thejon93rd: 5 Overrated Movies Of 2012

KSK1 02.09.13	List is missing the new Batman. That shit sucked ass
Trebor. 02.09.13	Were you expecting 3 and 4 to be good?
ExcentrifugalForz 02.09.13	Haven't seen most of these but I agree on 5. The movie reaches for greatness but has little payoff.
theacademy 02.09.13	lol just had to read the cabin in the woods writeup i just HAD TO
wanderlust 02.09.13	Agreed on these ones. New batman and django were pretty good imo.
theacademy 02.09.13	the harbinger on speakerphone scene not funny at all ur totally right dude
XingKing 02.09.13	I don't know how TASM is overrated when it seems like no one likes it. I am surprised at the lack of Dark Knight Rises, since that was a shit film
DominionMM1 02.09.13	yeah, 2 sucked. and jcvd was excellent.
WeepingBanana 02.09.13	cabin in the woods was actually really cool f u
intotheshit 02.09.13	None of these movies compared to Sevendust I agree
blastOFFitsPARTYtime 02.09.13	Cabin was good agreed.
AtomicShane 02.09.13	i dont think anyone liked 4 to begin with
ninjuice 02.09.13	The Hunger Games is the only truly bad film here. Expendables 2 fixed the only serious flaw with #1: it didn't feel that serious. Django gets flak from everyone because there's a big shootout+death of two characters 30+ mins before it ends imo (your brain thinks the movie should be over sooner)
toxin. 02.09.13	The Hunger Games was really 2012? Whoa, time flies. I didn't think that movie was awful but I also had no expectations. Even the HP movies were disappointments compared to the books. But yeah while there were issues with it I actually found it enjoyable. I really like your description for it, though, because they are points that I generally agree with. Way too tame. I thought ASM was worse personally but idk
Skoop 02.09.13	3 was really bad
theacademy 02.09.13	whoa ninjuice sighting
DrGonzo1937 02.09.13	4 and 2 I don't agree with, the rest, yeah. Spidey was pure garbage.
ninjuice 02.09.13	"you're alive?" I browse. I'm already becoming a bit out of touch with music at 23 though haha " This film deserves a Director's Cut, ala Blade Runner's Final Cut, that's more straight-to-the-point than it was theatrically." You know less about movies than what's obvious at first: Ridley Scott will add at least an hour of unnecessary deleted scenes 10 years from now because he has that much "pull" (ex: Kingdom of Heaven is nearly 4 hours)
solongatlast 02.09.13	I'm with you on 1. I enjoyed Prometheus, but then I saw Alien for the first time and realized Prometheus was the same movie.
nononsense 02.09.13	2 was good, 4 was fun, agree with the rest.
Trebor. 02.09.13	No one liked Expendables 2 You don't like Expendables 2 overrated?
Cygnatti 02.09.13	pretty sure expendables 2 was meant to be fucking awful I didn't think 3 was that bad
greg84 02.09.13	I actually don't agree with any of those. I'd pick out Lincoln, Life Of Pi, Les Mis and Compliance...
paxman 02.09.13	Hunger Games was awful. I'm so out of touch with today's youth
FearThyEvil 02.09.13	1 and 2 were great. I'd definitely say Les Mis is probably the most overrated of 2012.
paxman 02.09.13	Looper is probably the most overrated film of 2012 in my opinion
WeepingBanana 02.09.13	greg, Life of Pi ruled so fucking hard. rooting for it for the oscars
greg84 02.09.13	No way it's gonna get it. I mean the film wasn't bad per se, just not very good either. Flawed scripting kind of ruined it for me.
WeepingBanana 02.09.13	did you read the book? book is better obviously. honestly, i thought the movie was gonna totally butcher it but i was pleasantly surprised, which is probably why i love it more than i should
kwill15 02.09.13	An I the only one who thinks the Avengers was really overrated?
baldymort 02.09.13	Django was easily the most overrated film of 2012. Terrible pacing and editing. Inglorious did it better in every aspect.
greg84 02.09.13	No, I didn't. I actually thought the story wasn't very cinematic, and the guy who wrote the script definitely didn't do the best job. The film feels flumsy in places, if visually beautiful. My favorite movie of the year was easily Zero Dark Thirty. I don't think it'll get the Oscar though. I'm not that optimistic.
WeepingBanana 02.09.13	considering how most movie adaptations go, Life of Pi could have been a lot worse. a lot of the themes stayed in tact and translate well enough, with a few minor missteps.
tiesthatbind 02.10.13	Expendables 2 was a lot of fun, saying it's overrated by critics is laughable considering how much hate it gets.
paxman 02.10.13	But Looper is the most overrated, agreed?
nononsense 02.10.13	Nicholas Cage is gunna be in Expendables 3.
nononsense 02.10.13	DKR was the most overrated.
Ire 02.10.13	MAN ALL OF THESE MOVIES ARE OVERRATED BECAUSE I HATE THEM
DotEight 02.10.13	Naw Looper was awesome.
JokineAugustus 02.10.13	Looper was more underated. A lot of people hated that movie for its ending.
lyzakthellama 02.10.13	@kwill I totally agree, the avengers was extremely overhyped and overrated
Crymsonblaze 02.10.13	2 ruled The rest blew
JokineAugustus 02.10.13	Django was good, but it could of ended shortly after Leonaro Di Caprio and Chritoph Waltz die.
paxman 02.10.13	Come on guys, Looper was the most retarded movie ever
JokineAugustus 02.10.13	I can see how you can think that, but I loved it.
greg84 02.10.13	Looper is easily in my top 5 of the year. Awesome film!
DrGonzo1937 02.10.13	Looper is probably the most overrated film of 2012 in my opinion You on crack, son!
greg84 02.10.13	It's quite amazing because it doesn't go in the direction you expect it to. Besides, time travel movies are ace in spite of the fact they're totally illogical.
MrElmo 02.10.13	4 is good popcorn movie, 3 popcorns out of 5 imo
blastOFFitsPARTYtime 02.10.13	Looper was awesome agreed. Easily top ten, if not top 5 of '12 for me. JGL was godly as per.
blastOFFitsPARTYtime 02.10.13	The Hobbit was probs the most overrated.
paxman 02.10.13	The entire premise of Looper is nonsensical. Why not kill the guys in the present and just send their bodies back in time so that the "Loopers" only have to dispose of the body? This would eliminate any possibility of letting your Looper run or whatever they called it. And why did the Loopers have to close their own loop? Let somebody else close the loop so you don't end up seeing your own face thirty years older and having a change of heart. Not to mention the film completely died in the second act when he went to the farm. It went from being a cool (albeit inane) technothriller to a veritable siesta.
WeepingBanana 02.10.13	"The entire premise of Looper is nonsensical. Why not kill the guys in the present and just send their bodies back in time so that the "Loopers" only have to dispose of the body? This would eliminate any possibility of letting your Looper run or whatever they called it. And why did the Loopers have to close their own loop? Let somebody else close the loop so you don't end up seeing your own face thirty years older and having a change of heart." YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THIS WORK OF FICTIONAL SCI FI DOESN'T MAKE 100% REAL WORLD SENSE?? WHAT THE FUCK!!!!
paxman 02.10.13	It's not 100% real world sense. It's common sense. I'm supposed to believe that in the year 2070 or whatever, there's no such thing as sense? I understand that in sci-fi there are bound to be some scientific apsects that aren't going to make sense. But this isn't scientific. It's common, everyday sense.
ConsiderPhlebas 02.10.13	The Hunger Games was aimed at a very select group of society, one that Battle Royale doesn't cater to. It's not a great film, but its competition is Twilight, and compared to that trash its awesome. At the very least it depicts girls getting shiz done, rather than waiting to become an eternal housewife to a fool she thinks is hot. The book is more nuanced, but sadly they shoe-horned needless detail into the film to appease fangirls, reducing the political and social aspects down to gimmicks. Something needs to wash Meyer's poison from the world, though, and kids stabbing each other is a start. Cabin.. wasn't that bizarre to me. Was a light-satire of horror and the things which dictate its characteristics. Spider-Man. DISAGREE. Toby Maguire spent three films staring into space and being an effeminate weed. The Lizard looked weird, but the 'darkness' is there in the modern comics and graphic novels. Raimi was stuck in the sixties. Gee wiz! The aunt in those films isn't even human, she's a diabetes-inducing grandma-tron 9000 Expendables is just trash. Prometheus, urgh. Nice visuals, catastrophic story. Charlize Theron stands around doing nothing, sub-plots go nowhere, ridiculous characters (trillion dollar mission, and the geologist they find is an unprofessional, aggressive punk with tattoos on his face) and nonsensical alien things that do things without purpose. Jamming some Christianity in there was a nice touch, gotta dispel that pesky evolution.
theacademy 02.10.13	paxman's point isn't bad, but it's also not the 'earth-shattering common sense' linchpin that he seems to think it is i figured it was just cleaner to do the killing in the past, without all the biological evidence to tie the killers to the crime. Your question is basically: why buy into an elaborate hitman system when you can just kill the dude yourself? Well, in this future, we're told that this is the easiest way to do it (which may not make that much sense to us atm, but since there's this system in place, i can kinda see it working). regardless, the movie's bigger problem is it's pacing in the second half... i can get past your main gripe pretty easily
theacademy 02.10.13	Looper was the 5th or 6th best film of last year
paxman 02.10.13	According to the guys up there, the fact that Prometheus is a "fictional sci-fi story" frees it from any constraints of the real world. Sense? No, it doesn't need sense!
theacademy 02.10.13	wow phlebas basically 123 nice job except not so much for spidey and i didnt see expendables 2
ConsiderPhlebas 02.10.13	Admittedly I thought the guy who played spidey was too old, but it reminded me of the old cartoons so I gave it a pass. Exp 2 is just Exp 1 with worse everything.
theacademy 02.10.13	i wish prometheus just gave us what we wanted (xenomorphs)... an ambitious, existential journey and an alien prequel are not mutually exclusive fucking lindeloff
paxman 02.10.13	Re: Looper That's a good point, acad, and one that I did consider. The rationale in the film was that it was impossible to dispose of a body in the present, which could very well tie into not leaving a crime scene, any biological evidence, et cetera. But then you see guys walking around with guns, getting shot, even the murder of the Asian woman and the razing of her and Bruce Willis's home. These guys are essentially the mafia of the future.
theacademy 02.10.13	yea but the film is extremely hazy on what the future (bruce willis' future) actually looks like... like where he was living with his asian lady could have been on the other side of the planet from the area that the mob controlled... we don't know what kind of government had what kind of power, etc. this is probably by design to avoid having debates like the one we're having... also to add some mystery to the rainmaker
ConsiderPhlebas 02.10.13	Scott has gone off the rails more than once but I was shocked he actually agreed to shoot that script. It made the matrix sequels look coherent.
theacademy 02.10.13	sure was a pretty movie tho... sigh
ConsiderPhlebas 02.10.13	Yeah, was beautiful at points. Apparently they've got someone else writing the sequel. Fingers crossed.
paxman 02.10.13	I'm hoping that the sequel will tie all of the shit together, explain the black goo and the kind of random things it does and whatnot
WeepingBanana 02.10.13	paxman, both Prometheus and Looper require immense suspension of disbelief. The difference between the two though is that the characters in Looper fit into their world (which I'd like to mention was perfectly conceived for what it was) and took things rationally, making decisions they need to make in the world that they live in. Prometheus on the other hand was basically a spaceship full of retards doing things like playing peekaboo with a scary, foreign snake penis and doing retarded shit. My suspension of disbelief was basically in a constant state of shattering. Also, I'd like to cite the scene in Looper where they're in the diner and JG-L is trying to sort out the logistics of time travel and Bruce Willis is like "who gives a shit!". Basically just a really obvious nod to the audience.
WeepingBanana 02.10.13	Overall though, Looper wasn't my favorite movie of the year or anything. barely top 10 probably and not as good as Rian Johnson's other movie Brick
ConsiderPhlebas 02.10.13	The whole film should have been Fassbender on his own, finding proper alien-aliens and thinking about the consequences of them getting to earth, with a bit of who-am-I existential stuff chucked in. Looper was a blast.
paxman 02.10.13	" the characters in Looper fit into their world (which I'd like to mention was perfectly conceived for what it was) and took things rationally, making decisions they need to make in the world that they live in." I disagree with you there. It's true, I don't give a shit about time-travel and its myriad paradoxes; the point I was trying to make above is I don't care about the science--I care about the common sense, the choices they make, and the actions they take. Everything about Looper in my opinion is so deeply contrived and false. And I'm not talking about time-travel.
WeepingBanana 02.10.13	I'm not talking about the time travel either. Every logical flaw you mentioned though was more of a product of the world than it was of the main characters though. The main characters however, make decisions they have to make for the situation their in, no matter how illogical the situation is.
WeepingBanana 02.10.13	http://5secondfilms.com/watch/pooper
paxman 02.10.13	So you thought JG-L committing suicide at the end made sense? I thought it was lazy writing and overdramatic.
WeepingBanana 02.10.13	What? The whole movie was about making tough decisions and so JG-L does so to save her and her kid. It's not lazy. Predictable? Maybe. But predictability and a good story aren't mutually exclusive.
Shuyin 02.10.13	i fucking hate the word 'overrated' you should be talking about the lesser known shit instead
ViralOblivion 02.10.13	The problem with Prometheus was the characters, in Alien the crew were people you would have thought to have actually existed no one in Prometheus felt like a genuine person they all felt phony and cheaply written
WeepingBanana 02.10.13	I'm fucking glad everyone died in that movie
ViralOblivion 02.10.13	It seemed like he was tying to capture that lightning in a bottle again when it's near impossible to do that
nononsense 02.10.13	If you were expecting The Hobbit to be like the LOTR movies than I can see why it would be overrated.
blastOFFitsPARTYtime 02.10.13	Didn't really have any expectations for the Hobbit at all. More disdain at PJ's final stride into sell-out-dom than anything I guess.
ConsiderPhlebas 02.10.13	The Hobbit would have made a great two hour film. Nine hours is insane.
nononsense 02.10.13	I love anything Tolkein related so I loved The Hobbit.
ConsiderPhlebas 02.10.13	A lot of the scenes taken from the book are great, and the casting is ace. The bits they added were silly, though.
nononsense 02.11.13	The extra scenes are from a parallel story line that Tolkein added after The Hobbit book was released.
ConsiderPhlebas 02.11.13	Some of the added material is from other works by Tolkien, appendices etc. Jackson added some himself, though. Gollum scene was the best by a mile.
Crymsonblaze 02.11.13	"Spider-Man. DISAGREE. Toby Maguire spent three films staring into space and being an effeminate weed. The Lizard looked weird, but the 'darkness' is there in the modern comics and graphic novels. RAIMI WAS STUCK IN THE SIXTIES. Gee wiz! The aunt in those films isn't even human, she's a diabetes-inducing grandma-tron 9000" Um. That's the point.
Crymsonblaze 02.11.13	also the point, sillies
Crymsonblaze 02.11.13	i mean i get it, camp isn't everyone's style, but that's basically sam raimi's rasion d'etre
Crymsonblaze 02.11.13	"it was a joke." OH tee hee ;-)
Crymsonblaze 02.11.13	i'll take sam raimi wherever i can get it
ConsiderPhlebas 02.11.13	I like Raimi a lot, especially the Evil Dead films. Just thought the sixties spider-man didn't work in a modern setting. It'd be like having Adam West running around a modern city in his Batman outfit. There's been modern characterization in spider-man comics, and the cartoon, for decades. Felt like a step backwards, and the campness really didn't help.
Crymsonblaze 02.11.13	yea
Crymsonblaze 02.11.13	well i don't really care about spider-man outside of the raimi films so i guess that's a factor as well
Crymsonblaze 02.11.13	eh i love em all even venom actually, especially venom
SIMBOLIC 02.11.13	NEWS FLASH if you dont like a movie and others do, its automatically overrated!!!!!
Crymsonblaze 02.11.13	i forgive
ConsiderPhlebas 02.11.13	Dude, wtf. Venom was a catastrophe, Raimi was forced to put him in, which is why the third film was so broken. Doc Oc was pretty sweet, I thought. Willem Defoe overacted so much, though, as the GG.
Crymsonblaze 02.11.13	the way i see it, there will never be another movie like spider-man 3. many say "thank god", but i see it as an amazingly campy blockbuster. it's amazing that it got made. sam raimi just did whatever the hell he wanted (with what he had, anyway) and it was glorious
Crymsonblaze 02.11.13	well your opinion about my opinion is wrong just saying
BassDemon333 02.11.13	Yeah it was pretty bad, I thought the new one was rather good though.
Crymsonblaze 02.11.13	if loving sam raimi's spider-man trilogy is wrong, then no one should ever strive to be right
ConsiderPhlebas 02.11.13	The last Batman film before Batman Begins (Forever? can never remember) was so silly it was entertaining, with Arnie and his "Ice to see you!", but Spider-Man 3.. really? Just seemed dull and chaotically put together to me. 2 was a pretty sweet film all in all, despite the campness of Maguire. Loved how no one reacts surprised to the scientist when he announces he's invented a sun, artificial intelligence and giant mechanical arms that fit into his spine.
SIMBOLIC 02.11.13	raimi's trilogy was just popcorn comic book fun. I really liked it
Crymsonblaze 02.11.13	"your blinded by your love of raimi that you can't admit when something is clearly shit." does it really matter?
Crymsonblaze 02.11.13	i'm not a movie critic; i have no reason to be objective
Crymsonblaze 02.11.13	i might watch it later as far as i'm concerned, it's pretty much immune from criticism in my eyes
Crymsonblaze 02.11.13	i don't really expect or care to change anyone's view, i'm just being really belligerent about my opinions
WeepingBanana 02.11.13	the first two raimi spiderman movies ruled so hard but the third one is pretty bad
Crymsonblaze 02.11.13	weep
BillTheButcher 02.11.13	just watched looper for the first time the other day. it rocked. main reason im here: Cabin in the Woods is a gamechanger in the horror movie world. it literally took 30 years of rule establishing, stereotyping, and essential foreshadowing in horror films for the movie to make a lick of sense. basically, if you didn't like cabin in the woods... its you, not the movie.
Crymsonblaze 02.11.13	I love CitW far more than Tucker and Dale, but both are great. And both have Whedon ties, so that's always a plus.
BillTheButcher 02.12.13	i have seen tucker and dale and loved every second of it. i need to own tucker and dale...
Dreamflight 02.12.13	Amour. Terrific acting and beautiful message, but the movie itself is one hell of a boring experience. Those two hours felt like six.
Jennifer22 02.12.13	Three was over-rated?
KerfuffleinaHussle 02.17.13	Cabin in the Woods was pretty cool I thought. The rest, fair enough, but I have to admit I enjoyed Expendables 2 in a sort of "laughably-bad" way
theacademy 02.17.13	"I get Cabin in the Woods, I just don't understand what the big deal with it is. Sure, it defies logic by killing off characters in unsuspecting ways and it lets the characters that you least expect to live... live, but I still found it to be pretty formulaic. Take out the behind-the-scenes puppeteering and you're left with just another middle of the road horror flick with some funny bits." you are obviously very dumb and you shouldn't be permitted to breed with healthy females
Cygnatti 02.17.13	"I get Cabin in the Woods, I just don't understand what the big deal with it is. Sure, it defies logic by killing off characters in unsuspecting ways and it lets the characters that you least expect to live... live, but I still found it to be pretty formulaic. Take out the behind-the-scenes puppeteering and you're left with just another middle of the road horror flick with some funny bits." I haven't seen the movie but your desc makes it sound pretty darn good
KerfuffleinaHussle 02.18.13	"Take out the behind-the-scenes puppeteering and you're left with just another middle of the road horror flick with some funny bits." Take out the part of the movie that makes it original and interesting and you're left with a generic, uninteresting movie...Yeah well no shit, that's kinda not the point..
DamnVanne 02.18.13	breaking benjamin is gay dude you must be like 30
MeatSalad 02.18.13	all of these movies got around like 6-7 out of 10, how in the fuck are they overrated
theacademy 02.18.13	Truman show is lesser niccol tho... it kinda sucks
NorwichScene 02.18.13	My opinions: THE HUNGER GAMES - Great movie, trilogy will be excellent 8/10 THE CABIN IN THE WOODS - Loved it, elevator scene was epic 8/10 THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN - Not as good as original 7/10 THE EXPENDABLES 2 - Laughable 6/10 PROMETHEUS - Average 5/10
NorwichScene 02.18.13	p.s. Tucker and Dale is hilarious 9/10