BigHands: Espn = Liberal Pansies

BigHands 10.04.11	poor poor Barry Obama. I mean, I could understand if hank had N-bombed him or something but he didn't.
Spec 10.04.11	Thats pretty weak.
theacademy 10.04.11	this was really gay but don't call ESPN "Liberal" because its insulting to actual liberals.
BloodSweatandBeers 10.04.11	"Hank compared Barry Obama to Hitler, indirectly" regardless if it was indirect or not that kind of thing should be kept off the air, its called being classy, not a dick, so good riddance
BigHans 10.04.11	who gives a shit? It didn't have anything to do with ESPN. Academy, sorry, but this is not something a conservative would bitch about, even if it was about one of their own guys. Political correctness is absolutely a liberal archetype.
Crysis 10.04.11	meh just because they don't want someone comparing someone else to hitler doesn't mean they're liberal
Winsomniac 10.04.11	This is kind of just weird. Who gets that offended? Like are we honestly now in a society where you actually have to distance yourself as much as possible from people with opinions that differ from our own? Bummer.
americanmusicmachine 10.04.11	Hank should really not talk politics cuz he cleary had no idea what the fuck he was sayin' in that whole fox and friends segment (although he was still better than the actual fox and friends hosts) but really espn the man's there to sing about preparing to watch monday night football, he's not there to enlighten us or whatever. but yh "family tradition" and "country boy can survive" = lifetime pass. So he can be a republican shill and it ain't no big deal to me.
Winsomniac 10.04.11	What exactly is a shill?
WatchItExplode 10.04.11	I saw Hank live once and he was by far the drunkest person at the event. Good times. This made me lol hard^^ Hank's theme may be iconic, but that doesn't make it any less annoying.
americanmusicmachine 10.04.11	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill It's not the best word I really meant he jumped on the whole tea party thing which would annoy me if he didn't have that lifetime pass.
eternium 10.04.11	Hitler comparisons are easy to make and stupid. Compare our president to a man that led to tens of millions of deaths via war and genocide. Political correctness is changing the world "black man" to "African-American,"not this. Hank doesn't have that many good songs anyway, his father and his son are multitudes more respectable than that sell out.
omnipanzer 10.04.11	Sup Hans
BloodSweatandBeers 10.04.11	"Hitler comparisons are easy to make and stupid. Compare our president to a man that led to tens of millions of deaths via war and genocide. " yea but the vast majority of americans have no idea what theyre talking about and latch on to whatever the fuck spews out of fox news, which is basically "oh free health care for everyone, thats too fair, if everyone is taken care of thats socialism, who was socialist? hitler!!"
Vesper 10.04.11	'Hitler comparisons are easy to make and stupid. Compare our president to a man that led to tens of millions of deaths via war and genocide. Political correctness is changing the world "black man" to "African-American,"not this.' 123
eternium 10.04.11	And so Hank Jr. is one of those idiots, obviously.
BigHans 10.04.11	I guarentee if Hank wouldve called George Dubya "hitler" when he was in office ESPN wouldn't have pulled it.
omnipanzer 10.04.11	A shill, plant or stooge is a person who helps a person or organization without disclosing that he or she has a close relationship with that person or organization.
eternium 10.04.11	"I guarentee if Hank wouldve called George Dubya "hitler" when he was in office ESPN wouldn't have pulled it." You're proposing a scenario that cannot be tested.
omnipanzer 10.04.11	"I guarentee if Hank wouldve called George Dubya "hitler" when he was in office ESPN wouldn't have pulled it." Right because the Dixie Chicks did't get fucked in the most bull shit way possible...
BigHans 10.04.11	Political correctness goes far beyond calling a black man an "African American." It represents pretty much any minority group getting their panties in a bunch while still thinking its perfectly ok to rag on white males.
eternium 10.04.11	Oh please, minorities that talk crap about white males get just as much crap. The problem is that it's usually the other way around the vast majority of the time.
omnipanzer 10.04.11	"its perfectly ok to rag on white males." In the immortal words of Louis C.K. "I'm a white male... you can't even hurt my feelings" Stop being a pussy.
omnipanzer 10.04.11	"I'm a white man, you can't even hurt my feelings. What can you really call a white man that really digs deep? Hey cracker … oh ruined my day."
theacademy 10.04.11	hans i think youre stretching this whole thing out a bit ... ESPN is a corporation (owned by another corporation, that happens to be named for one of the most famous anti-semites in history). This is public relations.
BigHans 10.04.11	Oh please, minorities that talk crap about white males get just as much crap. The problem is that it's usually the other way around the vast majority of the time. ^ You must be joking.
BigHans 10.04.11	hans i think youre stretching this whole thing out a bit ... ESPN is a corporation (owned by another corporation, that happens to be named for one of the most famous anti-semites in history). This is public relations. ^ haha Acad, yeah I was bored, wanted to hear some opinions. But honestly shit like this just pisses me off. And not just because I think Hank rules.
Crysis 10.04.11	gotta side with hans on this one
eternium 10.04.11	1. Say something racist/sexist/otherwise fucked up 2. Receive backlash for it 3. Complain about political correctness in the media
wabbit 10.04.11	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXHq0F4nG5A "It's political gone mad stew"
omnipanzer 10.04.11	Espn = Greedy Republican corporation. I can make equal arguments going the other way. Corporations have been overly sensitive since the Janet Jackson incident that FCC took as an opportunity to bring cable T.V. (a payed service) more in line with the religious right's ideal of appropriate programming (lead by Bush cabinet hand picked indevidual).
theacademy 10.04.11	dont get me wrong, i was ripping into ESPN to just about everyone last night... its a first amendment thing...
klap 10.04.11	pretty cut and dried PR move
omnipanzer 10.04.11	"haha Acad, yeah I was bored, wanted to hear some opinions. But honestly shit like this just pisses me off. And not just because I think Hank rules." Shit, too late.
BallsToTheWall 10.04.11	Making a Hitler comparison in the workforce is probably the stupidest thing a man could do. It's called common sense I dont care who you are.
BigHans 10.04.11	Omni, I get what you are saying, but theres a difference between censoring nudity on live TV in an event that 500 million people are watching verus censoring something because of an off-hand comment on a totally different show talking about golf.
eternium 10.04.11	How is it a first amendment thing? ESPN isn't funded by the government, it's part of a private corporation.
MO 10.04.11	Knew this was a hans list.
jefflebowski 10.04.11	still don't see how this makes ESPN liberal
AngelofDeath 10.04.11	The real question is "Should anyone care this much?"
Vesper 10.04.11	Hans, no matter how much crap we minorities talk about you white males, the fact is that you guys are still at the top of the social pyramid like you have been for most of recent human history. I understand perfectly that racism can go both ways, but, for the most part, minorities fighting for equal rights aren't trying to put white males through a guilt trip. It can easily be construed that way, however. Personally, I don't think ESPN should have pulled his song for making a Hitler comparison. It doesn't make it any less of an uneducated, dick thing to say.
omnipanzer 10.04.11	"Omni, I get what you are saying, but theres a difference between censoring nudity on live TV in an event that 500 million people are watching verus censoring something because of an off-hand comment on a totally different show talking about golf." Nah it's been an over all tightening down of censorship that started with that fucking domino. Fuck I hate kids. Religious groups use them as their playing card every damn time. Guess what, I have a kid and I don't have cable because I don't think it's appropriate now give me back my sweet ass edgy shows with sex and nudity MOTHERFUCKERS!
BigHans 10.04.11	still don't see how this makes ESPN liberal ^ Because Typical stuffy liberal in response to this: Good, we can't have this unfeeling, insensitive redneck talking shit about our guy. Good riddance. Typical redneck conservative response to this: Are you fucking kidding me? Goddamn pussies. Hank rules.
omnipanzer 10.04.11	The real question is "Should anyone care this much?" boredom will make me care about a lot of shit. ;^)
eternium 10.04.11	I think MOST people would agree that comparing Obama to Hitler is fucking dumb. It's not a liberal thing.
BigHans 10.04.11	Vesper, I'm not condoning a white man acting like a racist. Im just saying a white man acting racist has approximately 1,965,456 times more backlash value than a minority acting racist towards a white man.
DominionMM1 10.04.11	still don't see how this makes ESPN liberal Because if you make an off-color remark on, say, foxnews, they give you your own show instead of being taken off the air.
BloodSweatandBeers 10.04.11	"^ Because Typical stuffy liberal in response to this: Good, we can't have this unfeeling, insensitive redneck talking shit about our guy. Good riddance. Typical redneck conservative response to this: Are you fucking kidding me? Goddamn pussies. Hank rules." gee i wonder who the smarter of the two are
omnipanzer 10.04.11	"Typical redneck conservative response to this: Are you fucking kidding me? Goddamn pussies. Hank rules." Someone ruling is not a get out of jail free card in my book. You say something dumb you pay for it in business dollars i.e. losing a sponsor.
jefflebowski 10.04.11	so basically, you're saying ESPN is liberal based on your highly generalized stereotype of liberal views?
BallsToTheWall 10.04.11	Ultimately this has no effect on any of our lives, at least it shouldn't.
BigHans 10.04.11	so basically, you're saying ESPN is liberal based on your highly generalized stereotype of liberals? ^ first of all, stereotypes exist for a reason. second, this is not something that conservatives would bitch about. If its a PR move, its a move to placate liberals, period.
omnipanzer 10.04.11	Hans, clinging to the past with every fiber of being. ;^)
theacademy 10.04.11	"How is it a first amendment thing? ESPN isn't funded by the government, it's part of a private corporation." it's not a first amendment violation but can't seriously be so dense as to ignore the broader speech concerns
theacademy 10.04.11	you*
omnipanzer 10.04.11	"If its a PR move, its a move to placate liberals, period." Or Jews, Or Germans among others.
omnipanzer 10.04.11	WWII Vets
BallsToTheWall 10.04.11	You might be a redneck if....
Vesper 10.04.11	No, I get that completely, Hans. I myself get very irritated when my Asian friends make generalizing remarks about white people, since my boyfriend is just about the whitest guy you'll ever meet, haha. It's become socially acceptable to a certain extent, which is regrettable and needs to be addressed. The point is more that the backlash is largely insignificant considering that minorities actually have relatively little power or influence in the world compared to white males. It's like gnats biting a lion or some other analogy, lol.
omnipanzer 10.04.11	People with common sense.
illmitch 10.04.11	they're not censoring him because they disagree with him. they're censoring him because they don't want to be associated with him. potential loss of ad revenue - what if a company pulls their ads from espn because they don't want to be associated with the guy who called obama a nazi? it's business sense pure and simple. calling it anything else is deluding yourself.
BigHans 10.04.11	What ESPN needs to realize is that the type of person who would actually get offended by Hank's comments are not the majority demographic that actually watches Monday Night Football.
omnipanzer 10.04.11	"The point is more that the backlash is largely insignificant considering that minorities actually have relatively little power or influence in the world compared to white males. It's like gnats biting a lion or some other analogy, lol." I think that is more perceived than actual.
jefflebowski 10.04.11	'first of all, stereotypes exist for a reason.' so black people can't swim after all? ;)
BigHans 10.04.11	they're not censoring him because they disagree with him. they're censoring him because they don't want to be associated with him. potential loss of ad revenue - what if a company pulls their ads from espn because they don't want to be associated with the guy who called obama a nazi? ^ If a company pulled its ad from a major TV event like Monday night football over that, they would be retarded and horrible business people. I'm pretty sure most companys wouldn't pass up an advertising opportunity like that just cause Hank Jr made some comment somewhere that is being completely blown out of proportion just because its Barry O.
BigHans 10.04.11	'first of all, stereotypes exist for a reason.' so black people can't swim after all? ^ Can't say I've ever heard that one.
BallsToTheWall 10.04.11	Thread is brilliant, just wait till religion gets brought into the mix. 1,236 COMMENTS!!!!!
illmitch 10.04.11	"What ESPN needs to realize is that the type of person who would actually get offended by Hank's comments are not the majority demographic that actually watches Monday Night Football." thats a pretty damn big generalization
MisterTornado 10.04.11	I saw Hank live once and he was by far the drunkest person at the event. Good times. lol
illmitch 10.04.11	pretty sure no one political demographic can claim football
BigHans 10.04.11	thats a pretty damn big generalization ^ Are you sure? Who is more likely to watch football?
illmitch 10.04.11	the majority of americans watch football just because you want to portray liberals as whiny or whatever doesn't mean we don't love football as much as anyone else
Vesper 10.04.11	"I think that is more perceived than actual." To some extent, this is changing in the international sense with the rise of power from Asian countries, in particular, but most of the most powerful people and anyone visible in the media, are white males. I'm also speaking more specifically to the US, since this is where this issue seems to be most widely contested. Think of all the influence-peddlers in the US, and see how many you can name who are not white males as opposed to those who are.
Aids 10.04.11	'MURICA
BallsToTheWall 10.04.11	YOU GOT A PURTY LITTLE MOUTH
jefflebowski 10.04.11	'Can't say I've ever heard that one.' You need to listen to Motor Booty Affair by Parliament. It's all there....
BloodSweatandBeers 10.04.11	"just because you want to portray liberals as whiny or whatever doesn't mean we don't love football as much as anyone else" well put
AngelofDeath 10.04.11	Fuck Hank Jr. Fuck ESPN. Fuck Obama. Fuck Hitler. Fuck conservatives. Fuck liberals. All that matters is football.
Athom 10.04.11	quit your bitching andy. i like hank jr (his music, not him as a person) and football is one of my favorite pasttimes (to watch and play) and I'm the kind of liberal that chastises obama for being a centrist. get your head out of your ass and just enjoy what turned out to be a pretty good game.
illmitch 10.04.11	^^^
Trebor. 10.04.11	Song sucks anyway
Counterfeit 10.04.11	hans. what are you talking about.
BigHans 10.04.11	Mitch, have you ever played organized football? Its a game of oppression, of sytematic destruction, a culture of stength, of power, of domination, devoid of crying, fairness etc. Not saying liberals aren't football fans, but just tell me which group is more likely to be a hardcore football fan.
illmitch 10.04.11	if football is devoid of fairness why is the draft organized so that the weakest teams get the best players shouldnt the good teams be rewarded for doing well and get the better players? what is this commie shit
Athom 10.04.11	so you're telling me that football is a game drawn across political lines? sometimes you are fucking dumb, dude.
BigHans 10.04.11	what is this commie shit ^ lol fair point. Was referring to the game itself. Have you played it?
jefflebowski 10.04.11	I like sports and I don't care who knows!
ThespianLesbian 10.04.11	Conservatives hate abortions As a women this offends me
illmitch 10.04.11	of course ive played football your point is just retarded
Athom 10.04.11	yes.
BigHans 10.04.11	so you're telling me that football is a game drawn across political lines? sometimes you are fucking dumb, dude. ^ evolved from a point I was making that the majority of football fans are not the type that would be offended by Hank and refuse to watch Monday Night Football just because he took a shot at Big Barry.
Trebor. 10.04.11	Half of our country is dumb as fuck Let's move to Canada
illmitch 10.04.11	but you never proved that football fans are more likely to be conservative
puma35 10.04.11	this is actually a big deal to people? oh no.. the monday night football theme song is gone... that's actually why I watch monday night football guys, for the HANK FUCKING WILLIAMS JR theme song! hurrr....
AngelofDeath 10.04.11	You'd have a much stronger case if this was NASCAR.
BigHans 10.04.11	of course ive played football your point is just retarded ^ ok. Did your coach practice fairness? Did he give a shit about it? Did he say "oh, Im going to let everyone play, Im not going to make someone feel inferior just because this guy is better. If you complained about something being unfair, did your coach listen with a sympathetic nod, or did he tell you to stop acting like a fucking pussy?
illmitch 10.04.11	nobody in my extended family has voted for a republican since ive been born and we all luv football
illmitch 10.04.11	what the hell does fairness in football have to do with people being liberals if you want to say that all liberals are pussies and like crying then by all means go ahead and say it but youre not really making any sense
BigHans 10.04.11	nobody in my extended family has voted for a republican since ive been born ^ theres a shock
illmitch 10.04.11	i already said i was a liberal why would that be a shock
illmitch 10.04.11	anyway i have to go to work bye might come back here and ask ppl for fantasy advice
AngelofDeath 10.04.11	"If you complained about something being unfair, did your coach listen with a sympathetic nod, or did he tell you to stop acting like a fucking pussy?" Isn't this exactly what you're doing, though?
BigHans 10.04.11	what the hell does fairness in football have to do with people being liberals ^ why is this so hard to comprehend. Im saying that the nature of football is more likely to be played and enjoyed by red blooded males versus those who are more apt to complain about things that liberals would complain about. It doesnt mean that ALL football fans follow this, but from ESPN's standpoint, the majority of people who are serious about football couldnt give 5 fucks that Hank offended the liberal kingpin and it wouldnt stop them from watching football, and it wouldnt stop advertisers, so basically ESPN is placating a group of people who they know will whine like little bitches if they didnt do something, and we know exactly who that group is.
Trebor. 10.04.11	We stole their country so we're even
eternium 10.04.11	Are you comparing an athletic sport to how our country should be ran?
theacademy 10.04.11	lol keep digging, hans
Athom 10.04.11	I want the Scandinavian style of government with taxes and social programs up the wazzoo yet I played D-line and I cleated people and chop blocked like an asshole in the process.
Trebor. 10.04.11	Baseball sucks cuz it's capitalism Football rules cuz it's communism
AngelofDeath 10.04.11	lol Adam
eternium 10.04.11	Oh and by your reasoning all of the football players are liberals because they are members of a union. In fact the recent gridlock can be compared to the Wall Street protests in that the (still overpaid) players wanted better treatment from their (vastly overpaid) bosses. So maybe they pulled Hank's song because the players, obviously Obama fans, would boycott the game.
BigHans 10.04.11	yet I played D-line and I cleated people and chop blocked like an asshole in the process. ^ Thats where the real men play. That and left tackle. I must say Im shocked though, you dont seem to posess the physique to play D line, especially in a huge city. You must have been a badass Adam.
klap 10.04.11	it's not hard to comprehend hans it's just retarded
BigHans 10.04.11	Are you comparing an athletic sport to how our country should be ran? ^ No, Im talking about the viability of ESPN actually being hurt by not pulling Hanks song.
theacademy 10.04.11	Man's response has been pathetic. Today, 18-to- 34-year-old men spend more time playing video games a day than 12-to- 17-year-old boys. While women are graduating college and finding good jobs, too many men are not going to work, not getting married and not raising families. Women are beginning to take the place of men in many ways. This has led some to ask: do we even need men?
Athom 10.04.11	I went to a small christian school. i don't think anyone was turned away if they wanted to play. I was a bit wider and stouter at the time.
Vesper 10.04.11	By characterizing conservatives as "red-blooded males", you're implying liberals aren't really men. Yeah, way to bring sexism into this. Typically conservative behavior to degrade liberals as "pussies" or some other retort that aligns weakness with femininity or being "less than male". Oh, wait, shouldn't generalize.
alachlahol 10.04.11	hans desperately trying to justify his manliness at every opportunity
BigHans 10.04.11	I went to a small christian school ^ That explains your intense dislike for religion, haha
theacademy 10.04.11	my top 5 male role models: 1. john mcclane 2. bruce willis 3. al bundy 4. ted bundy 5. bighans
alachlahol 10.04.11	no matter how fucking stupid his opinions/arguments hes a MAN
BigHans 10.04.11	Yeah, way to bring sexism into this. Typically conservative behavior to degrade liberals as "pussies" or some other retort that aligns weakness or with femininity or being "less than male". ^ in the game of football, weakness is "less than male."
BigHans 10.04.11	alachlahol, how are the Eagles doing?
BigHans 10.04.11	bro hans you could've avoided all this shit by wording things differently ^ dude isnt it obvious that I intended for this to happen? Told you I was bored.
theacademy 10.04.11	football is for weak faggots real men play hockey
alachlahol 10.04.11	hans most likely got caught in the closet playing with some other dudes balls when he was young and has tried to dig himself from his hole of shame ever since
theacademy 10.04.11	dig himself into other dudes' buttholes^
ThespianLesbian 10.04.11	Go back to playing your acoustic guitar by the campfire
AngelofDeath 10.04.11	"real men play hockey" I played hockey, so yeah.
BigHans 10.04.11	nah when I was young I was usually playing sports and I dont care who knows
theacademy 10.04.11	lol sonic
omnipanzer 10.04.11	"ok. Did your coach practice fairness? Did he give a shit about it? Did he say "oh, Im going to let everyone play, Im not going to make someone feel inferior just because this guy is better. If you complained about something being unfair, did your coach listen with a sympathetic nod, or did he tell you to stop acting like a fucking pussy?" Hans... what the fuck are you talking about? The Army is built on a socialist structure and they historically support their current commander-in-chief out of loyalty. so how does your statement fit to the drill instructor as opposed to a coach?
eternium 10.04.11	Hans is probably the guy that will be retarded drunk and pass out if you call him a pussy for not drinking yet another beer after another beer. In the end he's the one with dicks drawn on his face.
omnipanzer 10.04.11	Hans is the drawer not the drawee
theacademy 10.04.11	well actually you never quit when there's still beer left so idk what youre getting at
BigHans 10.04.11	are you challenging me to a drinking contest eternium?
omnipanzer 10.04.11	Why are you not arguing with me Hans? I still have a half hour to kill!
Inveigh 10.04.11	yeah why is someone having to be forced into drinking beer? that doesn't make any sense
BigHans 10.04.11	I didnt get what you were trying to say Omni. If youre saying a football coach is akin to a drill instructor, youre right. Well, at least most of the good ones are.
Inveigh 10.04.11	also, I understand why ESPN did it I guess, wouldn't expect anything less really. doesn't mean I think it's cool though, that song was iconic.
theacademy 10.04.11	you guys are all pussy faggots -kid with the OC avatar
BigHans 10.04.11	and yeah i get why espn did it but its still pretty gay im not gonna take my adds off espn, a highly watched channel, just cause it plays a song by a country artist who isnt down with obama (AKA all country artists) ^ entire thread could probably be condensed to this.
omnipanzer 10.04.11	"I didnt get what you were trying to say Omni. If youre saying a football coach is akin to a drill instructor, youre right. Well, at least most of the good ones are." I don't understand how you equate that to liberal or conservative outlook.
ThespianLesbian 10.04.11	We don't listen to that country shit in Canada Except Taylor Swift :)
klap 10.04.11	not agreeing with obama is different from comparing him to hitler
eternium 10.04.11	Nah, I'm just saying that you sound like the type of people who can be convinced to do stupid shit just by being called a pussy.
BigHans 10.04.11	Nah, I'm just saying that you sound like the type of people who can be convinced to do stupid shit just by being called a pussy. ^ That was called my 21st birthday.
theacademy 10.04.11	im so sick of all you faggot ass pussy liberal fucks. brb my veggie burger is ready.
foreverendeared 10.04.11	This makes no sense to me, especially considering all the racist remarks people have made in the past that haven't effected something like this. Consider the Michael Richards incident. After that, did Time Warner pull all Seinfeld reruns? Of coarse not.
BigHans 10.04.11	Omni, dont get me going on an entirely different tangent. Again, this is about who is more likely to be offended by Hank continuing on ESPN, and the viability of ESPN suffering AT ALL, in relation to the consumer. There is no viable reason for ESPN to take Hank off other than to placate those who are sensitive to what Hank says, which is not the majority of football fans, and even if it were, they wouldnt stop watching football over it.
theacademy 10.04.11	im gonna put basil hummus on it :D
BigHans 10.04.11	brb my veggie burger is ready. ^ I find it exceptionally hard to believe you are a Skid Row fan now.
BigHans 10.04.11	Forever: Michael Richards was done after that, and deservedly so. From a network cable standpoint, pulling Seinfeld off syndication would be one of the stupidest business decisions in history.
Electric City 10.04.11	just cuz its iconic doesnt mean it doesnt suck
eternium 10.04.11	Maybe ESPN doesn't like our president being called Hitler.. It doesn't HAVE to be about ads or PR.
foreverendeared 10.04.11	Yeah, but he still gets payed the royalties.
BigHans 10.04.11	not really Downer cause that song rules in all actuality.
foreverendeared 10.04.11	And I'm just using that as an example of one of many, I don't mean to imply both circumstances are the same.
BigHans 10.04.11	I mean, at the very least, it fucking destroys Faith Hill's pathetic Sunday Night Football song.
BigHans 10.04.11	Im glad you brought up Richards though. What he did is an example of something that actually deserves a backlash. What Hank did is about .00000000000001 percent as bad.
omnipanzer 10.04.11	Okay seriously. With the amount of bull shit miss-information constantly coming from all sides I actually have a hard time understanding how anyone would give a shit about this. Obama gets inaccurately compared to offensive shit all the time. I'm surprised they cared enough to pull him tbh. As far as I'm concerned he's covered by freedom of speech and they can do what ever they want as it's their show. Realistically it sounds to me like they were looking for a way to pull an old warn out song without offending sentimental dudes like you. You can blame the wrong people all you want but it won't change a thing.
theacademy 10.04.11	you better not say another FUCKING word about Faith Hill.
theacademy 10.04.11	some things are sacred.
omnipanzer 10.04.11	It also makes you kind of a sucker for believing their shit.
ThespianLesbian 10.04.11	I can't stand the sunday night football theme
foreverendeared 10.04.11	"Realistically it sounds to me like they were looking for a way to pull an old warn out song without offending sentimental dudes like you." I'm not sure about that. Why would they change an iconic song like that? There's a reason why shows that hit the right song keep it for decades (ala Meet the Press, NBC Nightly News, etc).
sifFlammable 10.04.11	"There is no viable reason for ESPN to take Hank off" seriously bighans what dont u get about the concept of business management?
BigHans 10.04.11	I remember the first time Hanks MNF song played. It was 1989. Thought it was pretty badass even then.
BigHans 10.04.11	seriously bighans what dont u get about the concept of business management? ^ I do, actually. No advertiser would pull an ad because of Hank's comment. Now if he would have went Richards on us, that is a different story. ESPN would not have been hurt one bit by keeping the song.
omnipanzer 10.04.11	"I'm not sure about that. Why would they change an iconic song like that? There's a reason why shows that hit the right song keep it for decades (ala Meet the Press, NBC Nightly News, etc)." Who knows how much it was costing them...
omnipanzer 10.04.11	"I remember the first time Hanks MNF song played. It was 1989. Thought it was pretty badass even then." It was.
omnipanzer 10.04.11	"I do, actually. No advertiser would pull an ad because of Hank's comment. Now if he would have went Richards on us, that is a different story. ESPN would not have been hurt one bit by keeping the song." ESPN is the most expensive cable channel to poses. They would not have been hurt at all by keeping it which is why I'm saying that there were probably Ulterior motives at play here.
foreverendeared 10.04.11	"Who knows how much it was costing them..." Good point.
foreverendeared 10.04.11	"there were probably Ulterior motives at play here" We'll probably never know.
sifFlammable 10.04.11	"I do, actually. No advertiser would pull an ad because of Hank's comment. Now if he would have went Richards on us, that is a different story. ESPN would not have been hurt one bit by keeping the song." well really because youre completely missing the point - they're drawing the line on what image they want to portray to the public because of their (and pretty much all other big firms') long-term imperatives to maintain a positive, professional, and responsible image to the public.
Inveigh 10.04.11	http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2011/10/review-renee-richards-reluctant-transgender-hero.html conservative agenda
FrankRedHot 10.04.11	This doesn't make ESPN liberal in any sense. They just didn't want to be associated with someone this stupid. It has nothing to do with politics or party affiliations. It has to do with ESPN not having to deal with angry letters and boycotts.
FrankRedHot 10.04.11	No advertiser would pull their ads, Hans? In the immortal words of the MNF football crew, "C'mon, man!" Look what happened to Tiger. Bad PR resulting from some stupid act always means loss of sponsors. Be reasonable Hans.
climactic 10.04.11	i don't think i've ever seen a stupider person than when he went on fox for that interview...
Polymath 10.04.11	Holy shit
Trebor. 10.04.11	Disregard that Frank, it's just liberal bullshit
americanmusicmachine 10.04.11	you sound like you're compensating for something hans
EpsilonJSTC 10.05.11	Hank III rules.
americanohno 10.05.11	yup
Recspecs 10.05.11	If I'm correct, ESPN is owned by Disney, and Disney is HELLA liberal. By the way, ESPN doesn't play enough soccer so I watch Fox Soccer or Sky Sports anyways.
americanmusicmachine 10.05.11	BIG HANS LITTLE DICK
Keyblade 10.05.11	Liberals whine about political correctness. Conservatives whine about Liberals.
americanmusicmachine 10.05.11	I WHINE ABOUT COCK
newjunkaesthetic93 10.05.11	This pissed me off too. That song is part of what makes MNF for me, they can't just pull it cause he made some insensitive comment. Plus, my history teacher called president Bush Hitler once and he didn't get fired. Fuck this shit.
newjunkaesthetic93 10.05.11	His comment was pretty retarded though.
sifFlammable 10.05.11	this talk about firms having a political stance lol
PayneTiger777 10.05.11	I can't even watch ESPN anymore because all they fucking talk about are the Eagles and Tony Romo no matter if they win or lose. It wasn't about the 49er's win, it was about the Eagles lose. And jesus christ, it's as if they want to suck off on Tony Romo. Shut the fuck up already. He's an overrated piece of garbage who chokes...end of story.
Keyblade 10.05.11	"I WHINE ABOUT COCK" No Romo.
newjunkaesthetic93 10.05.11	I'm sure at some point during those "American Recordings" Johnny Cash recorded a version of the Monday Night Football song. Just use that instead.
BigHans 10.05.11	lol at peope who don't think this wasn't a political move. It was based on a political statement about a politician. The act of making a decision to stragegically not alienate a specific demographic is political in nature.
omnipanzer 10.05.11	Oh, this thread will never die.
BigHans 10.05.11	oh and whoever said Romo sucks hard is correct.
JoshPanzer 10.05.11	romo is god
MO 10.05.11	he's definitely got balls playing in his condition
DikkoZinner 09.20.13	ESPN messed up by going facebook for the comment section. Those Tebow comment sections were gold.
FabiusPictor202 05.19.21	I enjoyed these comments