qwe3
12.04.11 | not v happy with this but
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Trebor17
12.04.11 | I remember you saying Ghost is your favorite
Glad to see Big Boi |
coneren
12.04.11 | hey qwe how are you |
captaincrunch11
12.04.11 | Yo ain't got no Yeezy nigga? |
Relinquished
12.04.11 | 3 blew my mind |
Ire
12.04.11 | 1 is def my fave
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iAmJosh
12.04.11 | you should check out Vinnie Paz |
qwe3
12.04.11 | was thinking of kanye because i really fuckign love him but rae edged him cuz pretty much hes a better rapper |
qwe3
12.04.11 | i like vinnie paz but not enough that hed make top 15 JMT ave never been a fav of mine |
Ire
12.04.11 | how could u put jay z and eminem and not have kanye |
FromDaHood
12.04.11 | I always thought Bun B was underrated, it's cool to see him on a Best Of list |
coneren
12.04.11 | fuck you then qwe goodbye faggot |
qwe3
12.04.11 | sup cone |
qwe3
12.04.11 | ur name backwards is awesome
nerenoc |
jayfatha
12.04.11 | Seems like Chuck D is never on these lists, good to see him here |
qwe3
12.04.11 | kinda shoulda made it like 25 or something |
MCGF
12.04.11 | this is a good list. I am down with all of them except 3. But I like 3. He is genius in his own way. |
AngelofDeath
12.04.11 | Like that Bun B is on here. Pretty good picks overall. |
andcas
12.04.11 | I thought lil wayne would be one on here. |
qwe3
12.04.11 | ghostface raps like a more consistent, talented nyc version of lil wayne |
WeepingBanana
12.04.11 | here comes the lil' wayne shit storm |
qwe3
12.04.11 | thanks bro i took heaps of time on it |
gotsthedewsdood
12.04.11 | the lil wayne shit storm will begin with me, i hate that fucking guy.
thank you, goodnight. |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | lil wayne is an absolute piece of shit as a human being and as a musician.
ghostface is a fucking awesome lyricist |
Hawks
12.04.11 | Do you know Lil Wayne personally Progmaster? |
Superbus
12.04.11 | there's two kinds of lil wayne haters:
those who are hatesr and those who haven't listened to Tha Carter I and II and his early mixtapes |
theacademy
12.04.11 | disagree with 2
10 is tarnished
rest is gold |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | lol give up |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5ckQUzugRY |
MO
12.04.11 | Nice ghostface is mine. My cat's name. |
qwe3
12.04.11 | lil wayne is an absolute piece of shit as a human being and as a musician.
ghostface is a fucking awesome lyricist "
if you think ghostface is an awesome lyricist there is literally no reason you shouldn't think lil wayne is a good rapper.
like actually no reason
but hey im pretty sure everyone knows your opinons are contrived and sorta boring so its really ok that you don't agree with me |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | stop getting worked up |
qwe3
12.04.11 | also as a human being im pretty sure hes pretty bau5 i mean he donated basketball courts to various schools/parks in new orleans after katrina not saying hes a saint but seriously dude you try way too hard |
qwe3
12.04.11 | if your definition of "getting worked up" is the systematic destruction of everything you say then ok but only cuz im merciful :D |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | im not trying hard lol |
qwe3
12.04.11 | bro chill |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | hes also, well from the songs ive heard an ATROCIOUS lyricist. many claim his old work has some great writing and I haven't heard much of that, but i can safely say most of his new music is worse than vomit |
reaganomics777
12.04.11 | no white people. youre definitely racist |
andcas
12.04.11 | lil wayne rhymes pussy with pussy with pussy neutral. clear lyrical genius. |
robertsona
12.04.11 | andcas shut the fuck up |
jayfatha
12.04.11 | "My cat's name"
Seriously? That's awesome |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | a is for ashley |
tkxxx7
12.04.11 | "many claim his old work has some great writing and I haven't heard much of that, but i can safely say most of his new music is worse than vomit"
that's about the only thing you can SAFELY say |
qwe3
12.04.11 | "no white people. youre definitely racist"
true that i forgot eminem came out
"lil wayne rhymes pussy with pussy with pussy neutral. clear lyrical genius."
uuuuuuuuudontknowanythingboutrap!!
"many claim his old work has some great writing and I haven't heard much of that"
because youre a moron who wants to hate lil wayne |
andcas
12.04.11 | isn't it past your bedtime rosa? |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | no. i just have no interest in pursuing his work at all. but what i said was the music from him that I've heard is beyond awful. He also has a terrible terrible terrible voice. putting him over a legend like gza is criminal |
andcas
12.04.11 | "uuuuuuuuudontknowanythingboutrap!!" learn to take a joke qwe. it's okay. |
YetAnotherBrick
12.04.11 | "uuuuuuuuudontknowanythingboutrap!!"
please explain how that's a valid responding argument |
auberginedreams
12.04.11 | i can't fucking stand lil' wayne. i won't deny that some of his old stuff may have been decent, but as
it stands today he pretty much makes generic radio pop-rap for 14 year old white girls to listen to at
high school dances imo. i think he purposely dumbed himself down tbh although it's not like i was ever
really a fan, i just didn't hate him before. |
qwe3
12.04.11 | wait, so in a list of my favourite rappers, me putting a rapper who i listen to and enjoy 2 spots ahead of a rapper who i also listen to and enjoy albeit a bit less is criminal?
do you read what you type or do you just find words and smoosh them together? lmao |
qwe3
12.04.11 | "please explain how that's a valid responding argument"
no
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reaganomics777
12.04.11 | you people wont convince anyone to dislike lil wayne. at this point people have already made up their
minds. just stop while youre ahead |
YetAnotherBrick
12.04.11 | "no"
fair enough |
wabbit
12.04.11 | great picks. Aesop Rock would be here and Eminem wouldn't and you have the majority of my list.
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andcas
12.04.11 | what eminem era qwe |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | ""uuuuuuuuudontknowanythingboutrap!!"
please explain how that's a valid responding argument"
he doesnt know how to respond when hes wrong
good point qwe a favorite is a favorite I understand you on that one but come on bro:
"Wellll the A is for Ashley
she always ask for me to take it out her pussy
put it right in her ass and the
B is for Brittany she bright in the class and
she be hatin on Ashley 'cause she tight in the ass"
i mean he's an absolute lyrical genius look at them rhymz
|
tkxxx7
12.04.11 | Who is 4? Never heard of him |
qwe3
12.04.11 | but aesop rock sucks : (
slim shady and marshall mathers and i'd prob say eminem show too just cuz that was my first em album |
andcas
12.04.11 | yeah, eminem show was the last good album. not sure what happened to him. |
auberginedreams
12.04.11 | "Wellll the A is for Ashley
she always ask for me to take it out her pussy
put it right in her ass and the
B is for Brittany she bright in the class and
she be hatin on Ashley 'cause she tight in the ass"
you can't even parody that shit. it's already a parody. i honestly don't see how anybody could defend this, but i'd like to see someone try. |
reaganomics777
12.04.11 | yea lets judge an artist off of 1 verse. I dont even like lil wayne and i know thats retarded |
gotsthedewsdood
12.04.11 | i've tried really hard, REALLY hard to get into lil wayne.
he just doesn't impress me. sometimes his lines are pretty funny and some are clever, but most of the time i hear garbage. sorry.
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qwe3
12.04.11 | "i mean he's an absolute lyrical genius look at them rhymz"
you realise cutpasting one bad verse does absolutely nothing for your argument right? js bro
"he doesnt know how to respond when hes wrong"
or its because explaining why what was clearly just me saying someone didnt know about rap was something it wasnt is fucking stupid?
tkxxx Nas is pretty underground. hes from nyc around 1994 so you know it was a pretty unremarkable setting but yeah i stumbled across this album of his called Unwellmatic and it was actually pretty solid then i heard he had beef with jay z and wow did that give him a lot more street cred (or "Scred" as i like to call it) in my book |
auberginedreams
12.04.11 | i like eminem a lot though so props on that. wasn't a huge fan of recovery, although i'm one of the few people here that enjoyed relapse. |
qwe3
12.04.11 | http://sputnikmusic.com/review/28342/Common-Universal-Mind-Control/
have you ever heard this album progmaster?
its actually one of the worst things youll ever hear
does it make common a terrible rapper? hell no |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | i can cut and paste 100 more bad verses because ive never heard even one song of his with decent lyrics |
tkxxx7
12.04.11 | @gotsthedewsdood listen to Drought 3
@qwe ah yeah i avoid underground rap, it usually sucks |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | ok qwe please share with me a lil wayne tune with decent lyrics id really like to see if it exists |
reaganomics777
12.04.11 | "i can cut and paste 100 more bad verses because ive never heard even one song of his with decent lyrics." For someone who listens to bands like Converge and BTBAM you have unusually high standards for lyrics. |
tkxxx7
12.04.11 | qwe went home
here's 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXjbXUvLyXA
here's 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49bhGgKdduk |
YetAnotherBrick
12.04.11 | this is a great list though, other than...you know |
YetAnotherBrick
12.04.11 | "yeah, eminem show was the last good album. not sure what happened to him."
come on, Recovery was great |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | @reaganomics
btbams lyrics are usally pretty stupid
converges lyrics are excellent |
reaganomics777
12.04.11 | The point is you can't fucking hear them. Converge's vocals are just pterodactyl screams and BTBAM has generic metalcore vocals. In both cases they're irrelevant. |
gotsthedewsdood
12.04.11 | they say this shit will catch up to you i keep tissue paper,
we eat each other whenever we're at the dinner table. |
qwe3
12.04.11 | "ok qwe please share with me a lil wayne tune with decent lyrics id really like to see if it exists"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UChf9jr-iUU
flow off the chaiiiiin |
YetAnotherBrick
12.04.11 | "BTBAM has generic metalcore vocals."
umm....no
"btbams lyrics are usally pretty stupid"
you've let me down, man..
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Yotimi
12.04.11 | hell yeah Monch |
qwe3
12.04.11 | dude youre never on anymore sup |
gotsthedewsdood
12.04.11 | i don't understand the random hating on btbam, they are pretty swellllllllll. |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | @Brick i love me some btbam but their lyrics are pretty bad most of the time. the musics fantastic though. btbam also doesnt have generic metalcore vocals at all so
qwe the lyrics in this are actually not offensive which is surprising but the song is still pretty bad |
reaganomics777
12.04.11 | "umm....no"
Oh man, I'm convinced now sorry I ever disagreed with you. |
Yotimi
12.04.11 | @qwe not much man, just busy i guess. a little late night Sputniking before the work week |
andcas
12.04.11 | lil wayne wishes he could play the guitar like between the buried and me. |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | yeah im going back to defeater i tried another song off Tha carter II and it sucks |
qwe3
12.04.11 | "qwe the lyrics in this are actually not offensive which is surprising but the song is still pretty bad "
lol they're just not if it was ghostface rapping the same thing you'd make a papier mache dick for it then give it head |
YetAnotherBrick
12.04.11 | "Oh man, I'm convinced now sorry I ever disagreed with you. "
I'm just saying, give me two modern metalcore vocalists that sound something remotely like Tommy
"i love me some btbam but their lyrics are pretty bad most of the time. "
well, i highly, but respectfully disagree.
A SPACEMAN. THAT'S WHAT THEY SAY I AM. |
qwe3
12.04.11 | "@qwe not much man, just busy i guess. a little late night Sputniking before the work week"
yeah i hear that, this december is gonna be chill for meh hopefully |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | @Andcas he tried member that one time his record company thought he would appeal to a wider audience by picking up a guitar but instead all he did was completely ruin the instrument entirely that was funny |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | well qwe if ghostface was rapping it it would prolly sound better because wayne's voice is hideous |
qwe3
12.04.11 | "Jewelry, usually I'm a hooligan for the money
Yeah I'm eatin' but I got a tapeworm in my tummy"
no one thinks up shit like that
people think of alternative words but instead of saying hes hungry as a ____ or whatever hes all I GOT A TAPEWORM |
andcas
12.04.11 | when lil wayne overdoses on syrup qwe will probably be on suicide watch. |
qwe3
12.04.11 | "well qwe if ghostface was rapping it it would prolly sound better because wayne's voice is hideous "
lmao im done dude i showed you a song and you just said 'oh well...thatsuckstoo' and quickly changed the subject to voices
its k bro its getting to the point where you dont even have to pretend to have a point anymore :) |
reaganomics777
12.04.11 | "I'm just saying, give me two modern metalcore vocalists that sound something remotely like Tommy"
Not to derail the thread or anything, but part of the problems with growls is that it's extremely hard to differentiate yourself from everyone else. Sure, they're different, but not by much when you consider what type of music they're playing. |
qwe3
12.04.11 | also btbam never had great lyrics but they aren't horrible
the lovely love from the love of my life line is the besttttt |
andcas
12.04.11 | "it's extremely hard to differentiate yourself from everyone else." dillinger. |
ExtremeSpeakers
12.04.11 | Good list |
gotsthedewsdood
12.04.11 | dr. carter is a tight song. |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | "when lil wayne overdoses on syrup qwe will probably be on suicide watch."
i chuckled
@Qwe i gave the song a chance and looked at the lyrics and overall I did not like the song. prolly the least hideous song I've heard from him, but still not great at all. he had a nice flow in it and some nice transitions but everything else including the beat pretty much sucked.
@Reagan that makes absolutely no sense |
qwe3
12.04.11 | "when lil wayne overdoses on syrup qwe will probably be on suicide watch."
andcas i know how to take a joke but you actually aren't funny. problem with jokes is that they have to be funny. i hope im not the one to break that news to you :( |
qwe3
12.04.11 | what do you mean by "transitions"? |
reaganomics777
12.04.11 | It makes absolutely perfect sense, but ok. |
andcas
12.04.11 | what makes you think I was joking that time. |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | @qwe maybe not the right term. I mean just his overall flow was pretty tight phrase to phrase but that doesnt make up for his horrendous voice, gay beat and shit like that |
YetAnotherBrick
12.04.11 | "Sure, they're different, but not by much when you consider what type of music they're playing. "
Um, what? Actually, they're more than a little bit different, which, coincidentally, is exactly why I felt the need to respond to your previous statement. |
qwe3
12.04.11 | then you're dumb? either way it's not a good result for you :( |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | im trying something off the da drought 3. so far, its horrendous. |
qwe3
12.04.11 | beats so good
also awesome lyics, phrasing and flow definitely make up for a voice lol |
qwe3
12.04.11 | its actually astounding that ive managed to become part of the one decent music review site in which most of the userbase doesn't think lil wayne is a good rapper |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | beat was gay as fuck
lyrics weren't awesome
phrasing and flow was actually not bad at all
horrible, horrible, pitiful voice
|
reaganomics777
12.04.11 | "Um, what? Actually, they're more than a little bit different"
You might just have a better ear for this than I do, I suppose. I've always found BTBAM's vocals to be the definition of average, but whatever.
"gay beat and shit like that"
Wow, is this supposed to be a serious criticism?
|
qwe3
12.04.11 | lol ok well this is getting nowhere |
qwe3
12.04.11 | "Wow, is this supposed to be a serious criticism?"
dude neutralthunder doesn't actually know much about rap, i thought that much was established |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | @reagan
okay let me rephrase
the beat was obnoxious and that type of beat has been 1000x and its not interesting in any way and does nothing for the music it's attempting to support
|
andcas
12.04.11 | "I've always found BTBAM's vocals to be the definition of average" tommy's singing and screaming is flawless live. I can
respect that because it's not easy. |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | no, i don't know much about rap at all. i enjoy some stuff, especially all the guys in the wu tang clan. I also really like Eminem's old stuff and a few other older guys. You don't need to know anything about rap to know that Lil Wayne's recent music is absolute garbage. |
Yotimi
12.04.11 | lil wayne's got plenty of great tracks man - Ride 4 My Niggas, Blooded, Dipset |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | @andcas
1
2
3
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qwe3
12.04.11 | oh btw heres another awesome C2 beat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLHEjqIsUMY
plus robin thicke asd;kbjsd;kv
"the beat was obnoxious and that type of beat has been 1000x and its not interesting in any way and does nothing for the music it's attempting to support"
dude beats are reused all the time have you ever listened to rap
also i actually dont even know what you mean by "that type of beat." do you mean one with piano? or one with drums? or horns?
|
YetAnotherBrick
12.04.11 | "You might just have a better ear for this than I do, I suppose. I've always found BTBAM's vocals to be the definition of average, but whatever."
They may be on an "average" enjoyment level for you personally, and that's fine. My point was just that they're not generic.
|
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | the whole feel of the beat. it felt cliche and offputting and did nothing for the rest of the music. it was just there. |
qwe3
12.04.11 | "i enjoy some stuff, especially all the guys in the wu tang clan."
lmao thats hilarious
"You don't need to know anything about rap to know that Lil Wayne's recent music is absolute garbage. "
oh ok then hey guys progmaster said you DIDNT need to know about rap so i guess im wrong! |
qwe3
12.04.11 | "the whole feel of the beat. it felt cliche and offputting and did nothing for the rest of the music. it was just there."
lol
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NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | @qwe this song shooter is actually sort of interesting. not bad. its sad that some of the cool stuff in this song is ruined by some of the badddd lines. but this is the first time ive actually sort of enjoyed something that he's done. its actually okay |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | qwe
you do not need to know anything about rap to know that most of lil wayne's recent stuff is fucking sewage |
qwe3
12.04.11 | his rapping on shooter is great but the beats way better |
qwe3
12.04.11 | "
you do not need to know anything about rap to know that most of lil wayne's recent stuff is fucking sewage "
woop he said it again! guess its EXTRA true then |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | yeah i agree with you qwe the beat in shooter is very cool, i like it. rest of the song was pretty meh though, especially the middle sounded like shit |
qwe3
12.04.11 | PRASTER OF MOG |
NeutralThunder12
12.04.11 | okay |
Recspecs
12.05.11 | I'm digging the list, no Death Grips. |
qwe3
12.05.11 | mmhm |
TheFonz123
12.05.11 | its soo cool to hate lil wayne and ponitificate over your musical knoledge becuase you openly dont like him, but the reality is, hes an amazing rapper (when he's rapping and not singing). Seriously he has major talent and improvisational skills and a good flow with charisma. pretty good list, although mine would include aesop rock, tyler, the creator, and kid cudi |
ThirtySixChambers
12.05.11 | sputnik rap list without deltron? sad |
TheFonz123
12.05.11 | deltron s/t is my third fav rap album but becuase they only made one, I tend to not include the rapper as on of my favorites |
ThirtySixChambers
12.05.11 | you can have favorite artists who only put out one album! he's putting out Deltron 2 eventually |
TheFonz123
12.05.11 | i see what you mean, its just when i think of my favorite artists i think of them over a span of a discography. Whether, that's a stupid or stilted way to look at it, which it probably is, its whatever. And word? I will go out of my way to get it if thats true |
ThirtySixChambers
12.05.11 | no word for a while, the dude is almost as slow as TOOL |
TheFonz123
12.05.11 | well, tool is like, awful so i hope they go somewhere far away where their music cant find me but seeing as he hasent released anything since 2000 yet hasnt gone on hiatus id have to agree with you |
The7thVermicide
12.05.11 | Very good list , lot of killer stuff right here ( with the exception of Lil Wayne) |
Tyrannic
12.05.11 | lil wayne's hit and miss, but can't deny 1 and 2. switch wayne with old em and you're golden. |
qwe3
12.05.11 | "sputnik rap list without deltron? sad"
hes just not that good a rapper bro |
Winsomniac
12.05.11 | SHAD |
qwe3
12.05.11 | lil wayne isnt really hit and miss
he was all hit from like 2003 onwards then after 2008 he was all miss with a small amount of exceptions
so its just the usual rapper sucking after awhile thing |
Hep Kat
12.05.11 | i like the inclusion of gift of gab |
TomArnoldsArmpit
12.05.11 | sheesh |
qwe3
12.06.11 | sup kat
ya gab is so well rounded |
Tyrannic
12.06.11 | i never figured out the whole mixtape scene until a few weeks ago. i never even heard when they dropped. looking them over on here i see there are a few good ones. maybe he's better suited to mixtapes? |
Gilgamahesh
12.06.11 | Listened to Tha Carter II and IV, and they did jack shit for me. The mix tapes aren't too bad, but I wouldn't put him in my top 10, and
mainly because of that terrible voice of his. I wouldn't say that beats make a rapper, as a producer myself that just sounds stupid.
But it's qwe's list, even says so in the title. So I'm not gonna be a Lil' Bitch about it. His criteria is his criteria. That said, there are
some great rappers on here. |
qwe3
12.06.11 | well yeah CII is great but IV is pretty average.
his mixtapes are fucking immense. it's just hours of pure non sequitors wordplay and flow its an incredible listen |
NeutralThunder12
12.06.11 | pure non sequitors wordplay |
qwe3
12.06.11 | pure non sequitors wordplay! |
Gilgamahesh
12.06.11 | I'll listen again when I have time man. I'm seriously lacking in hip hop when I consider how much other stuff I have. I must find a balance. |
The7thVermicide
12.06.11 | You should replace lil wayne for mos def or lupe fiasco |
gosk8n
12.06.11 | Very interesting taste in rap qwe especially 1,4,5,7,10,13,15 which probably would be on my top list but the rest of these guys kinda end up in the "meh" zone for me lol
|
qwe3
12.07.11 | chuck d ends up in the "meh" zone? |
gosk8n
12.07.11 | well really thinking about it he doesnt but neither on my top 15 i admire the guy because hes a great figure in hip hop. and thats all |
qwe3
12.08.11 | fairenoughbro |
jefflebowski
12.08.11 | um, no rakim? |
Hocmat
12.08.11 | Nice list, qwe lists usually are. 2,4, and 5 are in my top 5 |
qwe3
12.08.11 | if you read the list you'll be able to see whether or not rakim's on it. its just up there ^ |
jefflebowski
12.08.11 | thinking outside the box, I like it |
Inveigh
12.23.11 | "i mean he's an absolute lyrical genius look at them rhymz"
yea because lyrics have to be serious to be good
anyways there was a good 3-4 years where Lil Wayne was the best mainstream rapper in the world and it wasn't really close |
qwe3
12.23.11 | dude its progmaster |
Inveigh
12.23.11 | well that's a valid point |
