BenedictVII: It Happened...

bloc 10.11.10	What have you done...
tiesthatbind 10.11.10	I couldn't even make it half-way.
Foxhound 10.11.10	another epiphany about Jane Doe... yay
Inveigh 10.11.10	yes, Jane Doe rules. 2010 albums you should dig, based on this list: Deftones - Diamond Eyes Parades - Foreign Tapes Foals - Total Life Forever Arcade Fire - The Suburbs The Bled - Heat Fetish
Emim 10.11.10	Say goodbye to your individuality.
Baphomet 10.11.10	Haters gonna hate. ... and then go 5 Emery. Sigh This time around you're not alone, bloc.
Satellite 10.11.10	Good stuff here. Check out... Titus Andronicus - The Monitor Bomb the Music Industry! - Adults!!!: Smart!!! Shithammered!!! And Excited by Nothing!!! Los Campesinos! - Romance Is Boring The Menzingers - Chamberlain Waits The Hold Steady - Heaven Is Whenever The Gaslight Anthem - American Slang Frightened Rabbit - The Winter of Mixed Drinks
bloc 10.11.10	WHO ELSE IS THERE HUH?
Ire 10.11.10	Follow the path of the one called Satellite.
couldwinarabbit 10.11.10	Titus Andronicus - The Monitor enjoying a lot
TheBloodTypo 10.11.10	letlive - Fake History Called to Arms - Peril and the Patient Kvelertak - Kvelertak Comeback Kid - Symptoms + Cures
NigelH 10.11.10	THE SUBURBS
AnotherBrick 10.11.10	once again, congrats on being musically retarded now
Emim 10.11.10	^There's this guy too.
Maniac! 10.11.10	stfu brick :S
Baphomet 10.11.10	Well brick hasn't 5d Emery so he still has some sanity.
AnotherBrick 10.11.10	: )
bloc 10.11.10	I am insane :D
Baphomet 10.11.10	It's one thing to be crazy, but being proud of it is just disturbing....
bloc 10.11.10	Hee....teehee....heh heh heh.......BA.........HAHA.... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Ahem.
eternium 10.11.10	Daughters - Daughters Deftones - Diamond Eyes Fields of Locust - Subtopia Nails - Unsilent Death Throats - Throats Dangers - Messy, Isn't It? Black Breath - Heavy Breathing More Than Life - Love Let Me Go Crucified - Coldest Winter; Darkest Reaches of the Mind Intronaut - Valley of Smoke
Strider 10.11.10	what is up with people liking Converge so much? they're really nothing special...
Satellite 10.11.10	Says the dude who gave 30 Seconds to Mars and BFMV fives.
Strider 10.11.10	"Says the dude who gave 30 Seconds to Mars and BFMV fives" I still don't go around saying they're the best bands ever. If sounding highly distorted and chaotic with no visible structure means being good music, them count me out...
BigTuna 10.11.10	Converge is a spectacular band you just truly have to invest
Ire 10.11.10	Follow the path of the one called Satellite. [2] btw saying that converge have no structure makes you sound like an idiot.
Strider 10.11.10	But don't you guys like it better when it just clicks with a band, and don't have to force yourself to listen to it, so that you might like it one day?
LG 10.11.10	Whats the point of investing in shit?
Strider 10.11.10	I said that they have no visible structure. I mean the structure has to be here, but I'm having troubles seeing it.
BigTuna 10.11.10	A. it's not shit B. no, i kind of like spending time with an album until it clicks C. listen to it more
Satellite 10.11.10	Some albums are immediately recognizable as amazing, while others require some investment. Jane Doe (obviously) fits the latter category.
Ire 10.11.10	"But don't you guys like it better when it just clicks with a band, and don't have to force yourself to listen to it, so that you might like it one day?" you really have to be dumb if this is your perspective on enjoying music
Strider 10.11.10	I'm trying to get into axe to fall first, but doing it slowly, Converge is highly abrasive.
Strider 10.11.10	"you really have to be dumb if this is your perspective on enjoying music" I never said I was against giving a band a try even though I didn't like it the first time. I did so with The Dillinger Escape Plan and now I enjoy these guys
LG 10.11.10	I understand a lot of people here respect and somehow enjoy Converge. But to me they're awful, and that's probably not gonna change.
Emim 10.11.10	"Whats the point of investing in shit?" Bam.
TheBloodTypo 10.11.10	If an album instantly clicks with you, that usually means there's nothing more to listen for that you didn't hear the first time. if an album, such as Jane Doe, comes along, and you have to take multiple listens from different angles to understand it as a whole, it is somewhat of a masterpiece. Essentially, what you're saying is that you prefer "Twinkle Twinkle" to "Beethoven's 5th," because Beethoven's 5th requires much listening and an acquired ear to fully appreciate.
Ire 10.11.10	Oh, sorry for the hostility then. I understand. I thought that you were hinting at... eh never mind. To be honest I don't understand how Converge are a grower band. Jane Doe and Axe To Fall were pretty great on first listens
TheBloodTypo 10.11.10	I liked Jane Doe on first try, but I didn't see the hype of it until a couple thousand more listens.
Emim 10.11.10	Converge just isn't as good as other metalcore bands.
TheBloodTypo 10.11.10	I don't really consider them metalcore. It's hard the genre them.
SlightlyEpic 10.11.10	no, they're better.
Strider 10.11.10	@TheBloodTypo, you've made a good point here. But I can click with an album at first listen and not realize everything it has to offer. @Ire, no sweat, bro. I'm actually giving axe to fall a shot right now, and I do see why they are appreciated here. But it's sure to take some time for me to truly like it
TheBloodTypo 10.11.10	I, personally, just don't find it quite as satisfying to instantly click. Everyone's different.
Strider 10.11.10	Of course. And yeah, what are they actually? I mean, they don't really follow metalcore standards.
Emim 10.11.10	Nah, Converge gets old quick and Jane Doe isn't even their best; that's You Fail Me
PanasonicYouth 10.11.10	Follow the path of the one called Satellite. [3] satty knows his shit
Emim 10.11.10	They don't follow modern metalcore standards*
FrostbiteOblivion 10.11.10	Oceana's Clean Head EP is definately worth your time, it's fantastic.
Strider 10.11.10	Sorry Emim, but I don't see any hardcore in them, but then again, I don't know hardcore very well, so I'm going to follow you on this one
Emim 10.11.10	Don't just base it off of Jane Doe; listen to Axe to Fall and Petitioning the Empty Sky.
Strider 10.11.10	I was basing it off Axe To Fall. I've never finished Jane Doe yet.
deathofasalesman 10.11.10	What is up with everyone just now checking out Jane Doe?
PurpleDrank 10.11.10	maybe they want to get into metalcore?
Emim 10.11.10	I definitely wouldn't recommend Jane Doe for getting into metalcore.
deathofasalesman 10.11.10	Yeah. I don't even like calling Converge metalcore.
Baphomet 10.11.10	^salesman is right. Converge pretty much has a genre of its own and is not the way into metalcore. The way I see it, JD can only be fully enjoyed if you already like both metalcore and grind.
Baphomet 10.12.10	Yeah that works too.
JustJoe. 10.12.10	Yay
BigTuna 10.12.10	Honestly Axe to Fall is probably the easiest to get into.
Baphomet 10.12.10	To me it's either Axe to Fall or No Heroes.
BenedictVII 10.12.10	Ha, wow. I've got a lot more comments than I was expecting. There are just some albums out there where you know greatness is hiding in it, you just can't see it yet. Then after a few listens when it finally clicks it's all the better for it.