Chambered79: Game Developers Ranked

Chambered79 03.07.19	Can't wait for Rage 2!
Slex 03.07.19	Naughty Dog, Nintendo, and TakeTwo would be my top 3
Chambered79 03.07.19	Sup man
Sinternet 03.07.19	awful list
Chambered79 03.07.19	What's awful about it
Slex 03.07.19	Nm spending my day off playing Resistance 3 for the first time, shockingly great game Also tentatively hyped for Rage 2
Chambered79 03.07.19	What do you like about resistance?
Wildcardbitchesss 03.07.19	The Witcher 3 is overrated to high hell And Red Dead 2 is undoubtedly the best game R* ever made
Slex 03.07.19	The battles are super chaotic and tense, the weapons are crazy and the story in this one is way better than the first 2
Zorg 03.07.19	Terrible opinion. RDR2 was weak af and The Witcher 3 is glorious.
Chambered79 03.07.19	Agreed Zorg
Chambered79 03.07.19	I should check it out Slex
Skoop 03.07.19	Something is wrong here and I think it is ea sports in the top 5
Sinternet 03.07.19	witcher is incredibly overrated and rdr2 is good but not legendary
Gameofmetal 03.07.19	Sinternet with another shitty fake opinion who’s surprised
Chambered79 03.07.19	I could definitely see how you think that Skoop
Wildcardbitchesss 03.07.19	The thing I like most about The Witcher series is the shitty outdated combat and stilted writing What do you like about it?
DungeonBoy 03.07.19	I dunno I personally found the Witcher 3 to be boring, clunky, and not worth the time investment. I enjoy open world RPGs, I enjoy Skyrim and Fallout, I like feudal era fantasy but just didn't like that game. Played it for about 10 hours before putting it to rest. I was very surprised I didn't like it after how much it was hyped up to me.
PyramidNoise 03.07.19	I'm sad at 19. It's not wrong. It's just sad.
Chambered79 03.07.19	The fact that it takes every facet of an open world action rpg and does it at a very high level. There's nothing revolutionary about it, it's just a really deep, extremely well made game
PyramidNoise 03.07.19	Also have you ever played Madden? EA Sports belong in the bin. A bin that's on fire.
Chambered79 03.07.19	I think I spent the first 8 or so hours of it just fucking around with alchemy
Chambered79 03.07.19	Yeah man I grew up on madden and the last few have certainly been disappointing but I'm loving the hell out of fifa 19
PyramidNoise 03.07.19	I skipped 19. Gonna give them time to actually make a new game instead of the same game with better graphics and fewer features.
Chambered79 03.07.19	Replace ea sports with ea and I agree 100%
Chambered79 03.07.19	I think it's better than 18
DungeonBoy 03.07.19	I definitely understand why someone would like it. I'm not saying it's garbage, I just didn't find the kind of enjoyment I expected out of it. I had just finished Hollow Knight, RE7, and Mega Man 11, and next on my plate was Momodora 3, Owl Boy, and Celeste, and while all of those games are obviously wildly different than Witcher 3, I really wanted to just play anything else. A big reason I believe is that at this point in my life I choose to not dedicate as much time to gaming so I like something I can just pick up and put down at my leisure, and the Witcher 3 is much more involved and slow burning than that.
Chambered79 03.07.19	Enjoy Celeste man
DungeonBoy 03.07.19	Yeah dude, I'm pumped to play it!
Gyromania 03.07.19	"The Witcher 3 is overrated to high hell And Red Dead 2 is undoubtedly the best game R* ever made" damn that is an awful take. also ea sports is fucking awful lol. bungie is pretty mediocre too. destiny 1 and 2 were a snoozefest and halo stopped being good over a decade ago.
Chambered79 03.07.19	Not a fan of H3 or Reach?
Gyromania 03.07.19	"The thing I like most about The Witcher series is the shitty outdated combat and stilted writing" how is the combat outdated? it has a parry system, two ways to dodge, a magic shield you can use to be more aggressive and tank 1 hit, other signs you can use to turn the tide of battle, a shit ton of potions you can use, etc. sounds like a criticism someone would make it they picked the game up and played it for 5 minutes. also imagine criticizing the writing of witcher 3 lol.
thedoom 03.07.19	Arkane Studios needs to be up there, Dishonoured and Prey are awesome games.
Chambered79 03.07.19	I didn't care for dishonoured
Gyromania 03.07.19	oh shit, i forgot all about reach. yeah reach was great. halo 3 i felt recycled a lot. like, that ending where you're driving a warthog off of that ship or w.e it is and everything is falling apart around you, such a blatant copy and paste of the escape from the pillar of autumn in the first game. i also didn't like how short the campaign was, i think i finished it in like 5 hours. also the confrontation with gravemind was massively disappointing imo.
Gyromania 03.07.19	yeah dishonoured never really resonated with me either. i'm sure if i devoted the time to it i would eventually get into it, but after several hours it wasn't difficult to put down. prey, on the other hand... was a huge disappointment to me. i was shocked at how horribly the game controlled. even with the highest aiming sensitivity it felt sluggish and awkward af.
Chambered79 03.07.19	I never judge halo on its campaigns. The fact that bungie's halo games are the best competitive multiplayer fps on console is good enough for me
Doibhin69 03.07.19	sinternet prob thinks heath ledger was a shit joker
Gyromania 03.07.19	well, maybe at the time they were, i think there are way better fps games on console now though. multiplayer in halo is an absolute blast though, no doubt. i used to have a dedicated group of friends and we'd have these huge halo nights where we'd order an absurd amount of pizza and buy an endless supply of pop, link xbox consoles and play on two tvs. rly good times.
Chambered79 03.07.19	Ya man. What fps multiplayer games on console are better? Curious
NoHellsNoHeavens 03.07.19	FromSoftware mysteriously missing from list.
Gyromania 03.07.19	well i think the battlefield games are really good for online play, also had a blast with titanfall 2, there's overwatch as well despite it having a lot of toxicity and other issues atm. doom was also a good time. i don't own an xbox one so i can't comment on how good halo 5 is in comparison to those, but i can say that i felt halo 4 was very lacking in the online dept. halo 1, 2, and 3 seemed like the golden era of halo multiplayer imo
Gyromania 03.07.19	yeah fromsoft would rank top 5 for me, easily. who else is pumped for sekiro?
Slex 03.07.19	Dishonoured 1 and 2 are serious time investments/growers, it takes a lot of experimentation and patience to find the right playstyle for you, super fun once that happens tho And Prey is wildly underrated
Slex 03.07.19	God I am SO. SO. SO. pumped for Sekiro
NoHellsNoHeavens 03.07.19	Sekiro is gunna be so sick. Taking the day off to play that. Couple more weeks left!
Gyromania 03.07.19	did they fix the control issues with prey? i loved the look of the game, i'd be more receptive to return to it if they improved the game since the day 1 release. sekiro looks like it forces players to git gud at the parrying mechanic, which i think is a great idea. the sword clashing in some of the boss battles i've seen looks intense af. much more intimate and daring battles than their previous titles from the looks of it. i just hope the bosses compare to the insanely high benchmark they've set (slave knight gael, friede, orphan of kos, etc)
TheMightyScoop 03.07.19	best looter shooter on the market will always be borderlands 2
Gyromania 03.07.19	sam you should make a list of upcoming games across all platforms. there are some seriously beefy titles coming out this year - shit, even in the next few months, with dmc5, sekiro, division 2 (could be great), days gone, world war z, rage 2, mk11
Chambered79 03.07.19	Jesus Christ I forgot from software. Sekiro looks awesome. And halo 4 and 5 aren't bungie gyro
Gyromania 03.07.19	"best looter shooter on the market will always be borderlands 2" until borderlands 3 comes out
Chambered79 03.07.19	Will do Matt.
Wildcardbitchesss 03.07.19	the Witcher’s combat is objectively clunky. Play Bloodborne or any of the souls games and tell me The Witcher is anywhere near that standard. and Geralt’s the most boring stoic protagonist I’ve seen in a while.
Gyromania 03.07.19	oh they sold it? i'm such a pleb, i didn't even know lol. i stopped checking out microsoft news when i got my ps3, and now with the ps4 having a vastly superior library i've put the xbox behind me. except cuphead and ori and the blind forest. god damn i want to play those
Chambered79 03.07.19	Bloodborne and souls are centered around their combat though
Chambered79 03.07.19	Dude cuphead
Gyromania 03.07.19	geralt is stoic for a reason. it makes sense to his character's lore and lends him a lot of objectivity for dealing with people in the world. and as a speedrunner of the entire souls series and bloodborne, i can tell you firsthand the combat in souls isn't more complex than the wither 3. i'd say they're about on par in terms of enjoyability and depth. the thing that's great about souls is the invincibility frames which allows for fast-paced up-close-and-personal fights, but let's not pretend the formula isn't basically just - dodge roll through attack, r1; dodge roll through attack, r1, rinse repeat. and ofc parrying for us big bois. you try parrying in wither 3? it's hard as fuck and can lead to some rly intense fights.
Gyromania 03.07.19	i played up to the mad scientist and his giant robot in cuphead on my laptop before it crashed on me. just as well i guess, that boss seemed like it was going to drive me insane lol
thedoom 03.07.19	Sure, they are not for everyone, Dishonoured and Prey are far from perfect, but the level design, art style, world building, atmosphere and player freedom make these games super fun imo.
zakalwe 03.07.19	Not even a mention of ‘From Software’ who are the tits.
thedoom 03.07.19	Like you can rush through these games without paying attention to all the details that make them great, them I‘m sure the experience isn‘t the greatest. Same with the Metro games.
Chambered79 03.07.19	Sekiro is gonna be great. Glad they did away with corpse running
Chambered79 03.07.19	From software would be top 10 if I didn't forget them somehow
Chambered79 03.07.19	The art style is the best part of dishonored
Snake. 03.07.19	gaben
Gyromania 03.07.19	dishonoured 2 had this free weekend thing going on a year or so back where players could experience the first 5 stages of the game. a pretty generous offering. i remember one of them took place on an island. i think it was some kind of psych ward or something. i liked it far more than what i played of the first game. really enjoyed that i was able to do the whole thing stealthily, and approach the facilities from whatever angle i wanted. i found a way to get to the roof (might have been cheese) and created my own path to the objective. if the whole game has that level of player choice then i'd be down to give it an honest try.
Chambered79 03.07.19	Am I the only one that thinks demons souls is best
Gyromania 03.07.19	i used to think it was the best. it really shows its age now, but it will always hold a special place in my heart. i think the level design was superb too. i loved the prison
thedoom 03.07.19	@gyro The whole game is pretty much like that. Dishonoured 2 generally has bigger areas than 1. You can stealth the pretty much the whole game if you want to. And yeah, that‘s the cool thing with Arkanes level design, you have some moments where you‘re wondering if you‘re cheesing the game or not, because there are so many possibilities.
DungeonBoy 03.07.19	Demon's Souls was my first souls game so it always holds a special place in my heart as well, but Bloodborne is easily my favorite souls game due to the IMO improved controls and atmosphere.
Gyromania 03.07.19	dark souls 3 is my personal fave. they're all so close though imo. thedoom: that makes me far more interested in playing it. my roommate owns it, gonna see if i can borrow it, i need a new game to play rn anyway.
Wildcardbitchesss 03.07.19	I never said that the Witcher didn’t have depth, I said it’s combat is dated, which it is. And just because a game isn’t centered around combat doesn’t excuse it having dated combat
Gyromania 03.07.19	what is dated about it? i explained all the systems it has in place. you can dodge roll, side step, parry, use game-changing magic abilities (signs). what more do you want?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqv2ZsdIXlw how is this dated?
Chambered79 03.07.19	What defines dated combat exactly
CygnusX1 03.07.19	I didn't like Witcher combat at all, it felt sluggish to me. But I don't care for any dark souls or bloodborne type of game so ignore me. CP2077 looks promising. Bungie would be my #1 if they stopped at Reach. R* makes amazing single player games and then makes the online super shitty over time. I don't really like BR games but Apex is fun and Titanfall was and still is the shit
Slex 03.07.19	Division 2 will definitely get repetitive, but I think the thing that makes it (and the first as well) stand out is the world-building/environmental storytelling. It is seriously underrated in that aspect imo, and so much more effective than the hackneyed writing.
zakalwe 03.07.19	Am I the only nerd who absolutely fucking loves PoEII Deadfire? Game is one of the greatest of all time.
Wildcardbitchesss 03.07.19	Being clunky. Playing it feels like it’s a decade older than it actually is
Source 03.07.19	Bungie have fallen from grace
Wildcardbitchesss 03.07.19	And why isn’t anyone talking about Ninja Theory Hellblade is one of the GOATs and Melina Juergens put in one of the best MoCap performances in the history of the medium
Slex 03.07.19	Haven't gotten to play that yet, I really should
frozencarl 03.07.19	haha yes ea bad geraldo good
Sinternet 03.07.19	praise geraldo
Prancer 03.07.19	any team cherry fans?
Masochist 03.07.19	Haven't read through the comments, but has anyone mentioned Platunum yet? Because Platinum games is one of my favorite devolpers. Vanquished, Beyonetta, Nier Automata, MGR Revengence, and Scalebound, which may not be dead anymore. Definitely deserving of a spot. Atlus also would make my list, as would Supergiant Games (of Bastion/Transistor fame). Nintendo definitely deserves to be higher. CD Project Red has The Witcher series, and literally nothing else that has been released. To me, that doesn't scream torch-bearers of the industry. Let's see how Cyberpunk does before we allow them to take that title.
Masochist 03.07.19	And hell yeah, Team Cherry! I'm playing through Hollow Knight right now, and am so psyched for Silksong! To that end, also Moon Studios for Ori and the Blind Forest.
Prancer 03.07.19	indie devs in general have been killing it the past couple years
Zorg 03.07.19	A reminder that The Witcher 3 has a card game in it better than most AAA games.
Wildcardbitchesss 03.07.19	Who made Pyre? That’s one of the best indie games ever made and get on it slex, it’s combat doesn’t have a lot of depth and the puzzles can get pretty repetitive, but the story is rad and it has atmosphere out the ass
Ignimbrite 03.07.19	ea bad, cdpr good. praise geraldo
Masochist 03.07.19	Pyre was Supergiant, same company that made Bastion and Transistor.
Sinternet 03.07.19	gwent is pretty fucking boring, i'd rather go back to hearthstone than play that again
Wildcardbitchesss 03.07.19	Yeah Supergiant has their shit together. I loved Pyre.
Gyromania 03.07.19	"Division 2 will definitely get repetitive, but I think the thing that makes it (and the first as well) stand out is the world-building/environmental storytelling. It is seriously underrated in that aspect imo, and so much more effective than the hackneyed writing." i'm in agreement with this. it gets repetitive but all looter shooters do tbh. borderlands 2 was the same way imo, and it was still a great game. if you like the systems in place and the world building is good (which it absolutely is in the division) then that repetition isn't really a problem.
Slex 03.07.19	Yeah I'm personally really excited for Division 2. Also hell yes Supergiant, Pyre and Transistor are two of the best and most unique games I've had the pleasure of playing
twlight 03.07.19	"Odyssey was fantastic." Origins is better "RDR2 was weak af" no. it has the best open world of any game yet
smaugman 03.07.19	"Sinternet with another shitty fake opinion who’s surprised" [2]
smaugman 03.07.19	cyberpunk 2077 is going to be fucking beast. i dont think it's far-fetched to think that they will announce it at E3 this year
Sinternet 03.07.19	'no. it has the best open world of any game yet' I like the game but can't agree with that really. I'd give that title to kingdom come deliverance tbh
Sinternet 03.07.19	hello oh so relevant user
Slex 03.07.19	I am so insanely excited for 2077 yeah
smaugman 03.07.19	"CD Project Red has The Witcher series, and literally nothing else that has been released. To me, that doesn't scream torch-bearers of the industry." bit unfair to say this, considering it's the only titles they've done, with a normal sized team.
RogueNine 03.07.19	Rockstar oughta be higher. Naughty Dog won't climb up the list until they make Jak 4, which they won't.
Sinternet 03.07.19	which kinda proves their not torch-bearers then. you need more than one trilogy to stake that claim. i'm excited for cyberpunk because it looks way more like my kind of game but it ould need to be amazing for them to start being in contention for that title
Wildcardbitchesss 03.07.19	[2] Sci Fi > Fantasy any day of the week
Gyromania 03.07.19	"gwent is pretty fucking boring, i'd rather go back to hearthstone than play that again" hearthstone is dogshit. game requires you to either grind for dozens upon dozens of hours or outright pay for cards to construct a halfway decent deck. gwent shits on it in pre much every way.
Sinternet 03.07.19	also 'Somehow simultaneously overrated and underrated. Screw 76 and fallout 4. Everything else is mint.' 76 is awful of course but 4 was perfectly fine. way better than that garbage heap fallout 3 was
Sinternet 03.07.19	'hearthstone is dogshit. game requires you to either grind for dozens upon dozens of hours or outright pay for cards to construct a halfway decent deck. ' wow it's almost like that was my point. even that is more fun than gwent was
veninblazer 03.07.19	>Konami over Ubisoft cancelled
Gyromania 03.07.19	sounds like you're just shit at gwent and/or probably don't have the attention span to play a good card game.
Wildcardbitchesss 03.07.19	And yes fuck Konami in their shitty pachinko loving asses. I’ll never forgive them for what they did to Silent Hill. I was so fucking hyped for that game
Gyromania 03.07.19	and your point is hearthstone is better than gwent which i'm saying is lol
veninblazer 03.07.19	The Witcher 3 would still be a masterpiece regardless of Gwent's inclusion, so I really don't care either way. And yeah fuck Konami so hard. Kojima got fucked BAAAAD. I also think Ubisoft is overhated (nowhere near a great dev, but they're not quite the monsters everyone seems to think) so yeee
veninblazer 03.07.19	Rockstar should be waaaaay higher too
Wildcardbitchesss 03.07.19	Ubisoft it probably the most tolerable of the big developers. Their Tom Clancy games are usually still pretty good, like I still play Siege regularly three years post launch. They’re still committed to the AC franchise despite me not really caring for those games. The South Park games were both amazing etc etc. I’d definitely put them above EA or Activision. Probably Bethesda too these days honestly
nol 03.07.19	"Dude cuphead" right???
nol 03.07.19	why is there no love for Gex in this thread wtf
smaugman 03.07.19	bethesda milk their customers too much. what we want from them are games like elder scrolls. just stick with what they do best. i think it's sad that they released games in 2002, 06, 11, and now no elder scrolls in over 7 years.
Wildcardbitchesss 03.07.19	Has anyone mentioned Atlus? Personally, I don’t care for the Persona series but Catherine is one of my favorite games ever.
veninblazer 03.07.19	@Wildcard: That's true. Everyone's still focused on Ubisoft because their midrange PC's can't max out Ubi games still (aka "poor optimization") but nobody even bats an eye outside of Reddit when it comes to EA lol. I mean look at how popular Apex Legends is...fucking battle royale
nol 03.07.19	atlus is an awesome company, bethesda has made great games yet at the same time I wish they'd burn in hell
Sinternet 03.07.19	i mean skyrim is the worst elder scrolls tbh so i'd rather they take their time and make the next one better. aren't they making it on a new engine too? probably most of the reason its taken a while
veninblazer 03.07.19	Didn't you guys hear about that lawsuit Bethesda had to deal with regarding ES6?
Gyromania 03.07.19	no fkn way is skyrim worse than oblivion. tbh tho elder scrolls games in general are overrated imo, skyrim included.
Wildcardbitchesss 03.07.19	On that we can agree
Doibhin69 03.07.19	oblivion > skyrim in terms of quests
nol 03.07.19	the quests in skyrim are sooooooo ass. overrated game. that being said I almost got 1000 gamerscore so eat my words. graphically and hugeness-wise sure skyrim is bEtTTeR but Oblivion wins in the fact that it's consistently fun as fuck
Trebor. 03.08.19	From Soft is goat
Wildcardbitchesss 03.08.19	Sucker Punch. Sly Cooper is the shit
Dewinged 03.08.19	Capcom on 23? And no reasons? You're killing me brother.
JohnnyoftheWell 03.08.19	Haven't read through the comments, but has anyone mentioned Platinum yet? [2] CD Project Red has The Witcher series, and literally nothing else that has been released. To me, that doesn't scream torch-bearers of the industry [2] - definitely intrigued to see comes next though
Gallantin 03.08.19	Never disagreed more with a list in my life
Gallantin 03.08.19	How is EA Sports not going to shit? Even my "casual" friends who buy every yearly instalment are getting fed up with the poorly balanced gameplay centred around spending thousands on lootboxes
Sinternet 03.08.19	Honestly the way they've fucked fifa 19 career mode just to attract more kiddies to ultimate team who get their parents to spend hundreds on packs is sickening. Career mode was the shit back in the day and they've actually consistently removed features in the last ten years.
Masochist 03.08.19	"definitely intrigued to see comes next though" Agreed. Can't wait for Cyberpunk! Also, another developer I love is Team Ico/genDESIGN. Apparently they're working on a new game, but their first three are masterpieces. I wish The Last Guardian got more notice. Also in the Indie Game conversation: Playdead, who made Limbo and Inside, and are currently working on a third game.
Sinternet 03.08.19	Both limbo and inside are fantastic but I hope they switch it up a bit for the next one, fear they might just try to do the same thing again and I don't know if people will go for another similar game
anarchistfish 03.08.19	i don't get why bioware don't make a new star wars. they got the licence after all haven't made a good game since ME3 though
anarchistfish 03.08.19	"CD Project Red has The Witcher series, and literally nothing else that has been released. To me, that doesn't scream torch-bearers of the industry." idk witcher 3 was super influential
Gallantin 03.08.19	Bioware is controlled by EA, who have actively been squashing every new Star Wars game. Rumour has it that Chris Avellone is working on a new Star Wars game with a studio, I forgot which one bc there are always studios making Star Wars games before they get cancelled now.
Gallantin 03.08.19	And yeah CD Projekt Red needs to do a bit more before they can be considered torch bearers for the industry. Their respect for their customers and fans is good, and people seemed to like The Witcher, but they have a while to go. Cyberpunk looks promising.
anarchistfish 03.08.19	doesn't make sense. star wars game is the cash cow. they need a way to milk star wars anew and video games are the perfect answer. capitalists can't even do capitalism right
anarchistfish 03.08.19	name a more influential game this decade than the witcher 3 tho, bar skyrim and dark souls. cyberpunk will be the defining moment i guess, but right now they're definitely the darlings of the industry. torch-bearers maybe too strong
Gallantin 03.08.19	Breath of the Wild, Metal Gear Solid V, Bloodborne, Resident Evil 2 (I hope, anyway), Nier: Automata, probably quite a few more. Influential doesn't necessarily mean torch bearer anyway, I mean if Skyrim was influential it was only ever in a bad way for the watering down and homogenisation of modern open world games. And The Witcher 3 was known for its good writing, but did it really do anything within the genre that innovated or hadn't been done?
Gallantin 03.08.19	Platinum, FromSoftware, Nintendo, and weirdly enough...Capcom, seem to be the main studios really knocking it out of the park right now in terms of quality, innovation, and purely for-the-fans type games.
Gallantin 03.08.19	This is ignoring indie developers though, of which there is far more innovation and fresh ideas and inspiration. Super hype for Team Cherry's Silksong
Meridiu5 03.08.19	f*** EA [2]
Gallantin 03.08.19	And honestly, despite Respawn making FPS and battle royale games, their games are of incredible quality and bring a lot of love and life back to the FPS genre with Titanfall 2 and Apex Legends. Respawn are killing it.
anarchistfish 03.08.19	"And The Witcher 3 was known for its good writing, but did it really do anything within the genre that innovated or hadn't been done?" play horizon zero dawn, new ACs, witcher 3 gameplay is all over them. there's probably no other game with such scope that's put together so well. you're right, i would probably put it above skyrim. botw, too early to tell, mgs5 nah, bloodborne nah, nier is this some weeb shit. ur a console player aren't you
Wildcardbitchesss 03.08.19	HUR HUR PC MASTER RACE!!1 what a tool
Gallantin 03.08.19	I play on every platform, PC included. Also you can't just "nah" all the innovative games I listed directly after name dropping Ubisoft open worlds and Horizon Zero Dawn...
Wildcardbitchesss 03.08.19	Let’s all be honest here, Mass Effect is the real best RPG series ever.
anarchistfish 03.08.19	"HUR HUR PC MASTER RACE!!1 what a tool" come sit on daddy's lap
Lord(e)Po)))ts 03.08.19	I like the zelda one and the dark souls one
Slex 03.08.19	Breath of the Wild is considerably more innovative than the W3 and I think will prove to be more influential tbh
Gallantin 03.08.19	Breath of the Wild will undoubtedly be far more influential than The Witcher 3.
Slex 03.08.19	Just more facets to take inspiration from yeah
Source 03.08.19	I wonder if the division 2 will be any good. The first one actually turned into a good game, it just took a couple years
Slex 03.08.19	I thoroughly enjoyed the beta
Halfman 03.08.19	long shot because almost nobody plays it, but anyone on here play hunt showdown?
Faraudo 03.08.19	Awful list, but 1 is 1. Konami should take the bottom spots, Naughty Dog should be higher, Blizzard should be at the bottom as well. EA Sports and everything EA related should be at the bottom too, Ubisoft has pulled some strange antics, but overall they're the best of the big companies and AC Oddysey is an incredible game, so I would put them higher. Bethesda can suck a dick, etc etc.
Faraudo 03.08.19	Also, I love TLoZ, but The Witcher 3 is arguably one of the best videogames ever made, if not the best. Breath of the Wild is easily a 10 tho, but both games are amazing.
Slex 03.08.19	Doom is the best Bethesda game so I have high hopes for Rage 2 tbh
Source 03.08.19	Doom and Rage own
Slex 03.08.19	No wait is Wolfenstein Bethesda? The latest one is the best FPS I've played since Bioshock Infinite
J0ckstrapsFTW 03.08.19	Surprised FromSoftware didnt make the list but its coo
teamster 03.08.19	1. ID Software 2. Square Enix 3. Gearbox
whywontyoudie 03.08.19	#1 is Jagex stop kidding yourselves
Scheumke 03.08.19	Naughty dog at #24? rings bell Shame rings bell. That should be top 5 easily.
Gallantin 03.08.19	It's arguable whether or not Naughty Dog even make games anymore
Scheumke 03.08.19	More like interactive movies you mean? Can't really deny that The Last of Us and pretty much all Uncharted games are all among the best it's respective console has to offer though.
Gallantin 03.08.19	I never played Uncharted but I do love the Last of Us. But these days I tend to have a very strong bias towards games that push the medium forward as opposed to games that try to be more filmic
Scheumke 03.08.19	Dude look at the gameplay trailer for The Last Of Us 2 and tell me that isn't pushing the medium foreward in the way the AI works and the fluency of the motions and options you have in dealing with obstacles.
Gallantin 03.08.19	The trailer looks good but I don't trust trailers and I'm only basing this on games I can currently play
Wildcardbitchesss 03.08.19	God I hate this interactive movie argument. Play the Last of Us on grounded and tell me it’s a fucking interactive movie
Gallantin 03.08.19	I never used the words interactive movie. I used the word "filmic". TLoS takes most of its storytelling cues from film, and it has long sequences of gameplay that takes control away from the player. I love the game but I believe these aspects are regressive for the medium. I've played TLoU on every difficulty, btw.
Faraudo 03.08.19	TLoU on grounded is tough as nails smh, interactive movie my ass.
frozencarl 03.08.19	wheres the love for the behemoth? castle crashers, battleblock theater,alien hominid lol
Gyromania 03.08.19	i feel like with ubisoft games they just take a few years to become great. take the division or wildlands or rainbow six siege - all had bugs and other issues as well as lack of content and expensive dlcs, fast-forward 3 years later and they're all excellent games. division 1 is finally the game it should have been 3 years ago. following this logic, the division 2 will probably be a masterpiece in 2021
Gyromania 03.08.19	the last of us is a masterpiece in every sense of the word and idgaf what anyone says. game is naughty dog's crowning achievement, i don't even know if the second one will live up to its reputation tbh.
nol 03.08.19	Absolutely nothing wrong with a game being heavily cinematic, it just has to be supported by real gameplay.
Gyromania 03.08.19	which it is. the game on the hardest difficulty was quite the challenge imo
Wildcardbitchesss 03.08.19	And the multiplayer is fucking excellent. The gameplay is great, it’s just not the best thing about it
Hendoi 03.08.19	Don't like a lot of these. Where is Double Fine?
Gyromania 03.08.19	grim fandango and psychonauts fuck yes! the cave was a sleeper hit, couldn't get into broken age though for whatever reason.
anarchistfish 03.08.19	gwent is the shit pyre and transistor (dat OST) are the shit
Chambered79 03.09.19	Looking back this list kinda sucks but oh well
anarchistfish 03.09.19	well there's the learned discussion it sparked so take heart from that
parksungjoon 05.03.22	Billy Woods Aethiopes What your created character in Diablo listens to while working out in Tristram. 4.0 04.25.22
Koris 05.03.22	"EA Sports The only facet of EA that's not going to hell." You sure about that, bud?
parksungjoon 05.03.22	imagine comparing conscious hiphop to diablo
CaliggyJack 05.03.22	This list is pain
Egarran 05.03.22	imagine even considering making this list
Koris 05.03.22	The Capcom placement also baffles me. Of all times in the company's history that he could've placed them near the bottom, he chose the period (at least based on the date of this list) where they finally rebounded and gave us stuff like DMC5, Mega Man 11, and Resident Evil 7? The placement would have made a lot more sense if we were talking 2012-2014 Capcom But this is an old list, so I guess it's whatever now lol
Storm In A Teacup 05.03.22	Vice city was amazing. I still love listening to Maurice Chavez radio show.
Anthracks 05.03.22	i'll never understand why people hold cd projekt red so highly when they've made exactly one good game (and i don't even like it much)
Keyblade 05.03.22	Cave, rip
parksungjoon 05.03.22	based keyblade, made it worth exhuming this crap