BigHans: Metallica V Megadeth - Hans Breaks It Down

BigHans 12.12.11	This will end the argument for all time
KILL 12.12.11	just no sorry bro
BigHans 12.12.11	Dude my analysis is complete
KILL 12.12.11	how did metallica win riffs come on dave is the fucking riff master, and he wrote some of metallicas greatest riffs too
Auschwitz 12.12.11	cool list, but Megadeth all fuckin day.
BigHans 12.12.11	Dave is a riff master but I think Metallica has more great ones.
dammets 12.12.11	I think Metallica should have won lyrics
BigHans 12.12.11	I think Metallica should have won lyrics ^ They might have if Frantic had never happened.
Cheesewireism 12.12.11	MEGADETH!!!!!!!!!!!!! NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Trebor. 12.12.11	Metallica
AliW1993 12.12.11	I was going to say Magadeth should win riffs, but then I thought of Master Of Puppets I prefer Mustain's vocals to Hetfield's, though. His voice wasn't bad in the 80's and it was great in the 90's but now it's just horrific.
DominionMM1 12.12.11	damn it hans, I was actually gonna do this list based on your maiden-priest scoring list. I had Megadeth taking it, though.
BigHans 12.12.11	sorry Dominion. Do another classic battle. Slayer vs Anthrax, for example
DominionMM1 12.12.11	I'd have given the live performance points to Megadeth. Their setlists have always been better.
BigHans 12.12.11	A Megadeth concert is like a gread playoff game, a Metallica concert is the Super Bowl
Pharoh 12.12.11	" I think Metallica should have won lyrics" Yeah, who can argue with you with such memorable Metallica lines such as.. "My lifestyle determines my deathstyle!" "I'm madly in anger with you"
DominionMM1 12.12.11	I'm just not a fan of Hetfield's vocals live. He applies his bob rock vocals to the fleming rasmussen songs.
BigHans 12.12.11	He applies his bob rock vocals to the fleming rasmussen songs. ^ Thats true. That started in the mid 90s. But dude, listen to Bing and Purge. m/
DominionMM1 12.12.11	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Table&oldid=464914420 lol
TheNotrap 12.12.11	Metallica (classic era) is arguably better but Megadeth was always my fav speed metal band. Following your rating system: ICONIC SONGS Metallica ALBUM CONSISTENCY Megadeth (Metallica's first albums were more consistent though) LIVE PERFORMANCES Metallica INFLUENCE Metallica DRUMMING: Megadeth BASS Metallica GUITAR SOLOS Megadeth RIFFS Megadeth VOCALS Metallica... LYRICS Tie MASCOT Not fair Metallica wins but Megadeth still remains my fav speed act. m/
BigHans 12.12.11	I think just cements what Ive always said. Megadeth are better musicians. Metallica are the better songwriters, thus they win because of influence, iconic songs, etc.
TheNotrap 12.12.11	Metallica was in the right place at the right time. Just like Sabbath, Priest and Maiden.
JamieTwort 12.12.11	I agree on most of these except maybe riffs but I dunno they both have great riffs.
Pharoh 12.12.11	http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Table&oldid=464914420 lolol
AliW1993 12.12.11	"Table or Tables may refer to: Table (furniture) Table (information) Deliberative procedures: Table (parliamentary), deferral or commencement of consideration Table (verb), contrasting usages Tables (board game), a class of board games The Table, a volcanic tuya in British Columbia, Canada A type of diamond cut A tablet of early Roman law; see Twelve Tables Table (database) Calligra Tables, a spreadsheet application James Hetfield, who claims himself to be "The Table"." Brilliant.
KILL 12.12.11	funi
BigHans 12.12.11	thus why Megadeth wins lyrics
Hordewolf 12.12.11	Hell, I want to see this with some rock bands as Clutch and Down.
Jethro42 12.12.11	Can't vote once again :/
BigHans 12.12.11	Jethro use this format for a classic Prog showdown
BigHans 12.12.11	like Genesis vs Rush or Yes or King Crimson or something. Replace Riffs with "overally random wankery"
Jethro42 12.12.11	Yeah I'm rightly on my way for it, Hans =] P/
ARM7HEMASSES 12.12.11	Lulu should not count since it is technically not a "Metallica" album. It is a collaboration.
Jethro42 12.12.11	''overally random wankery'' hahaha well that is a prog option. not a necessity ya know=]
ARM7HEMASSES 12.12.11	I think "Musical Masturbation" would suffice better, haha.
DoubtGin 12.12.11	hmmm Hans you are wrong twice in a row now..
Jethro42 12.12.11	in his arrogant opinion =]
Jethro42 12.12.11	''Musical masturbation'' more like eargasmic music.
Hordewolf 12.12.11	Though the system is actually quite a good idea.
BigHans 12.12.11	Lulu should not count since it is technically not a "Metallica" album. It is a collaboration. ^ It doesnt matter, they put their name on one of the 5 worst albums in the history of music.
ARM7HEMASSES 12.12.11	"Eargasmic music" Exactly what the musical masturbation leads up to.
BigHans 12.12.11	And Wolfhorde, I dont know who I would compare Clutch to.
Jethro42 12.12.11	have you even heard some Camel
BigHans 12.12.11	someone do A7X vs Atreyu
Jethro42 12.12.11	''I dont know who I would compare Clutch to'' Down, maybe..?
FrankRedHot 12.12.11	"Dave is a riff master but I think Metallica has more great ones." Sorry Hans, but that doesn't make sense.
Hordewolf 12.12.11	"And Wolfhorde, I dont know who I would compare Clutch to." Just call me Wolf. I was thinking about Down but then I noticed they're not nearly as consistent as Clutch.
MO 12.12.11	Yea this one is pretty damn even to me. Unlike you Hans I don't have the emotional connection to the Black album so in my eyes only having 4 good albums (where alot of the better material on the first 2 was written by Mustaine) it's hard for Metallica to win. I'll agree Metallica is the bigger band in terms of bringing metal to the world.
BigHans 12.12.11	Sorry Hans, but that doesn't make sense. ^ Was saying Dave is a great riff writer but Metallica had more great riffs.
AsoTamaki 12.12.11	Yeah, Megadeth definitely wins guitar solos based on technical complexity, but that's it. Kirk's stuff always fits the songs perfectly and are generally far more memorable.
Pentagon 12.12.11	Megadeth.
Acanthus 12.12.11	FUN SUGGESTIONS FOR MORE Amorphis vs Opeth Tool vs Porcupine Tree Korn vs Skrillex
BigHans 12.12.11	surpriesed there arent more butthurt Megadeth fanboys arguing vehemently in here. BTW where is Maniac?
Hordewolf 12.12.11	"Korn vs Skrillex" let them fight over who invented dubstep. Can't really argue for any of those since I'm biased. Metallica was already background music when I was so young I didn't even care for music.
Acanthus 12.12.11	Nah was meaning since they collaborated, both were really popular with the first few albums, and both have hate/love in varying amounts.
KjSwantko 12.12.11	agree 100% with the assessment Hans, gj
FrankRedHot 12.12.11	"^ Was saying Dave is a great riff writer but Metallica had more great riffs." You called Dave the riff master, yet you said Metallica has more great riffs. Again Hans, that doesn't make sense.
BigHans 12.12.11	said he was A riff master
FrankRedHot 12.12.11	DON'T YOU CORRECT ME!
Trebor. 12.12.11	There can only be one riff master
KjSwantko 12.12.11	Dave is a riff master, but behind vintage Hetfield.
BigHans 12.12.11	well if theres only one its neither Jaymz nor Dave
FrankRedHot 12.12.11	Dave is THE riff master. End of story. And Hans, you shut your mouth when you're talking to me.
DominionMM1 12.12.11	someone do A7X vs Atreyu -45 to -60
DeadBeat 12.12.11	ICONIC SONGS Megadeth (I don't care if Metallica appears more times on mtv) ALBUM CONSISTENCY Megadeth LIVE PERFORMANCES Metallica INFLUENCE Metallica DRUMMING: Megadeth BASS Metallica GUITAR SOLOS Megadeth RIFFS Megadeth VOCALS Metallica LYRICS Megadeth
Jethro42 12.12.11	''shut your mouth when you're talking to me'' That's not nice.
JamieTwort 12.12.11	"well if theres only one its neither Jaymz nor Dave" Tony Iommi!
KjSwantko 12.12.11	from an objective stand point it makes no sense to say Megadeth has more iconic songs.
DominionMM1 12.12.11	"Kirk's stuff always fits the songs perfectly and are generally far more memorable." um no
Gmork89 12.12.11	I approve of this list, good job Hans.
BigHans 12.12.11	Megadeth songs I would say are "iconic" In My Darkest Hour (maybe) Hangar 18 Holy Wars Peace Sells Wake up Dead Symphony of Destruction Trust (maybe) A tout Le Monde Metallica's Seek and Destroy Whiplash For Whom the Bell Tolls Fade to Black Creeping Death Battery Master of Puppets Sanitarium One Blackened Harvester of Sorrow Enter Sandman Unforgiven Wherever I May Roam Sad But True
BigHans 12.12.11	And that doesnt even mention the songs Metallica is famous for covering. Die Die My Darling So What Am I Evil Breadfan etc.
BigHans 12.12.11	And Hans, you shut your mouth when you're talking to me. ^ EVERYTHING YOU SAY TO ME LEADS ME ONE STEP CLOSER TO THE EDGE AND IM ABOUT TO BREAK!
BigHans 12.12.11	m/
CakeWithCream 12.12.11	Mustaine did write a lot of the riffs on Kill 'em All which is an influential record so you could say Mustaine had an influence over Metallica and Megadeth therefore Megadeth would have the greater influence and better riffs. Tornado of Souls > Any Metallica song. Also every song on Rust In Peace is iconic. Lyrics are not close in my opinion, Megadeth has better lyrics, and some are actually good while others are, well, laughable. While Metallica's are like GIMME FUE GIMME FAI GIMME DABAJABAZA Your opinion is invalid Hans, Megadeth wins
BigHans 12.12.11	Tornado of Souls > Any Metallica song. ^ it has a great guitar solo but lol Also every song on Rust In Peace is iconic. ^ Considering I wouldnt call 5 magics or Poision was the Cure or any song not named Hangar 18 or Holy Wars "iconic" on that album. "Iconinc" means its a well known classic in the metal community. Youre right about the lyrics.
TheNotrap 12.12.11	In My Darkest Hour is probably Mustaine's best lyrical effort.
BigHans 12.12.11	its the best song on that album for sure.
AsoTamaki 12.12.11	Metallica songs with good lyrics: The Four Horsemen Ride the Lightning Fade to Black Creeping Death Master of Puppets Sanitarium Disposable Heroes Blackened One Dyers Eve The Unforgiven Wherever I May Roam My Friend of Misery Until It Sleeps Hero of the Day Bleeding Me The Outlaw Torn The Unforgiven II Low Man's Lyric Fixxxer Sweet Amber Purify The Unforgiven III
TheNotrap 12.12.11	In my hour of need Ha you're not there And though I reached out for you Wouldn't lend a hand Through the darkest hour Grace did not shine on me It feels so cold, very cold No one cares for me Did you ever think I get lonely Did you ever think that I needed love Did you ever think to stop thinking You're the only one that I'm thinking of You'll never know how hard I tried To find my space and satisfy you too Things will be better when I'm dead and gone Don't try to understand, knowing you I'm probably wrong But oh how I lived my life for you Still you'd turn away Now as I die for you My flesh still crawls as I breathe your name All these years I thought I was wrong Now I know it was you Raise your head raise your face your eyes Tell me who you think you are, who ? I walk, I walk alone Into the promised land There's a better place for me But it's far, far away Everlasting life for me In a perfect world But I gotta die first Please God send me on my way Time has a way of taking time Loneliness is not only felt by fools Alone I call to ease the pain Yearning to be held by you, alone, so alone, I'm lost Consumed by the pain The pain, the pain, the pain Won't you hold me again You just laughed, ha, ha, bitch My whole life is work built on the past But the time has come when all things shall pass This good thing passed away In my darkest hour
Irving 12.12.11	Love Hans, so so much.
DominionMM1 12.12.11	maybe I should do a Neurosis vs Isis list...wait...that one wouldn't even be close.
CakeWithCream 12.13.11	lol when i said every song on Rust in Peace is iconic i was actually kidding, i know they're not iconic, but goddamn i love that whole album.
KILL 12.13.11	rip is better than any metallica album yea agreed sweet
Pharoh 12.13.11	Mechanix > The Four Horseman
KILL 12.13.11	depends on my mood but yea usually mechanix
CakeWithCream 12.13.11	i don't like the Four Horsemen because of the bridge part before the solo, which is basically Sweet Home Alabama
Ovrot 12.13.11	metallica m/
Crysis 12.13.11	these lists are m/ keep 'em coming
Pharoh 12.13.11	mechanix m/
CakeWithCream 12.13.11	wu-tang vs public enemy next
CakeWithCream 12.13.11	unless you don't listen to them haha, then maybe something to do with death metal, Cannibal Corpse, Obituary, Deicide, Death
CrackeTheSkull 12.13.11	I would say do Death vs some other Death Metal band but that would just be lopsided. Suffocation vs Immolation would be cool matchup.
BigHans 12.13.11	Im not qualified to do Death metal. KILL can do one.
Nagrarok 12.13.11	Better way for Metallica to restore their reputation would be re-releasing their first four with properly audible bass. I love it when you do these kind of lists Hans, keep them coming; Slayer vs. Anthrax would follow perfectly...
BigHans 12.13.11	I might do some non-metal ones Nag. Anyone feel free to do these type of lists with the format. Although this current format requires metal pretty much.
Cipieron 12.13.11	Dio vs. ...........someone but obviously Dio would win
JamieTwort 12.13.11	I might do a classic rock one of these at some point.
Jethro42 12.13.11	I might do a hip hop one =]
TheNotrap 12.13.11	Phil Collins vs Peter Gabriel...
CrackeTheSkull 12.13.11	The riff at the 1 Minute mark of Wake Up Dead might damn well be my all time favorite, but Metallica just flat out has a larger catalog of riffs that stood out to me. The scoreboard reads something like 20 to 12.
Jethro42 12.13.11	''Phil Collins vs Peter Gabriel'' Please don't start a war. =P
JamieTwort 12.13.11	Hahaha
Zorak 12.13.11	hangar 18 solo(s) are fucking nuts. Deserved merits there.
Cipieron 12.13.11	gabriel > collins... no contest
EyesWideShut 12.13.11	Metallica. yea fuckin Blackened.. i think James would kick Dave's ass in a fight. dude seems like the pussy version of carrot top.
Cipieron 12.13.11	carrot top is ripped so obviously he'd win
EyesWideShut 12.13.11	thats why i said THE PUSSY VERSION!
Cipieron 12.13.11	well then
Zorak 12.13.11	yeah james could easily kick dave's ass.
Maniac! 12.13.11	list is wrong
Gmork89 12.13.11	Jamez would waste Dave.
BigHans 12.13.11	Dave actually decked Jaymz once, so I dont know. Dave has serious anger problems.
AsoTamaki 12.13.11	Dave's got multiple black belts. James doesn't even really have a tough guy reputation or anything. I'd have to go with Dave.
DominionMM1 12.13.11	wu-tang vs public enemy next nwa vs. public enemy
Auschwitz 12.13.11	@cracketheskull that is a tasty riff for sure.
BigHans 12.13.11	if I do Hip Hop the first one will be Biggie vs Pac
Maniac! 12.13.11	"Dave's got multiple black belts." that's cool and all, but that doesn't always mean anything
Maniac! 12.13.11	"Biggie vs Pac" Biggie, no contest
DominionMM1 12.13.11	In Dave's book, he says james and him were talking shit to some guy for hitting a girl, and when the guy confronted them, james pussed out and ran off.
jefflebowski 12.13.11	Biggie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pac
BigHans 12.13.11	Biggie/Pac would be extremely close
Auschwitz 12.13.11	@dominion i wouldnt be surprised if that was fabricated. dave can be a little bitch about things.
KILL 12.13.11	dave would kick james's ass i mean who cares really but damn dave already knocked his ass out when he kicked daves dog
CakeWithCream 12.14.11	he gets kicked out of Alcoholica for alcohol problems and then fucks Kirk's girlfriend for taking his job.
LepreCon 12.14.11	/m/
Curse. 12.17.11	For people saying Megadeth should win because Dave wrote many early Metallica riffs, he was in Metallica at the time therefore it counts for Metalica you fucking morons
Tyrael 12.17.11	'RIFFS (10 Points) Winner: Metallica' Lol
CakeWithCream 12.18.11	curseworship is a dumbass
Inveigh 12.22.11	if you're gonne do Clutch it should vs Kyuss or something, maybe CoC also awesome list, I agree with all of these. riffs is damn close though. Megadeth definitely has better riffs from like 1990 onward.
KjSwantko 12.22.11	Metallica riffs are better overall tho
KILL 12.22.11	fuck no
Exodus287 12.22.11	Great list but I reckon Megadeth are a superior band. Anthrax and Exodus are both better bands at thrash metal in my opinion.
MetalMassacreAttack 12.27.11	I do agree with curseworship's point, but even though Metallica are more influential, their astonishing inconsistency makes them inferior to Megadeth. Another great list, now please give us an Anthrax vs Slayer bout.
CakeWithCream 12.27.11	Slayer would probably destroy Anthrax in all of the categories except bass and guitar solos
rockandmetaljunkie 12.27.11	Cool list, i agree with the final result. I still believe that AJFA is one of the most complex metal albums when it comes to lyrics.
MetalMassacreAttack 12.29.11	Cake, Anthrax's vocals are FAR better and, altough Dave Lombardo is a drum monster, Charlie Benante isn't that much behind. But okay, Slayer would probably win.
BigHans 12.29.11	Ive listened to alot of Anthrax and my fair share of Slayer but not enough Slayer to do that list.
Megadeth 12.29.11	yea slayer are better
BigHans 12.29.11	sup KILL
CakeWithCream 12.29.11	yeah forgot about the vocals haha, so maybe they wouldn't destroy but i think slayer would still be a clear winner
BigHans 12.29.11	no way Belladonna is better than Araya
BigHans 12.29.11	Slayer would win riffs and drumming probably for sure.
DominionMM1 12.29.11	^iconic songs, too
BigHans 12.29.11	I dont know Dominion I think Anthrax's songs are more well known, thus more "iconic" in nature.
DominionMM1 12.29.11	disagree. I don't think Anthrax has any tracks that are as well known as angel of death, raining blood, or south of heaven.
ncguitar 12.29.11	"Korn vs Skrillex" I lol'd
BigHans 12.29.11	Youre probably right Dominion
Pharoh 12.30.11
omnipanzer 03.12.13	lol, forgot about this.
mandan 01.10.14	Mustaine's riffs are beast. Dunno if anyone besides Hans could've done this list.
mandan 02.02.14	I agree with most of this, but the riffs are disputable. Probably a tie in that regard. Not too sure with regards to albums, since 'Deth has released some weak material (Thirteen and Super Collider both sucked hard).
NordicMindset 02.02.14	This was made before Super Collider. So that means Metallica would have won that.
mandan 02.02.14	Yeah, Mustaine has pretty much become the laughingstock of the metal community.
NordicMindset 02.02.14	You know how you tell Megadeth is falling into obscurity? When they're the supporting act for Iron Maiden.
mandan 02.02.14	Lol.
mandan 05.19.14	Both bands have strong fanbases (with strong common threads), so it's not really like fans of each band antagonize each other so much. Prob more people dislike 'Deth than 'Tallica tho.