DinosaurJones: Giving up Caffeine (but doing other healthy things)

DinosaurJones 12.20.17	Being a fat guy sucks. I don't want to be a fat guy anymore.
sixdegrees 12.20.17	check fugazi
LieutenantFartbreath 12.20.17	Caffeine is actually good for your body, and you can trust my opinion, I invented it.
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	I've been meaning to check Fugazi, so I should do that.
guitarded_chuck 12.20.17	stick to it for a few months and looking back at statements like "giving up soda was hard" or whatever will seem silly discipline yo
sixdegrees 12.20.17	the collective discography of Ian MacKay and Guy Piciotto is a big inspiration for me when it comes to clean livin
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	I dunno if I'll end up giving up caffeine as a whole, I also really like drinking tea, though I suppose there are decaffeinated teas...
MO 12.20.17	uhhhh but wendy's is so good. just go less often
MO 12.20.17	"I should probably look into some other form of exercise besides walking, maybe some home yoga or something, I can't really afford a gym membership at the moment." body weight workouts dude. do lots of pushups, situps, get like some 30/40 lb dumbelss cheap somewhere and you can literally do anything. at least to get started. chinups too, chinups are beyond key
sixdegrees 12.20.17	peppermint tea is my fave, also white tea has less caffeine and tastes better to me. obv if you drink black tea w milk or w/e there are decaf alternatives
AsleepInTheBack 12.20.17	6 is a fucking gem. also, solid idea giving up energy drinks, I used to drink them daily and I feel much better these days now I don't really touch them. all the best with it
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	@six: I'm a green tea kind of guy. Can't say I've tried White tea to my knowledge, I'll have to give it a try. @MO: Probably a good idea. I'll see if I can find any dumbbells for cheap on FB market or craigslist or some place, someone is always selling something. as for chin-ups.... I don't think I've ever been able to do a chin-up/pull-up in my life. Also, I'm 6'4 and live in a one-bedroom apartment, so I don't know where I'll have the opportunity to do chin-ups, haha. Yo, all I've been listening to lately is 6 & 2.
Demon of the Fall 12.20.17	I like coffee (although I don't drink copious amounts) & beer :-(. I'm not fat but I am always tired, think I actually have an undiagnosed sleep disorder though honestly, apparently my breathing is very strange & I can answer questions whilst I'm 'asleep'. Before I make this all about me, good luck man, energy drinks are the worst so that'll definitely be a productive start even if you can just cut them out (without all the other stuff). It probably will be very hard to start with but you seem prepared.
MO 12.20.17	" and live in a one-bedroom apartment, so I don't know where I'll have the opportunity to do chin-ups" go find a park that has monkey bars, easy
anat 12.20.17	water is your saviour my friend
jagride 12.20.17	look up negative pull ups/ chin ups, they'll help you gradually build up yr strength if you can't do one unassisted now
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	@Demon: Never been too into coffee, and I rarely drink beer, so I'm lucky in that regard at least. I don't think I sleep very well either, honestly. No way to tell, really though. @MO I'll have to search around so I can torture myself then. There's probably something nearby. @Anatelier: Yeah, I don't drink enough water for sure. Sometimes I'm very good about it, but if I don't pay attention, I'm probably not hydrated enough. It's something I need to pay more attention to. Generally though, all I usually drink is water, and I would have my one Monster per day. I would really only drink soda if I went out to eat/picked up food.
guitarded_chuck 12.20.17	theres such little caffeine in tea i think youre fine you dont need to go full psycho
guitarded_chuck 12.20.17	uhhhh but wendy's is so good. just go less often [2] i eat wendys once a week when im bulking for a treat and just like a blast of carbs and fat for recovery, if you work out a lot you too can afford the odd junky meal, its the sedentary lifestyle that contributes mostly to obesity, people are fucking lazy at this point my like maintenance daily cals are over 3000
RunOfTheMill 12.20.17	I support you dinoboy. I drink lots of water and some tea every day. Caffeine ain't bad for you, but it can be in excess. I'd say the worst thing with energy drinks is the excessive sugar in it.
guitarded_chuck 12.20.17	reality is you have to achieve a balance or you wont sustain the thing, dont deprive yourself completely thats unnecessary and unrealistic
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	Thanks a lot guys, I really want to make this stick. I have a lot of friends who have recently given up smoking, and when I asked what made the difference, most of them said "This time, I just really wanted to." So I'm hoping I can work towards all this shit and get into to some kind of shape that isn't "pear."
RunOfTheMill 12.20.17	Chuck's got the right idea, everything in moderation
butcherboy 12.20.17	green tea has a modicum of caffeine and is otherwise very good for you.. try that maybe? as far as exercise, walking with music is the best for me, I can't stand running.. i do sit-ups and push-ups constantly throughout the day as I perform daily nonsense activities.. seems to do the trick if you keep at it.. Exercise prison hole style.. hahaha
deathschool 12.20.17	Just start doing cocaine
deathschool 12.20.17	Energy drinks are giving you a sugar crash, not caffeine. I don't think caffeine crashes are a thing, but sometimes caffeine can put me on edge.
cylinder 12.20.17	Coffee good
Negator 12.20.17	Yea what most people have been saying cut the energy drinks, caffeine is cool.
guitarded_chuck 12.20.17	caffeines not bad for you physically but it is definitely addictive, if i stopped cold turkey right now id be a yawning headachey mess for like 3 days plus it can give some people anxiety, give them insomnia not the devil im not giving it up but i can see why some might want to
Ocean of Noise 12.20.17	Honestly, walking is great exercise. I walk for about an hour a day and if you really push yourself it's great. Much more enjoyable than running. Your body doesn't need caffeine. No one's does. I stay away from the stuff and I'm much better for it. It used to give me all kinds of anxiety and I had trouble concentrating and doing work. Nowadays I just get a good night's sleep and I'm good. Stay AWAY from soft drinks and fast food. When eating meals, fill your plate, but don't take seconds. Limit your desserts to one small serving as well: one cookie, one brownie, one piece of cake, one scoop of ice cream, etc. DON'T eat snack food because it's a slippery slope and it's hard to keep track of how much of it you're eating. If at some point you can afford a gym membership, do it. It's worth it. You'll have to discipline yourself to actually go but even just spending half an hour on a machine (I love the stair machine personally) can go a long way. Plus, you can always watch TV while you're on the machines so it's not as tedious as it sounds. That's my advice. Take care of yourself man and good luck.
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	Hey thanks a lot, everyone, I really appreciate all the advice! Yeah, I'm hoping once my finances settle I can get a gym membership, there's a nice place within walking distance from my apartment, it's only 5 or 6 blocks away. And I know how to cook, but I live alone, so my only excuse for picking up food often is laziness/convenience sake, and that's another thing I really need to work on. I'll be much better off if I just cook for myself more often.
mindleviticus 12.20.17	I hear mcdonalds has a new healthy menu; it's basically looks the same but if you give the cashier a wink they give you the healthy and visually identical version of the same food.
Dinosaur 12.20.17	Get a slow cooker. Its like Zero effort. And cheaper than buying prepared.
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	Yeah, that's a good call, I really want to get a slow cooker, that way I can do my prep the night before, and just turn it on when I leave for work in the morning and not have as much prep/cook/cleanup time when I get home.
ZombieToyDuck 12.20.17	slow cookers are your friend and meal prepping on sundays dude is a great solution, cook for a few days or a week even. These are great I used to make these a tonn http://www.hungry-girl.com/recipe-makeovers/healthy-improved-lasagna-cupcakes theres tons more on here that are honestly great and last several days
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	Not that I hate cooking, but some nights I really, really don't feel like doing it. Last night I got lazy and just ate some fried eggs and half a bagel. But that's probably better than getting Burger King or whatever. I'll have to get a slow cooker for sure, maybe a holiday present for myself.
BMDrummer 12.20.17	check fugazi go vegan
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	XxX SxE XxX Vegan ain't happening, bruh. I love my burgers too much. I mostly eat Chicken though, it's cheap.
Risodo 12.20.17	Hey bro, nice to read this. In august i decided to change some things in my life. From 2011 to 2015 i used to be a healthy guy, so the depression and other things hit me and i lost all my interest in healthy things, and in the life, to say so. I started to gain a lot of weight, and i realized that in this period of time, i used to drank Monster and energy drinks almost everyday, like you. It's been almost 4 months of exausting exercise e some sadness to stop eating some things and drinking energy drinks. I lost half of the weight i gained in three years, and now i must say that i'm feelling much more younger. Sometimes i drink a Monster (the lo-carb), and in my time of work i drink a cup of coffee, but this help me a lot to sweat like a pig in the gym. Hope you win this battle, the first three weeks is like hell, and your body forces you to go to the market to buy that stuff. It's harsh.
Risodo 12.20.17	I forgot to say that in this last four months, i'm drinking four to five liters of water per day. This will help you a lot too my friend.
KjSwantko 12.20.17	Damn dude- RIP. The caffeine withdrawal will kill you. As a coffee addict myself, I would never even attempt removing it from my life lol.
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	Thanks a lot, Risodo, that's actually really motivating to hear! I tend to drink a lot of water at work, but then when I get home I kinda just stop. I gotta try to keep sucking down that water even when I get out of the office.
foxblood 12.20.17	you can do it. i was pretty bad with energy drinks too tbh, i had at least one a day if i didn't have coffee. i haven't bought one in maybe 6 months and i stopped soda too. i don't really want them anymore, especially soda. i' never had weight problems from it but i couldn't imagine they were good for me either, and i did lose a couple pounds, enough to fit in high school shirts again. energy drinks are a waste of money, red bulls are especially expensive.
Risodo 12.20.17	It's the way, mate. It's hard, i'm doing this but in the beggining i forced myself to drink water. But as a guy with a shitty metabolism, i think i'm doomed to do this forever to stay healthy. It's the life. Also, CHON is incredible, props to putting in your list.
DominionMM1 12.20.17	pro tip: when you do cook make a shitload of it so you have leftovers for lunch or dinner in the future
Risodo 12.20.17	@foxblood In months without drinking, we lost total interest in these drinks. Red Bull is fucking expensive, and here in Brazil is like three times more expensive than in the states.
DominionMM1 12.20.17	but i imagine cocaine is much cheaper so go with that
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	Yeh, that's what I try to do, Dominion. I usually cook a big pot of something on Sunday and then eat it for lunch through the week, that way I don't buy crap/spend money in the caf at work. I gotta admit, another part of wanting to give up the energy drinks is I'll save money for sure. Spending $20 a week on something like that was really starting to bother me, haha.
CompostCompote 12.20.17	My best-selling dietary guide "Tapeworms, Bulimia, Methamphetamines and a Better You" is widely available.
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	I gotta get on that South Beach Paradise program, tbh.
mifzal 12.20.17	caffeine roundhouse kicks your brain yells BITCH STAY AWAKE !!! not exactly healthy. it has some pros for some and cons for others. I still love coffee though
bloc 12.20.17	Substitute all your sugar and energy drinks for water. Trust me.
bloc 12.20.17	Water keeps you alert, awake, prevents headaches, helps cwith weight loss, prevents bloating, the list goes on. It is especially important in the mornings.
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	Thanks, bloc bb. I'm working on it.
mifzal 12.20.17	a lot of your problems can be eased by proper sleep, which obviously is the arch nemesis of caffeine.
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	Yeah, that's an area of my life I've never been good at.
JAV 12.20.17	Good luck. Pick up a workout habit even if it's just walking or bike riding. Once it becomes routine it's much easier to keep it up.
elliootsmeuth 12.20.17	I can't really offer any advice for maintaining a lower weight (I've eaten entire pizzas before and lost weight in the process), but I'm real happy for you that you're trying to get healthier. It's not an easy thing to do. My good friend was up at 277lbs when he had enough of it and started dieting and running and now he's down to 200lbs. He's become a much happier and more confident person. Only advice I could offer is maybe drinking tea instead of coffee. Definitely healthier.
zakalwe 12.20.17	‘Wendys’, ‘soda’, and being overweight. How fitting that this turned into the most yank thread of all time.
bloc 12.20.17	Yeah regular physical exercise will make you sleep like a fuckin baby every night. Literally every night my head hits the pillow and I'm gone in 10 min tops.
Relinquished 12.20.17	fuck yea
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	Moar water, moar life.
bloc 12.20.17	One must become a camel to survive
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	Gotta fill that hump. Also, I am getting increased exercise by how often I have to get up from my desk to go piss. So it adds up.
bloc 12.20.17	Hell yeah that's one of the many bonuses. Plus, less working time, less time to be annoyed by coworkers, extra time to use your phone in the washroom, etc This sounds silly, but a game I like to play everyday is "how clear is my pee". The goal is to consistently keep it clear to light yellow. Any darker than that means you need to drink more water. And if you have an empty stomach, be prepared to piss every 15 min lol. Red pee, you say? Seek professional help. Clear fluid but not pee? A female coworker just brushed up against you, no biggie.
Relinquished 12.20.17	get paid to take a shit
Drifter 12.20.17	Damn I'd love some Wendy's right now. Too bad there's no location near me
bloc 12.20.17	"get paid to take a shit" This is advanced level. But yes, this is the fuckin guy
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	Anyone that doesn't poop on company time is doing themselves a disservice. That said, I also spend a significant amount of my workday on Sput.
Drifter 12.20.17	Dino make another tourney
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	Haha, I'll probably make another after the holidays, Drifter. My time on Sput will be sporadic and I don't want to leave people hanging and all that junk.
Drifter 12.20.17	Swag
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	Guess I gotta drink more water to score some points in "How clear is my pee?"
Spec 12.20.17	Good job dude. Green tea is your friend and delicious Perrier.
SCREAM! 12.20.17	"I could offer is maybe drinking tea instead of coffee" Maybe marginally but black coffee is basically calorie free and if you limit your intake (and don't have insomnia/anxiety issues) the caffeine is pretty harmless. I typically have a cup of coffee in the morning and depending how I'm feeling sometimes go for tea in the afternoon. Herbal tea in the evenings can be nice and calming too (especially something like peppermint or chamomile)
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	I've never tried mint tea, I'll have to try it for sure.
kevbogz 12.20.17	I wish you the best of luck dude. idk if this helps, or if you care, but every morning I'll do a tablespoon of ACV(the Bragg brand's got one w/ cayenne pepper, honey, and lemon for weight control) with lukewarm water, kombucha, and green powder that has 1 daily serving of fruits and veggies (I get mine from Trader Joe's). it's honestly a perfect pick-me-up and can keep ya full for a couple hours.
BlackMalachite 12.20.17	Giving up caffeine is a wonderful idea dude, that shit fucks you up.
hal1ax 12.20.17	good for you man. you have the right mentality, just have to be persistent and discipline. it may also help you to do some substantive research in exercise / dietary spheres. take it step by step though, it's never a good idea to cut multiple bad habits all at once. that tends to be overwhelming for people. just try to stay away from sugar and processed food in general (especially grain / dairy). oh ye and white tea [2] is dank
hal1ax 12.20.17	try to swap out a lot of carbohydrates with good saturated fat (and when u do eat carbs go for carbs lower on the glycemic index like brown rice / yams). saturated fat can actually replace carbs as an energy source for your body / brain. after you burn through your glycogen storages your body begins to convert fat into glycol and then into glucose (energy source of brain/body). so if at first you energy is shit just give it some time and you will acclimate accordingly
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	Cool, thanks hal, I'll keep that stuff in mind. Looks like I'll have to try out some different kinds of tea as well.
bloc 12.20.17	Caffeine also helps to keep your shits regular. I don't drink coffee or tea ever, but I do take 200 mg before working out, and if my stomach is somewhat empty I'll feel the need to take a shit. I consume a lot of fiber on a daily basis though, so I'm shitting once every 1/1.5 days essentially lol
supremejelly 12.20.17	If you want to empty your bowels and then some, just be an idiot and drink preworkout shortly after consuming whey protein. Source: me (am idiot)
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	That... sounds like it would end poorly.
bloc 12.20.17	"If you want to empty your bowels and then some, just be an idiot and drink preworkout shortly after consuming whey protein. Source: me (am idiot)" Ah, so that's where your username comes from
AlexKzillion 12.20.17	"I don't drink coffee or tea ever, but I do take 200 mg before working out, and if my stomach is somewhat empty I'll feel the need to take a shit." Literally me like three hours ago damn
bloc 12.20.17	I know, I was in the stall next to yours
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	I got that clear pee
bloc 12.20.17	A winner is you!
mifzal 12.21.17	Problem is people have made carbs the staple food.When it should actually be vegetables and fatty meat. You have no idea how long that keep you going, also fat really is a hero in battling cravings.
mifzal 12.21.17	"If you want to empty your bowels and then some, just be an idiot and drink preworkout shortly after consuming whey protein." morning coffee does wonders
hal1ax 12.21.17	ya man high, good saturated fat diets are key. avocado, coconut, nuts, eggs, raw cheeses / butter , goat milk/cheese, salmon, pork, lamb, kefir, cacao, etc.
StarlessCore 12.21.17	Every time I eat healthy for a bit I relapse to reeses cups The ones with the reeses pieces r dank af
mifzal 12.21.17	try bakerymade/homemade peanut butter cups, one bite will fill you up.
CaimanJesus 12.21.17	Good on ya
DinosaurJones 12.21.17	God though, I love white rice. So much. That's what I get for growing up with a Chinese mom. I'm gonna hate cutting down on that.
bloc 12.21.17	Raw oats are the god (i.e. not that pre-made Quaker shit) Oatmeal, natural peanut butter, and flavoured protein powder is my most trusted staple.
bloc 12.21.17	Dino you ever try brown rice? It kicks ass. It takes longer to cook, and I think it is a bit more expensive, but it fills you up A LOT faster, so it kinda balances the price out.
DinosaurJones 12.21.17	Yeah, I should try and make that switch, 'cause I really don't think I could give up rice.
mifzal 12.21.17	I don't recommend any type of grain or starchy vegetable as a staple food, especially if you are over 35. Maybe one meal in a day.
Satellite 12.21.17	i quit caffeine ~6 months ago and it's one of the best decisions i've ever made. way less frequent issues with anxiety and insomnia since then. the withdrawals were unpleasant and i was probably an irritable dick to everyone around me but i got over that in a couple weeks.
Satellite 12.21.17	also if you cut your sodium intake down to ~1500 mg/day you'll (probably) be amazed by how rapidly you shed the lbs.
UpwardSpiral 12.21.17	I usually limit caffeine because it gets me anxious. I quit caffeine 2 months cold turkey in the past and withdrawals were crazy. Feverish, depressed, no energy. But now I kinda depend on it during my thesis writing.
guitarded_chuck 12.21.17	any weight you lose by cutting sodium is just water weight ftr otherwise the cause of the weight loss is a calorie reduction
bloc 12.21.17	Calorie reduction is rule #1 for weight loss, plain and simple.
guitarded_chuck 12.21.17	the only rule the law of conservation of energy
DinosaurJones 12.21.17	This morning is a little easier to get through, though I'm sure the fact that I got more sleep last night is a gigantic difference.
Demon of the Fall 12.21.17	In tribute to your endeavours I've had one less croissant (banana replacement) & one less coffee today, cut out the afternoon one... I still have an early morning & a midday coffee but it's crappy instant stuff, so not silly strong. I'm also quitting Lucozade, decided it's about time. Let's go people.
DinosaurJones 12.21.17	I'm pounding down that water, haha. I have a 20 oz bottle that I constantly refill throughout the day... been here for 3.5 hours and had about 50 oz so far.
Satellite 12.21.17	"any weight you lose by cutting sodium is just water weight ftr" this is true. but the amount of sodium in most western diets (especially the u.s.) is crazy unhealthy and cutting back has a shit ton of health benefits.
guitarded_chuck 12.21.17	yeah definitely
mifzal 12.21.17	Western diet isn't particularly unhealthy when you look at Asia and middle east a lot of the population have the Wheat-belly with rising gastronomic, cardiovascular and diabetic problems. It's just that people in the west eat extravagantly (3-6 huge mama size meals + Snacking + desserting + drinking)
bloc 12.21.17	I too will join you on this crusade, in some form. Btw, bananas are godly, don't skip out on those. They have a lot of nutritional benefits other than simply providing quick energy. "I'm pounding down that water, haha. I have a 20 oz bottle that I constantly refill throughout the day... been here for 3.5 hours and had about 50 oz so far." True it depends on body weight and size, but chill my boy, that is a lot haha. Take your time. Seeing any physical change can take weeks.
guitarded_chuck 12.21.17	yeah its a mostly a combination of meal portion size + sugar intake + sedentary lifestyles if people cared enough to take the time to research their daily caloric expenditure and exercise obesity would be cured, its really not complicated whatsoever
DinosaurJones 12.21.17	I'm a big boi. But yeah, I love bananas too, haha.
Demon of the Fall 12.21.17	The only reason I'm not fat is my portion sizes are fairly modest & I just eat the 3 square meals a day... i.e. don't really snack very often outside of that. What I actually eat isn't amazingly nutritious (not consistently anyway) & I do literally no strenuous exercise whatsoever. I get out of breath easily & don't sleep properly, maybe it's connected. You can be a healthy weight whilst still being unhealthy, that's what I'm trying to say. I do agree that a lot of Westerners simply eat far too much though.
bloc 12.21.17	Staying disciplined and patient is easily the most difficult thing about weight loss/gain. And this is expected, given that we now live in an era of "I want it now/I want it faster/I want it smaller/I want it better/I want it cheaper"
DinosaurJones 12.21.17	Yeah, I'm typically a very patient person in general, so I'll just have to work on that for this.
supremejelly 12.21.17	Key for me is intermittent fasting. I only eat between 12-8. It lets me have two giant meals during the day so I feel like I'm eating a lot even though I'm having less calories than if I ate smaller meals throughout the day. Plus it helps my appetite. There's other benefits to it, lots of stuff about it online.
DinosaurJones 12.21.17	I'll have to figure out what works for me, because I work from 7-3:30. I typically eat breakfast in between 7-8, and today I still have half an hour until lunch and my stomach is growling incessantly. I need to figure out how my stupid digestive system works.
cold 12.21.17	Hey man, I hope it all works out for you. I'm currently trying to kick my soda habit, but it's just so hard to rid of the heavenly-golden nectar of the Gods that is Mountain Dew.
DinosaurJones 12.21.17	I'm really, really hoping that thing people say about "Don't drink soda for like 6 months, then when you try it again, you won't even like it" is true.
cold 12.21.17	"I'm really, really hoping that thing people say about "Don't drink soda for like 6 months, then when you try it again, you won't even like it" is true." ME TOO
bloc 12.21.17	For breakfast, I make a smoothie and just sip on it for the next few hours. Keeps me satiated for a long time. Bananas, skim milk, protein powder, oats, flax, the options are endless. And imagine the time you save.
cold 12.21.17	@bloc, you ever mess with the Breakfast Essentials powder drink mix? Or Boost?
supremejelly 12.21.17	Yeah just a warning the beginning of intermittent fasting SUCKS but after the hurdle it just becomes part of your regular eating habits and it's fine
bloc 12.21.17	"@bloc, you ever mess with the Breakfast Essentials powder drink mix? Or Boost?" Nah man, I avoid as much "unnatural" products as I can. I just use simple ingredients so I know exactly what I am consuming. Now, that I think about it, the only synthesized products I consume are creatine and protein powder.
DinosaurJones 12.21.17	I think I'd like to get in on the smoothie game. I need to get a blender though, haha.
DominionMM1 12.21.17	you can get one of those single serving blenders on the cheap. or just get one at goodwill.
cold 12.21.17	@bloc, you already answered the question I had prepared for you. I drink the Breakfast Essentials every morning, and I just don't think it meets it's "expectations". But the idea of a natural smoothie really intrigues me. I'd like some pointers if you have them (like the best, cost-efficient products to use) and would be so kind to. I'm not overweight, the opposite as a matter of fact, but I'm in my early 30's and want to start eating better. I've noticed I can't eat certain things I used to without it messing my stomach up.
DinosaurJones 12.21.17	Oh damn, Goodwill, that's a great idea, one opened up real close to where I live too.
bloc 12.22.17	The options for blending are endless. At this point, it could be a meme like "yo, what's your blend game". I have this one smoothie that is my go to: skim milk, banana, natural peanut butter, flax seeds, oats, protein powder (either vanilla flavoured casein or whey). That combo has a good amount of carbs, protein, and fat so it's perfect for the morning. It will also keep you full for a long time, which is also important. You can mix and match all you like. Add a bit of spinach, raw eggs, change out the banana for mixed berries, etc. Carbs are important in the morning, but you still wanna get in the protein, hence the peanut butter, raw eggs, and protein powder. On paper, some of these ingredients on their own sound terrible, but a blender really helps hide some of the clashing tastes you might think of. Also, it will help you consume shit you normally wouldn't remember to eat such as spinach or flax. Also, having it all blended together makes the entire thing easier to digest. All of this is personal, so experiment with ingredients until you find a nice mix. I fill up a blender bottle with smoothie every morning and just sip on it from 7 am to about 9 am and then switch to water for the rest of the day.
DinosaurJones 12.22.17	So things to invest in: 1) A Blender (for smoothie reasons) 2) A Slow cooker (for laziness reasons) 3) A Waffle Iron (because waffles are the shit)
bloc 12.22.17	What else does a man need, really
cold 12.22.17	You da real MVP, bloc
bloc 12.22.17	Happy to help man. Let me know how it works out : )
SCREAM! 12.22.17	"2) A Slow cooker (for laziness reasons)" More expensive but that instant pot looks pretty dope. Slow cooker, pressure cooker, rice cooker, and more that I forget all in one
hal1ax 12.22.17	intermittent fasting works very well, especially in combination with ketogenic (high protein/fat , low carb) diets. i did it for like 5-6 months and then collapsed like a dying star because i get so fucking ravenous late at night lol
DinosaurJones 12.22.17	Hmm, I'll have to look into that instant pot, sounds super handy.
SCREAM! 12.22.17	I got my slow cooker a lil over a year ago before the instant pot was a thing so Imma stick with it but I'd def be looking into if I didn't have one
cold 12.22.17	I'm a little apprehensive about the raw eggs because of E. Coli and all, is it gross to blend up some boiled eggs in a smoothie sans the yolk? hahaha
hal1ax 12.22.17	i've been eating//drinking raw (fertilized) eggs for like 10 years bruh. just buy good quality eggs and not the fuckin sketchy $1.49 per carton kind
Relinquished 12.22.17	yea know what you're buying/eating that's another suggestion to your diet
SCREAM! 12.22.17	"not the fuckin sketchy $1.49 per carton kind" but those are my favourites
DinosaurJones 12.22.17	I'm sure they're fine for cooking.
DominionMM1 12.22.17	gotta get those quality eggs for poaching and sunny side up style
cold 12.22.17	So I suppose I should stop buying the $.38 cartons from Aldi then, ahahaha
DinosaurJones 12.22.17	I usually don't get fresh stuff from Aldi, occasionally produce, but meat and eggs and stuff I'll go to Wegmans or another store for. Aldi is still great though.
cold 12.22.17	Wegmans and Publix are pretty pricey most the time, but they always have some quality stuff. I mostly shop at Aldi, sometimes Lidl.
DinosaurJones 12.22.17	Yeh, that's why I do most of my shopping at Aldi. I just really like the quality of the meat at Wegmans. And their produce is always quality too.
cold 12.22.17	All of those are great grocery stores, really makes me wonder how shit like Food Lion and Kroger are still going. Just trashhhhhhh
SCREAM! 12.22.17	As a Canadian, you guys are basically speaking in a different language
ZombieToyDuck 12.22.17	aye wegmans is the shitttt
DinosaurJones 12.22.17	What are your food suppliers called?
DinosaurJones 12.22.17	Oh yeah, I totally shop at Publix when I visit my sister in Nashville, Kroger is just blech.
ZombieToyDuck 12.22.17	I now do shoprite cause its literally like 2 minutes from where I live but I make 10 minutes drives to wegmans solely for the meat and produce
DinosaurJones 12.22.17	Haha, I'm in the same boat, Zombie, there's a Weis within walking distance of my apartment, and I'll go there if I need to just grab something, but otherwise I make the drive out to Wegmans.
ZombieToyDuck 12.22.17	oh I knew that weis jive used to go there all the time. Are you legit in Scranton?
DinosaurJones 12.22.17	Naw, I'm in Nanticoke, a little south of Wilkes-Barre. Heading up to Scranton tonight though to go to a local show, and then to my parents' for Christmas.
ZombieToyDuck 12.22.17	Oh I know Nanticoke and nice man scranton's good stuff
bloc 12.22.17	Y'all niggaz shooting off grocery store names like it's cool lmao
DinosaurJones 12.22.17	Hey man, Wegmans IS cool.
bloc 12.22.17	It sounded like you guys were speaking a different language for real lol
neekafat 12.22.17	I really really need to stop drinking soda but I'm so goddamn thin still idk
hal1ax 12.22.17	haha yea cheap eggs are fine for cooking i think. u just don't wanna fuck with those bad boys in raw form
hal1ax 12.22.17	and tbh i love white rice too, it's not bad per se, i just would not eat it more than once a day and when u do eat it try to combine it with protein and fats. a lot of straight white rice just instantly converts to sugar and is just gonna force your body into huge insulin reactions so as to properly utilize all that sugar and that's not great tbh.
DinosaurJones 12.22.17	I never just eat straight white rice, I'll always have a protein with it, even if I just fry up some eggs and add veggies.
hal1ax 12.22.17	yea i love rice and eggs
SteakByrnes 12.22.17	Wegmans is cool af agreed
hal1ax 12.22.17	brown rice is a safer bet because it has fiber content to slow down metabolization but it takes like x3 times as long to cook lol. ain't got time for that shit
SteakByrnes 12.22.17	Also my giving up soda helped me drop 20 pounds and now I'm at a steady 185 and look healthier than ever so whatever helps you my dude
ChoccyPhilly 12.22.17	Nice that you're starting. One small bit of advice is to not think of it as a 'new years resolution' as they're mostly doomed to fail.
SCREAM! 12.22.17	"What are your food suppliers called?" Here in Ottawa mostly Metro, Loblaws, Sobeys and Farm Boy
supremejelly 12.22.17	When I was losing weight I was going to the gym alot, and then when I wanted to put on muscle I decided to follow a powerlifting-esque program called Ice Cream Fitness (https://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/jason-blaha-ice-cream-fitness-5x5-novice-workout) it's helped me alot, I can eat as much as I want now and be in much better shape than I was when I wasn't lifting and eating like shit.
bloc 12.22.17	Another good mind trick is to view weight loss by being the coach of another person trying to lose weight, rather than yourself.
mifzal 12.23.17	Weight lifting is the true form of exercise whether you are aiming for fat loss or muscle gain. I've come to a conclusion that cardio has more cons if used as the main focus of a weight loss program. anyone wanna debate?
hal1ax 12.23.17	it depends how you're defining "weight lifting." if by weight lifting you mean high rep-range, low rest period, anaerobic-aerobic hybrid type circuit training, then i agree with you. but if you mean low rep-range (10 or less), white muscle fiber type pure strength shit then i disagree. it's all about building those fast-twitch red type IIa muscle fibers, for weight loss anyway. for swoll u obviously are looking at building white type II and doing lower rep, higher weight stuff
hal1ax 12.23.17	so it's important for weight loss to make your lifts cardio intensive to develop red type IIa because they are like a hybrid of slow-twitch type I (distance runners, etc. the most oxidative type of fiber but without much power) and type IIb (white fast-twitch glycolytic, they burn through ATP the fastest producing the most power but can't utilize oxygen for shit), and these sort of hybrid muscles will not only put u in the best position to lose weight but they shred through fat whereas white doesn't draw as much glycol from fat as do fast-reds. try 50-30-20's on squat lol. maybe go 135 for 50 , rest for maybe 1-2min, 185 for 30, short rest, 225 for 10 -- this is perfect example of anaerobic-aerobic activity which is best for losing weight. i mean even on your off days after doing that shit your body will have to go into full aerobic, fat-shredding glycogen-conversion mode just in order to repair your muscles.
hal1ax 12.23.17	lol @ aiwaz
mifzal 12.23.17	Deadlifts + Squats = activates leptin Cardio = if glycogen stores are drained activates glucagon Cardio from my experience is more helpful with muscle gain then fat loss
mifzal 12.23.17	it is helpful in both areas but it also (high intense cardio) makes you look frail and age prematurely. Though there isn't anything i could point out as wrong in what you said
hal1ax 12.23.17	Straight cardio is aerobic and is absolutely not better for fat loss. Sprinters have less body fat than long distance runners I kid u not. Cardio builds slow-twitch muscles which don’t require ATP and don’t require dipping into adipose tissue storages to draw glycogen (metabolized as glucose). Higher intensity training combined with a concomitant cardio component is scientifically proven to be best for fat loss. Run an experiment keeping your diet constant and for 2 months jog 3 days a week and then next 2 months do high intensity high rep range low rest period lifting for 3 days a week and I guarantee u that u will lost more fat with lifting
hal1ax 12.23.17	oh wait u said cardio is less effective for fat loss? my bad, then we are in agreement here
hal1ax 12.23.17	well i mean it's also less effective for muscle gain but that's a weird argument cuz it's more efficient for building a certain type of muscle fiber i guess.. but yea i mean u also won't be building any fast-twitch fibers
hal1ax 12.23.17	and i think u might have the order of operations reverse. iirc glucagon is a neuropeptide released by the pancreas which then tells the liver to release glycogen storages which are then metabolized as glucose. been a while since i took bio tho lol
mifzal 12.23.17	"iirc glucagon is a neuropeptide released by the pancreas which then tells the liver to release glycogen storages" Correct! then the glycogen runs out and it moves to stored fat producing ketones??? (right word???), that would be like after another 123456789 hours.
hal1ax 12.23.17	ya once you burn through glycogen storages your body begins to draw glycol from fat tissue and converts that into glucose and then the cells in your liver convert fat into ketones (since ketogenic diets don't provide you with enough sugar to run on glucose alone) which have the ability to cross the blood-brain barrier and fuel your brain instead of // along with glucose.
mifzal 12.23.17	also glucagon function stop whenever you eat and food is still in the stomach. So long intervals between meals are desirable If going through a cardio dependent program. So called 6 short meals diet won't work on such a program, no wonder there are so many people burning out from "dieting"
hal1ax 12.23.17	yea definitely. glucagon is only produced during periods of fast right? immediately post-meal you're producing insulin to taper down and stabilize blood glucose levels
MrHarrison 12.23.17	Man, I went a day without coffee and I could barely function. But hey, if it's for health reasons I'd recommend cutting the energy drinks and switching to black coffee. Not bad for you at all!
mifzal 12.23.17	coffee/caffeine isn't BAD bad as if it's poison (not that I know of). It's a stimulant that forcibly push the brain to work, too much of it could disrupt the body's natural rhythm leading to some problems like insomnia.
Winesburgohio 12.23.17	caffeine is good but i swear to god i wouldn't be surprised if energy drinks are sold next to cigarettes in 20 years; the sheer amount of unhealthiness packed into a can is ridiculous. convert to coffee, which if black has health benefits and also tastes ambrosial. ONE OF US ONE OF US
ChoccyPhilly 12.23.17	Or green/black tea. Less caffeine content per serving and tastes better than black coffee
mifzal 12.23.17	plus there are other types of tea. You can even make tea out of citrus rind
hobblepot 12.23.17	I tried giving up coffee once, my depression spiralled out of control and I didn't leave my house for a week
SCREAM! 12.23.17	"Less caffeine content per serving and tastes better than black coffee" Disagreed
hal1ax 12.23.17	yea i love the taste of coffee
supremejelly 12.23.17	Piggybacking off of hal, just wanna agree that if you're going for fat loss then HIIT for cardio is awesome. I've been happy with my results doing HIIT. So I never do endurance, just HIIT and I just walk a shit ton
ChoccyPhilly 12.23.17	Can't beat lifting weights though for weight loss, but if the gym really isn't feasible, HIIT > steady state cardio.
supremejelly 12.23.17	Agreed, that's why I said HIIT for cardio. I like to have a mix, every other gym day is HIIT and the others are weight-training. But if I'm bulking I'll do HIIT once or twice a week tops
ChoccyPhilly 12.23.17	I hit the gym 4-5 times a week for weight training and play badmintont twice a week, which is all my cardio for the week.
supremejelly 12.23.17	I miss the days when I had the time and energy (and motivation) to go 6 times a week :(
Desdinova 12.23.17	Nice list men. Subscribed.
ChoccyPhilly 12.23.17	I'm gonna be bald and fat when I'm older, I know it, so might as well get as lean as possible whilst I'm in my twenties.
hal1ax 12.23.17	Bro HIIT 1-2x per week is the best ! @ Supreme
supremejelly 12.23.17	#HIITsquad
supremejelly 12.23.17	I went to my gym today at 315 after taking more pre than usual, and turns out they had holiday hours and closed at 3. Didn't know what to do with my energy so I cleaned my place with the speed of a madman. I checked their site and there were no holiday hours listed. Wish gyms would be better with spreading that info
hal1ax 12.24.17	man i've been scared of pre ever since i took a sample pack of the Hyde.. like 450mg of caffeine or some shit, it was absurd. i was like shaking in the gym, dizzy as fuck. nowadays i stick to the relatively low caff (100-150 range) , high blood circulation type pre-workouts.
Jots 12.24.17	just make your own pre tbh, only need a few ingredients
Relinquished 12.24.17	exactly
hal1ax 12.24.17	yea i should tbh. it's so expensive
supremejelly 12.24.17	Haha Hyde was my first pre. Got shivers, but had the best workout of my life. So I stick with that or N.O xplode (every pre sounds like they were named by a 13 year old boy)
DinosaurJones 12.24.17	Damn my mother making my favorite, terrible foods. Self-control is hard. On the other hand though, 0 energy drink consumption since I made this list, haha.
supremejelly 12.24.17	Nice dude!
UpwardSpiral 12.25.17	The best way to get disciplined/self-control is daily meditation. But yeah it's hard to keep it up
smaugman 12.25.17	TItle suggests you’re giving up healthy things lol
supremejelly 12.26.17	Gained 9 pounds from this weekend's holiday eating/drinking..obviously a ton of water weight and blah blah but I think that's a new record for me :)
DinosaurJones 12.26.17	Dang. I actually did pretty well, all things considered. I don't drink alcohol anyways, so that's never been a problem, but I really tried to avoid all desserts and overeating. Didn't go walking as much as I should have though.
Spluger 12.26.17	Im gunna give it 2 weeks before I look at the scale cus I just don't need that in my life currently.
supremejelly 12.26.17	I'm good during weeks, worse on weekends cause of drinking, and holidays I just decide to fuck myself up
bloc 12.26.17	Best pre-workout: one banana
hal1ax 12.26.17	unless u are hypoglycemic lol (like me)
Kalopsia 12.26.17	don't eat 5 bananas at one time unless you want diarrhea. um.. oh i heard from someone that totally isn't me
Dinosaur 12.26.17	Too much good food this time of year.
sixdegrees 12.26.17	drink too much carrot juice and you will turn orange and die
Storm In A Teacup 03.16.18	hope its continued well. i'm also trying to be healthier but i've picked up coffee along the way lol. i love it. a year ago i drank 2 to 3 to 4 liters of dr pepper or coke a day and now i have 40 to 70 ounces of water a day and 2 cups of coffee
mifzal 03.16.18	We don't want to face the bitter truth.......going cold turkey has always been the right.
Storm In A Teacup 03.16.18	what
zakalwe 03.16.18	4ltrs of coke a day? Fucking hell.
DoofusWainwright 03.16.18	4ltrs of coke a year is still too much, 4 ltrs a day is a cry for help
DoofusWainwright 03.16.18	the trick is don't drink calories at home - just drink water and the occasional tea. no juices, they aren't healthy, eat an orange if you want some juice. No milk, obviously that shit isn't healthy either, worried about calcium eat some broccoli or spinach, better sources of calcium. Or just have a small amount of cream or cheese as part of a meal. Only drink alcohol outside your home (other than when you have a party or similar). If you have a homemade smoothie - congratulation, that's a meal, not a drink to go with a meal. Lost a couple of stone applying these principles.
hal1ax 03.16.18	consuming 4 liters of soda a day is probably on par with heroin in terms of harmfulness
tommygun 03.16.18	smh at all the broscience itt
hal1ax 03.16.18	biochemistry is bro science? or physiology ? or both?
tommygun 03.16.18	nah man your posts are legit :]
hal1ax 03.16.18	:kiss:
TheSpaceMan 03.16.18	consuming 4 liters of soda a day is 10000% worse than non lethal doses of heroin like how can your gut even fit all that?
hal1ax 03.16.18	haha yea i was more comparing both lifestyles. if we are going to exclude prospects of HIV and pernicious infections and the like, then yea the soda is much worse in terms of general health.
TheSpaceMan 03.16.18	im not advocating either at all but like holy fuck i'm like scared just thinking about it. i'm lucky in that i fucking hate soda
hal1ax 03.16.18	i was involved in a couple studies which sought to expound upon effects and workings of high fructose corn syrup relative to just general sucrose while i was in undergrad... and you should absolutely be terrified of soda haha. it actually doesn't spike blood glucose levels as drastically as sucrose but it promotes insulin resistance, ie type II diabetes
TheSpaceMan 03.16.18	i think its the syrup that bothers me. its so thick, i feel it clogging my plumbing. but yea the long term effects surely dont help. i'm content with water/seltzer, just so much more refreshing
DinosaurJones 03.16.18	Damn. Yeah, well my life has been off track for most of this year thus far, I haven't been able to get into the gym like I've wanted to (excuses, excuses). But I've at least really stuck to my guns on giving up energy drinks and soda (soda for the most part). I haven't had an energy drink since I first posted this list, and I really only have soda when I go out to eat, and not even all the time then. I usually just drink water or tea, occasionally lemonade (homemade). Hopefully after I move this weekend and now that I have a car again, I can get into the gym.
zakalwe 03.16.18	It’s the constant grazing on shit that whacks on the wood. 3 meals a day. I’ve lost 2 and a half stone in a year.
DinosaurJones 03.16.18	Yeh, I do that too, Zak. I've just been holding steady. I think the constant exercise might tip me over the edge. That said, I should probably go to the goddamn doctor because I feel perpetually exhausted and can't seem to lose weight and probably have pre-diabetes or type II. If I don't have those things, then I guess I'm just an unhealthy fuck and need to take another look at my lifestyle.
guitarded_chuck 03.16.18	wait so people are actually saying drinking diet coke is worse than heroin itt i need to retire from the internet man i cant deal anymore unless its sarcasm and im being autistic
guitarded_chuck 03.16.18	"can't seem to lose weight" eat less, move more
DinosaurJones 03.16.18	Dat Aspartame, bro.
JustJoe. 03.16.18	I would specify in the list title that you're giving up caffeine & aspiring to do healthier things. It reads as though you're giving up both caffeine & also giving up healthy things. These are minor gripes, the list is well-written & have a thoroughly deserved pos!
DinosaurJones 03.16.18	You're not wrong.
JustJoe. 03.16.18	😁
JustJoe. 03.16.18	I was just joshing, Dino! You didn't actually have to change it!
DinosaurJones 03.16.18	Well, you're not the first person to mention it, haha. I want the message to be clear. I AM TRYING BE A MORE HEALTHY PERSON. I think I'm only semi-successful thus far. Still workin' on it.
Spacesh1p 03.16.18	Better to try and not totally hit your goals than to give up entirely. Keep it up dude.
DinosaurJones 03.16.18	SHOOT FOR THE MOON EVEN IF YOU MISS YOU'LL LAND IN THE STARS But either way, you'll suffocate in the cold, harsh vacuum of space. Whoops.
DoofusWainwright 03.16.18	As you get older losing weight is 90% calorie intake - moving more, more walking, yes it is good for various reasons but it won't see the fat burn off in a flash. Sad truth - it's the calories. You have to eat less. Took me years to learn not to eat and drink like my teenage self. In your twenties you play sport twice a week and go to the gym and you can just about keep things in check. Do that in your thirties and you still become a chubster. Got a buddy who refuses to believe this, still eats all day and can't understand why as he's still exercising the same as he has for the last twenty years.
DinosaurJones 03.16.18	Ugh, that's unfortunate, as I've always been a chubby guy, so that means if I don't get my shit together soon, it will only get worse, as I'm edging ever closer to my 30s quite quickly.
JustJoe. 03.16.18	Same, same. Trying to be healthier is not so easy. Slowly but surely, I would say, from trial & error. You want to not simply /be/ healthy. Ideally developing healthier habits overall is how it'll stick in the long run. But, I'm sure you knew that already!
guitarded_chuck 03.16.18	"As you get older losing weight is 90% calorie intake" its 100% caloric intake at any age the law of conservation of energy applies to human caloric intake vs expenditure
DoofusWainwright 03.16.18	chuck - you can alter expenditure...I'm just saying increasing 'expenditure' gets harder and harder for whatever reasons. Metabolism or how you process your energy and fat reserves I don't know. Something changes...and hits you like a truck lol
guitarded_chuck 03.16.18	ye gotta stay active i workout 6x a week if only so i can keep the inner fat kid alive as i near 30 yet still look pretty
DoofusWainwright 03.16.18	I'm 6'4 and about as trim now as I've been since I was a teenager. I have put on a little bit of muscle recently so maybe not as light as a year ago. Early to mid twenties I bulked up in the gym, thick neck, doing a lot of free weights and playing football twice a week (still would have been consuming 3000-3500 calories a day, esp with factoring drinking 3 or 4 times a week. I'd think nothing of having 10 pints of beer a night). Mid to late twenties got lazy and for the first time in my life realised I could get fat and went up two waist sizes. Still went to the gym but less exercise, quit football, still consuming over 3000 calories a day on average. Found it hard to get my weight totally back to what it was until I started trying to eat less (closer to 2000 calories a day than 3000 calories now). I only do two or three bits of real exercise exertion a week, like a gym session or run, so the least I've done since I was at school. So really exercise I don;'t think has a massive impact on weight. Good for overall health though.
guitarded_chuck 03.16.18	good for you i never took fitness seriously until my early twenties, was more a punk/rebel type than a jock didnt give af, it's like my main deal at this point tho the booze is a big one, as much as id like to drink more i just cant mix regular fitness and drinking personally, between the lack of energy and extra weight. i'll treat myself to like 1-3 drinks on friday or saturday evening once a week if that
DinosaurJones 03.16.18	I'm lucky (I think?) in that drinking has never appealed to me for multiple reasons. Otherwise I'd probably have even more weight. 1. I just generally don't like the taste of alcohol. 2. I'm Chinese and I have Alcohol Flush reaction, which makes me physically uncomfortable when I drink. 3. I don't trust myself, so I don't ever want to get drunk.
DoofusWainwright 03.16.18	Yeah, booze is a real killer for fitness and weight control. I probably only have four or five drinks a week on average now. I still can't resist the occasional eight pint pub crawl every few months though.
DoofusWainwright 03.16.18	Dino - drinking is the best of times and the worst of times is how I'd sum it up. If you hate unpredictability and wild extremes in your life you're not missing anything skipping it. I reach a point every now and again I just quit it for 6 weeks because the act of drinking just becomes fucking tiresome and the convention of pressure to conform to drinking all the time just results in me thinking 'I'll quit for a while'
JustJoe. 03.16.18	I think it depends. For some people, that boost exercise gives to their metabolism makes a world of difference. For me, I find that it's just easier to eat more sensibly when I'm exercising regularly. Unhealthy habits definitely weigh me down significantly--no pun intended.
supremejelly 03.16.18	My friend said hard apple cider is good for her because it's made out of apples. :(
DinosaurJones 03.16.18	IT'S FRUIT. FRUIT IS GOOD FOR YOU. I DON'T SEE THE PROBLEM.
Sinternet 03.16.18	For the last few years i've constantly teetered between underweight and slightly overweight (which is really bad - losing and gaining weight in rapid succession is not good for you at all) but in the last couple of months i've managed to find a nice middle ground. By far the biggest factor in me being healthy is swimming six times a week. On average I do around 60 lengths of 25 metres (takes about 45 minutes) - swimming is great because it exercises every muscle group at once rather than doing specific work for each group. The other huge thing for me was drinking a lot more water - i used to sit at home and just drink Pepsi Max all day or a rum and coke but forcing myself to drink at least 2.5 litres of water each day has not only made me feel less lazy but also made it so when I do drink soda (which I still do regularly) it tastes sweeter, where as before my body had got so used to it I barely tasted anything. Another thing I did was to start drinking herbal teas, especially green tea blends, a lot more again and they do a great job of making you feel cleaner and healthier - if you don't like the taste though you can get supplements with the important stuff in. What I will say though is to allow yourself to have treats. I always take Saturday off to eat whatever and however much I like plus one other day a week to factor in for going out and such. To put this into context I was 5'11" and 195lbs in January, now I'm 170lbs. FeelsGoodMan.jpg
guitarded_chuck 03.16.18	glad youre off the soda bro that shits worse than heroin Kappa srs tho gj, swimming rules wish i had time to add that into the routine too ive added in cardio and yoga to my routine the past year though as opposed to just straight weight lifting, feel overall more healthy and energetic, dropped some body fat %
DominionMM1 03.16.18	swimming rules. not only does it hit a ton of muscle groups it is also super low impact. i really don't swim enough.
guitarded_chuck 03.16.18	yeah thats the problem with weight lifting, high impact, im basically constantly dealing with some sort of joint issue, right now my left shoulder is a bit fucked
Prancer 03.16.18	I've never had an alcoholic beverage. Am I an alien?
DominionMM1 03.16.18	yeah you're a fuckin weirdo
MO 03.16.18	"yeah thats the problem with weight lifting, high impact, im basically constantly dealing with some sort of joint issue, right now my left shoulder is a bit fucked" damn that sucks. I've been lifting for over 10 years and don't have any sore joints or problems. knock on wood
DoofusWainwright 03.16.18	Yeah I go swimming and do some bikram yoga when I can afford it - recommend both, undo the bad damage running and gym work with, eh, less than perfect stretching regimes, do to me
zakalwe 03.16.18	Doesn’t dig the who, does bikram yoga. Says a lot.
DinosaurJones 03.16.18	What. I thought you two were bosom buddies.
Drifter 03.16.18	What I've learned form this thread is me and sint are the same size/height. Neat.
DoofusWainwright 03.16.18	Bikram yoga is way more m/ than The Who Give you five minutes before puke or collapse :D
mrdogthrow 03.16.18	Ive had an ongoing caffeine addiction going on for awhile now. least im not drinking soda
DinosaurJones 03.16.18	Gotta drink that H2O. It's a gratifying feeling when your piss comes out completely clear. It's also irritating because I have to get up and piss every 20 minutes due to the copious amount of water I'm consuming and the fact that I apparently have a bladder the size of a goddamn walnut.
SteakByrnes 03.16.18	Yea water goes through me so quick, shit is annoying
bloc 03.16.18	Lol true, in the 8 h of work I get up to pee at least 7 or 8 times. Everyday. Also, I really wanna start jump roping tbh
DinosaurJones 03.16.18	I fucking fell during a show last night trying to pick up my tuner. I just lost my balance while I was crouched and toppled, right in front of anyone. Shit was embarrassing as hell. Luckily, I didn't drop my guitar. What I'm trying to get at is if I lose my balance just trying to pick something up, I'd probably end up somehow hanging myself if I tried jump roping.
bloc 03.16.18	It takes a lot of practice for sure, but seeing guys and gals do it for minutes in a row without skipping a beat is pretty cool. Plus, I hear it is an excellent calorie burner.
JustJoe. 03.16.18	Yes bloc. Jump Rope. It's the goods.
JustJoe. 03.16.18	I've legitimately gone like 45+ minutes without stopping. Honestly once you get into that zone, it's like breathing. A good music playlist doesn't hurt either in terms of setting a pace.
SteakByrnes 03.16.18	I always fuck up when jump roping for too long
bloc 03.16.18	Yeah good to hear man, I'll start doing it outdoors once the weather gets a bit milder
JustJoe. 03.16.18	Awesome & good luck to you, sir.
bloc 03.16.18	Thank you sir, I appreciate it
Drifter 03.16.18	"I fucking fell during a show last night trying to pick up my tuner. I just lost my balance while I was crouched and toppled, right in front of anyone. Shit was embarrassing as hell. Luckily, I didn't drop my guitar." L
hal1ax 03.16.18	"wait so people are actually saying drinking diet coke is worse than heroin itt" what are u talking about? no one said diet soda... we were talking about regular soda.. and it was specifically about 4 liters of regular soda a day. idk how u came to the conclusion we were comparing a fuckin diet coke to heroin
hal1ax 03.16.18	also it's about x50 more complicated than being 100% about calorie intake
DinosaurJones 03.16.18	Drifter, it was embarrassing, but I have no pride, so it really wasn't that bad. Besides, our stage banter is always on point, so it provided some good material.
Drifter 03.16.18	I'm sorry Dino I just like saying L That sucks 😩
DinosaurJones 03.16.18	I almost took off my pants since I figured it couldn't get any worse from there, but nobody needed to see that.
TheSpaceMan 03.16.18	"wait so people are actually saying drinking diet coke is worse than heroin itt" Do you even read
TheSpaceMan 03.16.18	Hal1 it is more complicated obv but in a nutshell yea it really is about simple thermodynamics. If you don't provide energy in the system in the form of PE of carbons, your body burns what you got. People who say they can't loose weight thru calorie monitoring are full of shit
TheSpaceMan 03.16.18	Literally
Deathconscious 03.16.18	"I drink a Monster at work every morning." That is horrific, good for you.
unclereich 03.16.18	Ive never had an energy drink or coffee before being as hyper as i naturally am id probably have a heart attack. Sugary drinks are gross imo but i do like a nice diet pepsi. I heard its very bad for you but seeing as i have no other vices i think i can handle the side effects lol.
Storm In A Teacup 03.17.18	i wonder if i can undo the damage that soda has done
Storm In A Teacup 03.17.18	"drinking 4 liters a day is a cry for help" yes
DoofusWainwright 03.17.18	Diet coke tastes awful
TheSpaceMan 03.17.18	Coke tastes awful but yeah diet coke is like an even more not good tasting version Storm glad you're managing it now. Respect
Storm In A Teacup 03.17.18	im even learning how to drink coffee with barely any creamer. i already didn't use sugar. but at work i pour two or three ounces of hot chocolate in a 20 ounce coffee and it's delicious, and free!
DoofusWainwright 03.17.18	yeah, coke is something I'll occasionally enjoy - anything with artificial sweeteners just tastes funky to me. I rumble it straight away, any product, "this has artificial sweeteners in it". Hate the stuff, and most of them are trash for your health too. Just everyone eat less sugar, don't substitute sugar.
bloc 03.17.18	I drink coke about once or twice a year, and boy that shit hits the spot not gonna lie
hal1ax 03.17.18	space i know that is the gist of it, i am just opposed to the reductive vacuous ass "it is 100% like this." i would say it's 80% calorie intake / expenditure , 10% food composition / utilization within the body, 10% metabolic function... and even that is super reductive but the aforementioned absolutist statement is fcking idiotic
TheSpaceMan 03.17.18	Well yea nothing is absolute other than the fact that I'm a G. Agree with what you're saying
hal1ax 03.17.18	😎
unclereich 03.17.18	Idk ive always hated coke and pepsi but loved the diet alternative i know im in the minority. I also know theyre very bad for you but seeing as i dont eat poorly or do drugs idc. +1 for dr pepper thats the best soda but 40 g of sugar in a can is unacceptable and im underweight lol
TheSpaceMan 03.17.18	They're more than okay in moderation, honestly your nutritional intake is more important than avoiding soda all together. It was the 4 liters thing that made me feel nervous lol