ArsMoriendi
01.13.23 | Noise, djent, deathcore, britpop, and synthpop are all here
wonder where trap and vaporwave are, thought those were also promised, maybe I'm misremembering? |
Demon of the Fall
01.13.23 | hasn't britpop been on the site since forever?
yeah, I thought trap made the cut |
ArsMoriendi
01.13.23 | Crap maybe you're right, it just seems new lmao |
Cimnele
01.13.23 | agreed with new wave needing inclusion! (i'm way more into the stuff from this period that ain't new wave, excepting DEVO's early stuff) |
JohnnyoftheWell
01.13.23 | add New Order
add Bowie
add The Cure
add The Sound
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ArsMoriendi
01.13.23 | btw darkwave = synthpop + gothic imo so that's my justification for Depeche |
ArsMoriendi
01.13.23 | "add New Order
add Bowie
add The Cure
add The Sound"
What should their dropped tags be in your opinion |
JohnnyoftheWell
01.13.23 | pop
either experimental or post punk
alternative rock (Gothic, Post Punk and New Wave is the Cure down to a tee)
alternative rock
not that it rly matters for upvoting one genre |
ArsMoriendi
01.13.23 | Oh, no this was to help the mods to know which to delete as well |
JohnnyoftheWell
01.13.23 | ohhh fair gotcha |
GhandhiLion
01.13.23 | singer-songwriter |
ArsMoriendi
01.13.23 | Oh this list is just for new wave Ghandhi, the already implemented tag |
GhandhiLion
01.13.23 | huh |
Sharenge
01.13.23 | don't tell me what to do |
GhandhiLion
01.13.23 | is there a blog post |
ArsMoriendi
01.13.23 | What are some key ones I'm missing? Or obscure ones
Tell me what tags should go away from the artist too so users/mods/etc know what to replace |
SteakByrnes
01.13.23 | Just came to post Tears for Fears but already here with the suggestion I was gonna say lol nice |
Sharenge
01.13.23 | what was the best new wave album of 2022? |
SomeCallMeTim
01.13.23 | I know this won't happen but the tag / genre system needs to be updated. Lot's of albums by bands tagged with a genre that have nothing to do with that genre that show up on genre searches |
GhandhiLion
01.13.23 | ^definitely
ill dump a lot later ars |
ArsMoriendi
01.13.23 | Cool, when you do make sure to tell me what genre tag to drop incase I have them pre-tagged myself |
Mort.
01.13.23 | great idea for a list ars, thanks |
GhandhiLion
01.13.23 | XTC should have pop rock instead of psych or pop. I'll continuously add artists below. |
GhandhiLion
01.13.23 | Wall of Voodoo - Basically all the other tags except for post-punk are wrong
Stan Ridgway - Should be New Wave and Synthpop
Ultravox - POST PUNK, NEW WAVE, SYNTHPOP
Television - for "Adventure" / lol get prog rock out
The Flying Lizards - Get experimental out / also how tf does their s/t only have 10 ratings
The Waitresses - get post-punk out
The Clash - remove ska
ABC - New Wave, Synthpop
P-Model - New Wave, Synthpop / vote post-punk as well probably
The Pretenders - should just be new wave and pop rock
Marianne Faithfull - Broken English is new wave so
Dexys Midnight Runners - Soul new wave pop rock
The Associates
Aztec Camera
Simple Minds - pop rock new wave post-punk
The Stranglers - prog rock out
Soft Cell - synthpop / new wave
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ArsMoriendi
01.13.23 | Psych is kind of important for XTC since Skylarking is their acclaimed album that's basically "The Beatles in the 80s" |
GhandhiLion
01.13.23 | sure but they have more pop rock, post-punk and new wave albums |
GhandhiLion
01.13.23 | Also why does Oingo Boingo have ska? lol mr bungle effect |
ArsMoriendi
01.13.23 | I believe Only a Lad is part of the 2nd wave "new wave" ska scene called 2 Tone, though since it's just 1 album that could be cause for removal over experimental?
I feel like no one ever talks about 2nd wave ska even through it's lightyears better than 3rd wave so I left it lol |
GhandhiLion
01.13.23 | Not many songs on that album are even ska influenced tbh. Mainly "controller", "Nasty Habits" and "Imposter". And all of them would look out of place in a classic ska playlist |
Mort.
01.13.23 | japan? |
gschwen
01.13.23 | Oingo should be: New Wave, Alternative Rock, Synthpop |
GhandhiLion
01.13.23 | def not alt rock. What album did they go synthpop on? |
ArsMoriendi
01.13.23 | Hmm i'll do synthpop but idk about alt rock |
GhandhiLion
01.13.23 | done dumping artists, also japan [2] |
gschwen
01.13.23 | >What album did they go synthpop on?
Boi-ngo for sure |
GhandhiLion
01.13.23 | ah it should probably overtake ska then
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gschwen
01.13.23 | i mean. looking back at their back catalog and reading about them (I'm not familiar with early OB) but Ars mentioned it: they were a 2-tone ska band at that point.
Hard band to pin down. Did a lot of things well. |
GhandhiLion
01.13.23 | Check their debut. It's probably not as ska as you'd think / remembered. |
ArsMoriendi
01.13.23 | Added all of the Ghandhi dump :) |
ArsMoriendi
01.13.23 | Okay… now what about modern new wave?
Does LCD Soundsystem fit? They’re tagged alt rock and probably shouldn’t be hmmm |
mryrtmrnfoxxxy
01.13.23 | post-punk sucks now i only liked blondie |
GhandhiLion
01.13.23 | King |
Mort.
01.13.23 | pretty unknown band (on sput) called 'Ou est le swimming pool' who i think should have the new wave and synthpop tags |
ArsMoriendi
01.13.23 | Added mort, and I decide LCD is so Talking Heads inspire they prob deserve new wave too |
Jasdevi087
01.13.23 | fuck my post-punk slice is gonna die lmao |
Jasdevi087
01.13.23 | new wave + drop post-punk for Buck-Tick |
Jasdevi087
01.13.23 | also new wave + drop post punk for 'Til Tuesday |
Jasdevi087
01.13.23 | fuck we're forgetting the human league boys |
ArsMoriendi
01.13.23 | Why is The Human League tagged indie pop? weird |
sonictheplumber
01.14.23 | you can tell this site was made in 2005 cause they took care of melodic death metal and post-hardcore but nothin else lol
i do give deviant some credit for being adamant that bleep bloop laptop artist #35545459498549548 is actually "breaksgrip" or "post-slowbeat" but we cant even get a genre tag for zeuhl smh |
sonictheplumber
01.14.23 | hell i bet this site has blackgaze too lol buncha wimps |
sonictheplumber
01.14.23 | hell as fucked up as the modern landscape is im surprised theres not a genre tag called "dad rock" or "boomercore" |
JohnnyoftheWell
01.14.23 | cope harder
Buck-Tick and LCD Soundsystem being on this list is kinda sketch, not convinced new wave represents either as a whole |
sonictheplumber
01.14.23 | lcd soundsystem is soft rock |
sonictheplumber
01.14.23 | actually all 90s radio alt rock crap is soft rock. or child rock |
ArsMoriendi
01.14.23 | Calling LCD Soundsystem soft rock is kinda bizarre, it’s not like it’s all cheesy slow ballads or something
Also they didn’t start til 2005, so 90s doesn’t work either |
ArsMoriendi
01.14.23 | As for johnnys comment: I feel like it works better than alt rock since they’re basically Talking Heads/Bowie/80s dance music worship stuff, at least as a tertiary tag |
sonictheplumber
01.15.23 | ive never even heard em lol. but yeah man i know lots of 2005 new wave! my bad |
sonictheplumber
01.15.23 | maybe i was thinking of ben folds or something idk |
ArsMoriendi
01.15.23 | Oh very different
I'd say this is their signature song if you're curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu0_YRgZrEQ |
SteakByrnes
01.18.23 | how about Yellow Magic Orchestra |
ArsMoriendi
01.18.23 | I have them under synthpop, but I don’t think they’re new wave per se |
SteakByrnes
01.18.23 | Probably more accurate, I'm just getting into them and noticed two of their albums had new wave secondaries on RYM so just wanted to get some perspective on that |
SharkTooth
01.21.23 | The The needs a new wave tag, drop experimental
and The Jam, drop punk
Soda Stereo, drop rock
Sumo, drop alt rock
Kajagoogoo, drop pop
Men Without Hats, drop pop
Frankie Goes To Hollywood, drop pop
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foxblood
01.21.23 | thanks for doing this, I'm sure new wave would be in my pie if it was all properly labelled |
ArsMoriendi
01.22.23 | @Shark RYM compels me to drop post punk actually for The Jam since they're described as punk, new wave, and power pop first |
ArsMoriendi
01.22.23 | OMFG I FORGOT BILLY IDOL |
SharkTooth
01.22.23 | INXS should also get its pop tag dropped and replaced with new wave |
ArsMoriendi
01.22.23 | Done! Remember to tag all of these if you can :) |
SlothcoreSam
01.25.23 | Nice list, gonna check em all |
sonictheplumber
01.25.23 | what makes frankie goes to hollywood or inxs NOT pop? a lot of people think pop is a derogatory term but that shits definitely good pop music to me |
ArsMoriendi
01.26.23 | New Wave is a type of pop, so it's more about overlap
Just like synthpop is a type of electronic music...and also pop haha |
sonictheplumber
01.26.23 | ah so itd be like having "metal" and "heavy metal" as genre tags on the same band |
sonictheplumber
01.26.23 | or putting "rock" as a genre tag on any guitar-based music |
ArsMoriendi
01.26.23 | Exactly, like even the rockiest bands here (like the Police/The Clash etc) are still often very pop (Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic and Rock the Casbah being some blatant examples) |