds, Izzy would counter and punish him for it. And Vettori is also smaller than Jan by quite a bit |
Josh D.
06.11.21 | Nate's face is the only thing about his fights. Instant exsanguination threatening early stoppage. |
Colton
06.11.21 | even if he wasnât so prone to cuts Leon would light him up in there |
TheNotrap
06.11.21 | There are other fights that should be interesting such as Paul Craig vs. Jamahal. I also want to see if Evloev gets a finish and if Chase Hooper has improved his standing game. |
Colton
06.11.21 | yeah, would like to see a solid performance from Maia too but I think Belal outclasses him honestly |
TheNotrap
06.11.21 | Maia is a legend on the ground, but he's like 90 years old right? To be honest I'm not sure what to think about that fight. |
Colton
06.11.21 | yeah he's pretty old now and never had exceptional offensive wrestling anyway (it's pretty good but not amazing) so I can't really imagine anything happening other than Belal outstriking him |
TheNotrap
06.11.21 | That heavyweight dude Carlos Felipe, I want to see his fight too. |
Colton
06.13.21 | Oh my god that armbar was absolutely disgusting. Probably the worst I've ever seen |
Deez
06.13.21 | Ref should be thrown in the sea immediately . Was gone for about 30 seconds the dickhead.
War Jewbear though , Up the Jocks! |
Colton
06.13.21 | Jamahal Hill is inhumanly tough |
Colton
06.13.21 | oh my god nate |
Deez
06.13.21 | Only Diaz could get dominated for 4 and a half rounds and leave the fight with the World acting like he won it hahaha crazy.
He could have finished Leon there but he was too busy showboating with 15 seconds left. Criminal. |
Deez
06.13.21 | YYYYYYYYEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS MORENO!!!! hahaha amazing |
Josh D.
06.13.21 | Iâll give myself half a point for the Moreno win |
Deez
06.13.21 | Great night.
Fans there again makes so much difference |
Colton
06.13.21 | just absolutely styled on him. So impressed with his grappling too. Nobody is gonna beat Adesanya at middleweight |
Deez
06.13.21 | I dont think so. Robs the only one with a chance. He deserves another show.
Also think Tills pretty overrated but Stylewise Izzy and Till would be a cool technical stand up fight. Probably be hella boring though to many. |
TheNotrap
06.13.21 | "He could have finished Leon there but he was too busy showboating with 15 seconds left. Criminal."
That was really dumb. It could have been one of the craziest upsets ever. |
Colton
06.13.21 | He definitely tried he just has very little power and Leon did a good job defensively. Crazy moment but itâs funny how some people are acting like Leon didnât completely piece him up for the other 24 minutes of that fight |
TheNotrap
06.13.21 | Leon is a fair winner, however if Nate had invested immediately after that punch, the fight could have ended differently. It was a dumb move on Nate's part. |
Colton
06.13.21 | I'm not really sure why everyone is saying that to be honest, rewatching it now and Nate actually does try to follow up right after he rocks him. He backs him up to the fence and throws a pretty hard combination. Leon just did a good job circling away and then clinching up when Nate tried to hit him again |
Colton
06.13.21 | he showboats for like 4 seconds after landing the big punch but he's still approaching him and trying to set up his follow up combination. He by no means let Leon off the hook |
Eakflanderyof
06.13.21 | I mean, 4 seconds can make a huge difference at the end of a fight |
Colton
06.13.21 | Leon was still badly hurt after that and Nate couldnât get the finish. Itâs not like he fully recovered after that 4 seconds. Great moment for Nate but itâs silly how people ignore the 24 minutes of domination from Leon. Looked amazing out there, easily would have finished any other fighter that wasnât Nate |
Deez
06.13.21 | That's Diaz fans and casuals in a nut shell. If Diaz doesn't get finished it's not a win. If Diaz loses 95% of a fight but finished like that he 'wins the real fight' they're as deluded as the brothers. And I like Nate. Those few seconds after he was badly hurt where crucial given Leon's a bigger buy and Nate's not a particularly big pincher. Leon wouldn't have recovered if he'd been pounced on straight away (in my view, well never know)although I don't think Diaz realised how hurt he was immediately. Leon did well to tie up and slip to get through. Thought he was perfect for 4 and half rounds |
Colton
06.13.21 | lol yeah pretty much, people latch onto whatever small successes they have in order to keep the perceived character of the Diaz bros alive. I can understand it honestly. Iâm just glad Leon got a good showcase fight on a big card and Nateâs stock remains high somehow even though he got beat up almost the entire time. Diaz vs Masvidal 2 is the fight to make now imo. Leon should get the title shot (or Wonderboy) |
Deez
06.13.21 | Conor does it with the fact he won 1 rd over khabib despite begging for him to stop the rd after. Gets into his minions heads and they repeat it.
Sounds like Dana wants Colby Usman next though. If that's the case Leon Jorge in England please.
Diaz masvidal or Conor next for me.
Shout out to the jewbear too. Absolutely savage. That ref should be shot
|
Colton
06.13.21 | People gotta find ways to cope with their favourite fighters losing, I can understand it at the end of the day. Would also like to see Masvidal vs Edwards but I donât think Jorge would even want it at this point. And yeah that was so brutal. Good reminder of how nasty jiu jitsu can be, especially if a fight isnât properly refereed |
TheNotrap
06.14.21 | In a nutshell:
https://youtu.be/lVA6rKr8V28 |
widowslaugh123
07.10.21 | Who you guys got for the main event tomorrow? |
Josh D.
07.10.21 | ugh idk...I want to lean Connor because he was landing in the first round last time. |
Colton
07.10.21 | I think the odds are even for good reason itâs hard to pick. Just excited to see how it plays out and what adjustments Conor can make |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.10.21 | Colton's dream is to be pegged inside the octagon by Logan Paul |
Colton
07.10.21 | a lot of the best fighters ever are bald pots. you could take inspiration |
hal1ax
07.10.21 | hoping for pourier. i think he's got it. |
Deez
07.10.21 | Think Conor will win. Hope he gets put in hospital though.
The schtick is so forced now that presser was embarrassing. He has no banter anymore so resorts to families he's a POS. He's also unable to deal with anyone asking about his defeats ala Rosey, just loses it. Mentally he's never dealt with Khabib raping him. But I still think he landed enough heavy early to hurt Dustin this time but if he doesn't get the finish he'll gas as usual . |
Colton
07.10.21 | agreed that he was super weak at the presser. He used to actually be funny and clever. Still think he'll win though if I have to pick. I do think he's the more skilled fighter |
widowslaugh123
07.10.21 | The fact that Colton would still rather get pegged instead of just fucked is way funnier for some reason
My heart is with Poirier but my head is torn |
Colton
07.10.21 | either way there's pretty much a 0% chance this fight isn't entertaining. Rewatched all Poirier's fights this week and it's crazy how aggressive he is and how he swarms people with so much volume. And obviously Conor has a really impressive reel of knockouts. Plus Thompson vs Burns will definitely be good too, O'Malley's fighting a can but will probably do some cool shit, and we might get to see Greg Hardy get knocked out (doubt it though) |
veninblazer
07.10.21 | Conor is probably taking this.
Besides tho, he has made enough money to never need to fight again. this is wild. |
widowslaugh123
07.10.21 | Iâm going burns over Thomson by decision |
Colton
07.10.21 | Thompson got me tickets to UFC 206 so I'll never pick against him. I also just think he's way better than Burns. He's gonna keep him on the outside and just pick him apart |
hal1ax
07.10.21 | if conor doesn't win in the first i think the advantage has to go pourier. unless conor's gas tank has gotten markedly better. he's always had pretty bunk cardio |
Colton
07.10.21 | he's not a cardio machine but he has more than 1 round in him |
TheNotrap
07.10.21 | My predictions:
Dustin vs Conor - Conor, by TKO
Burns vs Wonderboy - Wonderboy, by decision
Tuivasa vs Hardy - Tuivasa, by KO
O'Malley vs Moutinho - O'Malley, by KO
The Michel Pereira and Ryan Hall fights are also among those I'm most looking forward to. |
Gnocchi
07.10.21 | Dustin vs Conor - Conor, by TKO
this, but guessing there's going to be a fuel tank issue. Dustin's cardio coaches are no slack. |
TheNotrap
07.10.21 | If Dustin makes it to the fourth round, the fight is his. |
Colton
07.10.21 | Most likely yeah, not necessarily though. Conor took round 4 against Nate in their rematch |
Colton
07.10.21 | if Ryan Hall manages to do some typical Ryan Hall ninja shit to Topuria while looking like a malnourished software engineer undergoing caffeine withdrawal like he usually does Iâm gonna be amazed |
TheNotrap
07.10.21 | Hahah |
TheNotrap
07.10.21 | It's a shame that injuries, and the fact that all fighters duck him, took him away from the belt in his heyday. |
Colton
07.10.21 | really not sure if he's championship material honestly. he's really good but he's a specialist, in an era where more and more guys are becoming well rounded in everything. He's a pretty big underdog tonight |
Deez
07.10.21 | Most likely yeah, not necessarily though. Conor took round 4 against Nate in their rematch'
He didnt really 'take it' Nate took his foot off. One of the first times Ive seen him need a breath. He didnt need to do much to win that round and the fight since he win the last. |
Colton
07.10.21 | Nate was pretty clearly down 2 rounds to 1 at that point so he definitely did need to do something to win. I don't buy the argument of him just not trying. But Poirier's cardio is probably just as good and he has way more power so it could be a whole different thing if the fight goes that long tonight |
ReefaJones
07.10.21 | Jiu Jitsu specialists never do well in mma once they face real competition. They all suck at wrestling and Imanari rolls don't work against the top. |
Deez
07.10.21 | thats a horrendous take
I take it You mean guys with not much else |
Colton
07.10.21 | that is what specialist means |
Colton
07.10.21 | hurts to acknowledge reefa being right about something but thatâs a pretty accurate take for the most part |
Colton
07.10.21 | but also you have to keep in mind that Ryan has a pretty decent striking arsenal, heâs pretty sloppy but guys are so scared to get close to him that he can get away with it sometimes. similar to Khabib |
Deez
07.10.21 | 'that is what specialist means'
No shit Sherlock!! but with MMA its not that simple, You can be a BJJ specialist whilst also being or becoming proficient in other areas which many have. Thats a blanket statement when there are variables,Like a doctor, you can become a specialist in 2 different areas. Youre simply equating it to someone who cant throw. If Was big nog not a BJJ specialist? werdum? Serra? BJ? Anderson even?. Id argue they are all a specialist in BJJ that had other facets (some, big ones ) to their game (some over time) so its not the fact that they were or were not specialists in JJ but because they had other weapons aside/aswell as it. Its an oversimplification. People with NOHING else at all of course come up holding shit sooner or later. Hence 'do you mean JUST JJ' |
Deez
07.10.21 | Also someone start another thread. Can be arsed scrolling a thousand comments down |
ReefaJones
07.10.21 | Anderson was never a BJJ specialist. Ryan Hall literally sucks in every department aside from BJJ though so all your points fall short here. |
Josh D.
07.10.21 | I didn't know until yesterday that Pereira and Price were a match, that should be fun as hell. |
Deez
07.10.21 | No they fall short if I was using them to talk about Ryan Hall or even Damien Maia for example
Anderson whos been a black belt for 16 years and is a 3rd degree (i think now) isnt a BJJ specialist?? Gotcha. You can be a BJJ specialst yet also thrive in other areas, for me anyway (jacare KOs People) . It depends how strict/pedantic you wanna be using the term itself. For me any Black belt is a specialist in that subject. I know what your saying re: A Ryan Hall and his ilk |
Josh D.
07.10.21 | People just don't associate Silva with BJJ as much because his champ run was mostly highlighted by his boxing/kickboxing highlights. When you starch Forrest Griffin, Rich Franklin twice, front kick Vitor in the face, etc. BJJ takes a bit of a back seat. Even his triangle on Chael was a literal last minute hail mary. |
Deez
07.10.21 | Also caught in the greatest sub ever. Wasnt very special there
https://youtu.be/Cyth7pxQLuI |
ReefaJones
07.10.21 | lol |
Colton
07.10.21 | yeah Silva is not a BJJ specialist |
Deez
07.10.21 | If im a black belt for 15 years of anything Im a specialist. End of story.
Go watch his fight announcements with Buffer or whoever. 'A jiu jitsu fighter'
|
Colton
07.10.21 | I guess if you wanna go by your own personal definition of specialist and not the actual one then sure |
ReefaJones
07.10.21 | Demian Maia would have been the actual example. That's as far as a BJJ specialist will ever go in the sport but he actually knew how to take people down. |
Colton
07.10.21 | people forget because of how his last couple fights went, but Ben Askren was a very successful specialist. not jiu jitsu obviously but still |
ReefaJones
07.10.21 | tbf Douglas Lima is by far his best win and he almost got sparked by a washed up Robbie Lawler. Wrestling is far better suited for MMA than BJJ though when it comes to just knowing 1 of the two |
Colton
07.10.21 | yeah wrestling is probably the best skill to have if you had to pick one |
Deez
07.11.21 | 'Nate was pretty clearly down 2 rounds to 1 at that point so he definitely did need to do something to win. I don't buy the argument of him just not trying.'
Where did I say he wasnt trying??
He gassed, he said it himself he had rib injury in camp and couldn't get a second wind in the 4th. You can clearly see it. When have you seen Nate look tired? Hardly ever. Nothing to do with 'not trying' |
Deez
07.11.21 | Demian Maia would have been the actual example. That's as far as a BJJ specialist will ever go in the sport but he actually knew how to take people down.'
I mean. Big Nog. Matt Serra.???
Can you be a specialist in 2 areas/Disciplines? It's not exclusive to one is it??(is it??) Its just a primary focus of study/work/education/dedication. Your base/foundation/expertise. Doctors can specialize in multiple arenas. If Ryan Hall learns how to throw, and throw decently well does he revoke his 'Specialist' card? Unless Im getting Specialize and Specialist muddled? I agree JJ guys who soley focus on just that can only go so far these days unlike Royce etc back in the day But you have BJJ as their bread and butter and evolve in others over time to where you wouldnt call them a specialist in one because theyre multi skilled but their speciality is still and always is BJJ? No? Its more about the ability to side load other skills on top where is your talking SOLEY BJJ rather with nothing else Or is the word itself exclusive to one singular study of ONE thing? For real, asking , educate me, I suck with English being English. |
Colton
07.11.21 | Hall about to lose |
Deez
07.11.21 | Hall by Omoplata |
Colton
07.11.21 | and specialist technically means someone who excels at one particular thing and the word implies that they are not equally good in all areas, but people like Rogan don't necessarily use it like that all the time, but also it's pedantic who cares. bout to crack a beer |
Colton
07.11.21 | omg this fight is hilarious so far lmao |
Colton
07.11.21 | ok I had Topuria but that was just ridiculous |
ReefaJones
07.11.21 | Ryan "Imanari Roll" Hall. Told you he sucks |
Deez
07.11.21 | but also it's pedantic who cares.'
me thats why i fking asked :) |
Deez
07.11.21 | Hes so fking awkward hahah |
Colton
07.11.21 | BJJ guys worldwide are punching the air rn |
ReefaJones
07.11.21 | Dude said Anderson Silva is a BJJ specialist lmao. That's not what that means when we talk about specialists in the sport of MMA. Anderson can survive on the ground and that's all. Just because he has a black belt doesn't make him a BJJ specialist when he rarely ever used it. He literally ran from Demian Maia because he was afraid to do to the ground with, you know, an actual BJJ specialist |
Colton
07.11.21 | this one will be a banger |
Colton
07.11.21 | putting a small bet on Price as a +155 dog |
Deez
07.11.21 | He literally ran from Demian Maia because he was afraid to do to the ground with, you know, an actual BJJ specialist'
hahaa Yeah not because its the only place he would negate where he is stronger. They are both Black belts. Its called strategy/tactics/Gameplan. Maia is a black belt that never learnt to be effective in anything else. Anderson did.
' a BJJ specialist when he rarely ever used it.'
For the bove reasons, Many times he didnt need too. This would make big nog, which was my example, a specialist as I said if thats your bar??
Youre just being super anal about the actual word. Any Black Belt is a specialist in that discipline.
'That's not what that means when we talk about specialists in the sport of MMA'
Its EXACTLY how its spoken about! How 'we' talk hahah fuck off. Youll hear commentators say Specialist all the time to what your standards, are not specialists. |
Colton
07.11.21 | if you are well rounded in all areas you are not a specialist. idk why youâre so adamant about this when you just admitted in a previous comment youâre not sure |
Deez
07.11.21 | if you are well rounded in all areas you are not a specialist.'
If youre a black belt in BJJ and studyed for say 20 years
And youre a well rounded 3 year,decent Boxer.
Youre not a specialst in BJJ?
If thats right ive been using the wrong word for 20 years haha And Im ok with that. |
ReefaJones
07.11.21 | Yes you have been using it wrong. In mma, a specialist is someone whose entire game revolves around implementing only 1 martial arts. |
ReefaJones
07.11.21 | Wasn't that back flip an illegal kick? Why are they cheering him on for that? He should get a warning or points taken if that landed |
Deez
07.11.21 | as advertised indeed |
Deez
07.11.21 | the fucking state of Jared Leto. My mate was tour manager for his band years ago. Said hes a right cunt not suprisingly |
Deez
07.11.21 | Come on Condit show me you not ded |
Josh D.
07.11.21 | Holy shit what a chin on Moutinho |
Deez
07.11.21 | Imagine O malley got caught, Would be so great. |
Deez
07.11.21 | YESSSSSSSSS
Get fucked Hardy |
ReefaJones
07.11.21 | Tuivasa is a legend I want to party with that guy |
Deez
07.11.21 | Man, I love all the aussie guys. I did some BJJ over there in 2004 and there was like James Tehuna who would go on to the UFC,Brad Morris who had his debut against Cain fucking Velasquez hahah His only showing. Nakamura came over from Japan too.Mark Hunt was training there starting Jiu Jitsu they were all top lads even to us noobs never looked down on us. Always route for them if they seem cool. That was absolutely great. He shoulda knocked that dude out for the hot sauce tho |
ReefaJones
07.11.21 | they are psychos though. Swinging bombs in training with no head gear lol. |
Deez
07.11.21 | Yeah mad men, The ones with Islander or Samoan blood are fking mad |
Deez
07.11.21 | Fucking Karma. Getting smashed to pieces and saying he was winning. Showed his true colours at the end about his wife again. A piece of shit. Fk him.
Also though submissions dont count?? Went for 2 guiilotines hahaha Dickhead |
kevbogz
07.11.21 | YA FOOKIN WIFE IS IN ME DM'S |
ReefaJones
07.11.21 | I don't like Conor either but an ankle break is the worst break a fighter can get. Your mobility will never be the same again. Plus Conors style was always entertaining. Sucks he'll most likely never fully recover from this injury |
MO
07.11.21 | Insane fight, brutal end. Conor would've got finished in round 2. Those elbows from the top were savage as fuk |
Deez
07.11.21 | I WAS BOXING HIS BLEEDING EARS OFF |
Deez
07.11.21 | Honestly I love conor fights because I wanna see him lose and thats cool, he wants you to tune in if you love or hate him right? And its still exciting cos he has you investe one way or the other. The whole spectacle is great but fuck him. Seriously. I cant be arsed with that bringing family up like hes done with Khabib and now Dustin. His ego just cant comprehend loss, probably what made him great in the early days. But his heads gone. The state of him still screaming about dustins Mrs there. Dustin said he was making a gun sign saying he was gonna murder him. Hes a scumbag. DIdnt he say Dustin was leaving on a stretcher and he ends up doing. Karma baby |
Deez
07.11.21 | Dustin may be right too about the check theres a pic where (its not actually a check) but conors kinda far away and hit his knee. Could well be right. Thought it was bravado. |
Gnocchi
07.11.21 | That leg angle though. |
Deez
07.11.21 | https://streamable.com/ac9fia
that could be it where it goes initialy like Dustins saying. See he points at it. Said he knew something had happened. But he was still throwing kicks after that so I dunno. But it could have set it off |
Colton
07.11.21 | how long until someone makes a video of Conor saying Dustin will be put on a stretcher and then getting taken out on a stretcher himself? |
Relinquished
07.11.21 | best outcome tbh |
TheNotrap
07.11.21 | No fight should end like that, but this is MMA. Props to Du Plessis, Moutinho (tough as nails) and Pereira vs Niko fightđ„ |
Deez
07.11.21 | McGregor fights should end like that every time. The amount of karma in that fight was ridiculous. Same leg he tried to kick him with at the presser, said first one to shoots a bitch. He shot first. Said aubs don't count. Throws 2 subs. Only reason Dustin lets him get up is cos he's putting pingers in his gloves and herb dead doing nothing again and after they stand he snaps. Then he's screaming like an unhinged come head calling his Mrs hoe and making gun signs with his hand saying he's gonna get killed. Like ....fucking perfect ending for me. Was only gonna be one winner. Fk that arsehole and anyone who sticks up for his behaviours as "selling the fight' you can sell a fight withought bringing families into play . Trash |
chemicalmarriage
07.11.21 | 123 |
Eakflanderyof
07.11.21 | Mcgregor used to be just a good fighter and comical trash talker. I used to root for the guy. But damn, he's really let his persona and money go to his head. It's all been downhill since throwing the handtruck through the bus window. Last night was pretty sad to watch. Dude just sounds unhinged now. All that money and he is just clearly so unhappy |
Eakflanderyof
07.11.21 | But, if anything, the 70 dollars I spent was worth it for "kiss my whole asshole" alone |
Deez
07.11.21 | Dude I loved him when he first came in That cheeky irish scally, was exciting funny and had something about him. Exciting , brash but natural. Slowly he became a character. Smart. Floyd wasnt making the bank he was until he went from Pretty boy to 'Money' Make them love you or hate you etc etc but somewhere it morphed. I mean a young lad from a council estate with a few hundred mill youre gonna be a dick sometimes and make some mistakes. Thast whatvere. But the excessive aggo and negativity and kinda forced accent he does with the press.. Its like he doesnt know where the reality is anymore. Him and the act. Imagine being top of the world doing whatever the fck you want and saying it constantly over over. It seemed hed come to terms with it last 2 fights and grown up but now its all back. End of the day he was given a favourable route to becoming LW champ. One fight. Still his only LW win. He was a phenomnal FW because of his power and reach. Remember how bad his cuts were? But hes a band average LW. And now an extremely hard prson to like. Theres selling a fight, fine then theres consitently going well over the line. Dont have ANY sorrow for the way that happened. As Dustic said "Karma is a mirror'
That post fight interview wont age well. |
Colton
07.11.21 | I loved Poirier talking trash in his post-fight interview, completely justified. Also loved his wife flipping Conor off while he sat on the floor lmao
not entirely satisfied with the fight just because I wanted a more definitive win for Dustin and round 2 surely would have been entertaining, happy with the outcome though. Conor continuing to talk trash and insulting Dustin's wife after losing is beyond pathetic. His story is truly a tragedy at this point, not only because of the losses, but because of who they turned him into. Just look at his interviews after losing to Nate. Pure class. Now he's as classless as you can be. Like a kid throwing a tantrum. Him trying to set up the fourth fight and saying "we can fight outside" etc was like a guy saying anything he can to keep his girl from leaving him |
Colton
07.11.21 | also just wanna share that last night a friend of mine, only a few beers deep, earnestly and sincerely inquired "wait, are you allowed to hit people right in the nose in MMA?" during a prelim fight last night. Me and everyone else there instantly started laughing and making fun of him for such an absurd question. He is now pissed cause we made fun of him too much. He is sticking to the argument that getting hit in the nose hurts like hell, so if you're allowed to do that, you should be allowed to kick someone in the balls as well, and to claim otherwise is a logical inconsistency |
TheNotrap
07.11.21 | Conor should probably retire, nobody wants to see part IV of this fight and I don't believe he will fight someone like Tony Ferguson or Hooker. |
Colton
07.11.21 | yeah even if he wins, then what? a fifth fight? thatâs pretty ridiculous. that injury was brutal as well and will take a long time to heal |
TheNotrap
07.11.21 | Yeah, it's time to move on |
Deez
07.11.21 | Dustin's spoke like he was contemplating retirement after the last fight. I imagine he fights for a title and if wins maybe one defence and bounce. By then Conor might or might not he back he's gonna be out a year minimum. It's done. It's a shame we didn't get an ending but anyone who watches it can see at this time Dustin is the better fightwr. 2 judges had it 10-8!! I find it hard to understand anyone could watch his rant on the floor and still like him. He looked unhinged.
Diaz 3 or Manny for Connor maybe end 2022. Logan Paul's always there hahah how the mighty have fallen... |
TheNotrap
07.11.21 | Wonderboy should also retire, he should no longer get another run at the belt. He could stay on as the division's gatekeeper, however I don't believe he wants the job. |
Colton
07.11.21 | heâs in a weird spot now for sure. I still think he beats most guys at 170, but if someone is careful not to rush in on him and can get him down, it really shuts him down. Even though he looked good in round 2 and definitely took the round, he becomes very timid once he faces adversity in fights |
hal1ax
07.11.21 | The perfect ending: Conor heals and then fights Jake Paul and loses and then retires |
Deez
07.11.21 | Gets KOd by Jake Paul. The outrage would be glorious |
Deez
07.11.21 | OH AND FOR THE RECORD...
DC CALLED DUSTIN
'A JIU JITSU SPECIALIST' on his way the cage hahah so I'm in good fking company.
|
hal1ax
07.12.21 | Haha |
Colton
07.12.21 | Poirier is so clearly not a bjj specialist lol
|
Deez
07.12.21 | DC > Colton
Stfu
|
Deez
07.12.21 | wow so it seems Conor kicked the elbow on his teep kick on dustin just before the break. Kavanagh confirmed this
https://twitter.com/ARomeroXVII/status/1414274861669703683 |
Trundle
07.21.21 | Deez is the highest ranked 10 year old yellow belt, in bjj
His Highest Rank! |
Trundle
07.21.21 | so deez, you're a "world class grappller"
*i have sprawled into a D'arce choke but it's not working, i am still looking for a finsish
what do i do? |
Trundle
07.21.21 | Deez*
im stymed at distance with a harder kicker....
what do i do? |
Trundle
07.21.21 | so deez, wer're boxing
but i catch my parterner with at a stifff 3-2
what happens next? |
Colton
07.21.21 | what |
Trundle
07.21.21 | just ripping on deez and his steven segal belt |
widowslaugh123
07.21.21 | If someone tried to submit you on the streets couldnât you just like gouge out their eyes or something? |
Josh D.
07.21.21 | Have someone put you in an armbar and see if you can gouge their eyes. |
widowslaugh123
07.21.21 | Ok will report back later |
Colton
07.21.21 | you generally donât wanna go for an eye gouge against a trained grappler who could also just gouge your eyes, while knowing how to get in a position to do so |
Colton
07.21.21 | guys Sandhagen vs Dillashaw is gonna be such a banger |
Divaman
07.21.21 | I like UFC, but I think I like regular kickboxing better. I find that every time the fighters are exchanging punches and kicks and one of them suddenly does a takedown and they roll around for the next three minutes, my enjoyment level goes straight downhill. |
Colton
07.21.21 | casual spotted |
Colton
07.21.21 | nah thatâs true for a lot of people, but there are tons of fights that are just striking wars with almost no grappling |
Trundle
07.21.21 | if someones got your arm locked, you're literally grasping at straws with your free one,
but pulling guard in a street fight is fucking retarded unless you have a few buddies that have your back
|
Divaman
07.21.21 | >nah thatâs true for a lot of people, but there are tons of fights that are just striking wars with almost no grappling
Yep. Those are the ones I like best. |
widowslaugh123
07.21.21 | Iâm going sandhagen by decision |
widowslaugh123
07.21.21 | Oh wait itâs 5 rounds huh? Might be dilla by decision then |
Trundle
07.21.21 | ah, i wouldn't worry, that seems unlikely, widow,
TJ is 35, and *might* be on less steroids than he was before,
i think Sandhagen will take this but who knows, anything can happen. |
Colton
07.21.21 | i love how all tjâs prefight media is about how heâs accepted responsibility for what heâs done and heâs ready to prove himself again etc and then the fight poster is him smirking like an asshole. not to mention his tweets making light of how he cheated. dude wants to be a face and a heel at the same time |
Trundle
07.21.21 | hahaha, that could be a good way to sell the fight for him,
that's lifted from the Jon Jones playbook! |
Colton
07.21.21 | Iâm tempted to agree and say there are similarities there but by even acknowledging his wrongdoing at all heâs in a completely separate category from Jones |
Josh D.
07.21.21 | "I like UFC, but I think I like regular kickboxing better."
There are a good number of kickboxing specialists in the UFC though, including current champions. |
Colton
07.21.21 | yeah but eventually they fight grapplers and the grapplers more often than not can implement their style against strikers |
Colton
07.21.21 | wait what the hell lmao
what are these belts |
Deez
07.21.21 | Its crazy. Theres more schools that do it now too. 'Placeholder' belts many of them call it. Some instead of stripes and some as well as stripes. Im not down with it at all but 15 years ago what the fk did I know about it. Also considered our teacher was low level himself I think he didnt want the whole class surpassing him after 12 months hahah. |
Josh D.
07.21.21 | "yeah but eventually they fight grapplers and the grapplers more often than not can implement their style against strikers"
Yeah, that's why I like MMA more than kickboxing, for the matchups. I'm just responding to someone that's the opposite. |
Colton
07.21.21 | Yeah same Josh. The various different ways that a fight can play out in MMA is what makes it interesting and unpredictable. I'm just saying that the existence of kickboxers in MMA doesn't guarantee kickboxing matches |
Colton
07.21.21 | it's funny how a lot of the time when you get two high level wrestlers fighting each other the fight ends up just being a striking match (Usman vs Colby) |
Josh D.
07.21.21 | I wasn't saying that, but it's a bonus to have other styles. However, if he or anyone else wants kickboxing they can watch Jan and Izzy fights and see a lot more kickboxing than otherwise. Just send them a link to Izzy/Gastelum. Hell, even Gaethje doesn't wrestle and he's a wrestler. |
hal1ax
07.21.21 | it always confused me how infrequently Yoel took fights to the ground. he has probably the best wrestling chops of anyone |
Colton
07.21.21 | my go to link would be Hooker vs Poirier probably. Or maybe Choi vs Swanson |
Colton
07.21.21 | it always confused me how infrequently Yoel did anything sometimes. guy just let fights pass him by |
hal1ax
07.21.21 | haha yea |
Deez
07.21.21 | This though
https://youtu.be/WLY5tEb1R_s |
Divaman
07.21.21 | Don't get me wrong, I respect the skill of the grapplers. I just don't find them as enjoyable to watch. |
hal1ax
07.21.21 | the lull you to sleep and then explode on you style. but idk i rarely ever saw him wrestle and he was a world champ |
hal1ax
07.21.21 | anyone else excited to see Jiri fight again? his style is so interesting / fun to watch. like a light heavy tony ferguson but better |
Deez
07.21.21 | Specialist or not!!??
YOU DECIDE |
Trundle
07.21.21 | lmao off deez nice reddit post, OP got instantly roasted |
Trundle
07.21.21 | literal deez quotes itt:
"I lived in asia for 4 years. I trained at Tiger muay thai long before it is what it is now so I could say I trained at the place where almost every great MMA fight has trained now. Gsp,anderson,Shevchenko, I mean everyone trains there now and then, as well as all time great Muay thai fighters and coaches. Ive also done random muay thai and khmer boxing at tiny unknown places in those countries.
I trained BJJ in Sydney under Rezende who got his wings under Machacdo and his black belt under carlos gracie jnr in rio. He won masters and pan american he was a blackbelt when he moved to oz 16 yrs agos is that legit enough for you?
While training there nak,te huna,morris,hunt, also Paq and some semi known fighters boxed in that gym when they were in oz. Some olympic gold medalists etc. There was no BJJ schools in 2004 near me. I pieced up to yellow and stopped 10 years ago when i moved into the mountains. I dont even do sit ups anymore and am an out of shape old man. Ive still watched more MMA than anyone I know but dont act to be better or more knowledgable. I will just tell people to gtfoh where the try talking down to me about MMA. Not everyones a casual." |
Deez
07.21.21 | Hes absolutely right too. Everyone gets roasted for those Rainbow belts outside of that system. I think theyre dumb myself now, 15 years later. I told you early on I got laughed at by other BJJ guys afterwards for it.
Fact remains theyre not 'Made up' or "dont exist' They exist in the exact place I said they exist. The Lovato system. |
Colton
07.21.21 | you guys are both being cringe, deez mostly because of trying to doxx trundle and saying âmongoloid.â trundle youâve had some very questionable mma takes in the past so youâre not really one to talk tbh. the belt system deez is describing is kinda dumb but if itâs just an alternative way of representing stripes and you trained under legit people then who cares |
Josh D.
07.21.21 | y'all are starting to act like MMA fans now, cut it out! |
Deez
07.21.21 | Yes LITERALLY what I said, all of it. After you came in calling everyone casuals. Like people like you do. You asked 'What Id done' and thats what id done.
Also said "I have a non existent resume' and ' im the furthest thing from a fighter' but edit them out.
Trundle quotes pre thread and months before that post
'' I just love it when people talk about combat sports who clearly never trained a day in their lives.'
'if you knew anything about fighting or actually trained in it..'' But apparently IM flexing and hes not hahah
as well as 'I AM THE ONE WHO TRAINED WITH BIG NOG' hahha Fuck off mate. Not getting into all this shit hijacking this thread again. Everything I said up there stands.
|
Trundle
07.21.21 | world traveler who earned a white belt, better back off |
Deez
07.21.21 | doxx trundle and saying âmongoloid.'
hes not all there? cant be, he says you said something then you say 'Quote me where i said that!' and he quotes you not saying that and goes 'THERE' hahah what other word for it is there? He takes the special bus. No doubt about it.
anywayyyyyyyyy |
Trundle
07.21.21 | lol deez i copied the entirety of those posts, if anythings changed its cause you just edited it |
Deez
07.21.21 | I know I agreed with them. Every word.
Do you wanna fuck sometime??
|
Trundle
07.21.21 | no, i dont fuck kids |
Deez
07.21.21 | another lie |
Deez
07.21.21 | re: Kickboxing.
I dont really watch much. Some K1 now and then and some Muay Thai when I can or my friend sends me shit but I saw this the other day too. Its 5 years old so might be well known but its fking great. Last round is insane
https://youtu.be/TxyFzEES2Mg |
widowslaugh123
07.21.21 | I just wanna see usman vs Covington 2 |
Deez
07.21.21 | Looks like Colbys the only one to give him real trouble right now. Obviously Burns hurt him. See Burns called Leon out too, dude will never get a shot. |
Colton
07.21.21 | Leon is the only logical person to fight for the title right now. Usman vs Colby makes no sense. Burns is still 1 win away |
Deez
07.21.21 | I agree but ÂŁÂŁ$$$ innit |
Colton
07.21.21 | I don't think that fight even makes that much money. It does better than the Leon fight for sure but Colby has never actually been a ppv draw |
Deez
07.21.21 | Probably makes double Usman Leon depending on the card. UFC hasn't been about 'who deserves' for a long time. Casuals wanna see the schtick. Leon Usman is boring to the casual fan. Burns Leon is too risky for Leon on the cusp of a shot but if they make Colby first what does he do? Sit out? |
Deez
07.21.21 | Hope Leon Till happens in England at some point though too. Shit will be huge here. Till probably a HW before then. |
Colton
07.21.21 | I mean that's what both Jorge and Colby did and they were both rewarded for it with a title shot. Leon sitting out for a while now shouldn't matter given his resume and win streak. After the Colby rematch, they have to give it to Leon, there's just no other option. Who else would get it, Chiesa? He's not a draw either |
Colton
07.21.21 | Leon vs Till doesn't really make sense to me, not only cause they're different divisions but why have two of the only relatively popular British guys fight each other? Have em fight on the same card against people in their own divisions |
Deez
07.21.21 | Problem is Leon's had 3 fights in 2 years and one of them is a no contest. He sits out till say early next year's that's a lot of out of cage time to be then going into Usman or even colby |
Deez
07.21.21 | Dude they'll sell out a 60000 football stadium in the UK easy. Plus Edward isn't a big name here. He's not loved like Till is. It would be a perfect fight to make if Leon lost his title shot depending on where till is weight wise Leon would have to go up. But there's nothing in them at walk around weight
https://www.instagram.com/p/CRZiIaZBpVA/?utm_medium=copy_link |
Trundle
07.21.21 | Ww is bit of a clusterfuck atm.
Maybe someone's injured and their just keeping it on the DL. |
Colton
07.21.21 | yeah but he didn't look rusty against Belal or Nate at all. People are really underselling his performance against Nate because of the one punch that rocked him. He looked awesome. I know it's only Nate but still
and nah I honestly don't agree, that just doesn't make sense for him to go up a division and fight Till when he's on the cusp of a title shot in his own division. Plus isn't it more hype for the British fans if a British guy is fighting a non British guy? |
Deez
07.21.21 | Nah not at all. It's still big. And I'm not talking now, before a title shot I'm talking after if he lost. I'm talking if they are both top 5 but not on a TS soon or off the back of a loss TS. You Strike while the iron is hot in those type of stadium fights or you miss the boat. Amir khan and Kell brook would have been the biggest combat sport fight here ever but they avoided couldn't sign then they start losing or one takes big damage like Brook and that fights not as exciting any more. I mean everyone wants Joshua fury. The Brits love Brit on Brit fights. And Till and Edwards have always had a bit of back and forth especially at the Masvidal fight. Throw paddy pimblett in there in Liverpool you're talking mega cash. Till loses to Izzy and Leon to Usman. Where do you go?Give Leon a warm up at MW (Till actually constantly says hes not finished at WW) and 80,000 at Wembley. |
Trundle
07.21.21 | Colton's on point.
Leon vs till makes no sense |
Deez
07.21.21 | I wouldnt want it before Leon fights for a Title AND Masvidal tbh and maybe one more TS for Till IF he can get there. But it will happen. I just hope not too late. Im talking at the tail en dof teh next 2 years not, now.
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Deez
07.21.21 | People are really underselling his performance against Nate '
yeah pissing me off too. He was handling nate easily and semi switched off. Crazy how you can win 4 and a half rounds decisively and come out a loser in peoples eyes. Really want Leon to get the credit he deserves. Dont think he ever beats Usman though. |
widowslaugh123
07.21.21 | Colby vs usman leon fights the winner me thinks |
Trundle
07.21.21 | Colby has been saying a lot of stuff about Poirer and how their training sessions went together
Wouldn't mind seeing that one either.
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hal1ax
07.21.21 | does glover have any shot at beating jan? im thinking no? |
hal1ax
07.21.21 | also jon jones v stipe might be good? idk if itll happen tho |
Trundle
07.21.21 | Was thinking of the Jan/Glover fight today too.
two old dudes still givin'r
I'd say Glovers chances are much much higher coming into this fight than his first title shot against Jones.
I think Jan wins but Glover has been reverse-aging or something haha, who knows, he could shock us |
hal1ax
07.21.21 | haha. benjamin button syndrome fasho |
Colton
07.21.21 | Jan destroys him |
Deez
07.22.21 | Id lose my shit if Glover did it. No quite George Foreman territory but would be amazing. |
Trundle
07.22.21 | I nearly pissed myself staying up past 4am watching Aerts in the 2010GP
His rematch that night with Sem was basically if Rocky 4 was real
He was 40, and it was an almost a foregone conclusion that it would be schilt vs ubereem in the final
Peter obviously didn't get that memo |
Trundle
07.22.21 | Interesting tidbit: Sem dropped his sparring partner with a body kick
The next day, he died.
Dr's said it was due to an unrelated bacterial infection.
But you gotta wonder
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Deez
07.22.21 | Jesus. Never heard about that.
Fuck ever taking a kick off Semmy , man. That one he hit my boy hunt with. Evil |
Trundle
07.23.21 | Holy shit holy shit holy shit
Colorado just approved One FCs rules.
Hello grounded knees in prime time. |
Colton
07.24.21 | damn really? what organization though |
Trundle
07.24.21 | "One FC", where Mighty mouse just got KO'd, sage got 1 punched, Eddie Alvarez got KO'd
they're a Chinese based org, biggest org in Asia,, so their names are unfamiliar, but with their rules it makes for a fun time. no weight cutting too. Rich Franklin is the spokesman.
they also include Muay thai matches with MMA gloves in a cage which is pretty fun. |
Colton
07.24.21 | yeah I know I watch One but I mean what organization is gonna do it in Colorado |
Colton
07.24.21 | oh you mean they can show it on tv now I see |
Trundle
07.24.21 | it means that One is planning on hosting events in Colorado.
ngl, i never thought we'd see knees to the head of a grounded opponent in North America ever again.
i'm pretty shocked. |
Colton
07.24.21 | oh nice. I thought they were just staying in Singapore |
Trundle
07.24.21 | ya, this just came out yesterday! |
Colton
07.24.21 | who do you think would be the deadliest current ufc fighters if ufc adopted those rules? Makhachev would be a beast |
Trundle
07.24.21 | haha, probably still Ngannou,
I am really excited seeing people getting behind Islam, he's my buddy's favourite fighter
if it weren't for those fucking visa issues we could have seen some better match ups with him a long time ago |
Colton
07.24.21 | yeah, I think it might have benefited him in the end though |
Colton
07.24.21 | actually pretty hyped for todayâs card |
Josh D.
07.24.21 | Only two fights I care about: the main event and the one with butts. |
Colton
07.24.21 | if you could sleep last night knowing that Mickey Gall is fighting youâre a casual |
Josh D.
07.24.21 | lol what's his big win, CM Punk? |
Josh D.
07.24.21 | He lost to Mike Perry and Diego Sanchez. |
Colton
07.24.21 | he'll be champ by this time next year |
Colton
07.24.21 | I feel like there's a solid chance Sandhagen is just better all around than Dillashaw in terms of skill, plus the huge size difference and the lack of EPO, I think he might make TJ look like a shell of himself out there. Which I am very much hoping for cause nothing is better than watching TJ lose, especially now |
widowslaugh123
07.25.21 | Told ya itâd be tj by decision |
Colton
07.25.21 | TJ lost that fight idc what anyone says |
Josh D.
07.25.21 | When it ended I thought they would give it to Sandhagen, so I guess that means I thought he won too. |
Colton
07.25.21 | the most important scoring criteria is damage. Sandhagen without a doubt landed the more effective and damaging strikes in rounds 2, 4 and 5. Amazing fight but tainted by that decision for me. The whole event was amazing from top to bottom but the judges were so off. Barber vs Maverick was an egregious display of incompetence from the judges |
Josh D.
07.25.21 | The only thing I can think is that TJ improved after the first round and so maybe it looked like a momentum shift to the judges |
Colton
07.25.21 | the second round was his worst round |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.25.21 | Colton wants to be dap'd by Joe Rogan and Jake Paul in a kiddie pool full of chocolate pudding and jujubes so bad |
Colton
07.25.21 | actually wonder if Pots is taller or shorter than TJ lol pretty sure shorter |
Josh D.
07.25.21 | He picked up pace after though, no? |
Colton
07.25.21 | picking up the pace doesnât win rounds itâs about effective striking and damage which Sandhagen was clearly ahead in |
Deez
07.25.21 | Was 2-2 going into the last for me and the last was extremely close. Could have gone either way. I though TJ probably just did enough. Sandhagen lost a lot of pop in his striking from 3 onwards and was largely controlled most of those rounds. I'd have to watch again but my initial feelings where he's just done enough. Not enough to have a meltdown over no matter who won it. |
Colton
07.25.21 | iâm having a meltdown |
Deez
07.25.21 | I noticed |
Josh D.
07.25.21 | âpicking up the pace doesnât win roundsâ
Not on their own; judges all score differently. Iâm not saying he deserves it, just speculating how two judges couldâve given him the nod.
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Pon
07.25.21 | "the most important scoring criteria is damage" Maybe 15 years ago but judges seemed to have moved past this. I mean by this logic Ngannou won his first fight against Miocic.
It's because you have guys like Diaz and Bisping with loads of scar tissue who invariably look worse than their opponents by the end of a fight no matter how it actually played out. Hell, a lot of the time cuts open up because of glancing shots that don't put the recipient in any actual danger.
I understand the frustration with the judging but a nasty cut above Dillashaw's eye wasn't costing him the whole fight if he was able to continue fighting effectively in spite of it. |
Colton
07.25.21 | ""the most important scoring criteria is damage" Maybe 15 years ago but judges seemed to have moved past this."
no that's literally how MMA is scored according to the official rules which were revised like 4 years ago
"I mean by this logic Ngannou won his first fight against Miocic."
no because MMA is scored round by round, Ngannou clearly won round 1 because of damage and then lost the next 4 because he didn't land enough effective strikes on Stipe to negate all of Stipe's top control. He barely landed anything past round 1
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Colton
07.25.21 | I'm not saying Cory won because of the cut I'm saying he won because he outstruck TJ in 3 rounds, TJ had a grappling advantage but that should not matter unless the striking is completely even. that's what the actual scoring rules say |
Josh D.
07.25.21 | I do think takedowns and wrestling writ large is scored too much. For example, DJ won the second Cejudo fight. Cejudo had many takedowns, but did absolutely nothing with them. In fact, if I remember correctly DJ rolled right out of two of them. When you can do that against a gold medal wrestler, almost seems like it should swing advantage your way on scores. Instead they gave it to Henry and we had to deal with his bullshit for a couple years.
As far as scoring criteria, the reason I reference picking up pace is 2 of the 3 things judges are supposed to consider are aggressiveness and control of the Octagon. So maybe the judges saw him getting busier and it changed their scoring towards him in his better rounds. |
Pon
07.25.21 | The rules cite "effective striking" which is generally defined as the number of legal strikes landed. Visible damage like lacerations are factored sure but they are hardly the most important scoring criteria. Again, Diaz and Bisping examples.
But hey if I concede that it's damage done *per round* and the overwhelming majority of visible damage Dillashaw took was in round 2 and every judge gave Sandhagen that round then I don't see the issue.
I also know that Sandhagen outlanded Dillashaw in 3 rounds but round 1 was very close and the judges don't have access to the stats on the fly, so they factor in things like grapping and ring control. There's obviously a case for Sandhagen winning but its not as cut and dry as you initially made it out to be. |
Pon
07.25.21 | I think we can all agree that DJ was robbed against Cejudo tho, yes |
Colton
07.25.21 | "The rules cite "effective striking" which is generally defined as the number of legal strikes landed."
no they don't, they specifically state that the number of strikes landed is not the main factor in determining the efficacy of striking, and the commentators reiterate this all the time. You can land far fewer strikes than your opponent and still win the round |
Colton
07.25.21 | yeah DJ vs Cejudo was a bad decision for the exact same reason this one was |
Josh D.
07.25.21 | And then the UFC lost DJ after. The 5 second KO was a decent consolation. |
Pon
07.25.21 | "they specifically state that the number of strikes landed is not the main factor in determining the efficacy of striking"
You've gone from citing damage as the "most important" criteria, to then saying Sandhagen won because he out-landed Dillashaw in 3/5 rounds, that Dillashaw's grappling advantage shouldn't matter unless the striking is "completely even", only to then go on and say that you can land far fewer strikes and still win a round?
Alright dude, I'm out. You win. Here's your belt. |
Colton
07.25.21 | I never said it was because he outlanded him in 3 rounds though you just completely made that up? |
Pon
07.25.21 | "I'm not saying Cory won because of the cut I'm saying he won because he outstruck TJ in 3 rounds" |
Pon
07.25.21 | Am I speaking to an AI or something what is going on? |
Colton
07.25.21 | the fact that you donât know what âoutstruckâ means because you donât know the rules is not my problem. but also TJ didnât land nearly enough to negate Coryâs striking. the entire reason that someone can win a round while landing fewer strikes is because they could land a few strikes that do a ton of damage or nearly end the fight. like when Leon rocked Nate. or Yoel rocking Whittaker. this is obvious to anyone who watches mma at all
but in this case TJ didnât do that, so he landed fewer strikes AND was less effective with his striking overall and thatâs why he lost |
Colton
07.25.21 | *Nate rocked Leon |
Colton
07.25.21 | if someone lands 15 light jabs in a round and then gets dropped twice with two flush head kicks who would you say won that round? |
Deez
07.26.21 | Youre talking significant strikes compared to the opposite though there I don't remember seeing anything of note during that last few rounds that would negate Dillashaws general control and who landed plenty of solid legkicks himself and strikes in the clinch. Most of Sandhagens counter punching seemed to have lost all pop for the most part second half of the fight. All the big damage was done early apart from that back fist. I think that was later on, wasnt it? Not that he didnt land anything, he obviously did but Significant strikes were 41% to 45% so its not really hard to fathom it going either way is it.
http://ufcstats.com/fight-details/214b268e4a92f950 |
Colton
07.27.21 | itâs not just about the number of significant strikes landed either though. it calls into question, as commentators say all the time, how significant is a significant strike? theyâre not all equal. you can still win a round while landing far fewer significant strikes
but having said that, your argument here is reasonable. I didnât see it that way, thought Cory was landing more effectively through pretty much the whole fight, but at least your argument follows the actual scoring criteria of effective striking being the most important factor. I have to watch the fight again |
Colton
07.27.21 | I was going to link the rules for Pon but it appears he deleted his account? lol
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Deez
07.27.21 | Yeah it also goes on what the judges consider a significant strike. Or what anyone considers a significant strike. There isn't really a defined 'significant strike' per se. There's plenty of people like yourself who think Cory won that fight. I'm the same , I need to watch it again when I've got time in real time I thought TJ won 3-2 but watching it again I could change my mind which happens sometimes when fights are this close. I actually saw someone ,cant remember who, saying it's easier to argue 4-1 Cory than 3-2 TJ which was interesting. here's a real good interview with sandhagen and Luke Thomas about fight scoring today
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CR1VTR1jsdJ/?utm_medium=copy_link
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Colton
07.27.21 | nice I'll watch that interview later. And yeah you can argue 4-1 Sandhagen because he did more damage in the first round, especially with that huge knee. Can't believe he landed that on TJ honestly |
widowslaugh123
07.30.21 | Me thinks Uriah Hall by decision |
TheNotrap
07.30.21 | I'm late to the party but I think, even though it was close, Cory won. The judges who gave Barber the win should be thrown into the octagon with Ngannou (5 rounds).
I'm more excited about Pitbull vs McKee than UFC's event, to be honest.
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Colton
07.30.21 | Cory won 4-1. He won the first on damage, injured TJâs knee with a heelhook. But I canât blame the judges for not picking up on that right away
tomorrowâs main event is great. I think Hall by decision is unlikely given Stricklandâs smothering style |
TheNotrap
07.30.21 | It will most likely be a slugfest, but that's about it. The fight has little relevance to the division. |
Colton
07.30.21 | not at this moment it doesn't, but Strickland could easily become a relevant part of the title picture with a big win tomorrow and then maybe one more after that. Dana will fast track guys who fight like that while also having a personality like his |
TheNotrap
07.31.21 | Gaethje vs. Chandler added to UFC 268 đ |
Josh D.
07.31.21 | damn |
TheNotrap
07.31.21 | I doubt Chandler's chin can handle Justin, but it should be an absolute banger. |
Josh D.
07.31.21 | I was thinking the opposite too, where Justin can take a punch or fifty. |
TheNotrap
08.01.21 | Hall was totally outclassed. How a judge was able to give him a round is beyond me. |
widowslaugh123
08.01.21 | I donât wanna be a fan of Strickland but heâs sorta winning me over |
Deez
08.01.21 | Fking AJ man. Holy smokes |
Josh D.
08.02.21 | So what's the pick this weekend, I think Vegas has Gane, but when has Lewis ever really been hurt? Even Volkov pieced him up, but he made it to the end of a 5 rounder to get the KO. Plus we're from the same city, so it's easy to lean his way over a Frenchman. |
widowslaugh123
08.03.21 | Iâm going Lewis by 2nd round ko |
Colton
08.03.21 | Gane wins and makes it look easy |
TheNotrap
08.03.21 | Derrick Lewis vs. Ciryl Gane - Lewis, by KO
José Aldo vs. Pedro Munhoz - Aldo, by decision
Michael Chiesa vs. Vicente Luque - Chiesa, by decision
Tecia Torres vs. Angela Hill - Torres, by decision |
TheNotrap
08.06.21 | http://youtu.be/MY_3TY_Iass
đ„đ„đ„ |
Deez
08.06.21 | Absolute bullshit this is for an interim. Dana called them the best 2 HW on the planet. Such a twat. Think Gane gets it done
Praying Aldo goes with a w
Fedor's last fight announced too against Tim Johnson. Hope he does indeed walk after that can't stand seeing him sparked left right and centre anymore it legit hurts : ( |
Josh D.
08.06.21 | I've got the sleeper fight as Green-Fiziev. |
TheNotrap
08.06.21 | https://youtu.be/CDTXMWvFUUw
The pre-fight party continues |
Josh D.
08.07.21 | I made a few bets, and knowing how good I am at picking fights, I will not be betting again after tonight. |
Colton
08.07.21 | betting on fights is so fun, even if itâs just a few bucks. great card so far too |
Colton
08.07.21 | this is the 5th ppv event with some kind of bone break |
Josh D.
08.08.21 | I knew the Fiziev fight would be a banger, but Green shouldâve gotten the decision. |
Colton
08.08.21 | yeah I figured they would give 1 and 3 to Green but I don't think giving 1 and 2 to Fizaev is a bad call, and I had money on him so I'll take it |
widowslaugh123
08.08.21 | Damn josh good call that Greene fiziev fight was great. I could see how you could give fiziev the first two rounds but the judge that scored it 30-27 is an idiot |
Colton
08.08.21 | yeah the 30-27 was bad and yeah good call [2] |
Colton
08.08.21 | Tecia vs Hill could be good or could be pretty boring |
Deez
08.08.21 | that 3rd to Fiziev is insane ffs haha
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Colton
08.08.21 | I got Luque |
Colton
08.08.21 | think he's gonna crack Chiesa with something |
Colton
08.08.21 | that was beautiful |
Deez
08.08.21 | Yeah lovely stuff
Come on Jose!!! |
Colton
08.08.21 | he looks so good rn |
Deez
08.08.21 | yeah Great performance. Clinic. |
Colton
08.08.21 | Aldo as a BW contender is very intriguing. him vs Dillashaw would be great |
Colton
08.08.21 | lol at ppl thinking Lewis has a chance of winning this |
Deez
08.08.21 | Absolute domination. Superb |
Colton
08.08.21 | damn is Lewis ok |
Colton
08.08.21 | think he might have broke an orbital or something |
widowslaugh123
08.08.21 | Goddamn that was brutal |
Deez
08.08.21 | Yeah from that straight he took them looked to the ref like it was an eye poke (it wasn't) seemed bothered by it since that. That and the leg was too much |
Trundle
08.08.21 | Gane vs Ngannou is an awesome fight,
pretty to crazy to think that this footage isn't even a year old and they're already fighting each other for the title
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9CNmCDgIIw |
TheNotrap
08.08.21 | It seems Gane made it look easy after all. Great win đ |
Colton
08.08.21 | watch Dana have Gane defend the interim belt against the winner of Blaydes vs Rosenstruik because Ngannou asks for PPV points or something |
Colton
08.13.21 | some decent fights tonight, will always watch Rory and Gegard |
TheNotrap
08.13.21 | Rory vs. Lawler is a legendary fight |
Josh D.
08.14.21 | I might take a peek, I've just never enjoyed non-UFC promotions. Bellator is a hot pile of shit. |
Colton
08.14.21 | it is but Gegard is legit. would be a contender in the UFC (and was) |
Josh D.
08.14.21 | I do not like the PFL ref cam. |
MO
08.14.21 | Gegard is still a beast |
Trundle
08.16.21 | Gegard would give Israel a tougher fight than most of the ufc division |
Colton
09.04.21 | surprise 2pm fight card? don't mind if I do |
Deez
09.04.21 | Tonight's absolutely great GLORY 78 on now, Josh Warrington in the boxing and UFC right after. Settle in |
Pheromone
09.04.21 | someone make me excited for this event please inform me who i need to root for and where the hype train is |
Pon
09.04.21 | Root for Aspinall because he looks like a Monty Python extra who could take your head off |
Colton
09.04.21 | for the UFC card? the main draw would be Darren Till, he's probably the biggest English fighter right now. He's a prolific troll and a hilarious guy but also a pretty talented fighter. He's a technical striker going up against a relatively sloppy striker but with a grappling advantage. There's also another British guy Paddy Pimblett, who looks the furthest thing from what you would expect a fighter to look like. Making his UFC debut, decent amount of hype behind him |
Colton
09.04.21 | assuming you're watching cause it's actually on at a reasonable time in Europe? lol |
Colton
09.04.21 | Darren Till the type of guy to DM his opponent videos like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXvcjRNdAx4 |
Josh D.
09.04.21 | Thank you for posting, I forgot it's on super early. |
Josh D.
09.04.21 | I won a cool $77 on betting fights last weekend, I need to take a look at odds. |
Colton
09.04.21 | I made roughly the same betting on Jake Paul lol. Well not yet, cause I parlayed it with Valentina Shevchenko's upcoming fight, but we all know she's not gonna lose any time soon |
Colton
09.04.21 | Also is it just me or are the odds on Diaz vs Lawler crazy? They're damn near even. Imo Nick should be a huge underdog. I'm taking Lawler all day |
Josh D.
09.04.21 | Could be hard times for Lawler coupled with hype. |
Pheromone
09.04.21 | cheers colt, yeah i always enjoy a ufc event but 4am isnt the one |
TheNotrap
09.04.21 | It's all about the brit squad tonight. It's Dana's way of honoring Maiden's new release. |
Colton
09.04.21 | you're not a real fight fan if you're more excited for Darren Till or Paddy Pimblett than you are for Meatball Molly McCann |
TheNotrap
09.04.21 | Shore is serious business, didnât know this lad |
Colton
09.04.21 | he is. so is Meatball Molly McCann! |
Colton
09.04.21 | great card so far |
TheNotrap
09.04.21 | Meatball Molly showed a lot of soul, no doubt. It seemed to me however that she doesn't have a great footwork |
TheNotrap
09.04.21 | Let's see what Pimblett is made of. Looks like he came out of the 60s |
Colton
09.04.21 | that was a straight banger |
TheNotrap
09.04.21 | đ„ đ„ đ„ |
Colton
09.04.21 | his defence is questionable but he's good |
Deez
09.04.21 | hahahha YES Paddy, Thats what he does, Hes exciting but flawed. Hell never break the top 5s, Although he can improve hes still only mid 20s and weve seen people take huge jumps once they step into the UFC but I think he needs to move stateside for that tbh. Just happy to see him get a UFC win, Hes from teh same place im from, teaches the kids every week. Good lad. |
Colton
09.04.21 | Excited to see him again |
Colton
09.04.21 | I actually think this main event has potential to be pretty boring. Till is usually pretty timid when he has a lead, and I see Brunson being patient and not overextending. And if Till's not in the lead, it'll be because of a boring but dominant wrestling gameplan from Brunson |
Deez
09.04.21 | thats the thing isnt it? Sometimes its good to face a bit of trouble and come back like that. Makes people wanna watch you again. |
TheNotrap
09.04.21 | Well, that was quick |
Deez
09.04.21 | Yeah Till needs more output, hes technical but can look pretty gun shy. Defo could be a snoozer.
Made up for Tom also, Constantly looking great. |
Colton
09.04.21 | Wow, Brunson was beating him like 2015-2016 Khabib there. Definitive 10-8, could have been stopped. But then Till just got right up and looked okay. This is gonna be a good one |
Colton
09.04.21 | theyre both sorta gassed now |
Deez
09.04.21 | More delusions beaten out of Till |
TheNotrap
09.04.21 | Easy win for Bronson. Till has no ground game |
Colton
09.04.21 | yeah ground game was lacking, takedown defense actually looked pretty solid though and he definitely showed a lot of toughness. Don't really see him ever being an elite middleweight though. Dude needs to get on a new diet so he can cut to welterweight without nearly dying every time |
Deez
09.04.21 | He's just too big for WW his actually body frame. He's pretty terrible off his back, alarm bells where there with how easy and telegraphed Woodley put that darce on. He's technically sound standing but too obvious in that straight 1-2. Frustrating to watch tbh. He can tell himself he 'KNOWS' hell be champ as much as he wants..you know who else does?? Every fighter on the roster! If he had no online presence no one would give a fuck at this point. |
TheNotrap
09.04.21 | He has lost 4 of his last 5 fights right? He has to rethink a lot of things in his game or try to get back to 170. |
Deez
09.05.21 | I mean whos he beat?? Cerrone who was on the slide, A home town decision over Wonderboy, Gastalum???? His power doesnt seem to carry up at MW as well, That elbow he hit Whittikar would have most WW out cold ( I know its Rob but still..) He was a VERY big WW
Oh and if anyone hasnt watched Badr Hari and Wrzosek from Glory tonight watch that shit. Insane. |
Colton
09.05.21 | yeah the Wonderboy decision was a complete robbery and the Gastelum win was a split. You could argue he hasn't won a single fight in the UFC except against Cerrone, who hasn't won a fight in his last 6, so that win hasn't aged well. Yikes |
TheNotrap
09.19.21 | It's nice to see Smith back on track. Good win |
dbizzles
09.20.21 | Great performance, and love the call out. |
Colton
09.24.21 | Jon Jones was arrested for domestic battery last night. Story is just breaking now. Yesterday, the very same day he got arrested, he said "I'm gonna do more legally controversial shit to sell pay per views" during a media scrum. Absolute mess of a man, jesus christ |
Colton
09.24.21 | I know this shouldn't be surprising cause it's Jon Jones but I'm kinda amazed |
Pon
09.24.21 | Jon Jones is what happens when you trade sense for fight IQ |
TheNotrap
09.24.21 | No way. Who would have guessed? |
TheNotrap
09.24.21 | My predictions:
Volkanovski vs. Ortega - Volk by decision
Valentina vs. Murphy - THE GOAT by TKO
Lawler vs. Diaz - Diaz by TKO
Blaydes vs. Rozenstruik - Blaydes by submission
Andrade vs. Cynthia Calvillo - Andrade by decision |
Trundle
09.24.21 | Can't keep up with the Jones', I'm on my own shit
But srsly,
Can't believe we're gonna see Diaz vs Lawler II! |
Colton
09.24.21 | itâs insane. have you seen that interview Nick did with ESPN the other day? probably the saddest and most honest MMA interview Iâve ever seen |
Deez
09.26.21 | What a fking comeback holy shit |
Colton
09.26.21 | what did you get banned for |
Colton
09.26.21 | I got Blaydes by ground and pound tko |
Colton
09.26.21 | damn ok Rosenstruik lookin better than we've seen him before. dude's about to murder my parlay smh |
MO
09.26.21 | nick fucking diaz is about to fight. like what? |
Deez
09.26.21 | Hahah what a great rd |
Colton
09.26.21 | disappointing ending, but amazing fight |
Colton
09.26.21 | Hyped for the Valentina fight. Of all the women's MMA champions of all time (so far) she seems like the most 'complete' human being - by far. Skilled, tough, smart, beautiful, extensive world travels and has lived in the 3rd world for long periods, speaks multiple languages, tactical firearms training/enthusiast, dancer, film/arts school, actress, outdoorsy, etc.
You can tell she genuinely has her shit together, like she could probably be a millionaire running just about any business, if she wanted.
Are there any other female fighters that impressive? |
Deez
09.26.21 | He quit, lets be honest. Never thought Id see the day. As long as it went it was good though. The right fight to make too.
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Deez
09.26.21 | Are there any other female fighters that impressive?'
As Valentina? I though she beat Nunes in the last fight too, only seen it once though.
I mean theres only about 5 impressive women in the history of MMA though but yeah...shes a phenon |
Colton
09.26.21 | it's a copypasta but yeah lol |
Deez
09.26.21 | oh...Im too old for that shit, thought that was a weird post haha |
Deez
09.26.21 | Im going Ortega with the Upset, fuck it |
MO
09.26.21 | volk has been advancing the whole fight |
Deez
09.26.21 | Holy fucking shit what a round!!! |
MO
09.26.21 | this fight is incredible holy fuck |
Colton
09.26.21 | top tier banger |
Deez
09.26.21 | Awesome. Absolute beast Volk and fair play Ortega staying in there...barely. Great fight |
widowslaugh123
09.26.21 | Ortega will be back |
Deez
09.26.21 | Both those subs were locked , that was nutz |
Colton
09.26.21 | Nick Diaz vs Cerrone? |
Deez
09.26.21 | fuck why not huh. I think in his Head he should be fighting the TOP guys, Even that performance wont change that. Diaz logic.
Regarding Ortega, I dunno man. That 2 heavy beatings hes took now. You cant take to many of those in your career.
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Colton
09.26.21 | I honestly think Ortega has improved a lot since the Max fight, Volk was just on another level in every way tonight |
Deez
09.26.21 | I like Ortega, always have, Point is you cannot take that type of damage to many times before youre not the same fighter anymore, Just like a few KOs can turn a previous solid beard to glass. Its just to much damage to the brain. Happens all the time. Hope he can come back. |
Deez
09.26.21 | https://www.instagram.com/p/CUReIU1MS9R/?utm_medium=copy_link |
Colton
09.26.21 | I was there when he fought Holloway and it was insane to see how much damage he took in one fight. Holloway broke the record for most strikes landed in a fight ever. And now he had this war. Definitely took some years of his life but I'm still optimistic for his future in the division |
widowslaugh123
09.26.21 | Ayo no trap start a new list this shit too big |
TheNotrap
09.26.21 | Volk is the most underrated champ. Great win, crazy third round |
Storm In A Teacup
09.26.21 | So is American Top Team overall fairly legit or is there a reason they seem to be dipping into fake wrestling? |
TheNotrap
09.26.21 | Okay, I'll do that, widow |
Deez
09.26.21 | They legitvas fuck, one of the best teams in the planet. Yeah the pro wrestling things weird. Dan's good at though he must be a big fan too I imagine. Jorge is just cringe as fk at this point it's where he should be. Funny seeing Arlovski and Did Santos there too though. |
Colton
09.29.21 | ATT is very legit |
Colton
09.29.21 | they dip into fake wrestling because their fighters are good enough to build names for themselves |
Colton
09.29.21 | fuck Jon Jones. scum of the earth |
TheNotrap
09.29.21 | It's just Jones being Jones. Fucked up dude |
Colton
09.29.21 | did you read the details of the latest arrest? far worse than anything heâs done before and thatâs saying a lot |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
09.29.21 | Colton couldn't even make featherweight with rocks in his pockets |
Colton
09.29.21 | yeah cause I would be a middleweight with rocks in my pockets and the rocks in your pockets caused you to defile your left arm with the worst tattoos known to man |
Colton
10.09.21 | well that was probably the bloodiest fight I've ever seen, jeez |
TheNotrap
10.09.21 | Which one? |
Colton
10.09.21 | Damon Jackson vs Charles Rosa |
hal1ax
10.09.21 | any thoughts on fury v wilder III tonight? |
Colton
10.09.21 | I think Fury vs Wilder 1 was incredible, the knockdown/out of Fury and him getting right back up, after his whole backstory going into the fight felt like it was straight from a movie. I thought the second fight definitely settled the rivalry and I think Fury already beat him twice so the third fight feels unnecessary to me but I'm excited for it |
Colton
10.09.21 | I think Wilder coming in the heaviest he's ever been definitely doesn't help him |
hal1ax
10.09.21 | yea i agree about fury winning the first. he'll most likely win the trilogy out tonight as well. just hope it's a good fight. let's see if wilder figured out how to retain some of his power whilst back peddling |
Josh D.
10.09.21 | Fury definitely won the first, he dominated the second, and short of a lightning bolt right hand, he will dominate again. |
Colton
10.09.21 | yeah I'm definitely picking Fury to win but the fact that Wilder has showed he can completely negate all of Fury's skill and technique advantage with one punch makes it interesting |
Colton
10.09.21 | I think Fury won the first but I also think the ref could have called it the moment he got dropped in round 12. he was out for at least a couple seconds |
Deez
10.10.21 | Could of but rightly didnt, as he got up and won the rest of the round. For me personally the most important punch of those 2 fights was the punch fury landed after he got up. Its just been completely glossed over but Wilder was Hurt bad. Fury probably wasnt at 100% capacity to realise or capitalise but thats the moment I knew Fury could hurt Wilder and not just outbox him. Its why I knew hed go for it in the second as he said he would because he would have felt that or saw that too watching back. I cannot fking stand Wilder, Fury can be a bit of dick but hes real af, WIlders cheesball lines as well as the list of excuses from the second fight. His whole team fo cheerleaders are absolute cretins too. Wilder cannot learn how to box will Fury in such a short space of time. He can improve of course. I think Fury migh go back to outboxing him, I do just have this suss feeling WIlders gonna catch him though. I think he seems pretty calm and mentally in a good place. Furys had a chaotic ,short camp with his kid sick in hospital and shit. So many variables. Cannot wait. No betting on this though. I got a nice stack from Usyk but its a pick em for me despite Fury being FAR the better fighter there always that insane equalizer. |
Deez
10.10.21 | Furys right left after he looks like hes gonna get finished. Wilder holds twice and stops throwing.
https://youtu.be/QASG4p5yrxI?t=2974 |
hal1ax
10.10.21 | damn didn't know about fury's kid. hope they're ok. and yea wilder's nonsense about his walk-out outfit being too heavy and burning out his legs was fckin comical. agree though, no matter how much fury is dominating, wilder still has that crazy destructive punch power. y'never know. |
Deez
10.10.21 | Aye his newborn was in intensive care for a few days right at the start of camp. Late August I think. Shes fine now. |
Colton
10.10.21 | Wilder icing him rn |
YoYoMancuso
10.10.21 | you ever finger blast the octomom in the octagon? |
Colton
10.10.21 | yo don't talk shit about Michelle Waterson like that wtf |
Colton
10.10.21 | am i having a fever dream |
Slex
10.10.21 | jfc this shit is BRUTAL |
Slex
10.10.21 | and my boy Fury gets it again |
Colton
10.10.21 | that was easily one of the best fights of all time |
MO
10.10.21 | Unreal, massive 11th rd win |
Slex
10.10.21 | hands down might have been the best fight i've personally watched, but I don't watch a LOT to be fair
my god that was visceral tho |
Deez
10.10.21 | Incredible fight. Both deserve massive credit for coming through some of those rounds. Felt he could have finished that multiple times if he'd used his jab more and took half a step back from those clinches where wilder was hurt but wow...best HW fight in a long time. Wilder proved he's a warrior there |
Slex
10.10.21 | lmaooooo Fury fucking ROASTING Wilder too whew |
Colton
10.10.21 | there's no question about this one being an all time classic, that was some movie shit |
Slex
10.10.21 | so so so many big fights have been straight up embarrassing but yeah i wasn't ready for that one lol
Wilder can definitely hold his head high for lasting that long but I personally think they're kissing his ass just a bit, Fury beat the soul out of that man's body
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Colton
10.10.21 | Wilder got at least 4 CTEs during that fight |
Slex
10.10.21 | it was horrific at points lmao I was wincing hard |
MO
10.10.21 | Slex do you mean best boxing fight you've seen or best fight of anything? |
Slex
10.10.21 | best fight, like I said, I really do not watch a lot at all. Idk I just haven't personally seen someone take that much punishment lol, good luck to the guy |
MO
10.10.21 | Gotcha
Yea no kidding that was nuts. I remember watching Lawler v McDonald 2 which is my fav live fight experience ever |
Slex
10.10.21 | I'll have to check that fight out! |
Colton
10.10.21 | this was better than Lawler vs McDonald 2 imo |
Deez
10.10.21 | Nothing touches gatti ward 1 for me and probably ever will. |
TheNotrap
10.10.21 | Good fight. Fury probably won every round except the one where he was knocked out twice.
Dern was a disappointment. She needs to have more tools besides jiu-jitsu if she wants to fight for the belt.
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Colton
10.10.21 | @notrap spotted https://ibb.co/TYM0Hzb
and no he definitely did not win every round he clearly lost round 1, probably lost round 2 and Iâm pretty sure 2 judges gave Wilder round 5 as well |
TheNotrap
10.10.21 | I don't know who that awesome guy is but I agree with him.
Yeah, I forgot about that 1st round, but that's about it |
Deez
10.10.21 | Yeah Wilder won the first and the 4th obviously I think I gave him one more. Fury won the last 4/5. It wasnt a close fight score wise but there was always that threat of one of them getting sparked so every round was close in that respect. Was a little sloppy at times but the excitement and intensity was superb. I wouldt quite put it up there with Ali-Frazier 3 or Bowe Holyfield but its right up there. More akin to Foreman v Lyle |
Colton
01.22.22 | Ngannou vs Gane who you got? |
widowslaugh123
01.22.22 | Gane but Iâm scared |
Colton
01.22.22 | if Ngannou knocks out Gane then he is truly unstoppable |
widowslaugh123
01.22.22 | And same goes for Gane me thinks |
