Lopezian: Records that helped kill rock

AngryJohnny 02.13.18	Dunno what 12 is doing here
Ryus 02.13.18	Records that helped kill rock: 5.0 classic The Mars Volta De-Loused in the Comatorium The Mars Volta Amputechture
grannypantys 02.13.18	got em
Ryus 02.13.18	thanks i worked hard on that one
zakalwe 02.13.18	What killed rock was the establishment subverting it by embracing it to appear more human. Please, call me Tony. My fave is Dylan and I like to play guitar. Fancy a jam? Shudder.
Ryus 02.13.18	hahahaha
CaimanJesus 02.13.18	Good list
Drifter 02.13.18	6 and 7 rule hard bro m/
pjquinones747 02.13.18	14 is the tits gtfo
TheSpaceMan 02.13.18	Whoa whoa let's not even compare PF to the mars fucking volta
Drifter 02.13.18	Agreed
onionbubs 02.13.18	“Whoa whoa lets not even compare PF to the mars fucking volta” agreed. the mars volta at least know how to keep the listener awake for more than 30 seconds on their albums
onionbubs 02.13.18	most of these are pretty bad (american idiot and the black parade aside) but to say they killed rock and roll is fucking dumb
Beautiful 02.13.18	Quality lists lopezian keep up the good work
ArsMoriendi 02.13.18	Audioslave took members from 2 great bands, put them together, and made the most uninspired shit ever. :/ I'm not into 12, but I'm sure it's fine based on songs I've heard from it. The rest of this is stuff I don't think I'd ever come to close liking, but I don't think they killed rock. Rock died because it ran out of innovative ideas.
LeftyMcRighty 02.13.18	100% agree with 1-7. Fuckin rubbish. The rest, meh.
Deathconscious 02.13.18	I bet you also go around saying "punk is dead."
bbgames 02.13.18	AMEN ROCK N ROLL BROTHA https://imgur.com/a/n802b
TheSpaceMan 02.13.18	If a records job was to keep you from sleeping I guess I'd say the mars volta is doing something right
TheSpaceMan 02.13.18	Okay that's fair, I appreciate the consistency. The best of floyd is removed from prog anyways
RippingCorpse1986 02.13.18	Metal memes LMAO XD
Snake. 02.14.18	ONE LIST PER DAY YOU FUCKING CUCKOLD
Koris 02.14.18	"Audioslave took members from 2 great bands, put them together, and made the most uninspired shit ever. :/" I have to admit, when I was younger I expected so much more out of Audioslave based on their name and their album covers. By those features, I expected something really downtuned and sludgy for alt metal (like 4th of July by Soundgarden). Sadly that never happened, of course
KevinKC 02.14.18	I don't understand this list at all and I've only listened to Hot fuzz off it. What is rock ?
Lopezian 02.14.18	To be clear I`m not saying that rock is dead or non existent. What i was describing was more the period in the early to mid 2000`s when radio rock dominated the charts and it became overly commercialized poppy boring crap. This happening contributed to the general public developing disinterest in the genre and created a lack of progression as everyone was following the same tired formula in order to try and make the charts. This gave way to Hip-Hop, becoming the dominant genre on the charts.
KManoc1 02.14.18	American Idiot and The Black Parade shouldn't be on here.
Lopezian 02.14.18	American Idiot was pretentious try hard trash, they made a pop-punk rock opera intended to be groundbreaking and deep that was as watered down and mass appealing as possible. The black parade is much the same but they went in the direction of arena rock pop and plastic theatrics. In my opinion.
cylinder 02.14.18	3 6 and 9 are cool And 12 obvs
AlexKzillion 02.14.18	"What i was describing was more the period in the early to mid 2000`s when radio rock dominated the charts and it became overly commercialized poppy boring crap. This happening contributed to the general public developing disinterest in the genre and created a lack of progression as everyone was following the same tired formula in order to try and make the charts." Idk dude... you say this as if rock was some super niche genre before these albums. And it's not like there wasn't a huge amount of watered down Zeppelins, Motley Crues, Nirvanas, etc. in the decades preceding the 2000s, and it's not like said bands and plenty of other rock bands weren't making the charts before the 2000s.
Dewinged 02.14.18	"rock that had balls" ¯_(ツ)_/¯
wham49 02.14.18	it was dead 30 years before these
onionbubs 02.14.18	“American Idiot was pretentious try hard trash” says the person with pink floyd 5s really isnt any less pretentious than most classic rock concept albums, and a lot of those artists weren’t some inaccessible acts devoid of anything the mass market could latch onto. it’s not like being catchy is a musical crime, and any rock album with good hooks “hurt the genre”
SandwichBubble 02.14.18	https://youtu.be/fnyCJDYONSU?t=55s
neekafat 02.14.18	Lmao what is this list
SandwichBubble 02.14.18	Whereas I will look forward to the dominance of JAZZ
zakalwe 02.14.18	Creed Goo Goo Dolls Train Dashboard Confessional Matchbox 20 Jimmy Eat World Alkaline Trio Arrogant Sons of Bitches Bomb the Music Industry Fall Out Boy Brand New Taking Back Sunday My Chemical Romance Linkin Park The Used I could go on but I’ll throw in a few that despite having a wider demographic these fuckers brought all that was good about rock n roll crashing down in a ball of mass marketed saccharine product. Alanis Morrissete Counting Crows Hootie and the Blowfish Razorlight Maroon 5 Coldplay Snow Patrol The Killers The Kooks I mean just en-masse whitewashing of everything that was dangerous about rock n roll. Throw in the countless ‘ska-punk’ skater boy, emo, asinine, infantile dross and the whole thing gets fucked. Long live Motörhead.
Sinternet 02.14.18	all of those bands are better than shitty motorhead
Demon of the Fall 02.14.18	Re zakalwe's list: Is it wrong that I winced at the 2nd list more than the first? Both are bad though. The original list doesn't really make sense.
DoofusWainwright 02.14.18	Zak’s list is perfect, he’s not wrong :D I’d add Snow Patrol, Keane, Panic at the Disco, Slipknot...I think we get the idea
DoofusWainwright 02.14.18	Foo Fighters are probably the biggest marker...their stuff changed with the rock times. It got progressively more lame with each release but they always had their finger on ‘the pulse’. The pulse itself was the problem.
Demon of the Fall 02.14.18	What does Slipknot have to do with the others? If anything it helped kids get into metal. Not sure how it helped kill rock, unless that's because the would-be rock fans starting being converted into something else entirely.
DoofusWainwright 02.14.18	You took the bait Demon ;D Seriously, Stone Sour deserve to be there so only one degree of separation
DoofusWainwright 02.14.18	Obviously The Darkness and Steel Panther are the final nail in the coffin - self confessed retro pastiche acts that signify rock is now a museum piece and ‘bit of fun’ dress up. Something to listen to in the queue for ‘We Will Rock You’. It’s not the fact these bands exist...it’s that now they’re some of the biggest ‘current’ rock acts.
zakalwe 02.14.18	What we need is to appeal to a wider market to generate more product. Do this, say that, wear these, produce it like them and definitely don’t say that. Suck Satan’s cock, it’s big, veiny, repulsive but you’ll love the taste. Swallow it. That’s it. Now go on spread the seed, everyone will bow down to the same tune. ANYBODY CAN DO IT. ABSOLUTELY ANYONE. The real pioneers, the real one offs just regurgitate what they did. Copy the style, imitate charisma, synthesise talent. I’m sure we can brand it, package it, augment it and sell it at a higher price. Who wants to be Jimi when you can be Jesse.
BigBlob 02.14.18	foo fighters are the shittest rock band in a long time. yet 90% of people are total Grohl cucks
AngryLittleAlchemist 02.14.18	@onionbubs hey retaaaaaaaaaaaardddddddddd, there's a thing that separates pink floyd from green day : it's called quality
onionbubs 02.14.18	i missed you ala
AngryLittleAlchemist 02.14.18	same. get on discord more.
cold 02.14.18	"“Whoa whoa lets not even compare PF to the mars fucking volta” agreed. the mars volta at least know how to keep the listener awake for more than 30 seconds on their albums" I would expect a ridiculous statement like this from an Alkaline Trio fanboy.
onionbubs 02.14.18	alkaline trio>the 5s of anyone who doesn’t like alkaline trio
DinosaurJones 02.14.18	I hope to one day see a picture of Zak and Doof playing chess together in a park somewhere, smoking cigars and wearing shirts that are open just one button too far, grumbling about how the youth today have no balls and wouldn't know attitude if it slapped them in the face, took a shit in their mouths, and fucked their mama in front of them. That said, this entire thread is highly amusing and who gives a fuck, just like what you like.
SandwichBubble 02.14.18	No kids in the hall fans on sput, figures. That youtube clip i linked is a perfect summation of the whole "rock is dead" thing too :(
dtsanchez 02.16.18	Any Nu Metal Band Any Hair Metal Band 99% of the other Metal Bands
Prancer 02.16.18	a few albums on here were mainstream hits during their time. if anything killed rock, its the mainstream rock scene failing to come up with anything fresh after the pop punk era during the 00s. a lot of these bands just conceded to the EDM takeover and became full on pop bands. 6 is a great album btw
DamnVanne 02.16.18	I think you’ve nailed the time period, but some of these seem like records you just didn’t like that coincidentally came out while Rock was gasping it’s last. Arcade Fire didn’t hardly resemble rock music and didn’t appeal to rock sensibilities. Foo Fighters, Theory of a Dead MaN and nickelback were certainly guilty of turning rock into a really generic radio friendly product, but what I think really happened is that rock got co-opted into the teenager and soulless cosmopolitan hipster friendly indie machine. The Killers, Kings of Leon, Metric, Yeah Yeab Yeahs etc.
pypypymble 02.16.18	records that helped kill kid rock
soymilk13 02.16.18	you all deserve the death penalty lmao
pypypymble 02.16.18	hahahahah why the fuck am i laughing at my own dumass joke
chemicalkid44 03.02.18	most of these are pop-punk or punk-rock, not actual rock. and 6 and 7 are classics, man.
chemicalkid44 03.02.18	"most of these are pretty bad (american idiot and the black parade aside)" and AFYCSO
Pagepage250 06.16.18	While I agree with a lot of these, but I would argue that The Black Parade, One by One, and Audioslave help the genre live a bit longer. It was the music that spawned from these really good albums that killed it. And Panic at the Disco was barely rock to begin with.
sixdegrees 06.16.18	interesting point
Deathconscious 06.16.18	while i agree with a lot of these, but i would argue
nol 06.16.18	I feel the guitar is gonna have a comeback, it just needs to evolve a lot. But rock is still alive, it’s an energy or force, not a genre. Now large grating guitars are def falling out of style, 100000 percent for the better
SandwichBubble 06.16.18	https://youtu.be/fnyCJDYONSU?t=2m39s
Ashen 06.16.18	A lot of what "killed" rock in the context of this list was made possible by nirvana, which in itself was a band that marked a paradigm shift away from mainstreak rock that had sucked since 1978. I like the idea but u need to rewind the clock back a lot further than 00's
Supercoolguy64 06.16.18	You say Jay z I say acdc You say Eminem I say led Zeppelin You say Kesha I saw Nirvana You say Rebecca black I punch your face 99% of teens listen to rap or pop, like this comment if your the 1% that still listens to rock
Ashen 06.16.18	Lmao
Deathconscious 06.16.18	lol. thats what this list makes me think of.
nol 06.16.18	Kids don’t even listen to pop anymore, Rebecca Black lol