MonotoneMop
03.17.17 | what do you guys do for money |
elliootsmeuth
03.17.17 | I listen to Elliott Smith |
DinosaurJones
03.17.17 | I'm an office drone. I applied for this job 4-5 times, and got interviewed each time. The last interview, I told them how many times I'd tried for the job, and if I didn't get it that time, I would not be trying again. And then they hired me.
Before that, I worked part time in a community center and part time at a restaurant.
My job has literally nothing to do with my degree, and it's not exciting, but it has good benefits and pays enough for me to live comfortably. I don't want it to be my career, but I'm still young enough for a job to be a means to an end.
I wish you luck, the job search grind is the fucking worst. It took me 3 years to find a good job after I graduated. |
cylinder
03.17.17 | damn that's bullshit dude, hope something comes your way soon |
kascetcadettt
03.17.17 | alex g sucks |
bloc
03.17.17 | Bruh, I feel you. Went through the same struggle. |
Spacesh1p
03.17.17 | "My job has literally nothing to do with my degree, and it's not exciting, but it has good benefits and pays enough for me to live comfortably. I don't want it to be my career, but I'm still young enough for a job to be a means to an end."
Pretty much sums me up too. |
Astral Abortis
03.17.17 | "I think if you're rejecting people for being 'too qualified', you should consider that they may have been desperate enough to apply for your shitty call center role."
See, they use "too qualified" as an excuse because they will believe you're not going to be around for long. Your qualifiers indicate you're desperate enough to take the first job you can get, but will always be looking for something better to come along and will take it as soon as possible. They don't want you to view the position they're offering as expendable, like you're always ready to eject.
It sucks but that's business. |
MonotoneMop
03.17.17 | Oh, I know, and I saw it in the exact same way. In fact, I was honest with them in the interview when they asked how long I'd be around. I told them that I will be actively looking for other roles if I were to take the position, so that neither of us misunderstood the other's intention. In that light, their decision not to hire me is perfectly reasonable, so there's really no hard feelings. It's just nice to complain aggressively on the internet. |
Astral Abortis
03.17.17 | I don't know how employment works outside of Australia, but here we have "casual" positions in the most common workplace environments for workers to, obviously, casually work shifts where they can. Not tied to the business, and the business never relies on them. They also get paid more per hour than part time or full time workers. Casual positions work best for people working multiple jobs or those trying to hold themselves up while they search for clearer waters. Are there any opportunities like that where you are or is that just an abstract concept? |
DinosaurJones
03.17.17 | That... that sounds pretty awesome, actually. |
TumsFestival
03.17.17 | that sounds like a fairytale compared to how shit goes on employment-wise in the US snox |
MonotoneMop
03.17.17 | We have temp and recruiting agencies, which hire for (usually) temporary or temp-to-hire positions, but I think that's a bit more formal than the type of work that you're talking about. There's usually an expectation that you'll fulfill your contract length, so you still have to be fairly sneaky about interviewing with other companies if you're thinking of starting in the middle of a contract or if you're in a temp-to-hire and don't intend to take the position, but that varies between companies and managers. I've been poached by several recruiters lately, which is nice. It's mostly a waiting game at this point, which is fine but dreary. |
DinosaurJones
03.17.17 | "Temp-to-hire" is a ruse, from my experience. In all the jobs I worked through an agency, I was never once hired, despite being told I was a good worker. And I worked several different jobs from clerical to manual labor. And it wasn't just me either, I know plenty of others who have gone through the same process.
Unfortunately, it's way easier and cheaper for companies to work through 3 month (or however long) cycles of temps, rather than bring them on full time, and have to pay their benefits, etc. |
Astral Abortis
03.17.17 | Dang, employment in the US sounds like a nightmare. And I thought it was bad enough here. As least those who can't jobs in their fields here can still rely on casual positions. |
DinosaurJones
03.17.17 | On the other hand, I've been at my current job almost 2 years now, and I still occasionally get calls from recruiters and emails. I should unsubscribe, but it's still a nice feeling to see those and think "Thank God I don't have to worry about that shit anymore" |
Spacesh1p
03.17.17 | "Unfortunately, it's way easier and cheaper for companies to work through 3 month (or however long) cycles of temps, rather than bring them on full time, and have to pay their benefits, etc."
Exactly correct. Pretty rare to go temp-to-hire. Never done it myself but it's a very common practice in the US to temp people instead of actually hiring. |
Sinternet
03.17.17 | Welcome to capitalism |
theacademy
03.17.17 | we should start a compmany and take over the world |
Spacesh1p
03.17.17 | "Welcome to capitalism"
Eh it's the best we can come up with, really. |
UndineParty
03.17.17 | finding work in the US is a nightmare often time temp peeps are mistreated too and are expected to perform at the same level as their regulars right away.
I wanted to drop a 50 inch flat screen tv on my last boss from two stories up |
