lucasjcockcroft: Finally Beat Mass Effect 3

lucasjcockcroft 04.04.12	the ending was so fucking bad, and it wasn't what happened, it was that you get no reward, you don't get the last conversation with everyone. And the God child is silly as fuck.
Gmork89 04.04.12	Everything leading up to the last 10 minutes was awesome. Bioware is supposed to release info this month on what they are going to do about the ending.
lucasjcockcroft 04.04.12	they should have just kept it simply. You kill a "mother" reaper or something and they all die, and your hero. Would have been much better.
jefflebowski 04.04.12	the conversation you get with garrus before the final battle is worth completing the rest of the game for alone. so much bromance
ThroneOfAgony 04.04.12	NO ONE GIVES A SHIT
PayneTiger777 04.04.12	I would have preferred to go up against Harbinger instead of having that lame ass ending. I beat the game twice already and I hate how there is no real difference in what you decide at the end. Some people are saying that the part after Shepard meets the Catalyst is a dream, but I'm not sure. I think that the kid that Shepard sees is all in his/her head. If you remember first meeting the kid on earth, you see him in the vents and then he is gone, and Anderson doesn't even ask who he was talking to. Also, when you see him before leaving earth, no one bothers to help the kid inside the shuttle as if he isn't there. There are a lot of questions I have for the writers and hopefully some of them will be resolved in DLC.
sifFlammable 04.04.12	nearly cried in anger when I finished it spent 20 hours only to find out that there's no final boss, and didn't know how to choose the ending when so I die, my missus dies, everything dies and game over
klap 04.04.12	the whining about this game's ending has really been obscene
Trebor17 04.04.12	Ending is gay, I refuse to give them 60 dollars
Gmork89 04.04.12	The extreme whining ya, but the base level of disappointment is warranted.
lucasjcockcroft 04.04.12	"the whining about this game's ending has really been obscene" I've spent well over 200 dollars on this franchise and played for at least 60 hours, so yeah i expected them to give my Sheppard a good ending
Gmork89 04.04.12	Still worth every cent and the time spent in my opinion.
lucasjcockcroft 04.04.12	no doubt, i just want a conversation with everyone after i beat the reapers. Honestly, i'd be fine with that.
Shuyin 04.04.12	beats game makes sputnik list to let everyone know about it
lucasjcockcroft 04.04.12	^u so funny
DotEight 04.04.12	This really is old, getting sick of hearing people bitch about the ending. Yeah okay the ending was bad but like you didn't just enjoy beating a 30 hour campaign.
Gmork89 04.04.12	"i just want a conversation with everyone after i beat the reapers. Honestly, i'd be fine with that." This exactly.
Inveigh 04.04.12	dude that's crazy I finally beat Battletoads over the weekend
This Life is Genocide 04.04.12	ending blows. shame. fuckin terrific game overall.
Shuyin 04.04.12	that game is awsome, but it sucks in 2 player mode
Emim 04.04.12	"I would have preferred to go up against Harbinger instead of having that lame ass ending. I beat the game twice already and I hate how there is no real difference in what you decide at the end. " this
Sauce 04.04.12	sex with aliens so 5/5
Satellite 04.04.12	the ending is the biggest dickpunch in gaming history
sifFlammable 04.04.12	what the fuck is an action rpg without a final boss? what the fuck are the reapers there for if we can't fight them?
Satellite 04.04.12	the original plan was to fight a reaper-fied illusive man, but casey hudson decided it was too "videogamey" so they scrapped that plan in favor of SPACECHILD
jefflebowski 04.04.12	I honestly can't see how they thought that ending was EVER adequate....it just seems weird to me, that, after crafting a ridiculously detailed game trilogy which obviously required hours of painstaking work and planning, and then finished it off with the lamest, most cop-out ending they could've done
Satellite 04.04.12	http://threwmycontroller.com/subs/img/me3ending.png
jefflebowski 04.04.12	the hypocrisy is almost tangible
Satellite 04.04.12	http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10056886/1 so many lies
Devastator 04.04.12	Perfect ending: Shepard faces down Harbinger one on one and kills him, war assets depend on how well the other reapers are killed (and if Shepard dies). Either its hopeless even after Harbinger dies or the Reapers get there asses kicked and die. Shepard goes to live with his romantic intrest (if he had one) and settles down and he/she are next door neighboors with Garrus and continue being bros.
lucasjcockcroft 04.04.12	^so simple, how did they fuck that up
Devastator 04.04.12	@lucas cause they want to charge $10 bucks for the real ending only for you to realize that they went and ran the fan theory (Indoctrination theory)
Satellite 04.04.12	seriously, a boss fight vs. harbinger in london would've been totally plausible. the fleets were holding their own against the reapers in the space battle. it would've been easy to write something about how as the head reaper, the rest would be easy prey without harbinger bla bla bla. harbinger talking shit throughout the fight and having war assets actually mean something instead of being an arbitrary number would be nice, too.
KILL 04.04.12	overrated series glad u can all see it now hehehe
Satellite 04.04.12	dude kill i seriously wish i thought that way for real
jefflebowski 04.04.12	it pisses me off that up to that point, it was everything i'd hoped for
wabbit 04.04.12	I actually liked the ending being a conversation rather than just "shoot the giant thing in the flashy spot". I was cool with dying, as to avoid ME:4 (fuck you halo). But you should have had your squad with you because garrus is the fucking bro-king, you should have had better/harder choices (ie what they already did with the geth/ quarians) and not just be "fuck you everyone may or may not be dead" end credits.
PayneTiger777 04.04.12	Did anyone else notice that if you decide to destroy the reaper data at the end of ME2 it has no real influence on what happens in ME3? I wish that some of the decisions you make throughout the series would have a bigger impact in the end.
Ovrot 04.04.12	mass effect 2 made the reapers too silly Harbinger was way too personal when compared to sovereign Sovereign thought nothing of organic races and it made him seem like a much more grandiose and evil villain Harbinger used petty insults and actively took control of people to attack shepard. Kinda took away everything the first one did too build up the reapers.
Emim 04.04.12	I AM HARBINGER And yeah, stupid spacechild killed all momentum the game had built up to. You should have fought your way onto Harbinger on the ground, taken him down from the inside, giving ground forces a needed reprieve before going through the portal and kicking the Illusive Man's ass as he slowly realizes all his machinations were for nothing and he's just going to die a man. Then as you stumble slowly towards destroying the reapers, you could have brief flashbacks of all the teammates that died getting you this far. After you activate the crucible, show it spreading throughout all the relays and destroying reapers mid-attack on various worlds. Then a shuttle would land quickly with Garrus and other crew members rushing to Shepard to whisk him away to a medical facility. The fading shot would be the shuttle flying back earthside and Garrus giving a brief monologue detailing the losses and how civilizations would have to rebuild and briefly mourning the loss of his friends. The backdrop should be dozens of reapers burning up in the atmosphere. It's a bit lovey-dovey and cliche, but pretty much anything's better than the drivel they pulled.
Emim 04.04.12	tl;dr
ConcubinaryCode 04.04.12	Fans of Bioware sent the company 400 cupcakes because they believed they would do the right thing or some shit.
Emim 04.04.12	which only fueled them shitting on their fans
ConcubinaryCode 04.04.12	no it was after the game came out. it was like a sign of peace or something like that. to show that they believed they could fix the ending. doubt they will though.
Satellite 04.04.12	no, it was a playful jab at how bad their endings are. the cupcakes were color-coded (red, blue and green) with the letters a, b and c on them.
Devastator 04.04.12	Honestly there needs to be a bad ending/choice. Like if you didn't get all the war assets or if Shepard was a total d-bag there need to be consequences. Like everyone realizes that it really is hopeless and the Reapers cut down the army. Or Shepard really is indoctrinated and ends up like Saren. Then there could be epilogue like 50,000 yrs in the future where the new evil Shepard leads the reapers on the next cycle.
sifFlammable 04.04.12	"the original plan was to fight a reaper-fied illusive man, but casey hudson decided it was too "videogamey" " they actually said that? that would've been so much better - what the fuck does that cunt mean it would be too 'videogamey', what the fuck else does she think mass effect is? if it seems like im asking too many questions, that's because im BEWILDERED motherfucking bioware cunts
patman1001 04.04.12	idk i just wanna see Tali naked
Satellite 04.04.12	http://i.imgur.com/YyFsR.jpg actually it was mac walters (the head writer) who said that
wabbit 04.04.12	I also didn't like how at the ending they try and make the reapers look like not such bad guys cause they already did that and I want someone to hate
Satellite 04.04.12	yeah, i mean the explanation for what the reapers are made sense to me, but i'd prefer to not know what their purpose is because ultimately it doesn't matter.
wabbit 04.04.12	Yah it made too much sense. They repeatedly said "our mission is beyond your comprehension" but then they explain it and it takes about half a paragraph and I was like "well that is a dick move but it's logical". It would have been way better if that wasn't cleared up and the final decision was essentially A.) help the illusive man control the reapers B.) kill the illusive man and the reapers then just add some dynamics to those choices (maybe a third one) to make it a tough chose.
Satellite 04.04.12	adding a brand new conflict at the end of the story* is pretty much something anyone who's ever taken a high school lit class should know is a mistake. how the whole starchild thing made it past the drawing board is so beyond me. ugh. *let alone not resolving said conflict
Emim 04.05.12	"then just add some dynamics to those choices (maybe a third one) to make it a tough chose. " like fornicating with the reapers and repopulating the galaxy with uber beings
feav233 04.05.12	thought about gettin mass effect 3 but bought fallout 3 and me2 at the same time, played fallout then skyrim came out, still haven't opened me2
Satellite 04.05.12	you definitely need to play me1 and me2 first
Emim 04.05.12	I think you can get by easily enough with just me2 considering how much they reference the first one.
feav233 04.05.12	roommate told me not to bother with me1, but pry open open me2 soon, just bought mlb 2k12 tho since the tigers should be fucking sweet so ill be sharing time
sifFlammable 04.05.12	im still thinking of replaying it on insanity but seriously
This Life is Genocide 04.05.12	been playin multiplayer like a boss recently. pretty addicting
Satellite 04.05.12	360? add me yo: elitesalt
DarthMann 04.05.12	apparantley this was like the best game ever up until the ending i dont get how i can be that bad but whatever i have a wii i play mariokart
Satellite 04.05.12	if it weren't such a great game people wouldn't be complaining about the endings
Emim 04.05.12	i went to go play multiplayer yesterday and of course it's another stupid ass game that needs an online activation.
Satellite 04.05.12	http://consumerist.com/2012/04/congratulations-ea-you-are-the-worst-company-in-america-for-2012.html
DarthMann 04.05.12	i was lying i play nba2k10 on the hardest difficulty and win by 30 points against all teams except fucking houston
Emim 04.05.12	"Traditionally, the Poo has been delivered on its little red pillow. But this year, we'll give EA three different color options for its pillow, though in the end it's still the same old Poo." ah ah ah
Gmork89 04.05.12	Well it's announced, free DLC this summer to provide more closure.
Gmork89 04.05.12	"With the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut we think we have struck a good balance in delivering the answers players are looking for while maintaining the team's artistic vision for the end of this story arc in the Mass Effect universe"- Ray Muzyka
jefflebowski 04.05.12	this is bad news either way - if it's a new release to answer to fan discontent, then they screwed up majorly and are less competent than we thought. I fit was planned all along, it makes them lying bastards for all the claims they made before the main game's release
Gmork89 04.05.12	It's just cut-scenes supposedly, it isn't new game play.
lucasjcockcroft 04.05.12	that would explain why its free.
Devastator 04.05.12	So they added cutscenes? So it's the same ending but they tell you what happened to everyone? Did they not listen when we said our choices didn't matter?
This Life is Genocide 04.05.12	sounds good to me. hope it doesn't suck.
Satellite 04.06.12	they didn't necessarily say it's going to be all cutscenes. yeah, if it sucks i'm done with bw.
Trebor17 04.06.12	They fucked up hard with dragon Age 2 so I should have seen this coming
wabbit 04.06.12	I dunno dragon age 2 wasn't without fault but the ending was actually pretty good
Satellite 04.06.12	dao was pretty shittastic (although i only played the 360 version) so i didn't bother with da2
KILL 04.06.12	dao was awesome wtf 2 was shit though yea
Satellite 04.06.12	my bro plays it on the pc and it looks 10x better. it's borderline unplayable on the 360.
Trebor17 04.06.12	I've had dao for like 3 years but I keep forgetting to play it
lucasjcockcroft 04.06.12	dao fucking ruled, never bothered with the second one
wabbit 04.06.12	the combat is really satisfying on the highest difficulty (except for guys respawning every fight) and it has a couple cool characters but it's pretty bland for the most part, and the guy you play as is a cocky cunt.
sifFlammable 04.06.12	i mean the story is memorable (i remember the agony i had to go through after killing mordin), the soundtrack is killer (eg reaper BRRRRRR) uggh
Satellite 04.06.12	you killed mordin?! fuck you.
This Life is Genocide 04.06.12	only renegade option is to kill Mordin I think
Satellite 04.06.12	most of the renegade options in me3 are straight up evil (e.g. killing samara's daughter after letting her commit suicide) i did, however, use the renegade interrupt to fucking destroy the dying reaper on rannoch.
This Life is Genocide 04.06.12	yeah goin full renegade sucks hard basically murder Wrex and Mordin in cold blood.
Emim 04.06.12	You also get to shoot Ashley.
Satellite 04.06.12	new mp shit looks pretty cool. playing as a geth will be fun. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7dUTY04B_M free, too.
KILL 04.06.12	since when does MS allow free dlc
Wolfhorde 04.06.12	"Yah it made too much sense. They repeatedly said "our mission is beyond your comprehension" but then they explain it and it takes about half a paragraph and I was like "well that is a dick move but it's logical"." Pretty simplistic though. Also at that part I almost started laughing because the plot really became ridiculous. (talk about "too videogamey", like going Hollywood steretoype is a better idea)
Emim 04.06.12	that harpoon gun looks pretty badass
sifFlammable 04.06.12	if i had to guess, i think the whole opposition to the "videogamey" idea the directors had was that maybe they tried to make it a bit too cinematic (i noticed that there was a 'story mode' option at the beginning) dumb move though
sifFlammable 04.06.12	^i mean they also had action mode but that was clearly not on the agenda with the no boss issue and all
Wolfhorde 04.06.12	Was kind of predictable though. The plot already started to deteriorate in ME2.
SexPanther 04.06.12	i dont understand why everyone is bitching, its not even that bad.
Satellite 04.06.12	yeah it. so so many plotholes. i'm confident that the dlc will fix it, though.
Wolfhorde 04.06.12	Kinda doubt that, unless that DLC is going to be big. Also, until that's out people will probably be busy with D3.
Satellite 04.06.12	they're spending all summer working on it. and they know that they can't afford to fuck it up.
Satellite 04.06.12	"Still summer release - going to put in the time and the effort that it takes, not going to rush it. More than just a few cinematic scenes - definitely a considerable amount."
Wolfhorde 04.06.12	Depending how you define "can't afford to fuck it up", can't afford to fuck it up unless they want to lose their fanbase? Yeah, probably. But financially? As part of EA they could give less of a fuck. But oh well, imo it was not just the ending that was a bit weird plotwise. (also, the resemblence of christian mythology/"superstition" made me chuckle)
ConsiderPhlebas 04.06.12	Have they completely disavowed the indoctrination theory? It seemed pretty compelling. Saw something yesterday about the actress-Shepard saying she hadn't been asked to do any more lines, but she said nothing about lines not included...
Gmork89 04.06.12	I haven't heard any comment from bioware about the indoctrination theory. It definitely fits but it seems a little far fetched to be the actual case.
Trebor17 04.06.12	It doesn't matter if it's true, it's still a shitty ending
Devastator 04.06.12	If they run with the indoctrination theory I would be fine with that. That means they have to include more gameplay like a final fight with Harbinger and maybe having assets meaning something. Oh and Shepard living I'd like that too.
Wolfhorde 04.06.12	"final fight with Harbinger and maybe having assets meaning something" They actually do, they affect the ending in "subtle" ways. Although the ending is still mostly the same and the changes are pretty lame and uninspired.
Trebor17 04.06.12	I heard that there will be DLC where you have to rebuild Shepard, and then you play as Shepard as he flys around in his pet reaper segregating people like the geth and the quarians like some future redneck or some shit Sounds gay as fuck, hope it's not true
ConsiderPhlebas 04.06.12	I didn't get the ending where you see him alive on Earth in the rubble, but I've seen the clip. Seems certain they planned some free dlc all along. Still would have preferred a real ending on disc, but it'd be better than them losing the ability to write altogether.
Wolfhorde 04.06.12	@Trebor: What? For what the shit... they could've just pulled the "stereotypical hero card" and it probably would've made more sense/had been more apropriate than an afterfix like that.
Devastator 04.06.12	I kind of want a definate good and evil ending. Like if Shepard was a total renegade and didn't help anyone he gives into the reapers and helps them finish the cycle. Then like 50000 yrs later he helps lead the reapers on the next cycle.
Satellite 04.06.12	@treb: that turned out to be a hilarious rumor started on /v/
Wolfhorde 04.06.12	The whole "morality" thing actually got pretty idiotic in the long run. I mean why not just give the player fucking choices, not good, not bad. Just fucking causal choices.
sifFlammable 04.06.12	yeah i really dont think there was enough of the reaper indoctrination power in play in the plot reaperfied illusive man or harbinger please
Wolfhorde 04.06.12	The plot generally felt like there were some concepts (sometimes pretty good) touched and then just left alone.
Trebor17 04.06.12	The whole point of Mass Effect was being a good guy, you can do things in questionable way but you're still good, but then it's like nope you were bad the whole time fuck you the end
Wolfhorde 04.06.12	There is also no mention who built the reapers/their "ancestors" in the first place, why Sheppard isn't fragged or who/what race that kid's s'posed to resemble except for "I'm god and I work in mysterious way, oh btw you've pulled the short straw either way"
Gmork89 04.06.12	I would be fine just knowing everybody made it back to their systems safely and led lives after the reapers were destroyed. Leaving it up in the air was the worst part.
lucasjcockcroft 04.10.12	I heard that their making other games in the same "mass effect" universe, so maybe the story will continue, just from the eyes of another character.
fish. 04.10.12	"you don't get the last conversation with everyone" yes you do, before going into no man's land but yeah, ending made no sense really. someone on another side described it well- wasn't really an ending, just a point where the story stopped being told game was awesome otherwise. easily matched the previous two
fish. 04.10.12	honestly though, I would have disliked an "all bad guys died, all good guys live, no problems for future inc. ignoring why the reapers were there in the first place" ending. it's about the story as a whole anyway. yeah the ending was bad, but people are massively overreacting
Emim 04.10.12	"I mean why not just give the player fucking choices, not good, not bad. Just fucking causal choices." like what? eating a toaster strudel instead of a pop tart?