Dwap
11.16.20 | Ted Nugent
Aaron Lewis
Phil Labonte |
grannypantys
11.16.20 | ya
we need more ancap musicians |
Sinternet
11.16.20 | the guy from all that remains was retarded last i checked |
MillionDead
11.16.20 | Jack White doesn’t believe in using cell phones lol |
Hyperion1001
11.16.20 | "thinks that lyme disease came from a government laboratory"
???? |
TheAntichrist
11.16.20 | anything lars ulrich said |
Senetrix666
11.16.20 | being a satanist never hurt anybody. might've hurt a few goats tho |
TheAntichrist
11.16.20 | goat sounds good right about now |
DatsNotDaMetulz
11.16.20 | Jonathan Davis has had some weird opinions before.
Also Head is a born again Christian so make of that what you will.
Vocalist from BackWordz is an ancap which is peak idiocy |
Doibhin69
11.16.20 | anything lars ulrich said [2]
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someone
11.16.20 | Nergal isn't really a satanist, i think. he just uses it as a gimmick |
BookoftheFallen
11.16.20 | Hyperion you should listen to the Jasta podcast. All sorts of crazy stuff is said on there. Weinrich went on a crazy rant hitting every conspiracy I’ve ever heard. |
someone
11.16.20 | that Blink182 guy who now heads an alien research institute
not the dumbest, but a funny thing anyway |
Doibhin69
11.16.20 | Blink 182 hasn't been good since self titled. |
TheAntichrist
11.16.20 | wait they were good? |
Doibhin69
11.16.20 | Best band of all time |
BookoftheFallen
11.16.20 | I know Phil labonte has some dumb opinions about guns but didn’t think that was crazy enough for the list. I wasn’t trying to make a list of people i disagree with. |
TheAntichrist
11.16.20 | are they a 420/69? |
Sinternet
11.16.20 | "Blink 182 hasn't been good since enema"
ftfy |
BookoftheFallen
11.16.20 | Phil labonte actually lives in a town near me. Maybe I should go visit him. |
Sharenge
11.16.20 | the flat earth people are just doing it for the trollolol.... right? |
Doibhin69
11.16.20 | take off your pants and jacket is better so nah. |
Rolling Girl
11.16.20 | Was gonna mention Tom DeLonge yeah |
unclereich
11.16.20 | Jim Carey is anti vaxx as well, but yes edgy painting bro |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.20 | i hear thom yorke prefers 2pac to biggie |
Doibhin69
11.16.20 | Little Wayne Is the greatest guitar rapper ever |
Rolling Girl
11.16.20 | B.o.B - Flat earther
Singer from Bad Wolves - believes racism doesn't exist or some shit |
evilford
11.16.20 | Dave Mustaine - various dumb right wing opinions
Also
"John Dolmayan: various maga opinions"
Um WAT |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.20 | Marilyn Manson - I dunno, just assuming |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.20 | Oh yeah I forgot,
Mikael Åkerfeldt-Doesn't believe in horses |
LeddSledd
11.16.20 | all musicians ever - rapist/molester |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.20 | now thats a dumb opinion |
LeddSledd
11.16.20 | yeah pretty controversial i think |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.20 | i hate people who think that underage women |
gschwen
11.16.20 | Trapt, a terrible band, has perhaps the most obnoxious right wing social media ever. They have Twitter beef with Ice T. |
ArsMoriendi
11.16.20 | R. Kelly thinks it's okay to marry underage girls |
AlexKzillion
11.16.20 | Phil Anselmo: troll or white supremacist? |
widowslaugh123
11.16.20 | “ Marilyn Manson - I dunno, just assuming”
Lol |
ArsMoriendi
11.16.20 | Oh and Johnny Rotten likes wearing MAGA hats to piss people off or something |
Ignimbrite
11.16.20 | the entire eastern European black metal scene is a giant nazi minefield |
Gameofmetal
11.16.20 | "possibly a nazi?"
100% a nazi. dude literally painted a swastika on his chest for a show and then called the club owner an "untermensch" during his "apology". Plus the lyrics are all about vague nationalism cringe shit. |
Space Jester
11.16.20 | You should’ve put Corey Taylor instead of Josh Scogin |
chemicalmarriage
11.16.20 | Gg allin |
Doibhin69
11.16.20 | Imagine liking trapt in 2020 |
beefshoes
11.16.20 | Pretty sure that Nergal is just trolling both for publicity, but also because he is pretty famous in Poland, and loves how easily he can piss the Polish government off. He seems to be a liberal at the very least, and not in any way connected to the far-right.
Morrissey definitely deserves a place on here for his retarded views on immigration. |
Sinternet
11.16.20 | this guy i knew briefly in a lame post-punk band was a white 'rastafarian' who spoke in AAVE and said the n-word with the hard r a lot so add him |
aaronrkc
11.16.20 | Musicians should not be smart. |
unclereich
11.16.20 | as long as they don't have any right wing views I can listen to them, actually I won't even talk to someone who doesn't share the same political views as I do |
Jasdevi087
11.16.20 | "this guy i knew briefly in a lame post-punk band was a white 'rastafarian' who spoke in AAVE and said the n-word with the hard r a lot so add him"
is this lambsbread |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.20 | I only listen to artists who share my opinion on orange juice with pulp in it |
beefshoes
11.16.20 | I like the one that says "some pulp" |
unclereich
11.16.20 | oj is one of the worst drinks ever tbh |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.20 | Wow I'm never listening to your band |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.20 | On the for real tho it's not that clear cut for me. Art vs artist is a case by case basis for me and also the extent of it varies too. For instance like say I decide I'm still gonna jam burzum ocassionally, still more inclined to steal his music rather than actually support him and ever buy a record or anything like that kinda thing |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.20 | There are so many factors. Like depends how much I like the band and how heinous whatever the thing is too. For instance I honestly once really liked a couple brand new songs but beyond that never got into them enough to feel very conflicted when the Lacey allegations came to light. Like it wasnt much of a loss to never listen to brand new again cuz I had like 0 investment to begin with lol |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.20 | But say lapalux turned out to be a sex pest or some shit like I'd still listen to him hard but probably maybe wouldn't spend money on him so much |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.20 | With something as small as not sharing political views then who gives a fuck unless it's like there are obnoxiously political lyrics that are offputting but then I probably wouldn't like it to begin with.
I mean I love a lot of pretty homophobic 90s hip hop so whatevs
Also pete rock is super fucking stupid and I still love his music |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.20 | But I'm also capable of maintaining friendships with people who dont echo my exact ideology so *shrugs* apparently that's hard for some people |
unclereich
11.16.20 | yea I mean its hilarious to come on here or go on YouTube and see the comment "I hate that this person voted for a guy I don't like once but his music rocks" or "god I hate Chris Pratt but guardians is so good"i mean how sensitive are you and what are you trying to prove? if he's a nazi or something I get it like "hey this one album by Charles Manson aint bad but I hope he's burning in hell with satan fucking his corpse" but its really unnecessary to even say that, like we know you dont agree with their beliefs or are saying that their beliefs are acceptable. having said that that dude from for SOAD shouldn't be on here. I mean how many of the artists we jam voted for someone we don't like? get over it |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.20 | Lmao yeah word. I mean I personally think trump is a buffoon and I know this is controversial but I somehow still dont think everyone who has ever voted for trump is an evil person |
unclereich
11.16.20 | yea I would put good money that most of the 70 million and counting people who did aren't evil lol there is nothing controversial about it other than the possibility of offending the hive mind of sput/reddit and other social media participants who's views seem to reflect the vast majority because their numbers online are so vast, but really, and this is clear from the election, things in this country are far more 50/50. the internet is just overwhelmingly anti right wing and anti American |
unclereich
11.16.20 | I just find it funny that people can legitimately stop enjoying someones art if they come out as having different political views as them, and here I am a well know buffoon right winger and I listen to all these artists who would probably prefer I die of covid because they assume I think everything the left spouts is a hoax |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.20 | Lol I know I was being facetious about the controversial bit, but people really do be like "if u voted for trump u deserve to be executed" out here
Even in canada and it ain't even our fucking government |
unclereich
11.16.20 | sounds about white |
nightbringer
11.16.20 | Not a young earth creationist anymore but I used to be. They actually don't hold that new species cannot evolve. They just think there are limits to the degree of biological diversity that evolutionary mechanisms can account for. So they deny that all present species share a common ancestor. But they don't deny that, say, all modern dogs have evolved from some canine-ish ancestor. Yeah, I know no-one cares. |
Emim
11.16.20 | Potsy you are a gentleman and a scholar. |
unclereich
11.16.20 | its cool man I accept your beliefs, all religions are equally silly |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.20 | My good pal steve doesnt believe in evolution because "I don't think monkeys just magically turned into people one day" and even tho I'm not sure he fully understands the concept of evolution based off of that quote I still love him very dearly XD |
unclereich
11.16.20 | my favorite classes in college were anthropology because of how many gaps were in many popular species' fossil records. evolution is theory that is still in its infancy so new discoveries are frequent. its very exciting to study |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.20 | No doubt |
unclereich
11.16.20 | the discussion of human and horse evolution was super fascinating due to their both coming from almost identical areas in Africa and both of their legs evolving in similar fashions. yet horses have a very established fossil record and the evolution is well understood yet humans have a minute record in comparison. any day we could discover something ground breaking in terms of our early ancestor's evolution. its almost as tho deniers cherry pick data or something hehhe |
ReturnToRock
11.16.20 | Where's Ted Nugent and his wonderful 'good ol' boy' opinions on things?
Also, Phil Anselmo. |
unclereich
11.16.20 | im more likely to forgive you for shitting on a guy who has never made good music and who also has political opinions you dislike, with ted being that type of guy |
ReturnToRock
11.16.20 | I actually do like Ted's music - and yes, I feel a bit guilty about it knowing what he's like. |
Emim
11.16.20 | Stranglehold is an absolute banger |
evilford
11.16.20 | I am pretty well opposed to a lot of conservative beliefs but I can still enjoy music made by people I dont agree with, and idiots. Hell I just jammed rust in peace earlier, it was a good time.
Also, I absolutely despise trump but I do know for a fact that not everyone who votes for him is an evil person. One of my 2 best friends voted for him, he's still my friend.
Love u reich |
evilford
11.16.20 | id jam burzum more if I dug bm more |
unclereich
11.16.20 | love you too brotha im from northern cali and my whole circle is liberal, its all love |
zakalwe
11.16.20 | New World Order is real.
We all rallied against it in the mid nineties but it’s been rebranded, repackaged and dominates. ‘Build Back Better’ |
Pheromone
11.16.20 |
Drummer: had a dream about going to hell and meeting satan
hm |
Madbutcher3
11.16.20 | i mean relatively obviously arghoslent and deathspell omega as very antisemitic
malevolent creation - phil fasciana (should have figured really) and jay black both racist
morissey
@ford i do think that rust in peace is probably not very representative of dave's current politics tbf
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evilford
11.16.20 | @madbutcher yeah I was just saying I know Dave is pretty crazy in general, but I can still jam megadeth without that knowledge hindering my enjoyment of it. I agree that RIP is probably not super representative of his current political belief system |
thatbandsucks
11.16.20 | SOAD and Bad Wolves are pathetic. You're really going to call out a black man just because he doesn't want to identify as a victim? And because that dude from SOAD share's a worldview with 73 million plus americans? I bet you are a pleasure to be around |
unclereich
11.16.20 | well given that I don't hang out with folks who have carbon copy versions of my own worldview like those such as yourself do, yea I guess im not too bad to be around. I do speak really loud sadly because I have crippling tinnitus. its fun to spice things up with people that challenge you and make you want to be better and know more and not just hype you up in some malformed echo chamber forum of a life in which you probably exist |
BookoftheFallen
11.16.20 | A world view being popular doesn’t make it any less crazy. |
unclereich
11.16.20 | holy shit I never even thought of that. truly a groundbreaking analysis. let me speak to my conservative friends and hear their thoughts. |
unclereich
11.16.20 | whats next album sales don't reflect musical quality?! |
Egarran
11.16.20 | +70 million americans don't think these things are weird at all |
unclereich
11.16.20 | ah yes the poisonous view of lumping everyone together, lovely. |
Egarran
11.16.20 | I can lump Trump voters together. They should know what they voted for.
There are more people in USA if you didn't know.
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fogza
11.16.20 | "and not just hype you up in some malformed echo chamber forum of a life in which you probably exist"
I have to admire such a casual yet brutal riposte. Classy work. |
aydross121
11.16.20 | "They just think there are limits to the degree of biological diversity that evolutionary mechanisms can account for."
Honestly this makes even less sense. If you admit animals can evolve a bit, then adding a bunch of those changes over long times will make the animal not the same as before, right?
That's like admitting 1 + 1 = 2 but can't accept that 1 + 1 + 1 = 3 |
unclereich
11.16.20 | I can lump Trump voters together. They should know what they voted for.
There are more people in USA if you didn't know.
yea all of those are correct lol. there are 330+ million people here, people knew who they voted for, and yep you can hold whatever divisive opinions you feel necessary to get you through life's hardships |
Egarran
11.16.20 | So now you're lumping 330 million people together. Well, it actually seems many of them didn't really know what they voted for. |
unclereich
11.16.20 | I have no idea what youre even saying at this point, and not really considering far more voted for that person the second time around. in fact id argue given joes advanced age and considering he has never been the commander in chief, people have literally no idea what they voted for in his case. especially considering he is likely to step down in favor of his VP. |
Egarran
11.16.20 | Yeah sorry I guess I'm just saying I can lump all Trump voters together as delusional/massively uninformed weirdos |
unclereich
11.16.20 | its not a good idea imo I think you know my track record here enough to know I am none of those things; but as aforementioned if that helps ease your existence on this unpredictable terrestrial planet we call home, I will not judge you for that. |
Egarran
11.16.20 | Dw it's nothing personal. |
unclereich
11.16.20 | I am worried because it is dangerous to think that way and it is personal clearly but I will get over it as will you |
Madbutcher3
11.16.20 | the only thing i've learned from conservatives is that we need to jettison england into the abyss |
nightbringer
11.16.20 | "Honestly this makes even less sense. If you admit animals can evolve a bit, then adding a bunch of those changes over long times will make the animal not the same as before, right?"
Eh, there are a few ways to go here. Firstly, you might think that there are certain adaptations that can't come about just by gradual, step-wise accumulation of mutations. There is potentially a big difference, 'engineering'-wise between, say, the size of a body or some teeth changing over time, and an entire respiratory system changing over time. You might think that changing from breathing under water to breathing on land requires the whole system to be changed at once, it can't come about gradually. This is the point of Michael Behe's argument from 'irreducible complexity'. Second you might accept that, given enough time, evolutionary mechanisms could account for all manner of adaptations but deny that there has been enough time. That might be because you think the earth is young. Or it might be because, even granting standard old ages for the earth, you don't think there's been enough time. |
ChoccyPhilly
11.16.20 | If we can just throw the conservatives and not England (and me) into the abyss, that would be more ideal
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nightbringer
11.16.20 | Further, I suppose strictly speaking, young earth creationism does not require that one think it physically impossible that evolutionary mechanisms could account for all biodiversity. You just need to think that, as a matter of fact, that's not how it happened. Although I'm not sure any actual young earth creationist holds that view. |
nightbringer
11.16.20 | In general, young earth creationism is much more sophisticated than most people are aware. There *are* actually scientists with doctorates in relevant fields, and teaching at respectable institutions who believe it. (They are of course an extreme fringe minority). To think that it can only exist alongside ignorance of basic science is a total misunderstanding of the cognitive mechanisms that can uphold such beliefs. Sure, your average pew dweller might just be dumb. But many of the thought leaders of the movement are very, very smart people who find ingenious, very technical ways to accommodate the data. Intelligence is the key to rationalisation, not stupidity. Stupidity can actually keep you safe from fringe, wacky beliefs. |
botb
11.16.20 | Lol @ thinking other explanations of humanity rather than Christianity are “dumb opinions” |
nightbringer
11.16.20 | hm? |
heck
11.16.20 | the world is only 244 years old because I only recognize America as real |
Egarran
11.16.20 | Yeah it's kinda weird walking by a house downtown that's older than USA. |
LeddSledd
11.16.20 | History began in 1776, everything before then is irrelevant or didn't happen |
Sinternet
11.16.20 | definitely, the church in my hometown is 12th century for example.
you could fit three us lifetimes with room to spare in that time |
DatsNotDaMetulz
11.16.20 | Bruce Dickinson: Thinks Brexit is OK because it doesn't affect him (but affects nearly every other metal band who are nowhere near as big as Iron Maiden). Also thinks musicians should run things because they get along better (boy would he be surprised to hear about Fleetwood Mac)
John Lydon (Johnny Rotten): Went from anarchism, calling the Queen a fascist and nearly getting banned by the BBC for calling out Jimmy Saville in the 70s, to publicly backing Trump. |
DatsNotDaMetulz
11.16.20 | Oh and Jonathan Davis thought Obama was an illuminati puppet although he was happy when Obama mentioned him in a hospital visit to a soldier once. |
Ryus
11.16.20 | ""this guy i knew briefly in a lame post-punk band was a white 'rastafarian' who spoke in AAVE and said the n-word with the hard r a lot so add him"
is this lambsbread"
lmfao |
Rolling Girl
11.16.20 | Also does Alex Varkatzas count for claiming to have invented metalcore? |
Pheromone
11.16.20 | freddie gibbs |
Egarran
11.16.20 | >definitely, the church in my hometown is 12th century for example.
Looks like it may outlive USA too |
Jasdevi087
11.16.20 | "young earth creationism is much more sophisticated than most people are aware."
I'm sorry but it straight up fucking isn't, it's pseudo-science and nothing more. It's literally arbitrarily drawing a line in the earth's history based on biblical events, which is about as "scientific" as that dude that worked out when Ice Cube's "It Was a Good Day" was set based on weather reports and football scores. Their first refusal to accept complex evolutionary developments due to the earth being 6000 years old is easily refutable literally by the simple suggestion that the earth is, surprise surprise, fucking older than that, and their second is literally just them going "nah I just don't think so", which is not a hypothesis. But then again I'm sure the devil put carbon atoms here, along with the plethora of species in the fossil record that suggest a complex chain of evolutionary changes (either that or god's not such a fucking flash engineer and kept having to redo stuff).
I work for a family that believe in the young earth, their son is a science wiz at school, but guess which field he doesn't study? fucking BIOLOGY.
and it's funny cause there are literally millions of christians out there who can cope with standard scientific explanations of the earth's development without their whole brains shutting down due to cognitive dissonance. Like I try to be respectful of religious beliefs but I'm sorry, young earth creationism is a fucking embarrassing thing to believe in |
DatsNotDaMetulz
11.16.20 | Oh and last one from me:
Kanye West: is Kanye West. |
SitarHero
11.16.20 | "New World Order is real. We all rallied against it in the mid nineties but it’s been rebranded, repackaged and dominates."
Really? What did we all do about it in the '90s? |
Fort23
11.16.20 | Morrisey has great opinions |
zakalwe
11.16.20 | Anti-Globalism protests
Anti-banks and Government ceding control to them.
Battle of Seattle which had ripples over the Western Hemisphere.
A questioning of neoliberal economic values and ‘coca-colonisation’ which ultimately is the funnelling of profit to the ‘elite’ multinationals and banking system who had total dominance.
It was all bubbling but people became too comfortable and compensated by bullshit.
We indulged in being a ‘consumer’ and forsook our belief in being an ‘owner’ because our minds were turned to mush.
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aydross121
11.16.20 | "Eh, there are a few ways to go here."
That's interesting. I mean, the time one makes sense to me, but the gradual evolution of a system is just really, really wrong.
I understand there are some very smart people trying to fit in the world into their narrative, but to me it just seems like clever make-believe.
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nightbringer
11.16.20 | Jasdevi087, young earth creationism is definitely implausible. Very implausible. But something can be very implausible and yet have technical, complicated arguments in its defence. Google the Answers Research Journal. Some articles within it are purely in biblical studies or history. But there are a number of very technical articles dealing with scientific data in biology and geology. Maybe your average lay creationist doesn't go near that stuff but it's out there. Again I don't think it's a credible view. But that doesn't mean that anyone with a high school science education could take down its best defenders in a debate. They absolutely couldn't. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.16.20 | this reminds me of this one time that some guy who murdered his dad and then went to jail and became christian told me on facebook that we have concrete evidence that jesus performed miracles because multiple groups of people wrote that they done seen it |
DDDeftoneDDD
11.16.20 | Whats disclosure s? |
nightbringer
11.16.20 | anyway, don't know why I'm going out on a limb speaking up for a view I think is false and very implausible. |
Jasdevi087
11.16.20 | you would never engage with that level of galaxy brain christian without first knowing their talking points, no
but you could |
Jasdevi087
11.16.20 | it doesn't really matter how "sophisticated" the scientific language/methods they use are, it's still massaging the results to fit the hypothesis |
BAT
11.16.20 | took over 100 comments for someone to post kanyee.
anyways i'm generally not surprised when some group/artist that was big 20-30 years ago, has about as much political insight as my parents/uncles/aunts/ect. stiiiilll, its funny to see oldheads talk about how rebellious they are by liking one type of meme better than an other. it's also funny to see someone like john dolyaman completely unaware of shit like the concept of 'condescension'
on the otherhand tom morello 'used' to say some really dumb shit back in the 90s |
Jasdevi087
11.16.20 | i'm reading the ARJ's introduciton to evolution page atm, and granted while I haven't yet opened one of the actual papers, I have not seen a single citation for something even as simple to cite as an evolutionist's definition of microevolution so far |
GhostB1rd
11.17.20 | Greg Puciato put numbing cream on his dick before trying to ass fuck his girlfriend and then he couldn't feel anything so he was impotent and they just had to like order pizza and play board games or something. |
evilford
11.17.20 | lmao |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.17.20 | Greg puciato is the type of dude to tell not only everyone he knows that story as soon as possible after it happens but to also force it into an interview or something to make sure that even people he doesnt know are aware that he has fucked his girlfriends ass |
GhostB1rd
11.17.20 | Did you not listen, he DIDN'T fuck her ass. |
Sharenge
11.17.20 | not to be confused with Guy Picciotto I need to lay off the weed |
GhostB1rd
11.17.20 | Imagine Alpha Greg cucking himself with numbing cream. |
Sharenge
11.17.20 | wait a second but what would even be the point of covering your dick with numbing cream before having sex.....? that don't make sense |
Sharenge
11.17.20 | mental midget detected |
widowslaugh123
11.17.20 | wait a second but what would even be the point of covering your dick with numbing cream before having sex.....? that don't make sense |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.17.20 | He was afraid he was gonna prejac |
GhostB1rd
11.17.20 | lol not even the reason he said he did it was so that it would be more comfortable for her he's a legit retard |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.17.20 | I'm sure she would have been just fine taking down his baby shrimp dick |
NODREAMS
11.17.20 | half the folk punk scene |
GhostB1rd
11.17.20 | True story one of my freshman year suite-mates was bragging about how he raw dogged a girl in the ass with "just spit" as lube and I was like "I wouldn't say that so loudly if I were you." |
GhostB1rd
11.17.20 | Shoutout to Ian you fucking mong. |
BookoftheFallen
11.17.20 | Isn’t his girlfriend a pornstar? |
NODREAMS
11.17.20 | "lets turn a blind eye on abuse and appropriate vagrant culture and get our rich parents to fund our lifestyle" |
GhostB1rd
11.17.20 | "Isn’t his girlfriend a pornstar?"
This interview pre-dated that relationship by many years. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.17.20 | Someone should tell him its gonna be hard to fuck any underage girls at warped tour with that pedo stache he's rocking |
AlexKzillion
11.17.20 | I googled that puciato interview and also found this gem:
Q: Based on insider sources, who gets more tail, you or Howard Jones? Do you take pride in being less pudgy than him?
Puciato: I don't know about how much tail he gets, but I have heard that Howard Jones' dick is like a fucking baby's arm holding an apple. |
nightbringer
11.17.20 | "it doesn't really matter how "sophisticated" the scientific language/methods they use are, it's still massaging the results to fit the hypothesis"
Oh, I agree. I'm making a very modest point here. I'm not saying that young earth creationism is a respectable live option on the table. I'm not saying it's good scholarship. It's not. I'm just saying that it's best defenders are not simply saying that science can be ignored, that the fossils are Satan testing us etc. Rather, they use analytic reasoning tools that demonstrate a high level of intelligence to try and reinterpret the basic data. E.g. they don't just dismiss carbon dating out of hand. Rather they try and challenge the assumption (sometimes with ostensibly empirical testing) that, say, the rate of decay has remained constant over time. If it hasn't, then the results we get from carbon dating can be consistent with a young earth. Now, I think that all of the ways that they reinterpret the data fail to produce an overall picture that is anything like as parsimonious as the mainstream scientific one. But the point here is just that the best defenders of YEC are not simpletons, whatever else might be said about them and their work. |
Sharenge
11.17.20 | GOD PUT THOSE HERE TO TEST OUR FAITH!!! |
nightbringer
11.17.20 | probably |
Sharenge
11.17.20 | "We'll see if they believe in me now... HA HA I'm a prankster God... I am killing me" |
nightbringer
11.17.20 | Here's an example of a technical paper from the Answers Research Journal : https://assets.answersingenesis.org/doc/articles/pdf-versions/arj/v11/problems2_u_and_pb_mobility.pdf |
Egarran
11.17.20 | Bill Hicks fan detected.
"Giant, flying lizards? You moron, God was fucking with you." |
nightbringer
11.17.20 | Me? Not at all. |
Egarran
11.17.20 | They know |
Sharenge
11.17.20 | I know =) |
Egarran
11.17.20 | ❤ |
BookoftheFallen
11.17.20 | Answers Research Journal is one of those journals that creationists start when they cant get their "research" published in serious journals. It was created by answers in genesis, Ken ham's organization that thinks that humans rode on dinosaurs with saddles!!! |
nightbringer
11.17.20 | yeah I know, again not saying it's good scholarship. |
gschwen
11.17.20 | "Oh and Jonathan Davis thought Obama was an illuminati puppet although he was happy when Obama mentioned him in a hospital visit to a soldier once"
In what alternate universe would Obama ever mention Jonathan Davis by name to someone, let alone know who he is? This is less rhetorical than it is an honest question |
AlexKzillion
11.17.20 | https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/barack-obama-i-am-not-the-lead-singer-from-korn-31626/ |
gschwen
11.17.20 | At least I wasn't the only one who thought it was "unlikely" |
Egarran
11.17.20 | Ha that's a cute story.
"Flo, I want to assure you, you are not hallucinating. You are actually in the White House. Those cameras are on. I am not the lead singer from Korn." |
Brabiz
12.31.20 | Pretty embarrassing list |
Ryus
12.31.20 | unless they say BLM i will not listen to their music anymore |
ieatbabies795
12.31.20 | 1 and 16 disappoint me |
ieatbabies795
12.31.20 | Jesse Leach kinda looks like my mexican dad, so it’s funny they both believe in ancient aliens lmao |
Egarran
01.01.21 | It's one of the better beliefs though. But it's so unambitious - the aliens are mostly just slightly better at masonry than humans. |
americanohno
01.01.21 | list of cool dudes with based and redpilled opinions |
Deathconscious
01.01.21 | "But the point here is just that the best defenders of YEC are not simpletons"
Yeah, they really are though. |
ieatbabies795
01.01.21 | “You should’ve put Corey Taylor instead of Josh Scogin“
Is Corey a young earth creationist? Huh?! That would surprise me lol |
aydross121
01.03.21 | Yeah the ancient aliens one is just a cool concept. It's so dumb but fun to think about, it's also harmless compared to others on this list. |
rabidfish
01.03.21 | Ancient alien theory is dumb as shit, but its fun yea. Have you heard about spirit science? |
aydross121
01.03.21 | I haven't, sounds amazing though. |
aydross121
01.03.21 | wait is it the youtube channel that talks about space pirates, atlantis and alien jesus as if it's all real?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw |
rabidfish
01.03.21 | And Emma Watson, dont forget |
zaruyache
01.03.21 | "It's so dumb but fun to think about"
maybe but it's also predicated on the idea that ancient indigenous people were too stupid to figure out cool mathematics and rock-stacking on their own, which is hella sus when you think about it. I used to love all those alien shows on the History Channel but in retrospect they're really stupid. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.03.21 | I mean, can you even stack rocks?
Be honest |
nol
01.03.21 | Slaves can! |
zaruyache
01.03.21 | give me an the boys some gloves and a cold case o natty light and we'll see what we can do eh gov |
aydross121
01.03.21 | That is true.
a few years ago I went to Peru on vacation, and i remember the tour guide telling us/the group that us thinking some of this cool shit couldn't have been built by humans is a big underestimation of ancient people's engineering and slavery prowess. |
DrMaximus
01.03.21 | fuck these people except varg < 3 |
Supercoolguy64
01.03.21 | 15 I don’t get, unless that guy claims Satan IS real because of that dream I guess |
Colton
01.03.21 | Kendrick Lamar thinks cereal is better if you let it get soggy before eating it |
ieatbabies795
01.03.21 | Well he’s right ya know |
sixdegrees
01.03.21 | Certified based musicians |
Deathconscious
01.03.21 | "except varg < 3"
This is a joke, right. |
Brabiz
01.03.21 | Having an opinion is inherently dumb |
Egarran
01.03.21 | The pyramids were built off world. Teach the controversy. |
CaliggyJack
01.03.21 | I believe in Ancient Aliens, though I don't agree with 100% of everything the show purports. |
Pheromone
01.03.21 | hm |
CaliggyJack
01.03.21 | Oh and I'm Conservative, which I guess makes me even worse according to this dude. |
Pheromone
01.03.21 | he also posts on r/KotakuInAction which definitely makes it worse according to this dude
|
CaliggyJack
01.03.21 | "he also posts on r/KotakuInAction which definitely makes it worse according to this dude"
Haven't posted on there in 3 years. |
Pheromone
01.03.21 | > 'This story is really terrible, I mean. Rape must not be as bad as these feminists say it is because this girl said this guy raped her 10 years ago or sumthing and she aint giving no shits.'
your reply - 'You think that's bad? Check out the SJW clusterfuck in the comments.' |
Pheromone
01.03.21 | there's conservative and then there's that bs |
CaliggyJack
01.03.21 | Check the date of the post. |
Pheromone
01.03.21 | Oh shit yeah, sorry. to be fair, 4 years ago I also thought rape must not be that bad.
we were just kids back then |
CaliggyJack
01.03.21 | So what? Am I just supposed to be bludgeoned over the fucking head with this every day for the rest of my life? Fuck off.
I'll admit I got caught up in the cultural war whirlwind that was going on at the time and said and believed some stupid shit, but having this endlessly shoved in my face when the worst I ever did was that, is stupid. |
Pheromone
01.03.21 | it wouldn't fuss me too much if you have genuinely parted from those fucking stupid views - feel free to confirm that you have ! |
CaliggyJack
01.03.21 | I mean I thought me calling it "stupid shit" was confirmation enough, but yeah.
Again it was a weird time, everyone was digging trenches and I fell into the radical whirlpool like a lot of other people. I got out, some didn't and became entrenched in that shit. Either way, I left KiA years ago and never looked back. I mellowed down a lot more and stopped letting social media and shit over take my life. It got a lot better after that.
That said, what I said at the time and the views that I held at the time were really fucking stupid. Nothing will change that. |
Pheromone
01.03.21 | Fair enough my dude-o, sorry for the aggro. I avoided the entire gamergate thing with a thick stick. You still see a similar niche now on youtube with the 'owning feminists' shit aimed at frustrated teen boys
|
neekafat
01.03.21 | How tf has Billy Corgan not been mentioned yet |
Pheromone
01.03.21 | right?!
can you imagine believing wrestling is actually good |
CaliggyJack
01.03.21 | "can you imagine believing wrestling is actually good"
Alright now you're looking to throw down motherfucker. |
ieatbabies795
01.03.21 | Only one way to settle it
CAGE MATCH |
AnimalsAsSummit
01.03.21 | I can’t believe people have these opinions. So dumb! |
grannypantys
01.03.21 | half of these are cool. Only effeminate men disagree |
CaliggyJack
01.03.21 | "half of these are cool. Only effeminate men disagree"
It's not gay to suck yer homies dick how can you all not comprehend this lmao |
ieatbabies795
01.03.21 | Ye as long as you’re friends and the socks stay on it’s cool |
zakalwe
01.03.21 | Why is YouTube full of such total bellends, normal people rightly give all that streaming stuff a wide berth so it’s just over run by absolute shouty cocks who at any other given point in history prior to 2005ish would’ve had their head kicked in. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.03.21 | How tf are people still stalking stupid shit caliggy said half a decade ago on other websites |
LeddSledd
01.03.21 | ¯_(ツ)_/¯ |
Egarran
01.03.21 | welcome to the internet |
DrMaximus
01.03.21 | People don't forget |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.03.21 | I don't even remember what I ate for dinner last night let alone what hawks posted on Twitter 5 year ago |
Ryus
01.03.21 | These fat bitches need to keep my name outta their mouths before I end their lives. |
CaliggyJack
01.03.21 | "I don't even remember what I ate for dinner last night let alone what hawks posted on Twitter 5 year ago"
Hold on I think I have a picture of your last night dinner here somewhere... *Opens up Pots personal picture folder* |
cinnamoncakeface
01.03.21 | need to hear a convo between leach and keene |
Minushuman24
01.03.21 | "right?!
can you imagine believing wrestling is actually good"
I will never look at you the same. |
aydross121
01.03.21 | "If someone is passed out they’re not even WITH you consciously! so WITH Implies consent" - Cee-lo Green |
Deathconscious
01.04.21 | "I can’t believe people have these opinions. So dumb!"
Yep.
@pheremone wait, caliggy said that in reply to someone else? Who was the other person? I need that on my pasta list, holy shit. |
Sinternet
01.04.21 | awful thread holy shit |
CaliggyJack
01.04.21 | @Death I'd ask you to please not but I highly doubt you care so whatever man. |
ReiniEden
01.04.21 | As soon as I saw Varg Vikernes, I immediately knew you didn't look in depth in most of these people.
Just wondered, are you on a list titled "sputnik users with dumb opinions" |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.04.21 | What the fuck are you on about |
unclereich
01.04.21 | im gunna make a users with dumb opinions list next
i will be no 1 |
Egarran
01.04.21 | I just want a list dedicated to ancient aliens |
Pheromone
01.04.21 | minush you know i love wrestling im a masochist
n lol pots calling users out for stalking like he isn't no.1 weirdo perpetrator |
CaliggyJack
01.04.21 | Ancient Aliens watch party when |
rodrigo90
01.04.21 | James Hetfield:
Writes a whole album about pro-socialist ideas. Turns into a fucking right-wing follower. |
Egarran
01.04.21 | Are you saying I can't listen to Metallica in good conscience anymore? |
Pheromone
01.04.21 | only st. anger |
CaliggyJack
01.04.21 | Hetfield is a Conservative? Or is he just partisan right winger? |
Deathconscious
01.04.21 | "As soon as I saw Varg Vikernes, I immediately knew you didn't look in depth in most of these people."
Lol varg simp (and probable white nationalist) detected. |
JeremiahBullfrog
01.04.21 | I actually think artists/people that hold the viewpoint that the earth is flat, covid is a conspiracy, anti-mask etc is actually a matter of being so dull as a person you need to have some sort of out there view, as opposed to like insanity or brain trauma. |
Deathconscious
01.04.21 | The psychology of conspiracy theorists is interesting to read about. |
JeremiahBullfrog
01.04.21 | oh yeah? |
CaliggyJack
01.04.21 | To believe in every single conspiracy theory is to be a gullible fool. To refuse to acknowledge any conspiracy theory no matter its arguments is naive. |
JeremiahBullfrog
01.04.21 | agreed Jack. |
CaliggyJack
01.04.21 | Somebody make a list for sput users Conspiracy theories
I wanna know what kinda conspiracies sput users believe in |
Deathconscious
01.04.21 | Thats true, but that sounds like the kind of thing people who believe Covid is fake or think vaccines are bad would say. You cant justify believing dumb things by saying "qUeStIoN eVERyThInG, cOnSpIrAcIeS eXiSt". Like yeah, they do, but theres still no evidence for your moronic beliefs (speaking to a hypothetical person here, idk what you believe). |
CaliggyJack
01.04.21 | It's not about justifying dumb things. It's about balance. |
gschwen
01.04.21 | "To refuse to acknowledge any conspiracy theory no matter its arguments is naive."
That's not how it works. Conspiracy theories are all thought experiments based on nothing, no evidence, implying every causation has correlation. Willing convenient thought experiments into existence and justifying based on "even a blind squirrel will eventually find an acorn" doesn't require any heavy lifting, only guessing and assumptions. There's nothing naïve about not giving stupidity the time of day.
If you want to believe the moon landing was faked because 'well one of these conspiracy theories must be true', well, you're fucking dumb. |
LeddSledd
01.04.21 | "it's about balance"
you know what they say: for every scientifically-backed principle you believe, there must be an equal and opposite conspiracy theory you also believe |
DrMaximus
01.04.21 | Being skeptical is important but conspiracy theories are absolute nonsense that just isn't worth entertaining. Debating someone implies that the other side has some credibility of which conspiracy theories do not. Like which conspiracy theory has any merit that's worth discussing? I think it's more important to understand why someone believes a conspiracy theory rather than assess the conspiracy theory itself |
Egarran
01.04.21 | >Somebody make a list for sput users Conspiracy theories
I believe in all of them, except the ones that claim humans are in control of anything. |
ieatbabies795
01.04.21 | I had to do a report on a study for college so I chose one of conspiracy theorists
It was funny to find out that statistically if you hold anti-vaxx beliefs you’re also highly likely to believe in a completely unrelated conspiracy theory like ‘Obama is a Muslim’ |
zakalwe
01.04.21 | ‘I wanna know what kinda conspiracies sput users believe in’
1. Moon landing was initially faked
2. JFK was accidentally shot by the CIA after Oswald took the first shot
3. Diana was offed.
|
Colton
01.04.21 | there are a lot of conspiracy theories that turned out to be true. That's not controversial. People think people have never gotten together and conspired before? It used to be a conspiracy theory that the government added dangerous chemicals to alcohol during prohibition to stop people from drinking it. That's been proven. It used to just be a theory that your phone listens to what you say and gives you ads as a result. Now that's proven. Most of them are bullshit but obviously not all |
LeddSledd
01.04.21 | "JFK was accidentally shot by the CIA"
i've actually heard this as well and it's not too far-fetched. it's been theorized that one of his own bodyguards within the car accidentally discharged the killshot after the first |
zakalwe
01.04.21 | Yeah, the car jolted forward, the finger slipped on the trigger and JFKs brain was blown out. There is a lot of evidence to suggest that happened and there’d certainly would be reason to cover it up. I’ve said CIA but mean secret service or whoever it was who were there for security. |
ieatbabies795
01.04.21 | Whatever theory people subscribe to, I think it just shows us the amount of distrust people have in the government. So in that sense I don’t think conspiracy theories are going away any time soon |
Ryus
01.04.21 | the moon landing one is def stupid as shit tho |
LeddSledd
01.04.21 | the rise of the internet and attention-grabbing headlines is easily the biggest contributor to all the nonsense |
Egarran
01.04.21 | UFOs have ben confirmed by Pentagon too. Even Danish state radio has a UFO podcast these days, with astrophycisists and fighter pilots discussing it in total seriousness.
I feel that's a new level. |
anarchistfish
01.04.21 | "Oh and Johnny Rotten likes wearing MAGA hats to piss people off or something"
he also appears in adverts for butter |
unclereich
01.04.21 | "Conspiracy theories are all thought experiments based on nothing, no evidence"
there are most definitely conspiracy theories out there that exist because of some kind of evidence or anomaly. look at Robert Kennedy's assassination. |
unclereich
01.04.21 | UFOs have ben confirmed
yea unidentified flying objects can be seen every night where I live, doesn't mean they are alien, just means they are....unidentified lol |
Ryus
01.04.21 | basically all conspiracy theories are based on evidence, it's just about whether or not that evidence has been handpicked to distort the truth or not |
Ryus
01.04.21 | i mean yea i agree. anecdotal evidence is still evidence |
ieatbabies795
01.04.21 | Like a taking a bit of truth and adding their own narrative/theory to it |
unclereich
01.04.21 | I never thought Id defend conspiracy nuts because they're mostly cringe. But sometimes a well read well versed theory gets lumped into other conspiracies too easily. like not all are in the same vein and fucking ancient aliens. plenty of former law enforcement and ballistics specialists are on record as saying Sirhan Sirhan could not have been the only shooter. There is reasonable evidence to show this is the case. that is not a conspiracy like ancient aliens. |
unclereich
01.04.21 | furthermore how many reasonable conspiracies exist because the evidence the government or law enforcement provided was already sketchy as fuck to begin with? often experts will return to cases like this and provide their own evidence to help show how absurd it is that a case was open and closed so quickly |
Deathconscious
01.04.21 | "It's about balance."
Its about following the evidence instead of not working backwards from your conclusion, and not believing things based on conjecture. Conspiracy nuts have a very low standard for evidence. |
unclereich
01.04.21 | lol most people have low standards for evidence, give me a break |
ieatbabies795
01.04.21 | Yeah you guys are right, i guess conspiracy theories are irritate me and are my pet peeve since I’ve had coworkers or family call me a sheep for talking down on theories
I mean there’s all the destabilization that the US did to Latin America or even the real conspiracies you guys have mentioned but people don’t talk about them because the government has admitted to it, so it takes away mystery from it |
unclereich
01.04.21 | "Yeah you guys are right, i guess conspiracy theories are irritate me and are my pet peeve since I’ve had coworkers or family call me a sheep for talking down on theories"
yup these people fucking suck and give a bad name to anyone who casually believes in a well founded conspiracy or two |
nol
01.04.21 | Conspiracy theories used to be fun, now they are all politically slanted :( |
Deathconscious
01.04.21 | @reich yes, but we're talking about your average person who doesnt think about this kind of stuff much vs morons who do a bunch of "research" and think they proved climate change wrong. |
DrMaximus
01.04.21 | Qanon is a fun conspiracy |
Ryus
01.04.21 | i rly cant fathom how big qanon has gotten lol. boggles the mind |
Deathconscious
01.04.21 | Americans are fucking dumb. |
DrMaximus
01.04.21 | Here in canada as well. A qanoner drove a truck full of guns into the gates of our pms home. Actually I take it back it's not that fun of a conspiracy lol |
ReiniEden
01.04.21 | "Lol varg simp (and probable white nationalist) detected."
Not really, he has some stupid views but he definitely isn't a nazi, there's literal proof, it's not that hard to see. |
nol
01.04.21 | what the fuck does bigfoot have to do with politics |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.04.21 | Bigfoot is conservative |
LeddSledd
01.04.21 | https://i.imgflip.com/36a5qq.jpg |
budgie
01.04.21 | "Lol varg simp (and probable white nationalist) detected." tf |
budgie
01.04.21 | how is varg a nazi again |
CaliggyJack
01.04.21 | "he has some stupid views but he definitely isn't a nazi"
You're right.
Varg isn't a Socialist |
Deathconscious
01.05.21 | Doesn't Varg believe in some Jewish conspiracy to destroy the white man or something? I haven't seen or read anything of his in a long time so I don't exactly remember what he believes, but how is he not a Nazi? |
CaliggyJack
01.05.21 | He thinks people of color are inferior to white people in intelligence and physicality. |
LeddSledd
01.05.21 | could have sworn Varg said something on Twitter along the lines of "i'm not legally allowed to say what i would like to become of the jewish race" |
Deathconscious
01.05.21 | @caliggy lol what? Sounds like you don't know what socialism is. |
LeddSledd
01.05.21 | who cares if he's a socialist
he's just a scummy person anyways |
CaliggyJack
01.05.21 | @Death What does the name Nazi stand for?
@Ledd the joke was that Varg is a racist, so I was saying he's not a Nazi because he's not a socialist but he's a racist. It was just a joke my God. |
unclereich
01.05.21 | sounds like he would be loved in Iran. bet he's best friends with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad |
Deathconscious
01.05.21 | Oh, "tHeY hAd iT iN tHe nAmE". Youre going down that route? |
CaliggyJack
01.05.21 | No, I'm going down the route of "It's a fucking joke, calm down." |
unclereich
01.05.21 | if anyone knows nazism here its former users adolfchrist and fourthreich |
Deathconscious
01.05.21 | Yeah, it was a joke that revealed your erroneous beliefs about socialism and Nazis, but alright then. |
CaliggyJack
01.05.21 | lmao ok bud |
budgie
01.05.21 | "@caliggy lol what? Sounds like you don't know what socialism is."
there were definitely socialist tenets in the NSDAP
but they were set aside pretty early on and were mostly used for populist rhetoric |
CaliggyJack
01.05.21 | I wasn't even making an argument that Nazi's were Socialist, I was just making a joke about how, whether a "nazi" or not, Varg is still a racist asshole. That's it, that was the joke. |
Deathconscious
01.05.21 | @uncle yeah, glad we did a 180 after Auschwitz, that was really bad in hindsight. |
budgie
01.05.21 | was not a good joke |
unclereich
01.05.21 | I did nazi any of this coming |
CaliggyJack
01.05.21 | Clearly it wasn't. Heaven forbid I try. |
unclereich
01.05.21 | now THAT is a bad joke |
budgie
01.05.21 | "Doesn't Varg believe in some Jewish conspiracy to destroy the white man or something? I haven't seen or read anything of his in a long time so I don't exactly remember what he believes, but how is he not a Nazi?"
i refuse to believe youre plainly saying antisemitism is interchangeable with nazism |
Deathconscious
01.05.21 | "there were definitely socialist tenets in the NSDAP but they were set aside pretty early on and were mostly used for populist rhetoric"
correct.
@caliggy then what was the point of saying he wasnt socialist? Doesnt make sense, but if i misunderstood you then my bad. |
unclereich
01.05.21 | oh boy butt and budgie are on sput at the same time |
Deathconscious
01.05.21 | @budgie no one cares if someone doesnt fit the exact definition of a Nazi, if youre racist and believe in a sinister Jewish conspiracy, im not splitting hairs. |
LeddSledd
01.05.21 | "I did nazi any of this coming"
how did jew not? |
CaliggyJack
01.05.21 | @Death I mean the joke can still make sense even if it's just in the name. Socialism doesn't have to actually be in the ideology, it's still in the name. The joke is that I sound like I'm defending Varg, only for the twist to be that I'm not.
"Varg is a Nazi!"
"That's not true! Varg isn't a Socialist..."
Either way if a joke requires this much of a discussion to work then it failed so it's utterly pointless at this point. |
butt.
01.05.21 | Keith from ETID thinks that women should never die their hair unnatural colors which is pretty wack, cool guy otherwise |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
01.05.21 | Its funny because budgie throws around "nazi" as a blanket term for just about anyone he disagrees with yet here he is arguing that antisemitism and nazism aren't interchangeable |
budgie
01.05.21 | being an antisemite doesnt automatically make you a nazi words have meanings thats not splitting hairs god damn son did you fall off the swingset as babby broke your damn mind |
budgie
01.05.21 | Its funny because budgie throws around "nazi" as a blanket term for just about anyone he disagrees with yet
that is called parody butt boy |
CaliggyJack
01.05.21 | "being an antisemite doesnt automatically make you a nazi words have meanings thats not splitting hairs god damn son did you fall off the swingset as babby broke your damn mind"
Bruh that's basically Apples and Green Apples dude... |
butt.
01.05.21 | it's been a while since I've watched a good pots and budgie tussle. love to see it |
budgie
01.05.21 | jack u gonna make me scoop my eyes out |
CaliggyJack
01.05.21 | "jack u gonna make me scoop my eyes out"
Livestream it plz |
Deathconscious
01.05.21 | @budgie Yes, whining about someone who believes in racial superiority and Jewish conspiracies being called a Nazi is splitting hairs. Stay mad. |
CaliggyJack
01.05.21 | "Yes, whining about someone who believes in racial superiority and Jewish conspiracies being called a Nazi is splitting hairs. Stay mad." [2] |
zaruyache
01.05.21 | "Bruh that's basically Apples and Green Apples dude"
red apples and green apples are different, but they're under the same umbrella of fruit yeah. varg's a scandinavian ethno-nationalist, white segregationist, not a nazi in the literal sense. for all intents and purposes tho in modern parlance he a naziboi. tho adolf was probably too germanic for varg's taste. |
ieatbabies795
01.05.21 | “@budgie Yes, whining about someone who believes in racial superiority and Jewish conspiracies being called a Nazi is splitting hairs. Stay mad.” [x3] |
budgie
01.05.21 | "in modern parlance" on twitter and among internet dumbfucks maybe.
"whining about someone" couldnt give less of a fuck what you think of varg, im just honestly shocked by how dumb youd have to be to think antisemite is functionally interchangeable with nazi, lol |
Deathconscious
01.05.21 | Im shocked at how dumb youd have to be to care that racist jew haters are being called nazis. |
DrMaximus
01.05.21 | Budgie probably thinks you have to be german to be a nazi |
zaruyache
01.05.21 | yeah i don't think the distinctions really mean anything when in practice both effectively basically advocate the same things. |
conesmoke
01.05.21 | Those comments about Billy Corgan; "imagine thinking wrestling is good"
Soo hilarious and true. But tbh, I think his ability to dive emotionally into things like wrestling is part of what makes/made him such a great songwriter. That love and focus without negative perception. |
aydross121
01.05.21 | "JFK was accidentally shot by the CIA after Oswald took the first shot"
See this one actually seems plausible to me, I had never heard of that one.
Stuff that can be easily disproven using Occam's razor like ancient aliens and fake moon landings is just dumb af although fun. |
aydross121
01.05.21 | But yeah saying all conspiracy theories are fake is just as dumb too, like statistically a few of them are bound to be real. |
budgie
01.05.21 | i get adolf being dense but you zaru surprise me |
Egarran
01.05.21 | I'm glad we're clearing this 'was nazis socialists?' up
for the 500th time
Next up: Is the Chinese government actually communist? |
aydross121
01.05.21 | China is like high-key capitalist isnt it? like the only difference is that the state owns the means of production instead of private.
but my understanding is surface level tbh |
Madbutcher3
01.05.21 | china is state capitalist, ostensibly to generate the growth necessary to switch to communism |
Deathconscious
01.05.21 | @budgie "omg stop using the word naxi improperly, they are not part of tbe National Socialist German Workers' Party!"
Youre like that dorky pedantic nerd in high school that got caught up on every little thing and then wondered why he had no friends. |
Egarran
01.05.21 | Please be good to each other. This is an eternal discussion and no one will ever change their mind about it.
So we might as well make sweet love instead. |
CaliggyJack
01.05.21 | @Egarran Fuck sweet love. I'm raw dogging it no lube |
Donchivo
01.05.21 | I don't really get how Nergal's theatric satanism and the dream of that Death Angel guy link to the other boneheads on this list... |
ieatbabies795
01.05.21 | I’m surprised Kanye isn’t on the list since he said the film Get Out is a metaphor for his life and that the Kardashians are conspiring against him lmaoo |
Pheromone
01.05.21 | i think kanye has said some wilder stuff than that |
anarchistfish
01.06.21 | the whole point of nazis is they introduced anti-semitism to fascists so yeah whatever |
Egarran
01.06.21 | love you too antifashfish |
CaliggyJack
01.06.21 | antifish |
Minushuman24
01.06.21 | chris jericho is pretty dumb, he could probably be on here. I guess his music isn't very good tho |
CaliggyJack
01.06.21 | "I guess his music isn't very good tho"
Incorrect |
Donchivo
01.08.21 | Wow, Jon Schaffer definitely just validated that he is an especially honorable member of the club... |
Pheromone
01.08.21 | i really didnt think anyone not low key racist n obese listened to fozzy |
CaliggyJack
01.08.21 | "i really didnt think anyone not low key racist n obese listened to fozzy"
Jesus oof Christ dude |
Pheromone
01.08.21 | hey man, that comment implies that i think you are the exception : ) |
Scheumke
01.08.21 | "Wow, Jon Schaffer definitely just validated that he is an especially honorable member of the club..." Yeah lol. Talked to him backstage a year or two ago and he was actually a really standup bloke, but then you see the picture of him at the capitol building and I'm like "....yep...". |
arapinho1
01.08.21 | Add Serj Tankian. |
Deathconscious
01.08.21 | Why serj? |
Donchivo
01.08.21 | Yeah, Serj is pretty dumb too. |
Thane
01.08.21 | i heard ian watkins is conservative :/ |
arapinho1
01.08.21 | Serj is a left wing idiot and Dolmayan is a right wing idiot. So they're both idiots. It doesn't matter left or right. If you push it too far, you're an idiot. |
Pheromone
01.08.21 | @thane lmao |
Deathconscious
01.08.21 | @arapinho1 Lol are you a centrist? |
CaliggyJack
01.08.21 | Moderate>Centrist |
LeddSledd
01.08.21 | crazy fact: you can have a moderate lean towards one side or the other and still think that extreme leans on either side are stupid |
Mort.
01.08.21 | crazy fact: you can have a moderate lean towards one side or the other and still be stupid
crazy fact: you can be stupid
crazy fact: it is probably likely you are a little stupid
crazy fact: the phrase 'crazy fact' is patronising and irritating
crazy fact: crazy fact |
Deathconscious
01.08.21 | "you can have a moderate lean towards one side or the other and still think that extreme leans on either side are stupid"
Ok? |
ArsMoriendi
01.08.21 | Fun thread |
LeddSledd
01.08.21 | the amount of times people, like myself, get called "lol retard centrist" because they recognize flaws on both sides (esp the more radical ones) is irritating in and of itself |
LeddSledd
01.08.21 | "the phrase "crazy fact" is patronizing and irritating"
wholly intentional
"it is probably likely you are a little stupid"
yeah |
Pheromone
01.08.21 | ok centrist |
Ryus
01.08.21 | both sides are laughably stupid |
sixdegrees
01.08.21 | Is 10 supposed to speak for itself or what |
Deathconscious
01.08.21 | Recognizing flaws on both sides is fine, its just a lot of times i notice people who do this "BOTH SIDEz" stuff are dumb people who think theyre smart for not having strong political opinions. |
Mort.
01.08.21 | 'the amount of times people, like myself, get called "lol retard centrist" because they recognize flaws on both sides (esp the more radical ones) is irritating in and of itself'
thanks for the enlightening big brain take
im just joking around, but being serious i think people are just tired of seeing this thrown out there like its somehow meaningful. Its very easy to recognize flaws on both sides. A vast amount of people recognize that there are flaws on both sides. you are not pointing out something particularly new or interesing
Furthermore, the recognition that there a problems on both sides doesnt actually lead to many interesting conclusions. So there are problems on both sides. so what? That is not an argument in favour of either side nor is it actually an argument in favour of centrism. Its just entirely lacking in nuance (what are the problems? does one side have different problems to the other? what are those problems implications? are they moral, political, economic?)
why should i care basically
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Ryus
01.08.21 | just bc you recognize how dumb both sides are doesnt mean youre a moderate/centrist/politically apathetic |
Ryus
01.08.21 | anyway check fugazi |
Mort.
01.08.21 | basically what Deathconscious said |
Pheromone
01.08.21 | agreed with all of the 350 comments ahead of me |
sixdegrees
01.08.21 | Fugazi: straight edge |
Pheromone
01.08.21 | now if u dont mind i am going to read my DAVID FOSTER WALLACE in peace
haha
plebs |
Mort.
01.08.21 | ewwwwwwwwww |
ArsMoriendi
01.08.21 | "agreed with all of the 350 comments ahead of me"
Phero is a toilet and he agrees with this comment |
Pheromone
01.08.21 | that's a phero© guarantee |
Mort.
01.08.21 | does Ars need before and after explained to him |
sixdegrees
01.08.21 | Grimes: woman |
Pheromone
01.08.21 | ^ big if true |
ArsMoriendi
01.08.21 | "does Ars need before and after explained to him"
Ahead means after, so no? |
LeddSledd
01.08.21 | gottem |
Pheromone
01.08.21 | i did mean what mort said. but, i had a similar inner debate prior to posting the comment and thus you are both right
i am either a toilet or not, depending on inteprretation |
Mort.
01.08.21 | he obviously meant ahead as in before him you fucking donkey ars
learn to read context it will help you in life
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Ryus
01.08.21 | BookoftheFallen: is a dumb lib |
rockandmetaljunkie
01.08.21 | honestly, the only musician who had something to say was Frank Zappa |
Pheromone
01.08.21 | mortimusprime stop being mean |
Pheromone
01.08.21 | @rockandmetaljunkie (lol) you have obvious never listened to the lyrical genius of the cocteau twins |
Mort.
01.08.21 | you fucking donkey is nice
i like donkeys |
LeddSledd
01.08.21 | Mom I tore a big hole in the convertible |
Pheromone
01.08.21 | you are a fish |
ArsMoriendi
01.08.21 | Mort just thinks he's Gordon Ramsey
Also how did Zappa enter this conversation without it being me who brought him up |
Colton
01.08.21 | "he obviously meant ahead as in before him you fucking donkey ars"
I like how you moved the goalposts from Ars not knowing what before and after are to Ars being in the wrong for not inferring that by ahead, he actually meant behind and not flipping the meaning in his head. Maybe just use the correct words in the future? lol
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ArsMoriendi
01.08.21 | YOU'RE A FISH AND I'M A WATER SIIIIIIGN
good song
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Pheromone
01.08.21 | you guys arguing semantics is making me lose interest in sputnikmusic
i might make a list later when i quit the site |
Mort.
01.08.21 | 'maybe just use the correct words in the future'
it wasnt me the original comment is referring to you fucking donkey
do you also need to learn to read??
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ArsMoriendi
01.08.21 | Colton I love you, but ahead can mean behind sometimes
English is a stupid language. We should all speak Italian instead
Non sei d'accordo? |
Colton
01.08.21 | https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ahead
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/behind |
Mort.
01.08.21 | yeah sorry but how the fuck was i moving the goalposts lol
also dont take it too seriously, im just joking around and i do like Ars. he is my same join day alt after all |
Mort.
01.08.21 | oh dear, posting dictionary definitions. you realise theyre not exhaustive and wont explain the more complex context dependent uses right? |
ArsMoriendi
01.08.21 | It's okay Mort, Colton always finds a way to be extra wrong in every situation
Just ask him how he feels about eggs and you'll know |
Mort.
01.08.21 | does he not like eggs? |
Colton
01.08.21 | Woooow ok I’m team Mort now shoulda known not to defend Ars smh |
Mort.
01.08.21 | Colton, forget all about that, fill me in on the egg situation |
Colton
01.08.21 | Ok but inferring someone’s meaning based on context is different than knowing or not knowing what words mean eggs are an asinine and disgusting food |
LeddSledd
01.08.21 | u wot |
JohnnyoftheWell
01.08.21 | what in the fuck is happening here, se avessi saputo che questo thread fosse così stupido, non ci sarei mai entrato |
sixdegrees
01.08.21 | Shallow and pedantic |
Pheromone
01.08.21 | [Coro]
Hoy me caí y me sentí mejor
Solo sabiendo que esto importa
Me siento mas fuerte
¡Y más afilado!
Encontré una caja de objetos afilados, que hermosa
Hoy me caí y me sentí mejor
Solo sabiendo que esto importa
Me siento mas fuerte
¡Y más afilado!
Encontré una caja de objetos afilados, ¡qué cosa tan hermosa!
Hoy me caí y me sentí mejor
Solo sabiendo que esto importa
Me siento mas fuerte
¡Y más nítido!
Encontré una caja de objetos afilados, ¡qué cosa tan hermosa!
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ArsMoriendi
01.08.21 | Whoa whoa Spanish AND Italian, it's gettin' romantic in here! |
CaliggyJack
01.08.21 | "eggs are an asinine and disgusting food"
The only take worth a goddamn on this fucking awful thread.
@Pheromone "sexy foreign talk"
Take off your clothes you dirty slut |
Pheromone
01.08.21 | omg caliggy,,, aren't you the guy who
likes fozzy?? |
Pheromone
01.08.21 | omg caliggy,,,
dont mind if i do |
Colton
01.08.21 | Based CJ |
Egarran
01.08.21 | this shit got hardcore |
Colton
01.08.21 | Also seeing people make grammar/spelling/something related to proper writing criticisms when they’re wrong gets me unreasonably worked up I’m sorry lol |
ArsMoriendi
01.08.21 | Eu não falo português, mas aqui vai um pouco!
Also, what is Fozzy? Some band? I only know the comedy bear puppet |
CaliggyJack
01.08.21 | @ARS It's Dad-Metal but in an ironic way. Really fun hair metal with the vocalist being a pro wrestler |
sixdegrees
01.08.21 | I only know Fozzie, one of the GOAT Sputnik users |
ArsMoriendi
01.08.21 | Parody hair metal? So like Steel Panther? Makes sense |
CaliggyJack
01.08.21 | @Ars Yes and no. It's definitely tongue and cheek but they actually try to rock the fuck out and be taken seriously as a Metal act. It's a more tempered version of Steel Panther.
Start with Sin and Bones and you'll understand what I mean. |
DatsNotDaMetulz
01.08.21 | We can add Koichi Fukuda of Static-X (right wing conspiracy theorist) to the list. |
LelandAB
01.08.21 | The dude from Trapt has to be on this list |
ArsMoriendi
01.08.21 | I don't think hair metal, parody or not, is for me, so I'll pass honestly Caliggy |
CaliggyJack
01.08.21 | Ok no problem! |
arapinho1
01.08.21 | We forgot Alissa White Gluz |
Minushuman24
01.09.21 | Jericho is dumb af, but he's goat |
Keyblade
01.09.21 | whats up with AWG? |
Donchivo
01.09.21 | John Maus and Ariel Pink just begged for inclusion in this list... |
Egarran
01.09.21 | We're gonna need a list of Trump supporter musicians for this. |
unclereich
01.09.21 | only until we get a list of musicians that support the ccp and have gone to epsteins island. |
Pheromone
01.09.21 | oh ffs john maus |
unclereich
01.09.21 | youll be ok |
Pheromone
01.09.21 | i am ok now thank u |
unclereich
01.09.21 | i regret my brand new tattoos too |
Pheromone
01.09.21 | lol i had one booked for ~just~ before
sorry to hear x |
unclereich
01.09.21 | Lol can you imagine. I dont have tattoos for religious reasons but damn a nice tattoo of the astronaut or something woulda been cool. Then that shit comes out lmaooo must have been a bummer . I honestly think a much smaller list would be musicians that DONT have stupid PUBLIC opinions. Plus who knows what these people who have all this fame think behind closed doors :shudders: |
Pheromone
01.09.21 | aha i was lucky with the timing - yeah, i love iggy pop but the lyric 'I slept with Sable when she was 13' rly makes him hard to idolise |
unclereich
01.09.21 | I have never understood celebrity/human worship of any kind. Ive always thought that most people who are capable of making the shit we listen to or watch are probably fucked up in their mental |
Pheromone
01.09.21 | eh, i get you but i think there's a difference between worship and hoping the guy you're listening to isn't a fascist paedo.
plus i totes stan john k samson so |
unclereich
01.09.21 | Oh of course and that's naturally the slippery slope of a sentiment like mine. I'm just not quick to judge an artist based solely on who they voted for. Can u imagine my RINO ass doing that? I'd have to throw away my entire record collection |
Egarran
01.09.21 | >I never understood
In my studies of rhetoric I learned that opening with this phrase does not help your subsequent observations. And it leaves little chance can other people can help you understand the subject.
Carry on. |
unclereich
01.09.21 | You must be fun at parties! |
Donchivo
01.09.21 | Haha with Schaffer, Maus and Pink, i possibly wouldn't see them as belonging on this list if they had merely voted for that infantile moron. But for their actions now in this situation. |
Egarran
01.09.21 | Uncle ur probably fucked up in ur mental
Was that better? |
unclereich
01.09.21 | My point rests. 0-100 really quick with you man you need to chilly chill |
unclereich
01.09.21 | You're high key fessin, put that shit up on front street or you're likely to get dealt with.
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Egarran
01.09.21 | I'm chill, but take advice man. No shame in that.
|
Egarran
01.09.21 | There's clearly a direct line from never understanding to being offended to storming the capitol. |
unclereich
01.09.21 | You aint chill. Most folks are unlikely to follow the advice of someone spewing supercilious comments regarding online vernacular. In your studies you should have surely come across as much!
Furthermore I'm certain you've analyzed the effect of ad hominem in discussion and likewise its usefulness or-lack thereof- when trying to administer advice |
Egarran
01.09.21 | There was no ad hominem in my advice though. Have you made a strawman there? |
Egarran
01.09.21 | Wait, I guess the very act of giving advice can be considered ad hominem by some people. In that case, I'm sorry. |
unclereich
01.09.21 | Are you ok? |
Egarran
01.09.21 | Just saying it's a bad opening to flaunt your inability to understand something as a badge of honor.
Didn't know it would annoy you so much, so again, accept my apologies. |
Deathconscious
01.09.21 | That was the most passive aggressive shit talking ive ever seen between two people. |
BallsToTheWall
01.09.21 | Classic list. |
Egarran
01.09.21 | There is still a love that must be allowed to live |
Pheromone
01.09.21 | this thread is awful and i love it |
unclereich
01.09.21 | my studies of rhetoric have found that i indeed love this thread |
unclereich
01.09.21 | my rhetoric studies are too time consuming for such a foolish trifling |
Ryus
01.09.21 | "We're gonna need a list of Trump supporter musicians for this."
making the list rn. if anyone wants to join my protest we're gonna storm ariel pinks house |
unclereich
01.09.21 | im making a list of users who are fun at parties |
Pheromone
01.09.21 | bet ariel pinks house has a bidet |
Ryus
01.09.21 | "im making a list of users who are fun at parties "
sorry that list perfectly intersects with my list of f*scist users so your party is officially canceled |
unclereich
01.09.21 | There's clearly a direct line from making lists about users to bidets to storming the capitol |
Egarran
01.09.21 | Actually a relief to know that I'm not a fascist |
unclereich
01.09.21 | a relief only a laxative could bring |
Donchivo
01.10.21 | Ok, gettin a buffalo costume and some paint on tattooes right now to be ready for Ariel Pinks house. |
EphemeralEternity
01.10.21 | https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a5/Deftones_Rock_im_Park_2016_%2815_von_14%29.jpg
at least he admits it |
CaliggyJack
01.10.21 | Today I am reminded why celebrities shouldn't be allowed to have opinions. |
Mort.
01.10.21 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34pXBofF1Qc |
CaliggyJack
01.10.21 | ^That was fucking sick |
Mort.
01.11.21 | an underrated band for sure. ive been meaning to review them so more people know of them for years now but never get round to it |
FabiusPictor202
03.25.21 | lmao great list |
Donchivo
03.25.21 | Haha great to see that no bail accepted for Jon Schaffer... |
BookoftheFallen
03.25.21 | cant wait to hear schaffers upcoming made-in-prison dungeon synth album. |
Donchivo
03.25.21 | Maybe it will be a Burzum and Mortiis Cover album
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Asdfp277
03.25.21 | didn't know system of a down was right-leaning lmao |
Rolling Girl
05.06.21 | If you're still adding to this: Skillet for the singers hilarious take on WAP |
sixdegrees
05.06.21 | Deboonked |
BookoftheFallen
05.06.21 | I haven’t looked at this list in months. I don t know why you are still commenting on it. |