bigboss00: Post Punk & Pop?

Colton 08.17.20	I also discovered Talking Heads and Carly Rae Jepsen this year (well, I knew who she was but I discovered her music is actually good) so I feel you
philbert08 08.17.20	I've recently got into post-punk as well. Been LOVING The Chameleons and Kino from post land and The Stone Roses for more of a pop sound. All from the 80s My first stepping stone was The Smiths back in college. And for years I disregarded the 80s...
BlondeGuardian 08.17.20	You may enjoy the album Forever Young by Alphaville. Start with "Big in Japan" and "Sounds Like a Melody". If you want to see just how much pop you can take, try Modern Talking's singles.
ArsMoriendi 08.17.20	Kate Bush is the best 80s pop, try her album Hounds of Love
Colton 08.17.20	I'm still not really clear what post punk is, every post punk band I listen to sounds different
Colton 08.17.20	Pretty sure it's basically just rock music that's a little weird
Sharkattack 08.17.20	Check Positive Noise
MillionDead 08.17.20	No post punk definitely evolved from punk rock. Not just any old rock.
bigboss00 08.17.20	I think it has something to do with repetition. At least that’s the linking factor for me.
Colton 08.17.20	I know it evolved from punk, I just feel like the actual definition is kinda unclear. Cause I don't really hear any punk influence in a band like Talking Heads, but with Protomartyr I do. Might just be cause of my own ignorance towards punk though. I mostly only know modern punk.
Sharkattack 08.17.20	Talking heads is kinda just punk back when punk was more ambiguous and open/minded.
bigboss00 08.17.20	The album I listed is Talking Heads with a lot of electronic elements. If you look at their earlier albums you can see more how they relate to Joy Division and others. Same with the Cure album I have. This is my favorite one of theirs but it’s not necessarily their most punk. Again you would have to look at their earlier albums for that.
ReturnToRock 08.18.20	Post-punk is basically anti-punk. If you take the Sex Pistols as the ur-example of 'the punk sound' (or what people think 'the punk sound' is), and then you try to think of what the opposite of the Pistols sounds like...you mostly get the template for the post-punk sound.
MillionDead 08.18.20	But you get post-punk that still has normal punk riffs and the drum beats are often the same. There's a lot of commingling and cross-pollination happening. You should check out The Boys Next Door's self titled, boss. Catchy af post-punk.
Colton 08.18.20	yeah BigBoss I've heard all the early albums and never really heard a punk sound in them tbh
Colton 08.18.20	I don't really understand that ReturnToRock. that's like saying Stranger In The Alps is post death metal cause it sounds like the opposite of Ulcerate or something
MillionDead 08.18.20	Yeah, I personally hear post-punk as punk with a much more experimental slant. It took on characteristics from music outside of punk to become something unique. It might be in response to the stagnation/simplicity of standard punk, but it's still has a lot of the original punk DNA in it.
ReturnToRock 08.19.20	@Cole not really. Unless Stranger In The Alps was created as a direct response to the brutal death metal scene. Post-punk was a direct and declared attempt to counter the abrasive don't-give-a-fuck sound of the original punk scene with something more sophisticated and pompous (in the pomp-rock sense) while still avoiding the excesses of the previous decade. That's why I see it as the anti-punk sound, in the same way punk was the anti-prog sound. Hopefully that makes more sense.