Spec: A Cure For Cancer

Spec 05.16.11	Pretty sad they couldn't at least look into this. http://www.medicorcancer.com/dca-therapy.html
someguest 05.16.11	Money is the only reason we exist.
FatChickIrl 05.16.11	nice digs
iFghtffyrdmns 05.16.11	Cure For Cancer is an awesome fucking song
Spec 05.16.11	The Cancer industry will be in a lot of trouble if these findings reach a more widespread audience.
Hyperion1001 05.16.11	I saw this the other day, from what i gathered this drug is already out there in the form of existing generic drugs, it just was never tested.
stranger 05.16.11	university of alberta lol
Spec 05.16.11	When does money have more value than a human life? I don't understand it.
Hyperion1001 05.16.11	This drug is already widely available didn't any of you read the actual article? It's been used to treat metabolic disorders for a long time.
Drunk 05.16.11	always man
Satellite 05.16.11	human life as a whole isn't really very valuable imo
Spec 05.16.11	Use without medical supervision is both inappropriate and dangerous, because at the wrong doses and in the wrong patient DCA can be toxic.
Satellite 05.16.11	http://www.sputnikmusic.com/list.php?memberid=313022&listid=71422 this is the real news anyway
MCGF 05.16.11	there will never be one cure for all kinds of cancer.
Spec 05.16.11	It's a start.
someguest 05.16.11	I have to agree with Satellite. I took a course in economic history which tried to put the collective as more important than the individual through time, but I just don't believe it. There's been an incredible amount of people who have pushed boundaries and changed the way we live, but most of us just exist for the sake of existing, without accomplishing anything.
Spec 05.16.11	No individual deserves to die such a slow and painful death though.
AfterTheBreakdown 05.16.11	Number 1 is my profile pic. Can't get enough of that band.
Satellite 05.16.11	well obviously a cure for cancer would be great. the truth is that we live in a finite place and our population (which is already way too high) is increasing at an alarming rate and we don't have the resources to sustain it. the human race is the worst thing to ever happen to this planet. people need to stop procreating so goddamn much and have way more abortions.
Spec 05.16.11	Please let's not go there..
Satellite 05.16.11	you know i'm right and that's all that matters
AfterTheBreakdown 05.16.11	Settle!
bungy 05.16.11	I found the cure a while ago
someguest 05.16.11	Your whole life is building up to your death. It's the only deadline in which you have to adhere. Medications for pain are in abundance, and our economic structure prohibits many advancements which would benefit the common good. Part of the problem is there's so many people now that we're pretty much replaceable with anybody else.
Spec 05.16.11	Maybe the next generation will be less pathetic than ours. You'll never know if you kill all of them.
Spec 05.16.11	Part of the problem is there's so many people now that we're pretty much replaceable with anybody else. Part of the problem is that way of thinking. Every single person is different. We just all follow the exact same structure, school, more school and work till you die, doing some shitty job like being a cashier.
someguest 05.16.11	Think of all the service and manufacturing jobs in America. Any legal adult can do these jobs. Do you think companies give a fuck if they lose an employee?
Spec 05.16.11	*cough
MCGF 05.16.11	"the truth is that we live in a finite place and our population (which is already way too high) is increasing at an alarming rate and we don't have the resources to sustain it. the human race is the worst thing to ever happen to this planet. people need to stop procreating so goddamn much and have way more abortions." nah thats bullshit. we could produce enough food for a LOT more people, if we just distributed it better. there is plenty of room on earth for many more people; the entire worlds population could comfortably stand inside the borders of LA. The problem is depleting resources, but that too can be overcome with technological progress. from an environmental standpoint we are horrible. but personally, I care much more about humanity than I care about polar bears and shit.
AfterTheBreakdown 05.16.11	Generations are only getting worse.
Enotron 05.16.11	@detriment: profits are how advancements in the world and society are made. of course the medical system is based off profit, it couldn't exist without profit. whether its private or public, our money still ends up in the hands of those who treat our medical problems.
Masochist 05.16.11	"When does money have more value than a human life?" It always has...ask Judas.
Satellite 05.16.11	i never said anything about killing anyone (except fetuses). just have fewer kids because there's enough people already.
Spec 05.16.11	With jobs like that, no. Needz moar funding for the arts.
bungy 05.16.11	polar bears > most people
Spec 05.16.11	Anything but squirrels. Fucking squirrels.
Satellite 05.16.11	"from an environmental standpoint we are horrible." that's mostly what i'm talking about dude. human beings as a species fuck everything up, and there's no technological advancement that's going to change that. ergo, the fewer we have the better.
someguest 05.16.11	"Every single person is different." Genetically, sure. As far as personality, maybe. But economically, there's always a replacement waiting in line. There's minimal motivation to develop something that won't make money for a commodity which (as Satellite stated) looks like it'll be in an infinite supply.
AfterTheBreakdown 05.16.11	Whitechapel lyrics may come in handy in this list.
Spec 05.16.11	I still think a cure for cancer would be cool.
Spec 05.16.11	You're all starting to sound like an ex girlfriend of mine. Absolutely hopeless!
Sanders 05.16.11	I will read that link when I'm not half asleep, but as a med student I consistently despair at pharmaceutical companies' desire to value money over reducing morbidity and mortality. On the flipside, if they didn't, they wouldn't profit and therefore wouldn't be in business, and we wouldn't have any drugs anyway. It's a no-win situation.
Spec 05.16.11	Pretty much hit the nail on the head.
Enotron 05.16.11	http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,391787,00.html there's always alternative ways of incentivizing people to cure things like cancer, such as building up a reward for it.
whywontyoudie 05.16.11	"Wouldn't it be some ironic shit if they found out through this case that the cure for cancer was Michael Jackson sucking your dick somehow?" -Dave Chappelle
Spec 05.16.11	They will probably compare it to terrorism.
someguest 05.16.11	if human life isn't a commodity then why am I being sold everyday and I'm sick of talking to people about shit like this and nobody giving a damn. it's like they're all in their own world, so concerned with their motherfucking phones and who they're going to text next that they don't even have time to use their minds.
Spec 05.16.11	You a prostitue or something?
Satellite 05.16.11	my ex-girlfriend was/is EXACTLY like that, guest. she's a smart girl, too, which makes it worse.
Spec 05.16.11	What do we live for; if it is not to make life less difficult to each other? I still think that about sums it up. We're all stuck here, why not try and enjoy it.
someguest 05.16.11	No, I'm an American. Surrounded by dumbfucks.
Sanders 05.16.11	^ I kinda have to give a damn, it's what I want to do with my life. Plus, my dad's just been diagnosed with skin cancer, so there's always that vested interest too.
Spec 05.16.11	I'm sorry someguest, I'm still in Sputnik mode.
AfterTheBreakdown 05.16.11	"We are the disease that spreads amoungst this filthy race I am certain of humanity's demise Man will inspire a new era of corruption" Whitechapel
Spec 05.16.11	Oh cool. Another nihilistic deathcore band. Do they sing about how much God sucks? I'll bet they sing about how much God sucks.
Satellite 05.16.11	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHiX0FZcjkA
whywontyoudie 05.16.11	AfterTheBreakdown, not cool... should have quoted BBF3 instead.
Enotron 05.16.11	"What do we live for; if it is not to make life less difficult to each other?" that would be nice but its far from reality and is frankly quite ignorant. while its subjective to every individual, we live to make ourselves content. whether that entails making as much money as possible(usually this), it can also entail altruism and assisting the needy and what have you. but it all goes back to making yourself feel good.
AfterTheBreakdown 05.16.11	Whitechapel isn't that good but the lyrics are decent
Drunk 05.16.11	What do we live for; if it is not to make life less difficult to each other? [2]
Satellite 05.16.11	you're half right
Satellite 05.16.11	@ atb
Spec 05.16.11	Money has never made me feel good. I don't know how someone can base the foundation of their existence on something as stupid as money. Hearing people bitch about coupons all day really put things into perspective for me.
Satellite 05.16.11	i don't really know if money in and of itself has ever made anyone feel good. all i know is that i like having it more than i like not having it.
someguest 05.16.11	I wonder which half? Enotron bringing up Maslow. I think most people meet Maslow's requirements in America, and we're just sitting around wasting time.
Enotron 05.16.11	ahh so you would have no problem being without money? i could go into detail, but we would be way way way worse off without money. it's essential to the human race.
Sanders 05.16.11	Money just allows us to quantify our success and/or misery.
Spec 05.16.11	They have done numerous studies that found a collective group of poor people are much happier than a collective group of rich people.
Sanders 05.16.11	Well, I know that's not all it does, but as a student, it boils down to that for now.
Eulogize 05.16.11	"Whitechapel lyrics may come in handy in this list." I love you.
Satellite 05.16.11	"Money just allows us to quantify our success and/or misery." it also helps me pay my rent but idk
Spec 05.16.11	Money is neither my god nor my devil. It is a form of energy that tends to make us more of who we already are, whether it's greedy or loving.
Spec 05.16.11	Obviously I don't have any official standpoint on any of this. There too much from each perspective to even try.
someguest 05.16.11	It isn't about money. You just need your basic needs met. If your needs are met you'll be happy, but the amount of needs (which in reality are "wants") the average individual must achieve has gone up significantly just within the last decade. A lot of them are things that further individual knowledge and success but further isolate us from each other. I still think face-to-face human interaction is the most important thing one can engage in, and we're quickly losing it.
Sanders 05.16.11	Yeah ditto, but it all pretty much boils down to "A cure for cancer would be nice, but it's unlikely to happen soon. Plus money exists."
AfterTheBreakdown 05.16.11	@Eulogize hahahahahaha. Fit in pretty well
whywontyoudie 05.16.11	"I still think face-to-face human interaction is the most important thing one can engage in, and we're quickly losing it." i said this to a girl one time and she thought i was an idiot. sad fucking world we live in.
Spec 05.16.11	I still think face-to-face human interaction is the most important thing one can engage in, and we're quickly losing it. This so hard, I can't stand texting and can barely tolerate phone calls. I used to just sit with my friends and listen to music, now it's boring to them (unless they're stoned).
bungy 05.16.11	I hate phone calls
pmmets07 05.16.11	Cure for AIDS
someguest 05.16.11	I don't want to text you, I don't want to give you a call, I don't want to leave you a status, or send you a chat, or a message; I want to see your face and hear your voice.
climactic 05.16.11	i like turtles
Enotron 05.16.11	its simple. without money, trade would be inefficient. @detriment: its not about how things should be. everybody should be really attractive. everyone should have lots of money. how do you design a reasonable medical system that doesn't involve profit?
ZilbelPing 05.16.11	"Generations are only getting worse." Indeed. I'm in high school, and the people I'm surrounded by on a daily basis are some of the most idiotic, spoiled, ignorant people I've ever met. This statement is very true and it's also very sad.
Spec 05.16.11	Sad how that works eh.
someguest 05.16.11	lol I'm posting my last post on facebook, see how long it takes for a bish to flip
Spec 05.16.11	EDIT: Let us know the moment she replies.
ZilbelPing 05.16.11	@Detriment Same here. I only have a few people I really get along with. I really despise most of the people at my school.
Eulogize 05.16.11	@AfterTheBreakdown, I'd say it works pretty well for a topic like this. And you made me want to listen to them.
AfterTheBreakdown 05.16.11	@Eulogize. Figured it fit well. And It made me want to listen to posession.
whywontyoudie 05.16.11	@Zilbel, same here man. I have to work for everything that I get and the people I go to school with are just on the biggest high horse about themselves. Shit sucks. Oh well though, I'm happier than they will ever be with all their idiotic drama over absolutely nothing.
ZilbelPing 05.16.11	@whywontyoudie Woah, dude I'm the same! My dad's been handicapped for about 5 years and I buy my own things. Which is cool since I actually take care of them. But yeah, it pisses me off how spoiled some kids at my school are. I saw this girl throw her phone at the wall because it was sending random calls saying "I don't care. My parents will just buy me a new one." I just stared. I don't even have a phone, but I don't really want one cause, as stated before, meeting face to face is a million times better.
someguest 05.16.11	hey spec it took her 18 seconds btw
Spec 05.16.11	She's probably subscribed to your status updates.
Enotron 05.16.11	"the kids around here are all faggoty ass whiggers." shut up you're awful
someguest 05.16.11	yeah probably on her phone she hasn't admitted to it
Spec 05.16.11	Sounds familiar. What'd she say?
someguest 05.16.11	she just liked it thought about initiating some conversation but that would just be fucking hypocritical hahaha
Spec 05.16.11	Haha, she's just fucking with you man!
someguest 05.16.11	what else is new
someguest 05.16.11	he thought you were referring to the website
Enotron 05.16.11	oh yeah that but using phrases like "faggoty ass wiggers" mad close minded
someguest 05.16.11	you know any wiggers that are cool? are we missing something?
Enotron 05.16.11	i'm not ignorant, i know the type that you're referring to. i'm not saying that i enjoy their presence either(which would be a stupid thing to state generally, because everyone's a fucking individual). i'm saying that term is fucking stupid.
Enotron 05.16.11	no i just think you're a fucking moron. i'm not emotionally hurt by it, i'm saying you resemble a little kid when you use it(you're unrealistic "profit is evil!" views would suggest so as well but that's besides the point).
Enotron 05.16.11	"im most disgusted by the lengths the medical industry (the people who are supposed to be taking care of the population) will go to make any amount of profit." when i asked how it could work without profit, you said you had no answer. the fact that you think a medical system could exist without profit leaves you with no right to use the word naive. again though, back on point, "faggoty ass wiggers" seriously
Enotron 05.16.11	im sorry man, but its really a waste of time to have to explain both the distinction between thinking something is stupid and being hurt by it, as well as the distinction between reality and ideality. night.
ShinXetsu 05.16.11	"so because i dont have a solution for it, it must be ok, huh? thats a foolish way of thinking." The point isn't that it's ok; it's just how humans work. Think about it, how did the concept of currency even begin? Because people liked trading useless shit they place value in.
savagecabbage 05.16.11	I would honestly kill any of you for $572
Enotron 05.16.11	@detriment: no i really do. however i consider sleeping a tad more preferential to arguing, especially with somebody as clueless as you. "currency is the worst creation of mankind." you see this is why you come off as a fucking moron. currency is a tool, greed and profit have existed long before it and they always will and that is good thing because that is how fucking incentive works. However if there was no currency, trade would be inefficient because goods would not be divisible and we would suffer from the "lack of coincidence of wants". i need to go, but basically; humans would be suffering a lot worse without money, most countries would be third world countries, there would be no concept of a good economy, people would be starving, nothing good in the world would ever be innovated. profit is what incentivizes people to do good things for society. it doesn't matter if you're not ok with it or it has bad side-effects, its how humans work and you could never change it and neither could a government or anything.
porch 05.16.11	but guys MONEY IS EVIL the forums are just waiting to be used for this kind of shit
ffs 05.16.11	"u mad bro?????" -cancer
Sanders 05.16.11	^ ahhh, the well known cancer quote, along with "come at me".
bungy 05.16.11	lol savagecabbage
porch 05.16.11	i’m gonna agree (angrily) with everything enotron says and offer no counterpoint then i’ll go blow my whistle and eliminate some corruption and type a large paragraph. in this way, i am being non-apathetic. when will u stupid fucks even understand???
AnotherBrick 05.16.11
AnotherBrick 05.16.11	how can i be a part of the no shit trade
bungy 05.16.11	i am fucking tired of the shit trade
AnotherBrick 05.16.11	me too man, lets go blow our corruption whistles some more.
porch 05.16.11	what kind of activism are you involved in probably haha get the fuck away from me you whistle blowing retard activism
WhiteWallStargazers 05.16.11	cool story bro
ffs 05.16.11	how old are you
porch 05.17.11	yeah it'd make perfect sense actually i mean when i see you in these kind of threads i can predict the outcome from the start. you say a lot of vague, naive shit, someone calls you out on it, then it winds down and you resort to ad hominems and meaningless bullshit when you get exposed, never actually responding to the opposing argument. there's a bunch of other lists where you've done the same thing so there's a depressing inevitability about it
Deviant. 05.17.11	"its ok though, you go ahead and accept everything that is wrong with our society. ill continue to try and get the word out there and blow the whistle on corruption. " He's like a retarded Michael Moore
porch 05.17.11	someone confiscate his whistle before he injures himself
ConsiderPhlebas 05.17.11	I blow the tuba on corruption
Deviant. 05.17.11	"did you know that humans existed and lived without a currency at one point??" You do realize that currency doesn't just mean money right? And that for the most part there's always been a trade/barter system of some description, which therefore nulls this: "However if there was no currency, trade would be inefficient because goods would not be divisible and we would suffer from the "lack of coincidence of wants" and this: "too many people live on this earth and unless billions were wiped out, we wouldnt survive without a currency."
Spec 05.17.11	It's true, they were just trading cool looking rocks instead.
Deviant. 05.17.11	I'll give you two mammoth skins if I can your take your cavewife down to the watering hole
Spec 05.17.11	Bat guano actually used to be used as a form of currency as well.
someguest 05.17.11	dude i'll trade my soiled loincloth for day old lasanga
Sanders 05.17.11	How the fuck does a list with the title "A Cure For Cancer" turn into this kind of thin-veiled soapbox viewpoint preaching? Cancer is bad, should be stopped but realistically can't yet. /thread.
foreverendeared 05.17.11	"It's true, they were just trading cool looking rocks instead. " Actually I think teeth were the first form of currency that we know of.
Spec 05.18.11	It very possibly could be stopped.
ShadowRemains 05.18.11	so detriment is even more of a nut-job than i thought