24gadjet: Moral dilemma

24gadjet 11.01.16	lol @ myself for coming to sput for emotional support what a l o s e r
DinosaurJones 11.01.16	Have they made any attempt to seek professional help? Being a good friend is great and all, but there's only so much you can do. I'm guessing the fact that you mentioned meds means they've at least tried it (I hope).
Rolling Girl 11.01.16	Yeah professional help is the best bet. At the very least you could create some kind of support network around said friend, but professionals would know how to handle it all.
Sinternet 11.01.16	have sexual intercourse
rabidfish 11.01.16	if they are really your friends they'll understand what you're going thru... Just say that you love 'em, but you can't deal with their shit 24/7. Get a sodding life. SEX [2]
DarkSideOfLucca 11.01.16	Nah man, I've vented on Sputnik about very serious things before as well. It's a hell of a much better place to do it than facebook or whatever. Speaking as someone who has clinical depression, yeah I'm gonna have to be a broken record and say professional help. I'm sure they wouldn't want to push you into a downward spiral if they knew they were doing that, man. You're a good person for helping.
DarkSideOfLucca 11.01.16	Oh yeah, and also sex [3]
24gadjet 11.01.16	boys I'm posting an anon list on a music reviewing site to ask for social/emotional advice, what part of that screams 'can get laid at the drop of a hat' that being said theres party at mine on friday, so maybe
DarkSideOfLucca 11.01.16	Hey man, I've done that here and I can also get laid. Lower your standards and drink a lot.
24gadjet 11.01.16	At the moment its mainly this one chick who really inspired this, although its been a lot of people over the last couple years, I'll try and talk to her about professional help
Nocturtle 11.01.16	take advantage of them straight up yo
24gadjet 11.01.16	@Nocturtle proooobably not tbh, for like moral reasons and shiet @DarkSideOfLucca I drink too much as it is lol Rabidfish actually has the best reply in the thread because he said sodding
NutsDeepInGuts 11.01.16	tell them you're always around for support but you you've got your own life to lead and your own problems to deal with. Suggest they seek psychiatric treatment if they're actually suicidal, deter them from drugs as that will only exacerbate mental health problems in the longrun, try and help them to stop wallowing in self loathing, avolition or whatever and to discover interests, possibly even music that can reignite a sense of purpose in their lives. But make the clear distinction that you're not a professional or a magician and you can't help them overcome neurochemical imbalances. But don't take it from me, I've had 2 friends suicide and only later did I realize that I was oblivious to their attempts to reach out to me (I thought the constant digression into morbid discussion was just hypothetical). In my defense no one foresaw their deaths and I don't blame myself at all but anyway this probably isn't the most reassuring comment so I'll just leave it at this - You cant help anybody who doesn't want to help themselves.
DinosaurJones 11.01.16	You cant help anybody who doesn't want to help themselves. [2]
TheCharmingMan 11.01.16	I think it's important that you talk to them about these feelings. I've had many friendships ruined because I simply couldn't handle being there to watch my friends kill themselves; communication is always key. Then again, I'm just a sputniker. sex [4]
FullOfSounds 11.01.16	Your support can only go so far, get them professional help
TheTripP 11.01.16	@NutsDeepInGuts basically has the best response... I understand the situation form both sides (suicide aside), and you'll see the emotional strain things like that can do to you. Misery loves company so understand the situation, communicate, and keep YOUR head high because you'll see yourself falling into the same shitty situation the people who needed you so much for led you into.
sawesomeness 11.01.16	Depression is a chemical imbalance, and there are lots of different types of drugs which treat depression by targeting different chemicals in the brain - they need to find the right meds, and stay on them. They also need to know about the side effects of the medications (usually weight gain) and be okay with that. Also, stay on the meds for over a month because it takes that long for the neurotransmitters to build up in their brain for them to start feeling better - and don't just quit an anti-depressant cold-turkey. Honestly, though, if they've attempted suicide, they've probably already been pink slipped to a psych unit a time or two as a potential harm to themselves or others, and have probably been on and off of medications. Finding the correct meds, a support group, and getting off of any other substances they are on (even alcohol) is the best thing for them. Unfortunately, they have to be willing to make those life changes.
TwigTW 11.01.16	Have you heard of the Samaritans suicide hotline? It’s an anonymous phone hotline open 24/7 and they’ll talk to you about anything that's on your mind--especially suicide--without judgement. You don’t need to be suicidal to call. You can talk about your friends and they'll give you support and suggestions. Also, you can suggest your friends call and talk to them. That way you are not carrying too much of the burden yourself. Like I said, they don’t actually have to be feeling suicidal when they call. It is a place where they can talk about those feelings (or anything) anonymously. It would give them another option when you are not available (for whatever reason). Think about it.
Shiranui 11.01.16	"I no longer feel emotionally equipped to deal" Is usually the point where you would give them advice about having someone professional to look after them.
AsleepInTheBack 11.01.16	Yeah, advise these friends to look into professional help or simply suicide helplines, should hopefully take some of the burden off of you
ZippaThaRippa 11.01.16	Kill your friends, problem solved
ZippaThaRippa 11.01.16	too birds
ZippaThaRippa 11.01.16	http://imgur.com/a/P4GUe
ZippaThaRippa 11.01.16	Too late you fucking bitch, I knew you'd do it
NastyCrab 11.01.16	Make sure they're aware of the Suicide Hotline and also your local 211 helpline. A lot of good advice in this thread (especially the sex) but just remember to take care of yourself OP. Self-care is paramount in general but especially for people who help others. Always remember that you're never responsible for another adult's behavior, despite how much you may feel that way. And last but not least, if they ever make substantial threats against themselves (suicidal thoughts, especially with a plan/method/date and time) don't be afraid to contact emergency services or the police who can have your friend admitted involuntarily for psychiatric evaluation and/or medication stabilization. Proud of you.
DanielNightLewis 11.01.16	You need to take care of yourself so that you can take care of your friends. Tell them how you feel and see if there is a healthy way you can support each other. No one should suffer in silence.
SitruK6 11.01.16	I would probably do the next things: 1) Recommend them to get professional help. going to a psychologist/ therapist will definitely help them and is also perfectly normal. 2) instead of just letting them pour their hearts out, maybe try and encourage them to actually do something about it. We all have good qualities so make sure you remind them what they're good at and hopefully that will make a little change in how they see things. it's pretty hard to give advice about this because i never had a good friend of mine be depressed for a long period of time or have suicidal thoughts. hell if anything i was the the depressive friend.
SitruK6 11.01.16	Also thanks for the shoutout ;) M/
NutsDeepInGuts 11.01.16	ye just tried in vain for 15 minutes to Photoshop the word two onto zippas comment then id call him out but fuck there's a reason im not studying graphic design
ZippaThaRippa 11.01.16	Hey man it's the thought that counts
ZippaThaRippa 11.01.16	http://imgur.com/a/oTSVl
50iL 11.01.16	Just be open with them, they'll understand (if they are indeed your friends). Oh, and sex [5]
NutsDeepInGuts 11.01.16	pls dont use gay as a pejorative term brah you might find yourself in dispute with 60% of the sites userbase
ZippaThaRippa 11.01.16	http://imgur.com/a/CkYiz
ZippaThaRippa 11.01.16	http://imgur.com/a/dKmyo
50iL 11.01.16	lmao
NutsDeepInGuts 11.01.16	you just wait until i learn how to use paint it will be civil war on Sput
zakalwe 11.01.16	The only remedy https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MduVl70kB48
24gadjet 11.02.16	thanks homies
Divaman 11.02.16	I used to work at a suicide hotline, and the first thing you have to learn to do (with a professional's help, if necessary) is give up power. What I mean is you have to accept yourself that ultimately, if any of these people really decide to kill themselves, there isn't really anything you can do to stop them. You can offer support, and you can care about them, but you have to really accept that in the end, all of the power is with them and none with you. And it would probably help to affirm this to the friends you're talking about -- let them know, look, I care about you, but in the end it's all up to you. It's something you need to do for you, and in the end, it will probably be helpful to them too.