andcas: Who Are You Voting For

andcas 01.29.12	I kinda like ron paul though I know he's far too reasonable to be elected.
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	I'm not voting for a major party i've already decided that. As for who exactly i'm still deciding.
TomArnoldsArmpit 01.29.12	idk the donald?
Relinquished 01.29.12	i'm out for dead presidents to represent this country
Emim 01.29.12	probably geddy lee
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	that guy from lamg of god
andcas 01.29.12	I'm not in too much of a rush to vote for geddy lee. heyo.
illmitch 01.29.12	obama. i'm a lifelong democrat and his policies most closely match my beliefs.
UnnamedOcean 01.29.12	Lol voting. I'm not voting to support this shit.
IAmHollywood 01.29.12	vermin supreme
andcas 01.29.12	I'm neutral to obama. I don't hate him but I don't love him.
taxidermist 01.29.12	Ron Paul.
eternium 01.29.12	Depends on how close to election is. If it is close then I'll play safe and vote Obama just to help keep either Newt or Mitt from winning. If it isn't close at all I'll probably vote Green Party or something.
andcas 01.29.12	I'm definitely not a fan of newt. I don't know that much about romney.
Trebor17 01.29.12	not a republican ever for ever and never
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	romney is a mormon thats enough to not vote for him
andcas 01.29.12	yeah screw that then.
jefflebowski 01.29.12	Obama, just because the GOP candidates are so much worse. Paul is well intentioned and has integrity but also has some pretty mental policies
andcas 01.29.12	what about his policies do you find mental?
AsoTamaki 01.29.12	Yeah, vote for Obama. Anyone else will destroy the country even more.
Blackbelt54 01.29.12	I'm not a huge Obama fan but none of the GOP candidates seem very good
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	his public education policies are laughable, as well as his ideas on what role state government should play (or how much role they should take really). paul that is
JWT155 01.29.12	I'm voting for 'Merica.
JWT155 01.29.12	All ofem.
eternium 01.29.12	It's funny that the people that want "state rights" the most are generally from shitty states.
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	ie states that want the us to become a theocracy. which is exactly why giving states too many rights is not a very good idea
jefflebowski 01.29.12	-abandoning the federal reserve and going back to the gold standard -basically scrapping all gun laws -against sexual harassment laws in the workplace -complete deregulation of education and welfare -extreme free-marketeer
eternium 01.29.12	Because your state ends up looking like Mississippi or Texas.
eternium 01.29.12	Ron Paul has a fetish for the gold standard. Stupid Austrian economics.
andcas 01.29.12	my only issue with obama is he's back pedaled on a lot of his promises. I do think it's kinda fucked how there's no better option it seems at this point.
jefflebowski 01.29.12	(policies of Ron Paul i seriously disagree with)
EyeForAnEye 01.29.12	I like Ron Paul, I'll vote for him. But any rational person will agree that Obama will get re-relected regardless of the GOP's nomination. Obama is HUGE with more than three fourths of people. The only reason the GOP looks big right now is because they're getting a lot of airtime. That's it. They're big, but not as big as they seem.
eternium 01.29.12	Because where Obama backpedaled was into Republican policies, whether it was giving into Congress or continuing what Bush started.
jefflebowski 01.29.12	oh, and he also thinks 'climate change is not a major problem'
EyeForAnEye 01.29.12	jefflebowski The regulation of weapons have made the situation worse.
Trebor17 01.29.12	Why do dumbass hicks continue to vote republican even though they make less than $250,000 a year? Oh yeah cuz they dumb
eternium 01.29.12	Because they are social conservatives. You either vote Republican because you're rich or you're religious.
EyeForAnEye 01.29.12	Aint nothin' wrong with being rich.
jefflebowski 01.29.12	'The regulation of weapons have made the situation worse' [citation needed]
Trebor17 01.29.12	How can anyone still be socially conservative in this day and age, like fuck it's not the 50's anymore
eternium 01.29.12	Everything wrong with being rich and paying your employees next to nothing.
eternium 01.29.12	'The regulation of weapons have made the situation worse' http://megafrontier.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/us-violent-crime-rate.png
jefflebowski 01.29.12	to paraphrase shakira, graphs don't lie
Trebor17 01.29.12	I put like more than half of these albums on a list a couple weeks ago Nice
jefflebowski 01.29.12	yeah, aside from the topic at hand this list rules hard
Trebor17 01.29.12	guns are for pussies
eternium 01.29.12	I don't mind personal use of handguns but no sane person wants to own a fucking AK-47.
jefflebowski 01.29.12	you never know when an anti-tank gun might come in handy though
Trebor17 01.29.12	If I shot and killed an intruder over him stealing my shit that I don't need I don't think I'd be able to live with myself
EyeForAnEye 01.29.12	Both were jokes. I fucking love guns though. I believe in screening and background checks and all that shit. But, I don't think a state has the right to completely take away your gun. But AK's are fun. You're not a man until you've shot an AK.
wabbit 01.29.12	"complete deregulation of education and welfare" I mean he's just getting rid of it on a federal level. Canada has the best overall public education system in the world and it doesn't touch the federal goverment (and our federal government plays a way "bigger" role than in the US system). Also your public education system should probably just be scrapped together. I really have no good opinion over welfare, I know it gets incredibly abused where I live and he has said that it wouldn't be phased out for a long time. "-abandoning the federal reserve and going back to the gold standard" I'm not a economist but Ron Paul really seems to know his shit here more than any politician I have ever heard. But I can tell that the Federal Reserve is pretty fucking awful ie printing money so the US has more money. "-against sexual harassment laws in the workplace" I really don't think in this day and age we need the government babysitting companies on internal policy plus your constitution will protect basic rights. "-extreme free-marketeer" this seems to be the better opinion than wall street having congress in their pockets like they do now.
eternium 01.29.12	Sorry, I don't need a massive weapon to make me forget about how small my dick is like some people do.
EyeForAnEye 01.29.12	AKs arent huge though
jefflebowski 01.29.12	'I'm not a economist but Ron Paul really seems to know his shit here more than any politician I have ever heard. But I can tell that the Federal Reserve is pretty fucking awful ie printing money so the US has more money' correct me if i'm wrong, but seeing as the US doesn't have anywhere near the value of gold to back its economy, you'd presumably have to shrink the GDP hugely to be able to do it. 'I really don't think in this day and age we need the government babysitting companies on internal policy plus your constitution will protect basic rights.' seeing as this kind of thing is still relatively commonplace, evidently we do. 'this seems to be the better opinion than wall street having congress in their pockets like they do now' they wouldn't need congress in their pockets if you established a true free market. wall street has proven that it can't effectively regulate itself
andcas 01.29.12	no one should be able to own a fucking arsenal. that's my view point on guns.
eternium 01.29.12	Austrian economics rejects actual scientific studies of economics so it's basically a form of economics that gets pulled out of people's asses.
EyeForAnEye 01.29.12	Creationism Economics!
andcas 01.29.12	only thing I don't like about democrats is they always want to raise taxes.
wabbit 01.29.12	"correct me if i'm wrong, but seeing as the US doesn't have anywhere near the value of gold to back its economy, you'd presumably have to shrink the GDP hugely to be able to do it." exactly "seeing as this kind of thing is still relatively commonplace, evidently we do." bitches need to stop being dumb. Economics dictates that a company would have to protect their employees or they would simply go elsewhere I guess this doesn't apply to poor untrained people "they wouldn't need congress in their pockets if you established a true free market. wall street has proven that it can't effectively regulate itself" It's still better than letting them do shit like sopa/ we have never really given them control. Paul says it would work out fine and it's obvious it needs a shake up so may as well try something new instead of just keep on doing what we were doing before.
Ovrot 01.29.12	Vermin Supreme
eternium 01.29.12	"Economics dictates that a company would have to protect their employees or they would simply go elsewhere" lol so you're a believer in the free market fairy.
Trebor17 01.29.12	only thing I don't like about democrats is they always want to raise taxes. yeah, on rich people. And how else are you going to pay for shit?
jefflebowski 01.29.12	'exactly' you realize that would have serious consequences, right? 'bitches need to stop being dumb' stopped reading here 'It's still better than letting them do shit like sopa/ we have never really given them control' sopa has precisely nothing to do with Wall Street the financial sector. Pretty much the main reason the financial crisis happened was because the banks were basically allowed to do stupid risky shit in the pursuit of profit
Trebor17 01.29.12	letting companies police themselves always works!
jefflebowski 01.29.12	'only thing I don't like about democrats is they always want to raise taxes' funny how the countries at the top of the HDI generally have the highest taxes
JWT155 01.29.12	I'm all for capitalism and the free market but you're an idiot if you support pure capitalism.
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	the problem with regulation of weapons is that if it gets too strict then only people who dont follow laws will have access to the weapons. law abiding citizens need a way to protect themselves.
andcas 01.29.12	no problems paying more taxes if it isn't for dumb shit I don't agree with.
eternium 01.29.12	Surprised at how much jeffle knows. Mitt Romney has tens of millions of dollars, possibly hundreds. His tax rate was 13.9%. Many middle class families actually pay more money than that. That is why we need to raise taxes on the rich.
Trebor17 01.29.12	They don't have guns in Japan and they have like 5 murders a year
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	you should not be able to evade taxes for any reason, i dont care how much money you give to charity. and churches too, fuck churches being tax exempt
jefflebowski 01.29.12	'Surprised at how much jeffle knows.' umm, thanks, i think
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	"They don't have guns in Japan and they have like 5 murders a year" i hate when people bring this up because its a completely different situation. japanese society is much, much different than in the unites states, and just because it works for them doesnt mean it would work here.
North0House2 01.29.12	Vermin Supreme. They guy actually seems like a genius. I think he's just ripping on politicians hardcore.
Emim 01.29.12	"They don't have guns in Japan and they have like 5 murders a year" yeah but like 3 billion people kill themselves every year
cirq 01.29.12	i dont vote, they arent really counted anyway..
jefflebowski 01.29.12	vote Colbert '12
SteelErectedb4you8er 01.29.12	People complain about having to pay taxes, but the taxes go into programs that would benefit our country...sometimes they do go to some programs that's complete bullshit like bailouts, but there is a two way street when it comes to the bailouts. Unfortunately CEOs are usually too greedy and corrupted that hurts the little people working for their company, but they should care about them. Bill Moyers has had a couple programs relating to all these issues of the lobbyist, which is sad and interesting. I am going to vote for Obama, but even Obama has had some issues revolving around the whole situation. And people sometimes do forget the president makes all the promises, and probably wants to go through with them, but he has to go through a senate and house before things officially get passed. And with our country in a 2 party battle of values and believes from two different points, it has caused him to get less done than he has promised.
jefflebowski 01.29.12	'People complain about having to pay taxes, but the taxes go into programs that would benefit our country' amazing how many people don't realize this
Cells 01.29.12	vermin supreme seems like the safest choice right now.
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	yeah, as an example, the scandinavian countries have pretty high tax rates but your education is free (even university level), your medical care is free, your retirement is covered. people bitch about paying taxes only to have to pay out of pocket for things that paying taxes would already cover
Trebor17 01.29.12	a lot of our taxes go to those faggy wars too
Cells 01.29.12	yeah those wars are just sssso gay.
jefflebowski 01.29.12	true, but that's a problem with the government spending it, not taxation as a principle
andcas 01.29.12	people would be pissed if they knew where all their tax dollars went.
Emim 01.29.12	hey yo fuck those taxes man
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	how the government spends it is a problem though, or in the case of the united states how the corporations tell the government to spend it to protect their economic interests
Trebor17 01.29.12	That awesome space station we built that we don't even use
SteelErectedb4you8er 01.29.12	I know, Jeff. People go, "I made this money, it is for me and my family only. Why must I share it with our government." And let's say they get into a situation where they can't do anything about it, go bankrupt, can't pay their mortgage, etc. I guess they don't want a government there to help them out. Yes, their people that abuse the system, but at the top, the top 1% are abusing the system of capitalism, poor people abuse the liberal system because they can. But there are those people in the middle trying to support their families, make money, give their children proper education, and do what's right, but they can't.
jefflebowski 01.29.12	'how the government spends it is a problem though, or in the case of the united states how the corporations tell the government to spend it to protect their economic interests' it's a serious problem, but i'd rather have some of my tax dollars go to waste and the rest to good causes than to pay less tax and for some of those causes to lose their funding
andcas 01.29.12	lol at the idea of government helping families in a time of financial need.
Emim 01.29.12	"That awesome space station we built that we don't even use" it should at least be weaponized
SteelErectedb4you8er 01.29.12	Well, yeah, Andcas, that isn't going to happen completely, but you know, there are programs that do help out those that are need.
eternium 01.29.12	The largest problem with our government if that it is controlled by the rich, the elite and not everyone else. So.. tax the fucking rich.
andcas 01.29.12	welfare being one of them that people abuse and I have to pay towards.
Trebor17 01.29.12	If we didn't still have that bullshit electoral college shit we would have had Gore as president and we most likely wouldn't be as fucked right now
eternium 01.29.12	The abuse of welfare is overblown like crazy. The vast majority of people on welfare actually need it and actually want to work. Unless you have kids you can only be on welfare for two years and even then you have to prove that you are at least trying to find a job.
Emim 01.29.12	"The largest problem with our government if that it is controlled by the rich, the elite and not everyone else. So.. tax the fucking rich. " oh you mean like everything ever?
auberginedreams 01.29.12	i'm definitely not voting for obama. but beyond that i'm not sure yet, none of the GOP candidates are really that likable to be honest.
Spec 01.29.12	Good people dont need laws bad people don't follow them anyway. /Anarchy
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	rich people use the idea of abuse of welfare like its the worst problem in the history of the universe what about the rich people who evade taxes? isnt that a problem too?
eternium 01.29.12	No, not everything, just make it so that they can't find some loophole to escape paying their fair share. I love the "Buffet Rule" as Obama calls it, that if you make over a million you must pay at least 30% no matter what.
Trebor17 01.29.12	If none of the candidates represent you then you shouldn't vote Also if you are uninformed (most ron paul followers)
andcas 01.29.12	I brought up welfare but that doesn't mean I don't hate other issues.
jefflebowski 01.29.12	you really should vote though, otherwise the GOP might win
jefflebowski 01.29.12	'The abuse of welfare is overblown like crazy. The vast majority of people on welfare actually need it and actually want to work' 123123123123123
Trebor17 01.29.12	Well yeah I'm voting for Obama Can't have George Bush part 3
Emim 01.29.12	pretty sure the Buffet Rule has to do with food. i never got why people have such a big problem with rich people. granted, many of them are corrupt assholes that exploit loopholes and such, but THAT is the problem, not their wealth. they shouldn't be punished for being well-off. if that's what you're saying. if not idgaf
EyeForAnEye 01.29.12	Scandinavia should be a model for most nations. Well, atleast small nations. I think the primary issue with The United States is that it is WAY too big for a government to run effectively. Everything has it's limits. India and China are fragile and Pakistan and Russia are just big messes. But small nations like Switzerland, UAE, Luxembourg, and all of Scandinavia as a whole (each nation is under 30 million strong, I believe) are some of the most developed and/or fastest growing nations. I guess an exception to this would be Japan which is a larger nation with high qualities of living.
Maniac! 01.29.12	voting for colbert
ILJ 01.29.12	Ron Paul would be the only Republican that I would vote for over Obama. Obama is bad, but the other republican candidates are far worse.
eternium 01.29.12	"you guys are completely ignoring the deficit" Stopping the war + bringing all troops home from unneeded foreign countries (like Germany) + ending Bush tax cuts on the rich + getting rid of most tax loopholes + ending a lot of corporate welfare = deficit largely fixed
andcas 01.29.12	for the people by the people is an illusion now. that's a major problem.
jefflebowski 01.29.12	'Scandinavia should be a model for most nations. Well, atleast small nations. I think the primary issue with The United States is that it is WAY too big for a government to run effectively' yeah, scandinavia rules
eternium 01.29.12	They are democratic socialist nations.
Vesper 01.29.12	Basically agree with eternium and jeffle. But this: "bitches need to stop being dumb. Economics dictates that a company would have to protect their employees or they would simply go elsewhere" So if you can't handle being sexually harassed or otherwise discriminated against, quit your job, and go somewhere else? No, seriously, fuck you.
Kris. 01.29.12	obama lesser of two evils the only republican i'd actually consider voting for is romney and he's still a piece of shit
Trebor17 01.29.12	fuck rich people that were born rich
jefflebowski 01.29.12	i don't understand all these people calling Mitt Romney a flip-flopper, he has a strong and consistent record of supporting Mitt Romney
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	mitt romney is a mormon that is all
jefflebowski 01.29.12	Mitt Romormoney
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	yes that
Emim 01.29.12	michelle obama looks like the X Woman
jefflebowski 01.29.12	at least he's not a communist nazi muslim like that O'Bama fellow
Emim 01.29.12	btw, i pronounce your name "jeffle-bow-ski"
andcas 01.29.12	vote rick perry. troll america. nah, i'd vote for baracka flocka flame.
North0House2 01.29.12	If around 6 billion people died at this very moment, the world would be far more manageable.
Emim 01.29.12	that would seriously hamper my online gaming
andcas 01.29.12	I think you should have to pass a test to have children. not really but some dumbass deadbeats make things worse by having a litter of losers.
jefflebowski 01.29.12	'baracka flocka flame' raised a laugh i'll admit
Vesper 01.29.12	Hey, if we elect Gingrich, he says (by the end of his SECOND term!) that we'll have an American base on the moon. We can send the extra people there.
Trebor17 01.29.12	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-hPNrKdZI Baracka Flocka Flame
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	im just waiting for the next plague with the extreme overuse of antibiotics a completely resistant epidemic isnt too far away
Vesper 01.29.12	"I think you should have to pass a test to have children. not really but some dumbass deadbeats make things worse by having a litter of losers." While the world could do with more discerning parents and sex education, this starts to tread too deep into the murky waters of eugenics.
Emim 01.29.12	"I think you should have to pass a test to have children. not really but some dumbass deadbeats make things worse by having a litter of losers." there have been worse ideas.
North0House2 01.29.12	Yeah, honestly, I think some plague that's gonna wipe half of the world at least isn't exactly off base, it could easily happen. We're all crammed in cities anyway, and travel is so international now it'd spread like wildfire.
Skrapyard 01.29.12	I think you should have to pass a test to have children. [2] Eugenics, please.
Vesper 01.29.12	Why all the wishful apocalyptic thinking, guys... you'll probably die too.
jefflebowski 01.29.12	'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ-hPNrKdZI' screw attack ads, obama should start releasing Gingrich diss tracks
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	"you'll probably die too." i can think of worse things happening
WeepingBanana 01.29.12	i disagree with a lot of what paul says but the fact that he's not a mass murderer like our past 5 presidents really helps his case
FromDaHood 01.29.12	Whoever challenges Obama really. If Donald Trump runs as an independent, it'll be him.
WeepingBanana 01.29.12	also lol people thinking that democrats are better than republicans seriously are you this naive?
jefflebowski 01.29.12	i hope that's a joke
EyeForAnEye 01.29.12	Clit Romney
andcas 01.29.12	ron wants to end the war on drugs and legalize them. there are benefits.
Trebor17 01.29.12	also lol people thinking that democrats are better than republicans seriously are you this naive? yeah cuz being homophobic and not believing in dinosaurs or women's rights or climate change is as bad as being a democrat
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	"also lol people thinking that democrats are better than republicans" they are both less than desirable but if you seriously think that at it's core republicanism isnt completely insane you are an idiot
Deviant. 01.29.12	Voting for Jom
WeepingBanana 01.29.12	"yeah cuz being homophobic and not believing in dinosaurs or women's rights or climate change is as bad as being a democrat" where the republicans specialize in that, the democrats specialize in being enormous corporate sell outs. they're all bad it's just that democrats are better at hiding it.
Trebor17 01.29.12	I would argue that republicans are bigger corporate sell outs
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	all of them are but republicans are just horrible people
EyeForAnEye 01.29.12	Democrats can be a stupid as Republicans and vice versa.
andcas 01.29.12	democrats chose the donkey because they're the biggest jackasses. republicans chose the elephant because they leave behind the biggest piles of shit.
jefflebowski 01.29.12	'the democrats specialize in being enormous corporate sell outs' OH THE IRONY IT BURNS
WeepingBanana 01.29.12	well seeing how most democrats want the more government involvement in the private sector then it would seem to me that they're more predisposed to being corporate sell outs
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	^^^ hahahaha dude do you even know what you just typed?
jefflebowski 01.29.12	clearly it's an elegant satire
WeepingBanana 01.29.12	right, it's probably just a coincidence that people who control policy (democrats and republicans) do exactly what corporations want while also receiving fuck tons of money at the hand of said corporations
jefflebowski 01.29.12	they key there is democrats AND republicans
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	that is literally the exact opposite of government involvement in the private sector
andcas 01.29.12	I'm pretty sure they both pick the presidents as well in the long run.
Trebor17 01.29.12	They are all bought out by the corporations anyway
Trebor17 01.29.12	Pizza is a vegetable is the indisputable proof of that
jefflebowski 01.29.12	and this is why all government officials should be forced to listen to fugazi whilst in office
WeepingBanana 01.29.12	i'd like to go back to the part where ron paul isn't a mass murderer like our past 5 presidents
Josh D. 01.29.12	Not voting because have you seen the candidates.
andcas 01.29.12	the reason why I like ron paul is he seems like a president that would use logic and reasoning over religion towards decisions that affect us all.
Trebor17 01.29.12	Obama doesn't use religion in his policies I think he's secretly an atheist or at least an agnostic
climactic 01.29.12	people bashing romney for being a mormon:: how would you feel if people didnt vote for a certain candidate because he was an atheist? and no, im not religious at all, or backing romney, but religion should have nothing to do with it. have some actual fucking reasons.
andcas 01.29.12	dude he believes in this shit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q6brMrFw0E
climactic 01.29.12	yea i know mormonism is fucking crazy. but if a candidate who you truly thought would be the best for the country had some weird religious views, would that stop you from voting for him? (not saying thats romney at all)
andcas 01.29.12	because he'd look to his wacky religion on how to run the country.
climactic 01.29.12	and is it really any more crazy than the stuff fundamentalists believe?
Trebor17 01.29.12	It's the same stuff the fundamentalists believe and it needs to not be in our politics
Maniac! 01.29.12	people bashing romney for being a mormon:: how would you feel if people didnt vote for a certain candidate because he was an atheist? and no, im not religious at all, or backing romney, but religion should have nothing to do with it. have some actual fucking reasons. [2] Obama doesn't use religion in his policies I think he's secretly an atheist or at least an agnostic [2]
jefflebowski 01.29.12	'people bashing romney for being a mormon:: how would you feel if people didnt vote for a certain candidate because he was an atheist?' bangs head against wall PLEASE don't make a shit comparison like this. Mormonism is a set of beliefs that the adherents of it subscribe to, and therefore it is logical to think that they might be swayed by these beliefs when making decisions. ATHEISM IS NOT A BELIEF SYSTEM, therefore an 'atheist' has no related beliefs that could influence his decision making. /rant
TMobotron 01.29.12	I don't have any problem with the religious views of the candidates, but I think a lot of repubs get their support for dated social policies from what their religion has told them.
Trebor17 01.29.12	fucking yeah
andcas 01.29.12	separation of church and state.
jefflebowski 01.29.12	in the constitution brah
Trebor17 01.29.12	Plus it's logical
andcas 01.29.12	I want a blind deaf racist crippled amish midget president who like seal.
climactic 01.29.12	@jeff you can replace "atheist" in that sentence with anything. i'm saying if you really think religion should be kept out of politics, then keep it out of your choices in elections
Leatherneck 01.29.12	do the right thing, vote for Cthulhu... why choose the lesser evil?
Vesper 01.29.12	"i'm saying if you really think religion should be kept out of politics, then keep it out of your choices in elections" But when the candidates insist on bringing their religion into it, then, yes, you do have to consider it in voting.
jefflebowski 01.29.12	'you really think religion should be kept out of politics, then keep it out of your choices in elections' it's a snappy way of putting it, but still wrong. The reason I consider religion in my choice of candidates is exactly because I think it should be kept out of politics - if i think that a candidate's religious views will seriously influence their legislative choices (ie. Rick Santorum) then i will not be predisposed to vote for them
jefflebowski 01.29.12	basically what vesper said, but in a more long-winded way
wacknizzle 01.29.12	fuck romney, santorum and just about every possible republican canidate their all using religon as a fucking ploy the pricks who think thinks being a christian means you shit sunshine like you picked the right religon. And there is a difference between religion and faith and they have no place in politics. Religion causes war. But we like that because war is big business.
Maniac! 01.29.12	I don't care if my politician is religious as long as he doesnt have a history of advocating incorporating his religious teachings with law.
andcas 01.29.12	anyone of faith will have it influence their choices. it does every gd day.
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	"how would you feel if people didnt vote for a certain candidate because he was an atheist?" why do you think an atheist doesnt have a chance of becoming president in the next 50 years? to be able to legitimately believe in mormonism (or any religion for that matter) is a weakness and allows for poor judgement on matters other than just religion and if you think that their religion wont govern how they run the country you are seriously seriously mistaken
Vesper 01.29.12	I respond to snappy statements with equally snappy statements. :]
andcas 01.29.12	"why do you think an atheist doesnt have a chance of becoming president in the next 50 years?" openly this would be impossible. look at society.
Maniac! 01.29.12	At the same time, I'd vote for a religious person over an atheist if I thought they'd be better suited for the job. Republican, Dem, or Independent.
Trebor17 01.29.12	There will be a lot more atheists in 50 years
Maniac! 01.29.12	Thinking about moving to Sweden
Auschwitz 01.29.12	anyone who votes for romney or gingrich is probably a moron.
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	i would have a hard time voting for someone who is openly religious because there is no way it wouldnt affect their decisions
wacknizzle 01.29.12	I don't think there are many enlightened sputniker's who are into politics. What i'm saying is alot of these guys are pushing their religious morals on values to get votes off people who think their religion is special and don't think for themselves.
andcas 01.29.12	"There will be a lot more atheists in 50 years" and probably no america.
climactic 01.29.12	"if i think that a candidate's religious views will seriously influence their legislative choices (ie. Rick Santorum) then i will not be predisposed to vote for them" this makes perfect sense. this is different. i think writing off a candidate soley for their religion is dumb though, as many people were doing with romney earlier in the thread +ron paul is the only GOP candidate who isn't using his religion to win votes, as far as i can tell.
Trebor17 01.29.12	Sweden is atheist as fuck and they have free health care and college and no military so jelly
andcas 01.29.12	I don't want someone who believes in a space god to control my safety.
Vesper 01.29.12	"i think writing off a candidate soley for their religion is dumb though, as many people were doing with romney earlier in the thread" We're not a political forum for a reason. But there are plenty of reasons why Romney is completely out of touch with most Americans. "Corporations are people, my friend." "I'm also unemployed."
wacknizzle 01.29.12	I just want to see the end of corruption within the government, go watch a documentary on topdocumentaryfilms.com there is a bunch of other mind blowing stuff on there too. About Nikola Tesla, theres alot of crazy shit about the pyramids, and conspiracy theory is sick just not the 911 bullshit.
Maniac! 01.29.12	"Sweden is atheist as fuck and they have free health care and college and no military so jelly" yep. go look at how hard it is to get citizenship and a job there as a foreigner. we'll never live there.
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	if they hold the capacity to believe in something as moronic as religion they hold the capacity to make other equally moronic decisions. you guys want to write off a persons religion as if its not an integral part of who they are
wacknizzle 01.29.12	the most important thing that people need to know right now is here. The Secret History of the Global Financial Collapse http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/meltdown/ ^This will blow your mind
UnnamedOcean 01.29.12	It won't matter who wins this election. It's all garbage in, garbage out. The country will suck just as much as it does now.
Trebor17 01.29.12	I know man, they have great immigration policies too I'm saying I'm jelly of people that are born there
Maniac! 01.29.12	I hear Iceland is nice
wacknizzle 01.29.12	and J.P Morgan is the devil, Nikola Tesla developed a tower that produced enough energy to power the entire world, free energy, Morgan made him tear it down because he partial financed it and his company wouldn't have been able to compete. Fuck i'm rambling but there is some cool shit that people shit know.
Maniac! 01.29.12	I'd like to hear solid evidence for that.
Trebor17 01.29.12	I don't think Tesla ever finished that thing He went crazy toward the end Edison was a cunt
Ire 01.29.12	voting republican because obama is a socialist nazi who wants to kill jobs NEWT 2012
wacknizzle 01.29.12	edison should have listened to Tesla, it sucks that we lost just about everything he invented well except for HAARP which we built to control weather, and create natural disasters by sending ions into the ground or air
Cells 01.29.12	Goddamn, thread was awesomely well informed
Trebor17 01.29.12	yeah, unlike most of america
Maniac! 01.29.12	lol
Relinquished 01.29.12	"voting republican because obama is a socialist nazi who wants to kill jobs NEWT 2012" lost the remaining respect I had of you
Hyperion1001 01.29.12	you had respect for ramy? why???
Maniac! 01.29.12	Because ramy is always serious
Trebor17 01.29.12	twas a joke duh
wabbit 01.29.12	to whoever mentioned Sweden (or any of the countries similar to it in europe): It's easy to maintain a fantastic country why you are incredibly racist.
BallsToTheWall 01.29.12	Vote for Dragonborn
Cells 01.29.12	Just finished The Companions main quests on to the dark brotherhood
BallsToTheWall 01.29.12	i'm stuck on them I don't want to kill the bride. My stormcloak quest is fucked since its in Markarth.
Cells 01.29.12	I haven't gotten that far yet but damn that is kinda fucked up. What ever im gonna shit rape Solitude anyways.
andcas 01.29.12	keep skyrim out of this lol
Trebor17 01.29.12	I felt bad about killing the bride The chef part is the best part of the game
BallsToTheWall 01.29.12	Anything you do in Markrarth is fucked. You cant bribe the guards ughhh.
BallsToTheWall 01.29.12	I was attempting to restore whiterun's tree but then I got ass raped by witches.
Cells 01.29.12	Like Tamriel, Skyrim colloquy knows no bounds.
fsupride 01.29.12	If voting did anything they'd make it illegal. I'd vote for Buddy Roemer, I don't agree with him on many things, but he's the guy who'd make me want to move to Canada the least.
eternium 01.29.12	lol this conversation got retarded while I was doing my essay.
andcas 01.29.12	fucking skyrim is taking over. it's like the new religion of sputnik lists.
Ire 01.29.12	"you had respect for ramy?" aw
FreePizzaDay 01.29.12	Not voting.
BallsToTheWall 01.29.12	Keep your back door unlocked.
OysterizerInsomniac 01.29.12	If there's any sort of chance that a republican will win then I'm voting for Obama, otherwise I'm voting for Rocky Anderson
Recspecs 01.29.12	Probably won't vote, but Newt Gingrich can fuck off with his 13 minute YouTube ads.
DarthMann 01.29.12	when i went to america i bought an obama badge
SowerKraut 01.29.12	"ron wants to end the war on drugs and legalize them. there are benefits." this
ChuckyTruant 01.31.12	and churches too, fuck churches being tax exempt ...really...
ChuckyTruant 01.31.12	lol skyrim and politics...great combination
bakkermaarten007 02.01.12	You people are all dumb, talking about politics based on how much money they'd take away from you or the religious preference of the candidate.... American politics are dumb anyways, campaigns are a joke, it's like they put up a show for children. Just wanted to point that out. No hard feelings.
andcas 02.01.12	haha you said hard - butthead
fish. 02.01.12	Honestly the american political system seems fucked from where I'm standing. It's fucked in most 'democratic' countries but it seems especially bad in the US
ChuckyTruant 02.01.12	Yeah I personally think the way elections are run are dumb and how stupidly long the damn campaigns are now. Plus I don't like the whole political parties idea. Its dumb IMO