Knave
10.24.11 | Go! |
Trebor17
10.24.11 | gay |
Knave
10.24.11 | some overly passionate asshole will blow this thread up |
Trebor17
10.24.11 | Bighans |
Knave
10.24.11 | i was thinking pit, but hans works too |
Satellite
10.24.11 | *prepares for dumbest thread ever* |
RosaParks
10.24.11 | Why does this even need a thread on Sputnik?
Oh yeah, it doesn't. |
Knave
10.24.11 | for the lolz |
someguest
10.24.11 | fuck politics there's a zooey deschanel christmas album coming out tomorrow |
JWT155
10.24.11 | They're fucking idiots. |
CelestialDust
10.24.11 | zooey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
taxidermist
10.24.11 | fuck politics there's a zooey deschanel christmas album coming out tomorrow [2] |
Pharoh
10.24.11 | just a bunch of new age hippies |
RosaParks
10.24.11 | and Pharoh comes in with the stupid comment. SHOCKING |
Acanthus
10.24.11 | Interesting idea, fun way of demonstrating, far to overreaching, and now it's being used by any group with an agenda. Had promise though. |
CelestialDust
10.24.11 | Jeff Magnum did an acoustic set there, that was a good day |
Knave
10.24.11 | did he really? i had no idea jeff mangum was still alive... |
Trebor17
10.24.11 | zooey makes me feel alive |
Ovrot
10.24.11 | fuck politics there's a zooey deschanel christmas album coming out tomorrow [3] |
CelestialDust
10.24.11 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvLm01ruV00 |
eternium
10.24.11 | I'll assume that I'm the only person that has been to one of these. |
someguest
10.24.11 | eternium's just so in touch with his values and aspirations |
eternium
10.24.11 | Elitism isn't going to solve anything. |
Ignimbrite
10.24.11 | lol |
CelestialDust
10.24.11 | I was down there a couple weeks ago... live pretty close |
eternium
10.24.11 | I'd be there all the time if I wasn't so far away and could afford the gas. |
someguest
10.24.11 | huh uh I'm poor gonna hang out with poor losers cause that's what I was born to be huh uh |
eternium
10.24.11 | Implying that everyone out there is poor despite most of them either having jobs or being students.
Then again, you can have a job and still be poor in America. |
someguest
10.24.11 | ever heard of skill level, experience, and work ethic?
no? |
eternium
10.24.11 | So that explains why average incomes are falling while very top incomes are rising? The vast majority of Americans are just lazy assholes? |
someguest
10.24.11 | shit I barely graduated college with a 2.0 and i always show up late and do the bare ass minimum yet I can't seem to keep a job what the fuck I'm a college grad I paid my dues |
DrFraud
10.24.11 | Occupy Wall Street could be a good cause and help things but these people seem to think it's Wall Street's fault that the government has allowed them to take advantage of tax breaks and loopholes. If the group was called "Occupy Stupidity in the Government" they would be a lot closer to their goals |
Trebor17
10.24.11 | "Occupy Stupidity in the Government"
Occupy doesn't make sense in this sentence though |
eternium
10.24.11 | The stupidity in government is because the government is controlled by the rich. Half of the members of Congress are in the 1%. You can't get elected unless you have some kind of backing by the rich and can get millions in donations. Lobbyists, etc.
The rich got bailed out while everyone else is still suffering. If you knew anything about our income inequality rates you would know why these people are out there. |
someguest
10.24.11 | inequality has and will always exist. the goal is to be on the good end of the situation and not being a bitch about the time you're at the other end.
but our generation is a bunch of whiners so it's expected. I'm glad they're out there wasting their time - it leaves more jobs open for me. |
DrFraud
10.24.11 | I know very little about politics. But if the 99% can't get the 1% to do what they want then clearly the system of "Democracy" doesn't work |
Trebor17
10.24.11 | Whiners change the world dude
If France didn't have whiners then they would still have a monarchy
Our country was founded on whiners who didn't want to pay taxes to king george |
someguest
10.24.11 | no our country was founded on people in rooms actually getting shit done
not people lined in the streets holding signs and asking for more government intervention |
eternium
10.24.11 | http://www.businessinsider.com/what-wall-street-protesters-are-so-angry-about-2011-10?op=1
Unless you're an idiot (someguest) you'll notice how we're all being fucked by the top more and more. |
toxin.
10.24.11 | God these threads always turn to shit. |
someguest
10.24.11 | those who know success will find it |
eternium
10.24.11 | "not people lined in the streets holding signs and asking for more government intervention"
Yeah, it's not like MLK did anything like that. |
CelestialDust
10.24.11 | eh the country was founded on slavery and genocide |
toxin.
10.24.11 | "I know very little about politics. But if the 99% can't get the 1% to do what they want then clearly the system of "Democracy" doesn't work"
There's a reason politicians have been scared of majority rule. Sometimes the majority is wrong.
See: California and Prop 8.
Obviously 99% is a supersupersupersupermajority but it doesn't change the fact that if 99% could get what they wanted from the 1% our country would be fucked because they'd demand full equality |
someguest
10.24.11 | look where whining got him
shot |
cb123
10.24.11 | you'd be better off organizing employee strikes across the nation rather than a few people sitting outside wall street |
eternium
10.24.11 | They don't demand full equality, they demand not having all of our wealth sucked up by a small group of people.
The 400 richest families in America control more wealth than the bottom 60%. |
Auschwitz
10.24.11 | "They're fucking idiots."
yeah, i mean, who wants to bring justice and accountability to corporations and our government? thats just stupid. |
someguest
10.24.11 | you'd be better off figuring out how to get ahead on your own instead of whining to jesus and company in washington |
CelestialDust
10.24.11 | someguest you're very good at baiting people |
Ignimbrite
10.24.11 | I'm gonna go with someguest on this one. The USA has a long, sad history of times when the government intervened too much in stuff it should not have had such a major role in. |
eternium
10.24.11 | "you'd be better off organizing employee strikes across the nation rather than a few people sitting outside wall street"
In case you haven't noticed, the movement has spread to every major city in America and even internationally into Spain, Italy, Hong Kong, etc. Employee strikes would be possible if unions had any power anymore. |
eternium
10.24.11 | "The USA has a long, sad history of times when the government intervened too much in stuff it should not have had such a major role in. "
Like what? |
psykonaut
10.24.11 | "no our country was founded on people in rooms actually getting shit done
not people lined in the streets holding signs and asking for more government intervention"
please tell me you're joking nobody actually thinks this way right |
someguest
10.24.11 | "someguest you're very good at baiting people"
see: trolling |
psykonaut
10.24.11 | fuck i took this thread seriously for a second, kill me now |
toxin.
10.24.11 | what do you mean union strikes are good?
Grocery workers are 0.1% of the population. They'd be holding up 99.9% of the population. That reminds me...
OCCUPY GROCERY STORES! 0.1% OF THE POPULATION ARE HOLDING UP 100% OF THE GROCERY INDUSTRY.
WE ARE THE 99.9% |
Ignimbrite
10.24.11 | I'd get utterly shat on if I mentioned the New Deal, but yeah... That. |
Auschwitz
10.24.11 | i support em. they want to end the federal reserve and so do i. our forefathers warned against central banks. |
toxin.
10.24.11 | obviously that works for any industry with a union strike |
toxin.
10.24.11 | "our forefathers warned against central banks." fuck that's always terrible logic |
someguest
10.24.11 | i mean eternium and I have gone back and forth in these topics like ten times now
we share pretty much the same point of view but where's the fun in agreeing |
eternium
10.24.11 | "our forefathers warned against central banks."
See: Alexander Hamilton
You fucking dumbass. |
DrFraud
10.24.11 | Anyone with a functioning brain should know some shit needs to be done with the economy. I can't blame Wall Street for making the maximum profits they're allowed. I don't have solutions, but if the right people, and enough people, get involved with this cause I have more hope in them than the government. |
CelestialDust
10.24.11 | what a beautiful face i found in this place that is circling all round the sun |
someguest
10.24.11 | dr. fraud let's start a ponzi scheme
give me 10000 to start |
cb123
10.24.11 | doesnt help that you guys have spent countless trillions at war in the last 10 years |
someguest
10.24.11 | war is exciting
and rewarding |
Auschwitz
10.24.11 | See: Thomas Jefferson
You fucking dumbass. |
cb123
10.24.11 | true, u cant put a price on entertainment :p |
someguest
10.24.11 | nothing gets the juices flowing like seeing another person's red juices flowing |
Trebor17
10.24.11 | http://youtu.be/bXXTxgO-c3A
A great post rock song that relates to this |
eternium
10.24.11 | And the majority of Americans are against those wars, want to spend less on the military, etc.
The wars are being waged by the rich, fought by the rest, and look who benefits (Halliburton) and who loses (soldiers, families). |
eternium
10.24.11 | lol @ Austchwitz using one founding father to back him up but ignoring the founding fathers that would disagree.
The founding fathers barely agreed on anything. You are ignorant to believe otherwise. That neglects the fact that we had our first central bank in 1791. |
DrFraud
10.24.11 | The U.S. ends all their stupid wars, and legalizes pot. Hey better economy and a better world! |
cb123
10.24.11 | i dunno bout soldiers losing, only the ones who dont come back....the rest are paid very well for their service...at least in australia anyways |
someguest
10.24.11 | how about the hundred plus years we didn't have a central bank
must've forgot that part |
taxidermist
10.24.11 | So fucking jealous of those people. If Jeff was at a protest near me I'd be there in a second. |
eternium
10.24.11 | Yeah in Australia. Here we have soldiers returning only to become homeless. |
FromDaHood
10.24.11 | Occupy Wall Street is bad but its retarded step-son Occupy Detroit is even worse |
Auschwitz
10.24.11 | "lol @ Austchwitz using one founding father to back him up"
"See: Alexander Hamilton" |
someguest
10.24.11 | "Occupy Wall Street is bad but its retarded step-son Occupy Detroit is even worse"
'I don'st has a jobs becuz i'm blak, not becase I a lizy azz mafuck' |
eternium
10.24.11 | "how about the hundred plus years we didn't have a central bank"
More like sixty and that time period was just before the Civil War and afterwards when we had a depression every twenty years. |
cb123
10.24.11 | fair enough, wasnt sure that was the case over there |
eternium
10.24.11 | Auschwitz, I was using Hamilton to prove that the founding fathers were not in unison. Some wanted a central bank, others did not. |
Ignimbrite
10.25.11 | "The U.S. ends all their stupid wars, and legalizes pot. Hey better economy and a better world!"
Ron Paul 2012 |
Ignimbrite
10.25.11 | "i dunno bout soldiers losing, only the ones who dont come back....the rest are paid very well for their service"
wow |
someguest
10.25.11 | the main reason we have problems here is because there's too many damn people
but nobody has the balls to say it
time for a china-style limit of 1 child per family |
Auschwitz
10.25.11 | nah, i tried mentioning that before and someone claimed that we actually could keep on living like this and that population isnt a problem. LOL. |
someguest
10.25.11 | lol |
Comatorium.
10.25.11 | I think in the end it boils down to what the fuck do they think is going to happen? Corporations will always be greedy. |
Ignimbrite
10.25.11 | Overpopulation is an issue that, unfortunately, has no fix at the moment that does not involve morally reprehensible shit. |
someguest
10.25.11 | we tell people to pay taxes
just tell them to only have one child
simple |
toxin.
10.25.11 | @someguest I remember my AP gov teacher saying w/o immigration the US population would actually slowly decline in population. I'm not saying to close the borders though obviously |
someguest
10.25.11 | well your ap gov teacher must not live near any latinos or african americans because they reproduce like rabbits around here |
toxin.
10.25.11 | I live in Southern California. His last name is Resendez.
It could be that a lot of the growth is undocumented since they're illegal. But I think in places like the North and Midwest the population's declining |
someguest
10.25.11 | the only state that lost population in the 2010 census was michigan |
Acanthus
10.25.11 | I really don't see our population declining any time soon, don't be fooled by those Netflix and WoW account cancellations! |
toxin.
10.25.11 | Oh then maybe growth is decelerating? or maybe it just wasn't true. whatever |