SitarHero: Star Wars Ranking

SitarHero 06.02.18	9 and 10 are interchangeable I suppose. I'm definitely looking forward to the Lando Chronicles, but Boba Fett is overrated af.
Sinternet 06.02.18	last jedi is great and half the people who criticise it do so because they have no understanding of the actual ideas behind the star wars universe
zakalwe 06.02.18	Is that the universe that was created by the Big Bang cash register. Star Wars has gone the way of everything else. Diluted, franchised mulch.
Faraudo 06.02.18	1: Empire Strikes Back. 2: The Last Jedi. 3: Solo: A Star Wars Story (Yeah, this is one of the most underrated movies of the year). 4: A New Hope. 5: Rogue One. 6: Return of the Jedi. 7: The Force Awakens. 8: Revenge of the Sith. 9: Phantom Menace. 10: Attack of the Clones
Faraudo 06.02.18	"last jedi is great and half the people who criticise it do so because they have no understanding of the actual ideas behind the star wars universe" 100%.
SitarHero 06.02.18	"half the people who criticise it do so because they have no understanding of the actual ideas behind the star wars universe" Then consider me the other half. And I'm not dissing it because I hate it. I'm dissing it because I love the Star Wars universe (or something...). You know, the universe where the sole purpose of snubfighters is to attack ships beyond the reach of the weapons of capital ships. The universe where every ship in the galaxy doesn't move at EXACTLY the same speed. The universe where Luke Skywalker is a symbol of hope who actually managed to save the galaxy by believing in the good within a genocidal child murderer. A universe where people don't have mundane fucking names like "Rose" (Solo loses points too because of "Tobias Beckett"). The universe where an entire fleet can't be taken out by a ship making the jump to hyperspace because THAT IDEA WOULD'VE COME IN FUCKING HANDY BACK WHEN THEY HAD TO DESTROY TWO DEATH STARS AND A PLANETARY SUPERWEAPON. Which ideas specifically are you referring to though?
polyrhythm 06.02.18	How is Rose any more mundane a first name than Luke?
SitarHero 06.02.18	"How is Rose any more mundane a first name than Luke?" Admittedly it's subjective, but a person with the name Rose makes me think that there are roses, daffodils and petunias in the SW universe. And if there are roses and daffodils in the SW universe then there are cows. And I sure as fuck don't want cows in my SW universe. Also, Luke's last name was Skywalker, which makes up for the mundanity of his first name.
Papa Universe 06.02.18	Every time you say the word universe I get a boner.
Papa Universe 06.02.18	Also, I loved the Last Jedi.
Storm In A Teacup 06.02.18	"last jedi is great and half the people who criticize (spell checked) it do so because they have no understanding of the actual ideas behind the star wars universe" This is basically a fact and not an opinion. You can't say Last Jedi doesn't represent well the soul of Star Wars because that just makes you look like a noob.
SitarHero 06.02.18	You can't say that Last Jedi DOES represent the soul of Star Wars without actually backing up that argument because THAT makes you look like a knob (and a noob). Just saying.
Papa Universe 06.02.18	You can't actually make a sentence with complex structure without proper punctuation, because that makes you look like a dweeb (and a knob (and a noob)). Just writing.
XingKing 06.02.18	I have yet to see Solo but this is a solid ranking. Though, I'd probably swap 1 and 2 because I have a soft spot for the adventure feel of ANH. "I expected a movie logically, ideologically and thematically coherent with the other movies it shares a universe with, and that expectation was definitely subverted." Hot damn.
XingKing 06.02.18	Oh and you and I clearly feel the same way about AOTC lol
SitarHero 06.02.18	You shouldn't attempt to correct someone's punctuation if you skipped school the day they covered dependent and independent clauses because that's a rookie mistake, and also makes you look like a dweeb (and a knob)(the noob is implied because you're a rookie, rookie). Just teaching.
SitarHero 06.02.18	"Oh and you and I clearly feel the same way about AOTC lol" Haha! The only reason I remember that movie at all is because a friend pointed out that Amidala's blouse gets ripped perfectly symmetrically and somehow her pristine white clothes stay pristine white through an entire battle scene on the dunes. But I guess if long time ago technology can give us lightsabers it can also give us clothes that don't need to be laundered.
Storm In A Teacup 06.02.18	I agree tho attack of the clones just needs to be forgotten
Storm In A Teacup 06.02.18	If you read the books from now back to the old canon i feel like those qualifying people should think Last Jedi followed true to Star Wars.
Sinternet 06.02.18	storm the z is an americanisation - criticise is the original spelling but other than that yes sitar i'll post a lengthy rebuttal later i gotta sleep now but I think you really seem to have got this warped (or maybe flanderised) view on how the star wars universe works, and once you strip last jedi down to it's basics it's actually very similar tto empire
unclereich 06.02.18	Wow an sw rating list i agree with
SitarHero 06.02.18	"If you read the books from now back to the old canon i feel like those qualifying people should think Last Jedi followed true to Star Wars." Well admittedly, I'm not in touch with the new canon the way I was with the old, and I did eventually give up on the NJO books because of what a joyless slog they were. But, except for a couple of anthologies, I've read every Bantam-era book, a lot of the Dark Horse comics and played most of the PC games made before 2003-ish. I owned an encyclopedia and contributed to wookiepedia. Hell, my college admission essay was about Star Wars (seriously). So, no. I don't easily buy the argument that TLJ is true to the spirit of Star Wars. Not in the least.
SitarHero 06.02.18	"i'll post a lengthy rebuttal later" I look forward to it.
Egarran 06.02.18	Pros for the prequels should include Plnkett's amazing yt-reviews (https://youtu.be/FxKtZmQgxrI) and r/prequelmemes. (Also TLJ was pretty bad)
Davil667 06.02.18	"The Original Trilogy is untouchable." No doubt about that, agreed hard. I really like the high ranking you gave Rogue One (although I would never place it before Return of the Jedi), they managed to capture the sprit of the original triology there which totally went awry with TLJ.
robotmagician 06.02.18	everyone who thinks TLJ is bad is an idiot who just wanted to see the same old story again or is mad their theories were wrong. in 20 years people will finally recognize it as a top 3 star wars movie
Davil667 06.02.18	"everyone who thinks TLJ is bad is an idiot... " Lol ignorance at its finest.
zork1222 06.02.18	The force awakens and the last jedi are far better than any of the three shitty prequels.
Papa Universe 06.02.18	@SitarHero: I wasn't really correcting your grammar, I just thought that y'all getting up in arms about the 'philosophy' or whatever, using the same comment structures was kinda funny, so I chimed in with an ironic post, not realising it actually comes off as a grammar correction. Just explaining.
Rik VII 06.02.18	"everyone who thinks is an idiot... " Fixed.
Mentasm 06.02.18	Rogue One is the only good SW movie.
SymbolicInTime 06.02.18	Episode 5, episode 3, episode 4, episode 6, episode 7, Rogue one, episode 8, episode 2, solo, episode 1 imo
SymbolicInTime 06.02.18	Solo almost put me to sleep in theatres lmao
Keyblade 06.02.18	nice ranking actually. I'd put 5 as 3 or 4 but that's about it
Alucard125 06.02.18	Solo was dreadful. Tired action sequences, predictable script, no humour. Plus I found the fact that the robot character was a long-winded joke 'parodying' the suffrage and equal rights movements really uncomfortable.
Maco097 06.02.18	Star Wars blows. I'll rather watch someone painting a wall. That's more amusing
hal1ax 06.02.18	damn... so solo was good? still haven't gotten around to seeing it.
WoodeeX 06.02.18	"Star Wars blows. I'll rather watch someone painting a wall. That's more amusing". What if someone was painting a Star Wars mural?
Tundra 06.02.18	Rogue One is pretty great, it is better than Return of the Jedi imo as well I haven't seen Solo yet either, the first star wars since episode 7 i didn't see in theaters opening weekend,episode 8 is just trash, wish it was retcon'd out
AlexKzillion 06.02.18	Solo had a lot of the same problems that tlj had but I enjoyed it. No way is it better than ROTS tho damn
DoofusWainwright 06.02.18	not a bad ranking actually
AlexKzillion 06.02.18	"last jedi is great and half the people who criticise it do so because they have no understanding of the actual ideas behind the star wars universe" Oh fuck off.
AlexKzillion 06.02.18	I should log off before I waste my day fighting the good fight.
rabidfish 06.02.18	TLJ is a fun movie, i digged.
matbla00 06.02.18	Nah, ewoks were adorable
Rolling Girl 06.02.18	Last Jedi was probably one of my favorite star wars movies so far (need to see Solo still). And I will also always have a soft spot for episode III
matbla00 06.02.18	I feel the same about III, though It's hard not to see its issues
SymbolicInTime 06.02.18	III has made me shed man tears
Underflow 06.02.18	The Last Jedi is the worst Star Wars movie.
rabidfish 06.02.18	ewoks are fucking creeps and ugly fucks
SymbolicInTime 06.02.18	Ewoks are cute and charming af!
SitarHero 06.02.18	"The force awakens and the last jedi are far better than any of the three shitty prequels." The prequels get credit because of George Lucas' ambitious vision. The sequels lose credit for basically being a reboot that cynically cribs set pieces and plot points from the original trilogy. "Solo was dreadful. Tired action sequences, predictable script, no humour. Plus I found the fact that the robot character was a long-winded joke 'parodying' the suffrage and equal rights movements really uncomfortable." I can see why you were uncomfortable with L3. However, I didn't dismiss her as a punchline because she stole every scene she was in and actually became one of the emotional cores of the movie. There's a fine line between parodying a movement and creating a humorous analogy, and I thought L3 was on the right side of that line. Also, saying Solo has no humour is a weird criticism because there IS plenty of humour. The movie just doesn't go out of its way to cram a joke into every single scene, which is something we've come to expect from Disney movies. I'll admit that the first half of the movie introduces the characters and which sets up the story feels simultaneously rushed and draggy, but once Lando shows up everything about the movie picks up noticeably.
Storm In A Teacup 06.02.18	"The Original Trilogy is untouchable." tell that to George Lucas...ffs
Storm In A Teacup 06.02.18	"The prequels get credit because" Who said this before Force Awakens came out tho
SitarHero 06.02.18	"tell that to George Lucas...ffs" Bwahaha! Touche.
Storm In A Teacup 06.02.18	man, the double turn moment when Kylo was like, "fuck no being evil rocks socks" and rey's gonna cry was SOOOO star wars lulz I almost felt like this made up for Jaina and Jacen not being in the canon/movies. It doesn't. But it almost did.
Dmax28 06.02.18	Good list. Yea I liked Rogue One, the only good one of the new 4 at this point. The Last Jedi is legit the worst movie I've ever seen. The theater I was in was so deflated after that garbage. It also ruined all the potential The Force Awakens had built up so now The Force Awakens is almost just as bad and is now nonsensical due to the Last Jedi. I don't give a shit about Solo.
SitarHero 06.02.18	"Who said this before Force Awakens came out tho" Nobody, but TFA and TLJ have actually managed to make the prequels look better by comparison. The question you have to ask yourself is, do you prefer competent but cynically derivative filmmaking, or ambitious storytelling that often crumples under the weight of its own ambition.
Storm In A Teacup 06.02.18	that's not the experience i had in the theater. people were literally jumping out of the back of their chairs to sitting on the edge of their chairs. i went the first day though. shit was serious in that last hour of the movie.
Storm In A Teacup 06.02.18	i agree sitar, nobody, but for the opposite reasons. I would have listed episode 3 as a top three star wars movie when there was only 6 of them. The vision was great and stumbled for the first two movies, but as time has gone on for me...those movies only get worse and the new movies coming out makes Episode 1 and 2 completely unwatchable and worse with time. Episode 1 at least has good spots. 2 is just offensive.
Storm In A Teacup 06.02.18	gotta go to work
SitarHero 06.02.18	@StormInATeacup: I think you'll find my rating reflects what you said. ROTS had terrible moments, but its good moments were great and were better than any of the good moments from TFA and TLJ simply by virtue of not being directly lifted from the original trilogy. TFA was a movie I rate (fairly) highly because I understand why it was made like an SW greatest hits collection. However, TLJ came along and kind of shat on everything that TFA sets up while ALSO lifting heavily from the original trilogy. That's pretty bad filmmaking, imo. Still, if you were to give TLJ credit for merely being a competent standalone film, I still don't see how you can put it any higher than anything EXCEPT the prequels.
smaugman 06.02.18	8 and 10 are the best
Underflow 06.02.18	lolol
nol 06.02.18	i liked the last jedi a lot, but rose is a shitty character
AlexKzillion 06.02.18	Are we allowed to drop Solo spoilers? (I mean there's not even really anything to spoil other then that one thing at the end of the movie.)
Tundra 06.02.18	I mean, part of the reason why i didn't see Solo was because it carries no weight and Chewie and Han survive after the movie and we pretty much already know everything that happens in a tiny piece of dialogue in Episode 4, but they had to expand on it to make a cheap cash grab, regardless if the film was good or not
AlexKzillion 06.02.18	True. SPOILER ALERT: Chewie and Han take a shower together
Egarran 06.02.18	Thanks, movie ruined.
SitarHero 06.02.18	"we pretty much already know everything that happens in a tiny piece of dialogue in Episode 4" No, you really don't.
SitarHero 06.02.18	"it carries no weight and Chewie and Han survive after the movie" Is that the sole criterion for watching a movie? To know whether or not the characters will die? SPOILER ALERT: Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, Ant-Man, and the Wasp, and Black Widow all survive their upcoming movies. Also, Spider-Man, T'Challa, Star-Lord and the other Guardians of the Galaxy, will also be back in, and will survive, Infinity War 2. There, I just saved you about $75 cos' now you don't have to watch those movies. You're welcome!
worthlessscab 06.02.18	the last jedi was an attempt at recreating the ideas behind the kotor 2 game by a dullard