Spec: When Did a Band Betray You?

Spec 01.22.21	May or may not be inspired by some new songs I’ve heard from a band a really like....
el_newg 01.22.21	not Turbo that's for sure
Spec 01.22.21	i posted this during uk time fuck
budgie 01.22.21	5 rules stupid nerd
Trundle 01.22.21	Opeth - Heritage Death From Above 1979 - The physical world Lamb of God - Resolution The Faceless - Autotheism Rakim - The Seventh Seal Mastodon - Blood Mountain Hot take: Be'lakor - Vessels, was really disappointed with the production on this, but i'm still on their mailing list and a couple weeks back i got an email with an update saying a new album is on the way, i hope they return to the glory of their first 3 LP's, i'm pretty certain they will.
zakalwe 01.22.21	Pearl Jam charging ludicrous prices for tickets
Cygnatti 01.22.21	10 rules stupid nerd
MillionDead 01.22.21	10 definitely sucks
JohnnyoftheWell 01.22.21	"Opeth - Heritage" uh "Mastodon - Blood Mountain" UH
fogza 01.22.21	I dunno if one would call it "selling out", but hearing the Arcade Fire's Everything Now made me think they a) actively dislike their fans, or b) are way too into themselves.
porcupinetheater 01.22.21	Glass Animals just soiled their sheets with the album last year
Dwap 01.22.21	Final Cut ain’t that bad
rage11111ro 01.22.21	1 is hard to beat in this series
JeremiahBullfrog 01.22.21	Suicide Silence, I was the biggest fan for the longest time, Mitch's death really hurt me, I was there from the cleansing etc. When Mitch Died and they released you cant stop me i was like meh whatever man its not great but... Then they released that self titled shit, literally a garage band knock off of Deftones! and then to make matters worse went on a tirade against the fans who were angry!
AsleepInTheBack 01.22.21	frank turner's taken a turn for the worse in the last few years 2 and 6 as well
Sharenge 01.22.21	when those nice boys The Beatles started making that darned trippy hippy music and smokin' the reefer, well I just about flipped a biscuit... I guess that's just the way the mop flops
keaton_86 01.22.21	It's called "doing a bloc party" and it's called that because of the album hymns - An album so bad it makes you hate their previous work that you liked. Bob moses' battle lines is another one.
Intothepit 01.22.21	Awww Spec... are you finally realizing Architects is kind of shit?
JeremiahBullfrog 01.22.21	RIP to all the Lostprophets fans tho lmao
unclereich 01.22.21	escape the fate when they didn't just go on hiatus when Ronnie was in prison and instead let Craig Mabbit join and ruin the band. ahhh to be a teen again
Pikazilla 01.22.21	When that one member of TBS fucked Lacey's gf, so the gimp went to form Brand New
rufinthefury 01.22.21	Mr. Lif took a SHARP fucking turn on his most recent album that im not cool with at all
chemicalmarriage 01.22.21	Vessels - Dilate
RogueNine 01.22.21	Pallbearer went south.
butt. 01.22.21	Underoath. That’s all I’m going to say. Goodbye.
Titan 01.22.21	Queensryche - Dedicated To Chaos......for the broken heart, even though they were on the decline prior. That album was the final nail.
BlazinBlitzer 01.22.21	Hopesfall - Arbiter and Brockhampton - Ginger Those were total nosedives compared to their previous stuff; I felt pretty sad after listening to those. The best answer is Lostprophets [2], though.
johnnyblaze 01.22.21	minus the bear - omni chance the rapper - idk what the album is called its that bad
Josh D. 01.22.21	a band has never...betrayed? me
ReturnToRock 01.22.21	Metallica - St Anger Green Day - American Idiot (I've come around on it since though) Green Day - !Dos! Slipknot - Iowa (again, I've come round on it since) Slipknot - Vol. 3 Three Days Grace - Life Starts Now The Offspring - Splinter Ramones - Pleasant Dreams
ArsMoriendi 01.22.21	idk about selling out, but Pixies - Indy Cindy and everything they've done since has been terrible
WalrusTusk 01.22.21	Really the only band that I feel has disappointed me is Mastodon. EoS was a step in the right direction but I really don't believe they will ever make an album as good as their fist four.
hel9000 01.22.21	everybody betray me, i’m fed up with this world.
botb 01.22.21	Code orange post I am king (and even during it some)
botulist 01.22.21	never, because i'm not a delusional 9-year old?
neekafat 01.22.21	Cringe yeah
JohnnyoftheWell 01.22.21	literally all your favourite bands have betrayed their entire fanbase at least once and you're not even gonna tip your hat just a lil bit hm
WalrusTusk 01.22.21	It sounds like botulist has betrayed their self.
PurpleDino 01.22.21	when pianos become the teeth stopped screaming I was really bummed out
botb 01.22.21	“ never, because i'm not a delusional 9-year old?” Man shut the fuck up nerd
outliers 01.22.21	may not be a "sellout" but Turnover post Peripheral Vision broke my heart
evilford 01.22.21	The final cut is a low key classic im sorry to inform you
kalkwiese 01.22.21	BFMV was sellout from the start lol
CaliggyJack 01.22.21	Bastille abandoned their beautiful, lush orchestral baroque pop on their first album for EDM-filled trash and it hurt my soul
evilford 01.22.21	I will chime in with Mastodon - The Hunter
Snake. 01.22.21	yeah the only bands that have broken my heart are the ones that revealed themselves to be shitty men cloaked in a crocodile tears facade if they make a shitty album w/e i can just choose not to listen to it and go on with my day
Josh D. 01.22.21	that sounds correct
evilford 01.22.21	True
Sevengill 01.22.21	"I will chime in with Mastodon - The Hunter" came here to say this.
evilford 01.22.21	I was legit pissed when I heard the hunter lol. Black tongue was on and I was like ok sweet. Then curl of the burl came on and I was like what in the blue fuck is this
evilford 01.22.21	I wouldn't say they "betrayed" me. Album has nothing to do with me. I just didn't want them to go that direction. Still jam other mastodon
Scoot 01.22.21	the correct answer is jacobi wichita bonez malone is a phenomenal debut but then the singer had to go tank their careers by commiting violent sexual assault
ieatbabies795 01.22.21	Letlive. If I’m the Devil Trash album
Scoot 01.22.21	letlive majorly fucked up by remastering fake history (an album that already sounded fine) and not the blackest beautiful which sounded like farting into a tin can
Scoot 01.22.21	oh yeah and how could i forget dredg - chuckles and mr squeezy
kalkwiese 01.22.21	"Opeth - Heritage" If Opeth sold out any more on that album they'd be a flavour in Starbucks lol. Heritage was ober the top commercial, like, you could hum every track, lalala it's always the same melody and sounds way too happy. Edit: Uh, it's a list of "sell out" albums, but the title is about betrayal ... I guess mentioning Heritage is kinda legit?
Trundle 01.22.21	ya ^kalk, i was confused too.
AlexKzillion 01.22.21	Idk if "betrayed" is the right word... but I've just been turned off by the direction Brockhampton took post-Ameer (Ginger in particular). The music is fine... but they've strayed so far from what originally made me fall in love with them in 2017. Just isn't really for me anymore.
Trundle 01.22.21	i just listed albums from bands i really enjoyed, but after those ones, their work never felt the same, cept Be'lakor obvs, still haven't released their follow up
americanohno 01.22.21	when arghoslent did an interview and said they were voting for obama in the 08 elections... :-(
Trundle 01.22.21	^hahahaha and then after the election they re-iterated that they vote for him @americanohno
onionbubs 01.22.21	snake is spot on. i can deal w bad albums from bands i like bc i can just not listen to them. hurts way way more when i find out someone whos music is so close to my heart is an absolute piece of shit, which has completely ruined a handful of bands who used to be really important to me
SailorMars 01.22.21	Never been betrayed to a band, cause a band never owed me anything.
sonictheplumber 01.22.21	curl of the burl is so bad. the hunter is definitely mastodons black album but worse
gschwen 01.22.21	I dunno how people get excited by Weezer anymore. Blue album is a top tier 5 album; the real betrayal is that they bothered to make anything in the 21st century. Rivers Cuomo is just cashing checks at this point while some of you get duped out of your shekels. Today I saw a guy on Discord post a picture of his new Teal Album vinyl like fucking idiot. Objectively bad music. Sickos.
SailorMars 01.22.21	Teal Albums slaps
sonictheplumber 01.22.21	i havent heard any weezer since hurley i assume its all lame
BigBlob 01.22.21	"When Did a Band Betray You?" When Limp Bizkit didnt release Stampede of the Disco Elephants
GreyShadow 01.22.21	Hands Like Houses - Dissonants The Word Alive - Real. that unfortunately kinda grew on me so let's say Violent Noise
ieatbabies795 01.22.21	“i can deal w bad albums from bands i like bc i can just not listen to them. hurts way way more when i find out someone whos music is so close to my heart is an absolute piece of shit“ I won’t even listen to Kanye’s pre Yeezus stuff cause yeah fuck that guy and all the people that won’t stop with the “bUt HEs a gEniUs” crap
GreyShadow 01.22.21	Radiohead - The King of Limbs everything went downhill with this shit fest. the grating "sounds" of Feral are enough to make this one of the worst albums not only in Radiohead's discography but for all music. and all their albums since then have followed suit in the worst possible way. make radiohead great again. loved A Moon Shaped Pool though
Hyperion1001 01.22.21	the first band to disappoint me was honestly system of a down. back around the 5th and 6th grade (10/11 years old) SOAD was my absolute favorite band. self-titled, toxicity, and steal this album, i had a little blue and green CD walkman and i must have played those albums hundreds of times. i had tab books so i could learn all the songs, tshirts from hot topic, everything. i was an SOAD megafan. then they announced they were coming out with a new album, called mesmerize. i was more excited than i had been for just about anything up to that point. i even went as far as to preorder it from walmart (small town so it was legit the only place to buy music). i had already heard BYOB a thousand times on the radio because it got massive airplay on my local rock station, and i wasnt super into it but even then i knew the radio tunes were usually the lamer ones, so i was still stoked. i remember the day it came out vividly. i got home, put it in my walkman, laid in bed with headphones in and hit play. and i hated it. i was so beyond disappointed. i hated the guitarists vocals, which were everywhere on that record. i hated the way it sounded. the songs sounded like someone doing bad covers of better SOAD tunes. serj sucked, the riffs sucked, everything sucked. god, i was so bummed. i tried for a few weeks to force myself to like it but i just couldnt. i hated that record and i still do (probably because i have such negative emotions associated with it). it was so bad that i didnt even bother listening to hypnotize, and still to this day havent listened to it. that was the first album i ever heard that taught me that even your favorite things have the potential to massively disappoint you in ways you couldnt even predict.
ieatbabies795 01.22.21	Don’t know why I didn’t think of Refused earlier They showed they were some kind of fluke with their reunion, no wonder their second guitarist didn’t stay in the band due to musical differences
gschwen 01.22.21	"Radiohead - The King of Limbs ... everything went downhill with this shit fest." ... "and all their albums since then have followed suit in the worst possible way. make radiohead great again. loved A Moon Shaped Pool though" A moon shaped pool is the only album after King of Limbs.
Spec 01.22.21	“Never been betrayed to a band, cause a band never owed me anything.” i mean betray in a joking way omg pretend the list is titled “when did a band you like make an album you didn’t like”
Trundle 01.22.21	" i mean betray in a joking way omg pretend the list is titled “when did a band you like make an album you didn’t like” imagine not picking up on that hahaha
Get Low 01.22.21	Carly Rae Jepsen - Dedicated
BookoftheFallen 01.22.21	I was a really big atreyu fan in high school. I would have felt betrayed by atreyu - in our wake if I still cared about that band now. Shining - animal corelia - new wilderness in flames - battles
Spec 01.22.21	@hyperion thats interesting i would have thought it would be hypnotize
dbizzles 01.22.21	Portugal. the Man slowly moved more mainstream, but when they dropped Woodstock (AKA Coachella the Album) I lost every ounce of respect for them. Big shame as they were really productive and changing their sound constantly early on.
Kompys2000 01.22.21	One time The Rolling Stones ratted me out to the cops, I'll never forgive ol' Mick for that one
Spec 01.22.21	“letlive majorly fucked up by remastering fake history (an album that already sounded fine) and not the blackest beautiful which sounded like farting into a tin can“ ya that was dumb cause blackest beautiful still has the energy to satisfy my fake history craving
Emim 01.22.21	The Showdown First album was a messy bit of fun, then they went full Kansas on the next one. Never really got back after that.
americanohno 01.22.21	@Emim i kinna like backbreaker more than obliteration but there other two (i think) albums suck hard yeah
TheAntichrist 01.22.21	does it count as betrayal if i never liked a band to begin with?
Intothepit 01.22.21	Basically every metalcore band besides Converge, Shai Hulud, and Poison the Well.
Sevengill 01.22.21	"Album has nothing to do with me. I just didn't want them to go that direction." I mean yeah they aren't obligated to make a certain style, but The Hunter felt fast and cheap, like b-sides thrown together to sell an easily-digestible product after four albums that had a mythic quality and challenged the audience to dive deep and explore. I wasn't mad, just disappointed. very disappointed.
Closk 01.22.21	Green Day man, I f#€&%n loved them. Then there was "Warning" . I thought it was blip. The came "American Idiot". Then came everythung else. Crap. Pure and utter crap.
EoinCofa 01.23.21	Metallica has to be here; take your pick of any album after Justice. Lulu doesn’t count though, that’s a Lou Reed abomination. The first 4 Metallica albums are stone cold killers!
Kompys2000 01.23.21	Some of the best music writing I've ever encountered were the two reviews Mark Prindle wrote for Lulu- one where he blamed the album's failure all on Lou Reed, and one where he blamed it all on Metallica http://markprindle.com/reed.htm#lulu http://markprindle.com/metallia.htm#lulu
MattIsCromulent 01.23.21	In Flames. Every time I listen to their first 4 (maybe 5) the wound gets reopened. That re-recording of Clayman was a kick in the nuts I knew was coming, but did nothing to avoid it, so that one's on me.
ArsMoriendi 01.23.21	Whatever happened to the user Betray ayway
ieatbabies795 01.23.21	I think he had a thread asking us to kill him last I heard
rifkadm 01.23.21	Bruh Metallica sold out a long time before Lulu even dropped out of their asses lol Gotta agree with whoever said it was St. Anger
rifkadm 01.23.21	Also Green Day definitely sold out with 21st Century Breakdown
JohnnyoftheWell 01.23.21	Opeth could have coasted happily for the rest of their career off their pushover hEAvee pR0g fanbase lmao, Heritage was far from a sellout; much closer to the total opposite as it unapologetically alienated half their fanbase and finally aligned the band with the music they loved best. Y'all didn't deserve it. GreyShadow's TKOL take is so atrocious that it doesn't deserve a detailed response. Go listen to fewer bands who rip off the Bends and more who rip off Kid A and idk, read a book or something. ""sounds"" pah
Colton 01.23.21	Pixies by writing Debaser but then making the rest of Doolittle very mid
PopsicleBob 01.23.21	there are some other good songs on doolittle...
EoinCofa 01.23.21	Umm... It was the Black album; everything after Justice sucks balls; long before St Anger!!!!! Now I’m angry
JohnnyoftheWell 01.23.21	The thought of Colton as a straggly Surfer Rosa reppin indie hippie who suddenly felt betrayed by Doolittle of all albums on release is hilarious Tbh every other Pixies album is underwhelming in some way or another so maybe they do count
Colton 01.23.21	the hilarious part being that I would rep Surfer Rosa
JohnnyoftheWell 01.23.21	yes that was indeed the joke
JohnnyoftheWell 01.23.21	also between AJFA and the Black alb Metallica went from being an unlistenable band with too many ideas to a listenable band with no ideas, which seems like a fair trade to me
sixdegrees 01.23.21	Everyone betrays me eventually...
kalkwiese 01.23.21	sixmengrees
sixdegrees 01.23.21	Sigh.......
PopsicleBob 01.23.21	^thats the only time this website has made me laugh
Emim 01.23.21	"@Emim i kinna like backbreaker more than obliteration but there other two (i think) albums suck hard yeah" Backbreaker has some good stuff and some really cringy stuff. The updated version of Give Us This Day is their best song imo, though.
Shemson 01.23.21	I remember being really really hyped for a new Eminem album after playing SSLP and MMLP over and over as a teenager. Think I was about 14 or 15 when the single came out with him and Dre goofing around as Batman and Robin and I thought ‘ok it’s dumb but it’s fun which is the same as My Name Is and Real Slim Shady’ so I thought it would still be a good raw album with a few dumb cuts. Nah
Avagantamos 01.23.21	linkin park was my favorite band in elementary school so minutes to midnight was pretty rough for me
ReturnToRock 01.23.21	I didn't listen to Minutes in 'real time' or it would probably have happened. Then again, Linkin had already betrayed me with Live in Texas. The Eminem one almost made my list, but I was too old to care for Eminem anymore at the time - I had moved on to being a full rock and metalhead and left most of my high school albums behind. Also whoever told that SOAD story up above - that was almost exactly my experience spinning Iowa for the first time, at age 16 or so.
Spec 01.24.21	“does it count as betrayal if i never liked a band to begin with?“ absolutely not
Spec 01.24.21	“Linkin had already betrayed me with Live in Texas.” wait why was a live album betrayal?
Emim 01.24.21	I think they spliced together the best bits of different shows or something. It's not just a recording of that one show in Texas.
Emim 01.24.21	It's still got some of my favorite versions of their songs though.
Spec 01.29.21	the new architects album has a dance song on it lets pack it in boys
kalkwiese 01.29.21	That could be more interesting than their first two singles tbh
budgie 01.29.21	"also between AJFA and the Black alb Metallica went from being an unlistenable band with too many ideas to a listenable band with no ideas, which seems like a fair trade to me" lol. metallica in 89 was not unlistenable
aydross121 01.29.21	im an opeth fan actually
Underflow 01.29.21	Gorguts - Colored Sands
aydross121 01.29.21	^ m8 are u ok?
Spec 01.29.21	“im an opeth fan actually” i dont listen to pop music
Spec 01.29.21	“That could be more interesting than their first two singles tbh“ not really just a drunk singalong for live shows the album sounds like linkin park/bmth for the most part
Lord(e)Po)))ts 01.29.21	Budgie b like "varg betrayed me when he didn't kill all the jews"
protokute 01.29.21	Bands can do whatever the hell they want, but I can't say I haven't felt immensely frustrated with every Incubus album after Light Grenades, I used to worship them in my teenage years, and they were my entry gate to a world of interesting stuff, not only music, so it was really hard to cope with the fact that they probably will never make something nearly as good as their Science~Morning View phase.
Spec 01.29.21	ya i know bands can do whatever they want why do people keep telling me that
ResidentNihilist 01.29.21	When Heathen first released an album
kalkwiese 01.29.21	"not really just a drunk singalong for live shows the album sounds like linkin park/bmth for the most part" Ew, sucks. Part of me still hopes that it's secretly good tbh, but after Holy Hell and listening to a lot of stuff that's just more interesting than Architects in general, I really shouldn't expect anything tbh. Animals was boring as hell