musicalmedicine: 2pac Vs Biggie

musicalmedicine 01.26.14	Overall I prefer Biggie.
Greyvy 01.26.14	great list
Keyblade 01.26.14	Biggie errday of the week and twice on Sundays
adr 01.26.14	Biggie for sure
BigPleb 01.26.14	Biggie but 2pac goes hard too.
ButteryBiscuitBass 01.26.14	Nas
MrCoffee 01.26.14	WESTSIDE
Kalopsia 01.26.14	Will Smith
Athom 01.26.14	I respect Pac as a rapper and a story teller but I don't like a lot of the beats that his rhymes are put to. I think Biggie had better control and style, beats, and at the time actually helped to push the boundaries of hip-hop more than Pac, even if he lacked a lot of that empathetic observer of the streets style of story telling that helped make Pac so good.
Cygnatti 01.26.14	gotta go with bigz
sleepysilverdoor 01.26.14	2pac
frigyourgenre 01.26.14	Both are pretty overrated lyrically tbh
DrHouseSchuldiner 01.26.14	Biggie
ExcentrifugalForz 01.26.14	I think 2pac less respected because his extensive discog has highs and lows while Notorious has a short and sweet output thats basically all good.
Dunwich 01.26.14	2Pac has flawless discography. Posthumous releases don't count.
SkaCali1991 01.26.14	i prefer biggie
musicalmedicine 01.26.14	2pac 3, Biggie 8.
Phlegm 01.26.14	Biggie but 2pac goes hard too.
Guzzo10 01.26.14	Between the two, Biggie is definitely the best. Could never really see the absolute greatness in 2pac.
jefflebowski 01.26.14	biggie is a vastly superior rapper, why is this even a question
Phlegm 01.26.14	tbh kool a.d. is the best rapper in the world and ya'll a bunch of lames
bach 01.26.14	lol
grish 01.27.14	biggie
musicalmedicine 01.27.14	Biggie 12. Some people tend to disagree, saying Pac's better because of being a more influent rapper and having that storytelling approach to his music. I still prefer Biggie, the man's words were honest, you could see through him like glass. His beats were always so groovy and Ready To Die is better than anything Tupac has ever done.
Lombardo 01.27.14	Pretty much agree with what redskyforfamilies said.
musicalmedicine 01.27.14	And Biggie's flow? Oh God, he was amazing.
zakalwe 01.27.14	Chuck D
VermTheInquisitor 01.27.14	Biggie but 2pac goes hard too. 2pac critics here are retarded, disrespectful and lame as hell. lol, kool a.d. Hipsters taste in hip hop is as bad as the taste of the generic bimbos.
sspedding 01.27.14	biggie
musicalmedicine 01.27.14	Verm, are you my brother or something?
VermTheInquisitor 01.27.14	Nope
BigHans 01.27.14	Heres all you need to know about this subject: http://www.sputnikmusic.com/list.php?memberid=429519&listid=91214 and http://www.sputnikmusic.com/list.php?memberid=429519&listid=67465
VermTheInquisitor 01.27.14	Actually those hans lists are solid. And the choice between biggie and 2pac is kinda hard.
GnarlyShillelagh 01.27.14	The short answer is that compared to big Pac is wack as hell The other short answer is that Pac isn't even close to being a top 50 of all time mc
Dunwich 01.27.14	that's poppycock
DikkoZinner 01.27.14	No comparison, Biggie Smalls by a landslide.
Solbrave 01.27.14	Biggie
Negator 01.27.14	What about riff raff? I feel like he deserves to be mentioned.
VermTheInquisitor 01.27.14	Lol, riff raff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaoQggAKak Just see those ladies, the miserable twat can't even speak properly. His lyrics are just dumb comedy for lame hipsters and uncultured thugs who couldn't finish elementary school. Even his best song is a crime against hip hop
Phlegm 01.27.14	his music is illegal, correct
VermTheInquisitor 01.27.14	Sadly no, but it should be
sapient 01.27.14	GZA
L4titudes 01.27.14	As far as activism and getting his voice heard on racism and things of that nature, 2pac. And for basically everything else, Biggie.
LambsBread 01.27.14	2pac is more important to the conscious side of hip hop than any one else. That will always sound corny until you actually learn it for yourself. You gotta know his history to appreciate his impact on the world, then you realize the value and enjoy-ability of his music. BIG is a GOAT, hes the more technical rapper (not really all that important to me) but relative to 2pac hes flashy and insubstantial lyrically. BIG made ONE classic. 2pac made 5 classic albums. The hardest thing in rap is to stay fresh after multiple albums; not to make one classic, there are countless one hit wonder albums in hip hop.
BigHans 01.27.14	RIP BIG PUN
DikkoZinner 01.27.14	2pac was the better ballet dancer.
Greyvy 01.27.14	thats why i fucked your bitch you fat mother fucker
Greyvy 01.27.14	http://content.mydamnchannel.com/datastore/posts/JuggaloRyda114711.png
dathvada321 01.27.14	Biggie
zakalwe 01.27.14	The U.S the greatest artistic cauldron of the last 50yrs remembered for a couple of tits. Chuck D
LambsBread 01.27.14	@spooky is that a picture of you or Greyvy?
Greyvy 01.27.14	take a guess
Muisc4Life26 01.28.14	I say Ready To Die beats out ever 2Pac album. ''Both are very skilled emcees'' Overall i would choose.. ''Biggie''
Negator 01.28.14	lol @ that video verm , i cant believe he was on that show I used to watch that shit. Ah those shows were the shit.
SharkTooth 01.28.14	Biggie, Pac is WAAAY too overrated, and either way Nas wins out, but not by much
MMX 01.28.14	Biggie but Secret Option C Nas
LambsBread 01.28.14	PAC ain't overrated, u just have unrefined taste in hip hop. to 99 per cent of users on this site) and ur overrated if you don't focus on making poppy mainstream 100pwrcentaboutsound /songs. PAC ripped BIG a new asshole. hit em up> any big diss track
Phlegm 01.28.14	pac is boring sorry good night
DikkoZinner 01.28.14	Who Shot Ya >
Greyvy 01.28.14	seperate the weak from the obselete
LambsBread 01.28.14	If anything biggie who raps about guns and bitches in every song is boring. Most y'all just haven't heard enough hip hop to distinguish a shallow/pointless gimmicky rapper from a legend.
Pheromone 01.28.14	Never really liked Pac so Biggie
DikkoZinner 01.28.14	Digital Underground > pac
Gwyn. 01.28.14	Legends such as Immortal Technique
LambsBread 01.29.14	yeah
SharkTooth 01.29.14	"If anything biggie who raps about guns and bitches in every song is boring. Most y'all just haven't heard enough hip hop to distinguish a shallow/pointless gimmicky rapper from a legend" OR MAYBE most of us can recognize a more technically skilled rapper. Biggie was a fantastic lyricist, excellent rhymer, and had a flow that can't be described other than mellifluous. Everything Nas says in Illmatic is about generic 'life n da hood' stuff, but does that make it bad? Of course not. Same with Big. Pac had more diverse topics, but Biggie was the better rapper, period.
SharkTooth 01.29.14	'hit em up> any big diss track' Big never made a full diss track towards Pac, some disses were placed within certain songs, but the only noteworthy diss track was 'Kick in the Door' towards Nas. Also, Hit 'em up is NOTHING compared to Ether, Nas beats anything by Pac any day
LambsBread 01.29.14	You assume that technicality is the only/most important skill in rapping, let alone emceeing. It's not though, any one who sits around with a pen, pad and a rhyming dictionary for long enough can figure that shit out. What 2pac did was educate people with critical information to their lives, while drawing in their attention by entertaining them. Big might have been able to flow and rhyme better, but 2pac is the better emcee.
LambsBread 01.29.14	Thread is not about Nas and again while Nas was a more technical rapper he is fake as shit compared to 2pac. And this is coming from someone who considers Nas among his favorite rappers, hes corny as hell compared to Pac... you should watch the interview where 2pac calls him out
SharkTooth 01.29.14	Yes, I believe technical skill is the single most important quality of a rapper, if he doesn't have the skill, he isn't a good rapper. Pac's ability to educate people is great and all, but if a nigga is not that dope he simply isn't that dope. That's why I stick for Biggie, (and if I could Nas) And Emcee skills I personally consider secondary, mainly because both are dead, so I cannot really judge their live capabilities. Pac probably was the better MC, but that doesn't make him the better rapper.
Gwyn. 01.29.14	Hmmm Fuck 2pac.
GnarlyShillelagh 01.29.14	Surprise surprise Hilary enters and thread goes to shit
Dunpeal 01.29.14	opinions >
GmemberKills 01.29.14	All of 2pac's albums contain filler while, Ready To Die really has none. Imo Biggie has the best album overall but throughout 2 Pac's longer career you can find a lot of stellar songs that can compete with Biggie's best. 2pac's s Speed, Aggression, an story telling are amazing,though Biggie's technicality an flow is what makes me give him a slight edge. Both are real dope.
LambsBread 01.29.14	"but if a nigga is not that dope he simply isn't that dope. " or you are just too uninformed to know what hes talking about and why hes dope, so you prefer insanely simplistic subject matter of Nas and BIG where they say simple shit in needlessly complex ways
LambsBread 01.29.14	surprise surprise Gnarlyshitbag has nothing substantial to add to the debate and gets frustrated when the opposite view point does. "The other short answer is that Pac isn't even close to being a top 50 of all time mc" You got MBDTF among your highest rated hip hop albums...
avonbarksdale221 01.29.14	fuck mob deep fuck biggie fuck bad boy as a staff record label and as a motehrfucking crew and if you wanna be down with bad boy then fuck you too chino xl, fuck you too all you motherfuckers fuck you too
SharkTooth 01.29.14	Look, I'm fin with you believing what you wish, but you're looking like a massive asswipe on this discussion. I already gave my opinion, and objectively speaking Biggie and Nas are better than Pac. You can argue that PAC is the GREATEST rapper of all time but that doesn't make him the best.Please refrain from making dickish comments or I will have to report you.
Uranium 01.29.14	tupac without a doubt much more poetic and lyrical
LambsBread 01.29.14	bottom line is 2pac is the better emcee and Big is the better MC. My problem is no one today seems to know or care about the difference.
LambsBread 01.29.14	There's not a polite-er way to put it, when you are (relatively) uninformed as to what is happening in the world (no need to be offended, most people are just a product of misinformation) there is no reason for you to do anything but "have fun" and listen to music that's fun. 2pac deals with a different reality than most big fans can even fathom, sorry if that's insultin or upsetting to you but it's how I see it and it completely explains why so many people think big is better when the more knowledgable/ wellread types junk PAC is better, cus they know what he's talking about. Also If you don't even make an effort to be informed and study things like politics, (a requirment for apreciating 3pac) I don't see how you get offended when people say you are uninformed and that is the reason why you don't understand why pac is on another level than big.
LambsBread 01.29.14	Maybe you do know politics idk but from The way you dismiss 2pac base on technicality alone it definitely makes it sound like you don't know or care about about politics, or for that matter any music that is made for anything but making yourself have fun. no offense, correct me If I'm wrong)
Gwyn. 01.29.14	a requirment for apreciating 3pac
frigyourgenre 01.29.14	nursery rhymes
DikkoZinner 01.29.14	lol
Phlegm 01.29.14	this should be featured just for the effort lambsbread put into this list
LambsBread 01.30.14	^lol. agreed
Uranium 01.30.14	plain and simple pac was a thug and big was a wannabe
hikingmetalpunk 01.30.14	2pac was wack
L4titudes 01.30.14	pac actually portrayed him self as a thug more to match his movement and big was the real thug.. got it all wrong uranium
L4titudes 01.30.14	2pac was solid but 3pac was quite obviously better
SharkTooth 01.30.14	@LambsBread The thing is that there is a massive fanbase that goes 'fuck all other rappers Pac is the best rapper in the history of ever' which I heavily disagree. I judge rappers by their skill, not by their realness. The thing that made YOU come off as rude was your statement that I don't know anything about rap music when I judge by technicality. It just so happens that I simply don't care for the other features, if the rapper isn't good on the technical aspects, I won't care about what he has to say. This is my mindset, and no amount of hip-hop listening can really change that. 2Pac was the GREATEST rapper of all time, but I stand by the statement that Nas and Biggie were nowhere near as real or experienced, but they had storytelling abilities, which I personally admire.
LambsBread 01.31.14	Basically we are saying the same thing, BIG could rhyme and flow better, Pac was a greater person and emcee. The debate is whats more important. But I think your gettin it all backwards as to which takes more skill. I just honestly don't see how yall can be so impressed by complex rhyming about superficial topics, that you can seriously say something like “big is objectively better”. Sorry if this is presumptive and dickish, but honestly, the only reason I can imagine is that yall big fans really don't care much at all about anything hip hop has stood for, and you just like how it sounds and listen to it mainly cuz its a cool fad. I was the same way once, so that’s my reason for thinking this. 2pac was far more skilled. He could have sat around with a rhyming dictionary and perfected his flow while rhyming about guns and bitches, he tried to strive for something A LOT bigger than that; in other words, BIG never even attempted to be as good as Pac. Big was the greatest ever... for the minor leagues. It took Pac educating himself throughout his ENTIRE life, just so he could think of the concepts in his lyrics, that is A LOT more difficult than thinking of cool-sounding shallow rhymes. Big made better-sounding narcissistic music, he was fine with spitting shallow lyrics and making them sound good to make money, thats an exaggeration obviously, but basically, thats all he was ever about. The thing is, there is more to music than how it sounds. The poetic side of 2pac is something that Big can’t even be compared with, and ‘what a lot of people don’t understand is that poetry can be even more beautiful as the most perfect sounding music.’ (that’s a quote)
SharkTooth 01.31.14	Look, the way I see it, you can rap about ANYTHING as long as you make it sound interesting, and Biggie just happened to do that very effectively. Pac, not as much, he did somewhat, but not to the caliber of Nas and Big. That's why I don't care much for Pac. My hip-hop is style over substance, yours is vice versa, and also, the two rappers HIGHLY respected each other, they were even close friends for a time, until Suge Knight tricked Pac into believing that Biggie hired the goons that nearly killed him the first time. So let's just agree to disagree on this subject.