sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | let the battles begi! |
Meridiu5
01.16.19 | democrat vote gets split again between beto and another fake minority and orange man wins |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | oh i forgot about liz warren |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | all the bigwig corporate fucks are sayin beto gonna run with biden |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | wish bernie had like a son or some shit mofo be 79 in 2020 |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | trump is gonna crush these milquetoast dems tbh |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | but keyblade he served mcdonalds! at the big house! he's got no chance he's deplorable :D |
Snake.
01.16.19 | no more presidents 2020 |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | straight up the dems are fools man they gonna hand this shit to the mofo |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | im votin tulsi but i mean shes got no chance to even win the primary |
DungeonBoy
01.16.19 | tbh, I'd eat a Big Mac and some nuggets in the White House given the opportunity. I guess it's a slap in the face to some, but I'd be all over that. |
BerryGarlicia
01.16.19 | Dave Mustaine |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | the gym class boys worked very hard and all they got was a baconator!
sounds great tbh |
DarkSideOfLucca
01.16.19 | Kanye 2020 |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | can we be serious? |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | kanye is running in 2024 |
McTime50
01.16.19 | I don’t really want it.
But a trump relection is like a 50/50 chance, minimum. |
DungeonBoy
01.16.19 | Perhaps a bigger celebrity than Trump would be a good alternative. Fight fire with fire |
WatchItExplode
01.16.19 | How about George Stephanopolous? |
widowslaugh123
01.16.19 | Not the biggest Bernie Sanders guy but I’ll probably vote for him |
Kalopsia
01.16.19 | Putin |
McTime50
01.16.19 | Can I get a quick run down of Beto, been hearing about him a bit |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | obama-lite corporate dem. ran on the tried and tested 'im not [insert republican opponent here]' platform |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | thats pretty much all the dems got man |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | theyre unwilling to go toe to toe on policy cause they largely govern like fuckin republicans. so it ends up bein "x is racist, we need more female drone strikes, etc" |
heck
01.16.19 | how long before this thread goes bad I wonder |
BallsToTheWall
01.16.19 | Becky Lynch. The Man 2020! |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | 'theyre unwilling to go toe to toe on policy cause they largely govern like fuckin republicans. so it ends up bein "x is racist, we need more female drone strikes, etc"'
lol exactly. trump completely neutralized that angle, and it's funny that they still think it's gonna work |
Divaman
01.16.19 | Sweet Meteor of Death |
WatchItExplode
01.16.19 | election day 2020 may in fact be the singularity |
budgie
01.16.19 | elizabeth warren for me |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | @keyblade tbf the entire system would need a fuckin makeover if the dems actually represented the left so the best they can do is fight for more women and gay people in wall street board rooms |
Meridiu5
01.16.19 | Can I get a quick run down of Beto
He ran as senator of Texas but lost to Ted Cruz. He's Obama but he pretends to be mexican instead of black |
AnimalsAsSummit
01.16.19 | trump |
NOTINTHEFACE
01.16.19 | If I could handpick someone to run against Trump, it would be Hakeem Jeffries. But he's a reasonable moderate so he stands zero chance of being nominated in this political climate. |
OwMySnauze
01.16.19 | Trump [10000000000] |
Sinternet
01.16.19 | time for AOC |
butcherboy
01.16.19 | RuPaul.. |
Papa Universe
01.16.19 | is that Rand Paul's brother? |
JoeTex
01.16.19 | Amy Klobuchar |
NastyCrab
01.16.19 | "time for AOC"
legally too young to be prez my dog |
Sinternet
01.16.19 | that aint gonna stop her
sidenote though thats a dumb af rule |
Meridiu5
01.16.19 | sidenote though thats a dumb af rule
its a great rule. if anything they should raise the age to 45. 35 was old af in 1776 |
NastyCrab
01.16.19 | It seems arbitrary but I personally would prefer candidates have at least a decade or so of gov't experience under their belts. Of course, we elected a 70-year old reality tv star with a personality disorder so actually who gives a fuck anymore |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | :D |
Meridiu5
01.16.19 | political experience is a poor predictor of results. the only quality shown to always help is past military service |
Sinternet
01.16.19 | it's incredibly alienating to younger voters though. culture is created and progressed by the young and when you have people who are outside of/don't understand the modern zeitgeist it breeds alienation, meaning younger people are overwhelmingly underrepresented in the decisions tha affect them
i do of course understand the importance of political experience, so maybe a blanket rule such as having to have at least 5 years of governemental experience regardless of age would make for a more sensible condition to the rule |
Kalopsia
01.16.19 | ^sinternet gets it |
hobblepot
01.16.19 | so long as ya'll vote for someone who stops putting kids in cages and blowing syrians up for no good reason, I'll be proud, but as it stands, the US is laughable |
DungeonBoy
01.16.19 | "younger people are overwhelmingly underrepresented in the decisions that affect them"
this is true, but when the voter turnout for folks 30 and under is less than half, why would you cater to their needs. Are they not voting because they don't feel represented, or are they not represented because they aren't voting? |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | when ur 2 options are 2 corporate lackeys who aren't gonna do anything to improve ur life, do u really name them for not turning up? |
hobblepot
01.16.19 | "Are they not voting because they don't feel represented, or are they not represented because they aren't voting?"
I'm not american, but I am under 30, voting turnout for people in my age bracket here is also pretty low, and a lot of it here is to do with education. Most people I know don't understand how politics work, and so they don't vote because they see it as pointless. A lot of people under 30 are also under the impression that their vote doesn't mean anything, my girlfriend was shocked to discover the policies of the current UK govt, before she met me she didn't know who did what and her parents didn't care either. I think a lot of it has to do with upbringing and education, if it was made clearer what the options were and who stands for what, and parents encouraged their children to vote, more under 30's would be voting |
JoeTex
01.16.19 | hard to imagine trump getting re elected. hil crushed him in the popular vote and he's been the laughing stock on a day to day basis since he's been in 'office'. |
TheClansman95
01.16.19 | Trump is going to get re elected IMO |
budgie
01.16.19 | clansman don't you live in northern italy :P |
JoeTex
01.16.19 | free hamberders |
zakalwe
01.16.19 | “it's incredibly alienating to younger voters though. culture is created and progressed by the young and when you have people who are outside of/don't understand the modern zeitgeist it breeds alienation, meaning younger people are overwhelmingly underrepresented in the decisions tha affect them”
Self absorbed fucking brat.
Culture is born of influence, situation, representation, circumstance.
You know that thing you play on, the pieces you read, the inspirational things you’ve listened to and seen and felt and watched.
That ain’t created by youth pal. |
DominionMM1
01.16.19 | love ya zak |
hobblepot
01.16.19 | zakalwe you couldn't be more out of touch if you were completely paralysed, take a seat old man |
zakalwe
01.16.19 | I’m actually CEO of a marketing corp mate. Finger right on the fucking pulse son.
Love ya dom |
JWT155
01.16.19 | The Democrats will be making a dreadful mistake of running an ultra progressive ticket to combat Trump.
They need to run as the party of bringing America back to normal, with stability and predictability, assuring Americans then won't need to fear turning on the news everyday because their Presidential candidate will be boring and play by the rules.
Unfortunatelly the Democrats always do the opposite of what they should do and they'll run some outspoken leftist candidate that will only polarize the country more and mobilize the right to vote for Trump yet again.
If the last election showed us anything it's that Trump isn't our President because people wanted him, it's because they didn't want Hillary. The Democrats can't afford to run an unlikeable candidate to moderates and persuadable conservatives. |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | ^ this post is so contradictory and just...off. democrats are gonna run on the same boring centrist platform as ever and that's why they're going to lose
ppl voted for trump because they were fed up with the status quo, and u think the solution is more status quo? lol |
hobblepot
01.16.19 | "I’m actually CEO of a marketing corp mate"
yeah right |
Trebor.
01.16.19 | but hilary was exactly what you're describing as a moderate, and most polls show that if bernie had won the primary he would have won the general election and he's a leftist |
JWT155
01.16.19 | "^ this post is so contradictory and just...off. democrats are gonna run on the same boring centrist platform as ever and that's why they're going to lose
ppl voted for trump because they were fed up with the status quo, and u think the solution is more status quo? lol"
What makes you think this time around will be centrist for the left? I think the Bernie camp will come out even more energized and a candidate like Elizabeth Warren will do well during the primaries.
And plenty of people voted for Trump because they disliked Hillary: between PA and MI alone the states swung Trump's way with voters who voted twice for Obama choosing to vote for Trump, and it was due to their dislike of Hillary. |
JWT155
01.16.19 | "but hilary was exactly what you're describing as a moderate, and most polls show that if bernie had won the primary he would have won the general election and he's a leftist"
Exactly, and with people like AOC and Tlaib winning elections it's clear that it's a winning strategy in the short term for Democrats. Unfortunately, while those candidates poll well with Democrats they do abysmal with moderates.
I think a ticket with Biden on the front and a very progressive running partner would bode well, like Biden Warren, Biden Sanders, etc. |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | well yeah, they disliked they because she was a centrist corporate shill with a thirst for war, and ur solution is to run another one of those? unless I'm misunderstanding u and ur talking about the Bernie camp as u put it |
JWT155
01.16.19 | Biden is not Hillary, Biden has plenty of credibility with blue collar workers and voters Hillary lost that Obama won. Biden at the top of the ticket takes PA and MI easilly. I think Bernie would beat Trump, but very few other progressives could oull that feat because only a genuine progressive candidate with integrity can win that battle, and a candidate like Warren reeks of being disingenious and politically correct. |
Meridiu5
01.16.19 | Democrats only running old white men
SAD! |
JWT155
01.16.19 | Hillary running again would be a disaster.
They should be thankful Trump has been so scandalous, because one of the greatest political scandals on a massive scale recently is how the DNC outright dideverything in their power to rig their primary process and funding to benefit Hillary. Think about that, the DNC, which is set up to reward the candidates voters side with, was biasedly essentially choosing their candidate in advance and did everything in their power to push her towards the nomination. That can't happen again and frankly voters shouldn't have faith in the DNC to be a fair nuetral party in this process yet. |
BlazinBlitzer
01.16.19 | Donald Trump is probably gonna run, but I'm not exactly sure. |
Dissonant
01.16.19 | Yeah, really hope Hillary won't run again after the previous travesty.. |
Dissonant
01.16.19 | Serj tankian 2020 |
budgie
01.16.19 | "a candidate like Warren reeks of being disingenious and politically correct."
explain yourself |
JWT155
01.16.19 | Have you seen her most recent video where she gets a beer?! It's one of the cringiest "Look at me, I'm just one of you!" moments I've seen in a while. Politics is like dating, you're trying to act cool and be open but also being genuine, and even the tiniest bit of trying too hard can turn off anyone. Warren is trying way too hard and I think it's only going to get worse when her campaign fully takes off. I think her trying to be likeable will be on par with Hillary's hilarious attepmts to come across as one of the people. Plus her whole Native American background story has completely blown up in her face.
The beer video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWehvtOL_VI |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | Honestly considering who the Dem's have lined up I might just vote Trump cause all of them suck. That said if the Repub's or a Third Party give me a candidate I can appreciate I'll vote for them. |
JWT155
01.16.19 | As long as a reasonable Democrat runs (like Biden), I think Romney should then run against Trump and then as a 3rd Party. |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | another example is Kamala Harris's recent Spotify playlist video, shit is so calculated and wack |
JWT155
01.16.19 | Pardon my french, by Kamala Harris just comes across as a complete bitch. Watching the Kavanaugh hearings and her asking him questions/going back really showed her true colors.
And to make myself sound fair I think a Democratic Senator like Amy Klobuchar is a class act and high integrity. |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | Romney is a flip-flopping yagamuffin. Hell no. Biden's interesting but I don't need or want Obama 2.0
I'm still a Conservative, but I will vote Democrat depending on who it is. |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | Also yes, Kamala Harris is a bitch. |
JWT155
01.16.19 | I mean I'll give it to Kamala Harris, she's smart, ambitious, strong, she just also seems very smug, arrogant and very mcuh acts like she always has her mind made up instead of listening to those on the other aisle or who think differently. |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | Harris' true colours was her time as AG, not aggressively questioning an overgrown frat boy |
budgie
01.16.19 | " Warren is trying way too hard and I think it's only going to get worse when her campaign fully takes off." a fair concern, i don't share it though. the beer video doesn't seem strange to me at all, frankly. the native american issue i hoped is really only an issue for people who would be voting for trump anyway. what i really meant in my quote of you was why you quickly describe her as PC, when she's always come off as frank and realistic
damn i really hope she gets the office though! |
RogueNine
01.16.19 | Ugh, we're just going to get trash again. |
butt.
01.16.19 | This is the way I see it:
Democrats will vote for whoever runs on the democrat bill, because Trump is extremely hated.
Some people who originally voted Trump now regret it or only did it because they hated Hillary. Putting forth a better candidate than Hillary is ridiculously easy, because it could be almost literally anyone.
Then you have people who vote Trump because they'll vote red no matter what.
So yeah I'm feeling pretty hopeful that orange man disappears, especially with the political suicide that this shutdown has become. |
JWT155
01.16.19 | I think she can if she doesn't try too hard, but I think she's incapable of that self control. |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | Straight up though if John Kasich runs against Trump I'll vote Kasich in a heartbeat. |
butt.
01.16.19 | Beto is cool, but he needs to become more decisive on key issues and announce his bid in the next couple weeks or it'll be too late.
Biden is a logical choice because name recognition and not too polarizing, but he's also old af.
Bernie...same thing as above (except somewhat polarizing).
We've seen Beto's insane fundraising and campaigning abilities, so if I had to vote right now I'd vote Beto. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.16.19 | Orange man bad |
JWT155
01.16.19 | "Democrats will vote for whoever runs on the democrat bill, because Trump is extremely hated.
Some people who originally voted Trump now regret it or only did it because they hated Hillary. Putting forth a better candidate than Hillary is ridiculously easy, because it could be almost literally anyone. "
Agreed, and that's why I think the Democrats run someone like Biden. Run someone who can tell a shellshocked America that Trump willbe gone soon, we can go back to normal, someone with experience and integrity is ready to right the ship, vote for me, yadda yadda yadda.
Running a progressive candidate will only tap into the base that flipped from Obama to Trump and want consistency, not someone who claims to be a socialist, or wants universal healthcare, etc. |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | I'd also think of voting for Tulsi Gabbard because she'll bring back Glass-Steagle. IDK if her and Kasich are going to run though so for now I'm going to vote Trump unless either of those two run. |
sixdegrees
01.16.19 | possible second run by Deez Nuts? |
TheSpirit
01.16.19 | I would love for Beto to run.
I agree with JWT on Warren, she seems very disingenuous.
Fuck Trump, and fuck Hilary. |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | There's no way Hillary will run again right?
RIGHT!? |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | only in America is universal healthcare considered a radical idea lol |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | 'vote for me and you'll never have to worry about medical bankruptcy' is alienating to voters apparently |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | I vote for nukes all over the globe. |
rabidfish
01.16.19 | only in America is universal healthcare considered a radical idea lol [2]
how do poor people survive lol |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | The problem isn't "Universal Healthcare" it's "Helathcare for some at the expense of others". Obamacare helped a lot of people but also screwed over others. There were many people in my family whose premiums skyrocketed due to the extra costs. "Universal Healthcare" hasn't really been done properly in America yet. |
DamnVanne
01.16.19 | Y’all ready for Donald & Hillary Season 2? |
JWT155
01.16.19 | A lot of Americans are hurting, a majority are working and surviving pay check to pay check. At current wages many people would not be able to get by with an additional and considerable tax applied to their income. Also the idea of universal healthcare on a national level is terrifyingly impossible, a universal healthcare at this scale has never been attempted and if anything should be done at the state level. The fact the VA hospitals are some of the worst in the country isn't a great selling point that the government should take a larger role in healthcare. |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | ^This |
ArsMoriendi
01.16.19 | Kirsten Gillibrand recently said she's running
Beto seems like the popular choice overall though |
widowslaugh123
01.16.19 | I somewhat like Beto but he couldn’t even beat ted Cruz in a senate race. I know it’s texas and all but still if he can’t beat Cruz he definitely can’t beat trump |
unclereich
01.16.19 | trump by a landslide tbh |
Sinternet
01.16.19 | beto is awful, no-one needs another corporatist center right dem whose only redeeming quality is them not having an (R) next to their name |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | 'it's never been done before' is a poor argument against doing something. it's kind of the point
also the increase in taxes would be offset by the savings in insurance for the average person |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | hey beto played in a rock band once ok |
Sinternet
01.16.19 | anyone who is against a universal healthcare system is actually legitimately insane its pretty sad. |
Sinternet
01.16.19 | more punks like jello less punks like beto |
JoeTex
01.16.19 | booker |
LelandAB
01.16.19 | only in America is universal healthcare considered a radical idea lol [3456] |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | "anyone who is against a universal healthcare system is actually legitimately insane its pretty sad."
As I said. I'm not against Universal Healthcare. I'm against attempts at Universal Healthcare that fuck over other segments of the US population. |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | the problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | Thinking Socialism works lol |
LelandAB
01.16.19 | People think we soon as we start helping those in need, that we're sliding towards communism. |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | > Thinking Socialism works lol
THAT WASN'T REAL SOCIALISM YOU TOXICHITLERFASCISTINCELNAZI!!!!111 |
JoeTex
01.16.19 | The Jungle, great book. |
sixdegrees
01.16.19 | doesnt take them long to show their true colors |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | just say u don't wanna pay more taxes lol |
RogueNine
01.16.19 | This is approximately the time that guitarded_chuck shows up. |
DungeonBoy
01.16.19 | [2] proud of you guys for being surprisingly more mild-mannered than usual |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | when did pit become fb grampa tier |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | I don't want to pay more taxes. Especially if they're going to some Chicago crackwhore for the sole purpose of keeping her alive long enough to produce one more hopeless, starving child that needs even more tax money to live before his crackwhore mother finally overdoses. |
sixdegrees
01.16.19 | think chuck went back to his safe space at the joe rogan official discord |
diamondsmile
01.16.19 | Destroying the rainforest to own the libs xD |
TheClansman95
01.16.19 | yos Budgie, I was just making a forecast! |
Trophycase
01.16.19 | My bet is that the Democrats repeat their mistakes of nominating an incomprehensively boring candidate. |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | "I don't want to pay more taxes. Especially if they're going to some Chicago crackwhore for the sole purpose of keeping her alive long enough to produce one more hopeless, starving child that needs even more tax money to live before his crackwhore mother finally overdoses."
weren't u an addict urself? tf |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | Only thing I'm addicted to is metal and Whataburger. |
StrikeOfTheBeast
01.16.19 | Oprah |
JWT155
01.16.19 | "'it's never been done before' is a poor argument against doing something. it's kind of the point"
Lol that might be one of the dumbest things I've ever read. So what, you treat a car at 10 mph and then say it's ready for 100 mph? What about giving teachers worry 20 kids 200 instead, it figuring out how to make a profitable company go from 100 to 10,000 employees. Scalability is important, to say otherwise is ignorant and dumb. |
butt.
01.16.19 | holy shit some of you people are legitimately awful people wtf |
budgie
01.16.19 | it's the internet buttboy.... |
TheSupernatural
01.16.19 | >My bet is that the Democrats repeat their mistakes of nominating an incomprehensively boring candidate.
Ding ding ding
Let's face it, they nominate anyone but Bernie and you're going to see a close shitshow to 2016. Democrats are banking on Trump winning the GOP nomination and I don't even think that's a guarantee with another 16ish months before the official nomination.
People all pretend that there are normal moderates who were forced to vote for Trump or Hillary but the reality is most people don't vote except when they really want someone to win. It's what made Obama dominate in 2008, even though he duped a lot of people and governed by status quo.
Willing to give Liz Warren a chance if she can drop her shitty foreign policy ideas but she's not my first choice. I won't vote for a Democrat if it's a neoliberal snoozer like Biden or Beto. |
budgie
01.16.19 | but yeah not surprised that a lot of the people i already didn't like on this site are basically /pol/ losers |
TheSupernatural
01.16.19 | >I don't want to pay more taxes. Especially if they're going to some Chicago crackwhore for the sole purpose of keeping her alive long enough to produce one more hopeless, starving child that needs even more tax money to live before his crackwhore mother finally overdoses.
In case you need this spelled out for you, you're a racist with shitty politics and probably shouldn't be on the internet. |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | are we talking about scalability or even attempting to try? I was talking about the latter, but if it's the former, Bernie's proposal for example is a 4-year gradual process. I doubt if it ever happens, it'll be ripping the band-aid, excuse the pun |
JWT155
01.16.19 | "holy shit some of you people are legitimately awful people wtf"
How so? I can possibly understand Universal Income starting on a state level, but to jump straight into a national program would be an utter disaster. It's never been tried on this scale in the west and to act that it would be seamless transition is asinine. Furthermore America doesn't have healthcare problem in terms of provided care, it's a problem with costs, fixes should be applied to the insurance companies, more Government oversight and beauracracy will not improve the process, it will only slow it down and make it more costly. Again look at test case A) The VA Hospitals. They're a disaster, and if the government does a terrible and inefficient job caring for our veterans, those who should be getting the best top notch treatment, then what can we expect for the average American? |
Meridiu5
01.16.19 | My bet is that the Democrats repeat their mistakes of nominating an incomprehensively boring candidate.
Boring is their best move. If Omalley was nominated in 2016 they wpuld have won. Democrats eat glue now so they have to vote for oooOoo shiny now |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | > In case you need this spelled out for you, you're a racist with shitty politics and probably shouldn't be on the internet.
Literally said nothing about any race but nice of the blue-haired shitweeds to expose themselves for me. |
JWT155
01.16.19 | Agreed, boring is good, but a no name like O' Malley would still get licked by Trump. I think Biden would manhandle Trump even now. |
Trophycase
01.16.19 | Hillary also had the problem of trying to take the high road when she wasn't really a good person herself. If you want to try to have the moral high ground, you actually have to walk the walk. Hopefully they don't repeat this mistake again as well. |
LelandAB
01.16.19 | Biden is good but he's ooooold. We need younger Democrat leaders. |
LelandAB
01.16.19 | "Hillary also had the problem of trying to take the high road when she wasn't really a good person herself. If you want to try to have the moral high ground, you actually have to walk the walk. Hopefully they don't repeat this mistake again as well."
Exactly why I have issues with Tulsi Gabbard. She basically pretended LGBT people weren't really people, just "homosexual extremists". Also supported a bill promoting conversion therapy. There isn't really any coming back from that one Tulsi |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | Out of all the four-eyed NPC smuggies on the internet who love to lecture about EMPATHY! and HUMANITY! and call anyone who doesn't subscribe to their emotion-based politics racists and bad humans, I wonder how many actually practice what they preach, and directly help the poor and assist the needy on their own time and their own dime.
My guess is 1 out of every 400 or so.
"Somebody else do something!!" - libs |
JoeTex
01.16.19 | blame it on the pant suits |
JWT155
01.16.19 | "Biden is good but he's ooooold. We need younger Democrat leaders."
Pair him with a younger popular progressive, maybe even someone like a Kamala Harris or a Cory Booker. |
JoeTex
01.16.19 | and that fly |
sixdegrees
01.16.19 | its taken this long for someone to break out the NPC memes |
Sinternet
01.16.19 | 'How so? I can possibly understand Universal Income starting on a state level, but to jump straight into a national program would be an utter disaster. It's never been tried on this scale in the west and to act that it would be seamless transition is asinine.
no one is saying there will be a seamless transition. what they are saying is that the benefits of such a policy far outweigh any negatives along the road to get there. and to say that because something has never been done before its unrealistic is a fallacy in itself. scalability is also not really a good argument either, as once you operate on a state level you are dealing with areas the same size as european countries who have no problems whatsoever.
'Furthermore America doesn't have healthcare problem in terms of provided care, it's a problem with costs'
so you provide a socialised system in which, as it's not being controlled by corporations with a massive profit motive, can result in a much lower cost not only on a governmental budget level but also to the consumer (the socialised system also means that they have an unprecedentedly large customer base, creating a better collective bargaining pool for goods and services)
|
Sinternet
01.16.19 | 'Out of all the four-eyed NPC smuggies on the internet who love to lecture about EMPATHY! and HUMANITY! and call anyone who doesn't subscribe to their emotion-based politics racists and bad humans, I wonder how many actually practice what they preach, and directly help the poor and assist the needy on their own time and their own dime.
My guess is 1 out of every 400 or so.
"Somebody else do something!!" - libs'
yikes |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | > yikes
#powerful |
Sinternet
01.16.19 | keep going bud |
Meridiu5
01.16.19 | Wealth redistribution isnt compassionate. It just makes politicians rich |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | does dude want receipts or something? isn't the fact that they're willing to pay more in taxes to help others enough? |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | > Wealth redistribution isnt compassionate. It just makes politicians rich
RACIST |
Trophycase
01.16.19 | those are reddit quote arrows my dude |
sixdegrees
01.16.19 | https://img.fireden.net/v/image/1499/38/1499389309675.png |
JWT155
01.16.19 | "no one is saying there will be a seamless transition. what they are saying is that the benefits of such a policy far outweigh any negatives along the road to get there. and to say that because something has never been done before its unrealistic is a fallacy in itself. scalability is also not really a good argument either, as once you operate on a state level you are dealing with areas the same size as european countries who have no problems whatsoever."
That's all completely debateable. Millions even under Obamacare don't have coverage, and with those people still not in the system prices have skyrocketed for other plans. My own plan for a single male non tobacco user in my 20's doubled and I pay $760 a month for my own Health Insurance.
And how is the scalability argument a fallacy? Have you ever worked in a business or run a company? You simply cannot expand a program or business without making everything more complicated. A Universal Healthcare system would need possibly millions of new jobs in beauracracy, new departments, procedures, databases, tech support, all of these things out of thin air will cause tremendous problems and outside of the free market I can guarantee a lot of this will lead to very wasteful spending and innefficient systems, after all if no one is to compete with the government what is their incentive to say create a user firendly website, tools for Doctors to use that are simple and easy to use, etc. This naive outlook that this will be hard but not too difficult is just hogwash.
"so you provide a socialised system in which, as it's not being controlled by corporations with a massive profit motive, can result in a much lower cost not only on a governmental budget level but also to the consumer (the socialised system also means that they have an unprecedentedly large customer base, creating a better collective bargaining pool for goods and services)"
Like I've said I've yet to see our Government prove it's capable of doing such a thing, look no further than the VA and how our veterans are taken care of. Show me a well run VA system and then I'll sympathize a universal healthcare option. |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | 'Out of all the four-eyed NPC smuggies on the internet who love to lecture about EMPATHY'
you've already shown that ur empathy tank is on empty lol |
GhostB1rd
01.16.19 | Saunders 2020
Read my blog post on why Beanie can still win.
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JWT155
01.16.19 | "does dude want receipts or something? isn't the fact that they're willing to pay more in taxes to help others enough?"
That inherently leads to the question why should the Government take my money to provide a service that I don't think they can efficiently provide and also isn't their job? Believe it or not a lot of people think the Government is outrageously inefficient with spending tax dollars, and that such inefficiency shouldn't be applied to our healthcare system. |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | the russians. |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | > does dude want receipts or something? isn't the fact that they're willing to pay more in taxes to help others enough?
No, you want other, richer people to pay more in taxes to help your e-pets, while you pay the same amount of dick in taxes as you did before because you work at TGI Friday's and earn half your net income in unreported cash tips.
But hey, just the fact that you would *vote* for someone who has their shit together in life and made some money in the process to have a gun put to their head to be forced to pay an ever-increasing amount of their wealth in taxes so the recipients can blow it all on Cheetos and vices makes you such a CARING, COMPASSIONATE person! Such a GOOD DUDE! It's okay, we all know anyone who makes more than 40k a year is probably a fascist KKK boogeyman who voted for Blormpf anyway (unless they're an actress or a journalist with a blue-checkmarked twitter account), so they don't deserve what they have. |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | universal healthcare is basically a no brainer the idea that the US is too big for it even though it works in literally every other country just shows you mofos been drinkin the randian koolaid hard like a moafucker dig |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | fuck the motherfuckin rich and jesuslames if your ass addicted to whataburger you a bigger burden on the nation than a mufuckin smack addict cause you fat as hell and you gonna drive up costs for us all with ya shitty fat covered heart mafucker |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | yall be fartin |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | I support my own habits, sonicthebuttplumber |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | ya basically it a mafuckin shithole up in here lol the us can blow me fuck george washington fuckers |
JWT155
01.16.19 | I mean I swear over half the problems in the UK I hear on a regular basis is how shitty the NHS is so I wouldn't necessarilly say that "it's worked everywhere". Prices and costs in the US sucks, but we have the best healthcare in terms of quality, ambulance response times, surgical experts, specialty Doctors, options, etc compared to any other country. |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | alright porkins resortin to homophobia typical of a mafuckin bitch. get out of my thread |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | yeah no regulations allows us to be the leading innovators in mafuckin boner pills, bravo! sit ya ass down |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | m/ |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.16.19 | @jesus how can u be so alt right and care about Hollywood rapists at the same time |
zakalwe
01.16.19 | What do you fucks actually want? I mean really want for the greater good not your self delusional, virtue signalling, filtered, projection of what you are and what you could and should be?
You cunts ever thought about the bullshit everybody has had to pull and crawl through so your bleating could even be registered as meaningful?
|
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | What? |
diamondsmile
01.16.19 | like, we get it, you're super far left |
JWT155
01.16.19 | I mean it's unanimous that the US is second to none in terms of actual Doctors, care, etc, that's not even debateable. The disadvatage is the extreme cost and insurance. |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | zak suck my dick bro |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | lets try to stay on topic. |
Trophycase
01.16.19 | "What do you fucks actually want?"
Carbon tax, pollution tax, universal healthcare, removal of mandatory parking minimums, legalized marijuana, new laws surrounding data privacy, dismantling of the surveillance state, creation of a national ID, dissolution of Equifax, and those are just what I can think of off the top of my head. |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | "No, you want other, richer people to pay more in taxes to help your e-pets, while you pay the same amount of dick in taxes as you did before because you work at TGI Friday's and earn half your net income in unreported cash tips.
But hey, just the fact that you would *vote* for someone who has their shit together in life and made some money in the process to have a gun put to their head to be forced to pay an ever-increasing amount of their wealth in taxes so the recipients can blow it all on Cheetos and vices makes you such a CARING, COMPASSIONATE person! Such a GOOD DUDE! It's okay, we all know anyone who makes more than 40k a year is probably a fascist KKK boogeyman who voted for Blormpf anyway (unless they're an actress or a journalist with a blue-checkmarked twitter account), so they don't deserve what they have."
uh ok |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | trophy youre just a bleedin heart |
Trophycase
01.16.19 | Oh and illegalize those fucking blue headlights on cars |
Sinternet
01.16.19 | ' mean I swear over half the problems in the UK I hear on a regular basis is how shitty the NHS is so I wouldn't necessarilly say that "it's worked everywhere". Prices and costs in the US sucks, but we have the best healthcare in terms of quality, ambulance response times, surgical experts, specialty Doctors, options, etc compared to any other country.
its fucking hilarious you bring the nhs up because nearly all of it's current problems is down to the increasing privatisation and the tories in power giving contracts to their private insurance friends who do the bare minimum possible |
rabidfish
01.16.19 | y'all don't have national ID system? looooool |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | i laugh when cops die |
Sinternet
01.16.19 | 'But hey, just the fact that you would *vote* for someone who has their shit together in life and made some money in the process to have a gun put to their head to be forced to pay an ever-increasing amount of their wealth in taxes so the recipients can blow it all on Cheetos and vices makes you such a CARING, COMPASSIONATE person! Such a GOOD DUDE! It's okay, we all know anyone who makes more than 40k a year is probably a fascist KKK boogeyman who voted for Blormpf anyway (unless they're an actress or a journalist with a blue-checkmarked twitter account), so they don't deserve what they have.'
you triggered buddy? need a safe space |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | i go to nice neighborhoods and piss in mailboxes |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | yo sin go easy on him man someone has to protect the rich its not like they have armies of lawyers or complete control over our government or |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | i wipe my ass with the flag. any flag |
Trophycase
01.16.19 | But bro they totally "earned" their billion dollars. |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | > you triggered buddy? need a safe space
No, just waiting for someone to counter. I'm sure somebody will at least try once sputnik as a whole stops #literallyshaking from the spanking I just administered. |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | i was rooting for isis. |
Sinternet
01.16.19 | someone to counter the delusional ramblings of an amerifat? might be waiting a while buddy. usually when an autist goes tardmode you just leave em be to get it out their system |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | i donated money to the dallas sniper |
JWT155
01.16.19 | Cool Sinternet, I just don't see in America how Universal Healthcare will overall improve American Healthcare. Yes, sure, more people may be covered, but I think it's indisputable that the quality of care will drop, and I think it's more than rational for people to believe that the quality of care dropping will far outwiegh the few additional people who will be covered additionally, and additionally how many people will go broke or struggle even more financially when they're making less due to increasing healthcare costs? What's the value of free healthcare when you're struggling to survive and just pay your bills? Like awesome, you can go to the Doctors and pay little to nothing but now you can't pay your rent, bills, student loans, etc, and most Americans are already in debt and live paycheck to paycheck. |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | columbine was sweet |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | the spanking I just administered |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | uh dude people go bankrupt over medical bills |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | > yo sin go easy on him man someone has to protect the rich its not like they have armies of lawyers or complete control over our government or
Yep, some guy who worked his ass off and now has enough capital to try to launch his own small business has armies of lawyers and has complete control over the government.
https://pics.me.me/just-let-that-sink-in-11748559.png |
zakalwe
01.16.19 | Are you gluttonous, consuming, self serving, superficial, unrestrained, obnoxious, without restraint, without consideration, without class, decorum, discipline, humour or any sense of irony whatsoever all the while being incredulous to everything and completely oblivious to anything that isn’t atomised or broken down into yes or no.
You’re yank in a nutshell. Bunch of total fucking melts. |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | the value of free healthcare when youre struggling financially is now you have one less thing to worry about cause your country has decided to enter society |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | jesus that pic didnt post its a list dipshit |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | zak shut the fuck up man |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | I spanked Sinternet go hard I scrambled his brains. He's not even attempting to break out of smuggie liberal mode and make an argument. |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | please stop spamming. |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | > jesus that pic didnt post its a list dipshit
Try pasting the link into another tab, brainiac. |
JWT155
01.16.19 | "uh dude people go bankrupt over medical bills"
And you don't think people will go bankrupt/struggle financially when they are currently living paycheck to paycheck and have 20% or whatever additional number added to their taxes and detracted from their income? I feel terrible for those in financial trouble who are bankrupt due to our healthcare system, but this idea that universal healthcare would solve all our problems and not have any negative externalities his naive, and there's a great possibility it could financially cause more harm than good. Right now only unfortunate few with terrible healthcare issues are going bankrupt, under universal healthcare millions of people could go from struggling paycheck to paycheck to officially being broke. |
Trophycase
01.16.19 | man this list really went downhill quickly |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | Is anyone gonna call me toxic at some point? I'm *this close* to liberal bingo. |
Trophycase
01.16.19 | "And you don't think people will go bankrupt/struggle financially when they are currently living paycheck to paycheck and have 20% or whatever additional number added to their taxes and detracted from their income?"
I think the idea is that most people won't have their taxes increase unless they are the kind of person who would never go bankrupt from a medical bill |
zakalwe
01.16.19 | Sin is the only person in existence who would actually welcome being interrogated in a gulag. |
Keyblade
01.16.19 | yea this is wack now, peace |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | its a good thread you just gotta grow a goober |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | dude they wouldnt be taxing poor people |
ArsMoriendi
01.16.19 | zak and Sinternet: two Englishmen trying to tell Americans how we should be handling our country... are they the John Olivers of Sputnik? |
Trophycase
01.16.19 | did you just assume their Englishgender? |
ArsMoriendi
01.16.19 | Yes |
sixdegrees
01.16.19 | more like john oliver and paul joseph watson |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.16.19 | Is jesus a guitarededchuck alt |
diamondsmile
01.16.19 | "zak and Sinternet: two Englishmen trying to tell Americans how we should be handling our country... are they the John Olivers of Sputnik?"
Someone tell Meridiu5 to shut up too hes from Venezuela |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | hahaha pots dude chuck is so retarded |
GhostB1rd
01.16.19 | If you ain't from Murica you can shut your mouf tbh. |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | but tbh jesus is more shapiro type and chuck talks all enlightened he's more peterson/rogan conservative tbh |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | I mean, I don't care if Democrats introduce a new Universal Healthcare bill, but I don't want Obamacare back. It fucked a lot of my family members over so fuck Obamacare.
I'm a Conservative but I'm not a Republican. |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | ghostbird still jammin hinder and suicide silence? |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | obamacare is right wing bro |
GhostB1rd
01.16.19 | Sonic I fucked your mom, dude. |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | no you didnt cause you aint got a penis. and even if you did you'd ned a microscope to see it |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | @Sonic I'm aware Obamacare isn't right-wing I'm just saying I may be Conservative but I am willing to accept Universal Healthcare, a predominantly Progressive policy. |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | but anyway i take that as a yes. why you even join a music site if you think brokencyde is better than led zeppelin |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | im sayin obamacare is a corporatist rightwing policy bro :D |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | romneycare bro remember the shiz? zagoo |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | Oh LOL I forgot Romneycare was a thing. |
ArsMoriendi
01.16.19 | Didn't Romney, a Republican, love the idea of universal healthcare?
Sometimes it seems like Republicans are only against it because Obama's was the first administration to try to get it passed
EDIT: you guys beat me to the punch |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | yall should check out the albums on my list |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | Either way, there are only 3 people I'm willing to vote for in 2020
Trump
Kasich (If he runs)
Gabbard (If she runs)
Though if both decide to run, between Kasich and Gabbard I'mma vote Gabbard. |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | @ArsMoriend Romney changes opinions with the seasons bro. |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | pretty insane ideological gap between trump and ol gabapentin there |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | some people want to watch the world burn |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | :D |
sonictheplumber
01.16.19 | fuck israel. |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | fuck israel [2] |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | > Didn't Romney, a Republican, love the idea of universal healthcare?
Lol Romney.
Someone isn't familiar with RINOs. |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | I'm a Conservative Centrist. I'll vote for who I most agree with, but I won't be defined by my Right-wing affiliation. If a Democrat says some shit I like? She's got my vote. Gabbard is probably the Dem's best option to beat Trump. She's classy, keeps herself out of the identity politics hole, doesn't mind compromise, and can regain the Moderate base that Hillary pissed away. |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | Fuck Hamas |
GhostB1rd
01.16.19 | Afterward your mom told me she'd been feeding you asbestos cheerios since birth and that's why we ended up here. |
GhostB1rd
01.16.19 | Also lol what is this a jihadi support group? |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | @GhostB1rd TBF I support Israel but not Israel's government. |
GhostB1rd
01.16.19 | Good thing Israel's fp isn't dictated by children on Sputnikmusicdotcom tho |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | Agreed |
zakalwe
01.16.19 | Anyone who states ‘fuck Israel’ is a massively clueless cunt. |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | Lol I support Israel because Fox News told me to!!!1
Fuck Israel. Fuck that entire region. Let them slaughter each other. |
sixdegrees
01.16.19 | they did 9/11 dude |
Kompys2000
01.16.19 | Like this site really needed another pseudo-libertarian jagoff pulling double-duty on Dave Mustaine's cock |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.16.19 | Fuck Netanyahu and fuck Hamas
Bless innocent Israelis and Palestinian refugees |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.16.19 | Zak is right for once |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | > Like this site really needed another pseudo-libertarian jagoff pulling double-duty on Dave Mustaine's cock
> Joined 11-28-15
Get off my lawn you fucking sputnik pre-puber. |
GhostB1rd
01.16.19 | "Lol I support Israel because Fox News told me to!!!1"
lol thrash metal 36% lol |
Underflow
01.16.19 | i'll vote for whoever keeps the border open |
Kompys2000
01.16.19 | LMAO how about you fucking make me |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.16.19 | I dont think jesus can decide which meme he'd rather be. NPC or Proudboi. |
GhostB1rd
01.16.19 | The border closes at 9:00 p.m. |
sixdegrees
01.16.19 | google USS Liberty |
Underflow
01.16.19 | we need an open borders president |
zakalwe
01.16.19 | “Fuck Israel. Fuck that entire region. Let them slaughter each other.”
This is genuinely disconcerting. Fool. |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | Fuck Netanyahu and fuck Hamas
Bless innocent Israelis and Palestinian refugees [2]
Fucking Pots with the post of the year.
"Lol I support Israel because Fox News told me to!!!1
Fuck Israel. Fuck that entire region. Let them slaughter each other."
I support Israel because not supporting it could mean death to a lot of Jewish/Christian brothers and sisters. Many Muslims in Palestine would gladly exterminate Jews and Christians off of the face of the planet, with them being on the Holy Land makes the situation even more dire.
To allow Palestine control over Jerusalem would allow Islamic Radicals and Hamas supporters free reign to butcher Christians and Jews and exile them from providence. I cannot support that.
Whose land is whose matters little to me, what matters is that my brothers and sisters are safe, and Israel provides that safety (somewhat) |
GhostB1rd
01.16.19 | Some of y'all needa Jewish gf with a big booty to set you straight. |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | > I support Israel because not supporting it could mean death to a lot of Jewish/Christian brothers and sisters. Many Muslims in Palestine would gladly exterminate Jews and Christians off of the face of the planet, with them being on the Holy Land makes the situation even more dire.
Why do I give a shit? |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | You don't have to care, I'm just telling you Fox News has nothing to do with my support of Israel. |
ArsMoriendi
01.16.19 | Do people under the age of 40 actually watch Fox and CNN anymore?
Real question |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | > i realistically have no personal reason to hate israel lol im not even palestinian
Did you lose anyone in 9/11? |
GhostB1rd
01.16.19 | Holy shit. |
zakalwe
01.16.19 | Christ almighty. Don’t intertwine everything with some bullshit news channel or politicised cobblers. Look, read and interpret for yourself to form your own ideas and think independently on the free information that you can freely digest. You dumb yank cunts. |
CaliggyJack
01.16.19 | Hey now. I may be a yank and a cunt, but I am not "dumb" good sir! |
ArsMoriendi
01.16.19 | zak uses the word yank as though it proves his point
Zak: yank bad, Brit good |
zakalwe
01.16.19 | The people know who they are. I generalise, I’d live in your world Cali dude
|
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.16.19 | The Jews are stealing our clouds!!! |
Jesuslaves
01.16.19 | What's that, Israel? You sucker-punched Syria, Iraq, and Iran in the eye a bunch of times and then ran away and now they're threatening to rip your head off? That's terrible! Here's $40 billion of our taxpayer money and I'm gonna put Syria, Iraq, and Iran in timeout for being bad, bad boys! Poor wittle Israel!
Fuck them. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.16.19 | That was jesuslaves dad |
GhostB1rd
01.16.19 | Probably. |
Minushuman24
01.16.19 | beto/bernie yo |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.16.19 | I love when people talk about America like its dynamic and there are multiple people with different views and then talk about other countries like they are one dude. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.16.19 | How to b a xenophobe |
sixdegrees
01.16.19 | "amerifats" |
Jesuslaves
01.17.19 | muh xenophobia!!!
AVclub is that way >>>>> |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | That could be any number of directions depending on which way I hold my phone |
Jesuslaves
01.17.19 | Literally go anywhere else. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | I'd point you to alex jones's youtube channel but.... |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | K ima go to Israel so I can steal that dark cloud hanging over ur angry lil head lol |
budgie
01.17.19 | tfw i love lordpots |
Meridiu5
01.17.19 | Israel is our only source of cia intelligence in the middle east. They are also the only democracy in the middle east... we will always support them regardless of the rise of far left antisemitism. |
zaruyache
01.17.19 | tfw you wanna be an antisemite and support palestine but arab palestinians are also technically semites |
Jesuslaves
01.17.19 | > Israel is our only source of cia intelligence in the middle east. They are also the only democracy in the middle east
Who gives a shit? |
budgie
01.17.19 | LOL @ zaru |
Meridiu5
01.17.19 | Dont be asinine. Those same “semites” chant “death to israel” |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | Speaking of which whose bright idea was it for the far left to start calling the far right nazi's |
budgie
01.17.19 | semitic doesn't mean israelite |
zaruyache
01.17.19 | given the political history there i don't really think they're unjustified in not liking Israel. Using the common Muslim "Death to X" slogan as an argument against them isn't a good argument since it's an islamic meme. |
StrikeOfTheBeast
01.17.19 | This thread literally doubled in size in an hour. Good ol' politics amirite |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | I feel really close to everyone rn |
Keyblade
01.17.19 | nice to see the 'stop calling everything racist/sexist/homophobic etc' crowd calling ppl antisemites for opposing the state of isreal |
StrikeOfTheBeast
01.17.19 | A wise man once told me that people suck and to not be people. In other words, don't be people. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | Nice to see the 'fuck the jews' crowd. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | Nice to see everyone in fact glad u could all turn out |
0xME
01.17.19 | dont mind me I'm just waiting for the purge of this list :) |
JWT155
01.17.19 | "dude they wouldnt be taxing poor people"
There's plenty of people living paycheck to paycheck who will be affected for the worse and made more poor. At my last job for 5 years I worked paycheck to paycheck, had almost no savings and $600 worth of student debt a month that I still have 4 years left to go. I just got a new job but I'm still years away from being able to own a home, propose to my girlfriend, ponder having a family, etc. I need every dollar I can to save for my future, and frankly having 20% of my income taxed for healthcare would be detrimental for me moving forward in my life and the goals I have. And I'm not the only one, this generation has millions of young people reaching 30 living at home, no savings, a job far less they were promised if they went to university and in no place to be homeowners and parents. So yes, a 20% tax might not be in the poorest of the poor but it would be detrimental to millions, and especially young adults already struggling with student and subpar careers. |
StrikeOfTheBeast
01.17.19 | I'm glad I'm here. ;) |
Keyblade
01.17.19 | why the fuck are u pushing a Biden ticket then lol |
Meridiu5
01.17.19 | nice to see the 'stop calling everything racist/sexist/homophobic etc' crowd calling ppl antisemites for opposing the state of isreal
Except that im right |
Keyblade
01.17.19 | if u read the word israel and u think 'jew', then that's a you problem bruh |
MrHarrison
01.17.19 | Biden's gonna get #metoo'd outta the race, Bernie all tha way |
MrHarrison
01.17.19 | I could live with Warren though |
zaruyache
01.17.19 | i don't see why people who hate jews would stomach the idea of supporting arab muslims just to get back at jews who don't even live in their own country. well yes you see hollywood is run be the evil jews, so I'm going to protest the israelis because that'll show them! |
zaruyache
01.17.19 | #teamgoyem #flawlessvictory |
StrikeOfTheBeast
01.17.19 | I NEEEEED AAAAAA JEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEW |
JWT155
01.17.19 | Biden has been a creep lol |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | Don't forget the evil GAY Jews who run the crossover porn empire giving everyone aids yes this is a real conspiracy theory that people believe |
sixdegrees
01.17.19 | jews rock |
Jesuslaves
01.17.19 | Me: Fuck Israel, fuck Palestine, fuck that entire region of the world. For all I care they can all bomb each other into the ocean. Nobody over there deserves a cent of U.S. taxpayer money to fund their dicklick religious wars.
Sputnik: DA JOOOOOOZ LOLOLOLOLOL |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | Lovin' Jew - Minnie Riperton |
Sinternet
01.17.19 | conveniently ignoring the incredibly fucked us intervention that caused a lot of this mess in the first place |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | Jesus what are your feelings on the jews |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | Still milking that 2000 year grudge? |
Tyler.
01.17.19 | be honest.......who would elect me as president? |
Jesuslaves
01.17.19 | What are you talking about? Those asswipes have been going at each other since they were cavemen. |
sixdegrees
01.17.19 | 1948....the age of the cave man |
Jesuslaves
01.17.19 | Implying conflict among middle eastern shitheads isn't as old as the planet itself. |
Tyler.
01.17.19 | Implying conflict among middle eastern shitheads isn't as old as the planet itself.
pobegduws dsuhoebifg |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | I didnt realize cavemen came after organized religion |
Jesuslaves
01.17.19 | I didn't realize Jewish people didn't exist until 1948. |
sixdegrees
01.17.19 | the modern middle eastern conflict is a consequence of post-WWI state-building |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | Ya but u didn't even get my jesus joke |
Jesuslaves
01.17.19 | The "modern" middle eastern conflict. As opposed to the "classic" middle eastern conflict which has going on since shit knows when?
The entire region should be a parking lot. |
sixdegrees
01.17.19 | deus vult my fellow kekistanis |
Jesuslaves
01.17.19 | Good talk, champ. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | The entire region of your skull is vacant enough to make a good parking lot as well |
Jesuslaves
01.17.19 | 3/10 too wordy |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | Jk I love u ur hilarious |
GhostB1rd
01.17.19 | Sinter arabswuzalwayspeacefultillmuricaruineditall net. |
zaruyache
01.17.19 | before that post-WWI-state-building everyone was having wars with everyone else every few decades in Europe, so how is that different? 1800's Europe/North America weren't peaceful places much either. |
GhostB1rd
01.17.19 | Fast forward to 2100 when you're still rationalizing the barbarity.
Good times, Zaru. Good times. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | Dont worry zaru will be dead by then |
Keyblade
01.17.19 | tfw it was european barbarity that led to the israeli conflict |
Kompys2000
01.17.19 | Lol I would vote for Tyler in 2020 |
zaruyache
01.17.19 | "rationalizing the barbarity"
making an appropriate comparison between arab conflicts and the endless wars of hwhite men isn't rationalizing either. White imperialism is just as trash and just as prevalent, but unless you're going to actually condemn that too, you have no place whining about how relatively violent the muslims are.
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Meridiu5
01.17.19 | tfw it was european barbarity that led to the israeli conflict
WWI was a big part of it. Aggression for the cause is written in Islam's blood though. The crusades were a response to 200 years of attempts of Islamic empires invading europe. |
Keyblade
01.17.19 | I was referring to the holocaust but go off b |
hal1ax
01.17.19 | i would vote for u tyler |
Tyler.
01.17.19 | Thank you |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | This thread is the closest I think I've ever seen keyblade to losing his cool....
That's how chill he is |
sonictheplumber
01.17.19 | Beef queef chief |
Meridiu5
01.17.19 | current head of state is also a WWE hall of famer |
widowslaugh123
01.17.19 | If you need vaccines you have a weak gene pool and you probably should just die. What if I was actually this stupid |
Ryus
01.17.19 | who wants to give me a rundown of this thread |
Itwasthatwas
01.17.19 | The ideas that voting has any meaning or that democracy is a viable way to run a country are laughable. Whoever you vote for, the permanent government and the corporate lobbyists that own it will just overturn your will. They might give you some window dressing that they can afford to part with (paying lip service to progressive identity issues on one side or concerns re border security/crime/etc on the other) but they’ll never allow you to change anything meaningful. Don’t want endless war? Sorry, you’re shit out of luck. Want reasonable restrictions on banking and lending practices after bankers nearly destroyed our economy? Get fucked. Democracy is just a corporatist exercise in vote buying that ensures maximum compliance with the agenda of the permanent government. |
DungeonBoy
01.17.19 | You're not wrong but that's not what I took away from this thread, lol. |
Keyblade
01.17.19 | fax @itwas
liberal democracy is nothing but smoke and mirrors. how can you call it democratic if a handful of corporate interests can hold more sway than the entire rest of the populace combined? |
JWT155
01.17.19 | So it's just coincidence that Liberal Democracies have cultivated some of the most affluent, rich and succesful economies and societies in human history? Through capitalism and primarily democratic transitions poverty world wide has dropped, there has been less war and overall humanity has never been in a better place.
Sitting on a computer having the access to technology and freedom to speak your mind almost entirely due to modern democratic and capitalistic principles to bitch about liberal democracy is rich. |
Keyblade
01.17.19 | I'm just gonna ignore the old, 'ur criticizing society but yet u participate in it, how rich' canard because I wasn't even taking about any of that, just commenting on the democratic process. if u could could comment on that, that would be cool |
JWT155
01.17.19 | What system is better than giving people a voice? No system is perfect, and every other system will have it's own layers of corruption and misrepresentation, and in magnitudes higher than a democratic process. What system would you prefer |
Storm In A Teacup
01.17.19 | Bernie God Damn Sanders |
Keyblade
01.17.19 | I mean I would say it's a little bit beyond being simply imperfect as it does almost the opposite of what's advertised on the tin. but I would start with getting big money out of politics. I know there are amendment proposals out there that would make a huge improvement |
Trophycase
01.17.19 | There are cameras on every street corner, everything I type is being datamined, all my transactions and locations are being monitored to advertise to me, but hey, at least I can say what I want on the internet, right?
I get that there is this perception that there is a lot of freedom, and while in some sense that may be true, your freedom is still limited to a very small set of socially allowed behaviors (as always). With the advent of AI and mass surveillance brought about by capitalism this set of behaviors will only become smaller and be more strictly enforced. |
Keyblade
01.17.19 | man surveillance is such a huge issue that rarely gets touched on in mainstream discourse |
JoeTex
01.17.19 | power to the people |
JWT155
01.17.19 | "I mean I would say it's a little bit beyond being simply imperfect as it does almost the opposite of what's advertised on the tin. but I would start with getting big money out of politics. I know there are amendment proposals out there that would make a huge improvement"
Sooooo you're essentially agreeing that Liberal Democracy is the best, there just needs to be campaign finance changes. |
Itwasthatwas
01.17.19 | What’s more important, voice or good governance?
There have been a number of times in history when large numbers of people did not have a voice and yet the surrounding society flourished. That includes but is certainly not limited to American history. Even if voice was important, the point is that you only have the illusion of voice. Corporate interests will shape your opinion where they can by shaping your access to information and overturn your voice where they can’t.
Did liberal democracy produce technological development or is it possible that technological development masks the problems with liberal democracy? |
Trophycase
01.17.19 | It's kind of an invalid argument to say that "liberal democracy is the best because things are the best they have ever been". Realistically this has almost always been true under all forms of government. It's like the stock market, yeah there are bear markets and blips, but it goes up over time almost without fail. |
Meridiu5
01.17.19 | What system is better than giving people a voice? No system is perfect, and every other system will have it's own layers of corruption and misrepresentation, and in magnitudes higher than a democratic process. What system would you prefer
It was better when only property owners could vote. Republic > Democracy |
Trophycase
01.17.19 | Yes all systems will fail because government = power structure and power structures exist to amplify the power of specific individuals.
So in all systems you will either be on one end or the other. The wielder of the power structure, or the one who has it wielded against them. |
Keyblade
01.17.19 | 'Sooooo you're essentially agreeing that Liberal Democracy is the best, there just needs to be campaign finance changes.'
no, because like I said I wasn't talking about any of that, just expanding on a point someone made on the inherent flaw of just a single facet of it. I don't get why u need to keep stressing 'we the best', what are u, dj khaled? |
Sinternet
01.17.19 | the whole innovation argument quickly falls apart aswell when you consider that the technology that underpins every 'innovative' product is almost guaranteed to be a product of publicly-funded research |
JWT155
01.17.19 | I'm waiting for you to recommend what system you think is better, but you're dodging that question. |
Itwasthatwas
01.17.19 | Everyone is waiting with bated breath for you be interesting
All political systems are aristocratic in nature, some are just more honest about it than others. Ours is particularly ridiculous with its institutionalized bribery and blatant vote buying.
It’s important for people to understand that they have no material voice, so that the cultural expectation of noblesse oblige can be reimplemented. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | That sinternet comment is possibly the dumbest comment in this entire thread |
TheSupernatural
01.17.19 | Why wasn't this thread banned before it started? |
Relinquished
01.17.19 | cuz sonic threads usually promise the idiots to come out therefore kinda entertaining |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | Also because no one cares about sputniks politics |
TheSupernatural
01.17.19 | Til someone gets doxxed or worse. Don't underestimate the viciousness of awful people on the internet. |
TheSpaceMan
01.17.19 | "the whole innovation argument quickly falls apart aswell when you consider that the technology that underpins every 'innovative' product is almost guaranteed to be a product of publicly-funded research"
like nearly 100% of tax payer money that leads to innovation goes to private companies competing against one another to get a military contract. the burden of out-performing a competitor for dollar drives this |
TheSupernatural
01.17.19 | Also lolz at the guy who thinks "crackwhore in Chicago" isn't a racist dog whistle. We all know who you have in mind. It's the same nonsense when some asshole says "cultural Marxism" or "globalists" but claim not to be anti-Semitic. The only people using that language are the ones with specific racist ideology. |
Meridiu5
01.17.19 | like nearly 100% of tax payer money that leads to innovation goes to private companies competing against one another to get a military contract. the burden of out-performing a competitor for dollar drives this
sin's idea is stupid. capitalism has cured about 20,000 diseases in the past 60 years |
Tyler.
01.17.19 | Capitalism also puts more money into treatment for diseases over potential vaccines to stop people from getting them completely |
TheSupernatural
01.17.19 | Also who cares about innovation? Until you're stopping preventable deaths and easing pain, you're just talking about different ways to waste time and jerk off. The exploitative nature of capitalism doesn't lead to innovation because innovation is good; it leads to innovation because it's a way to take wealth from competitors and consumers. That is literally the only aim of a top-down capitalist system where the rules are written and enforced by the elite.
Innovation for its own sake is not as important as actually improving the quality of life for people globally. We Americans keep finding amazing new ways to murder foreign civilians but somehow can't find a way to get medicine to poor sick people without bankrupting them. Our government's priorities are shit. Always have been, tbf. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | Aight but also dont underestimate the irrelevance of Sputniks demograph |
TheSupernatural
01.17.19 | >Capitalism also puts more money into treatment for diseases over potential vaccines to stop people from getting them completely
It puts money into pharmaceuticals for profit, it doesn't put money into research. That's public funding. How vaccines have you actually gotten? Or rather, what's the total number of vaccines that are provided to people over the course of their lives? I don't believe it's a fluctuating number outside of flu virus research, and of course that's publicly funded through the CDC. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | I like this guy |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.17.19 | I like everyone even the Jews. Especially the Jews. |
TheSpaceMan
01.17.19 | "Also who cares about innovation? Until you're stopping preventable deaths and easing pain, you're just talking about different ways to waste time and jerk off"
dude cmon |
TheSpaceMan
01.18.19 | Tyler has a huge point though, with medicine it gets tricky. if thats what originally sparked the innovation thing than i miss understood... i just read it out of context as technological innovation in general |
JWT155
01.18.19 | "Innovation for its own sake is not as important as actually improving the quality of life for people globally. We Americans keep finding amazing new ways to murder foreign civilians but somehow can't find a way to get medicine to poor sick people without bankrupting them. Our government's priorities are shit. Always have been, tbf."
Uhh that's not true. Look at the west and how we've helped with world poverty. GMO's have revoltionized growing food in places like Africa where land was previously too desolate to grow anything. World hunger is also at an all time low and still steadilly decreasing, all with the help of the west. Even cellphones and the internet have revolutionized banking and technology in Asia and Africa in communties that are far removed from the rest of the world and otherwsie wouldn't be able to connect. This idea that we don't do any good for the world or the poor is just flat out not true.
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DominionMM1
01.18.19 | fuck jonas salk amirite |
Kompys2000
01.18.19 | More like Jonas SUCK amirite |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | Remember golden rice? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | Lol rip |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | Let's talk about innovative ways to jerk off |
DominionMM1
01.18.19 | been waiting 8 years for this |
WatchItExplode
01.18.19 | "Noblesse Oblige"
smartest thing in this whole thread IWTW |
Jesuslaves
01.18.19 | > Also lolz at the guy who thinks "crackwhore in Chicago" isn't a racist dog whistle. We all know who you have in mind. It's the same nonsense when some asshole says "cultural Marxism" or "globalists" but claim not to be anti-Semitic. The only people using that language are the ones with specific racist ideology.
Are you saying white women can't be crackwhores, you fucking bigot? |
Cygnatti
01.18.19 | fuck israel btw [?] |
Cygnatti
01.18.19 | "the whole innovation argument quickly falls apart aswell when you consider that the technology that underpins every 'innovative' product is almost guaranteed to be a product of publicly-funded research"
what the h*ck is this |
JWT155
01.18.19 | Ignorant nonsense is what it is. Look at most of the medical breakthroughs, scientific breakthrough, technological breakthroughs, hell even stuff liek the iphone and other modern inventions and they almost all come from liberal democracies with free enterprise. I work at a small company of 7 people and it exists because the owner took a risk and is reaping the rewards of taking a chance. But hey, apparently that can't happen in America. The delusional armchair socialists/communists posting here thinking they know better is hysterical, I doubt any of them are old enough to be out of school or had any experience in the real world yet, but they've seen a video on Noam Chomsky's critique of America so they're intellectual. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | I have two words. Gal Gadot. Yes I'd fuck Israel. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | Let us not forget Natalie Portman |
DominionMM1
01.18.19 | israeli chicks are hot yeah |
ArsMoriendi
01.18.19 | I've visited Israel before
nice place |
Keyblade
01.18.19 | 'The delusional armchair socialists/communists posting here thinking they know better is hysterical, I doubt any of them are old enough to be out of school or had any experience in the real world yet, but they've seen a video on Noam Chomsky's critique of America so they're intellectual.'
if only these straw ppl were real this wouldve been a sick burn |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | U can find them on tumblr tho |
Keyblade
01.18.19 | I bet. u can find anything there...except porn now lel |
Relinquished
01.18.19 | yo portman and gadot at the same time oooooohweeeeeee |
Cygnatti
01.18.19 | heheh |
Keyblade
01.18.19 | I'd become a zionist if that happened no lie |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | Literally my favorite part if 2018 was all the epic gay memes about tumblr taking away their porn |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | The gays really turned out the memes in 2018 it was a great time to be alive |
Relinquished
01.18.19 | yo if we can throw in daddario and kunis pre ashton spawns I’d be set for life i’ll leave everything and take all my money/liquidate all my shit |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | Hitler had it all wrong brunettes are supreme |
ArsMoriendi
01.18.19 | I just like hazel eyes
With any hair color honestly |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | I dunno dude natural red heads can generally fuck off regardless of eye color |
Relinquished
01.18.19 | i’ll take em off your hands then
sike I can’t i’m already tied to one |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | Hahaha fuck there are exceptions and those exceptions are god tier but most ginjies scare me |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | Like u know when someone is so fucking white and pasty ginger that they have like a literal galaxy's worth of freckles all the way down to their frickin hands and ur like... |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | Good god where do they fucking end what kind of horrifying surprises lay beneath ur garbs |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | Ya that scares me |
Relinquished
01.18.19 | like that photo of the one dad that had weak nut and busted 5 soulless spawns
and they host a legit gathering |
ArsMoriendi
01.18.19 | I like redheads, generally they only look weird with curly hair (I'm talking guys though)
Curls look best brown |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | Harrowing
I'm looking at pictures of crowds of gingers right now and its nightmare inducing |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | If my partner pushed out a ginger I would put it back. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | It's ok tho shes afraid of gingers too so the feeling would be mutual |
ArsMoriendi
01.18.19 | idk pornstar Jackson Davis is pretty damn hot honestly |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | I googled him it was a scary time |
Kompys2000
01.18.19 | I think it's a bit off-putting anytime a person looks like 100% of their DNA came from the same country. Like I can't believe there used to be laws against miscegenation when it's so clearly the best way to produce good-looking human beings. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | word to that |
TheSpaceMan
01.18.19 | 'Hitler had it all wrong brunettes are supreme'
truth |
sonictheplumber
01.18.19 | where the hell is chuck |
TheSupernatural
01.18.19 | >Uhh that's not true. Look at the west and how we've helped with world poverty. GMO's have revoltionized growing food in places like Africa where land was previously too desolate to grow anything. World hunger is also at an all time low and still steadilly decreasing, all with the help of the west. Even cellphones and the internet have revolutionized banking and technology in Asia and Africa in communties that are far removed from the rest of the world and otherwsie wouldn't be able to connect. This idea that we don't do any good for the world or the poor is just flat out not true.
Regurgitating Stephen Pinker's talking points about the benevolence of liberal democracy isn't insightful, it's just white man's burden with a 21st century appeal. The West didn't just stumble into their wealth and decide to share to showcase their generosity. They conquered and exploited everyone they could over the course of centuries. They didn't arrive on top because of a superior belief system or type of government; they arrived there through violence. World hunger exists because of violence. Poverty exists because of violence. The natural state of humanity is not poverty and hunger, and it's not like the innovations you're talking about like cellphones and the internet would not have existed if not for Western capitalists.
It's not to say that there isn't charitable work done by Western countries, but framing it as benevolence and not reparations tells a very favorable and inaccurate narrative about who's responsible for the inequality in global wealth. |
StonedManatee
01.18.19 | I am going to jump off a cliff after realizing how fucked I am regardless. Got to love being a ghost manatee. |
Trophycase
01.18.19 | Fucking get em Supernatural |
zaruyache
01.18.19 | 10% of the entire world is hungry, but yes agreed capitalism is definitely helping. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | I'm biting my fucking nails |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | The tension in here is so thicc u could fuck it |
Relinquished
01.18.19 | redheaded tension |
sonictheplumber
01.18.19 | pinker a rich bitch |
TheSupernatural
01.18.19 | Trophy I have no policy decision better than "illegalize those fucking blue headlights on cars" because jfc that needs to happen |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | ^^^supernatural for president 2020 |
Relinquished
01.18.19 | amen
legalize green lights |
Relinquished
01.18.19 | need em allowed for my whips |
sonictheplumber
01.18.19 | interesting. |
sonictheplumber
01.18.19 | Good morning scholars |
StrikeOfTheBeast
01.18.19 | grab them by the pussy |
DominionMM1
01.18.19 | "World hunger exists because of violence. Poverty exists because of violence."
A cause not THE cause
"The natural state of humanity is not poverty and hunger"
if poverty and hunger are a natural extension of violence then yeah they are. a very brief look through history will show you this
laying all the worlds economic problems at the feet of the west is misguided at best and disingenuous at worst. i mean look at singapore. they were colonized and exploited by the west and now they're an economic powerhouse. why? because they embraced industrialization, and trading and banking with the west.
regurgitating chomsky’s talking points isn’t insightful either
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Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | its true colonization hasn't been explicitly negative across the board, some nations got completely fucked but others have ended up on top because of it. |
zakalwe
01.18.19 | Coca-Colonisation fucked it all up. |
Itwasthatwas
01.18.19 | Colonialism was in some cases better than what came after.
Anyways, I totally disagree with the notion that violence, exploitation, hunger, poverty etc have not been humanity’s natural state. As for violence causing poverty and hunger... that’s an incredibly reductive way to look at history. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | i guess it depends how far back into human history you want to go to define your metric for the human condition. pre agriculture human condition was certainly a lot different than whatever states might be defined by violence, exploitation, poverty and hunger. we werent always a populate or transient enough species for that to be definitive of our groups. |
TheSpaceMan
01.18.19 | Good morning scholars
Lmao |
TheSpaceMan
01.18.19 | I just got a really nice whiskey decanter and I don't regret it |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.18.19 | scholarly! |
TheSpaceMan
01.18.19 | Yes, quite |
DominionMM1
01.18.19 | https://shop.bourbon.com/products/globe-decanter-with-4-glasses-and-whiskey-stones?variant=13762214592575&utm_campaign=gs-2018-11-01&utm_source=google&utm_medium=smart_campaign&gclid=Cj0KCQiAj4biBRC-ARIsAA4WaFjQA90YOoaeHmDkbwNwhQOzCJiQMEnhVEtFBgch0NMxYkZJlwXjbNcaAoGyEALw_wcB |
TheSpaceMan
01.19.19 | Lmao no way, thats what I copped |
TheSpaceMan
01.19.19 | How did you know?? |
DominionMM1
01.19.19 | i'm watching you right now |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.19.19 | that is a fuckin beaut |
TheSpaceMan
01.19.19 | I got the set with 2 glasses though, still looks beautiful. sitting in my glass cabinet alongside my books and records |
TheSpaceMan
01.19.19 | would upload a pic but sput is a windows 95 program |
Kompys2000
01.19.19 | Do you honestly think sputters could responsibly handle the power of being able to directly post pics |
Keyblade
01.19.19 | history would suggest no |
Kompys2000
01.19.19 | Yeah, from what I understand, that used to be a feature and it got removed because people were spamming dicks and stuff |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.19.19 | We can barely handle avatars and hyperlinks |
Sinternet
01.19.19 | more amputee porn on my music website pls |
Kompys2000
01.19.19 | I'll cheers to that |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.19.19 | They wont LOL |
Relinquished
01.19.19 | lol |
DominionMM1
01.19.19 | where’s balls? |
GhostB1rd
01.19.19 | Sinternet talks mad shit about capitalism yet we all know he's gonna be first in line when they get that sex robot to market. |
JWT155
01.19.19 | Damn potsy |
TheSpaceMan
01.19.19 | Yall acting like me having a decanter isnt awesome!! |
Kompys2000
01.19.19 | I figured it went without saying
Also I'm a little jealous |
TheSpaceMan
01.19.19 | < 3 come over for drinks in the dreary wasteland of ct all homies welcomed |
TheSpaceMan
01.19.19 | but yeah she sits pretty boastingly in my living room |
sonictheplumber
01.20.19 | ghostbird nom for worst user. ancap? check. thinks deathcore is better than sabbath? check. retarded? ah but i repeat myself... |
Meridiu5
01.20.19 | this is the internet. being right in a political argument is more important than basic human dignity |
sonictheplumber
01.20.19 | shut your fuckin mouth |
Meridiu5
01.20.19 | having some 1792 now, cheers 🍻 |
sonictheplumber
05.07.19 | :D |
budgie
05.07.19 | still going with warren so far |
JoeTex
05.07.19 | Biden's got it |
artiswar
05.07.19 | I just clicked on this thread and I can already taste the waft of AIDS in the air |
Meridiu5
05.08.19 | warren appears to be sinking with biden taking her steam |
artiswar
05.08.19 | Biden is going to stroke out before primaries (calling it) |
sonictheplumber
11.23.19 | sup |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.23.19 | wow 2020 is close by how did you predict this so clearly |
sonictheplumber
11.23.19 | niggrahs started campaigning the day after trump won man lol it was easy to see the writing on the ballz |
sonictheplumber
11.23.19 | i didnt predict andrew wang getting any sort of traction but i mean...he kinda hasnt |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.23.19 | Oh I was literally chatting shit about the year changing from 2019 to 2020 ignore me lol
Yank politics make me confused and angry |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | watching my gens americans (and canadians who pay so much more attention to american politics that they forget that we even have our own) lose their absolute fucking minds over trump has been great comic relief for the last few years tbh |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | we've been so busy shitting bricks we forgot to vote in our own federal election LOL woops bye-bye Liberal majority, bye NDP. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | you guys may have had the first black president, but we had the first black-face prime minister |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.23.19 | tbf canadian politics have been pretty good comic relief themselves
[exactly ;]] |
wutang4ever
11.23.19 | lol people vote still? How old do you have to be to register to vote anyway? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | godspeed bloc quebecois |
WatchItExplode
11.23.19 | People from Vancouver aren't even Canadian lol |
wutang4ever
11.23.19 | Yeah they're French. Duh. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | I'm not "from" vancouver |
Divaman
11.23.19 | Wait a minute! You're Canadian?!!! |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | shore am |
MO
11.23.19 | pots is prechin'
no one gives two shits about canadian politics up here |
budgie
11.23.19 | bonsoir je suis vancouverienne |
Josh D.
11.23.19 | Corbyn in three weeks or get fucked. |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.23.19 | Lol dumpster fires in three weeks |
GhostB1rd
11.23.19 | Corbyn is like y'alls version of Beanie. Old man screaming into nothingness, never to taste true power. |
Josh D.
11.23.19 | yawn |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.23.19 | Sortof but also corbynistas are worse than bernie bros and bernie actually has a vision of the future (I think) whereas corbyn has a reimagining of how the 80s should have been |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.23.19 | obviously preferable to a blue majority but also ugh |
Josh D.
11.23.19 | ???? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | sounds like ghostb1rd is our resident version of beanie by that logic |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.23.19 | i like ghostb1rd's healthcare policies yeah |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | what's that, "whites only"? |
GhostB1rd
11.23.19 | All fatties to GITMO. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | L O L |
GhostB1rd
11.23.19 | Think of the savings.
$$$ |
sixdegrees
11.23.19 | I like ghost's idea for a Battle Royale style death match, with the winner in each district receiving free healthcare for life |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | ohh i like that, as long as its televised of course |
budgie
11.23.19 | wtf |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | budgies like "this is all too complicated, cant we round up the fascists and punch our way to utopia?" |
budgie
11.23.19 | wtf |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | we will set out a very clear metric to divide people into two groups: nazi's and holy martyrs
we will ask them a series of one question as follows:
1) "do you do an agree w/ what i think"
if no plz go to nazi camp
if yes plz go fists of liberty camp |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | and then we do a punch |
budgie
11.23.19 | *eats poutine* |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | ok u can come to canada now u passed the test |
budgie
11.23.19 | can i choose the province |
Divaman
11.23.19 | Been there a few times, all on the East Coast. Liked it. The traffic around Toronto not so much, though. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | "can i choose the province"
depends how you pronounce "poutine"
if you say it like a normal person you can choose any province except quebec
if you say it like a fucking condescending piece of shit you can choose quebec but the rest of us wont have you |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | @diva toronto is the america of canada so yeah |
budgie
11.23.19 | i don't know how the different provinces pronounce poutine but i would choose quebec if i could anyhow |
chug73
11.23.19 | Do we live in a society y/n |
budgie
11.23.19 | there is no such thing as a society - mt |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | @budge then say it like you dont know how to pronounce the sounds of any letter other than "p" and "t" |
budgie
11.23.19 | they pronounce it like pute? means bitch in fr |
chug73
11.23.19 | joker laugh intensifies |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | More like "pt" |
chug73
11.23.19 | Pou-teen
Poo-teen |
budgie
11.23.19 | despite all this
i'm still unconvinced that poutine is actually good
looks hagg |
sixdegrees
11.23.19 | putin |
chug73
11.23.19 | Is that how you say it? Poo-teen |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | You gotta do it like your scoffing or spitting it. Like its very aggressive. Do "PUH" forcefully and then separately do "T-T" LIKE "TSS" but without the s and then do them together quick |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | If ur normal you call it poo teen |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | Also I used to hate poutine when I was young and yeah there is shitty poutine but good poutine is incredible budge |
chug73
11.23.19 | Potsy u sure are angry for a leaf |
Sinternet
11.23.19 | 1000 years corbyn reich |
wutang4ever
11.23.19 | wut |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | "Potsy u sure are angry for a leaf"
we are all pissed, its cold up here |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | and TRUMP IS PRESIDENT
who's our pm again? |
Keyblade
11.23.19 | aladdin |
chug73
11.23.19 | True doe |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | ah yes prime minister aladdin trudon't
love that guy haha what a nice guy |
sixdegrees
11.23.19 | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DDtBLSpXsAEl_U4.jpg
this aged well |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.23.19 | Ouch RIP |
wutang4ever
11.23.19 | I don't get into politic stuff, it seems like it's a waste of time. You can't control it anyway. It's like humanity is on one boat, sun beaten, thirsty, hungry, and its headed towards an island with promise. But the Captain wants to just circle around it until we all die, including himself. JUST GO TO THE ISLAND! |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.23.19 | im gong to start yelling "JUST GO TO THE FUCKING ISLAND!" in the middle of any political discourse i find myself in |
DominionMM1
11.23.19 | nah you never get off the boat man
never. get. off. the. boat. |
chug73
11.23.19 | Stahp the boots |
wutang4ever
11.23.19 | Lord: "Let's do this!"
Dom: "pfft I voted for Trump *frown*"
yup |
Meridiu5
11.24.19 | T R U M P |
oltnabrick
11.24.19 | joel bidoof |
chug73
11.24.19 | Low energy joe
|
sixdegrees
11.24.19 | beans o'rorke |
chug73
11.24.19 | Bernie Soynders
|
wwf
11.24.19 | I support Amy Klobulachar for president |
oltnabrick
11.24.19 | Biraq Oldbrappa |
sixdegrees
11.24.19 | barfsack ocrumbo |
Sinternet
11.24.19 | bark banana |
chug73
11.24.19 | Donald orange man |
oltnabrick
11.24.19 | bim bim the chimp! |
chug73
11.24.19 | Andrew Yangstein |
GhostB1rd
11.24.19 | Sinternet gonna be so mad online in three weeks. |
wwf
11.24.19 | I support Pete Buttedge for president |
Valkoor952
11.24.19 | so what happened with Chuck, why did he retire from sputnikmusic.com |
sixdegrees
11.24.19 | apparently he broke his neck while attempting to suck his own dick, RIP |
GhostB1rd
11.24.19 | Is sucking your own dick alpha or beta? |
Keyblade
11.24.19 | i'll have to ask joe rogan and get back to u |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.24.19 | He made a brief reappearance to accuse budgie of being a homophobe and I told him to kill himself so he left again |
sixdegrees
11.24.19 | lol |
GhostB1rd
11.24.19 | budgie is more homo than homophobe tbh |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.24.19 | Funny because he always rejects me and wolfes very forward advances |
GhostB1rd
11.24.19 | He doesn't want an e-boy, he wants the real deal. |
hal1ax
11.24.19 | it's alpha only if you swallow your own jiz
otherwise it's beta |
hal1ax
11.24.19 | because protein |
budgie
11.24.19 | "He made a brief reappearance to accuse budgie of being a homophobe and I told him to kill himself so he left again"
thnks bro. good lookin out |
GhostB1rd
11.24.19 | Haha, reminds me of Succession where the girl Tom got a blowjob from spit all the jizz back in his mouth after and he swallowed it.
"It's like a closed loop." |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.24.19 | The only person who nips at budgies ankles is ME |
wwf
11.24.19 | I support Cory Bookend for president |
GhostB1rd
11.24.19 | So your a Potsbrooke Welsh Corgi, are you? |
wwf
11.24.19 | somewhere someone is writing a pilot episode for Cory In the White House on the off chance Cory Booker actually wins |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.24.19 | What the frig is an e-boy btw |
GhostB1rd
11.24.19 | Now Cory "Best friend of T-Bone" Booker is definitely gay. Nobody, and I mean nobody, bought that beard. |
GhostB1rd
11.24.19 | An e-boy is an e-girl but a boy. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.24.19 | Ok follow up question what the shit is an e girl |
hal1ax
11.24.19 | i'm hankering for another Cornpop story from Biden. at least before his degenerative brain disease kills his last 96 working neurons |
GhostB1rd
11.24.19 | An e-girl is an e-boy but a girl. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.24.19 | Tertiary question... |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.24.19 | What
|
IAmScott
11.24.19 | Is that anything like an e-cig |
GhostB1rd
11.24.19 | It is not, no. |
chug73
11.24.19 | Ghost wants a big dicked goth bf |
GhostB1rd
11.24.19 | That's called projection. |
chug73
11.24.19 | "I know u are but am I" |
CaliggyJack
11.24.19 | Tulsi and Yang are the only two I give a shit about.
Realistically though, most likely Warren or Biden will take the nomination, and Trump will win a 2nd term. |
GhostB1rd
11.25.19 | Any Dem nominee legit has the same chance as Corbyn of winning in 2020. |
chug73
11.25.19 | Broke: Trump 2020
Woke: Pence 2020 |
Storm In A Teacup
11.25.19 | Caring is sharing |
sonictheplumber
11.25.19 | I don't want trump to win ofc but it's not like a candidate who believes I should be able to see a doctor will get the nom anyway so they might as well nom biden cause him debating trump will |
sonictheplumber
11.25.19 | Be fuckin funby. Sorry on phone |
sonictheplumber
11.25.19 | I hate that ghost is do active here like dude you listen to black veil fuckin brides and ur a republican can you please choke on ur moms cum |
sonictheplumber
11.25.19 | U could title every list I ever made "albums ghostturd never heard" and it'd be accurate a's hell |
unclereich
11.25.19 | sup sonic hope all is well man |
chug73
11.25.19 | It must be Saturday in the US |
wwf
11.25.19 | I support Joe Bidet for president |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.25.19 | Have you ever forgot to turn off the bidet before getting off? |
Wubs
11.25.19 | Joe Rogan for president |
Keyblade
11.25.19 | found chucks alt |
budgie
11.25.19 | yooooooo sonic |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.25.19 | Joe rogan is like the poster boy for twenty something year old men who are one tindr rejection away from moving back in with their mom and joining the military |
IAmScott
11.25.19 | Joe Rogan is one of the most useless humans ever. It's sad that above all things he considers himself a comedian because that's easily what he sucks at the most |
chug73
11.25.19 | B-b-but did u know that...like...we...are...like apes? |
chug73
11.25.19 | He is very popular among dudes who don't read much but want to listen to people who may read a lot.
Usually, they consider themselves kinda politically red-pilled or are pseudo Libertarian but they are always lame as shit.
Also, fat guys who love MMA and can't fight for shit and always talk about "oh, silva's technique was way off man" LOVE his MMA shows. |
Keyblade
11.25.19 | I wonder if anyone has watched his Netflix comedy special, TRIGGERED |
IAmScott
11.25.19 | Lol holy shit that's what it's called? What a joke of a human |
Keyblade
11.25.19 | no joke
to be fair, he's one of like 10 different over 40 dudes on there with that exact schtick |
budgie
11.25.19 | "I wonder if anyone has watched his Netflix comedy special, TRIGGERED"
...is he the reason for the massive cookie cutter population of ENLIGHTENED CENTRISTS.? |
chug73
11.25.19 | pseudo libertarians who are too busy watching MMA to read Rothbard or Friedman but will listen to some techbro on Roganstein be like "yeah man we just to remember that we are like a private platform n shit" |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.25.19 | As if bigoted liberal and alt right sheep arent just as cookie cutter as the "ENLIGHTENED CENTRISTS" that piss them off so much |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.25.19 | Honestly any lib that gets butthurt that there are people who dont 100% conform to their worldview is just as retarded as the assholes they rally against straight up |
chug73
11.25.19 | "Hey, man. Don't call them Liberals! It gives us Boomer Liberals a bad name....they are L3fTiSTS"
|
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.25.19 | Ftr, seems to me that most people who actually pay attention to rogan are pretty conservative |
budgie
11.25.19 | sorry 4 triggering u pots |
chug73
11.25.19 | Seriously, I could write all day how much I dislike Roganstein, his band of fat, MMA loving wannabes and the cult he has around him of famous ppl who are desperate to get seen on his show. |
Relinquished
11.25.19 | HAIL SATAN 2020 |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.25.19 | You made me roll my eyes at most |
Relinquished
11.25.19 | to be fuckin honest, if you have such strong feelings for a podcast personality, like how nerds have strong feelings for needledroppedonhead, I think you gotta re-evaluate yourself |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.25.19 | Dont project your own political sensitivity on me budge pudge, weve all seen how many times I've made you lose your mind by even just sarcastically calling you a fascist |
chug73
11.25.19 | Because my workplace is filled with his acolytes and it's all they talk about. |
chug73
11.25.19 | Also, I have met Melon and he is kind of a prick |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.25.19 | @wolfe true, I think Rogan is a clown and love to poke fun at him but I have a couple close friends that like him and I cant say I really give a fuck |
Keyblade
11.25.19 | man, u couldn't catch me dead talking about politics at work |
Keyblade
11.25.19 | can't stop thinking about the louder with crowder mug I saw at the coffee machine |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.25.19 | Haha my work consists of exactly 3 people including myself and all 3 of us think Trudeau is a retard so it's fine here |
chug73
11.25.19 | I don't. But people will try and rope you into some stupid conversation about it.
For some reason, people who listen to Rogan (3-hour podcasts, no thank u) will talk on the topic he does but with none of the understanding. It's because of Rogan that they are even aware of these topics (not a bad thing per se) but they tend to treat him as a primary source on those things.
As I said before, they won't bother to do any of the actual reading or anything. It's just easier to say "FrEe SpEeEEECH goOD, ComMuNism bAd" or some nonsense like that.
|
Keyblade
11.25.19 | yea that's not good. it's not like those 3 hrs are particularly informative, it's just dudes shooting the shit. ppl think listening to a podcast is enough to be informed |
Relinquished
11.25.19 | that same generalization you do on your co-workers is no different |
chug73
11.25.19 | Break times are when his fans congregate and perhaps talk on MMA, which I know nothing about because I'm not gay or from the South.
It's always about technique or some shit, "That choke hold had bad form man" the fat guy who drinks a 6 pack of beer every night after work will say like he actually fights every week.
It's like a passive way of being seen as someone more cultured or masculine. |
chug73
11.25.19 | "that same generalization you do on your co-workers is no different"
Yeah, but I know my coworkers via working with them Rel. I could care less who people I don't know listen to |
Sinternet
11.25.19 | too bad we don't have the esteemed moderator of the official joe rogan discord here to weigh in on this matter |
chug73
11.25.19 | I got banned from that discord for spam. Someone gave me an invite and it was such a gay place. |
Sinternet
11.25.19 | gay as in good gay like lets talk about the latest drag race episode and rank actors by the length and/or girth of their dicks or bad gay like techbros obsessing over physiques they will never achieve and pretending to understand women whilst getting rejected three times a week |
chug73
11.25.19 | Both tbh sin |
Sinternet
11.25.19 | well i cant lie, drag race is pretty great |
chug73
11.25.19 | It was full of MMA and techbro larpers.
Best ban ever.
|
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.25.19 | Lmao sint
Did u watch uk drag race? |
budgie
11.25.19 | ""That choke hold had bad form man" the fat guy who drinks a 6 pack of beer every night after work"
this is lol |
chug73
11.25.19 | You know I'm right Budgie |
Sinternet
11.25.19 | i am ashamed to say i have not yet, im still so far behind on the original series. but i usually binge it with my friends back home when im down there. |
chug73
11.25.19 | I do not have a Chug hot take for Ru Paul.
The thread rejoices |
chug73
11.25.19 | Is there a UK drag race?
Is it just like the US one but with more "haha slay queen innit mate" |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.25.19 | Sint it's pretty good, short but sweet and one of the best snatch games OAT |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.25.19 | @chug ya and ru and michelle making bad British jokes constantly |
chug73
11.25.19 | If we got one for my country I would legit watch it.
"Fuckin slay cunt" |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.25.19 | Hahaha same hard |
budgie
11.25.19 | yeah chug i can picture it easily
|
chug73
11.25.19 | Slay queen eh?
idk I'm not familiar with leaf slang |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.25.19 | Haha I meant I'd watch an australian version. |
chug73
11.25.19 | Y E E T
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/aug/26/rupauls-drag-race-australia-tv-phenomenon-coming-to-say-shantay-gday |
Wubs
11.26.19 | Dang people sure love to whine about Joe ahaha. Perhaps a drag president would restore hope in that bloated country. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.26.19 | Katya Zamo for president |
IAmScott
11.26.19 | I just want Hillary to run again because it would be undeniably hysterical for Hillary and Trump to face off a second time. |
ArsMoriendi
11.26.19 | I still want Bernie |
GhostB1rd
11.26.19 | Of course you do. |
ArsMoriendi
11.26.19 | He was the best option last time and he's the best time time
If he runs next election he'll be the best option the third time probably |
GhostB1rd
11.26.19 | Ars what is a 1040? |
ArsMoriendi
11.26.19 | A tax return form |
chug73
11.26.19 | Have u heard of this guy called donald trump. I hear he likes America |
chug73
11.26.19 | Do my taxes ghost |
ArsMoriendi
11.26.19 | I hear he's cheating on America with both Russia and The Ukraine
|
GhostB1rd
11.26.19 | Doing tax returns is chump work. You don't even make 1K for going through a big box of someone's shit and them having weeks of follow up with you about their stupid attempts at deductions.
I leave that to the CPAs. |
GhostB1rd
11.26.19 | My point is Ars is on the "muh free shit" train cause he don't pay a damn thing. |
budgie
11.26.19 | "He was the best option last time and he's the best time time"
[2][3][4][5]
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unclereich
11.26.19 | Seriously, I could write all day how much I dislike Roganstein, his band of fat, MMA loving wannabes and the cult he has around him of famous ppl who are desperate to get seen on his show.
[2] |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.26.19 | Bernie
The best time time |
Relinquished
11.26.19 | can't wait for the white house to pull a weekend at bernie's once he keels in office
at least they can't run with all corrupt with him cuz of his image |
ShadowRemains
11.26.19 | anyone but Trump 2020 |
unclereich
11.26.19 | haha make this happen |
Josh D.
11.26.19 | I hope it’s, uh, more like Eight Years at Bernie’s if you know what I am saying |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.26.19 | He'll be awfully rotten by the end of that |
Josh D.
11.26.19 | Half of them will be tbh |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | rogans not a bad guy but his influence is kinda bizarre, same with peterson. i mean i didnt have a father either but the difference is i was encouraged to read books so i understand that philosophy existed before these men...and most of the dudes watchin jre just dont fuckin know that |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | reason i mention the father thing is cause joe and jordan peterson have become father figures for a lot of white dudes my age. and i mean hey if youve never seen a smart person before, if you dunno joseph campbell and carl jung, a lot of the shit peterson is saying probably sounds profound as fuck, that sorta word salad he peddles |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | joe at his core i think really has no opinions about politics beyond loving weed but its kinda like his comedy - he's not naturally funny, he "mastered" an act that makes him a ton of dough and he's surrounded himself with funny people (not his lameass standup friends who are on the show, but i mean just doing comedy for 30 years and bumping elbows with greats). well joe isnt naturally intelligent either, but he's kinda absorbing bits and pieces of the "smart" people who come on his show. i think its one reason he kinda agrees with anything anyone says, unless you badmouth weed or guns at least |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | i mean i hate to sound insane but it does say a lot about the state of things that these guys are the goddamn philosophers of the day lol like what the fuck man do they really not teach anything in school? you can learn about life from a fuckin steely dan song than jocko fuckin willink tellin you to quit bein a homo |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | ghostb1rd you dont pay fucking shit in taxes man you get all your money back IF you even have a job and i know this because you have to be 16 goddamn years old to have your shitty ass taste in music you fuckin piece of crap |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | also to everyone involved in this thread, spare me the "both sides are the same" pseudo-woke shit |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | also dude i wouldnt put it past hillary to fuckin run again, she's a true fuckin psychopath of the highest order and im sure shes got her fingers crossed that ol sleepy joe will get caught on tape callin someone a porch monkey so she can swoop in and "save the day" aka lose again |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.27.19 | who ever said they were the same |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | i mean basically if youre in the usa you are fucked no matter what happens, you will never be able to see a doctor without goin fuckin bankrupt, the dnc have the exact same goal as the republicans and theyll push a fuckin corporatist warmongering fuckhead like they always fuckin do. in that sense "both sides" are the same but usually when some tard says that they mean like "opposing racism makes you just as closeminded as a racist!" or some nonsense, i mean dude we live in fuck ass times |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | im probably just making assumptions because i know this site is retards, you better believe i did not read this whole fuckin thread lol |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.27.19 | "usually when some tard says that they mean like "opposing racism makes you just as closeminded as a racist!" or some nonsense"
i really dont think anyone thinks that tbh and im a huge cynic and think everyone is shit |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.27.19 | lol yeah word. |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | well im exaggin for effect but i genuinely know people irl who are more upset at the people protesting nazis than they are that nazis are being taken seriously again |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | like to me the dreadlocked malnourished transgender kid who brings a sign to a richard spencer rally is a lot better than richard spencer, even if he's "rude" |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | you have to remember i live in the american south where casual racism has always been pretty standard and since trump came along people are not at all shy about how they feel anymore. it gets genuinely uncomfortable for me at times reading the shit my old classmates say on fb, and pots you know im someone who used to fucking openly say the n word on this very website back in like 2013 |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | and im not at all saying trump is solely responsible for the shit but he's definitely made it a hell of a lot better to spout bullshit because these people know the fuckin president has their back now |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | tbf i think biden might have even more archaic views which makes it even funnier that the dnc and corporate media continue to push the guy as the "pragmatic way we can get the racist out of the white house." at least trump knows how to bullshit properly |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | lets get this bad boy to 1000 comments |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | but yeah anyway my prediction is as always...any candidate who supports healthcare gets the boot by the dnc bigwigs, they nom biden, they lose :P |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.27.19 | oh i get you. i think our generation does a whole lot of knee jerking and not a lot of actually listening though and i think the gripe that a lot of people have isn't that there are people "protesting nazis", it's that they feel certain attitudes, tactics and behaviours our gen displays are counter-productive to snuffing that resurgence of white nationalism out, or have even added fuel to the dumpster fire in some cases. |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | its possible theyll nom warren since she's kinda like the coke zero bernie but i think she'll lose too |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.27.19 | same goes for trump, they feel partial onus for him being in power is our gen |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | yeah i get that, its hard to really know what to do because its hard to just sit down and chat with people who would rather you be dead, but the knee jerking has turned into crazy shit like some of what the actual leftists on my fb post (not democrats but leftists) - im friends with a chick who wont jam motorhead anymore because of "fascist iconography" and "sexist lyrics." its shit like that that makes the whole plight against fascism just look completely retarded |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | like instead of cancelling marduk concerts maybe like, run a fucking candidate in a local election or something? get a bill off the ground? |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | not that i care at all about marduk i just think if youre truly against fascism your energy can go somewhere besides some arrested adolescents in kiss makeup who wear s&m outfits |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | that being said like, i get wanting to "rid the scene" of people who may be actual nazis...but most of em are just being edgy retards and dont actually want to strip you of your rights. the people who want to strip you of your rights remain in power because youre too lazy to fuckin vote |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.27.19 | exactly, and i think thats one of the only similarities people really mean, they are referring to the minority of retarded zealots on the left whose views and actions diminish the authenticity of the cause and make reasonable people look stupid |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | but now im on a tangent about my own fb feed. its like far right north georgia retards and communist memelords. no wonder my brain is fucked |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | thing is some of my own friends irl kinda dont wanna see the actual good of the cause BECAUSE of the unreasonable people, the minority of pink haired college chicks who want to like, cancel david bowie or some shit. its like even if they share certain values, they try to shy away from them because they dont wanna seem like triggered cucks or something... tbh rogans show hasnt really helped because if thats your primary source of political discussion - which it is for plenty of my buddies - you start believing the pink haired college girls are coming to rip your cock off. its crazy man |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | and i try tellin them like, no man your landlord fucks you. your boss fucks you. the pharmaceutical industry fucks you. the people on buzzfeed sayin led zeppelin is racist are just a distraction man |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | pots do you like kratom? i love this shit man. makes me talk my fuckin head off too. trying to abstain from alcohol for a bit |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | i mean i kinda overdose on the shit intentionally cause i look to get tanked 24/7 |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | oh and dude here's a hot take - i think pete buttigieg...is a closet straight guy. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.27.19 | I know what u mean re: the distractions stuff. And I've only tried kratom once when I was young so I dont have much of an opinion |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | the sedative strains are sweet man but they kill your damn dick |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | but hey you know if you cant use your dick for a few days you just cum harder when you cum again |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | oh yeah i do wanna say it is a hardcore bummer that tulsi gabbard is ridiculed and called a russian op just for opposing war lol |
Valkoor952
11.27.19 | it's a hardcore bummer that Tulsi Gabbard doesn't have any charisma whatsoever and can't truly stand up to the DNC and the other candidates because she's so robotic and monotonous, nobody can make himself care about what she says |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | Yeah but that's not really what people should vote for lol. If a good show is what you like, please vote trump there's no better spectacle |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | But ya she's stiff as a corpse and can really only relax on podcasts and shit |
Valkoor952
11.27.19 | "Yeah but that's not really what people should vote for lol. If a good show is what you like, please vote trump there's no better spectacle"
*should* vote for
It doesn't matter what they should vote for. It matters what they vote for and how they decide who to vote for. Thinking that voters in 2019 base most of their decisions on in-depth policy reviews of each candidate is ludicrous. Elections are a reality show, a pageant of sorts. If you are not charismatic, energetic, show leadership and have complete conviction and confidence then you won't get far, it doesn't matter if you have the greatest platform policy wise. You need to appeal to voter's emotions more than their intellect because the majority get affected primarily by the former |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | See I said what I said because it sounded like you were saying YOU are one of the idiots who only looks at charisma lol |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | Charisma or not she's at least stirring up some shit |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | And man with all due respect... I live here. I'm under no illusions about what turns on the electorate. And no one's immune to a good performance |
ConcubinaryCode
11.27.19 | I think the worst part of the recent elections is that for the last 2 decades all the candidates are complete losers. |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | Nader is a hero |
Josh D.
11.27.19 | damn, I go to sleep and sonic swoops in and hits all the nails on the head.
And there's only one cure, vote for him, you assholes |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | :D thanks bro been saying it since 2015 |
budgie
11.27.19 | yeah nader has been solid always. shame |
Zorg
11.27.19 | lol at anyone taking Richard Spencer seriously.
Also, it'll be between Warren and Biden (unless Bloomberg ends up being a viable candidate with all that money).
I like Yang and Tulsi though.
At the end of it all though, bombs will still drop on Muslim countries, aid will still go to Israel and Americans will still be fucked. |
Sinternet
11.27.19 | tulsi, supporter of modi and the indian fascists |
butt.
11.27.19 | im writing in Bush as usual |
Josh D.
11.27.19 | lmao at thinking Bloomberg has a shot... more likely he’ll split centrist votes for Biden et al. and it will benefit Bernie. So more power to him |
budgie
11.27.19 | i think bloomberg excites disinterested conservatives who have been pushed toward the "eft" since the disgraceful blowout of bush's iraq. so yeah, i think he will take centrist votes from biden in agreement
in short: my extended family |
sonictheplumber
11.27.19 | I know a guy who's legit writing in dick cheney |
butt.
11.27.19 | is "penis envy" a presidential candidate? |
Josh D.
11.27.19 | It rules that billionaires throw away a bunch of money on these races for their vanity instead of fixing problems with that money. |
IAmScott
11.27.19 | I bet Trump is full of penis envy, having a mushroom dick and all |
Keyblade
11.27.19 | "It rules that billionaires throw away a bunch of money on these races for their vanity instead of fixing problems with that money."
not even all that much money. politicians are cheap as hell, a couple hundred thousand dollars and they're gucci |
Relinquished
11.27.19 | give them a quarter of that and they'll lie in public for you |
ConcubinaryCode
11.28.19 | Yeah, remember the net neutrality thing? Some people voted to support the appeal for like 100k. |
chug73
11.28.19 | Tulsi hot tho |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.28.19 | did u guys kno that budgie is the bike lock bandit |
sixdegrees
11.28.19 | Who's that |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.28.19 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muoR8Td44UE&list=LL8jryDe2y8y23mO3hcwaJGg&index=243 |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.28.19 | poor guy just wanted to bash some fasch, now he's on the run. no wonder he cut his man bun off |
budgie
11.28.19 | big boy in vancouver doesnt much need to consider where his taxes been going |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.28.19 | small boy in california has no clue what goes on in british columbia clearly |
budgie
11.28.19 | nasty cunt in california doesn't give a fuck in what's the what in who-cares-vancouver |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.28.19 | if you smashed as much gash as you bash facsh i'd be aghast |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.28.19 | budgie "nasty cunt" facsh-basher |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.28.19 | that should be your bm name |
sixdegrees
11.28.19 | I am the bike lock bandit |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.28.19 | ur more like the dude who kept yelling "hiter did nothing wrong" at shia lequeefs "he will not divide us" installation |
budgie
11.28.19 | lorde "i on'y listen to music if it's expedient" potes tellin us up today |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.28.19 | now thats what i call ironic |
JohnnyoftheWell
11.28.19 | iconic
what's new |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.28.19 | *nasty cunt fasch-basher added burzum to the queue* |
sonictheplumber
11.28.19 | Tulsi please fart in my face |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.28.19 | Sonic I have disturbing news for u ghost is 30 and has a real person career I know I was shocked too |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.28.19 | There clearly is no god |
wutang4ever
11.28.19 | Tulsi. She supports abor... marijuana legalization. |
Meridiu5
11.28.19 | Ill paypal you twenty bucks if you start a conversation about Drumpf at the holiday table. Guaranteed golden conversation topic |
wutang4ever
11.28.19 | Sounds like one boring, expensive way to be bored. |
sixdegrees
12.01.19 | i will paypal meriudius 20 bucks if he can prove that anyone in his family still talks to him |
CaliggyJack
12.01.19 | Who will win? Probably Trump.
Who do I want as President? Yang or Gabbard. |
GhostB1rd
12.01.19 | Cuck. |
JohnnyoftheWell
12.01.19 | Schtifk |
hal1ax
12.01.19 | bloomberg 2020!!!!1!! |
budgie
12.01.19 | no way trump is going to win |
hal1ax
12.01.19 | proof that bloomberg will win
https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-bush-cheney-campaign-adviser-134559552.html |
GhostB1rd
12.01.19 | I'm sorry, I don't read fake news. |
CaliggyJack
12.01.19 | Bloomberg is gonna hijack Super Tuesday for an easy win, then lose to Trump because nobody takes him seriously. |
GhostB1rd
12.01.19 | I'd vote for Giuliani. |
zaruyache
12.01.19 | most people wouldn't admit to being total psychopaths so kudos for having the guts to say it out loud ghost |
CaliggyJack
12.01.19 | Zaru did you vote for Hillary? |
sonictheplumber
12.02.19 | Pussybird deleted his comment lol. I reported you but deviant denied me cause of bias. Typical crapola |
conesmoke
12.02.19 | SHOTGUN |
conesmoke
12.02.19 | I shotgunned the presidency. Y’all saw it first here on Sputnik |
conesmoke
12.02.19 | It actually might be mine now. In line with shotgun rules. |
conesmoke
12.02.19 | Probably fairer than the whole 2016 caimbridge analytica mass mind-rape fiasco of an election |
conesmoke
12.02.19 | It certainly is weird watching Batman forever play out IRL |
sonictheplumber
12.02.19 | Fartin? |
conesmoke
12.02.19 | Yeah soz, sharted errywhere |
BallsToTheWall
12.02.19 | Ice-T is the only option. |
Ebola
12.02.19 | bernie gonna win |
BallsToTheWall
12.02.19 | Who’s gonna die first, Bernie or Ozzy? |
Relinquished
12.02.19 | lmao now THAT's a bet |
Ebola
12.02.19 | both will outlive us |
GhostB1rd
12.03.19 | zaru I'm totally serious about Giuliani |
JoeTex
12.03.19 | kamala calls it quits |
sonictheplumber
12.04.19 | Cunt |
budgie
12.04.19 | yeah ebolaaaaaa |
GhostB1rd
12.04.19 | sonic has never actually met a woman before. |
conesmoke
12.04.19 | Not one that stayed a woman anyway |
CaliggyJack
12.04.19 | Fucking thank Christ Kamala is gone. What a witch that woman. |
GhostB1rd
12.04.19 | Is Booker still in or have those racists in the Democrat party chased away all the blacks again? |
Meridiu5
12.04.19 | booker's campaign is bankrupt. they don't even need to chase him away |
CaliggyJack
12.04.19 | https://nypost.com/2019/12/03/liberals-rage-over-all-white-democratic-debate-stage-after-kamala-harris-bows-out/
Apparently Andrew Yang is white. |
GhostB1rd
12.04.19 | Your own link says Yang isn't qualified for the debate. |
CaliggyJack
12.04.19 | I just found out that a poll that both Tulsi and Yang received wins from was arbitrarily deemed no-longer considered by the DNC so now neither are qualified despite being qualified at the end of November. |
budgie
12.04.19 | dnc some neoliberal dicksicking cuntfaces |
Zorg
12.04.19 | Booker and Copmala were terrible and didn't even poll well among blacks compared to Biden. |
butt.
12.04.19 | i hope booker drops out next |
Zorg
12.04.19 | He's definitely not viable. It really is a four-person thing at this point, Warren/Sanders/Biden/Buttigieg...so yeah it is going to be #primariessowhite, but that's who they got. Buttigieg will win Iowa, but I still see Biden getting SC and then picking up big on Super Tuesday and on to the nomination. |
wwf
12.04.19 | I support Mike Breitbart for president |
budgie
12.04.19 | if bernie/warren pollers could consolidate their votes into one candidate progressives could take the primary... is warren going to drop out for bernie? what the fuck is buttigieg doing. stop running. |
wwf
12.04.19 | Buttigieg winning Iowa is hardly a sure thing |
butt.
12.04.19 | buttigieg's numbers have only gone up over past couple months. he aint going anywhere |
Zorg
12.04.19 | Not a chance Warren is dropping out for Bernie, I'm sure she hopes it's the other way around (him dropping out and her scooping up his supporters). But whichever of them loses New Hampshire should drop out.
Buttigieg is surging, but I have no idea why. I think he must appeal to white women or something...I can't think of any other demographic that wouldn't find him anything other than cringe. Also, Iowa just seems like a weird place. |
Josh D.
12.04.19 | Really shouldn't be investing in polls. Around this time for the 2012 election, Herman Cain was leading. |
Josh D.
12.04.19 | "I can't think of any other demographic that wouldn't find him anything other than cringe"
liberals that are only socially progressive. Neoliberal, professional types. And yes, white. |
wwf
12.04.19 | does literally anyone in this thread support anyone that's not Bernie?
show yourselves! |
Josh D.
12.04.19 | Feel it, baby. |
Josh D.
12.04.19 | I don't want to erase Pete's non-white supporters, so I'll rephrase: mostly white. His campaign literally faked black support in multiple ways and got caught! Like a week ago! |
Zorg
12.04.19 | "liberals that are only socially progressive. Neoliberal, professional types. And yes, white."
True, I also think Buttigieg is trying to position himself as a sane and stable candidate. His debate performances have been solid (though nothing special) and he avoids the socialist label that Warren and Sanders get and the senility of Biden by being young. I think some are looking at him as a return to a stable and less crazy and divisive politics. Though, I don't think there is any going back of course. |
Prancer
12.04.19 | I'm a Yang ganger |
budgie
12.04.19 | " But whichever of them loses New Hampshire should drop out."
isn't sanders polling wildly over warren in NH? naturally? |
Zorg
12.04.19 | "isn't sanders polling wildly over warren in NH? naturally?"
Yeah, I think so but am not sure...which makes me think, where's Warren going to win the primaries? I see her getting a lot of second-place finishes. |
Relinquished
12.04.19 | bootygig seems like he'll be manipulated easy |
budgie
12.04.19 | "liberals that are only socially progressive. Neoliberal, professional types. And yes, white."
yeah this is the situation, i think. socially fashionable, economically liberal (right) dudes |
butt.
12.04.19 | "I can't think of any other demographic that wouldn't find him anything other than cringe"
huh? I've hardly seen anything cringey from him? He's a super smart young dude who is well-spoken and would be 1000% better than trump, so I have a hard time knocking the guy. He can come off a little robotic, but not every person is going to be Corey "Spartacus" Booker with over the top personality |
budgie
12.04.19 | "where's Warren going to win the primaries? I see her getting a lot of second-place finishes. "
i think her silver bullet is moderate republicans in the midwest. which is fine, lol |
Zorg
12.04.19 | "huh? I've hardly seen anything cringey from him? He's a super smart young dude who is well-spoken and would be 1000% better than trump, so I have a hard time knocking the guy. He can come off a little robotic, but not every person is going to be Corey "Spartacus" Booker with over the top personality"
Maybe it was just the Panic! At the Disco dance... |
butt.
12.04.19 | My top three right now are:
1. Pete - very sharp, has realistic policies, not a socialist, has age and agility his side
2. Bernie - love his passion and track record, talks too much about jeff bezos, very old, too left leaning to ever accomplish things with bipartisan support
3. Warren - a slightly younger and female version of bernie, would make a great president, but also a bit too left-leaning to be effective |
Josh D.
12.04.19 | Ugh, that fucking dance.
Another way I think about it is that Pete supporters for the most part don’t have as much skin in the game. As in, they are people that can afford incremental, if any, changes. This, as opposed to working class, people of color, LGBT community, etc. that have been left behind by conservative and neoliberal economic policies |
wwf
12.04.19 | Buttigieg speaks fluent corporate speak not a fan |
CaliggyJack
12.04.19 | I'm a Republican, but if Tulsi or Yang make the nomination I'll vote for them in a heartbeat. Two of the best candidates this country has had since Rose Perot. |
Josh D.
12.04.19 | Also, no military in the White House please |
wwf
12.04.19 | @caliggy That's an interesting hot take, like genuinely. What draws you to Yang? |
Josh D.
12.04.19 | Bad take |
Zorg
12.04.19 | UBI. I think it could work and Yang is very genuine I feel. But Yang and Tulsi feel kind of like the DNCs version of Ron Paul from the 00s...as in they don't have a shot. |
Josh D.
12.04.19 | Also, strictly as a candidate, not how his presidency shaped out; Obama is probably the best candidate/politician of my lifetime. He was just a letdown. |
Zorg
12.04.19 | It's the system. Everyone will be masticated by the system and spit out onto the presidency as a neo-liberal drone striking shell of who they really were. |
budgie
12.04.19 | 1. Pete - not a socialist,
like, what do you even mean by this. i don't know if it's even worth bringing this up |
wwf
12.04.19 | Obama's charisma is still, to this day, kind of a double-edged sword for the left, yeah. He's the reason fucking Joe Biden is polling so high and so consistently despite embarrassing himself literally every day
The sooner the democrats stops treating the Obama era as 'the good old days' the better |
Zorg
12.04.19 | Means he won't take away people's private insurance lol |
budgie
12.04.19 | "That's an interesting hot take, like genuinely. What draws you to Yang?" even right wing economists understand UBI is good stimulation. any republican should be happy with yang, considering UBI is his principal running point lol. which, again, is fine, whatever. |
budgie
12.04.19 | "Means he won't take away people's private insurance lol"
if we look past the point of state funded health care having very little if nothing to do with socialism, even "socialist" countries in europe have both private and public health care. you can opt into private if you want to pay. |
CaliggyJack
12.04.19 | As I said, I'm not arguing for their potential to win the primaries. All I am saying is, if either of those two somehow got the nomination, I'd vote Blue for once. |
Josh D.
12.04.19 | lol yeah, let’s trust right wing anything, let alone economists |
Josh D.
12.04.19 | M4A or bust. Fuck everything else |
wwf
12.04.19 | but have you considered bernie 👴 |
butt.
12.04.19 | "This, as opposed to working class, people of color, LGBT community, etc. that have been left behind by conservative and neoliberal economic policies"
yes, I'm sure Pete Buttigieg, a gay man, has no care for LGBT and will let them simply fall further behind |
Zorg
12.04.19 | Well, in American politics socialism is the equivalent of how Orwell saw the word fascist. I mean, technically mixed market economies (like those European ones) aren't really socialist at all...at least in the Marxist sense. The word is just a spook that works well in America |
Josh D.
12.04.19 | Recently I saw a yang supporter straight up say something like “Yang and Bernie are basically the same”, and I was like “so uhhh vote Bernie?” |
CaliggyJack
12.04.19 | Yang and Bernie are not the same lol |
budgie
12.04.19 | "lol yeah, let’s trust right wing anything, let alone economists "
so the comment was like, "even, EVEN right wing economists". |
butt.
12.04.19 | "1. Pete - not a socialist,
like, what do you even mean by this"
Bernie and Warren proudly run as democratic socialists (I get the difference - most of the country does not) and they push policies that are popular in socialist countries. I actually agree with a lot of these, to an extent, but guess what. There is NO better way to hand Trump another 4 years than to promote an agenda that closely resembles socialism. Republicans that hate trump will vote trump again. Swing voters will swing right |
Josh D.
12.04.19 | “ yes, I'm sure Pete Buttigieg, a gay man, has no care for LGBT and will let them simply fall further behind”
That may not be his intent, but if he continues neoliberal economics, which he will, LGBT exists in the working class, and POC communities, so yes, some will get left behind in that case. |
Josh D.
12.04.19 | “so the comment was like, "even, EVEN right wing economists"
Yeah I know, but even the UBI experiment was really limited, I think it was in Denmark? So I’m not trusting that anyway. YouTube search Matt Breunig talking about it. Researching stuff like UBI is all he does. |
budgie
12.04.19 | "I mean, technically mixed market economies (like those European ones) aren't really socialist at all...at least in the Marxist sense. The word is just a spook that works well in America"
it's complicated because even in the context of the 30's socialism basically changed connotation to refer to state interference in economic policy after how well stalin's quota-at-gunpoint system responded to the global recession. political nomenclature is a great steaming pile of dung and probably a reason behind ridiculous communal dissonance |
butt.
12.04.19 | "LGBT exists in the working class" what does this mean? it exists in every class. Tim Cook is an openly gay man. I'm probably just misreading the comment |
wwf
12.04.19 | I honestly don't see Buttigieg talk about LGBT issues much. He might go full Clinton and go TERF |
budgie
12.04.19 | yeah butt. i get you there, but i also never thought in a million years people would be stupid enough to vote in trump. so why can't people be smart enough to vote in someone who wants to implement some carbon taxes lol. |
butt.
12.04.19 | questions that I will never be able to answer, my dear fellow.
edit: actually it's because Trump enabled and energized a shit ton of racists and homophobes, and Hillary being the weakest democrat candidate in history didn't help |
Josh D.
12.04.19 | “ LGBT exists in the working class" what does this mean? it exists in every class. Tim Cook is an openly gay man. I'm probably just misreading the comment”
I guess I just mean someone with better economic policies in general is better for everyone, and it ain’t Pete m. |
wwf
12.04.19 | I just want to point out that *butt.* supports *butt*igieg ahaha |
butt.
12.04.19 | oh damn
it was meant to be |
Josh D.
12.04.19 | The butts are back in town |
GhostB1rd
12.05.19 | Man you lot are going to be on depression watch when Trump landslides this. |
Let
12.05.19 | Shit's already depressing |
GhostB1rd
12.05.19 | You have to wait till 2024. Another half a decade. |
Let
12.05.19 | Gulp, I'll just sulk while reading critical theory |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | " i get you there, but i also never thought in a million years people would be stupid enough to vote in trump."
look who's stupid now |
budgie
12.05.19 | the people who voted for trump |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | and your dumb ass for thinking americans were smarter than that |
Let
12.05.19 | You really wanna die on that hill man? Desperate's a better word |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | nah i'll die on the "americans are fucking idiots" hill with the rest of the world thanks |
Deathconscious
12.05.19 | one pump Trump |
Let
12.05.19 | Given demagogary's general presence I think that can apply to quite a few places (good luck corbyn) |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Ya and all those places also still think americans are idiots |
sixdegrees
12.05.19 | lets ask canada's blackface pm lmao |
Deathconscious
12.05.19 | with Cheetoboy in charge of the launch codes, i can understand why they think that. |
GhostB1rd
12.05.19 | Americans are so fucking dumb with their super high gdp per capita for a diverse nation of 330+ million people and the military that is free-ridden by the entire globe. |
GhostB1rd
12.05.19 | Fucking idiots. |
CaliggyJack
12.05.19 | All countries are fucking idiots except Japan. |
budgie
12.05.19 | americans arent stupid cuz we have boms duhhh idiots
|
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | americans get really defensive when you generalise their entire populace as a bunch of idiots |
Let
12.05.19 | lol. But don't you think that's an issue? Are they stupider idiots? Granted exeptionalism in my country is pathetic and I think has had a massive part to play in America's favorite pastime of anti-intellectualism, but I think that opens the door a reactionary exceptionalism. That is, Americans are dumb as dumb can be, so as long as we don't lower the bar as much as those people, we aren't dumb like them. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | call canadians idiots idgaf i have absolutely no sense of nationalism and i know about 5 people that i think are smort |
Let
12.05.19 | GDP isn't gonna put my kids through college dude |
sixdegrees
12.05.19 | cant imagine why |
GhostB1rd
12.05.19 | America is the hot chick being negged by all the uggos who didn't even get invited to the party. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | @Let
.....
can i offer you a nice glass of warm milk |
Let
12.05.19 | Americans like populism when they've been called idiots for decades |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | prime minister black face thinks americans are idiots im pretty sure ftr |
Let
12.05.19 | That sounds nice Pots it's chilly out |
CosmicPie
12.05.19 | There's a fine line between Hodor and the Night King. Just ignore all the variables in between. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | @let damn you guys sure are victims |
sixdegrees
12.05.19 | did you vote for him |
Let
12.05.19 | ?? Who do I think I support? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | nope, not the first time or the last time |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | look im just here to ruffle some jimmies
canadians are fucking idiots too alright
just not as dumb as ghostb1rd, thats where we draw the line |
CosmicPie
12.05.19 | Didn't know you were Canadian, Pots. Pretty cool. I had a feeling you were from Baltimore. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | its not very cool |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | sometimes it is cold tho |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | "America is the hot chick being negged by all the uggos who didn't even get invited to the party."
my dad is american, i was invited to the party via dual citizenship. i wiped my ass with the invite. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | then i came for a visit just to eat the appetisers and dip |
hal1ax
12.05.19 | Lol when I first joined I figured pots was either from Baltimore or maybe Brooklyn or something. Would’ve never guessed Canada. |
Let
12.05.19 | what are people from baltimore like? like mad ornery? |
sixdegrees
12.05.19 | whats the deal with baltimore
is 'baltimore guy' a thing now |
GhostB1rd
12.05.19 | Bodymore amirite? |
hal1ax
12.05.19 | it is probably not a thing. |
sixdegrees
12.05.19 | I assumed potsy was from the pacific northwest or california when I first joined I think |
GhostB1rd
12.05.19 | I assumed Canada cause he's so angry all the time. |
butt.
12.05.19 | I assumed Ohio cause he’s so angry all the time. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | fuck both your mums right in the corpse |
GhostB1rd
12.05.19 | My "mum" is alive. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | she wont be by the time i fuck her |
JohnnyoftheWell
12.05.19 | Hi guys, just checking in to see if this thread's stil-
yup, we good |
GhostB1rd
12.05.19 | We not good. |
JohnnyoftheWell
12.05.19 | ok, lemme know when the wake starts ! |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | i bet you sing yourself the star spangled banner to sleep every night ya big dumb fuquad |
GhostB1rd
12.05.19 | Well I do own an American Flag t-shirt. |
JohnnyoftheWell
12.05.19 | That's not very pop punk of u |
GhostB1rd
12.05.19 | It is actually extremely pop punk. |
JohnnyoftheWell
12.05.19 | go write a tumblr post about it |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Gonna wipe up your moms cum with it |
Deathconscious
12.05.19 | "Well I do own an American Flag t-shirt."
Of course you do. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Who do you guys think would realistically win in a fist fight to the death, trump or trudeau |
JohnnyoftheWell
12.05.19 | Is this a fair fight / who owns the ring? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | It's a fair fight, and it's in a mud pit and they both are wearing suits and ties |
JohnnyoftheWell
12.05.19 | is Trudeau allowed a chocolate bar? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | No it would be too distracting |
JohnnyoftheWell
12.05.19 | Ok in that case he probably wins. Trump ain't got no stamina and he'd get twitter withdrawal |
hal1ax
12.05.19 | is trudeau allowed blackface??? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Well hes not allowed to bring makeup but they are in a mud pit so I cant really stop him from getting creative on that front... |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Yeah but Johnny let's not forget that Trudeau is the biggest softboi on the entire fucking planet |
hal1ax
12.05.19 | hm that's a tough one |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | I feel like trumps stamina sucks for sure but I'm pretty sure if he could just get his tiny little hands on Trudeau and get him on the ground Trudeau would be fucked |
JohnnyoftheWell
12.05.19 | didn't trudeau used to actually box tho? all softbois are about i n s t i n c t, so if his muscle memory is there... |
GhostB1rd
12.05.19 | Of course Adolf would be a sadboi who doesn't wear American garb on July 4th. |
hal1ax
12.05.19 | i mean trump prob has 40+ pounds on him easy, but it's just purely comprised of Filet-o-Fish's and McFlurries so it might not be very advantageous in a fight. unless he can just smother him in his fat |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | @johnny i dunno probably, seems like the type of twat to take a few boxing lessons and call himself a boxer for sure |
hal1ax
12.05.19 | trudeau used to box? you sure you're not thinking of performative dance? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | @hal1 true but i just really have a feeling in my gut that trudeau is such a fucking coward ass posh-boi that he'd have a mental break in a fight and like cry for daddy trudeau |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | like wasn't he also a drama kid? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | now PUTIN would absolutely crush them both and i'd watch the fuck out of it. trudeau AND trump vs putin fuk yeah baby |
JohnnyoftheWell
12.05.19 | watch your words y'all: https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/53844q/five-years-ago-today-justin-trudeau-beat-the-shit-out-of-a-senator
"like wasn't he also a drama kid?"
drama kids are savage when worked up, don't poke the bear ;]
|
JohnnyoftheWell
12.05.19 | There are very few leaders Putin wouldn't annihilate. Rodrigo Duterte and maybe Shinzo Abe hmm |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Putin, Duterte and Abe vs wave after wave of frumpy world leaders |
JohnnyoftheWell
12.05.19 | I feel Macron would be a solid coach but useless in the arena |
Let
12.05.19 | Duterte is a beta |
GhostB1rd
12.05.19 | I feel like Trump would have deceptive endurance. Like he'd just keep going at a reasonable pace forever. |
JohnnyoftheWell
12.05.19 | That's the climate change deniers' line |
Let
12.05.19 | real talk |
EnyaFangirl
12.05.19 | biden vs trump is gonna be like Ali vs. Frazier. the Battle of Broken Brains. the Sundowner Showdown. the Duel of the Dullards. you get what i'm sayin |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | "Duterte is a beta"
he'd fuck u up zeta-boi |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | "I feel like Trump would have deceptive endurance. Like he'd just keep going at a reasonable pace forever."
get a fucking room jesus |
RolyPoly
12.05.19 | Joe "I love when kids touch my leg hair and sit on my lap" biden |
hal1ax
12.05.19 | yo putin is terrifying. fuckin deadpan kgb eyes |
Deathconscious
12.05.19 | "Of course Adolf would be a sadboi who doesn't wear American garb on July 4th."
Or ever. |
Deathconscious
12.05.19 | "I feel like Trump would have deceptive endurance. Like he'd just keep going at a reasonable pace forever."
Fanboi detected. He looks like he could have a heart attack at any moment, he looks unhealthy as fuck. Endurance my ass. |
butt.
12.05.19 | i definitely sport american garb on the 4th and sing lee greenwood, sometimes it just be like that. but only on that day |
sonictheplumber
12.05.19 | pete buttigieg isnt even gay he's a poser like obama and booker
yall know booker is white right? look into it |
sonictheplumber
12.05.19 | ghostbird dude you are a supreme fuckin piece of cum bro. sittin here sharin your fairy ass fantasies of trump thats fuckin sick man. if i ever met you you'd be seein stars pretty damn quickly and i dont mean becuz im sputnik famous you little fuck |
EnyaFangirl
12.05.19 | hello. I'm gay mayor Pete Buttigieg. Pronounced Boot Edge Edge, I'm also gay, and I shoot children. Now watch me eat this corndog and do the High Hopes dance on the haters. |
Relinquished
12.05.19 | imagine being 6'3" and wanting to slog trumps dong |
sonictheplumber
12.05.19 | we need woke drones. we missed our chance at the first female drone strikes in 2016 so lets get some gay phallic bombs |
hal1ax
12.05.19 | On November 4th millions of Antifa supersoldiers will behead all white parents and small business owners in the town square. |
Deathconscious
12.05.19 | Quick, stop lifting weights and become a cuck, they might spare you. |
GhandhiLion
12.05.19 | Just a moment of praxis :^] |
Sinternet
12.05.19 | more homosexual ICE officers *clap emojis* |
EnyaFangirl
12.05.19 | cocaine is prax-iss |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Ghost wants trumps stump |
Relinquished
12.05.19 | and his small lumps |
sonictheplumber
12.05.19 | you know what they say about small hands |
EnyaFangirl
12.05.19 | he has definitely raped children on Epstein island |
EnyaFangirl
12.05.19 | gotta say though calling Trudeau two-faced is his most subtle and nuanced insult to date. guy absolutely has two faces: one white and one black |
Deathconscious
12.05.19 | Didnt he also pardon a war criminal as the four men who came out to expose him are now being charged? Trump2020 |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Yeah well our pm ate a chocolate bar and took an illegal vacation. Fucking monster |
budgie
12.05.19 | "Didnt he also pardon a war criminal as the four men who came out to expose him are now being charged?"
the implications of this are fucking revolting. don't worry about war crimes boys the president will pardon us he's on our side boys let's kill all these motherfuckers |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Are you revolted by the implications budgie |
budgie
12.05.19 | really should just hang all trump supporters and get this over with |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Why hang them when u can do em a punch |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | I guess targetted acts of violence arent as satisfying as a good ol fashioned lynching |
budgie
12.05.19 | bc i dont want to touch them |
budgie
12.05.19 | get their grimy nazi grease on me |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | ~nazi~ |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Do you have any Jewish ancestors budge pudge? |
budgie
12.05.19 | not that i know of
father side is bretonne
mother side american irish immigrants
BRETAGNEEEEEEE ✅✅✅✅✅✅✅ |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Yeah word I can tell by how negligently you toss around the word 'nazi' |
budgie
12.05.19 | the breton flag isn't an emoji yet? shame, shame shame shame |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Side note: U know what groups of people used to get lynched in the states a lot? |
budgie
12.05.19 | fuck off pots im too tired to deal with your dumbfuckery right now |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | White men discussing lynching people is a good look |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Ur such an insensitive problematic person |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Budge pudge vs ghost bird in a gladiator match to the death who would win |
GhostB1rd
12.05.19 | Dude I'm 6'4" / 235-240 it would be a slaughter.
Budgie is prolly 4'10" and has a midget handicap decal. |
JohnnyoftheWell
12.05.19 | ghost how good are you at tying shoelaces? |
budgie
12.05.19 | probably not very |
JohnnyoftheWell
12.05.19 | i smell velcro
budgie you'd better play the arena |
GhostB1rd
12.05.19 | I'll have you know I can put palms on the ground while standing straight.
Suck it. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Ghostbird grows an inch every time you bring up his height |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Every tall guy I've met who is actually tough as nails is super chill and modest tho doesnt bode well for ghost |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Plus budgie probably has a stash of molotov cocktails hidden up his ass right next to his bandana at all times |
StarlessCore
12.05.19 | potsy just be lumpin all us mericans together
ur country cant even keep up with weed demand goofy! |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Yeah so canada is fuckin gay m8 |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | It's just funny that americans spend all of their time whining about how shit it is there but as soon as anyone else is like "lol ya totes" they are like *pikachu face* |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.05.19 | Back to pressing matters, budgie isnt called Nasty Cunt the Fasch Basher for nothin, bet ghost doesn't even have a street name |
GhostB1rd
12.06.19 | I mean, if you wanna get realfuckintechnicalupinthisbih then I'm 6'3.5" barefoot. But who rounds down? Nobody. So I'm 6'4". |
GhostB1rd
12.06.19 | Also it's primarily Democrats who are the "Yo America roflcopter we suck sooo hard sorry guys we're all retarded" crew. Don't tar the rest of us with that brush. |
GhostB1rd
12.06.19 | Having said that, the whole "Make America Great Again" slogan is lame as hell for that very reason. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.06.19 | Well you and the Democrats have one thing in common and that's getting butthurt when other countries call YALL stupid |
GhostB1rd
12.06.19 | I mean, they cheer that shit so I don't know what you're talking about. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.06.19 | Yeah they cheer that YOUR type a murican are stupid ghost. But when an outsider is like no, no unall dumb that's when they get suspiciously patriotic all a sudden |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.06.19 | Then they are like no YOU r dumb and everyone else is like idgaf I'm cold |
GhostB1rd
12.06.19 | Canadians are always cold and until Americans invented fire you had to hunker down in little huts like savages for 10 months of the year. You should be more grateful. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.06.19 | "Americans invented fire" is the most trump thing you've said all hour |
GhostB1rd
12.06.19 | Oh, so now you're disputing historical fact? |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.06.19 | I think I've asked u this before but are u for really retarded or for fun retarded? |
GhostB1rd
12.06.19 | The first men were American. |
Itwasthatwas
12.06.19 | imagine thinking democracy is real or that voting matters in 2019 |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.06.19 | Yeah well the first women were canadian and we invited wind suck it fgt |
budgie
12.06.19 | "and until Americans invented fire"
hhhhh |
GhostB1rd
12.06.19 | What did you call me? |
budgie
12.06.19 | we don't call you anything because it's not proper to insult retards |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.06.19 | U should be more grateful ghost, without wind youd never get blown |
GhostB1rd
12.06.19 | budgie nobody's talking to your midget ass. |
Chambered79
12.06.19 | I kinda like that Starbucks guy |
budgie
12.06.19 | ahem |
sonictheplumber
12.06.19 | Ghost you suck damn dick bro |
sonictheplumber
12.06.19 | Retard ghost |
sonictheplumber
12.06.19 | Bitch |
SitarHero
12.06.19 | "I'll have you know I can put palms on the ground while standing straight."
If you're trying to disprove the notion that you're a neanderthal it's probably best not to lead by stating that you're a literal knuckle-dragger. |
GhostB1rd
12.06.19 | Flexibility is a sin apparently. |
SitarHero
12.06.19 | 1. Being able to touch the ground while standing straight is not something humans are generally able to do. And it's not because of a lack of "flexibility".
2. It's also funny because you think your ability to reach your shoelaces was being impugned. Which kind of proves the point that was being made. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.06.19 | Lol sitar |
GhostB1rd
12.06.19 | Standing straight in reference to legs. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.06.19 | When did the americans invent water ghost? |
GhostB1rd
12.06.19 | 1776. |
sixdegrees
12.06.19 | also I believe it was benjamin franklin who invented the wheel |
GhostB1rd
12.06.19 | He invented lightning you historically illiterate dumbass. |
sixdegrees
12.06.19 | have you ever taken a history class, retard
he invented the printing press |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.06.19 | I invented lightning |
sixdegrees
12.06.19 | who are you |
GhostB1rd
12.06.19 | He's Canadian... so nobody. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
12.06.19 | just some nobody with healthcare |
butt.
12.06.19 | "I think I've asked u this before but are u for really retarded or for fun retarded?"
best line is this 1000+ comment thread |
sonictheplumber
12.17.19 | Ghost is a bitch |
DamnVanne
12.17.19 | If I thought there was actually a constructive conversation to be had about politics I would be horrified |
conesmoke
12.17.19 | I shotgunned the presidency back in September. |
Let
12.17.19 | "If you're trying to disprove the notion that you're a neanderthal it's probably best not to lead by stating that you're a literal knuckle-dragger."
Insults as praxis. You love to see it |
Faraudo
12.17.19 | "I think I've asked u this before but are u for really retarded or for fun retarded?"
Lmao what a homerun. |
Egarran
12.17.19 | Send all white people back to Europe. |
Let
12.17.19 | No nations allowed |
Egarran
12.17.19 | Borders are for cavemen. |
Prancer
12.19.19 | orange man got impeached |
sonictheplumber
12.19.19 | Trump |
Wubs
12.19.19 | Dang |
sonictheplumber
12.19.19 | Discuss |
sixdegrees
12.19.19 | wont make it past the senate :/ |
MO
12.19.19 | this was inevitable seeing as it's a dem house. but agreed it won't make it past the senate. no republican will vote to impeach so they won't reach the 2/3s needed for it to pass. |
unclereich
12.19.19 | Yea gotta have checks and balances thankfully, otherwise the libtards would run rampant |
Tyler.
12.19.19 | lol
|
GhostB1rd
12.19.19 | Cocaine Mitch don't play this shit. |
Egarran
12.19.19 | He is our last bastion against the rampant multicultural pc invasion of our lives. |
JoeTex
12.19.19 | schiff would crush trump like he would an insect |
butt.
12.19.19 | yup |
sonictheplumber
12.14.20 | sup |
Ryus
12.14.20 | Are you gluttonous, consuming, self serving, superficial, unrestrained, obnoxious, without restraint, without consideration, without class, decorum, discipline, humour or any sense of irony whatsoever all the while being incredulous to everything and completely oblivious to anything that isn’t atomised or broken down into yes or no.
You’re yank in a nutshell. Bunch of total fucking melts. |
sonictheplumber
12.14.20 | zaks like 50 and still a cunt |
sonictheplumber
07.23.21 | sup |
Ryus
07.23.21 | "zaks like 50 and still a cunt"
zak is just mad the rest of europe feels the same way about the british as the british do about americans |
budgie
07.23.21 | 🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
Storm In A Teacup
07.23.21 | can't wait till the next election cycle where the conservatives start crying about how socialist the democratic party is while the democratic party goes for their 1 millionth victory in a row against the socialist part of their party. except i could definitely wait. |
budgie
07.23.21 | if theyre gonna call us socialists no matter what we might as well be socialists and build up some khrushchyovkas |
sonictheplumber
07.23.21 | feel the barn |
0xME
07.25.21 | socialism =/= communism |
Egarran
07.25.21 | Isms are for weaklings |
Meridiu5
07.25.21 | shoulda voted for Kanye |
zaruyache
07.26.21 | just be a socialist yeah |
sonictheplumber
12.26.21 | sup |
sixdegrees
12.27.21 | it's joever |
TheAntichrist
12.27.21 | grande for presidente |
Storm In A Teacup
12.27.21 | Bernie 2024 |
sixdegrees
12.27.21 | he can still win |
Storm In A Teacup
12.27.21 | Indeed! 😃 (better chance than Hillary or Joe) |
Egarran
12.27.21 | We need a new Lenin |
Cimnele
12.27.21 | i dont have the eyebrows for it |
sonictheplumber
04.25.23 | good evening |
Ryus
04.25.23 | voting trump again |
sonictheplumber
04.25.23 | same, gotta admit id laugh hard if he won |
sonictheplumber
04.25.23 | hope trump runs as "trump party" to split the GOP vote :D |
unclereich
04.25.23 | republicans have no path to victory anyway after getting shit kicked in the midterms. Biden's dead son could run and they'd still win |
sonictheplumber
04.26.23 | hell id vote for hunter biden 100% |
DocSportello
04.26.23 | i don't like him but robert f kennedy could potentially influence a devastatingly significant fraction of "old school gop" to defect
maybe i just don't give shits like i used to but cycle seems off to slow boring start. good stuff! : ) |
YoYoMancuso
04.26.23 | Dukakis 2024 |
sonictheplumber
04.26.23 | tbh i think the "we should appeal to the moderate old school GOP" thing is a myth trotted out by media outlets every election cycle to justify running shitty candidates |