G0atC0re: Death Metal: Sweden vs USA (USA WINS!)

G0atC0re 11.09.18	I'll start. 1 vote for Sweden!
naughtcturnal 11.09.18	As much as I love me some of those american ones (especially morbid angel, autopsy and obituary), my point undoubtedly goes to Sweden.
Keyblade 11.09.18	swedish for sure. I would put in classics like The Ending Quest, Nocturnal Silence, Dark Recollections etc to really show off the strength of the swedish scene
EyesWideShut 11.09.18	Think this has been done before but my vote goes to.. Merica
FearThyEvil 11.09.18	USA by quite a lot for me. Some amazing swedish dm but I prefer the american ones and tbh, I'm not huge on most melodeath
BerryGarlicia 11.09.18	there is a lack of seven churches
Shuyin 11.09.18	Swedennnnnn
BerryGarlicia 11.09.18	meeerica
bbgames 11.09.18	I’d personally put just the NY scene by itself over the Swedish scene.
Sevengill 11.09.18	as a melodeath fan, I gotta go Sweden.
alex23481 11.09.18	Left hand path was incredible
Casavir 11.09.18	So basically, if you like riffs, go for US death metal.
osmark86 11.09.18	My vote goes to tvättäkta svensk döds ♡
G0atC0re 11.09.18	@Casavir No.
elliootsmeuth 11.09.18	Finnish DM is best DM, but if I had to choose between these two, I'd go with American. Couldn't ever jive with the tone or melody of Swedish death metal.
Dewinged 11.09.18	Go Sweds
BlackwaterPork 11.09.18	Sweden easily
ramon. 11.09.18	I feel like Sweden has a much larger selection of classics I love but the few American classics I love I'd wank to with sandpaper so USA for me Finnish DM is best DM [2]
Flugmorph 11.09.18	why not both
Faenrir 11.09.18	Death > * USA for me just for that reason x)
Demon of the Fall 11.09.18	US probably has more of my 4.5s (& one 5) so I'll take them, just. It's tough if you're including melo-black though because that evens it up considerably. Sweden probably has a higher 'success rate' for me though, I've just heard more American stuff. But yeah, Death >
G0atC0re 11.09.18	@SwagLord nah, it actually has decent production.
Sinternet 11.09.18	sweden obvs
Demon of the Fall 11.09.18	it's possible to have black metal with decent production, sure there's melo-death influences in that record as well, but I primarily see that album as BM.
TheClansman95 11.09.18	yeah just think to Immortal, they are black metal but the production of their albums since ATTHOW is great. Same goes for Dimmu Borgir, although they're not exactly your typical black metal band.
G0atC0re 11.09.18	Not TRVE enough!
TheClansman95 11.09.18	honestly they're my favourite black metal bands, even musically-speaking! XD I like even stuff like Mayhem and Darkthrone tho, although the awful production on their albums quite turns me off
Demon of the Fall 11.09.18	yeah some of the more progressive leaning BM bands usually have decent production, it's not an absolute
GUNGFUHAMMERFIST 11.09.18	United States
Deathconscious 11.09.18	Sweden goes hard in the death, but i'd have to take American DM. However, if we were talking America VS Europe in general...thats a tougher one, but i think id have to go with Europe.
Deathconscious 11.09.18	And yeah, Storm of the Light's Bane is definitely black metal.
Demon of the Fall 11.09.18	someone should do a list of European but 'non-Scandinavian' DM records, I think a lot of people (definitely including myself here) probably don't know many others. Carcass, Bolt Thrower, Pestilence... yeah I'm stuck now.
G0atC0re 11.09.18	@Demon of the Fall Bingo. Non-Scandinavian European death metal. Good idea.
Deathconscious 11.09.18	Immortalis, Behemoth, Miasma, Moribund, Chemical Breath, Electrocution, Morgoth, Sinister, Messiah, Asphyx, Decomposed, etc.
Demon of the Fall 11.09.18	I wasn't including Behemoth as aren't they mainly black or blackened death?... but yeah that's an obvious one. Nice list though Adolf, I'll have to make a note, only heard of Asphyx from the rest.
Deathconscious 11.09.18	Behemoth definitely became more death metal leaning for a good chunk of their career, although the black metal influence has always been there. Oh yeah, and also Sororicide. Cant forget them.
garas 11.09.18	Swedish. And yeah,Carcass is really interesting, and I think it's not more swedish, nor american. The best m/
0xME 11.09.18	since i got the time, here's a bunch of good Non-Scandinavian European death metal: Austria: Miasma Switzerland: Moribund, Reactor, Sickening Gore Czech Republic: Krabathor Denmark: Autumn Leaves, Phrenelith, Undergang, Hyperdontia (technically also from Turkey) France: Catacomb, Kronos GBR: Bolt Thrower, Carcass, Cruciamentum, Desecrator Germany: Immortalis, Incubator, Jumpin' Jesus, Morgoth, Torchure Greece: Dead Congregation, Soulskinner Ireland: Asphyxia Italy: Electrocution Netherlands: Acrostichon, Burial, Eternal Solstice, Gorefest, Pestilence, Sinister Poland: Ghost
0xME 11.09.18	I only included what i felt like was straight death, so no Death/Doom like Asphyx etc
TheSpirit 11.09.18	America, easily. Sweden had a lot of amazing bands that burned out after 1-2 albums imo. American bands had a bit more longevity at that same level of high quality.
Demon of the Fall 11.09.18	Sweet list 0xME, you hear very little about the majority of those on here so it's nice to see them all typed out like that.
WretchedCacophony 11.09.18	why the hell is Carcass even on this list. Might as well talk about Cryptopsy... okay they're from Canada! But are they more Swedish or American? Fucking who cares they're not from either.
DarkSideOfLucca 11.09.18	I love Sweden and if I was younger I would have gone with them. But now I'm older and wiser. America all the way, baby. 'MURICA NUMBER ONEEEE
Demon of the Fall 11.09.18	Cryptopsy are more American because geography exists. Done.
bloc 11.09.18	Sweden has def grown on me over the years, but USA for sure. However, I would sub out many of the USA bands on your list with others.
JasonCarne 11.09.18	I did something like this a while back: https://www.sputnikmusic.com/list.php?memberid=736238&listid=153158 My vote goes to USA though.
G0atC0re 11.10.18	@WretchedCacophony Because Carcass rules ok. Deal with it
G0atC0re 11.10.18	USA wins!
WoodeeX 11.10.18	if sput didn't have so many morons, Sweden would've easily taken this.
Hawks 11.10.18	“@SwagLord nah, it actually has decent production” SOTLB is def a black metal album no matter what the production sounds like lmao u can’t be serious.
Hawks 11.10.18	Also Woodee you’re a moron yourself for saying that so.
Source 11.10.18	Florida death metal > all
Casavir 11.10.18	Yeah, SOTLB is black with a lot of trad influence, no less. Putting it here is ridiculous. I'm not even surprised that a lot of people would go US with how comparatively unimpressive much of the Swedish examples come off as comparatively inferior. I mean, come one, a Bloodbath album? An Amon Amarth album? Literally one of the least death metal Edge of Sanity releases?
G0atC0re 11.10.18	@Casavir U mad?
TheClansman95 11.16.18	death metal comments section: BRUTAL.
Thalassic 11.16.18	"I mean, come one, a Bloodbath album? An Amon Amarth album? Literally one of the least death metal Edge of Sanity releases?" AAAAAACTUUUU-AAAAAA-LLLLYYYYYYYYY I happen to think the selected Bloodbath and Amon Amarth albums are really damn great
Thalassic 11.16.18	Both Swedish and American DM need more French polka and country parts
Demon of the Fall 11.16.18	I don’t know about anyone else but I didn’t actually base my ‘decision’ on the list itself, so what if you think a couple of the choices suck?
bloc 11.16.18	Neither did I, were we supposed to?
Rowhaus 11.16.18	USA all the way. Sweden sucks. Maybe if they spent more time writing good riffs and less time hating themselves they'd make decent music. They don't even have the brain capacity to assemble furniture BEFORE they sell it to you.
Assemblage 11.16.18	Going USA here, obviously because of 20/21
Demon of the Fall 11.16.18	@bloc: I mean he’s used Cannibal Corpse, Deicide & Obituary over Incantation, that has to be down to overall popularity/album sales etc. There’s no other explanation for why someone would do such a terrible thing.
bloc 11.16.18	Or because those 3 bands are all better than Incantation mwahahahahaaaaa
Relinquished 11.16.18	sike
Thalassic 11.16.18	"USA all the way. Sweden sucks. Maybe if they spent more time writing good riffs and less time hating themselves they'd make decent music. They don't even have the brain capacity to assemble furniture BEFORE they sell it to you." LMAO There goes the positivity of lately
StrikeOfTheBeast 11.17.18	5 is a tough one to beat. One of the best DM albums ever.
Hawks 11.18.18	Amen Amenarth
Faenrir 11.19.18	Dismenber Morbid Mengel
mauRo13 04.19.19	Sweden lml