MistaCrave
12.02.16 | Anybody have any ideas? |
Funeralopolis
12.02.16 | genres so good you have to post about it |
Masochist
12.02.16 | Literally, it means "after," or "following" (as in, Post-9/11). In terms of music, it can be described as taking the sounds and sensibilities of a genre and stretching them to their furthest possible meanings to create a new genre.
A genre like "Post-Hardcore" took the Hardcore punk sound (fast, hard, dissonant with growled lyrics and simple, minimal chord progressions), and through natural change and evolution after being adapted from one band to another (kind of like a game of Telephone), formulated itself into a more melodic, complex genre, but one where you can still hear how the Hardcore Punk roots have influenced the music (most post-hardcore bands still have dissonant guitars and growled or screamed vocals, even as the guitar and drum parts became much more extravagant).
It's very much like "Proto" means "prior to," and so you can see the inklings of a genre like Punk in "Proto-Punk," but those sensibilities have not quite fully formed yet. |
50iL
12.02.16 | Yeah I agree with Maso, it's taking the genre's characteristics to a certain extremity |
RoundOnEndHiInMiddle
12.02.16 | basically it means what it implies: an evolution past the norms of the current genre. only when it becomes widespread enough does it become a genre of its own |
Sevengill
12.02.16 | it can also mean a reaction to, I think. post-metal is metal that discards the tropes of theatricality and predictability for a more introspective and evolving style ("thinking man's metal," Aaron Turner insists on calling it). |
ScuroFantasma
12.02.16 | ^maso has go you covered. I'll just add that extremity doesn't always mean the most crazy or chaotic etc. In the case of post-rock/post-metal it's a development of the style that stretches in a really atmospheric/exploratory direction. |
50iL
12.02.16 | Or/and experimental |
MarsKid
12.02.16 | Post-rock was mainly formed by a desire to expand further into the capabilities of the guitar. Rather than opting for straight-forward songs, bands opted for more lush timbres and gradual progression. Post-metal follows in a similar vein, just with different genre influence. |
zaruyache
12.02.16 | whereas post-black metal is literally just a combination of post-rock and black metal (and often shoegaze, but that's if you're counting post-black and blackgaze as being the same thing). Post-rock was originally meant as a classifying term for the band Bark Psychosis, and became a genre tag for bands doing similar things. |
ZippaThaRippa
12.02.16 | Post is like when people take an idea that was originally good and then water it down and ruin it. |
Masochist
12.02.16 | extremity doesn't always mean the most crazy or chaotic etc. In the case of post-rock/post-metal it's a development of the style that stretches in a really atmospheric/exploratory direction.
This is true, as is what Sevengill stated. Post-Punk is the same--more atmospheric, more moody. And where post-hardcore went more complex, post-punk went almost the exact opposite direction, so it could be seen as almost like an anti-punk. |
SharkTooth
12.02.16 | post literally means "after" like Masochist said |
Relinquished
12.02.16 | 4, 5, and 15 aren't post-metal. don't spread misinformation thnx. |
MistaCrave
12.02.16 | @Shark obviously you can take the definition of the word and substitute into the name of the genre, but I don't think that answers the question. I agree with what Maso said about it being a deeper, more complex exploration into a genre. I think that confusion can arise when two different subgenres which take the respective genres which they are modifying in two totally directions have the same prefix slapped into the genre tag. |
TheSpaceMan
12.02.16 | It means after
Next |
Astral Abortis
12.02.16 | It all depends on the genre. In music there's no "one" definition for how "post-" is applied.
In the case of post-punk, it was coined literally because that style was the next big explosion after punk music.
In the case of post-bop, it was coined long after the movement ever took place in order to try and classify what some of the genre's biggest innovators were even doing.
In the case of post-rock, it was used to describe the fact that the bands in the style were playing music with all of rock's staple instrument, whilst playing a style that was wholly not-rock music. I believe that one was coined by a music reviewer to describe Bark Psychosis.
Post-hardcore was named as an evolution of hardcore music with its incorporation of experimental rock, noise rock, emo, post-punk, etc., like it was a naturally occurring extension of what hardcore was, thus post-hardcore in nature.
For post-metal, it was much more kind of literal in the sense of blending sludge sensibilities with post-rock's anti-musical qualities, so to speak. Thus metal + post-rock = post-metal.
More recently, people have just kinda started slapping it on anything that incorporates post-rock songwriting or structuring, so it's becoming a more streamlined way to say "post-rock + something else" now. |
Relinquished
12.02.16 | thank you snox
/thread |
Cygnatti
12.02.16 | Post = after |
TheSpaceMan
12.02.16 | Push to make post-math rock
Aftermath rock
I'm fucking hilarious |
ZippaThaRippa
12.02.16 | That was dece |
Asdfp277
12.02.16 | it means it might be slightly better than the original genre |
SpiritCrusher2
12.02.16 | you're dumb for asking this question tbh |
TheSpaceMan
12.02.16 | Does that make us dumb for responding? |
SpiritCrusher2
12.02.16 | yes |
Tyler.
12.02.16 | Any genre with post in it probably sucks |
Astral Abortis
12.02.16 | Nobody's dumb for asking questions |
TheSpaceMan
12.02.16 | "Nobody's dumb for asking questions"
am i? |
Calc
12.02.16 | masochist answered the question already. |
SpiritCrusher2
12.02.16 | yea you are spaceman
you're dumb always babe |
teamster
12.02.16 | Maso - spot on brother |
