BigHans
12.12.11 | This will end the argument for all time |
KILL
12.12.11 | just no sorry bro |
BigHans
12.12.11 | Dude my analysis is complete |
KILL
12.12.11 | how did metallica win riffs come on dave is the fucking riff master, and he wrote some of metallicas greatest riffs too |
Auschwitz
12.12.11 | cool list, but Megadeth all fuckin day. |
BigHans
12.12.11 | Dave is a riff master but I think Metallica has more great ones. |
dammets
12.12.11 | I think Metallica should have won lyrics |
BigHans
12.12.11 | I think Metallica should have won lyrics
^ They might have if Frantic had never happened. |
Cheesewireism
12.12.11 | MEGADETH!!!!!!!!!!!!! NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
Trebor.
12.12.11 | Metallica |
AliW1993
12.12.11 | I was going to say Magadeth should win riffs, but then I thought of Master Of Puppets
I prefer Mustain's vocals to Hetfield's, though. His voice wasn't bad in the 80's and it was great in the 90's but now it's just horrific. |
DominionMM1
12.12.11 | damn it hans, I was actually gonna do this list based on your maiden-priest scoring list. I had Megadeth taking it, though. |
BigHans
12.12.11 | sorry Dominion. Do another classic battle. Slayer vs Anthrax, for example |
DominionMM1
12.12.11 | I'd have given the live performance points to Megadeth. Their setlists have always been better. |
BigHans
12.12.11 | A Megadeth concert is like a gread playoff game, a Metallica concert is the Super Bowl |
Pharoh
12.12.11 | " I think Metallica should have won lyrics"
Yeah, who can argue with you with such memorable Metallica lines such as..
"My lifestyle determines my deathstyle!"
"I'm madly in anger with you" |
DominionMM1
12.12.11 | I'm just not a fan of Hetfield's vocals live. He applies his bob rock vocals to the fleming rasmussen songs. |
BigHans
12.12.11 | He applies his bob rock vocals to the fleming rasmussen songs.
^ Thats true. That started in the mid 90s. But dude, listen to Bing and Purge. m/ |
DominionMM1
12.12.11 | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Table&oldid=464914420
lol |
TheNotrap
12.12.11 | Metallica (classic era) is arguably better but Megadeth was always my fav speed metal band.
Following your rating system:
ICONIC SONGS
Metallica
ALBUM CONSISTENCY
Megadeth (Metallica's first albums were more consistent though)
LIVE PERFORMANCES
Metallica
INFLUENCE
Metallica
DRUMMING:
Megadeth
BASS
Metallica
GUITAR SOLOS
Megadeth
RIFFS
Megadeth
VOCALS
Metallica...
LYRICS
Tie
MASCOT
Not fair
Metallica wins but Megadeth still remains my fav speed act.
m/
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BigHans
12.12.11 | I think just cements what Ive always said. Megadeth are better musicians. Metallica are the better songwriters, thus they win because of influence, iconic songs, etc. |
TheNotrap
12.12.11 | Metallica was in the right place at the right time.
Just like Sabbath, Priest and Maiden. |
JamieTwort
12.12.11 | I agree on most of these except maybe riffs but I dunno they both have great riffs. |
Pharoh
12.12.11 | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Table&oldid=464914420
lolol |
AliW1993
12.12.11 | "Table or Tables may refer to:
Table (furniture)
Table (information)
Deliberative procedures:
Table (parliamentary), deferral or commencement of consideration
Table (verb), contrasting usages
Tables (board game), a class of board games
The Table, a volcanic tuya in British Columbia, Canada
A type of diamond cut
A tablet of early Roman law; see Twelve Tables
Table (database)
Calligra Tables, a spreadsheet application
James Hetfield, who claims himself to be "The Table"."
Brilliant.
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KILL
12.12.11 | funi |
BigHans
12.12.11 | thus why Megadeth wins lyrics |
Hordewolf
12.12.11 | Hell, I want to see this with some rock bands as Clutch and Down. |
Jethro42
12.12.11 | Can't vote once again :/ |
BigHans
12.12.11 | Jethro use this format for a classic Prog showdown |
BigHans
12.12.11 | like Genesis vs Rush or Yes or King Crimson or something. Replace Riffs with "overally random wankery" |
Jethro42
12.12.11 | Yeah I'm rightly on my way for it, Hans =]
P/ |
ARM7HEMASSES
12.12.11 | Lulu should not count since it is technically not a "Metallica" album. It is a collaboration. |
Jethro42
12.12.11 | ''overally random wankery''
hahaha well that is a prog option. not a necessity ya know=] |
ARM7HEMASSES
12.12.11 | I think "Musical Masturbation" would suffice better, haha. |
DoubtGin
12.12.11 | hmmm Hans
you are wrong twice in a row now.. |
Jethro42
12.12.11 | in his arrogant opinion
=] |
Jethro42
12.12.11 | ''Musical masturbation''
more like eargasmic music. |
Hordewolf
12.12.11 | Though the system is actually quite a good idea. |
BigHans
12.12.11 | Lulu should not count since it is technically not a "Metallica" album. It is a collaboration.
^ It doesnt matter, they put their name on one of the 5 worst albums in the history of music. |
ARM7HEMASSES
12.12.11 | "Eargasmic music"
Exactly what the musical masturbation leads up to. |
BigHans
12.12.11 | And Wolfhorde, I dont know who I would compare Clutch to. |
Jethro42
12.12.11 | have you even heard some Camel |
BigHans
12.12.11 | someone do A7X vs Atreyu |
Jethro42
12.12.11 | ''I dont know who I would compare Clutch to''
Down, maybe..? |
FrankRedHot
12.12.11 | "Dave is a riff master but I think Metallica has more great ones."
Sorry Hans, but that doesn't make sense. |
Hordewolf
12.12.11 | "And Wolfhorde, I dont know who I would compare Clutch to."
Just call me Wolf. I was thinking about Down but then I noticed they're not nearly as consistent as Clutch. |
MO
12.12.11 | Yea this one is pretty damn even to me. Unlike you Hans I don't have the emotional connection to the Black album so in my eyes only having 4 good albums (where alot of the better material on the first 2 was written by Mustaine) it's hard for Metallica to win. I'll agree Metallica is the bigger band in terms of bringing metal to the world. |
BigHans
12.12.11 | Sorry Hans, but that doesn't make sense.
^ Was saying Dave is a great riff writer but Metallica had more great riffs. |
AsoTamaki
12.12.11 | Yeah, Megadeth definitely wins guitar solos based on technical complexity, but that's it. Kirk's stuff always fits the songs perfectly and are generally far more memorable. |
Pentagon
12.12.11 | Megadeth. |
Acanthus
12.12.11 | FUN SUGGESTIONS FOR MORE
Amorphis vs Opeth
Tool vs Porcupine Tree
Korn vs Skrillex |
BigHans
12.12.11 | surpriesed there arent more butthurt Megadeth fanboys arguing vehemently in here. BTW where is Maniac? |
Hordewolf
12.12.11 | "Korn vs Skrillex"
let them fight over who invented dubstep. Can't really argue for any of those since I'm biased. Metallica was already background music when I was so young I didn't even care for music. |
Acanthus
12.12.11 | Nah was meaning since they collaborated, both were really popular with the first few albums, and both have hate/love in varying amounts. |
KjSwantko
12.12.11 | agree 100% with the assessment Hans, gj |
FrankRedHot
12.12.11 | "^ Was saying Dave is a great riff writer but Metallica had more great riffs."
You called Dave the riff master, yet you said Metallica has more great riffs. Again Hans, that doesn't make sense. |
BigHans
12.12.11 | said he was A riff master |
FrankRedHot
12.12.11 | DON'T YOU CORRECT ME! |
Trebor.
12.12.11 | There can only be one riff master |
KjSwantko
12.12.11 | Dave is a riff master, but behind vintage Hetfield. |
BigHans
12.12.11 | well if theres only one its neither Jaymz nor Dave |
FrankRedHot
12.12.11 | Dave is THE riff master. End of story.
And Hans, you shut your mouth when you're talking to me. |
DominionMM1
12.12.11 | someone do A7X vs Atreyu
-45 to -60 |
DeadBeat
12.12.11 | ICONIC SONGS
Megadeth (I don't care if Metallica appears more times on mtv)
ALBUM CONSISTENCY
Megadeth
LIVE PERFORMANCES
Metallica
INFLUENCE
Metallica
DRUMMING:
Megadeth
BASS
Metallica
GUITAR SOLOS
Megadeth
RIFFS
Megadeth
VOCALS
Metallica
LYRICS
Megadeth |
Jethro42
12.12.11 | ''shut your mouth when you're talking to me''
That's not nice. |
JamieTwort
12.12.11 | "well if theres only one its neither Jaymz nor Dave"
Tony Iommi! |
KjSwantko
12.12.11 | from an objective stand point it makes no sense to say Megadeth has more iconic songs. |
DominionMM1
12.12.11 | "Kirk's stuff always fits the songs perfectly and are generally far more memorable."
um no |
Gmork89
12.12.11 | I approve of this list, good job Hans. |
BigHans
12.12.11 | Megadeth songs I would say are "iconic"
In My Darkest Hour (maybe)
Hangar 18
Holy Wars
Peace Sells
Wake up Dead
Symphony of Destruction
Trust (maybe)
A tout Le Monde
Metallica's
Seek and Destroy
Whiplash
For Whom the Bell Tolls
Fade to Black
Creeping Death
Battery
Master of Puppets
Sanitarium
One
Blackened
Harvester of Sorrow
Enter Sandman
Unforgiven
Wherever I May Roam
Sad But True
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BigHans
12.12.11 | And that doesnt even mention the songs Metallica is famous for covering.
Die Die My Darling
So What
Am I Evil
Breadfan
etc. |
BigHans
12.12.11 | And Hans, you shut your mouth when you're talking to me.
^ EVERYTHING YOU SAY TO ME LEADS ME ONE STEP CLOSER TO THE EDGE AND IM ABOUT TO BREAK! |
BigHans
12.12.11 | m/ |
CakeWithCream
12.12.11 | Mustaine did write a lot of the riffs on Kill 'em All which is an influential record so you could say Mustaine had an influence over Metallica and Megadeth therefore Megadeth would have the greater influence and better riffs. Tornado of Souls > Any Metallica song.
Also every song on Rust In Peace is iconic.
Lyrics are not close in my opinion, Megadeth has better lyrics, and some are actually good while others are, well, laughable. While Metallica's are like GIMME FUE GIMME FAI GIMME DABAJABAZA
Your opinion is invalid Hans, Megadeth wins |
BigHans
12.12.11 | Tornado of Souls > Any Metallica song.
^ it has a great guitar solo but lol
Also every song on Rust In Peace is iconic.
^ Considering I wouldnt call 5 magics or Poision was the Cure or any song not named Hangar 18 or Holy Wars "iconic" on that album. "Iconinc" means its a well known classic in the metal community.
Youre right about the lyrics. |
TheNotrap
12.12.11 | In My Darkest Hour is probably Mustaine's best lyrical effort. |
BigHans
12.12.11 | its the best song on that album for sure. |
AsoTamaki
12.12.11 | Metallica songs with good lyrics:
The Four Horsemen
Ride the Lightning
Fade to Black
Creeping Death
Master of Puppets
Sanitarium
Disposable Heroes
Blackened
One
Dyers Eve
The Unforgiven
Wherever I May Roam
My Friend of Misery
Until It Sleeps
Hero of the Day
Bleeding Me
The Outlaw Torn
The Unforgiven II
Low Man's Lyric
Fixxxer
Sweet Amber
Purify
The Unforgiven III |
TheNotrap
12.12.11 | In my hour of need
Ha you're not there
And though I reached out for you
Wouldn't lend a hand
Through the darkest hour
Grace did not shine on me
It feels so cold, very cold
No one cares for me
Did you ever think I get lonely
Did you ever think that I needed love
Did you ever think to stop thinking
You're the only one that I'm thinking of
You'll never know how hard I tried
To find my space and satisfy you too
Things will be better when I'm dead and gone
Don't try to understand, knowing you I'm probably wrong
But oh how I lived my life for you
Still you'd turn away
Now as I die for you
My flesh still crawls as I breathe your name
All these years I thought I was wrong
Now I know it was you
Raise your head raise your face your eyes
Tell me who you think you are, who ?
I walk, I walk alone
Into the promised land
There's a better place for me
But it's far, far away
Everlasting life for me
In a perfect world
But I gotta die first
Please God send me on my way
Time has a way of taking time
Loneliness is not only felt by fools
Alone I call to ease the pain
Yearning to be held by you, alone, so alone, I'm lost
Consumed by the pain
The pain, the pain, the pain
Won't you hold me again
You just laughed, ha, ha, bitch
My whole life is work built on the past
But the time has come when all things shall pass
This good thing passed away
In my darkest hour |
Irving
12.12.11 | Love Hans, so so much. |
DominionMM1
12.12.11 | maybe I should do a Neurosis vs Isis list...wait...that one wouldn't even be close.
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CakeWithCream
12.13.11 | lol when i said every song on Rust in Peace is iconic i was actually kidding, i know they're not iconic, but goddamn i love that whole album.
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KILL
12.13.11 | rip is better than any metallica album yea agreed sweet |
Pharoh
12.13.11 | Mechanix > The Four Horseman |
KILL
12.13.11 | depends on my mood but yea usually mechanix |
CakeWithCream
12.13.11 | i don't like the Four Horsemen because of the bridge part before the solo, which is basically Sweet Home Alabama |
Ovrot
12.13.11 | metallica m/ |
Crysis
12.13.11 | these lists are m/ keep 'em coming |
Pharoh
12.13.11 | mechanix m/ |
CakeWithCream
12.13.11 | wu-tang vs public enemy next |
CakeWithCream
12.13.11 | unless you don't listen to them haha, then maybe something to do with death metal, Cannibal Corpse, Obituary, Deicide, Death |
CrackeTheSkull
12.13.11 | I would say do Death vs some other Death Metal band but that would just be lopsided.
Suffocation vs Immolation would be cool matchup. |
BigHans
12.13.11 | Im not qualified to do Death metal. KILL can do one. |
Nagrarok
12.13.11 | Better way for Metallica to restore their reputation would be re-releasing their first four with properly audible bass. I love it when you do these kind of lists Hans, keep them coming; Slayer vs. Anthrax would follow perfectly... |
BigHans
12.13.11 | I might do some non-metal ones Nag. Anyone feel free to do these type of lists with the format. Although this current format requires metal pretty much. |
Cipieron
12.13.11 | Dio vs. ...........someone
but obviously Dio would win |
JamieTwort
12.13.11 | I might do a classic rock one of these at some point. |
Jethro42
12.13.11 | I might do a hip hop one
=] |
TheNotrap
12.13.11 | Phil Collins vs Peter Gabriel... |
CrackeTheSkull
12.13.11 | The riff at the 1 Minute mark of Wake Up Dead might damn well be my all time favorite, but Metallica just flat out has a larger catalog of riffs that stood out to me. The scoreboard reads something like 20 to 12. |
Jethro42
12.13.11 | ''Phil Collins vs Peter Gabriel''
Please don't start a war. =P |
JamieTwort
12.13.11 | Hahaha |
Zorak
12.13.11 | hangar 18 solo(s) are fucking nuts. Deserved merits there. |
Cipieron
12.13.11 | gabriel > collins... no contest |
EyesWideShut
12.13.11 | Metallica. yea fuckin Blackened..
i think James would kick Dave's ass in a fight. dude seems like the pussy version of carrot top. |
Cipieron
12.13.11 | carrot top is ripped so obviously he'd win |
EyesWideShut
12.13.11 | thats why i said THE PUSSY VERSION! |
Cipieron
12.13.11 | well then |
Zorak
12.13.11 | yeah james could easily kick dave's ass. |
Maniac!
12.13.11 | list is wrong |
Gmork89
12.13.11 | Jamez would waste Dave. |
BigHans
12.13.11 | Dave actually decked Jaymz once, so I dont know. Dave has serious anger problems. |
AsoTamaki
12.13.11 | Dave's got multiple black belts. James doesn't even really have a tough guy reputation or anything. I'd have to go with Dave. |
DominionMM1
12.13.11 | wu-tang vs public enemy next
nwa vs. public enemy |
Auschwitz
12.13.11 | @cracketheskull that is a tasty riff for sure. |
BigHans
12.13.11 | if I do Hip Hop the first one will be Biggie vs Pac |
Maniac!
12.13.11 | "Dave's got multiple black belts."
that's cool and all, but that doesn't always mean anything |
Maniac!
12.13.11 | "Biggie vs Pac"
Biggie, no contest |
DominionMM1
12.13.11 | In Dave's book, he says james and him were talking shit to some guy for hitting a girl, and when the guy confronted them, james pussed out and ran off. |
jefflebowski
12.13.11 | Biggie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pac |
BigHans
12.13.11 | Biggie/Pac would be extremely close |
Auschwitz
12.13.11 | @dominion i wouldnt be surprised if that was fabricated. dave can be a little bitch about things. |
KILL
12.13.11 | dave would kick james's ass i mean who cares really but damn
dave already knocked his ass out when he kicked daves dog |
CakeWithCream
12.14.11 | he gets kicked out of Alcoholica for alcohol problems and then fucks Kirk's girlfriend for taking his job. |
LepreCon
12.14.11 | /m/ |
Curse.
12.17.11 | For people saying Megadeth should win because Dave wrote many early Metallica riffs, he was in Metallica at the time therefore it counts for Metalica you fucking morons |
Tyrael
12.17.11 | 'RIFFS (10 Points) Winner: Metallica'
Lol |
CakeWithCream
12.18.11 | curseworship is a dumbass |
Inveigh
12.22.11 | if you're gonne do Clutch it should vs Kyuss or something, maybe CoC
also awesome list, I agree with all of these. riffs is damn close though. Megadeth definitely has better riffs from like 1990 onward. |
KjSwantko
12.22.11 | Metallica riffs are better overall tho |
KILL
12.22.11 | fuck no |
Exodus287
12.22.11 | Great list but I reckon Megadeth are a superior band. Anthrax and Exodus are both better bands at thrash metal in my opinion. |
MetalMassacreAttack
12.27.11 | I do agree with curseworship's point, but even though Metallica are more influential, their astonishing inconsistency makes them inferior to Megadeth. Another great list, now please give us an Anthrax vs Slayer bout. |
CakeWithCream
12.27.11 | Slayer would probably destroy Anthrax in all of the categories except bass and guitar solos |
rockandmetaljunkie
12.27.11 | Cool list, i agree with the final result.
I still believe that AJFA is one of the most complex metal albums when it comes to lyrics. |
MetalMassacreAttack
12.29.11 | Cake, Anthrax's vocals are FAR better and, altough Dave Lombardo is a drum monster, Charlie Benante isn't that much behind. But okay, Slayer would probably win. |
BigHans
12.29.11 | Ive listened to alot of Anthrax and my fair share of Slayer but not enough Slayer to do that list. |
Megadeth
12.29.11 | yea slayer are better |
BigHans
12.29.11 | sup KILL |
CakeWithCream
12.29.11 | yeah forgot about the vocals haha, so maybe they wouldn't destroy but i think slayer would still be a clear winner |
BigHans
12.29.11 | no way Belladonna is better than Araya |
BigHans
12.29.11 | Slayer would win riffs and drumming probably for sure. |
DominionMM1
12.29.11 | ^iconic songs, too |
BigHans
12.29.11 | I dont know Dominion I think Anthrax's songs are more well known, thus more "iconic" in nature. |
DominionMM1
12.29.11 | disagree. I don't think Anthrax has any tracks that are as well known as angel of death, raining blood, or south of heaven. |
ncguitar
12.29.11 | "Korn vs Skrillex"
I lol'd |
BigHans
12.29.11 | Youre probably right Dominion |
Pharoh
12.30.11 | |
omnipanzer
03.12.13 | lol, forgot about this. |
mandan
01.10.14 | Mustaine's riffs are beast.
Dunno if anyone besides Hans could've done this list. |
mandan
02.02.14 | I agree with most of this, but the riffs are disputable. Probably a tie in that regard. Not too sure with regards to albums, since 'Deth has released some weak material (Thirteen and Super Collider both sucked hard). |
NordicMindset
02.02.14 | This was made before Super Collider.
So that means Metallica would have won that. |
mandan
02.02.14 | Yeah, Mustaine has pretty much become the laughingstock of the metal community. |
NordicMindset
02.02.14 | You know how you tell Megadeth is falling into obscurity? When they're the supporting act for Iron Maiden. |
mandan
02.02.14 | Lol. |
mandan
05.19.14 | Both bands have strong fanbases (with strong common threads), so it's not really like fans of each band antagonize each other so much.
Prob more people dislike 'Deth than 'Tallica tho. |