NWOAHM666
12.30.11 | Stupid people are stupid, it seems. |
BigHans
12.30.11 | Its not a proven fact. There is evidence that supports the theory. Big difference. |
Winsomniac
12.30.11 | They're not stupid, man. They just haven't been taught the same things and lived the same life you have. An attitude like that isn't going to get someone else to change their opinion. |
xandermander
12.30.11 | Christianity's theories of creation are so far-fetched and ridiculous and evolution is so beautifully logical that it's hard not to believe that evolution is correct. How is any evidence going to contradict natural selection? |
DoubtGin
12.30.11 | gonna get one of those t-shirts
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ValeriusTheImmortal
12.30.11 | i'm pretty damn sure evolution is obvious. we've dug up our proto-human ancestors going back over 2 million years |
BigHans
12.30.11 | Evolution isnt about creation |
jefflebowski
12.30.11 | there's other scientific theories for that though |
ohfoxxxycole
12.30.11 | i heart jesus |
Winsomniac
12.30.11 | smh |
ValeriusTheImmortal
12.30.11 | doesn't matter what you call it. the facts are organisms have slight variations in gene code. the ones that survive and reproduce continue the process. eventually the species as a whole has changed from what it once was. |
NWOAHM666
12.30.11 | "i'm pretty damn sure evolution is obvious."
Yeah, it can be proved with day-to-day examples. These guys are asking "so, Mr. scientist, where do we come from EXACTLY" as if they had a better story.
And no, I am not a Christian. |
ohfoxxxycole
12.30.11 | smdh |
xandermander
12.30.11 | The most obnoxious thing is that Christians always fall back on the "We don't know how _____ happened, therefore, there is a god." |
Auschwitz
12.30.11 | "would you like to stop atheism in its tracks?"
hahahaha |
Winsomniac
12.30.11 | xSMDx |
keyboardxmosh
12.30.11 | Ya gotta be kidding me, you only just noticed this? |
NWOAHM666
12.30.11 | @Auschwitz:
Give a Darwin award (no pun intended) to that fascist idiot. |
Trebor.
12.30.11 | I assure you I am not kidding |
anarchistfish
12.30.11 | yeah I was gonna say what BigHans said
the evidence is extremely strong but nothing is 100% certain in science |
Trebor.
12.30.11 | Well nothing can be 100% ever in anything so who gives a fuck
You just go with what is most likely certain
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ValeriusTheImmortal
12.30.11 | well...there is a God
and He/She is 100% certain and absolutely real
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqihaEPq_lY |
NWOAHM666
12.30.11 | "and He/She is 100% certain and absolutely real"
What reminds me: why do Christians always talk of God as "He"? Why isn't God feminine?
FASCISTS
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AngelofDeath
12.30.11 | Sexist, not fascist. |
Trebor.
12.30.11 | If there was a god it wouldn't have a gender or have human emotions
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BigHans
12.30.11 | Trebor, if there is a God and he created everyone and their silly little avalanche of fucked up emotions, he would have to have emotions himself. And yeah he is a dude because women aren't that smart. |
NWOAHM666
12.30.11 | "Sexist, not fascist."
Sexism is a characteristic of most fascist waves. |
Trebor.
12.30.11 | An omnipotent being can't have animal emotions bro |
Tyrael
12.30.11 | 'And yeah he is a dude because women aren't that smart.'
Wow
Just wow |
ValeriusTheImmortal
12.30.11 | lol@hans |
DoubtGin
12.30.11 | where is maniac |
Mchailas
12.30.11 | I dont understand the whole creation thing... where does the idea come from that anything is ever created? Why does complexity imply a designer? I mean we know that the energy in any given closed system is constant, and that energy is neither created nor destroyed. If matter is a condensed form of energy can it not be assumed that nothing is ever created? And it is known that in certain respects the sum of the parts do not add up to the complexity of the system. Like boiling points, you cant simply add the boiling points of a given compound to find the boiling point of a new compound.... And genetically its not possible for there to be A+/- B+/- AB+/- O+/- blood types from two human beings without some form of evolution...? So I suppose I just dont understand the argument... |
Trebor.
12.30.11 | yeah things get progressively more complex over time
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KjSwantko
12.30.11 | No one denies evolution; it does happen. However, claiming 1 cell micro-organisms morphed into what we are today is just silly, IMO. Evolution and the Big Bang isn't proven; it's a theory, just like what Conservatives have. The difference is one is "cool" to support, one is not.
With that said, I quite frankly don't give a shit where we came from. |
NWOAHM666
12.30.11 | "So I suppose I just dont understand the argument..."
Neither do I. |
Trebor.
12.30.11 | However, claiming 1 cell micro-organisms morphed into what we are today is just silly,
Aren't the eggs we come from single cell organisms? |
KjSwantko
12.30.11 | yeah, they systematically grow in a specific way, not evolve in the sense we're talking about. |
anarchistfish
12.30.11 | "If there was a god it wouldn't have a gender"
^^
'he' is just a default term, there's no sexism involved. and I don't think you understand what fascism is |
NWOAHM666
12.30.11 | "I don't think you understand what fascism is"
I do. Y'know, I live in a place which used to be under such a thing. |
YouGotLucky
12.30.11 | delete this shit |
KjSwantko
12.30.11 | yea rly |
Pachelbel
12.30.11 | The most obnoxious thing is that Christians always fall back on the "We don't know how _____ happened, therefore, there is a god."
This. And it's called God of the gaps btw |
omnipanzer
12.30.11 | Hey Guys, come on, unlike the "Theory" of evolution and all the so called "facts" used by the scientific "community" (which we all know is made up because of a global conspiracy) creationists have a long supported, unedited, completely true and unbiased document that really spells it all out fur us. The Bible... anyone? |
Shuyin
12.30.11 | 6,8,9 and 10 are tities |
NWOAHM666
12.30.11 | OK, bad attempt. |
KjSwantko
12.30.11 | the thing that's ironic about the Bible is that some people say it's comprised of all "fairytales", when in actuality a great deal of what is in it we know to be 100% true and accurate historically. "But GOD, IT MUST BE FAKE, BECAUSE WE CAN'T PROVE IT THROUGH OUR HUMANLY SCIENCE WAYS." Furthermore, these are the individuals who will tell you they believe in ghosts and spirits, but say God can't exist. I sit in my classes and just laugh. |
ohfoxxxycole
12.30.11 | atheists that try to convert religious people to be atheist
what the fuck is that |
NWOAHM666
12.30.11 | @KjSwantko:
1. In fact a lot of the Bible has been rewritten and mistranslated SO MANY TIMES it is no longer reliable.
2. Your last part is kinda stupid. If you ask me about ghosts and spirits, or Karma, or whatever else I will denounce it as BS as much as religion. I don't know about anyone else, but I won't buy that either. |
omnipanzer
12.30.11 | "when in actuality a great deal of what is in it we know to be 100% true and accurate historically. "
False |
BigHans
12.30.11 | the earth was created by the riffs from Diamond Heads Lightning to the nations |
Trebor.
12.30.11 | what part of the bible is true? |
Winsomniac
12.30.11 | So...anyone else an OKC Thunder fan?
Durant may be the nicest guy ever to be ridiculously fucking baller at...ballin'. |
Shuyin
12.30.11 | i personaly believe in Jesus Christ and that he was a kind man, but i hate christianty. if that religion follows the will of Jesus, than they wouldnt be filling their pockets while children are starving in Africa, imo. |
Trebor.
12.30.11 | mother teresa was a cunt |
NWOAHM666
12.30.11 | "what part of the bible is true?"
None known.
"the earth was created by the riffs from Diamond Heads Lightning to the nations"
No! It was created by the riffs from "Curse of the Pharaohs" by Mercyful Fate! |
omnipanzer
12.30.11 | Should change list name to "religious discussion in here" |
NWOAHM666
12.30.11 | "i personaly believe in Jesus Christ and that he was a kind man, but i hate christianty. if that religion follows the will of Jesus, than they wouldnt be filling their pockets while children are starving in Africa, imo."
^FLAWLESS VICTORY^ |
anarchistfish
12.30.11 | ""The most obnoxious thing is that Christians always fall back on the "We don't know how _____ happened, therefore, there is a god."
This. And it's called God of the gaps btw""
Christian theologians don't believe in that anymore and I've never heard a christian use that argument |
DeathByDaydream
12.30.11 | "Its not a proven fact. There is evidence that supports the theory. Big difference."
You're right, but, that statement isn't really worth making. Despite what Creationists will tell you, we have directly observed evolution. So we're as close to proving its validity as we will ever be, not to mention this is pretty much as close as you can get to proving anything else (how can you prove something any further than directly observing it?). |
omnipanzer
12.30.11 | Evolution is proven... human evolution is not. |
jefflebowski
12.30.11 | i wonder where this conversation is going |
MO
12.30.11 | "And yeah he is a dude because women aren't that smart."
lolol oh hans |
Shuyin
12.30.11 | 'i wonder where this conversation is going '
nowhere, no one will change his/her mind, and few are actually making a point. |
keyboardxmosh
12.30.11 | ppl got offended by that?
you have got to be kitten me |
Sanders
12.30.11 | As interesting as our origin is, people spend too much time arguing about it to enjoy life right now. Why waste now with time-consuming arguments of then. Just stop it, go out and get fucked. |
BigHans
12.30.11 | no. WE ARE GOING TO SOLVE THE QUESTION OF THE ORIGIN OF LIFE ON SPUTNIK |
Trebor.
12.30.11 | cuz it's interesting
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keyboardxmosh
12.30.11 | yeah, arguing the validity of religion over science, vice-versa, is retarded, honestly better off getting fucked in the head |
Maniac!
12.30.11 | "Evolution isnt about creation"
just remember who taught you that ;) |
BigHans
12.30.11 | When I think about how awesome the riffs are on Diamond HEads Lightning to the Nations, I simply have to conclude we are created by a higher power. I mean, listen to those RIFFS |
KjSwantko
12.30.11 | most people take the stance that Christianity and Science are like gasoline and water, when there's not much reason to have that stance. There's no passage or verse in the Bible where it says the Earth is only 4,000 years old, for example. It's more about people on both sides bickering and wanting to be "right" rather than opening their minds and discovering maybe the two actually go hand in hand. |
Sanders
12.30.11 | Pretty sure Mr Garrison's got it solved:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKMyHake02w&feature=related |
BigHans
12.30.11 | There's no passage or verse in the Bible where it says the Earth is only 4,000 years old,
^ If you follow the lineage which is laid out in Genesis it states the earth is roughly 6000 years old. |
Maniac!
12.30.11 | "It's more about people on both sides bickering and wanting to be "right" rather than opening their minds and discovering maybe the two actually go hand in hand."
Too bad that even if they can coexist, Christianity isn't verifiably true anyway |
Shuyin
12.30.11 | 'no. WE ARE GOING TO SOLVE THE QUESTION OF THE ORIGIN OF LIFE ON SPUTNIK'
that just made my day :D |
Hyperion1001
12.30.11 | satan |
Trebor.
12.30.11 | christianity is gay and science is cool
Also satan |
BigHans
12.30.11 | guess what faggots, I went to church on Christmas Eve.
And I LIKED it. |
Megadeth
12.30.11 | leave ur kids with the priests |
Twiddlebop
12.30.11 | Meh, you'll find ideologically inconsistent, reality-denying people in every political movement. |
Maniac!
12.30.11 | "guess what faggots, I went to church on Christmas Eve.
And I LIKED it."
...good for you? |
omnipanzer
12.30.11 | "Christianity and Science are like gasoline and water"
... |
BigHans
12.30.11 | Maniac is a card carrying member of Westboro Baptist. |
KjSwantko
12.30.11 | lol |
Auschwitz
12.30.11 | "If you follow the lineage which is laid out in Genesis it states the earth is roughly 6000 years old."
which we know is complete bullshit. |
omnipanzer
12.30.11 | "Maniac is a card carrying member of Westboro Baptist."
He's literally the opposite. I'm not following the joke sir. |
Shuyin
12.30.11 | lmao |
keyboardxmosh
12.30.11 | "which we know is complete bullshit."
oh, i was kind of buying it bro, thanks for point this out |
BigHans
12.30.11 | I'm not following the joke sir.
^ Exaggeration is the joke. |
christianman
12.30.11 | fuck this goddamn list and fuck the shit it has started |
christianman
12.30.11 | but yeah i dont believe in miracles i dont believe in sin
but i do believe in rock n roll and thats the only thing that matters |
BigHans
12.30.11 | sup Sonic |
keyboardxmosh
12.30.11 | i do believe in rock n roll and thats the only thing that matters |
BigHans
12.30.11 | God Gave Rock n Roll to you
GAVE ROCK N ROLL TO YOU
GAVE ROCK N ROLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL TO EVERYONE
- Paul Stanley |
Trebor.
12.30.11 | My cats are atheists
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NWOAHM666
12.30.11 | "i do believe in rock n roll and thats the only thing that matters"
Me too. |
BigHans
12.30.11 | Why Should the Devil Have All The Good Music?
- Geoff Moore and the Distance |
keyboardxmosh
12.30.11 | as cities burn is really rocking christian rock, they rock |
BigHans
12.30.11 | WE SING FOR YOU!
- August Burns Red |
Shuyin
12.30.11 | ^ LOL |
Shuyin
12.30.11 | I NEED MOAR POP CORN! |
omnipanzer
12.30.11 | Got a devils hair cut, in my mind. |
NWOAHM666
12.30.11 | I NEED MORE DEICIDE! |
NWOAHM666
12.30.11 | Now seriously, I wonder Glen Benton's opinion on this. |
Auschwitz
12.30.11 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcgmWrhSg8c |
BigHans
12.30.11 | Deicide fucking suck and Glen Benton can FOAD |
Shuyin
12.30.11 | SATAN! |
keyboardxmosh
12.30.11 | st and legion are pretty damn hail, so whatever
implying that death metal bands have any staying power after a couple of albums is just aidsy pitter |
NWOAHM666
12.30.11 | That was hilarious.
"HE WILL HAVE NO MERCY ON YOU?" |
newjunkaesthetic93
12.30.11 | As if we needed any more proof that christians are close minded morons. |
omnipanzer
12.30.11 | Hans likes Glen Beck. |
BigHans
12.30.11 | Omni DVRs The Bill O Reilly Show |
Auschwitz
12.30.11 | glen benton is such a dumbass but his band comes out with a decent album now and then so i dont care. |
omnipanzer
12.30.11 | I'm pulling the "I don't have cable" card. |
Counterfeit
12.30.11 | hi. |
BigHans
12.30.11 | Omni, that was my 22,222nd comment. That means its true. |
AsoTamaki
12.30.11 | Nice. I'm happy to be on the team that doesn't have NWOAHM666. You are all losers. |
omnipanzer
12.30.11 | Fuck you have too much time on your hands... (says the pot) ;^P |
Twiddlebop
12.30.11 | "As if we needed any more proof that christians are close minded morons."
Yeah, because it's totally open-minded to judge people based solely on which "group" they belong to. |
anarchistfish
12.30.11 | I've met some pretty close minded atheists |
disposablehero94
12.30.11 | We are an ape with a symbiotic relationship to a mushroom, and that has given us self reflection, language, religion and all the spectrum of effects that flow from these things. They have brought us to this point, and as we make our relationship to them conscious, we may be able to take control of our future evolutionary path. |
Auschwitz
12.30.11 | "Yeah, because it's totally open-minded to judge people based solely on which "group" they belong to."
well its kind of hard not to say christians are close minded when their beliefs instruct them not to think about anything or question anything. |
toxin.
12.30.11 | "However, claiming 1 cell micro-organisms morphed into what we are today is just silly"
why
I'm pretty sure that happened over the course of like a couple billion years |
anarchistfish
12.30.11 | "their beliefs instruct them not to think about anything or question anything."
why do you think that? |
NWOAHM666
12.30.11 | @disposablehero94:
That is actually well thought. |
Twiddlebop
12.30.11 | "well its kind of hard not to say christians are close minded when their beliefs instruct them not to think about anything or question anything."
That's just what i mean, though. Not all Christians are taught the same things nor believe the same things, just like how not all Muslims are terrorists, not all Jews are greedy, etc. I know Christians who believe in evolution and despise modern Christianity, and others who are quite rigid in their religious and social views. I try to judge on an individual level, because I like to give people a chance, regardless of hat i may think of their beliefs. |
Twiddlebop
12.30.11 | *what, not "hat". Ugh. |
DoubtGin
12.30.11 | i didn't know you guys think that i am a terrorist
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disposablehero94
12.30.11 | @NWOAHM666
Can't take the credit for an L.D. 50 reference
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-SkZE_ja0U |
NWOAHM666
12.30.11 | Even so. I just said it was well reasoned. |
ncguitar
12.30.11 | I don't know. I don't trust much in the Catholic church, but I think it is very pretentious and airy
from scientists to say that "there is no god", when they only are experts of the tangible universe yet
not much about metaphysics. An optimal conclusion will be achieved when blending naturally all
faculties of knowledge. |