Trebor.
06.30.22 | You can't judge Radiohead based solely off of The Bends lol
You're gonna run into this problem a lot if you try to go chronologically with new bands |
ArsMoriendi
06.30.22 | Radiohead doesn’t reach classic status til the 2000s tbh |
bludngorevidal
06.30.22 | I hear you re: King Crimson. I find their jazzier/fusion work to be quite nice; if you're looking for a rec, try their EP VROOOM. |
Divaman
06.30.22 | Re/progressive rock - I think the issue you're getting hit with is there are a lot of styles of progressive rock - it's usually rock blended with something else. I like King Crimson when Crimson when they're melodic (like on the song "Court of the Crimson Kind", but I find Lark's Tongue difficult to digest. |
YoYoMancuso
06.30.22 | listening to an artist's output in sequential order is never a requirement |
KevinKC
06.30.22 | I discovered Radiohead with Hail to the Thief. I liked it a lot. Didn't like the rest of their discography. |
rockarollacola
06.30.22 | I always go chronologically because I enjoy hearing how an artists' sound progresses over time. It kinda feels wrong to start on a random album in the middle of their discog.
I was really close to giving up on Deep Purple because their early material was so bland, but I'm glad I stuck it out; because they released some killer stuff with Gillan and Coverdale. |
asanisimasa
06.30.22 | you wont hear the progression if you quit though. especially on the 2nd album |
sonictheplumber
06.30.22 | bad taste |
Rolling Girl
06.30.22 | Not sure if "gave up on" is the right phrase if you weren't really into an artist in the first place. But I still struggle to sit through Radiohead or King Crimson albums lol. |
Viriathus
06.30.22 | King Crimson's debut is boredom outside of the opener, has been like that for me since I was a kid, though Moonchild gets a bit weirder than the stagnant mellotron Symphonic Rock that plagues the album, which to me is pretty tedious to sit through. If you ask me they really never got amazing til they went all out on the Jazz/Fusion experimentation on Starless and onwards. They really went all out and got much more free in their playing. |
pizzamachine
06.30.22 | Moar like Radiopleb |
Deez
06.30.22 | Never like radio head but my friend but in rainbows on a few months ago then I watched that 'in the basement ' and now I'm in the edge of the darkside
Giving up on a bands after it's first albums while enjoyed it's latter seems totally back to front to me. Loads of bands I live that I might not enjoy their early stuff |
MrSirLordGentleman
06.30.22 | Oh you should definitely give UFO another try m8. Essential hard rock/heavy metal so you should dig it. Their first two albums are of a more proggy/spacey vibe but it is exactly from their third album onwards that the quality truly appears. '74-'78 UFO is top tier guitar rock. Michael Schenker is one of the best guitarists ever after all |
Space Jester
06.30.22 | 1. Yea this is fine, idk about “world’s greatest prog metal band” but they were really great and sadly fell off after Promised Land
2. One of the greatest prog bands and probably just bands in general, idk what to say here except ur WEAK
3. Guessing you just don’t like grind. However idk why you wouldn’t go back and jam the stuff you know you enjoyed
4. Yea you probably won’t enjoy a ton of their stuff after this point, although a lot of people swear by Come Clarity and I think it’s pretty good, I even like A Sense of Purpose a decent amount
5. Never listened to this band
6. Stopping with The Bends was a bad idea cause they don’t stick to this sound in the slightest and their most interesting stuff is yet to come
7. Never jammed
8. One of the best thrash bands ever, again ur WEAK. Toxik does rule tho agreed |
SharkTooth
06.30.22 | >going thru artists chronologically
Why |
MrSirLordGentleman
06.30.22 | You get to see how their sound evolves. That's interesting
But it is also a commitment imo. Afterall you should know by the time you start listening to a band if their cool stuff shows up later on their career or not |
SharkTooth
07.01.22 | Honestly that sounds like a time waste if you've never checked the artist out before. If you don't even know whether you'll like them, why would you do this to yourself? |
FR33L0RD
07.01.22 | King Crimson: Red/Thrack/Vroom/Three of a Perfect Pair are more accessible, imo.
Chrono/anti-chrono/worst first/best first/random, any of these can be pick and choose.
Exploration outside our confort zone is good even with bands that dont connect.
From time to time, returning to this zone is also useful. Sometimes, revisit LP finally click or not. Everything is fine. Cheers! |
deathofasalesman
07.01.22 | start listening to pantera chronologically
good luck even making it to cowboys from hell |
Wildcardbitchesss
07.01.22 | Q2K is dogshit but Right Side of My Mind fucking rules. its insane a song that good was on that fucking record |
SharkTooth
07.01.22 | "Exploration outside our confort zone is good even with bands that dont connect.
From time to time, returning to this zone is also useful."
This is generally true, but why would you slog through a band's worse albums if you want to get a feel for them? Case in point being the UFO and Radiohead entries. Radiohead's main album of acclaim is OK Computer, guy didn't even seem to try that out, and UFO's first 2 albums have averages in the low 3's, and it looks like he gave up before even trying out the albums immediately after that have 4+ averages. If you're gonna get a feel for a band at least try the stuff that people rave about y'know? |
Wildcardbitchesss
07.01.22 | and space, I'd call them the worlds best prog band. Mindcrime is goated imo |
FR33L0RD
07.01.22 | @Shark, “worse first” not to use when the band is completely foreign. Agreed.
This is why the pick & choose discog technic should be use contextually, for each band explore. Indeed, “best first” is a good first impression discog technic. Agreed. |
sonictheplumber
07.01.22 | shit ass list. fuck you fucker! |
Space Jester
07.01.22 | @Wildcard Idk Queensryche obviously have several classics and they were influential but more than half their discography isn't really worth listening to. Fates Warning is a much better example of influence combined with consistency, I think they're a better nominee |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.01.22 | You stopped before Radiohead ever got good |
Spec
07.01.22 | Hard agree. You blew it (you’re blowing it) with Radiohead my guy. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.01.22 | “ fucking hate progressive rock, but I seriosuly enjoyed Rush,”
If you enjoy the second worst prog band of all time do you reallllly get to say you hate prog? |
Space Jester
07.01.22 | Have you heard every prog band ever made to be able to say they're the second worst |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.01.22 | Yes and you can’t prove otherwise |
Space Jester
07.01.22 | I think Rush and King Crimson are the only prog bands actually so ur right |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
07.01.22 | No brother there is also dream theatre |
SIMBOLIC
07.01.22 | “ Yes and you can’t prove otherwise”
That made me laugh like a retard on my bus thanks potsy |
SIMBOLIC
07.01.22 | Btw stopping Radiohead on the bends is like stopping sex before you cum then saying “yeah I guess sex doesn’t live up to my expectations “ |
Spec
07.01.22 | It’s a scary leap to make but you’re never gonna make it past “Oasis is the greatest band of all time” levels unless you jump. |
rockarollacola
07.01.22 | I'm surprised that starting at the beginning of a discography and working your way through is abnormal. I thought that's how most people listen to discogs... |
SharkTooth
07.01.22 | honestly most people here do not, if you look at the ratings of many popular artists, you'll find a lot of the lower rated albums have fewer votes on them than the ones considered classics
it is much more a case of people checking out the "classics" first and foremost, then moving on to lower rated stuff
same thing happens on RYM and progarchvies |
Snake.
07.01.22 | hey don’t feel bad I also check discogs in chronological order |
rockarollacola
07.01.22 | 'bad taste"
"shit ass list. fuck you fucker!"
the fuck is your major malfunction? What prompted you to post two similar comments? |
FR33L0RD
07.01.22 | The most important aspect of a discog check are open mind/motivation/fun.
Do it your way, experiment. And, Snake is right, same for me, i do it in all the positions, hue! varieties including chrono, it depends how i feel about the band when i am on his front page database. Cheers! |
rockarollacola
07.01.22 | I always go into a discog optimistic. Discovering more music to enjoy is always a good thing, so I always go in with the mentality that I'm going to enjoy the music. |
garas
07.01.22 | Carcass rules if you don't compare everything to Heartwork. Sure their debut wasn't that outstandingly good, but otherwise they are a super consistent band, releasing bangers after bangers, imo. |
rockarollacola
07.01.22 | I might give Carcass another shot, I think the fact their debut was a grind record left a bad taste in my mouth. I seriously can't stand that genre. |
DoofDoof
07.01.22 | 'Radiohead doesn’t reach classic status til the 2000s tbh'
yet 'Ok Computer' still tops the RYM and Sput charts hmm, if there's any sort of measure of whether there's a 'consensus classic' that's prob a reasonable one to go with |
DickLeggingtonThe3rd
07.01.22 | Agreed on radiohead. they are good, nothing more, nothing less |
combustion07
07.01.22 |
07.01.22
[Report this Post] Btw stopping Radiohead on the bends is like stopping sex before you cum then saying “yeah I guess sex doesn’t live up to my expectations"
Lmao! I need to give Radiohead another shot tbh. If anyone has a rec on best place to start send it my way. |
TheAntichrist
07.01.22 | eric zann is mekong's best ablum ya fvckin' tard |
Sabrutin
07.01.22 | "Q2K is no exaggeration, one of the worst albums I’ve heard in my entire life"
lol that's such a dramatic take for an album that still had good performances (especially drumming) and isn't fully devoid of writing chops (Right Side of My Mind, the crescendo of Breakdown, the second half of How Could I that could have been part of Empire, the attack of the guitar/drums in the solo of One Life...) |
BenThatsMyJamin
07.01.22 | I can understand the appeal in listening to a band chronologically but sometimes a band's sound and/or personnel changes so much between two albums that the only thing tying the two albums together is the band name. They might as well have started a new band under a different name, and then you wouldn't be listening to their early stuff E.g. UFO completely change their sound after UFO 2 from space rock to blues-y hard rock. The addition of Michael Schenker changed their sound and started their 'proper' era. As someone else here mentioned, same for Pantera.
Re: King Crimson, they don't light me on fire either but even if you listen to nothing else you HAVE to listen to Starless (the song). Honestly one of the greatest songs of all time |
SharkTooth
07.01.22 | @Combustion07
the 3 albums that are considered the band's best are OK Computer, Kid A, and In Rainbows
OK Computer is alt rock that goes in a proggier/artsier direction, Kid A is the group going into electronica, I haven't heard In Rainbows so idk how to describe it but I do know some consider it their best
I say check the first 2, since they're very different from one-another, and see if you like either |
InfernalDeity
07.01.22 | Radiohead take was wild |
FR33L0RD
07.02.22 | Same, i like Carcass but dislike their debut grind LP |