LaCosaNostra13: These Bands Are Not Hardcore

LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Oh, the lulz
PanasonicYouth 07.29.10	i agree with this list
fr33convict 07.29.10	LULZ
McCopper 07.29.10	Hardcore sucks anyway
PanasonicYouth 07.29.10	"Hardcore sucks anyway" LOOOOOOL
fr33convict 07.29.10	BR00TAL BREAD-DOWNZ!
Apollo 07.29.10	dude stfu emmure is so fucking hardcore alright they will mosh you to death
PanasonicYouth 07.29.10	emmure has their on boxing gloves if thats not HARDCORE then i dunno what is
accompliceofmydeath 07.29.10	I agree. Some of these do have hardcore elements to them though.
dr2den 07.29.10	The Acacia Strain is fightcore
BigHans 07.29.10	Emery is totally Hardcore.
Prolapse 07.29.10	"Hardcore sucks anyway" i like your chart
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Hardcore is the one genre that has stuck to it's roots. Even the more melodic hardcore acts have stuck to it.
greg84 07.29.10	Who cares at the end of the day? Really.
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Lol, I do....
PanasonicYouth 07.29.10	tbh so do i haha
PearlDrummer20 07.29.10	You're not hardcore Unless you live hardcore
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	That's weird, Panasonic. Considering I was ready to lop your head off and shit down your throat last week, I've been agreeing with you quite frequently.
PanasonicYouth 07.29.10	i know wtf quick insult me
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Fuck you, you whiny-run-to-the-mods BITCH!
Dunpeal 07.29.10	Jack Black is hardcore
PanasonicYouth 07.29.10	the balance is restored
greg84 07.29.10	You're not hardcore until you live hardcore. That's true, but genre divisions are overrated tbh. Alt rock for example doesn't mean anything. The same with post-hardcore.
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Lol, really? The genre name "post-hardcore" doesn't mean anything? Should it be just hardcore then? Or should we seperate them like they are now because POST-HARDCORE SOUNDS NOTHING LIKE HARDCORE. Fucking dolt.
Winsomniac 07.29.10	Metal-death-break-doom-core. Also, shit in mouth for minor genre screw up because you know what they mean to say and nobody gives a fuck enough to split hairs about genre -> warrants lots of shit in yo mouf. Hardcore quarters, incoming. Bring your best shitstorm. Mouth has been flame-proof'd.
acorncheese 07.29.10	lol @ people who get angry over shit like this.
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Speak English, dude. Please, I don't understand the retarded ramblings of an idiot.
PanasonicYouth 07.29.10	sorry i'm a genre nazi and it pisses me off when people label things like avenged sevenfold as black metal and shit
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	And I don't get mad about this stuff. I just feel a need to violently inform people of their mistakes and follow it up with disturbing personal threats.
Sheeple9000 07.29.10	LULZ [9001]
greg84 07.29.10	Ok. So enlighten me. How is Thrice even remotely similar to Glassjaw?
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Yeah, it's pretty upsetting when you are a witness to a conversation like this: Bro 1: "Hey dude, what do you listen to?" Bro 2: "I'm all about hardcore, bro. That's my favorite type of music!" Bro 1: "Oh yeah? WHo do you listen to? Black Flag? 7 Seconds? Verse? Minor Threat?" Bro 2: "Nah, I never heard of any of those. I listen to mainly Emmure and Parkway Drive!" Bro 1: "What the fuck is wrong with you?"
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Thrice isn't exactly post-hardore, dude.
Winsomniac 07.29.10	It's not just a name; it's a way of life! You got punched, in the dick, COCKPUUUUUUUUNNNNCHHHHHHH!!!! EAT. SHIT! And cosa, I know what you mean, but that's like getting mad at a baby because he can't aim. They don't bro(w) any better.
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Dude, when it's a 29 year old guy covered in ink saying that garbage, then it's pathetic. Especially when he considers himself a "music-freak." As you can see, this is someone I know.
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	We could even extend that list a bit: Verse 7 Seconds Youth of Today Ceremony Modern Life is War Negative Approach Gorilla Biscuits
PanasonicYouth 07.29.10	defeater?
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Oh shit Yeah, definitely Defeater
Buccaneer 07.29.10	Sweet, Youth of Today You never see those guys mentioned nowadays
Winsomniac 07.29.10	Fuck you all, Have Heart is hardcore. Don't give a FUCK if it's not good enough hardcore for you, it's hardcore. And lol cosa, c'mon, you should know enough stereotypes to be unsurprised. After all, thats what subjectivity is ;]
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Buccaneer, that's one of my favorite hardcore acts. They deserve every mention they get, along with bands like 7 seconds and the Gorilla Biscuits.
PanasonicYouth 07.29.10	have heart is good just not nearly as good as some other bands and i really need to check out youth of today
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	What does stereotypes have to do with it? Cuz he's inked up? Dude, I'm inked up, and I at least know what the real shit is. and Have Heart is hardcore, just not very good hardcore.
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	D.R.I. I would think is more along the lines of thrash, but there is definitely a hardcore feel to the band.
Skybreaker 07.29.10	Parkway Drive's first album slays
PanasonicYouth 07.29.10	someone needs to make a list of all the worthwhile hardcore bands cuz i need moar
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Panasonic needs to get on that Youth of Today shit right now
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	I'm working on one as we speak, Panasonic
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	I dunno, Sonic. That's at least one band I can see going either way, because they straddle that fine line throughout most of their music.
PanasonicYouth 07.29.10	descendents are so pop punk come on
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Pop-punk all the way. In fact, I think they were one of the first to coin the genre term.
Winsomniac 07.29.10	You said Bro 1 and inked up(like it meant more than a few tattoos). I just connected the dots, that's all. Iunno, HH got that raw passion, ever seen em live? Dudes are great.
PanasonicYouth 07.29.10	great band btw
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Winsomniac- I mean, they're okay, just not great. I saw them with Champion about 5 years ago and they were great live, though.
Winsomniac 07.29.10	Live show is pretty awesome. Maybe I'm just a sucker for less-than-awesome but quotable lyrics.
greg84 07.29.10	"Thrice isn't exactly post-hardore, dude." I don't think they are, but the general opinion is different. The same goes with alt rock that groups such dissimilar bands as Therapy? and Radiohead. And don't even make me start my rant about progressive metal. So, yeah. I think genre divisions are overrated and I try to care less.
Winsomniac 07.29.10	^ This. It's a losing battle. I used to/still would care, but it's no use, man.
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Lol, no offense guys, but what are you doing here then?
Inveigh 07.29.10	I've always thought of D.R.I. as pretty much the definition of Crossover. Maybe Suicidal Tendencies too.
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Andcas- I generally agree with you, but it's frustrating when you're trying to have a conversation with someone who lures you in with the promise of talking great music and then starts spitting out pure garbage. Blake- Yeah, I'm kinda with you on that. They both straddle the line.
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Lol, I'll ask the same question as I asked someone before then: With all due respect(seriously), what in the hell are you doing in here then?
botb 07.29.10	2 isn't deathcore, but nice try.
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	God, you're dumb. You're going to tell me that 3750 and Continent aren't deathcore? REally? I mean, I'll give you a pass on the new one because it's more metalcore(hence the metalcore/deathcore in my description), but the 2 before were definitely deathcore.
botb 07.29.10	calling 3750 deathcore is barely passable. continent was definitely not deathcore. the only real deathcore thing they ever did was their first release.
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	What do you consider Whitechapel then?
botb 07.29.10	whitechapel is deathcore because they actually have DEATH METAL PARTS. honestly how hard is this?
PanasonicYouth 07.29.10	deathcore is just shitty brutal breakdown after breakdown after breakdown aka the acacia strain and whitechapel
botb 07.29.10	no deathcore is a metalcore band with a lot of deathmetal influences. breakdowns are prevalent in a lot of different types of metal and even hardcore. metalcore and deathcore are just the ones it tends to dominate. But there's a lot of breakdowns in say... august burns red or haste the day. or even a band like guns up! has a ton of mosh parts. so does that make them deathcore?
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Keep it coming, Bringonthebreakdown. I should have known your idiotic logic through your dumb name. Also, just to validate what I'm saying with some examples of another genre: Post-hardcore Fugazi and At the Drive-In sound nothing alike, yet they are both considered post-hardcore. Get my drift? Now please, stop labeling your music incorrectly just so you can justify liking it. Thanks. Bye!
botb 07.29.10	no one could ever have thought my name was a joke to get dumb people like you to troll me based on it. stop trying to call a band deathcore that isn't to justify hating it. thanks. bye!
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	You done breaking down, breakdown?
botb 07.29.10	and tbh, my logic seems fine. i think it's yours that's flawed, because when i make a good point, you end up just personally attacking me and trying to insult me and shit instead of making counter points.
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Ummm, I don't hate deathcore, just bands like the Acacia Strain. I like some Despised Icon, some All Shall Perish, and some Animosity for example. And I'm not trolling you, as evidenced by you starting this dumb, inane conversation by posting a stupid, uninformed statement on MY list.
botb 07.29.10	nope. jun jun jun your dumb jun jun squee
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Yep, good one. Instead of continuing to post drivel, try reinforcing your arguments next time with something other than, "You're wrong."
PanasonicYouth 07.29.10	(deathcore) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUgCxVbtlMQ (more deathcore) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIUdFuY74ek (MORE DEATHCORE)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFx85CfMvWI sounds absolutely nothing like (metalcore) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4spcEtoZdcM&feature=avmsc2 or this (more metalcore)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml7O8Tfc_PA or this (EVEN MORE METALCORE) (also an undeniably adorable video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6ozRl795m4 RIGHT LIST
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	pwned
botb 07.29.10	dude you haven't even given me a counter argument other than "you're stupid and wrong lol" and i gave you my definition of deathcore. and what genre they actually are. i've told you my side. and all you've done is try to insult me. learn 2 have a discussion without getting butthurt
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Lol, who's butthurt? I think you're a bit cornfused
botb 07.29.10	i mean you're the one sinking to personal attacks instead of having a discussion. ok why is the acacia strain deathcore? where are the death metal influences in their music?
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	At the top of TAS's page: The Acacia Strain Death Metal, Metalcore Hmmm..... death metal and metalcore???? SOUNDS LIKE DEATHCORE TO ME!!!! Also, look at Josh's posts, and then look at the other posts in the other list. Usually when you're arguing with 15 people and you're the only one on your side, then maybe you might be wrong.
PanasonicYouth 07.29.10	wikipedia also lists the acacia strain as deathcore you're literally the only person i've seen call them metalcore damn nigga u must listen to some hevy shit
botb 07.29.10	dude wikipedia is sure a good source that anyone can't change.
PanasonicYouth 07.29.10	cept wikipedia has a huge team of bots and mods that make sure everything is cited and sourced and correct and i can guaranfuckingtee you that if you change something, it'll get changed back in five minutes. you don't fuck with the wiki.
botb 07.29.10	la, i didn't ask you what was on top of their myspace page. i asked you what parts of their music have death metal influences. especially on continent.
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Shit, I tried to change the Sputnik wiki page to a bunch of random homophobic slurs and that shit got changed in about 30 seconds.
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	THE WHOLE FUCKING ALBUM!!!! ARE YOU REALLY THAT DEAF?!?! Plus, it's not at the top of their myspace page(and even if it was, that would make it even more legit, which would make your argument even more worthless), but at the top of their Sputnik Page.
botb 07.29.10	that's why greg puciato's wiki page had chuck norris facts made for him on his page for weeks right, pana?
PanasonicYouth 07.29.10	looking through the puciato page history right now and i'm not seeing weeks of chuck norris facts so idk what you're talking about
botb 07.29.10	la, you still haven't given me any specifics. why is it this difficult for you to give me instances when there are death metal influences? i'm beginning to doubt you're ability to read
botb 07.29.10	fuuuu got squirrelly with my ' key. *your
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	How many different sources does one need before they figure out that their view on the subject is the wrong one? Jesus christ. There's like 800 different people/places/sites telling you their deathcore, AND YET YOU STILL refuse to budge.
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	My ability to read? Really? Do I have to remind you what it says at the top of their Sputnik page and on their Wiki page? Check out their myspace page, which, if I'm not mistaken, is mostly moderated by band members and/or people close to the band. It says metal/hardcore/death metal. Their last.fm page says they are deathcore. WHAT THE FUCK ELSE DO YOU NEED?!?! Vincent to show up at your door and punch you?
botb 07.29.10	itt, two users and the sputnik review site itself are 800 sources. and you are still refusing to give me instances where there are death metal parts on continent? why? prove to me that you're right.
ConsiderPhlebas 07.29.10	Refused are probably the best post-hardcore band ever. I really like The Shape of Post-hardcore to Come.
Inveigh 07.29.10	I'd personally liken The Acacia Strain more to a made up genre called "nu-core" than deathcore, but they're still closer in sound to bands like Whitechapel than they are to bands like Converge or even Unearth. So, if "nu-core" isn't an accepted genre, then they are deathcore. Guilty by association, beotch.
Inveigh 07.29.10	also, /thread
botb 07.29.10	they're really close sound-wise to bands like parkway drive and emmure yet parkway drive and emmure are metalcore and tas is deathcore watisthisidonteven
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	No, Jewel. While the Refused are great, don't ignore the best, and the best is Fugazi.
Inveigh 07.29.10	I don't really hear the Parkway Drive comparison at all, unless you're just talking vocally, and then you're proving LaCosa's point. Because PwD's vocals are death metal or deathcore more than they are metalcore. and yeah, I can hear the Emmure thing (who sound nothing like PwD mind you) but Emmure to me is more "nu-core" than anything, and if I can't call them that then I'll call them shitty deathcore. So yeah, The Acacia Strain are still deathcore. Unless nu-core counts (which I think it should).
Winsomniac 07.29.10	My two cents(or flying quarters, take your pick): Nu is a Greek letter. Always bugged the shit out of me that it became a prefix that sounded like some bastard child of "new" and "neo"
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	If quarters are flying, lemme know. Vincent's out getting a $1 double cheeseburger at McDonald's, and I'm sitting here starving.
jesusjuice1179 07.29.10	"Ok. So enlighten me. How is Thrice even remotely similar to Glassjaw?" "Thrice isn't exactly post-hardore, dude." "Fugazi and At the Drive-In sound nothing alike, yet they are both considered post-hardcore. Get my drift? Now please, stop labeling your music incorrectly just so you can justify liking it. Thanks. Bye!" "While the Refused are great, don't ignore the best, and the best is Fugazi." this thread might be the most retarded thing i've ever read through
ConsiderPhlebas 07.29.10	Refused: Hardcore/Punk MYSPACE NEVER LIES! or does it?
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Yeah, cuz you have so much credibility on here, right, JesusJuice? Aren't you considered the most retarded user on this site? Damn, you have about as much credibility on Sputnik as Bill Clinton does with Hillary.
jesusjuice1179 07.29.10	lol someone's a little butthurt
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Apparently JesusJuice is uninformed of who I am. Does IntothePit ever really get butthurt? Or are you just that gullible?
jesusjuice1179 07.29.10	oh shit this is pit!
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	How are you, my little retarded friend?
jesusjuice1179 07.29.10	not to good actually, i got a concussion from getting drunk and falling on a rock square on my head
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Really? Damn, that sucks dude. I can relate, except it wasn't my head, it was my neck, my back, my pussy and my crack.
Apollo 07.29.10	BringontheLOLdown
jesusjuice1179 07.29.10	lol
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	In fact, I'm drunk right now......
botb 07.29.10	oh youre into the pit? that'd explain you getting all up in arms so easy.
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Lol, apparently you haven't a clue how I am, bringontheshitdown. If you think I was butthurt then, you got another thing coming
Apollo 07.29.10	you got played dude. It's what Pit does. He sucks people into an endless argument/debate/fight for hours on end. He probably doesn't even care that much lol
botb 07.29.10	dude holy crap a guy changing a word in my name to shit to show how unelite he thinks i am how groundbreaking!
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Yeah, I know. Ain't I a smart one?
botb 07.29.10	i think the part i'm the most concerned about is the fact you're drunk, alone, and on sputnik. how sad is your life right now on a scale of 1-10?
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	Yeah, cuz I'm really drunk at 2:43 in the afternoon at work. Yep, you got me there. Jesus Christ, you're about as gullible as Jesusjuice.
botb 07.29.10	i was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you had alcohol in your system. i didn't really want to believe that you're that much of a neanderthal but i guess you are
2muchket! 07.29.10	list and the whole comments are so csb
LaCosaNostra13 07.29.10	"i was giving you the benefit of the doubt that you had alcohol in your system. i didn't really want to believe that you're that much of a neanderthal but i guess you are" Lol, what?
Winsomniac 07.29.10	Do I can haz cred if I makez teh alt akkountz?
Willie 07.29.10	Hatebreed are a good band to listen to at the gym, I don't care what genre they're in.
Inveigh 07.29.10	^yeah, Satisfaction is the Death of Desire will always get me pumped up
Winsomniac 07.29.10	TAS sucks to listen to at the gym though. I mean srsly, Breakdowns? In-Your-Face lyrics? Heavily distorted guitars? Who the fuck wants to lift really heavy things really angrily to that?! oh wait....
Deviant. 07.29.10	"cept wikipedia has a huge team of bots and mods that make sure everything is cited and sourced and correct and i can guaranfuckingtee you that if you change something, it'll get changed back in five minutes. you don't fuck with the wiki." Lol, my flatmate was the mayor of Auckland for 2 years so god knows what you're on about
Winsomniac 07.29.10	^ Now the real trick is to cite it on his resume.
Deviant. 07.30.10	Not to sure how far he'd get with that
Willie 07.30.10	No, you're not hardcore... unless live hardcore.
Synesthete 07.30.10	people on sputnik get mad at eachother too easily
Winsomniac 07.30.10	As far as he fucking wants, man. He's the Mayor of Auckland. Political power, baby!
botb 07.30.10	the weird thing is i wasn't even mad, i was tryna educate a nigga.
Winsomniac 07.30.10	Niggaz. They need to be educated. On how to sportz right. I'M LOOKIN' AT YOU, LEBRON!
AnalAnnihilator 05.05.11	Hardcore is shit anyway so who gives a fuck?
demigod! 05.05.11	no shit
Josh D. 05.05.11	Thanks for the bump, you god damn asshole.
Josh D. 05.05.11	You're on FB.