dansxdead
07.16.11 | I missed you so much |
kris.
07.16.11 | hmm i vaguely remember your name |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | I was trolled beyond oblivion on this site before I left, figured I'd give it a go again. |
dixoncocks
07.16.11 | well since your pretty much asking to be trolled... |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | I mean, knock yourself out. |
kris.
07.16.11 | so you left cuz you were getting trolled
pussy |
Willie
07.16.11 | Sputnik users smell weakness and failure from a mile away, so what did you do to attract the attention? If it was anything like posting a I'm Back list that starts out by complaining about being trolled and letting the users know that's why you left, well then... you're right back on the wrong track. |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | I left because I was getting sick of the trolling and all of the hipsters on this site. |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | Like I said, it was a mix of trolling and pretentious hipster fags. I'm getting my ratings cleared asap since these are outdated as fuck and make me look like a scenefag. No wonder I was trolled, THANK YOU SPUTNIK. |
Willie
07.16.11 | Ratings bye bye. |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | Thank you! |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | Not really, it just bothered me because I couldn't get constructive criticism on my reviews which was absolutely ridiculous. |
InFiction
07.16.11 | Bro, I remember you. You're rad. Welcome back dude. |
pizzamachine
07.16.11 | I REMEMBER THAT PROFILE PICTURE :O |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | Yeah well, I was just sick of it and I guess it was just time to come back.
Dude, I've talked to you a few times in the past. How've you been man? Did you ever talk to ThePalestMexican? I'm gonna see if he'll come back. |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | @pizzamachine :O |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | Whatever happened to Rasputin/Dryden? Any idea? |
pizzamachine
07.16.11 | He's around, just not very often. |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | I wanna say hello to that jabroni just one more time lolol |
whywontyoudie
07.16.11 | rasputin pokes his head out occasionally. |
pizzamachine
07.16.11 | Unfortunately, one does not simply enter the Dryden. |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | Haha, I miss this community man! Fuck. |
Obfuscation24
07.16.11 | I remember you Carnifex we used to chat about Here Comes The Kraken |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | So how about that new HCTK huh? lololol
Also, as much as I hated it, it made me laugh too. |
ZilbelPing
07.16.11 | I think I saw you once or twice during the winter when I was still very new on Sputnik. I didn't talk to you, just saw your name around. |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | I really wanna see Dryden's facebook, or just a picture of Dryden.
I was on and off later on, really. Kinda wish I stayed, my reviews are mediocre but I thought I was a decent user. |
jayfatha
07.16.11 | Oh yea you used to be my neighbor |
ZilbelPing
07.16.11 | At least you have reviews. I'm still trying to figure out which album will be my first. Meh |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | Write a positive review that you can pull some downsides from, don't jizz over the album but don't bash it until oblivion you know what I mean? |
Hawks
07.16.11 | Well you're kinda redeeming yourself by having 3, 6, and 7 here, but that user name needs to go. |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | I'm not huge on the band as I used to be when I first changed it to that, but I just like the name regardless. Know what I mean? |
ZilbelPing
07.16.11 | Yeah I get ya. I'll probably end up picking an album I enjoy but don't absolutely love. Like a 3.5 or a 4. Something like that. |
Hawks
07.16.11 | Yeah, but most people will fuck with you just because of the name. Your best bet would be to just create a whole new account and start over with your ratings. |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | Yeah my first review was 3.5 |
Uranium
07.16.11 | carnifex. ay bra, that like a band or something |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | Eh, I'm okay with just explaining myself to people Hawks. It's cool. I like the name and I've had the account for what feels like forever. |
ZilbelPing
07.16.11 | It's not like he's the first to have a name most peope make fun of.
Look at ButcheredChildren. I think MetallicOpeth said something about him not liking his name either. |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | lolwut I've seen some bad usernames here. There was one guy named like metallicafan89 |
ZilbelPing
07.16.11 | hahaha that's horrible.
I took massive shit here when I first joined cause I took everything too seriously and listened to lots of shit music.
So if I can take it, you can too |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | Yeah, I stopped listening to 80% of the shitty deathcore I liked when I was active here, so I doubt much will happen now haha. |
Waior
07.16.11 | I remember your name but you had an old username that I would remember more. What was it?
Also, who is Phaze? |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | My old username had to be XNoMercyX, NoMooreMercy or something along those lines. Also I have no idea lol. |
pizzamachine
07.16.11 | haha I was wondering why Phaze didn't ring any bells |
WeepingBanana
07.16.11 | i don't think anyone that has ever entered sputnik was trolled and hated as much as i was when i first started out
sonic might remember |
qwe3
07.16.11 | rlly |
WeepingBanana
07.16.11 | yeah it was under a different account though
you've probably heard of zepdude |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | qwe3?! I remember you, you were dick!
Also I have heard of zepdude. |
WeepingBanana
07.16.11 | one way to get qwe's good side is by telling him lil wayne sucks |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | lil wayne is derp-tier |
qwe3
07.16.11 | really?
you're gonna talk about "tiers"?
that's depressing dude. plus lil wayne rules so its obv you havent listened to him
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Waior
07.16.11 | well.. |
Maniac!
07.16.11 | no, lil wayne isn't that good. |
KILL
07.16.11 | yo |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "that's depressing dude. plus lil wayne rules so its obv you havent listened to him"
How can someone who acts so elitist actually think Lil Wayne is any good? |
dixoncocks
07.16.11 | haha lil wayne certainly does not "rule" |
BloodSweatandBeers
07.16.11 | hahahaha oh man here we go |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "How can someone who acts so elitist actually think Lil Wayne is any good?"
you can't deny talent and the guy has it in droves.
"haha lil wayne certainly does not "rule""
you think P.O.S. made a classic album and youre laughing at MY taste in rap?
"no, lil wayne isn't that good"
he definitely most certainly is. i mean he's easily a more skilled lyricist than q tip dude |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "you can't deny talent and the guy has it in droves."
The guy has it in droves? I guess you just choose to ignore the fact that he says the exact same thing in every song. "Life is a bitch," "Fuck life." It's the same shit over and over again. You also forget that he stole Drake's flow(which isn't all that good to begin with) and changed his whole style when he saw what was popular. The dude has made some decent songs, but overall he's made a lot of really, really shitty filler. |
Maniac!
07.16.11 | "you think P.O.S. made a classic album and youre laughing at MY taste in rap?"
P.O.S. is indefinitely better than lil wayne lol.
"The dude has made some decent songs, but overall he's made a lot of really, really shitty filler."
This |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "I guess you just choose to ignore the fact that he says the exact same thing in every song. "Life is a bitch," "Fuck life.""
it's really easy to ignore facts that aren't true, unsurprisingly. but thanks for proving my whole "lil wayne haters havent listened to lil wayne" theory. youre not the only one dont worry :)
"you also forget that he stole Drake's flow"
lol you can't steal someones flow dude hahahaha
"The dude has made some decent songs, but overall he's made a lot of really, really shitty filler."
yes he has made lots of shit music. i mean, no other rapper has done that, right?
hmm oh wait i can think of a few: gza, raekwon, common, nas, eminem, 2pac, AZ, canibus, jay-z
i'll stop but you get the idea (in case you don't the idea is your logic is terrible) |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "P.O.S. is indefinitely better than lil wayne lol."
so hes better than lil wayne for an unspecified period of time, got it.
but lol he really isn't. lyrically he's nothing special like at all its just his subject matter that makes it seem that way. his real strength is his delivery. his flow is fucking phenomenal. |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "it's really easy to ignore facts that aren't true, unsurprisingly. but thanks for proving my whole "lil wayne haters havent listened to lil wayne" theory. youre not the only one dont worry :)"
Ummmm... except I'm right? Just a few examples: 6 Foot 7 Foot, Right Above It(Oooooo, so clever! He said "Life is a beach!"), Bill Gates, We Don't, No Love, Break Up...... just a few examples.
"lol you can't steal someones flow dude hahahaha"
Ummmm, yeah, you can. Examples:
Before Drake's signing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CmZQk3O-4M
After Drake's signing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHZtMNbrmWE
Significant difference. Plus, Drake really stole Big Sean's flow, but that's moot.
"yes he has made lots of shit music. i mean, no other rapper has done that, right?"
And that's why I don't listen to "no other rapper."
By the way, GZA, except for his first solo album, hasn't made a bad album yet.
Nas has made a few bad albums, but he didn't continue along that path.
2Pac didn't make one bad album while he was still alive.
And I love how you attack everyone's logic when yours is about as empty as your head. |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | Phaze, shut up |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | Phaze, shut up |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "Ummmm... except I'm right? Just a few examples: 6 Foot 7 Foot, Right Above It(Oooooo, so clever! He said "Life is a beach!"), Bill Gates, We Don't, No Love, Break Up...... just a few examples."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh wow. keep on proving my point. so you can name singles in which he is less than stellar. grats.
now listen to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9h3RlIA4G4&feature=related
can you SERIOUSLY say he can't rap? like even if it's not your style or whatever can you actually DENY that he has talent.
"2Pac didn't make one bad album while he was still alive."
most of his albums are a bit above average to mediocre to bad
"Ummmm, yeah, you can."
dude you showed me two youtube videos. i can show you videos and waynes flow is completely different from one to the next. rappers don't steal each other's flow because that's retarded. if you're actually suggesting that, then every NYC rapper to release an album in the 90s sucks dick and stole Rakim's flow.
"And I love how you attack everyone's logic when yours is about as empty as your head."
hahahahahahahahahahaha i love how you made a logical fallacy in the same sentence you dissed my logic |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | Phaze, shut up[3] |
FatChickIrl
07.16.11 | But seriously. Trolling is just a common thing on sputnik. Everybody's a dick because they haven't gotten laid, feel like taking their anger out on the internet, or just want attention.[123] |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "dude you showed me two youtube videos. i can show you videos and waynes flow is completely different from one to the next. rappers don't steal each other's flow because that's retarded. if you're actually suggesting that, then every NYC rapper to release an album in the 90s sucks dick and stole Rakim's flow. "
Yes, rappers can steal someone's flow. Are you this fucking stupid qwe, or are you just ignorant? I'm hoping that your fanboyish attitude is shielding you from the truth, because if you think Lil Wayne doesn't sound like Drake when he raps now, you're just flat out retarded.
"most of his albums are a bit above average to mediocre to bad"
Why do you strike me as the same idiot who tells me that "old school rap sucks because it's old?"
"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh wow. keep on proving my point. so you can name singles in which he is less than stellar. grats."
Ummm, I've never heard Bill Gates, We Don't, or Break Up on the radio nor on MTV. Please, qwe, just quit while your only this far behind. |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "I'm going to make an assumption that you have the brain cells of a mentally out of it pit bull and chihuahua mix, so I'll try it again.
Reeeeeeeeeeelaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaax."
Phaze, shut up[4] |
FatChickIrl
07.16.11 | "dude lil wayne should change his retard ass name to lil fag and wear rainbow grills on his ugly ass teeth he should be raped and beaten i get sick of lil 13 yr olds like qweer3 goin around thinkin lil fag is big and tough even though his dick is dumb as shit"
lolcakes |
MO
07.16.11 | "Everybody's a dick because they haven't gotten laid"
Basically, guess that's why I don't start shit here. |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "Yes, rappers can steal someone's flow. Are you this fucking stupid qwe, or are you just ignorant?"
keep it up dude, you ALMOST have a point. oh wait. no you don't! dude. you can't. steal. someone's. flow. rappers influence each other all the time that's how it progressed. but. it. is. not. stealing. ok? got it? nice. hey guys Kool Moe Dee was the first rapper to rap in a non-battle way EVERY RAPPER EVER STOLE FROM HIM. lol you dont even know who kool moe dee is why do i even
"Why do you strike me as the same idiot who tells me that "old school rap sucks because it's old?"
do I? that's unfortunate! probably your problem, not mine tho :)
"Ummm, I've never heard Bill Gates, We Don't, or Break Up on the radio nor on MTV. Please, qwe, just quit while your only this far behind."
fair enough break up and we dont arent but ive heard bill gates on the radio! i don't really see how naming a bunch of bad songs by an artist proves they talk about the same thing over and over again. probably because it doesn't.
i mean think about it
Phone Home - he raps about being like ET and space
Georgia Bush - bush diss track in response to lacklustre katrina aid
Shooter - attack on those who hate on southern rap for the sake of hating on southern rap
tie my hands - new orleans tribute song
a milli - one of the best freestyles written in the 2000-2010 period
dr. carter - whole songs a metaphor for his impact on hip hop expressed through medical imagery
i could name so many more but he really has the most massive catalogue
buncha love songs, buncha freestyles, buncha random free-association and yes, some bullshit. a lot of bullshit. but when you write literally more music than 2pac ever did, and you do it in like 2-3 years i think that's expected. |
KILL
07.16.11 | lol |
FatChickIrl
07.16.11 | attack of the qwerasouras rex |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "I remember a user saying that they wanted to see an argument between qwe and pit. Seems that wish was granted."
dude it's not even a contest though ask for your money back. |
FatChickIrl
07.16.11 | ima millionaire young money millionaire tougher then nigerian hair |
qwe3
07.16.11 | MY CRITERIA COMPARED TO YOUR CAREER JUST ISNT FAIR |
FatChickIrl
07.16.11 | ima venereal disease LIKE A MENSTRUAL I BLEED |
BloodSweatandBeers
07.16.11 | "I remember a user saying that they wanted to see an argument between qwe and pit. Seems that wish was granted."
LOL yea that was me, and it's pretty awesome so far, the beauty is theyre the two users ive never seen back down...at all, and both are pretty knowledgable about shit, so the outcome will be great
"dude it's not even a contest though ask for your money back."
i dunno, its pretty even so far |
qwe3
07.16.11 | no it's not. you're not reading properly |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "Phone Home - he raps about being like ET and space"
And? Lol
"Georgia Bush - bush diss track in response to lacklustre katrina aid"
I have more respect for Kanye on this.
"Shooter - attack on those who hate on southern rap for the sake of hating on southern rap"
Who in the fuck hates southern rap? UGK, Goodie Mob, T.I..... please give me an example
"tie my hands - new orleans tribute song"
Yeah, no one's ever done a tribute song to their own city.
"a milli - one of the best freestyles written in the 2000-2010 period"
I've heard several that are better, but I'd have to browse through my music collection to name them and I unfortunately don't have the ability to do that at the moment.
"dr. carter - whole songs a metaphor for his impact on hip hop expressed through medical imagery"
One artist: Dr. Octagon |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "I have more respect for Kanye on this."
really? because youre probably the only one. kanye's reaction to bush's response was juvenile and retarded
"Who in the fuck hates southern rap? UGK, Goodie Mob, T.I..... please give me an example"
why? that's totally irrelevant. i'm arguing the fact that there is diversity in his subject matter, which clearly there is. is that disproved by the fact that you have a limited knowledge of radio station politics?
"
Yeah, no one's ever done a tribute song to their own city."
again, this doesn't matter. it is to show that he has diversity in his music. ok so thats twice youve missed the same point in one post. also, "tribute song" is a badly worded description. think of it like a memorial, a mourning.
"I've heard several that are better, but I'd have to browse through my music collection to name them and I unfortunately don't have the ability to do that at the moment."
csb
"One artist: Dr. Octagon"
uh...what? yes. there is an artist who raps under the alias Dr. Octagon. there's also Dr. Dre. oh shit that must mean lil wayne's totally unoriginal!
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qwe3
07.16.11 | "And? Lol"
didnt see that. so thats actually 3 times you missed the point, not 2. coolsies! |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "really? because youre probably the only one. kanye's reaction to bush's response was juvenile and retarded"
Good to know you still can't sense sarcasm after all these years.
"why? that's totally irrelevant. i'm arguing the fact that there is diversity in his subject matter, which clearly there is. is that disproved by the fact that you have a limited knowledge of radio station politics?"
I wasn't debating "diversity in his subject matter." I was debating that he bases all of his songs off of a few simplistic cliches.
"uh...what? yes. there is an artist who raps under the alias Dr. Octagon. there's also Dr. Dre. oh shit that must mean lil wayne's totally unoriginal!"
Nothing to do with what I was saying, but good try nonetheless
"csb"
Yeah, being in a hospital with the only computer access being to my laptop is worthy of a tired internet meme.
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anarchistfish
07.16.11 | I read this list title as 'Help, I'm Black'
:| |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "didnt see that. so thats actually 3 times you missed the point, not 2. coolsies!"
I didn't miss your point at all. You're trying to prove to me that he's as diverse and original as any other rapper, yet he still sounds oddly like Drake and his punchlines are tired and overused. Congrats! We're on the same page. |
Maniac!
07.16.11 | Lol. This thread amuses me |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "Good to know you still can't sense sarcasm after all these years."
either you suck at sarcasm or youve just now realised how stupid what you said was and are trying to cover it up
"I wasn't debating "diversity in his subject matter." I was debating that he bases all of his songs off of a few simplistic cliches."
like demanding retribution for a government not doing its duty? like a whole song as a metaphor? please dude, i've already shown you you're wrong by actually giving examples i don't know what more you can do unless you want to be really liberal about how you use the word cliche
"Nothing to do with what I was saying, but good try nonetheless"
alright, what were you trying to say then? because it seems to me that you just said Dr. Octagon. the only similarity between Dr Carter and Dr Octagon is that they have Dr. in them and are related to the medical profession however tenuously. explain to me what should have instantly clicked upon reading the name Dr. Octagon
"Yeah, being in a hospital with the only computer access being to my laptop is worthy of a tired internet meme."
pretty much
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Carnifex
07.16.11 | Lol wow, I check back into this list and a whole fight has broken out. I missed this place |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "I didn't miss your point at all. You're trying to prove to me that he's as diverse and original as any other rapper, yet he still sounds oddly like Drake and his punchlines are tired and overused. "
no dude you definitely missed my point otherwise you would have understood my point
he probably sounds like drake because theyre good friends, collaborators and labelmates but yknow what? i still don't see it. six foot seven foot was pure weezy, as is everything on his newest mixtape.
also can you please define what "original" is in the context of hip hop |
qwe3
07.16.11 | yeah this is getting boring now though like he doesnt actually understand what i'm saying he's just randomly bringing up things like Dr Octagon in the hopes that it'll be relevant. |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "either you suck at sarcasm or youve just now realised how stupid what you said was and are trying to cover it up"
Or you could have just missed the sarcasm.
"like demanding retribution for a government not doing its duty? like a whole song as a metaphor? please dude, i've already shown you you're wrong by actually giving examples i don't know what more you can do unless you want to be really liberal about how you use the word cliche"
You haven't given any examples to prove your point either except name a bunch of songs. A whole song as a metaphor? Jeez, I don't think I've ever heard anyone do that before(sarcasm).
"alright, what were you trying to say then? because it seems to me that you just said Dr. Octagon. the only similarity between Dr Carter and Dr Octagon is that they have Dr. in them and are related to the medical profession however tenuously. explain to me what should have instantly clicked upon reading the name Dr. Octagon"
I was just trying to say that others have used the medical imagery in their music. I don't get how you missed that. I thought the usage of the Dr. Octago aka Kool Keith example would've been enough for you, but I can see you're as dense as pound cake. |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "no dude you definitely missed my point otherwise you would have understood my point"
No, I think I got your point. My statement pretty much should've cleared that up.
"he probably sounds like drake because theyre good friends, collaborators and labelmates but yknow what? i still don't see it. six foot seven foot was pure weezy, as is everything on his newest mixtape."
He probably sounds like Drake because he knows what's popular now and he wants to remain in the mainstream. What a concept! BTW, Corey Gunz killed Weezy on 6 Foot 7 Foot
"also can you please define what "original" is in the context of hip hop"
Any song that doesn't continually use "Life is a bitch."
Or maybe some Raekwon, Nas, Cannibal Ox, Celph, Atmosphere, Flying Lotus... |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "Or you could have just missed the sarcasm."
lol but you weren't being sarcastic dude, it's PRETTY obvious. i know youre going to keep going with it but man youre not the most subtle writer ever. the word choice, the tone and the context of the sentence was so not lent to sarcasm like at all. but its alright i believe you!
"You haven't given any examples to prove your point either except name a bunch of songs."
yeah, the songs are the examples. sorry, should have explained that.
"A whole song as a metaphor? Jeez, I don't think I've ever heard anyone do that before(sarcasm)"
lol dude are you serious? hahahha by that logic Mobb Deep, Nas, most wu-tang mcs, jeru tha damaja, big etc should not impress you because their flow was based pretty much ENTIRELY around that of rakim's and they all wrote 90s hardcore street rap. i dont even
lol
"I was just trying to say that others have used the medical imagery in their music."
no shit. doesn't matter. if you become THIS pedantic about subject matter i.e. something HAVING medical imagery in it then NOTHING is original. you're just trying to change the parameters of "original" to suit your argument, but its making you look so fucking dumb dude.
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Ire
07.16.11 | i remember you had really bad taste
you have really bad taste |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "lol but you weren't being sarcastic dude, it's PRETTY obvious. i know youre going to keep going with it but man youre not the most subtle writer ever. the word choice, the tone and the context of the sentence was so not lent to sarcasm like at all. but its alright i believe you!"
No matter what your argument says, qwe, I'm not going to tell you I wasn't being sarcastic when I was. God, you're so stubborn!
"yeah, the songs are the examples. sorry, should have explained that."
So were mine. See how we play this game?!?!
"lol dude are you serious? hahahha by that logic Mobb Deep, Nas, most wu-tang mcs, jeru tha damaja, big etc should not impress you because their flow was based pretty much ENTIRELY around that of rakim's and they all wrote 90s hardcore street rap. i dont even"
Ummm, what does their flow, in this matter, have to do with a whole song being a metaphor? Running out of arguments?
"no shit. doesn't matter. if you become THIS pedantic about subject matter i.e. something HAVING medical imagery in it then NOTHING is original. you're just trying to change the parameters of "original" to suit your argument, but its making you look so fucking dumb dude."
Are you calling me pedantic when you're doing the same thing? Lol how hypocritcal.
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anarchistfish
07.16.11 | guys get a room |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | I would, but his room's probably covered in LIl Wayne posters and I will have none of that! |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "No, I think I got your point. My statement pretty much should've cleared that up."
interesting that you only actually acknowledged it after i'd explained it to you exasperatedly. cool!
"He probably sounds like Drake because he knows what's popular now and he wants to remain in the mainstream. What a concept! BTW, Corey Gunz killed Weezy on 6 Foot 7 Foot"
hmm a pop musician wanting to stay a pop musician. interesting! a novel concept.
i dunno dude dont you think i MIGHT have considered that already? it just doesn't work with waynes persona at all. he wanted to try rock for the hell of it. it wasn't to make money. he put out literally over a thousand songs for FREE. the dude just likes rapping. it's actually all he does.
"Any song that doesn't continually use "Life is a bitch."
what about the song "Life's A Bitch" by nas? it's funny because the sentence after you talk about lifes a bitch being unoriginal you mention nas being original. hmmmmmm
but seriously that definition blows hahahahahahaha its like a 5 yr old kid thought of it
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Carnifex
07.16.11 | @Ire: I've stopped listening to most of the deathcore I used to and listen to more old school dm now. |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "hmm a pop musician wanting to stay a pop musician. interesting! a novel concept.
i dunno dude dont you think i MIGHT have considered that already? it just doesn't work with waynes persona at all. he wanted to try rock for the hell of it. it wasn't to make money. he put out literally over a thousand songs for FREE. the dude just likes rapping. it's actually all he does. "
Still didn't acknowledge Weezy getting murdered on his own track by a feature MC.
"what about the song "Life's A Bitch" by nas? it's funny because the sentence after you talk about lifes a bitch being unoriginal you mention nas being original. hmmmmmm
but seriously that definition blows hahahahahahaha its like a 5 yr old kid thought of it"
Congrats, you found one song in Nas' catalog where he uses the phrase! How many are in Weezy's? All of em? |
Counterfeit
07.16.11 | corey gunz rules but hes signed under nick cannon wtfffffff |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | He's full of spit and hypocrisy today, isn't he andcas? |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "No matter what your argument says, qwe, I'm not going to tell you I wasn't being sarcastic when I was. God, you're so stubborn!"
of course you won't, because you don't want to admit you've been called out. its alright dude, everyone could tell.
"So were mine. See how we play this game?!?!"
yeah the problem is we don't measure artists by the bad music they put out but by the good music. do we care that Common wrote one of the worst rap albums ever? fuck no, because he gave us I Used To Love H.E.R. and Be and shit. Do we hate on Nas even though he gave us a STRING of massively terrible albums? no, because we KNOW he's a god on the mic when he's on and he wrote one of the most important albums ever. you and logic are just not friends at all
"Ummm, what does their flow, in this matter, have to do with a whole song being a metaphor? Running out of arguments?"
i didn't just say flow though did i? i said 90's hardcore street rap. Mobb Deep are continually praised for their production, lyrics and esp prodigy's flow, but they didn't bring anything original to hip hop (or at least original as you're defining it) and anyways my point about flow is relevant, because it's applying the exact same principles i just explained to a different facet of rapping (flow as opposed to content)
"Are you calling me pedantic when you're doing the same thing? Lol how hypocritcal."
i think you need to learn what the word "pedantic" means because you definitely don't at the moment |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "I thought you said mc's couldn't base aka. steal some ones flow."
you said steal, not me. don't put words in my mouth andcas, thats a pathetic way to argue. now, if you're trying to say me sayng "based" is like saying "stole" then you're retarded.
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FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | No, I know what "pedantic" means. I just doubt that you do, since you're now fussing over the details of the other artists. |
Counterfeit
07.16.11 | "Congrats, you found one song in Nas' catalog where he uses the phrase! "
im not in this argument but affirmative action, bro |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "you said steal, not me. don't put words in my mouth andcas, thats a pathetic way to argue. now, if you're trying to say me sayng "based" is like saying "stole" then you're retarded."
Wow.... you really wanna split hairs like that? |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "Still didn't acknowledge Weezy getting murdered on his own track by a feature MC"
ahaha cool! so in other words you got nothing left except a flat empty half pot shot. not the way i'd choose to lose an argument but hey
"Congrats, you found one song in Nas' catalog where he uses the phrase! How many are in Weezy's? All of em?"
you said ANY song. WHOOPS!
plus extra points for that being the title! ahahaha its just not your night tonight is it bro. whatcha in hospital for? did you get a lobotomy? that would explain a shitload
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FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "ahaha cool! so in other words you got nothing left except a flat empty half pot shot. not the way i'd choose to lose an argument but hey"
That's not a pot shot, just a fact. If he were so good, he wouldn't get embarrassed on his own track. I also found that on "Gonorrhea" with Drake. Drake HUMILIATED him. |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "would it be safe to say then wayne "bases" his style around drake then."
no, because he's been around way longer and his flow changes all the time on his whim. for example, on Tha Carter III there is definitely his signature flow on tracks, but A Milli, Playin' With Fire, Shoot Me Down etc are complete departures flow-wise.
"Wow.... you really wanna split hairs like that?"
what? me saying based and him saying stole? hmmmmmmmm
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qwe3
07.16.11 | "That's not a pot shot, just a fact"
ahhhh i see, you don't understand the difference between subjectivity and objectivity. cool! so you stilllll got nothin?
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FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | In the hip hop world, if you "base" your music off of anyone else's, that's basically stealing. Face it, qwe, you're splitting hairs in hopes of being right. |
qwe3
07.16.11 | lol dude by all means keep going you do sound like a right moron though |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | Except I'm right. Everyone was sick of DMX and Ja Rule(whack) because they sounded "too much like Pac." Every white rapper is now pigeon-holed because of Eminem. |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | And according to what I"m seeing here, qwe, I'm not in the minority, you are. So stop telling me I'm a moron, because according to the majority you're the biggest fucking idiot on the site. |
Maniac!
07.16.11 | You both sound like dipshits right now, but hey this is entertaining so by all means keep going. |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "In the hip hop world, if you "base" your music off of anyone else's, that's basically stealing."
It. is. not. stealing. if it were considered stealing rakim could sue 90 percent of rappers today. people come in and influence their peers all the time. kool moe dee did it when he basically took rap away from the bullshit party "bangalang diggy diggy" shit. does that mean anytime a rapper raps about something other than just going "bangalang diggy diggy" or "rock this place!!!" they're stealing from him? goddamnit dude |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "Except I'm right. Everyone was sick of DMX and Ja Rule(whack) because they sounded "too much like Pac.""
yeah but NO ONE SAID THEY STOLE. theres a difference between being unoriginal and stealing. actually i think dmx's material is vastly superior to Pac's i mean at least he could write lyrics
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FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | God, you're such a fucking moron. |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "yeah but NO ONE SAID THEY STOLE. theres a difference between being unoriginal and stealing. actually i think dmx's material is vastly superior to Pac's i mean at least he could write lyrics"
God, you're such a fucking moron. [123456789] |
Counterfeit
07.16.11 | one of the new weez tracks off the sftw mixtape mentions tyler, the creator
swag |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "And according to what I"m seeing here, qwe, I'm not in the minority, you are. So stop telling me I'm a moron, because according to the majority you're the biggest fucking idiot on the site."
mmmmm sorry dude but now youre just making shit up. i mean youre getting support from andcas who i think is probably functionally retarded, and i'm definitely not stupid at all i mean cmon dude even people who dislike me admit that im fucking smart so why dont you just stop saying shit and get that spike back in yo head boi
also thanks for your condescending approval maniac i think everyone really feels better for it! |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | Not really. I can just look at the overall ratings of his albums and know I'm in the majority. |
qwe3
07.16.11 | hey nice guys hes stopped actually replying hes just going with the copypaste/insult thing nice. unimaginative but hey |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "Not really. I can just look at the overall ratings of his albums and know I'm in the majority."
uhhh...wait. so a bunch of people on this site. like. an. artist. who. i. think. sucks.
and that makes me a moron.
gotcha!
hey guys pit forfeits on the grounds that he has nothing to say anymore go home to your families |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "hey nice guys hes stopped actually replying hes just going with the copypaste/insult thing nice. unimaginative but hey"
FUnny coming from someone who's still using "csb." |
Counterfeit
07.16.11 | yeah but pit this is an elitist hipster site where weezy sux cause hes mainstream n shit |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "uhhh...wait. so a bunch of people on this site. like. an. artist. who. i. think. sucks.
and that makes me a moron.
gotcha!
hey guys pit forfeits on the grounds that he has nothing to say anymore go home to your families"
I find it hysterical how you find yourself so elite when most of the site considers you to either a) be trolling or b) a complete and utter waste of space beyond your taste in music(minus weezy). |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "yeah but pit this is an elitist hipster site where weezy sux cause hes mainstream n shit"
Yeah, except the majority of people I know who have been into hip hop for more than 6 years of their lives hate Weezy because he's ruining hip hop for the next generation. |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "Yeah, except the majority of people I know who have been into hip hop for more than 6 years of their lives hate Weezy because he's ruining hip hop for the next generation."
more than six years!!!?!?!?!?!!?!?!!?!? are they like professionals or something!!?!?!?
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qwe3
07.16.11 | "i'm not supporting either side but I did want that one point cleared up. it's nice you're throwing out insults when I haven't gone that route."
when did i insult you? |
ShadowRemains
07.16.11 | god fucking dammit, i thought this fag was gone for good... |
Relinquished
07.16.11 | I feel like doing something annoying to this thread |
ShadowRemains
07.16.11 | "dryden is a complete faggot. id like to see his facebook, i heard its hilarious."
lol i'd like to see yours... |
qwe3
07.16.11 | sry shadow ill leave :( |
ShadowRemains
07.16.11 | lol i'm sorry qwe :P |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "more than six years!!!?!?!?!?!!?!?!!?!? are they like professionals or something!!?!?!?"
No, but they were around for a different style of hip hop, rather than the younger generation who's only heard this mainstream bastardized version of it. I still love it how you see yourself as much more mature, yet you still act like a 14 year old kid when you join in on a debate. |
qwe3
07.16.11 | gonna make a coffee brb |
Ire
07.16.11 | u still hate sunn o))) |
Relinquished
07.16.11 | no continue qwe
I got your back |
Counterfeit
07.16.11 | "Yeah, except the majority of people I know who have been into hip hop for more than 6 years of their lives hate Weezy because he's ruining hip hop for the next generation."
When you say this I picture white kids who refuse to listen to anything post-2000 not out of New York. |
ShadowRemains
07.16.11 | all the users we need back now are....(cue ramy).... |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "When you say this I picture white kids who refuse to listen to anything post-2000 not out of New York."
That's not my fault, Feit. I'm talking about people who have a diverse taste in music, whether it be hip hop or not. They'd rather listen to hip hop pre-2005(yes, that's a made up cutoff date), whether it be Wu Tang or 2Pac. |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "No, but they were around for a different style of hip hop, rather than the younger generation who's only heard this mainstream bastardized version of it. I still love it how you see yourself as much more mature, yet you still act like a 14 year old kid when you join in on a debate."
I only act like a 14 yr old when i deem someone unworthy of anything else. and i managed to completely destroy you anyways so i mean it's not like it was a detriment.
oh also pretty much every critic would disagree with your friends. dedication 2 and drought 3 are seen as pillars of rap, and carter III as a classic no you can't dispute it because it's actually true. people like his music. he gets good reviews. he sells shit-tons of albums. i'm not saying that to tell you youre wrong i'm just telling you that YOU not ME are in the minority on this one.
Yeah Pac got props in his day but in retrospect the best thing about him was his emotional appeal. lotta rappers didnt have that ability. but in a purely technical sense he was dreadful! like have you actually read his lyrics? it's basic basic stuff. |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "I would file calling me probably functionally retarded under insult."
i apologize then |
ShadowRemains
07.16.11 | "Yeah, I stopped listening to 80% of the shitty deathcore I liked when I was active here, so I doubt much will happen now haha."
highly doubt that |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "I only act like a 14 yr old when i deem someone unworthy of anything else. and i managed to completely destroy you anyways so i mean it's not like it was a detriment."
I love when someone just automatically claims to be the winner when it's really just two people who have different opinions and different tastes. Granted, I do this in jest, but I honestly believes qwe to think of himself as a "winner" on the internet. I highly doubt, however, that he's a winner in real life when his own intellect tells him Weezy's groundbreaking. |
Counterfeit
07.16.11 | "They'd rather listen to hip hop pre-2005(yes, that's a made up cutoff date), whether it be Wu Tang or 2Pac."
Do they not like the concept of fun rap, compared to constant srsns |
qwe3
07.16.11 | hahahaha i never even said he was groundbreaking cmon dude just stop typing. i know it must be hard to have been thoroughly outclassed by some pimply skinny kid whose mum you fucked and forgot to pay or whatever but just let it go! gawd
oh also im a major winner in life bro :) well so far at least |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "Do they not like the concept of fun rap, compared to constant srsns"
Who said that all pre-2005 hip hop was all serious?
"hahahaha i never even said he was groundbreaking cmon dude just stop typing. i know it must be hard to have been thoroughly outclassed by some pimply skinny kid whose mum you fucked and forgot to pay or whatever but just let it go! gawd"
That has to be the saddest post you've ever put up on Sputnik, qwe.
"oh also im a major winner in life bro :) well so far at least"
Haven't been murdered yet, huh? At least you have THAT going for you. |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "That has to be the saddest post you've ever put up on Sputnik, qwe."
what makes it sad?
"Haven't been murdered yet, huh? At least you have THAT going for you."
well yeah i was more going for the studying at a world class uni being good looking living in interesting places being intelligent etc
but yeah not dying has been good for me |
Counterfeit
07.16.11 | "Who said that all pre-2005 hip hop was all serious?"
true, but 95% of people i know who hate weez always have to play some "real" shit to prove to me why its so much better
SEE!!!!! HE'S ACTUALLY RAPPING ABOUT SOMETHING!!!! |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "well yeah i was more going for the studying at a world class uni "
I need the name of that community college.
"living in interesting places"
Put some Hawaiian lei's up and some pictures and you can have that basement looking like an island paradise in no time
"being intelligent"
Says who? Mayor McCheese?
"but yeah not dying has been good for me"
At least it has benefited one person |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "true, but 95% of people i know who hate weez always have to play some "real" shit to prove to me why its so much better
SEE!!!!! HE'S ACTUALLY RAPPING ABOUT SOMETHING!!!!"
Lol, one of my favorites from the 90's was Busta, and he was hardly serious. |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "true, but 95% of people i know who hate weez always have to play some "real" shit to prove to me why its so much better
SEE!!!!! HE'S ACTUALLY RAPPING ABOUT SOMETHING!!!!"
yeah man immortal technique raps about, like, politics and stuff
not even gonna reply to pits response its so pathetic ahaha |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | ^Pathetic, or you just can't remember anymore internet memes? |
qwe3
07.16.11 | if by ultimate rap thread you mean some dude being schooled by someone like half his age in pretty much everything |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "if by ultimate rap thread you mean some dude being schooled by someone like half his age in pretty much everything"
Lol dude, where in the fuck did you school me? If I'm not mistaken, both of us have looked like complete and utter morons on here. I guess ignorance is bliss when you're just as dumb as the rest of the world/ |
Maniac!
07.16.11 | qwe is prob like 14 irl |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | Phaze, shut up [5] |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "Lol dude, where in the fuck did you school me? If I'm not mistaken, both of us have looked like complete and utter morons on here. I guess ignorance is bliss when you're just as dumb as the rest of the world/"
nah just you. i probably looked like i have a lot of time on my hands, but hardly like a moron.
and maniac if i was 14 it'd be so sad that i was that age and that much better at writing than you lol |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "But Qwe, you're better than this. You've put up some good arguments, don't ruin it now"
dude ruin what?
like seriously?
lol |
qwe3
07.16.11 | phaze how many accounts do you have i wanna know if you have more than me |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "nah just you. i probably looked like i have a lot of time on my hands, but hardly like a moron.
and maniac if i was 14 it'd be so sad that i was that age and that much better at writing than you "
Translation: I'm better than you, but have no tangible way to prove it.
"Seriously. Frank, you're annoying, and Qwe is at least twice as smart as you are!"
More irony: Nuclearwarfare/Nullpoint calling someone else annoying. |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "Frank you're being the immature one. Give it up, you can't out-argue qwe"
Okay nullpoint |
Uranium
07.16.11 | thread dead |
qwe3
07.16.11 | actually it's not so much irony as it is hypocrisy but you're getting there.
oh and
"Translation: I'm better than you, but have no tangible way to prove it."
hahaha that's a neat lil trick lemme see if i can do it.
"More irony: Nuclearwarfare/Nullpoint calling someone else annoying."
Translation: I like to watch gorilla porn
hey that was easy! |
Counterfeit
07.16.11 | "ol' dirty bastard had some hilarious rhymes and he was certainly apart of the "old" generation."
he was in wu-tang, null point |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | You don't have to watch. Apparently your statement about "nobody cares" doesn't pertain to you, huh? |
Counterfeit
07.16.11 | i feel like i copied pit for using null point too oh noes |
Maniac!
07.16.11 | "and maniac if i was 14 it'd be so sad that i was that age and that much better at writing than you lol"
can't take a joke very well, I see. |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "Translation: I like to watch gorilla porn
hey that was easy!"
Your mom still have her awards trophy over the palm trees in your thatch? |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "More irony: you calling nobody better than you"
That made tons of sense. |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | Why don't you go and make another account and leave this to the big boys, okay? |
Maniac!
07.16.11 | 200 comments later.... |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "Go back to your little wap argument"
I would, but it's apparent that someone needs to put you to bed. You seem grumpy :-(! Mommy's back on the corner tonight, huh? |
qwe3
07.16.11 | "can't take a joke very well, I see."
oh it was a joke fuck man now i get it that shits hilarious!
""ol' dirty bastard had some hilarious rhymes and he was certainly apart of the "old" generation.""
yeah but he sucked ass
"@phaze, you say this is a good thread because of the argument. then you applaud qwe but then call him annoying and to stop. make up your mind."
you not been here in awhile? that is literally all the dude does
"Your mom still have her awards trophy over the palm trees in your thatch?"
sigh. i wasnt even insinuating you watched gorilla porn dude i was just showing you how dumb that "translation: ______ " device is
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qwe3
07.16.11 | "Bloodsweat and Carnifex, you've created a monster. Dave's probably going to be licking his lips and stroking that ban button with a sadistic smile on his face."
you realise what the 3 in qwe3 is for right ;)
"Why don't you go and make another account and leave this to the big boys, okay?"
you literally have no right to be condescending to anyone so long as they can read this thread dude. lmao |
qwe3
07.16.11 | Disease the virus is spreading in all directions
No safe zone no cure and no protection
No symptoms to find or signs of an infection
No vaccines remedies and no corrections
Quarantines the dreams and sell off our connections
Don't let em in not a friend not a reflection
Everybody's got it and want you to have it next and
Don't accept em if you wanna stay that's an exception
Appeal
The Heal
The I'll of this
Sickness some are still in doubt of it's existence
Some call it forgiveness and some call it the vengeance
Some say it's an exit and some say it's an entrance
The poor say the rich have the cure
The rich say the poor aren't the source
Revolutionaries say it's psychological war
Invented by the press
Just to have something to report
Some say the first case came from a maternity war
Some say em all some say the skies some say the floor
Whores say the nuns, nuns say the whores
And everybody is sure
The scientists said it only infects the mind
The little boy said it only infects the girls
The Preacher said it's gonna kill off the soul
A bum said it's gonna kill the whole wide world
Death is on the tip of her tongue and dangers at the tip of her fingers
Streets
Are
On
Fire
To
Night |
FrankRedHot
07.16.11 | "sigh. i wasnt even insinuating you watched gorilla porn dude i was just showing you how dumb that "translation: ______ " device is"
What does me watching or not watching gorilla porn have to with the Golden Banana your mom won last year?
"you literally have no right to be condescending to anyone so long as they can read this thread dude. lmao"
Lol, and you do?
|
qwe3
07.16.11 | "What does me watching or not watching gorilla porn have to with the Golden Banana your mom won last year?"
dude i cant believe youre still doing the mum jokes thing after i mocked you for basically having nothing else but those. nice
"Lol, and you do? "
duh |
Counterfeit
07.16.11 | phaze seriously shut the fuck up |
ShadowRemains
07.16.11 | well phaze, you're the one that called deviant a "princess" for trying to give you help on your slim shady LP review, soooo.... |
qwe3
07.16.11 | the steven king character? |
qwe3
07.16.11 | hahahaha alrighty |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | Lol this thread has gained legendary status. |
ZilbelPing
07.16.11 | This blew up.
|
Carnifex
07.16.11 | Anyone gonna screencap or not worth it? |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | Nothing photoshop can't fix. |
ZilbelPing
07.16.11 | I saw kitten mittens and immediately started laughing. |
pizzamachine
07.16.11 | What the heck happened o_O |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | ^^^ |
KILL
07.16.11 | you are all gay as fuck m/ |
Waior
07.16.11 | yeah |
Carnifex
07.16.11 | mhmm |
Ire
07.17.11 | sunn o))) rules |
Carnifex
07.17.11 | sunn o))) is still dissonant noise for hipsters. |
BloodSweatandBeers
07.17.11 | "Bloodsweat and Carnifex, you've created a monster."
sigh, its everything i couldve hoped for |
Ire
07.17.11 | plz leave forev |
Crysis
07.17.11 | nile and krallice suck |
BloodSweatandBeers
07.17.11 | "plz leave forev"
nah, this is fun |
qwe3
07.17.11 | "qwe like lil wayne. pit no like lil wayne. phaze say stop. no one listen."
yeah pretty much except you left out the bit about pit being retarded and not liking the truth |
Carnifex
07.17.11 | nile suck lol |
Carnifex
07.17.11 | also krallice isnt trve enough for sputnik i forgot |
ShadowRemains
07.17.11 | "Lol this thread has gained legendary status."
no it hasn't, its just like every other sputnikarguments.com list... |
Carnifex
07.17.11 | anything over 200 posts involving a sputnik god is legendary status. |
FatChickIrl
07.17.11 | lol 200 posts |
Carnifex
07.17.11 | lol |
Ire
07.18.11 | you are really awful please leave
|
LampshadePelican
07.18.11 | lol no he's not he's my friend! NO! Don't leave |
AfterTheBreakdown
07.18.11 | So many comments.... |
LampshadePelican
07.18.11 | Nobody even noticed when i left.... |
Pharoh
07.18.11 | Sputnik users smell weakness and failure from a mile away
i think they're smelling themselves.. |
foreverendeared
07.18.11 | I love it when sputnik users make fun of the general sputnik user population like they're some sort of exclusive enigma. |
Carnifex
07.18.11 | I mean I just love dick, but that might just be me. |
botb
07.18.11 | i remember you. weren't too bad of a user i recall. |
Carnifex
07.18.11 | love you too |