furpa: Film Discussion: Oscars 2018 Predictions

furpa 02.22.18	Minor Category Predictions: Animated Feature - Coco Sound (both) - Baby Driver Editing - Baby Driver Costume - Phantom Thread Makeup/Hair - Darkest Hour Production Design - BR 2049 Visual Effects - BR 2049
Clumseee 02.22.18	You forgot Best Picture you silly goose.
Papa Universe 02.22.18	personal hopes (not predictions, mind you): Picture: The Shape of Water (yeah, seriously) or Three Billboards (yeah, still serious about this). But it will probably go to something banal like Phantom Thread or The Post, cause they are quite safe choices. Actor: Gary Oldman, just because he is long overdue for it. Day-Lewis and Washington are both your old typical standard choices. Chalamet and Kaluuya are quite surprising to me, although understandible. I don't think either of them gave a groundbreaking performance, but they were great enough to at least get a nodge. Actress: Frances McDormand and nobody else! (but Margot Robbie was surprisingly good) Sup. actor: Sam Rockwell, indeed. Sup. actress: What world do we live in, where Mary J. fucking Blige managed to give the best performance? Director: Guillermo and Anderson are both at their ace-game here, but Gerwig was a goddamn surprise for me. They might give it to the newcomer, although that might as well ruin her career, essentially (a film equivalent of giving someone a 'Best New Artist' Grammy). Animated: Loving VIncent, honestly. But I know it will go to fucking Coco. (also, fuck them for nominating Boss Baby, that dumbass fucking sorry excuse for a film) Screenplay: Three Billboards by Martin McDonagh, cause I don't understand why is the Big Sick on there. Ad. screenplay: Mudbound or the Disaster Artist. Both great works. I could see them going with Call Me By Your Name, but I personally would prefer those two. Cinematography: Deakins! Foreign: Loveless, which is easily one of the best films of the year. Crushing. But The Square was just as noteworthy, even if a little abstract. (but Le Rédoutable should have at least been nominated) Score: High hopes for either Zimmer for Dunkirk or Greenwood for Phantom Thread. The rest didn't seem as striking to me. Visuals: either Blade Runner or Star Wars.
luci 02.22.18	Won't bother watching the Oscars, will probably just be a lovefest for that Shape of Water garbage.
Papa Universe 02.22.18	you mean!
Kalopsia 02.22.18	makes an oscars list and forgets the biggest award. what's best picture, ya jabroni?
JeetJeet 02.22.18	Dont really care who wins I just hope Deakins gets his. Also hoping Dunkirk gets nothing because that shit was garbage.
ramon. 02.22.18	If Day-Lewis wins, he’d be the first male to win 4 lead Oscars right? Would have no issue with him retiring from acting with another Oscar win tbh. Also, was Get Out that well received? I’m a bit behind on Oscar news. I recall it being a fun film but it seems like it’s become quite the critical darling.
furpa 02.22.18	Oh fuck sorry dudes I totally didn't even realize it dipped my best picture thing! Shit day, I wrote a whole big splooge of shit too and it looks like sputnik deleted it as I posted it? I dunno wtf happened. I just tried editing it to add the listing again, but for some reason it won't let me post more than 10 entries, so here we go. Alas, BEST PICTURE Primary: Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri Secondary: The Shape of Water My choice: Three Billboards. Fight me.
furpa 02.22.18	@Papa Universe, solid choices, ours line up pretty well. For foreign I'd predict The Square more-so though based on the fact it's just the most mainstream of the foreign flicks and has had some solid reception. @JeetJeet, yeah Deakins is well overdue an Oscar. Shit is so insane to me that he doesn't have one, fucking frustrating. @ramon, I believe you're correct. I'dd like to see Day-Lewis win as well. And yeah apparently it was! I dug it, but definitely didn't see it becoming an awards season film at all. Probably because of all the "racial commentary" it hit so big with critics lol.
Divaman 02.23.18	I actually saw two of the films up for best picture this year (both in the last week), which is unusual. Usually I haven't seen any. Hoping "The Shape of Water" wins best picture, Gary Oldman wins best actor, Sally Hawkins wins best actress, and Guillermo del Toro wins best director. Kind if wish I'd seen "Dunkirk" before seeing "Darkest Hour". Would have been a good companion piece. The real best picture for 2018, though = "Logan".
furpa 02.23.18	@Divaman, interesting take. Personally, I'm not a superhero guy in the slightest, and I actually did rather enjoy Logan by comparison. But still it didn't do a whole lot for me. I can understand all the hype though and I guess it's cool that it got a nod for writing.
Maco097 02.23.18	I doubt people will kiss Harvey Weinstein's ass this time like they used to do every year.
KevinKC 02.23.18	Logan was utter garbage. Most overrated movie of 2017. Hands down. Grow up people, please. In order to like Logan, you have to think that being worthless is a quality. This movie is a 2h hours long gimmick. If you make a R-Rating movie and it's start with Fuck, boobs and gratuitous violence, you're making a statement on how much you have absolutely nothing to say. And YES you need to have something to say to make a movie.
Trophycase 02.23.18	Gross. Three Billboards was just awful. Nolan isn't overrated, he's like the god damn Beatles of filmmaking, very accessible but still pushing boundaries and makes pretty damn solid films for blockbusters. Not the greatest or most artistic or profound, but still great. Dunkirk was also phenomenal. The extremely minimal script, lack of major protagonist or character focus was a genius way to sort of highlight the overwhelming experience and chaos of the war. Soundtrack complemented the movie incredibly. The sinking ship scene, for example, was terrifying. The Shape of Water was a well executed love story. The pacing was especially perfect. But it's no best picture, it was missing too many elements to take it to that next level. Three Billboards was hot garbage... Tonally confused and preachy. The jokes were mediocre and the timing was downright bad in places. It tries to make a statement but is ultimately written by someone who is totally ignorant and the dissonance between actual rural people and the way they were written just destroyed the believability of the film for me, like some sort of uncanny valley of writing. Coen Brothers wannabe without the nihilism and with a random scene with a deer (puke).
furpa 02.23.18	Lol damn I go to bed and come back and everybody has for some reason gone super hostile. @Trophycase, I see your point about Chris Nolan, and I do really appreciate his efforts to maintain a level of practicality in shooting and his conviction to shooting on celluloid. That being said I still wouldn't lump him in with the best directors working today. In the case of Dunkirk, I felt the only thing keeping it from another by-the-numbers war film was the execution of it, which I thought the film was far too caught up in to do any justice to the actual story. The performances were fine I suppose? Can't remember anybody being exceptional though. And I thought, in the end, the film didn't really have anything to say. One could argue that was the point, to illustrate the "nihilism of war" or whatever but if we're talking which film is going to take Best Picture my leaning always has to go to the film with a message. Also weren't there like over 300,000 soldiers stranded in the real battle of Dunkirk? That level of sheer scale never once came across to me in the movie... As for Three Billboards, I think the tone could be potentially confusing based on the near-constant juxtaposing of humour, tragedy, and fucked-up-ness(?) but I don't think McDonagh & Co. were at all unsure of the kind of film they were making. It was message heavy, but I think a lot of people have misinterpreted the message of the film following its release. People try to make it a "commentary on the court of public opinion" and "the media" and racism or "the right vs left" and shit but I'd argue it's actually more a piece about how anger is a necessary emotion and a condemnation of violence. And even then I would say that the messages the film conveys take a back seat to the actual plot, which personally kept me on the edge of my seat the entire run-time. Also where did you get the impression that this movie wasn't nihilistic in nature?
Kalopsia 02.23.18	"Logan was utter garbage. Most overrated movie of 2017. Hands down. Grow up people, please. In order to like Logan, you have to think that being worthless is a quality. This movie is a 2h hours long gimmick. If you make a R-Rating movie and it's start with Fuck, boobs and gratuitous violence, you're making a statement on how much you have absolutely nothing to say. And YES you need to have something to say to make a movie." https://78.media.tumblr.com/168c5f6dfc0c77ba5bed06b504ba82f3/tumblr_inline_p13yrmiQf91s75qen_500.png