rodrigo90: I wish I was stuck in the early 00's

Avagantamos 09.19.22	the early 2000s was my favorite era for music, but now I'm not so sure
conesmoke 09.19.22	Are you a barbie girl? ... in... in a barbie world?
oltnabrick 09.19.22	same
combustion07 09.19.22	C'mon barbie let's go party Ahhh ahhh ahhh ya
zakalwe 09.19.22	Early 2000s is when everything went shit. There was still the odd film and book that came out that was excellent but other than that it was all downhill.
DoofDoof 09.19.22	...as partially evidenced by this very list
osmark86 09.19.22	never apologize for 18
osmark86 09.19.22	but yeah, this list is pretty accurate as to what I jammed around the cusp of the millenia. very accurate.
combustion07 09.19.22	My sister was obsessed with No Doubt in this era and I get a lot of nostalgia from them as a side effect. Mostly revisit s/t and Tragic Kingdom though. Will have to give Return to Saturn a relisten. Don't think I've heard anything from it since back then
osmark86 09.19.22	had that Tragic Kingdom album on CD too. one of my first albums.
StormChaser 09.19.22	early 00s were a musical tragedy it's very telling when Coldplay's album is the best thing on the list (Play is from the 90s)
IsisScript80 09.19.22	"Early 2000s is when everything went shit." "...as partially evidenced by this very list" it's very telling when Coldplay's album is the best thing on the list (Play is from the 90s)" A LOT of this list is from the '90s.
z00sh 09.19.22	barbie girl slaps. nothing to be ashamed of lol
Colton 09.19.22	you are stuck in the early 00's my friend
Assemblage 09.19.22	5 is the best on this list, but early aughts was prollly best.
Hyperion1001 09.19.22	everything in the past is much worse than you remember it
DocSportello 09.19.22	as of today, September 19, 2022 is the best time to be alive
DocSportello 09.19.22	but also if it's true, as i believe, that our universe was generated from a black hole's singularity, there's a very high probability you can, at some "point", absolutely find yourself stuck in the early 00's :) stay strong buddy
wham49 09.19.22	I'm cool with that, I was in college, can't get any better than that for a time period
sonictheplumber 09.19.22	i had a pretty good time in the early 2000s. there was this kid at school named rodrigo, we were always beating his ass on the playground
Josh D. 09.19.22	OP likes 9/11 smh
henryChinaski 09.19.22	those were the days
ArsMoriendi 09.19.22	I wish I was stuck in the future Maybe like 4000 years
Minortimbo12 09.19.22	IT JUST TAKES SOME TIME LITTLE GIRL YOUR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RIDE E EVERYTHING EVERYTHING WILL BE JUST FINE E EVERYTHING EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT ALRIGHT
rodrigo90 09.20.22	Maybe like 4000 years Just to hope muse making good music again
rodrigo90 09.20.22	OP likes 9/11 smh I hated that shit. They cut the mtv channel just to show the 9/11 bullshit. I was 11 and I couldn't care less for what was happening in the U.S. at the time.
rodrigo90 09.20.22	everything in the past is much worse than you remember it I depends on how much you filter those memories too.
rodrigo90 09.20.22	A LOT of this list is from the '90s. Yeah I couldn't decide if the title to be "late 90's" or "early 00's" and I said "fuck it, early 00's". But remember that back in the day videos took like a year to be aired at least in this part of the globe.
rodrigo90 09.20.22	Don't think I've heard anything from it since back then I might give "rock steady" a spin but meh....they didn't even care to come to my country. Fucking Gwen
rodrigo90 09.20.22	the early 2000s was my favorite era for music, but now I'm not so sure When you think that a few years later metalcore was going to be the next thing....yeah I take the nu-metal fever of the late 90's any day
wham49 09.20.22	I'm not sure what year it came out, but I remember jamming Fun Lovin Criminals/Come find yourself a lot during these years We were all wacked on the Scooby snacks
BlondeGuardian 09.20.22	"Early 2000s is when everything went shit. There was still the odd film and book that came out that was excellent but other than that it was all downhill." This is true, but the culture has deteriorated so much more since then that I can't help feeling a fondness for the early 2000s. It also contained the last mainstream rock song with a riff that even my mother can remember (Seven Nation Army)
Minortimbo12 09.20.22	when our mama sang us to sleep but now we're stressed out
StormChaser 09.20.22	it's even more ridiculous and revolting in writing than when sung
IsisScript80 09.20.22	"This is true, but the culture has deteriorated so much more since then that I can't help feeling a fondness for the early 2000s." This is literally, the rose-tinted spiel of every single generation who've lost touch with modern popular culture. Thing is, '90s and 2000s were stockpiled with bullshit too, being nostalgic for it is selective memory.
Josh D. 09.20.22	Nostalgia is annoying to me, but just to be clear, the music on this list is terrible so it's extra bad.
Egarran 09.20.22	I giggle every time this is on the frontpage because it says 'I wish i was stuck in the earl'. It's just classic humor.
Josh D. 09.20.22	i am the nightmare was the most unfortunate version of that
BlondeGuardian 09.20.22	IsisScript80, how much crap was in each decade is not the whole story. What matters most is how high the highest highs are, and I have difficulty believing that mostly comes down to nostalgia. You mentioned popular culture, so let's purely consider the Billboard top 40 in random years from a couple different decades. In June 1974 (https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/1974-06-08/), the top 40 alone spans genres from funk, to rock, to pop, and several things in between. Not all are timeless classics, obviously, but some are, and nothing is as unlistenable as anything by Ed Sheeran or Cardi B. Now let's go to June 2014 (https://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100/2014-06-08/). The #1 song is Fancy by Iggy Azalea. 1974's #1 is Band on the Run by Wings. The closest thing to a rock song on that list is Counting Stars by OneRepublic. If you do any such comparison between the 60s, 70s, 80s, or 90s, with the 00s (which I am fond of, but it has mountains of chaff and very little wheat) or 2010s, the 00s and 2010s will always come out looking worse in terms of quality and variety. I haven't brought up anything regarding underground or non-mainstream music, because they have no broad cultural significance unless they eventually leak into the mainstream, and I don't see that happening in recent times. There are many artists and bands better than Imagine Dragons and Ed Sheeran, but they will never be a part of the lives of normal people who aren't already "into music" to an unusual degree. I think this is a very bad thing, and it is the direct result of societal changes. But you're probably right that I have rose-tinted glasses and am out of touch, so if you feel like arguing on the Internet about this, I will try to be open-minded.
SitarHero 09.20.22	Hey hey heeeeeyyyyy Honestly, there are decades where I'd much rather have been young, but I'll take being young in the early '00s over being old in pretty much any other time.
wham49 09.20.22	"This is true, but the culture has deteriorated so much more since then that I can't help feeling a fondness for the early 2000s. It also contained the last mainstream rock song with a riff that even my mother can remember (Seven Nation Army)" Imagine how the people felt who were in their mid 20's during these year. We had somewhat of a cool 80's 90's culture, the early 00's came and it as ok, then nothing, complete wasteland of anything cool, we miss the days when things that came out were cool and not attached to a superhero or disney. at least the under 30 crowd dont really know what they are missing
Minortimbo12 09.20.22	6 is good only
IsisScript80 09.20.22	@BlondeGuardian: I appreciate the time you took with your response, and the chart lists you provided. I get the point you're making, but there is a wider consideration at play in how we consume media en masse, via the channels that are available and the knock-on effects of a much lessened influence of record labels. The Internet has massively disseminated media; there are far fewer acts that come through that make it to genuine "household name" status (biggest recently that come to mind are Billie Eilish, Dua Lipa, Olivia Rodrigo... others I'm sure, but offhand, not many), but this goes massively contrary to prior eras that actively cultivated stars that were genuinely famous (using the tactic of ramming them down our throats... because they were massively able to). It's amusing in this sense, that an industry as superficial and historically ageist as this--one that spent the first decades of my life pumping out endless boy/girl bands--is still reliant on people who were famous and sexy then, to keep traction--as they're now comfortably into their mid-late forties. Even now, I go on YouTube... something I've never heard of: 52 million views. Something I'd guess would be niche: Over a million. Everyone is consuming different media of THEIR choosing, as and when they wish to. What was file sharing, giving way to legal streaming services and the like... everything is there, hence no overriding pattern. So when you say these phrases: "What matters most is how high the highest highs are", and "I haven't brought up anything regarding underground or non-mainstream music", it's all disseminated and all equally accessible, and with the slightest push, e.g. Kate Bush with 'Stranger Things', her whole back catalogue is a button press away along with suggestions for "if you like this, they these artists" like Tori Amos. Basically, what is classified as mainstream is rarely ever the "highest highs", it always takes a modicum of effort to get at the good stuff and has never been served on a plate, but now we're in an age where the slightest bit of research can yield an incredible wealth of good shit that wasn't to hand a decade-or-so ago. The trade-off though, I agree, that in this age of everything vying for attention, crass, meme shit is more prevalent just to stick out, but that gets quickly forgotten and good is still good.
BlondeGuardian 09.21.22	wham49, that's concentrated truth man, just add water IsisScript80, I appreciate your thoughtful response also. I can't disagree with most of what you've written; only on whether the current situation of music dissemination and consumption is overall worse than the old one. I don't mean to say it's all bad, since I and others obviously benefit from having all music readily available, but it mainly seems good for discovering old music (as in your example of Running Up That Hill going to the top of the charts after the Stranger Things feature), not for promoting new growth. Maybe I have such strongly rose-tinted glasses that I'm unable to appreciate new music, but I seriously wonder if the current music paradigm is causing some creative malaise in young artists who are even slightly non-conformist. Even the most talented and lucky appear to be destined to produce for a niche audience forever, and never break through to any widespread recognition; which I'm sure is partially because the old record labels, which still have some star-making power, have become more risk-averse than ever. I would literally never hear about 99% of the new albums and bands that get top reviews on music sites unless I actively looked for them. I guess this is pointless whining though because there's no going back to the old paradigm. I would gladly read your and anyone else's opinion if you feel like writing more.
IsisScript80 09.21.22	^ Yeah, the paradigm shift is profound, and I do agree that within that it is simultaneously extremely easy for an artist to get material out AND very much harder for them to become anywhere near as financially successful as they could have done via the old model. Music-makers now who aim for genuine innovation are really doing it as a labour of love, so when something new IS good, I give full credit and attempt to purchase/support their Bandcamps or whatnot, but no, it doesn't bode well for a viable career and that fact is sad. It's just the nature of time progression; personally, I'm not really one for nostalgia as I've always felt and tried to balance the pros and cons of every period I've lived through, and in terms of then and now, the access to media of my own choosing was a dream of mine growing up, as I was keenly aware of the dreck I felt was being force-fed through the narrow channels of '90s British culture, and those willing to control the narrative. Ultimately, I think that my main point is that every era has its massive pluses and hefty drawbacks. This era has a myriad of drawbacks, but so did everything prior... the problems were different, but still very much there.. Pining for days gone, is IMO, simply cherry-picking those memories. Those who are young now, will be nostalgic for this time, and so on and so on.
chemicalmarriage 09.21.22	Who is earl and why do you wish you were stuck in the earl
BlondeGuardian 09.21.22	IsisScript80: All good points regarding nostalgia. I think a little pining for the past is healthy, but not so much that one loses perspective, for sure. I appreciated reading your viewpoint on this topic.
IsisScript80 09.21.22	^ Indeed, I think that's a fair balance. And I too have appreciated your engagement and consideration on this. :)
rodrigo90 09.21.22	I giggle every time this is on the frontpage because it says 'I wish i was stuck in the earl'. I had a different title, but word limit in the title is a bitch.