Antipunk: Guide To Metalcore

Obfuscation24 10.09.10	Poison The Well is fucking amazing
NeroCorleone80 10.09.10	Good to see 1 at 1
Athom 10.09.10	i approve of this list. nice to see Pass The Flask get some much deserved love.
McBabe 10.09.10	8 ftw!!!!
Antipunk 10.09.10	glad someone knows what 8 is!
WeepingBanana 10.09.10	needs some Every Time I Die for those of you who like to have fun while listening to metalcore
cvlts 10.09.10	was going into this list expecting to lol but is now mildly impressed and a tad disappointed.
Emim 10.09.10	"was going into this list expecting to lol but is now mildly impressed and a tad disappointed." Same.
Antipunk 10.09.10	I'm sorry I let u down a tad
iPim 10.09.10	I knew 1 and 2 would be on here. I am downloading ''the armed's'' work right now. Props for 3,4,5,6 I find the bled a little more post-hardcore-ish then metalcore, still a very good album.
iPim 10.09.10	good list btw, but needs more Every Time I Die IMO
fr33convict 10.09.10	The best song of Jane Doe has always been the title track IMO. Like the list though.
Skybreaker 10.09.10	7 rules so much, just got it a couple days ago
iPim 10.09.10	''The best song of Jane Doe has always been the title track IMO. Like the list though.'' Don't agree with you on Jane Doe, and I also feel that fault and fracture isn't the best song. It should be Concubine (best opener ever) + fault and fracture because concubine pretty much flows into fault and fracture. I feel they sould be seen as one song. And that would be the best of Jane Doe, IMO.
ShadowAmI 10.09.10	great list man. 2 isn't my favorite converge either.
wyankeif1337 10.09.10	I saw the title and thought of the "So You Want to Play Metalcore" guide. I was disappointed. Good list, though.
puma35 10.09.10	list is sweet
Antipunk 10.10.10	I'm glad some people are checking out the armed. I kinda wish I put hot damn! on this list because it's one of my favorites.
puma35 10.10.10	yea I agree, Hot Damn! should be on here
Antipunk 10.10.10	8 is definitely one of the best bands of the last couple years
Fapper 10.10.10	What is a DIY mentality in terms of musicianship?
Spec 10.10.10	Cool.
dixoncocks 10.10.10	pass the flask is their best by far.
Antipunk 10.10.10	@fapper DIY is a do it yourself mentality. doesnt really effect their music but it makes me respect them more.
deftones27 10.21.10	It has we are the Romans yay beatiful album. Its about the USA's sense of self immortality.
Satellite 10.21.10	Guide to metalcore: don't listen to metalcore.
climactic 10.21.10	good descriptions
Bfhurricane 10.21.10	I actually haven't listened to any of these. That's right, forget all you Jane Doe fans.
Dryden 10.21.10	dood gescriptions
Satellite 10.21.10	1, 2, 5 are essentials.
Jakeitwasaghost 10.21.10	7 is delicious.
climactic 10.21.10	doos gedriptions
eternium 10.21.10	8 is all I don't have.
Satellite 10.21.10	stop god dice rio
Antipunk 10.21.10	You should get 8 if u like bacon
eternium 10.21.10	What if I love bacon?
Antipunk 10.21.10	Download their ep too :)
awhiteguy 10.21.10	Johnny Truant Integrity Knut Deadguy Dead Man In Reno
Antipunk 10.21.10	While making bacon
awhiteguy 10.21.10	Oh, and Rorschach.
eternium 10.21.10	Rorschach, Integrity, and Deadguy yes. Knut is pretty awesome as well.
awhiteguy 10.21.10	Thank for riding in on my coat-tails, eternium.
eternium 10.21.10	Just seconding those bands, bro.
witchxrapist 10.21.10	"Johnny Truant Integrity Knut Deadguy Dead Man In Reno" IDK about DMIR unless you're considering them the only essential deathcore band to ever exist haha. Needs more 7 Angels 7 Plagues, Skycamefalling, Norma Jean, Integrity, Underoath, Acacia Strain (even if you don't like them, you can't deny how fucking influential they are), a more important Bled Album, no The Armed, etc.
awhiteguy 10.21.10	Acacia Strain are influential? Since when?
eternium 10.21.10	The Acacia Strain has been very influential... on bands just as shitty as they are.
witchxrapist 10.21.10	"Acacia Strain are influential? Since when?" Are you kidding me? 3750 is one of the most emulated albums in the modern metalcore scene lol. @Etermium: you listen to the worst pop metalcore dude.
witchxrapist 10.21.10	Oh and Last Call For The Living is definitely a way more essential Coalesce album.
awhiteguy 10.21.10	"Are you kidding me? 3750 is one of the most emulated albums in the modern metalcore scene lol." Okay, you have a point. They influenced a whole wave of shitty metalcore/deathcore. Thanks guys!
Antipunk 10.21.10	I'm not sure why the list would need Norma Jean if I have botch on here...
eternium 10.21.10	0:12 is definitely the most essential Coalesce. You insulting my general liking of As I Lay Dying (partly nostalgic at this point) has nothing on your obsession with all of the shitty deathcore.
witchxrapist 10.21.10	Because Norma Jean has their own sound and is an extremely important metalcore band? Also, why no Drowningman and Sincebyman?
awhiteguy 10.21.10	Norma Jean has their own sound? Damn, did they influence Botch?!?!
witchxrapist 10.21.10	Like, yes, you can tell Norma Jean was hugely influenced by Botch, and some of their earlier songs were laughably similar to Botch songs (Huttons Great Heat Engine vs. Human Face Divine), but if you're seriously gonna pretend that songs like Memphis Will Be Laid To Waste and Face : Face sound like Botch, I'm gonna explode.
awhiteguy 10.21.10	You better go ahead and set your timer then.
witchxrapist 10.21.10	"Norma Jean has their own sound? Damn, did they influence Botch?!?!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9720uHPsWY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lsiLuAOT3w Yeah man, these two songs sound EXACTLY like Botch and aren't two of their most popular songs...
witchxrapist 10.21.10	"You better go ahead and set your timer then." You better go ahead and actually listen to Norma Jean and Botch then.
theacademy 10.21.10	more like 'guide to (pretty good but) genericore' i was hoping for something interesting
witchxrapist 10.21.10	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agdu9IQoywE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga7ruKPP6UA omg EXACTLY like Botch!
Antipunk 10.21.10	Rapist u should make a metalcore list. I am ignorant compared to you.
witchxrapist 10.21.10	I'm just making suggestions, no need to get butthurt mister. :)
awhiteguy 10.21.10	Lol, why are you acting like they sound exactly like Botch? I said they were heavily influenced by them, that's all. It doesn't hurt that 99.9% of their songs from their first two releases could have easily found a home on any Botch record(of course no songs would, because Botch is actually GOOD).
witchxrapist 10.21.10	Also, ironically I made a "guide to metalcore" list that's 30 albums long but I can't find it. I'll remake it just for yew. :3!
witchxrapist 10.21.10	"It doesn't hurt that 99.9% of their songs from their first two releases could have easily found a home on any Botch record" LOL, you've CLEARLY never listened to Bless The Martyr..., I agree that O' God! sounds a lot more like Botch, but even so it has a lot lot lot more post hardcore influence. "(of course no songs would, because Botch is actually GOOD)." Yeah because a band being popular and Christian automatically means they're bad! Norma Jean's first two albums are immense
witchxrapist 10.21.10	Also, Norma Jean w/ Josh Scogin = way better vocals than Botch.
ShoeSoup 10.21.10	the true 'guide to metalcoar' is to stay far, far away from it
awhiteguy 10.21.10	"Yeah because a band being popular and Christian automatically means they're bad!" Good assumption, too bad I like Underoath, As I Lay Dying(to a certain degree), but hey, assumptions are good, right?!?! "LOL, you've CLEARLY never listened to Bless The Martyr..., " I've listened to it. Hell, I was all about that when I was an angry, un-informed 18-19 year old. Now that I've grown up a bit and listened to the progenitors of metalcore, I know that Norma Jean weren't all that original, and for that matter, not all that great. But hey, assumptions are great, huh?
witchxrapist 10.21.10	"Good assumption, too bad I like Underoath, As I Lay Dying(to a certain degree), but hey, assumptions are good, right?!?!" Well then, what exactly makes NJ's first two albums shitty? I agree the past three are bad. "I've listened to it. Hell, I was all about that when I was an angry, un-informed 18-19 year old. Now that I've grown up a bit and listened to the progenitors of metalcore, I know that Norma Jean weren't all that original, and for that matter, not all that great. But hey, assumptions are great, huh?" And you SERIOUSLY think the album sounds like Botch? are you deaf? It's definitely got classic 'mathcore' influences, but that album is VERY VERY distinct. And tbh, that album is fucking HEAVY and classic.
awhiteguy 10.21.10	Mappy, keep it up. This is better than any stand-up comedian I've ever seen.
witchxrapist 10.21.10	Yeah, I'm pretty sure you got made fun of for liking Norma Jean at some point and took it to heart. This is Pit isn't it? Also, you pretend old NJ sounds exactly like Botch and isn't good, but then admit to liking ALID ahahahahaha.
awhiteguy 10.21.10	Nah, I never got made fun of liking Norma Jean. Plus, if I did, would I care? Probably not. See? This is where you and I are different, Mappy. If I like something and 99.9% of the rest of the world doesn't and wants to crack on me for it, I don't post multiple paragraphdefending said band. Why? Because I don't care.
witchxrapist 10.21.10	Like, your argument here is the equivalent of saying The Number 12 is a Fear Before rip-off because you can hear influence in their sound.
awhiteguy 10.21.10	Lol, keep putting words in my mouth. It just means you're reaching.
witchxrapist 10.21.10	"This is where you and I are different, Mappy. If I like something and 99.9% of the rest of the world doesn't and wants to crack on me for it, I don't post multiple paragraphdefending said band. Why? Because I don't care." 1. Single sentences & links != paragraphs. 2. I'm still convinced your deaf if you think any of those NJ songs I linked sound like Botch.
witchxrapist 10.21.10	"Lol, keep putting words in my mouth. It just means you're reaching." I said your argument's "the equivalent of...", do you even know what, "putting words in someone elses mouth," means?
witchxrapist 10.21.10	I just think the Norma Jean/Botch comparison is tired and was inaccurate any time before or after 2005. And regardless, band IS an essential.
awhiteguy 10.21.10	Yeah, considering I never said "rip-off," nor "I hate this band because they're Christian and popular." Yeah, I think I understand what "putting words in your mouth" means.
witchxrapist 10.21.10	You didn't say rip-off, you said that any of those songs could land a spot on a Botch album. What does that imply? Seriously, you're not good at trolling. You just look like an idiot whenever you try, example: when you tried trolling bringonthebreakdown.
witchxrapist 10.21.10	"Norma Jean has their own sound? Damn, did they influence Botch?!?!" and this doesn't imply that Norma Jean is a Botch rip-off? Let it go.
awhiteguy 10.21.10	Who said I was even trolling? Because I disagree with you I'm trolling? Lol, Mappy, talk about needing to let it go.....
demigod! 10.21.10	Good list.
witchxrapist 10.21.10	You're either attempting to troll me or you're deaf. There's no other way this can make sense.
awhiteguy 10.21.10	Or you're just ignorant and want to find any excuse to make yourself feel better for liking the majority of junk you listen to.
witchxrapist 10.21.10	I'm ignorant? ahahahahahahaha. Norma Jeans doesn't sound like Botch outside of obvious influence. Norma Jean used to be good and is hugely popular. You don't like them, awesome, they're still and important metalcore band. Also, readdressing The Acacia Strain: you said they aren't influential, and now you're calling me ignorant? Get your head out of your ass. And on the assumption that this is Pit, go listen to As I Lay Dying and pretend that Prayer For Cleansing isn't good, ya wee boaby.
Inveigh 10.21.10	did someone say this list should've included a better Bled album? because I'm pretty sure Pass the Flask is easily the best Bled album...
Josh D. 10.21.10	I don't like traditional, old school metalcore.
awhiteguy 10.21.10	Who the fuck is Prayer for Cleansing?
Josh D. 10.21.10	http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l4rc7vzHkh1qzh5gno1_400.jpg
awhiteguy 10.21.10	So true.
ShoeSoup 10.21.10	but guys this genre sucks. why don't you try some music that ISN'T pathetic?
Spec 10.21.10	rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
Idnuf 10.21.10	Why don't you try NOT being a douchebag?
Fuff24 10.21.10	no, I haven't heard any of this, because this genre blows.
ShoeSoup 10.22.10	no, I haven't heard any of this, because this genre blows. [2]
Emim 10.22.10	^urrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr a moron
Strider 10.22.10	just to make this a 100.
Oceans 10.22.10	downloading 8 now.. and its free? boss
Emim 10.22.10	It's a good list, just missing a lot of stuff.
witchxrapist 10.22.10	"Who the fuck is Prayer for Cleansing?" The band that started this whole mess of LOL LETS RIP OFF ATG AND THROW IN BREAKDOWN
witchxrapist 10.22.10	"did someone say this list should've included a better Bled album? because I'm pretty sure Pass the Flask is easily the best Bled album..." Yeah, I just realized I thought it said Heat Fetish for some reason? I was high don't hate bb. :(
ShoeSoup 10.24.10	no, I haven't heard any of this, because this genre blows. [3]
Gorification 10.24.10	your cliche elitist comments are getting old. just shut up, nobody cares.
ShoeSoup 10.27.10	^your cliche, angsty metalcoar comments are getting old. just shut up, nobody cares. no, I haven't heard any of this, because this genre blows. [4]
BringMeABrick 02.21.11	Fault and Fracture the best song off Jane Doe? Huh? I must say, I don't agree with that. lol