StarlessCore
11.11.15 | game stinks whose with me |
Fluttertrank
11.11.15 | game is trash yeah. so is the company so not surprising. |
Aftertheascension
11.11.15 | Daggerfall was their best game by an extreme margin. |
Fluttertrank
11.11.15 | damn, gonna reinstall daggerfall right now. |
Sinternet
11.11.15 | Morrowind > all |
Aftertheascension
11.11.15 | They just need to remaster that game with a modern engine and my oh fucking my I would never leave my house. |
torts
11.11.15 | god you all are even pretentious with video games i hate all of you |
Aftertheascension
11.11.15 | Do you even know what that word means? |
torts
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Ovrot
11.11.15 | fallout is the Korn of video games |
torts
11.11.15 | you're the korn of users on this site |
Ovrot
11.11.15 | i can live with that |
Aftertheascension
11.11.15 | People on this site use that stupid word more than they talk about actual music. |
alienobserver
11.11.15 | calm your torts |
DinosaurJones
11.11.15 | Man, I'm playing StarCraft: LotV; I haven't jumped on the Fallout hype train yet. |
StarlessCore
11.11.15 | "They just need to remaster that game with a modern engine and my oh fucking my I would never leave my house."
look up skywind bro
also, theres a heavy modding community that made an earlier one that the skywind project called morrowind overhaul 3.0. thats what i play morro with
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Fluttertrank
11.11.15 | heavydirtysoul
11.11.15
[Report this Post] calm your torts |
deathschool
11.11.15 | Um, Ovrot is the man. Watch where you're stepping torts. |
MotoOnSputnik
11.11.15 | the anti hype train is stronger than the hype train, fking hipsters. If you like it than have fun with it if you don't than trade it in lol. |
StarlessCore
11.11.15 | the anti hype train definitely does not touch the hype train for this game, no way lol |
MotoOnSputnik
11.11.15 | Sure it does, the stronger the hype train gets the louder the naysayers feel the need to be. So as long as people are hyped for the game all the hipsters will try to shoot them down equally. |
StarlessCore
11.11.15 | lol hipsters, or people who expect dialogue to not sound like it was written by a four year old |
MotoOnSputnik
11.11.15 | Fallout and Elder Scrolls have always been pretty clunky and awkward in general to be fair. |
MotoOnSputnik
11.11.15 | And if that's a problem for you than it's a fair criticism. I just don't like when people go against something just because they see a lot of people who are excited for it. Hence fking hipsters |
StarlessCore
11.11.15 | agreed, morro is the clumsiest engine wise of them all, but doesnt generally contain dialogue or dry plot that sounds like it was ripped from a no name action movie |
MotoOnSputnik
11.11.15 | Haha some of that is expected when you make a game more accessible than the older ones. Don't even try to tell me there isn't some awkward AF dialogue in games with similar speech mechanics like Mass Effect |
MotoOnSputnik
11.11.15 | And BTW, Coddsworth has some great dialogue akin to claptrap or something |
MotoOnSputnik
11.11.15 | It aint all bad man |
StarlessCore
11.11.15 | nah it aint all bad. but yea dialogue is so bad, consistently bad and stupid, as bad as the writing in mass effect
coddsworth is the only character that doesnt have dumb lines that make my body cringe from stupidity |
Snake.
11.11.15 | thread made me chuckle gj fam |
StarlessCore
11.11.15 | its not a new engine, youre off on that. its skyrims engine, without the fixing of problems in that engine, the only thing they added was better lighting, aside from that, I am unimpressed with the graphics to say the least, but idc about that rlly, just kind of annoying they have this huge budget now, all this time for development and it looks dated. character models are gross, comparable to xbox 360 games from years ago, or even earlier.
the game is punishing- maybe more so than skyrim and oblivion and fo3- because nothing scales with you anymore, like morrowind. however, it is nowhere near as hardcore, challenging or dedicated to survival tactics in the same fashion that fo1 and fo2 were. not even close. harder than the last 3 bethesda rpgs, mainly because they cut the 'everything or some things' scale with you forever crap. and i thought that was a great move.
i like the map a lot, the exploration and quality of whats discoverable on the map took a huge dip in quality from morro to oblivion and fo3, and then got better with skyrim, and maybe improved again here.
however, the rpg elements have been streamlined and simplified yet again, the dialogue is the worst in bethesda history, and the main story imo so far is forgettable and plain, and a lot of people who have finished are saying the same thing.
so there are things they did better than the last few games, some things got worse, some exploited to reach the larger audience, some actually improved (world design, lack of world scaling) so Im happy with it, but kinda feel like that bummed hipster who just wishes this company would stop pandering to the masses and maybe hire external people to do quest design and writing and stuff, cause they suck at it now. |
StarlessCore
11.11.15 | again I'm still not nearly as far in as I should be to make some of these claims- none of us are- but its bethesda, and if you've played all their stuff and watched their progression game to game, you kinda always know what youre in for. |
StarlessCore
11.11.15 | I havent really dug into the base building yet besides doing some missions for sturgess aka worse voice actor in history
but i like the idea of a red rocket fortress. think im gonna STEAL your idea! except im gonna head to diamond city, see if theres any locations near there I wanna build my fortress on
im just hoping the base building and settlement aspect is fleshed out im hearing some people saying its kinda unrelated to everything else and some saying thats not the case and there is more to it than meets the eye. i mean if i dont get extras from bulding a settlement and running it and improving it thats lame. i dont wanna just build it there to defend from bandits every once and a while. i wanna see the rhyme/reason and world impact of having settlements |
StarlessCore
11.11.15 | dinky farm....with the two headed cow, small family with a daughter who gives you fetch quests for bottle caps?
I SLAUGHTERED THEM ALL. |
StarlessCore
11.11.15 | omg im so mad now. where are those weapons and power armor. ill never run into them that way now cause i slaughtered the quest giver. unless bethesda is rlly that lame and she respawns but doubt it.
i slaughtered her her family and that cow and it was marvelous. codsworth pelted her in the skull and i shot her in the head |
Balerion
11.11.15 | I'm definitely enjoying the game so far. I like nice pretty graphics but I don't need them. Hopefully this and MGSV keep me busy until Dark Souls 3, and that new Bloodborne DLC, LETS GO |
LotusFlower
11.11.15 | I wasn't going to pick up this game anyways (primarily due to the lack of a next gen console) so it's w/e. |
Krvst
11.11.15 | Are people even surprised |
ConcubinaryCode
11.11.15 | I'll give you that the dialogue options in this game are a bit underdeveloped but everything else in this game is great so far. The perks replacing skills was a good move. |
Calc
11.11.15 | game is good. all bethesda games are good.
sorry everybody. |
Archael
11.11.15 | Calculon [2]
Pce fam |
StarlessCore
11.11.15 | clearly u didnt play pooblivion |
zaruyache
11.11.15 | wow this game is getting skewered on Metacritic damn. |
StarlessCore
11.11.15 | @zaru
look how its getting torn to pieces by the steam community. an absolutely bloodbath I had no idea the reaction would be like this |
Futures
11.11.15 | nobody cares what metacritic or the stream community says |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.11.15 | "Aight but its still p fun : )"
as an extremely casual gamer i just skip to this step tbh |
StarlessCore
11.11.15 | everybody on every major forum or medium across the internet is raging about this game lol, not limited to steam or metacritic
gotta play more for myself of course but like....goddamn |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.11.15 | skyrim is fun |
LotusFlower
11.11.15 | Geeze, I was expecting this game to be another Bioshock Infinite where it got crazy stupid praise for a few weeks and then the nay-sayers would come out of the woodstock to tear it down... but this game is getting hammered on all sides of the spectrum and right out of the gates. I really didn't see that coming at all. |
StarlessCore
11.11.15 | i mean yea its getting hammered everywhere lol |
Madbutcher3
11.11.15 | play undertale it's £33 cheaper and good |
TheWrenKing
11.11.15 | i'm playing the binding of isaac instead because i am sad so very sad |
LotusFlower
11.11.15 | Undertale is GOAT tbh. |
MeatSalad
11.11.15 | pirating it now. i'm not paying $80 for a potential pile of shit but seeing as new vegas is one of my all time favorite games i have to at least try it out |
LotusFlower
11.11.15 | doesn't steam do refunds for up to 2 weeks? |
Madbutcher3
11.11.15 | GOATmom |
MeatSalad
11.11.15 | the steam refund period cuts off if you log 2 hours of play |
LotusFlower
11.11.15 | Oh yeahhh, I forgot about the 2 hour thing... my bad. |
MrSirLordGentleman
11.11.15 | Undertale is GOAT tbh [2]
And I tend to hate indie stuff |
LotusFlower
11.11.15 | and I tend to hate games hyped into the stratosphere , so yeah, big surprise over how great it was. |
LotusFlower
11.11.15 | it's fanbase is up there with FNAF and Sonic fans as the worst though |
Aftertheascension
11.11.15 | "Fallout and Elder Scrolls have always been pretty clunky and awkward in general to be fair."
The mods make the games. Skyrim vanilla is so bland to me after I got a pc copy.
"it's fanbase is up there with FNAF and Sonic fans as the worst though"
Fuck fnaf but I do enjoy sonic games, most of the modern ones suck ass sadly.
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LotusFlower
11.11.15 | The problem with modern sonic games is that SEGA are completely afraid of finding a concept and sticking with it. Every Sonic game has some new style or gimmick that has an idea or two that can work really well with some development... but instead of doing anything with it SEGA instantly flushes it down the drain and then tries to find some new way to try to make re-invent Sonic.
it's an endless cycle of bullshit backed up by a fanbase that supports blatant bullshit. |
ConcubinaryCode
11.11.15 | I can't be bothered to look it up but what are pepper exactly saying about this game that they don't like? |
Aftertheascension
11.11.15 | I just want a sonic adventure 3 with no fishing or treasure hunting bullshit.
The sonic and shadow stages in those games were absolutely amazing.
The music was as well.
Or they could keep going down the route of Sonic Generations, which is the best modern sonic by a considerable margin. |
LotusFlower
11.11.15 | Sonic Generations or Sonic Colors, best things to come out of sonic since his first few games. |
Masochist
11.11.15 | ^^^ Agreed. Sonic Generations is my favorite 3-D Sonic game by far. They have the ability to create great 3-D sonic games--there are good parts to most of the games released from Sonic Adventure-on, but they get mashed in with some horrendously designed parts (fuck Pumpkin Hill. Can't shit on that music, though). If they can mix and match the positive portions (and do at least a year's worth of bug testing), they can pull one off that rivals the 2-D games, I'm certain.
That all being said...I'm not holding out hope of that ever happening.
And back to the topic at hand, I still plan on getting Fallout 4 soon. I can't imagine it's near as bad as people think it is. |
Aftertheascension
11.11.15 | AIN'T GONNA LET IT GET TO ME, I'M JUST GONNA CREEP.
lmao pumpkin hill music is ace |
BreakerdeGodot
11.11.15 | You could always just replay The Witcher 3, which is easily better than anything Bethesda has made in the last 10 years. |
LotusFlower
11.11.15 | This game sold 1.2 million copies and it hasn't even been a day. |
LotusFlower
11.11.15 | Oops, 1.2 million on Steam alone. |
Aftertheascension
11.11.15 | Fallout is a big name. I honestly expected more. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.11.15 | I just started the Witcher 2 Assassin of Kings, but I'm a little hesitant because it seems like the dialogue is terrible starting out. Never played the series before, or even heard of it. It was a free download years ago and I'm just now getting to it, but I still need to finish Divinity 2: Ego Draconis and Flames of Vengeance. I got to Flames of Vengeance portion but I didn't train enough or do enough quests that I'm not possibly strong enough to keep advancing so I started a new game and doing every quest. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.11.15 | @aftertheascension: It's more than just 1.2 million lmao |
Slex
11.11.15 | Witcher 2 is amazing, equal to Skyrim imo
Absolutely loving FO4 so much but can i see to some extent why people aren't feeling it |
LotusFlower
11.11.15 | @ascension, that's steam copies alone with the game only being out in a small number of countries. That's pretty damn impressive. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.11.15 | Is FO4 more comparable to New Vegas or FO3?
@freddie well I suppose I just have to keep playing it |
Aftertheascension
11.11.15 | Oh shit I thought it was overall.
I guess pc gaming is getting bigger. Thank god. |
climactic
11.12.15 | "If you like it than have fun with it if you don't than trade it in lol."
12 year old youtube commenter logic f off
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Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.15 | i dont know dude thats pretty good logic tbh |
alienobserver
11.12.15 | nah it's way better to not get your money back and instead shit all over the game on sputnikmusic |
climactic
11.12.15 | if u have any negative opinion on anything u better not talk about it on the internet!!!!!!!! |
alienobserver
11.12.15 | if u are climatic u better not talk about anything on the internet!!!!!!!! |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.15 | but i mean of course u can have negative opinions but i mean if u dont like it maybe u should trade it in and if u do like it maybe u should have fun with it ya know |
Futures
11.12.15 | seems very logical tbh |
climactic
11.12.15 | im not saying dont return it but pls go back and read the comments from the guy you are defending |
climactic
11.12.15 | "fking hipsters" |
ConcubinaryCode
11.12.15 | Just because you agree with what someone says doesn't mean you're defending them. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.15 | nah im not gonna do that tbh |
Storm In A Teacup
11.12.15 | guys this was a good conversation don't ruin it |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.15 | storm just ruined it |
Storm In A Teacup
11.12.15 | who am i kidding it's probably too late now anyway |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.15 | agreed u fucked up |
climactic
11.12.15 | ok guys |
Nocturnalize
11.12.15 | nerds |
Storm In A Teacup
11.12.15 | Mass Effect sucks |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.15 | i played it once. ended up playing all night. then i never played it ever again. |
zaruyache
11.12.15 | 13K steam reviews and 78% positive |
Futures
11.12.15 | but apparently this game is getting "hammered" lmao |
Storm In A Teacup
11.12.15 | I played the first segment of the game up until the assistant alien on your ship dies or whatever. Then I decided there was other games I'd be more interested in. |
Nocturnalize
11.12.15 | this is a music website |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.15 | because thats stopped people about talking about anything non music related before
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Mongi123
11.12.15 | Fallout 3 and Skyrim are pretty great, but as a whole Bethesda is one of the most overrated developers ever. Glitches galore in every one of their games. |
Nocturnalize
11.12.15 | game sux |
Storm In A Teacup
11.12.15 | I don't remember Dishonored having bugs. I love Skyrim Morrowind and New Vegas but the rest isn't appealing. Although I would love to try Daggerfall. |
Mongi123
11.12.15 | Though New Vegas wasn't developed by them, it was trash. A horrible experience honestly. Never played Morrowind, but Oblivion was boring as fuck. As I said though, I liked Fallout 3 and Skyrim a lot. Nothing mind blowing though, even though they fucking nailed the environment in Fallout 3. |
Sinternet
11.12.15 | 'Oblivion was boring as fuck'
'I liked Skyrim a lot'
wat |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.15 | both were fun |
Piglet
11.12.15 | "but apparently this game is getting "hammered" lmao"
uhm. it is. 78% is actually a low approval on steam. And it's hanging around 4.8 userscore on metacritic- just a bit different from a game like skyrim which is 8.0. That is the definition of getting hammered.
also mongi wtf fallout nv runs in the same good vein as 1 and 2 |
Mongi123
11.12.15 | What does "casual as fuck" even mean?? Opinions dude. FO3 was better in every possible way. It's been a while since I've played either mind you, but I remember genuinely having a great time with FO3, but hating New Vegas. Don't know what to tell ya. |
Aftertheascension
11.12.15 | Mass effect sucks[2] |
Mongi123
11.12.15 | Fair enough, I mean those games were released like years ago and that's when I played them. I may feel differently now, but those were my experiences. I never really loved the stories in the Fallout games, but the environments always mesmerized me. |
Futures
11.12.15 | snox sucks the fun out of everything |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.15 | its true tho pretty ambitious projects, obviously gonna be some bugs. |
emester
11.12.15 | didn't bring my piss4 up to school with me and the game is waiting for me at home. The wait is crippling |
Aftertheascension
11.12.15 | Fallout 3 didn't grab my attention like Skyrim did. Not at all. |
Piglet
11.12.15 | Yeah OvDeath I don't hold the sentiment that others do; that the game's integrity is marred by bugs and system requirements. Though they are cankerous problems they aren't really the big ones, because all these niggles will get patched and other gameplay mechanics further enhanced by mods. But you can't mod lard trough characters and good proper roleplaying for the storyfagging your pisstake of a human shell wants to do. I hate to draw comparisons, but Witcher 3 really showed how to do it so well. The environs, the lore, the story, the choices you make- it just has so much grit and heart. Goddamn love that game- and what a soundtrack! Even Dragon Age Inquisition I enjoyed, in the way you generally do a modern Bioware Cinematic Polished Rectal Excrement. Because even though it isn't a shepherd's pie, it's not a potato either. Fuckin I just hoped bethestha was going to improve on the cummery they dug up in Skyrim, you just started to feel like they were progressing away from the empty hiking simulators of Oblivion and Fallout 3. |
Funeralopolis
11.12.15 | I'm sure however bad Fallout 4 it could never be as complete shit as Skyrim. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
11.12.15 | ^^^tbh u can weed out the complete nerd fgs from the normal people by how much they hate skyrim
not surprised funeral falls into the former category |
Keyblade
11.12.15 | man i wish i had the time to sit down and enjoy an rpg these days rip |
Storm In A Teacup
11.12.15 | I should test video games. I did things in Arkham Knight in my first ten minutes where people who completed it were like wtf how did you do that.
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Storm In A Teacup
11.12.15 | "Fuckin I just hoped bethestha was going to improve on the cummery they dug up in Skyrim, you just started to feel like they were progressing away from the empty hiking simulators of Oblivion and Fallout 3. "
Wow. Somehow that was the only thing you said that made sense and I agreed with. |
Piglet
11.12.15 | happy to hear we found mutual ground mister dankham knight chosen one |
Storm In A Teacup
11.12.15 | mm, dank, yes |
Funeralopolis
11.12.15 | 'Oh no I lost an artifact at the end of one of 500 caves that look exactly the same and go and retrieve for a reward that is completely useless.' This is actually enticing game play to someone as stupid as pots. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.12.15 | that sounds rather dreadful. Gonna go play Divinity now. |
TheGreatQ
11.12.15 | "however, the rpg elements have been streamlined and simplified yet again, the dialogue is the worst in bethesda history, and the main story imo so far is forgettable and plain, and a lot of people who have finished are saying the same thing."
And this is why I'll be buying it used when it's $20. |
ConcubinaryCode
11.12.15 | Sometimes game elements are streamlined for the sake of fun. Who the Fuck actually likes repairing their weapons and armor every other step? |
Keyblade
11.12.15 | people who want the game to feel more ~authentic~ |
TheGreatQ
11.12.15 | Never found the decay in prior games to be excessive. |
Futures
11.12.15 | what's the point of comparing the original games to the new ones? |
TheGreatQ
11.12.15 | I meant Bethesda games. |
Keyblade
11.12.15 | it's almost as if a new game is supposed to be...different
it's like people comparing that new 007 movie to ones from the 70's and ish lol |
Archael
11.12.15 | game is fun you nerdz
n i thought i was a loser |
Source
11.12.15 | Halo 5 is a bad game. Fallout 4 is not. |
Futures
11.12.15 | jesus christ dude. you seriously suck the life out of these conversations |
Source
11.12.15 | What? |
Futures
11.12.15 | was talking to snox |
Archael
11.12.15 | not u, source |
Source
11.12.15 | Wish this site would provide us with the ability to respond to specific comments. |
Futures
11.12.15 | yeah it's super cringe and really weird. it's just sucking the life out of what is a really fun game. |
Tyrannic
11.12.15 | Game is fun you nerdz [2] |
Archael
11.12.15 | well gotta give him props for caring about that kinda stuff so much
i wish i could do that :/ lore in video games can be so riveting, despite being so hugely ignored by hxc fans and casuals alike. as for me, i ain't go no time for dat shit x.x |
Keyblade
11.12.15 | "The only thing I have gathered from this thread is that all Snox cares about is the fact that the game sticks to "the lore" of the originals. I've heard of worshipping the kvlt-factor before, but Snox manages to take it to new extremes."
not surprising really as his music taste is kinda the same. more power to him, wish i had the time to really get into games like that |
Futures
11.12.15 | stop embarrassing yourself |
Futures
11.12.15 | piss on things relentlessly without a modicum of respect for the topic at hand or even myseLF
it's a video game. get a grip
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Futures
11.12.15 | i'm not the only one that thinks that man. but go ahead and continue to make an ass out of yourself. you are getting mighty angry over a video game. |
Futures
11.12.15 | haha man you are totally mad. writing full paragraphs while i just don't give a shit |
Futures
11.12.15 | just settle down dude |
ConcubinaryCode
11.12.15 | Yall nigs need to chill f'real |
ConcubinaryCode
11.12.15 | And I swear I came across wonderglue so often in f3 and now that it has an actual purpose it seems so rare. I need those mods |
Storm In A Teacup
11.12.15 | Looks like I'd enjoy Fallout 1 and 2 and 4 since I love New Vegas and thought Fallout 3 was only average. |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | my god this thread exploded |
DinosaurJones
11.12.15 | I'M SURE I'LL PLAY IT EVENTUALLY. |
BloodSweatandBeers
11.12.15 | "my god this thread exploded " nd futures one it |
DinosaurJones
11.12.15 | Meh, I disagree.
How does the guy going LOL U MAD win an argument? |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | lets remember the point guys
game stinks |
DinosaurJones
11.12.15 | That's disappointing.
TBH, I haven't played any of the new Fallout games (I've only played 1 & 2). I'm sure I'll get around to playing them, I actually have 3 & NV downloaded on my computer. |
ConcubinaryCode
11.12.15 | Game rules. |
Vakarian12
11.12.15 | Game rules. [2]
Just took my first trip across the Glowing Sea. It was amazing |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | @ovdeath
right its just me nitpicking
not the rest of the vocally upset RPG community or anything or the people who can't continue with their save file because bethesda hasn't fixed bugs from 7 years ago |
Aftertheascension
11.12.15 | who doesn't back up their saves?
Edit: Stop, futures. |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | theres more to it than just that lol, why should you have to deal with the same bugs that they dont bother to fix for 8 years
they had the time
they had the budget
they had the knowledge of what the real fans want
but that doesnt matter when you attempt to break through and market your rpg to the entire world. money talks, nothing else does |
Evreaia
11.12.15 | not going to play FO4
FO3 left such a bad experience I'm never touching a FO again. I can handle bug, I can't handle hard crashes every 20 minutes, 5 minutes to save, graphics disappearing constantly, etc.. |
DinosaurJones
11.12.15 | That's definitely true. Gamers just like to find the things that bother them and zero in on that, rather than focus on the enjoyable things.
Well, I guess that's also a social commentary as well as a gamer commentary. |
Madbutcher3
11.12.15 | i mean i bet it's good but i could play a game that starts with "under" ends in "tale" and has a considerably higher skeleton content? |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | ovdeath
fun is enjoying quest lines that are unique and dont feel like fetch quests with stupid characters that say dumb things
fun is a real role playing system not this watered down skyrim far cry hybrid
fun in an RPG imo is the depth of conversations, where you dont necessarily have a dialogue wheel but at times can give multiple answers, everything in this game so far is yes no sarcastic or give me more info
fun is wanting to know where the story is going
the enjoyable elements to this game so far is massive content, running around a bethesda world and doing whatever I want
whenever I approach actual content like main quest or side stuff it seems so much more one dimensional than I usually like my RPGs to be. i dont see how any of these criticisms aren't fair. Im sorry, but with these types of games I like to be roped in by the story and content. the dialogue is offensively stupid in this game, not just bad so you can ignore it, but offensively stupid |
Madbutcher3
11.12.15 | Yeah true, don't really look for time consumption as a factor myself but I can see why it'd matter to some. In fact the only really long RPG I enjoyed was Persona 3, otherwise I prefer to stick to shorter, more linear RPGs like KOTOR.
What I would say is that Bethesda can get away with more of their inherent faults as designers (somewhat monotonous worlds visually, bland npcs) because Fallout is practically based on that as a visual concept. |
Source
11.12.15 | "what the real fans want"
rofl |
ConcubinaryCode
11.12.15 | I'm not really liKing this whole trend of gamers who act superior more than everyone else because they don't like a critically acclaimed game as much as everyone else. It seemed to start with Skyrim a few months after launch and now it's happening more often with games like bioshock infinite, last of us, and this. |
Keyblade
11.12.15 | those don't sound like fun but rather reasons to jerk urself off for playing a ~deep~ game |
trve
11.12.15 | any kingdom hearts is better agreed |
ConcubinaryCode
11.12.15 | Kingdom hearts is the best rpg tho. Hopefully theyre actually putting serious work into 3 instead of fucking around like they usually do. They have another remaster coming out in January which is kinda cool. |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | but ovdeath my argument is that the actual content and quests arent fun or imaginative!!!!! |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | its unrealistic for expectations such as a story that isnt offensively stupid, quests that are entertaining and a role playing system that doesn't get shoved to the side with each passing game to implement more actio oriented mechanics?
im enjoying parts of the game and will continue to play until I no longer have the drive too, but I, along with plenty of others, are disappointed with this direction |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | well ovdeath go do some of the a to b fetch quests that we've seen in the last three titles and tell me you are engaged in them to that for 300 hrs
now I will give bestheda credit for one thing. idk why they took away world scaling completely but then offset other rpg elements completely, but man am I glad they did. the world is so much more fun to explore because they removed that. it ruined oblivion imo |
DinosaurJones
11.12.15 | I mean, I'm kind of disappointed with the direction StarCraft has been heading, the story of HotS and the "brutal" mode were laughable, but I still enjoyed them.
On the other hand, LotV is kicking my ass on brutal, which is great. And hot damn if the cinematics aren't amazing. I'm sure I'm going to take issue with some of the story and find things that I don't particularly enjoy, but the experience overall is going to be positive. |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | i found a brewery got to the center of the building and got pooped on and it was cool. but then I did 2 side quests after and they were dum
gonna get home from work today and sprint around the world lol. enjoying the setting quite a bit, and some of the hate from people that the world is "empty" or "disconnected" I think are overkill |
ConcubinaryCode
11.12.15 | Action oriented mechanics ala shooting that doesn't feel like it's from fifteen year old game.
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Madbutcher3
11.12.15 | To be fair there are plenty of reasons not to like Skyrim since it's definitely a game with quantity rather than quality in a lot of aspects. I'm more of a Bioware person since their games tend to be more linear and thus don't really need as much content overall, but even they're getting progressively worse at the issue. |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | transition for bioware from kotor and baldurs gate era to mass effect might be more embarrassing than morrowind to oblivion |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | hated mass effect tbh. honestly thought it was a joke but different strokes different folks man |
ConcubinaryCode
11.12.15 | He hates mass effect too. Big surprise. |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | lol ok |
guitarded_chuck
11.12.15 | it blows my mind how so many people give up their money like donations to some religion for video games before they have any sort of idea of their true value
fucking sheep mannnnnnnnn |
Madbutcher3
11.12.15 | tbh oblivion has an entertainment value far beyond skyrim's because it's badly made and the levelling system makes no sense
I enjoyed Mass Effect when I first played it but there's no point in me replaying it and the dialogue, ect just isn't as good as KOTOR and earlier. Haven't played Jade Empire so I don't know much about the transition between the two.
I hate Dragon Age personally but that's just because I don't like trad-fantasy environments. |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | oblivion is bethesda's worst rpg imo, tho this new game might take the cake
sorry to sound like the oblig rpg hipster but morrowind makes it look like plastic garbage |
ConcubinaryCode
11.12.15 | I really tried to get into Dragon age but just can't and I keep getting told how much worse the sequel is. Mass effect is still pretty Damn good. |
emester
11.12.15 | Probably going to go with my usual stealth/sniper build I usually go for in Bethesda games. From what I gathered I really like how specialization is more crucial than ever, giving way to different ways to play. I am a bit disappointed with how the new dialogue restricts you from seeing the outcome of other dialogue choices. Also seems that there are way less unique weapons than I actually expected, which really bums me out as collecting them was one of my favorite things to do in NV/F3. Overall tho, the game does look spectacular, especially in the coming months after patches weed out the inevitable bugs that plague the usual Beth game |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | @ovdeath
severely doubt the new game has more unique items/weapons that daggerfall or arena, think thats a pretty ridiculous claim tbh |
emester
11.12.15 | Oblivion really didn't click for me honestly. The world, while big, was kinda boring to me. Combat and the UI really did hinder the game the most tho. Also the Oblivion gates felt like chores to clear as the felt so similar. However, the game did have some of the best quests in the Elder Scrolls series, so on that front the game excels. |
guitarded_chuck
11.12.15 | oblivion was fuckng fantastic wtf |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | yea is that like when todd howard said there are infinite quests
and the infinite quests were the same thing over and over |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | oblivion had the worst and most uninspired world design in any bethesda rpg. and right after morrowind too, which could possibly have the best world ive ever seen in an rpg. or at least its my favorite |
JWT155
11.12.15 | I loved Oblivion :/ |
emester
11.12.15 | Just thought of how great its gonna be to personalize my favorite fallout weapons (hunting rifle, gauss rifle) to my personal tastes. Still have to wait about 2 weeks or so to actually play the damn thing tho |
JWT155
11.12.15 | Oblivion Daedric Quests were awesome as well as all the separate faction questlines (Thieves Guild FTW). |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | lol every place in oblivion was the same, most copy paste design ever for bethesda, all the cities and towns with the exception of a few looked and felt the same, the world scaling is the worst ever made, oblivion gates got so stupid over time, i mean i could go on. ovdeath just curious if u have played morrowind |
emester
11.12.15 | Cyrodill (hope Im saying it right but i doubt it) felt a bit vanilla for a fantasy rpg world. It was deep, especially for its time, but honestly it lacked any distinct characteristics. |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | its rlly not a completely different game. vehemently disagree. difference in oblivion: less role-playing elements, quest marker addition. morrowind plays, aside from those and a few other differences the same in terms of presentation that oblivion, skyrim, fallout 3 and 4 do. curious to hear why you think its so different
and emester totally agree and for me its an understatement. it lacked anything distinct just felt like a big green let down. dungeons were at times, copy paste. morrowind and skyrim each one was hand crafted, not the case with oblivion, thats a fact. it just felt so plastic and lazy from the content perspective, but it was a move for bethesda that allowed them to focus on other things and begin to hit the mainstream and align with the new console gen of the time |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | however I will say the dark brotherhood questline was top notch. one in skyrim blew |
JWT155
11.12.15 | I think Oblivion was a perfect balance between old school RPG's facets and options paired with the practicality of an FPS styled game. |
Madbutcher3
11.12.15 | Oblivion was fun but in the kinda janky way lots of crappy new games try to emulate. The illogical levelling system and the ease in massacring towns and some of the individual silly moments like the Adoring fan made it pretty fun. The actual deliberate game aspects were weak af but hey at least plot important npcs went flying when you shot arrows at them |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | morrowind has complex tales of slave trade, entire towns built by flying mages so they didnt put any stairs, underground systems riddled with drug addicts, an unbelievably unique, middle eastern inspired architecture groups
oblivion had tha adoring fan |
Slex
11.12.15 | Starless I've cut myself on all of ur edge, please kiss it better
Tbh tho Morrowind, Oblivion, FO3, Skyrim, and FO4 are all like in my top 20 games |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | my edge cannot be refuted |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | fo4 is in ur top 20 games?
its been out for 48 hrs |
Sinternet
11.12.15 | wtf people hating mass effect how is that even possible |
ConcubinaryCode
11.12.15 | http://gfycat.com/DaringConstantArmedcrab |
JWT155
11.12.15 | Mass Effect was all right, I really just want another in depth game like KOTOR or Jade Empire. |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | bioware wont ever make one again |
Calc
11.12.15 | "bioware wont ever make one again"
but other companies do so go out and look eg. divinity:original sin and pillars of eternity. |
DinosaurJones
11.12.15 | Divinity is soooo good |
Gwyn.
11.12.15 | "wtf people hating mass effect how is that even possible"
Probably because it wasn't very good |
Gyromania
11.12.15 | "Fallout 3 and Skyrim are pretty great, but as a whole Bethesda is one of the most overrated developers ever. Glitches galore in every one of their games."
you can't seriously expect there not to be glitches in a game world as huge as fallout 4 though... i mean come on - even gta5 is riddled with bugs. it's a huge undertaking for the engine trying to render everything. future patches will come out to address any persistent issues, but in the meantime there doesn't appear to be anything game-breaking. |
Gyromania
11.12.15 | also mass effect 2 is definitely one of the best games ever made gwyn. don't know wth you're on about |
Source
11.12.15 | Most people seem to hate the entire series because of ME3's ending |
Calc
11.12.15 | people loved the series until that singular point proving that people are stupid. |
Source
11.12.15 | Yep |
Gwyn.
11.12.15 | The gameplay was pretty fun but the plot was littered with holes and if you take the third game into account it's literally pointless
I remember thinking the opposite of the first one
Also I never played the third one I just read about it so the ending has nothing to do with it |
Gyromania
11.12.15 | i haven't played the third game yet, actually. but the second game didn't appear to have any gaping holes, and the way your social relationships developed as the game moved on, it was genius. i actually found myself caring for how sheppard interacted with the characters and what they thought of him. some seriously good writing if you ask me |
ConcubinaryCode
11.12.15 | 2 had the best characters and I found myself invested in my crew especially after the loyalty missions. I thought those were well created missions and the choices you had to make throughout the game were difficult. Idk why the third game cut out all the different characters to just mostly npc roles. |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | Calc:
loved original sin, loved what I played of pillars but stopped when I went back to school one semester.
and of course from software and cd projekt red are the kings of the industry right now imo, with obsidian and larian close behind |
RadicalEd
11.12.15 | so people don't like mass effect anymore? |
JWT155
11.12.15 | With things like games, I feel like people become overtly critical of old games when they forget the context built around when they came out and what the industry was like back then. Maybe games like Oblivion, Halo 2, COD 4, etc may feel outdated and subpar compared to newer games, but they were pushing the industry and mind blowing when they came out. |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | only thing abt oblivion that blew my mind was how every town was the same |
JWT155
11.12.15 | Fact a huge RPG like that could operate on a Console at that time was astounding. |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | agreed
and they sacrificed the content to make it happen |
Calc
11.12.15 | only game from from software i ever liked was lost kingdoms. |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | wow man that makes me sad
demons souls and dks1 are absolutely masterful |
Gyromania
11.12.15 | dark souls 1 and 2 are two of the best games ever made dude wtf |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | no not 2
but demons and dks1 def r |
Aftertheascension
11.12.15 | Dark souls sucks
Hit, run away before he hits you, rinse and repeat. |
Storm In A Teacup
11.12.15 | wait a minute...ov is snox? good lord im out of here. see you guys in another year or two. sorry you all have to deal with him. |
Aftertheascension
11.12.15 | who the fuck is snox
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Storm In A Teacup
11.12.15 | Michael Kayfabe Snoxall. He's an absolutely horrible person. People try to murder him after getting to know him. |
iambandersnatch
11.12.15 | if anyone actually thought this game was going to be the bees knees they were kidding themselves. You know what you're getting with bethesda.. decent game because of how huge the game is and such, but the gameplay and characters will be average. |
Futures
11.12.15 | yeah snox is the worst user ever |
Aftertheascension
11.12.15 | What did he do to deserve the title? |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | not a good representation of combat in dks lol |
Slex
11.12.15 | I mean i'm kinda assuming FO4 will be in my top 20 cuz it's better than any Bethesda game besides Morrowind
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Slex
11.12.15 | Dark Souls 1, 2, and Bloodborne are fucking so great |
StarlessCore
11.12.15 | prolly not but dam straight that it doesnt beat morrowind! nothing does baby |
TheSonomaDude
11.12.15 | My frat has been playing this all fucking week holy shit |
Calc
11.13.15 | so for 2 days? |
Wadlez
11.13.15 | Shouldn't your frat be chasing girls? |
klap
11.13.15 | "I've played plenty of Morrowind, it's a completely different game and I do not care for it. I don't like RPGs of that old school style in the 3D world like Morrowind was."
what does that last sentence even mean |
Futures
11.13.15 | lmao |
SharkTooth
11.13.15 | I think he doesn't like 3d rpgs from the early 2000s
that's just my guess |
klap
11.13.15 | i'm not really sure how it's "old school style" relative to oblivion or skyrim unless the new school is dumbed down gameplay |
klap
11.13.15 | i dk i think the amount of text is pretty equivalent in all the elder scrolls games. it's the same type of gameplay as oblivion and skyrim just more depth. more quests, more interesting areas, in general more things to do. only thing better in latter elder scroll games (which i still like a lot) is the combat and fast travel. also the fact they got rid of levitation after morrowind is bs |
Parallels
11.13.15 | "I just want a sonic adventure 3 with no fishing or treasure hunting bullshit."
holy shit this |
RosaParks
11.13.15 | good game |
Pennywise_M
11.13.15 | bump for shits and giggles |
Nocturnalize
11.13.15 | "I just want a sonic adventure 3 with no fishing or treasure hunting bullshit."
holy shit this [2] |
Captain3
11.16.15 | Been playing since its release. Not better than 3 but still amazing |
Tyler.
11.16.15 | Fallout 4 is great. So is the mass effect series |
Slex
11.17.15 | Fallout 4 is a trillion times better than 3 and 3 was previously in my like top 5 so yuh |
