Gyromania
08.20.22 | Took a while to get this out. Gonna add soundtracks to the database so I can get accurate album covers to go with these |
PotsyTater
08.20.22 | Some thoughts:
Kirby and the forgotten lands sucks a lot
From what I heard the Mario kart dlc courses are just ported from mobile and that’s why gravity boosts are non existent and why the graphics are different. I haven’t played the second wave yet but I was disappointed by the first. But it’s if it’s true that it’s just ports then I kind of doubt there will be any new characters or karts to come.
Stray was cute. I didn’t finish it but I enjoyed my time with it. Definitely a one and done.
Until dawn was fun so I will probably try quarry eventually
I’m playing xcom2 right now and I love a lot about it and then hate some really crucial things about it |
Gyromania
08.20.22 | I think the wave 2 tracks were a drastic improvement on the first. Many tracks are taken from Tour but they're very graphically enhanced. The difference is night and day to me. Graphics in the second wave are honestly on par with the core game imo - and there's a brand new track that's fully anti grav!
If you liked Until Dawn you'll definitely like Quarry. You can say and do some hilarious shit in that game.
XCOM 2 is so fucking good, but there were certain missions where I just felt like there was nothing I could do about losing because I'd just have to know key things in order to win |
PotsyTater
08.20.22 | That’s great to hear re: mk8
As a turn based strategy game xcom2 is nearly perfect. It’s everything I want from a game like that. My only gripes are not being able to restart a mission, the abysmal load times, and how ridiculously over the top crushingly punishing it can be. |
PotsyTater
08.20.22 | The thing is, the difficulty wouldn’t be a problem if the load times were better and you could restart missions buuuuut |
PotsyTater
08.20.22 | Like I’m playing on easy mode and some of the “bosses” are still just like, not even fair |
IsisScript80
08.20.22 | "Sonic and the Fallen Star:
This is a huge middle finger to Sega."
TBF, Sega have a whole heap of shit to be angry about with them, but they are pretty good with fan stuff in this regard--what became 'Sonic Mania' started as a fan-made project, and Sega did the right thing and officially license it, which is WAaaAY better than 99.9% of these other arseholes crushing these projects as soon as they see them, then releasing bullshit AI "remasters", à la Rockstar, for example. |
Mort.
08.20.22 | just started replaying sekiro, only ever finished it once
got to lady butterfly in my first session last night and she beat the shit out of me. |
twlight
08.20.22 | Yep she'll do that |
Pikazilla
08.20.22 | cult of the lamb is cool |
Pikazilla
08.20.22 | gyro have you ever played Blasphemous btw?
I can't remember if we've had this conversation or not |
Mort.
08.20.22 | im not gyro but i have played blasphemous
not very experienced with that genre but i really enjoyed it, great art style, reasonable level of difficulty. fun game. havent played the free dlc/update yet |
Pikazilla
08.20.22 | Oh nice
The DLC actually has the real ending to the whole game
I recently got Tarnishing of Juxtia, which is also a dark metroidvania like Blasphemous, will probably play some tonight :3 |
Trebor.
08.20.22 | I almost never buy games new but I'm really looking forward to Cult of the Lamb |
Gyromania
08.20.22 | potsy: yeah the difficulty is a bit overtuned. I'm assuming you're playing it on a PS4? the load times on older gen consoles is brutal in general, the PS5 is a massive improvement in that arena.
isis: true, Sega isn't Konami or anything that radical, I've just seen from the Mania team and team behind Origins that Sega is extremely hard to work with and fucked up their coding in the final product. there's a reason we probably won't be getting a Mania 2.
Mort: keep at it! Sekiro is a game I didn't rly vibe with after my first playthrough. it wasn't until I played it again, and then again, and again that it became one of my favourites game of all time. it's a game where mastering it takes a lot of time and effort, but when you get to that point, it feels like there's nothing else like it.
Pika: I haven't delved too deep into Blasphemous. I do own the game and played for about an hour, but I have so many games on the go, and I ended up putting it down. I've heard it gets really good as it goes and has solid DLC. |
hal1ax
08.20.22 | i dont rly game much anymore but i ended up trying 13 cuz it looked cool and it's amazing. wish i knew of more stuff like it |
Mort.
08.20.22 | 'Mort: keep at it! Sekiro is a game I didn't rly vibe with after my first playthrough. it wasn't until I played it again, and then again, and again that it became one of my favourites game of all time. it's a game where mastering it takes a lot of time and effort, but when you get to that point, it feels like there's nothing else like it.'
yeah i remember eventually getting into the swing of it when i played it last year. seems like all those skills and muscle memory have diminished tho. managed to do pretty well up until lady butterfly, didnt have any trouble with any of the minor bosses you encounter up until then. then she just destroyed me lol.
one thing thats made it easieer than i remember is that im actually getting into the habit of using items in fromsoft games now. like, actually using fistfuls of ash and ceramic shards makes sekiro waaay easier |
PotsyTater
08.20.22 | Yeah on base ps4 gyro
Also blasphemous is great |
Gyromania
08.20.22 | Johnny: Malekith is the boss I always dread the most. I still haven't gotten good at some bosses, and he's one of them. I can dance circles around Godfrey, but Malekith seems almost too fast for the game. Also pls feature this list and also yes check out 13 asap (it's on sale rn iirc)
Mort: the real trick to Sekiro is being aggressive. Remember, the boss has to react to you swinging at them. The best way to fight bosses like Madame Butterfly is keep running at them and hitting them until it's their turn, then deflect everything and immedaitely start assaulting them again. It is cool that there are so many neat items and techniques you can use, and cool prosthetics, but you'll have the most success and most fun with the game if you take everything head on and learn when to attack and when to block. This is why Owl Father is my #1 Fromsoft boss, it feels so good to be able to dictate the flow of combat and react to some crazy fast moves.
Potsy: oof, I feel for ya mang. I had base PS4 from day one and never upgraded it. Some games on it are downright unplayable, like Control. Even Elden Ring is pretty rough on it once you play it on better hardware |
Mort.
08.21.22 | 'This is why Owl Father is my #1 Fromsoft boss, it feels so good to be able to dictate the flow of combat and react to some crazy fast moves.'
yuh i remember loving that boss fight and it also being one of the biggest challenges in the game. on my first playthrough i did an ending where you fight Sword Saint Ishin. going to do the ending where you fight the other version of ishin this time (siding with owl i think? will have to look up how you get the other endings) |
Pikazilla
08.21.22 | johnny try playing the game without summons instead, those are way too cheap and lame |
PotsyTater
08.21.22 | @gyro yeah Elden Ring load times arent too bad on base ps4 but xcom2 tests my patience. i actually might drop it and come back when i get a ps5. ive just been waiting until its a bit less of a grind to find one. |
Gyromania
08.21.22 | Mort: yeah Owl Father was a huge challenge for me my first time through. Now he's lucky if he lands a hit on me haha. Sword Saint is Imo much harder, but he's also like top 3 Fromsoft for me (might make a boss ranking next). And dw, if you do the shura ending, older Isshin is way easier than Sword Saint.
Pika: I think it's a wee bit lame that the game wants you to rely on those as a win condition. On subsequent plays you can damage boost a good amount of shit and your healing should be nearing maxed out.
Pots: I didn't think Elden Ring load times were especially bad either, but they're nearly instant on PS5. It's crazy how much time you save. XCOM2 is something I promise you'll enjoy more on PS5 for the faster load times alone, but while we're talking about it, I'd also recommend waiting to get a PS5 before playing ER again. The framerate, draw distance, pop-in, etc., is vastly improved on the PS5, to the point I couldn't go back to playing it on the PS4 |
Pikazilla
08.21.22 | The game doesn't MAKE you rely on those, but most players do because the mechanic trivialises a lot of key fights. You can always pre-summon your minions, wait for them to hit the boss, and while they are fighting each other, start chipping away at the boss's health. Not cool. |
Gyromania
08.21.22 | Sure, it doesn't 'make' you I suppose, but who won't on their first playthrough? Since the game really wants players to use it and their endgame bosses are way overtuned. I've found with subsequent plays that it's a lot easier to manage without them as opposed to that first run |
Pikazilla
08.21.22 | I also think the summoning mechanic sort of ruins the whole fromsoftware spirit present in their other games, because players lose the incentive to learn the bosses' attack patterns and ways to dodge them, so it becomes basically them spamming spells from a faraway corner like little bitches instead of taking the challenge head on. Meh. |
PotsyTater
08.22.22 | @gyro oh of course, I fully intend to play ER on PS5 and I’ve also saved the ghost of Tsushima dlc for a second shot run on ps5 as well |
Colton
08.22.22 | never been a person that cares much about specs/FPS and what not but Elden Ring was pretty much unplayable for me on ps4. seriously laggy |
PotsyTater
08.22.22 | I just started Hades |
Gyromania
08.22.22 | Yeah Colton is borderline unplayable in certain areas. Massive fps drops.
Yo potsy lmk how u like Hades. Also you reminded me I still need to best ghost of Tsushima. I never did the third and final island.
Storm: I'm deeply sorry to hear that. Hopefully you can find some money to get an actual game sometime soon |
Mort.
08.22.22 | I just started playing Hades 3 weeks ago, managed to platinum it in about 2 weeks. Brilliant game . Had been playing a lot of slay the spire over the last year and even though that's a very different sort of roguelike (or is it roguelite? I can never remember which ones which) a lot of the tactics and ways of thinking carried over so I managed to get decent at it pretty quickly. Love me some Poseidon dash spam |
PotsyTater
08.22.22 | slay the spire was cool i wish it was more of a deckbuilder combined with the roguelite card game thing goin on |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | Mort: did you unlock the secret boss in Hades? I think that's the only thing I haven't done. And fully upgrade the hub. I've heard about Slay the Spire but I never looked into it. "i wish it was more of a deckbuilder combined with the roguelite card game thing goin on" You would probaly like Inscryption. |
FreakMachine
08.24.22 | "A banner year for gaming" - Theres been hardly anything |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | Except for all the awesome shit I put on my list, and the things I haven't played and the things still to come |
FreakMachine
08.24.22 | I personally hated most the things on your list, or rather just didnt like them much. Elden Ring was good though |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | I will gladly check your list and hate it accordingly if you feature my list!
Also
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But fr what's your idea of good gaming? Because clearly gameplay and art direction mustn't be super important to you |
FreakMachine
08.24.22 | "But fr what's your idea of good gaming? Because clearly gameplay and art direction mustn't be super important to you "
Not half of these games tbh. I played Stray, thought it was overhyped crap. Theres literally zero gameplay to it. Sifu was overhyped but I get why people enjoy it. The Quarry really isn't for me, Cuphead DLC wasn't anywhere near as good as the base game but was still enjoyable enough, Shredders Revenge is just too outdated now, Kirby and Evil Dead are genuinely awful. |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | Stray was one or the ones I rated lower. I see the appeal but it's basically a walking sim with paws. What did you find awful about Evil Dead? It isn't on the level of DBD and it has major balance issues (I mean so does DBD and other asymmetric games), but I thought it was fun. The cuphead dlc can't be better than the base game, there just isn't enough of it. It does have some of the best bosses in the game though. Idk if it was worth the wait, since I blew threw it in like 2 hours, but it's still a great addition to the game overall imo |
FreakMachine
08.24.22 | "What did you find awful about Evil Dead? It isn't on the level of DBD and it has major balance issues " - The same issue I have with all those type of games, the gameplay is extremely clunky and unsatisfactory
I think the problem is 2020 in particular set such a high bar in recent years. 2021 had an excuse for not so many incredible titles because of the pandemic, but this year has largely been a disappointment. |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | What was so great about 2020? I haven't played much Evil Dead, just a few hours very recently so it's hard for me to remark on its quality overall rn, it just felt kind of fun to be in that universe. |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | DBD is certainly not clunky tho, that game feels great on either side |
Scheumke
08.24.22 | 100% agree with your ER take Gyro. Brilliant game but really need a good time off to forget everything because the open world just doesn't lend it self to replaying it for me.
Haven't really played anything else that actually came out this year. Started on Horizon Forbidden West but wasn't a fan (even though it's visually gorgeous). Really waiting for Silksong and haven't really been playing much in the mean time. Mostly boardgames with friends atm. |
FreakMachine
08.24.22 | DBD is extremely clunky lol. And its literally the same game every single time. And the people who play it are virgins who just camp the whole game. Hated it, except the Stranger Things DLC. Running round as the Demogorgon was okay.
2020 - Animal Crossing New Horizons, Doom Eternal, Zombie Army 4, Warzone, Last Of Us 2, Cyberpunk 2077 (on PC, literally one of the best games I've ever played), FF7 Remake, Gears Tactics, Ghost Of Tsushima, Risk Of Rain 2, Flight Simulator, Factorio, Hades, Ori And The Will Of The Wisps, Serious Sam 4, Crash 4, Demons Souls, Torchlight 3, SpiderMan Miles Morales, Ghostrunner |
protokute
08.24.22 | I had an amazing time with Hades, played it nonstop when I first got it, but after beating daddy a couple of times, I kind of lost the interest to keep doing the runs, maybe because of a burnout thing after playing it nonstop. |
FreakMachine
08.24.22 | "I had an amazing time with Hades, played it nonstop when I first got it, but after beating daddy a couple of times, I kind of lost the interest to keep doing the runs, maybe because of a burnout thing after playing it nonstop. "
Turn up the difficulty lol |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | Scheumke: Yeah some time away will definitely help. Or just do what I'm doing - run straight through all the lands to the main points of interest and enjoy those. 100% agree with you re: Forbidden West. One of the prettiest games I've seen but I just can't be bothered to play it. It had a cursed release date tbh lmao
I have 2300 hours on DBD. It's not clunky, you're just bad at it lol. Game is constantly being updated. Latency is an issue, but it kind of is in every multiplayer game. And sure, people sometimes ruin the experience, as they do in any game. This is something you especially see at lower MMR, which is likely where you were when trying it. Sometimes camping/tunnelling is a viable strategy esp when going against survive with friends teams. And yeah it has a gameplay loop. You could similarly say Rocket League is the same game every time, but the whole point of playing these is they're addictive drop-in-drop-out style games. As to the other stuff hmmm. A lot of those come off as soulless cash-grabs, the typical generic big budget productions with the same gameplay as always. Miles Morales comes to mind, same as Warzone, Gears, etc. Ghost is a beautiful game but it's essentially a better Assassin's Creed, Serious Sam 4 is just straight up dogshit, Crash 4 was okay, FF7 remake is simultaneously great and terrible AF (I think dunkey's review nailed it). Will of the Wisps is a masterpiece though, Hades is also a banger, Doom Eternal is basically the best FPS ever made, Demon's Souls remake proved that an amazingly beautiful game can't hide archaic gameplay mechanics and dogshit boss design. Idk we def have some crossover content but I think we might look for different things in games. |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | Hades unfortunately is lacking in content big time. Compare it to a game like Binding of Isaac and you'll realize just how content-bare it actually is. The actual gameplay loop is addictive as hell tho. And most roguelikes aren't filled with hundreds of hours of content. Dead Cells didn't have much to speak about at launch, but they've expanded greatly on it since (I really need to go back and see all the dlc they've added. I'd hoped they'd do something similar for Hades but it doesn't look like that's going to happen |
FreakMachine
08.24.22 | "I have 2300 hours on DBD. It's not clunky, you're just bad at it lol." - Easy response to somebody's opinion on a game. I'm not talking about it being difficult to get kills or anything, i'm talking about animation quality, and a general low budget feel to it. It's a really poor game, but that's my opinion.
"dogshit boss design" Completely revolutionary at the time, and for those of us who didn't hop on the FromSoft bandwagon with Dark Souls, it was exactly the remake we wanted. |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | When was the last time you played DBD? You mentioned the Stranger Things dlc which came out ages ago but they added huge texture updates and graphical overhauls of characters, animations, maps. |
FreakMachine
08.24.22 | "When was the last time you played DBD? You mentioned the Stranger Things dlc which came out ages ago but they added huge texture updates and graphical overhauls of characters, animations, maps. " The Silent Hill update was the last time I played. Which was after the 2021 so-called graphical overhaul (which really didn't add much to the game, and looked atrocious when blown up to 4k even downsampled from 8k) |
Mort.
08.24.22 | 'Mort: did you unlock the secret boss in Hades? I think that's the only thing I haven't done. And fully upgrade the hub. I've heard about Slay the Spire but I never looked into it. "i wish it was more of a deckbuilder combined with the roguelite card game thing goin on" You would probaly like Inscryption.'
hmm im guessing the secret boss is Charon and if so then yes. he is difficult but doable, he just does shit tons of damage in one hit but is very slow. i really want to play inscryption when it comes to ps4, looks quite interesting.
and i agree with what you said about hades. i completed maybe 50+ runs, unlocked nearly all of the mirror upgrades to the highest extent and upgraded quite a few of the weapon aspects. also nearly maxed out all the relationships and did hub cosmetic upgrades etc. but once i platinumed it i thought hmmm. theres really not much to stop me from just choosing the more powerful weapon aspects and using the trinkets to funnel myself into a strong run each time
slay the spire is quite different in that regard in the sense that you have fewer tools for making sure you start a run with a high chance of getting you want. i found that actually made it much more replayable (have completed hundreds of runs of slay the spire). i really highly reccomend it to anyone who wants a satisfying game to get to grips with and spend time making their decisions and planning out their route. much more tactical than something like hades but less immediately satisfying
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Gyromania
08.24.22 | Yeah it def doesn't look atrocious at all, I think we're playing different games. If you need hyper realistic graphics or w.e then idk that's just kind of shallow. The game doesn't even need to have graphics as good as they are to support that kind of gameplay |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | Mort: yeah Charon. I want to fight him. I gotta be honest tho the bosses in the game are prob among the weakest I've played in a roguelike game. And yes get inscryption. It's out now on PS4, I believe.
I'm gonna put Spire on my list of games to check out |
Mort.
08.24.22 | yeah hades issue is the bosses are very repetitive.
slay the spire on the other hand has a pool of 3 bosses for each act, so 9 bosses overall plus a possible 3 elites (mini bosses) in each act. this adds so much more variation across runs.
and it seems inscryption is out on ps4 on the 30th in the uk so i have a week to wait. good to know tho |
Demon of the Fall
08.24.22 | Finally started playing Bloodborne, was vaguely enjoying it and then stupid Sony distracted me by giving me free PS+ for a month (so I downloaded FF7 instead)
Was about to become one of y’all for a sec there, don’t know whether to be relieved or disappointed |
pjquinones747
08.24.22 | I've been back on Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion like the year is 2008 again and I honestly am having such a blast. |
Mort.
08.24.22 | fuck yeah man i love oblivion. god i wish theyd remaster it so i didnt have to play it on my shitty 360 |
Pikazilla
08.24.22 | sir 360 was the best console of its gen and is one of the best consoles oat |
protokute
08.24.22 | Is it worth giving Slay The Spire a try if I'm not big on deck games? |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | Mort: yeah that would definitely help with the longevity of it. Nothing compares to Isaac's boss roster but I'd gladly take 9 + 3 mini bosses over 4 bosses total. Idk why they decided to not make dlc for the game based on its high ratings and sales numbers. I feel like it's holding it back from being a true masterpiece. And yeah there really isn't a reason to not abuse the best shit in the game, I wish there was more build variety. I just looked into Slay the Spire and this for sure looks like my thing. I can't justify the $25 price point rn, so I might just find a download for PC. Doesn't seem too demanding for my windows 11 laptop to run
Demon I love you but stopping Bloodborne to play FF7 is a fail |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | Oblivion is truly terrible. Massive bloom, flat and boring landscapes, dungeons that all look the same, awful npc scripting and hilarious dialogue/voice acting (this is maybe a plus the more I think about it). I don't think much of Skyrim either, I just think Elder Scrolls in general is vastly overrated. Combat just doesn't feel fun in those games, it's very clunky and unrewarding, and quests are generic. Idk |
Mort.
08.24.22 | 'Is it worth giving Slay The Spire a try if I'm not big on deck games?'
depends on what you mean by deck games. if you cant be fucked with building and maintaing, crafting a deck then dont worry. you start each run of slay the spire with a basic deck of strikes (damage) and defends (blocks). you then build a deck across the run by choosing one of 3 after each fight (or none, which is also a good option. you can deffo lose by filling a deck with too many cards) . there are no microtransactions or anything like that. so its not like hearthstone or gwent or yu gi oh or something. (Its also solely singleplayer)
basically when you start the card pool is slightly restricted to help you get used to the game. then as you complete runs you unlock new cards that will show up in future runs. there are also 4 characters to choose from with different card pools. one of them is a free dlc character basically. doesnt take that long to unlock everything, and theres a stacking difficulty that goes from 1-20 for something to carry on working towards. completing difficulty 8 unlocks difficulty 9 etc.
also a true ending which unlocks a 4th act and a true final boss. very easy to achieve so its not like some weird esoteric hidden content |
Trebor.
08.24.22 | Oblivion is great if you play it as a comedy |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | I think if I had to rate consoles, my 3 favourites would be PS2, SNES, and PS5. But I also love the Switch, Dreamcast, and Xbox 360. Back when Xbox still had huge exclusives like Mass Effect 2 |
Trebor.
08.24.22 | PS3 has all the exclusives and plays the cross gen games the same. All 360 has is Halo and Gears which are pretty good but not PS3 level great |
Mort.
08.24.22 | 'Oblivion is truly terrible. Massive bloom, flat and boring landscapes, dungeons that all look the same, awful npc scripting and hilarious dialogue/voice acting (this is maybe a plus the more I think about it).'
lol yeah the awful npc scripting and voice acting is sort of a positive for me. gives that game a surreal charm. deffo has its issues. but for me its a nostalgia game, one of the first ever rpgs i ever played. am aware of its faults tho because when i last tried to replay it it felt like such a fucking chore
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Trebor.
08.24.22 | Only Mass Effect 1 was a timed exclusive and unfortunately the reason I bought a 360 over a ps3 |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | "Oblivion is great if you play it as a comedy"
haha I can get behind this. I was so immensely hyped for Oblivion back in the day, when I was subscribed to the official Xbox Magazine (tangent: I really miss official mags like this and Nintendo Power). That game was so fucking hyped up and it looked mindblowing but it ran like total shit and failed to deliver on every single promise it made |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | I thought Mass Effect 2 was a timed exclusive too. Huh, weird. The 360 def had some noteworthy exclusives at the time, the problem is they were all eventually brought over to Sony, barring some rly mediocre flagship titles like Gears and Halo, which both became shells of their former selves |
Trebor.
08.24.22 | I didn't even like Halo at the time so I was the saddest 360 owner lol
I played all of them through MCC on PC and had a good time with 3/ODST/Reach but man Halo 4 is fucking awful |
pjquinones747
08.24.22 | Yeah, as a fellow Soulsbourne player I get why many dislike ES games but they're not for big brain gamers. It is simple fun. Let people enjoy things. |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | Reach was fucking great, such an underrated entry in the franchise imo. 3 I didn't vibe with as much as 1 - it seemed to be riding the same highs as the first game but a lot of the sequences (particularly the final escape) came off as rehashed. Best fucking multiplayer ever though. And yeah 4 was embarrasingly shit. 5 was somehow even worse. That new one looks pretty cool (if only for the grappleshot which looks like a game-changer), but it also looks super homogeneous. Like the second level of OG Halo stretched out to the size of an entire world |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | "Yeah, as a fellow Soulsbourne player I get why many dislike ES games but they're not for big brain gamers. It is simple fun. Let people enjoy things."
I mean yeah enjoy them all you want, I'm not gonna stop you lol. They have some merits I won't deny it, the gameplay just always felt very off to me, even back when I realllllly wanted to love them. It wasn't until I played Witcher 3 that I got what I was hoping to get from Elder Scrolls titles. Morrowind was pretty good back in the day though |
pjquinones747
08.24.22 | My problem with Elden Ring is that it ruined most other RPGs for me. Unless it is literally an Elder Scrolls game whose mechanics differ greatly from Soulsborne games, Assassin's Creed, etc, I feel far too spoiled by Elden Ring's greatness to enjoy them. If God of War on PS4 can't measure up to the standard ER set then I'm not sure what will. Haven't tried another run of Ghost of Tsushima since beating Elden Ring though, maybe that one will hold up. Even Bloodborne doesn't feel the same after Elden Ring. Anyone else experiencing this? |
nightbringer
08.24.22 | I recently got a Xbox Series S after not doing any gaming (except some retro stuff) for about 15 years. Been playing Jedi Fallen Order and damn it's left my jaw on the floor. |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | I enjoyed God of War but holy fucking shit is that game ever overrated. I'm excited for the new one but there's 0 chance it dethrones ER for goty.
I think Bloodborne is definitely better than ER. I just wish we could get a 60fps port because my god that game runs like shit after playing ER at a stable 60fps. I think Bloodborne's combat is better than ER because of the heal-back mechanic and quick dash. ER has the jump, but in most scenarios it makes more sense to just roll since you get just as many if not more iframes when rolling. Sekiro has them all beat though |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | "I recently got a Xbox Series S after not doing any gaming (except some retro stuff) for about 15 years. Been playing Jedi Fallen Order and damn it's left my jaw on the floor."
Oh man... Just wait until you play a really good game, it'll blow your mind! |
pjquinones747
08.24.22 | "Sekiro has them all beat though"
I'm too bad at video games to enjoy Sekiro :/ |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | Keep practicing! It'll be worth it, I promise |
FreakMachine
08.24.22 | "I enjoyed God of War but holy fucking shit is that game ever overrated. I'm excited for the new one but there's 0 chance it dethrones ER for goty." I agree with this, god Of War was hugely overrated, nowhere near as good as the older ones.
That being said, I actually find Elden Ring a little overrated purely because its horribly balanced and theres too much repetition. FromSoft did a good job of fooling low intellect people that their content is unique and handcrafted, when in reality its literally another Valhalla style map with nothing of interest in between actual important stuff. Loads of mini dungeon bosses are copy pasted, even main story bosses get repeated. its fucking lazy. The games first 30 hours are a 10/10 and some of the best ever, but the following 200 weren't. |
FreakMachine
08.24.22 | "I think if I had to rate consoles, my 3 favourites would be PS2, SNES, and PS5. But I also love the Switch, Dreamcast, and Xbox 360. Back when Xbox still had huge exclusives like Mass Effect 2" Fuck consoles. |
Trebor.
08.24.22 | It's weird that people are like "oh Elden Ring ruined Ass Creed for me" like those do a random task to delete a marker off a map games have always sucked and the best version of those kind of games like Horizon Zero Dawn and Ghost of Tsushima are like hard 7/10s |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | You PC purists make me sick! Although I get it tbh.
I can absolutely see someone saying ER is overrated. Any game with this degree of hype is going to be hard if not downright impossible to live up to. And especially if you're partial to From's dungeon-based levels, which I most certainly am. I still think they pulled off the open world setting very well but open-world games aren't my bag in general. They always feel so padded out and empty, especially titles like Assassin's Creed and Far Cry. I also agree that it seems like the further North you get, the less there is to actually do. Atlas Plateau had some cool points of interest but overall it feels pretty devoid of content, and Mountains of the Giants was especially boring to traverse. That whole area is totally dull and I'm really disappointed with it. I think Atlas is saved ultimately by Mt Gelmir, which is one of the best Fromsoft levels (tying into Volcano Manor) and Leyndell bookending it. I didn't get the same level of enjoyment out of exploration that I did in Limgrave and The Weeping Peninsula though, but on repeated plays there's really no reason to do anything in Limgrave. |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | Yeah Ghost of Tsushima does a lot of things right and I inflate my rating for it because I love the time period and artstyle of the game, but at the end of the day it is basically Assassin's Creed. 8/10 |
Pikazilla
08.24.22 | Skyrim sucked majorly, yeah.
Elden ring gets better actually, once you clear the dungeons in the first story boss area, which shouldn't take you more than 5 or so hours if you know what you're doing. I haven't beat the game yet, mind, got three great runes so far (beat the weirdass sorceress with her amber egg and the scarlet rot berserker). I wonder at what point it gets more difficult because so far it's a cake walk in comparison to DS III. |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | For anyone who likes Ghost of Tsushima, check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zei92YgsWUY
I made a screensaver as my first ever media project using Adobe Effects |
Pikazilla
08.24.22 | also good going, fromsoftware
just when I thought noob catering has gone far enough, you give players a fucking mimic summon |
pjquinones747
08.24.22 | All the Horizon games are good for is looking cool. The user interface is horribly overcrowded and the dialogue equally as painful as any Assassin's Creed game. Ghost of Tsushima shits on the Horizon games. |
Trebor.
08.24.22 | I hate that people even consider checklist games RPGs, it's like a major insult to actual RPGs |
FreakMachine
08.24.22 | "You PC purists make me sick! Although I get it tbh. " I was only joking anyway, I own a ps5, just hardly play it.
But yeah I love Elden Ring completely, but its just got issues. |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | Yeah Ghost is prob the best game in its genre (like it's very specific style of open world games. I wouldn't consider ER similar to it) |
Demon of the Fall
08.24.22 | ‘Demon I love you but stopping Bloodborne to play FF7 is a fail‘
Am I exempt from criticism if this decision was purely from a financial perspective? I own a copy of Bloodborne whereas FF7 is only temporarily free to play. |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | Okay, I've taken a few minutes to deeply contemplate, and... No, I'm sorry you aren't exempt. |
Pikazilla
08.24.22 | Bloodborne isn't that good tbh |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | You aren't that good at BB tbh |
Pikazilla
08.24.22 | It's easily the worst soulslike fromsoftware game to date though |
protokute
08.24.22 | if you guys haven't played The Forgotten City yet, I'd definitely recommend you guys to check it. Truly one of the most refreshing and immersive games I played in a big while |
protokute
08.24.22 | And gosh, what I'd do to play Bloodporne, just release the goddamn thing to PC already |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | BB has the best combat. The speed of it, the heal mechanic, the satisfying parry system, and beyond all that it has the most artistically accurate depiction of lovecraftian monsters and some of the best boss fights, some of the best designed levels like: central yharnam, cathedral ward, fishing hamlet, research centre, hunters nightmare, nightmare of mensis, forsaken castle cainhurst. Game curbstomps DS2 and is better than DS1 by a considerable margin imo |
trilo
08.24.22 | DS2 is the worst souls game, any other opinion belongs in the trash |
Pikazilla
08.24.22 | nah, can't agree
it has the worst designed world of them all |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | ^ this man knows (trilo) |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | How in tf is it a worse designed world than 2 and 3? I love some of the levels from 3 but it is absolutely not better designed, the whole thing is fragmented, cathedral ward connects to so many areas in a meaningful way |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | proto: Forgotten City is on my list, a friend rec'd it to me recently. |
trilo
08.24.22 | if ur gonna make a case for DS2 not being the worst souls game u gotta use something other than world design cuz half the shit in DS2 makes no sense at all |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | "if ur gonna make a case for DS2 not being the worst souls game u gotta use something other than world design cuz half the shit in DS2 makes no sense at all"
Not only that, but it's really boring to traverse. There are a few solid levels (iron keep, frozen eleum loyce, drangleic castle, forest of the giants) but many many many more shit levels. the gutter is about as dull as humanly possible, the black gultch is aids, shrine of amana is mega aids, aldia's keep is uninspired and same with huntsmans copse, harvest valley, brightstone cove, shaded woods, lost bastille, undead crypt, etc. And iron passage, cave of the dead, and frozen outskirts are the worst areas they've ever made |
Pikazilla
08.24.22 | Ds2 is the only one i haven't played lol
BB's gimmicky 'unique' weapons are fucking lame and so is the whole hunter of the night shtick. There isn't a good character build variety in comparison to DS3 and the chalice system is fucking dumb. And last but not least, the storytelling aspect of BB is so barebones and unengaging, it does nothing to motivate the player to complete it. If you want a 'run fast, slash fast' game, go play DMC or something. |
FreakMachine
08.24.22 | DS2 isn't as bad as some people make it out to be, and is actually a really solid game, but its clearly the worst souls game by a mile |
Demon of the Fall
08.24.22 | ‘Okay, I've taken a few minutes to deeply contemplate, and... No, I'm sorry you aren't exempt.‘
I might file an appeal… or just actually play BB idk. I reckon it might actually be fun, especially once I’ve learnt a few fundamentals. |
Pikazilla
08.24.22 | play sekiro, it's better than bb in every way imaginable |
FreakMachine
08.24.22 | "play sekiro, it's better than bb in every way imaginable" Sekiro is good but its nowhere near as good as Bloodborne |
Pikazilla
08.24.22 | or if you want a true basic bitch experience, play elden ring as a mage |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | "BB's gimmicky 'unique' weapons are fucking lame"
There's more going on mechanically in a handful of BB's unique weapons than the entirety of DS3's weapon roster. All the souls games are like "Here's 25 different great swords that actually all function the exact same" and casual players are like "THERE ARE SO MANY GOOD WEAPONS" |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | I mean yeah Sekiro > Bloodborne for sure, but still |
Pikazilla
08.24.22 | Okay, glad we agree on Sekiro at least. |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | BB does in fact have lore, believe it or not. I know a lot of people have been spreading around the myth that there is no story, but a group of gamers got together and looked into all the item descriptions and clever world building and found out there there is in fact some shit going on, man. Also the chalice dungeons are optional. Yes, they blow. Who cares |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | But yeah we'll always have Sekiro < 3 |
Pikazilla
08.24.22 | I'm not saying it doesn't but DS lore is so much more expansive and immersive. |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | DS3 lore is better than BB I will for sure agree with that.
Also I shit on it earlier (idk if it was to you) but demon's souls really does have some of the best-designed levels. a few utterly shit ones, but the ones that hit are damn good. tower of latria in particular, but most of boletarian castle is incredible and the remake really enhances them |
Demon of the Fall
08.24.22 | definitely not playing Sekiro, not until I’ve completed a Souls game anyway |
Mort.
08.24.22 | i agree with gyro i think
playing sekiro now and its clicked again so managed to smash lady butterfly and genchiro or whatever his name is last night. god i love this game |
Pikazilla
08.24.22 | sekiro is quite a bit easier than souls if you get the hang of its combat |
Mort.
08.24.22 |
also sick of seeing the lazy 'elden ring has bad dungeons and copy and paste mini bosses' like yeah but honestly i feel like that barely detracts when there are so many brilliant main bosses that blow shit tons of other fromsoft bosses out of the water
the game doesnt suddenly suck just because you decided to do every single mini dungeon and didnt enjoy fighting cat gargoyles like jesus christ it doesnt make up anywhere near as much of the game as people act |
Pikazilla
08.24.22 | elden ring's dungeons are not copy paste though
once you get past godfuck, shit gets real interesting |
Pikazilla
08.24.22 | also, you don't have to do ALL of the dungeons, just do the ones that give you the items you need |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | I have to agree that Sekiro is the easier game once you master the combat. It takes a fucking while to get there, but once you do you realize that every single thing can be countered and you can shred bosses once you learn how to fight them. Being aggressive af is key to dictate the flow of combat.
Genichiro is awesome but there are bosses even better |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | The final boss of Sekiro tells you "Hesitation is defeat" when he kills you, and it's funny because he's not just talking shit, that statement holds a lot of weight. Kind of a neat little detail |
Demon of the Fall
08.24.22 | Sekiro just doesn’t really appeal to me in the same way, wasn’t a case of difficulty (not vs Souls anyway). Maybe one day, who knows? Probably not though in all honesty.
Hoping to eventually dive into Elden Ring and be vaguely ready for it. The fact it’s open world really appeals to me. I just may as well try and tackle BB first seeing as I had an untouched copy lying around. |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | Once I started to be able to play Sekiro on this level: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=407DnxcyxBk the gameplay became very addictive |
mynameischan
08.24.22 | I just played Stanley Parable over the last few weekends. One of the funniest, cleverest gaming experiences ever |
Mort.
08.24.22 | yeah that final boss quote is literally telling you how to play the game. stop blocking and waiting and instead keep on hitting until you need to deflect, and then hit again |
Gyromania
08.24.22 | I'm pretty excited to play Stanley Parable, glad to hear it's solid. |
protokute
08.24.22 | So I downloaded Slay The Spire, and even though I'm not that big on cards and deck building games, I found it pretty fun, died on the second boss in the first run. Holding back now and will wait for a promotion on steam |
PotsyTater
08.24.22 | “BB's gimmicky 'unique' weapons are fucking lame"
God forbid they add a single mechanic to the suuuper deep fromsoft combat formula of kiting and butt poking /s |
Anthracks
08.24.22 | starting azure striker gunvolt 3 today. love these games |
ConcubinaryCode
08.24.22 | Hey Gyro, what's your dbd tag? I've been hating playing solo queue lately. |
Demon of the Fall
08.26.22 | Re Bloodborne: right I actually killed some things and was pleased with myself but the game hasn’t told me how to spend these blood echoes
apparently you can’t till you activate the doll, what? Guessing this becomes apparent whenever it happens, although I read it might involve a boss. Fuuuuck! Haha
I was gonna backtrack and spend thinking I’m some kind of tactical genius, but nah can’t do that yet
Getting the hang of combat though, sort of… I think |
PotsyTater
08.26.22 | Demon you can’t spend them until you gain your first insight, which will occur once you get obliterated by the first boss |
trilo
08.26.22 | @protokute: yea dude slay the spire rules. haven't found a deckbuilder roguething-y quite on the same level just yet. not sure what the devs are up to but def gonna try anything they release in the future |
PotsyTater
08.26.22 | I liked slay the spire but I would have LOVED it if there was more progression and customization. Like if you actually unlocked cards each play through and got to build a deck to run through with as you go rather than just picking from a few set decks and starting over from scratch each run. I need the sense that I’m accomplishing something and progressing to not get bored. |
IsisScript80
08.26.22 | I've got a real hankering to get 'Rollerdrome', but am hoping to the devs/whoever decide to give it a physical release, as I much prefer that to digital.
I'll hold out for a bit... |
Gyromania
08.26.22 | Concubinary: BOoTeS_-VOid - and yeah solo queue is fucking rough. I almost always play solo but I'd be down to swf |
Gyromania
08.26.22 | Physical releases aren't that important to me anymore. I mean think about it: most games are just a shitty plastic container with 0 instruction booklet and the game disc/cartridge. Long gone are the days of well packaged boxes with detailed instruction manuals. The only physical releases worth getting outside of collector's editions are releases by companies like Limited Run, who price gouge tf out of people. The digital version is like $13 off the total price until the end of this month, I'd def go with that tbh |
IsisScript80
08.26.22 | ^ I get that... I just hold on to the vague notion that having something tangible and in my hand means something slightly more in an age where digital storefronts are pulling games and deleting libraries on a whim (see something like the sickening thing that happened to 'Jump Force' a year-or-so back). It just doesn't really give me a fully secure sense that I "own" something, despite paying for it.
Ultimately, it's probably just psychological for me really, but I do occasionally dig things like box art too. Old school collector mentality at play as well. |
Gyromania
08.26.22 | That's true I do worry about shit like that. Or if you 'breach' Sony or Microsoft's policies and they ban your account, you could be losing thousands in intellectual property. I want to get a massive like 4 tb ssd put inside and download every game I have to the console just in case anything ever happens to their servers. I guess I'd still potentially be screwed due to license authentication tho lol |
Gyromania
08.26.22 | "It's probably just psychological for me really, but I do occasionally dig things like box art too. Old school collector mentality at play too."
I am a collector at heart too (I got the Metroid Dread collector's edition and man oh man was it ever bomb), I just find myself usually disappointed with standard releases. Also I hate myself so much for not holding on to all my SNES and N64 games and boxes, I'd be sitting on a small fortune today |
IsisScript80
08.26.22 | ^ Yeah, the above is basically it in a nutshell, Gyro. |
PotsyTater
08.26.22 | Meanwhile I’m considering getting a discless ps5 because I’ve been too lazy to drive to the GameStop 5 minutes down the road to get physicals since the pandemic started |
Gyromania
08.26.22 | The one thing I love about digital is it's just always there, ready to launch within seconds. Changing out discs is tedious
I can't believe they're raising the cost of the PS5. It's already expensive af and still in limited supply |
PotsyTater
08.26.22 | Yeah big whack |
ConcubinaryCode
08.26.22 | Physical editions are made more pointless now but you can still resell them and if they're the same price as digital you might as well get it just for that. Plus the games install faster. I did just rebuy the R&C trilogy for ps2 because the ps3 ports were kinda not perfect (mostly 3).
Digital is worth it when you can get games for dirt cheap though. And ps+ still hands out decent games.
I also sent you a friend request Gyro if that's you on ps4
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PotsyTater
08.26.22 | Yeah I know the resell value is really the only reason I clung to physicals for so long but then I just got lazy lol |
ConcubinaryCode
08.26.22 | And def hold off on getting a ps5. Almost 3 years into this gen of consoles and they've only gotten more expensive like wtf. I saw a discless version at Walmart but you might as well get the series s and a year of game pass for the same price at that point. I think this year is gonna be when they start sunsetting the ps4 and xbone games too which kinda sucks but what are you gonna do? |
PotsyTater
08.26.22 | As a pretty casual gamer I usually stay a gen behind so I can just grab up a used console and the entire essential discog all for cheap. Keeps me busy for years. This is the first time since I was a kid I’ve had a current gen console (switch) so I’m not in a huge rush to replace my ps4. Have so many games on there I haven’t even touched yet. And I also can’t be bothered to get one until it’s easily accessible to do so. So yeah, I’m in no rush. I don’t really care too much for Xbox tho, I understand the game pass is much superior but idk I just prefer PlayStation |
Trebor.
08.27.22 | I stay a console behind because money |
ConcubinaryCode
08.27.22 | We definitely have no shortage of games nowadays that's for sure. I still got some ps3 games I got to beat. Remember Me, PoP trilogy, killzone trilogy |
PotsyTater
08.27.22 | It’s honestly a bit overwhelming sometimes. There’s so much I want to play that it makes me want to play nothing at all (or dark souls 1 for the 20th time) |
ConcubinaryCode
08.27.22 | Choice paralysis is such a bitch in life in general. I consider it a win if I end up doing anything sometimes. |
PotsyTater
08.27.22 | True that |
Mort.
08.27.22 | finished my shura run of sekiro. doing the purification ending on ng+ now. getting to the point where i can smash most bosses, trying to branch out to some of the other prosthetic weapons rather than just shuriken and axe endlessly lol |
FreakMachine
08.27.22 | "finished my shura run of sekiro. doing the purification ending on ng+ now. getting to the point where i can smash most bosses, trying to branch out to some of the other prosthetic weapons rather than just shuriken and axe endlessly lol"
When Sekiro really "clicks" you can essentially run through the whole game in like 3 hours, hitless |
PotsyTater
08.27.22 | PLAYIN this cult of the lamb shit |
IsisScript80
08.27.22 | "Choice paralysis is such a bitch in life in general. I consider it a win if I end up doing anything sometimes."
Yeah, add to that... there's so many epic (in scope... not circa 2010 "epic" for anything vaguely good) games that require 150-300 hours of play time each, juxtaposed with the fact that on average, adults who are adult-ing generally don't have the time allocation for it.
This is a paradox from when a lot of us (me included) were kids and had a greater deal of time, and those were very much "pick up and play" games.
And yeah, my pile of shame PS4 backlog is laughably swollen. I fucking love games as a medium, and probably always will. |
PotsyTater
08.27.22 | I’ve had to make an effort to suppress my completionism and abandon games when i start to feel even slightly fatigued with them so that I can actually get through them all. The choice paralysis thing is even worse when you feel obligated to finish each game. It’s easier when I convince myself I’m just trying the game on for size and going from there lol. |
ConcubinaryCode
08.27.22 | I kinda hate when people lambasted linear games so much like ten years ago because game developers took that complaint and course corrected above and beyond and made games just so overtly vast and time extensive not only to develop but to play as well. Open worlds used to be such a high benchmark for games but they're a dime a dozen now. Like isis said it's offputting when you have such limited time. It's a big reason I haven't delved into games like Witcher 3 or ghost of tsushima even though they're supposed to be better examples of the open world format. |
PotsyTater
08.27.22 | Ghost of Tsushima is a great open world game because its more sparse and atmospheric like breath of the wild. Witcher 3 is absolutely clutter fucked with mindless tasks. |
Gyromania
08.27.22 | Ghost of Tsushima is a game I'd for sure recommend, but the side quests are about as generic as they come in open world games. The same (mostly) can't be said of Witcher 3. I really do like Ghost, but it's essentially a much better Assassin's Creed. Maybe that's a bit reductive because it features some truly great innovations (the nav point system is among the best I've seen in an open world game), but I think it suffers the same sort of fatigue as other games in its genre.
I think linear gaming tends to work better, or pseudo-open world gaming. Most open worlds are devoid of interesting content and pad out time dramatically.
""Choice paralysis is such a bitch in life in general. I consider it a win if I end up doing anything sometimes."
So true. I've actually found myself going back to a lot of the classics. Been replaying Silent Hill 2, 3, and 4, Twisted Metal Black, Burnout 3, etc |
Sharenge
08.27.22 | that's just called "playing PS2" |
Gyromania
08.27.22 | Mort: Nice! Keep at it! Try to take on the boss gauntlets, they're a lot of fun. And what Freak says is true, the combat will eventually click in a way that the game feels just incredible and you can devour bosses. I can take down Owl Father in less than 2 mins without getting hit... Most times lol |
Gyromania
08.27.22 | "that's just called "playing PS2""
emulation tho! But yeah. I mean there are so many choices when it comes to gaming, including revisiting classics |
PotsyTater
08.27.22 | gonna contradict gyros sentiments about Witcher v ghost by saying that I’d rather parkour up a beautiful mountain, write haikus by a peaceful creek, and chase a fox through the forest a million times over than slog through witchers endless clutter of monster and treasure icons littered across the map. Sure, there might also be more detailed narrative quests on top of the legions of bullshit busywork, but if you think Gerald is a goofy asshat who lives in a hot topic edge-fest fantasy world, the story telling only gets you so far |
PotsyTater
08.27.22 | I played assassins creed origins recently and it was a million percent closer to Witcher 3 than it was to ghost of Tsushima aside from stealth mechanics. It was also terrible. |
Gyromania
08.27.22 | The Haiku feature is cool but rly shallow but I enjoy the other things you mentioned. I mean the fox thing meh; I found myself more often than not just stumbling onto what the fox would lead you to without needing the fox. There is for sure busywork in Witcher 3 but you don't have to do every single task on the mini-map. I consider most of it extra content for die-hards (like I sure as hell didn't hunt down every single piece of armour). The story is miles better than Ghost imo. I mean just the first dlc alone, Heart of Stone has a better story than the entirety of Ghost, but it depends on the person's preferences. One is high fantasy, the other is more of a period piece. I liken AC to Ghost because it has that same loop of: go reveal more of the map & clear outposts so friendly npcs can reclaim it |
PotsyTater
08.27.22 | Witcher 3 sucks |
Sharenge
08.27.22 | option paralysis is a bitch[10]
a lot of it is just part of the process of aging (as a person) I think |
Gyromania
08.27.22 | Nah, shit's more inventive and interesting than 95% of triple A games. If you were talking about Cyberpunk I'd be inclined to agree |
protokute
08.27.22 | More and more I think about how Sekiro is the closest thing From Software got to a masterpiece.
The combat is challenging, but also extremely rewarding, fluid and fun once you get the hang of it, in a way that the Souls series never felt for me (And I do like Souls games btw). But more than that, I think it's such an immersive experience, and the story and character progression is awesome (coming back to places you already visited, and facing new challenges but also seeing yourself stronger, never stops bringing joy in a game for me), places and areas are memorable and beautiful, also in a way that the Souls series never was, excluding some particular areas, and yeah Elden Ring world can be vast, but honestly it just isn't that interesting after a while on it.
Been wanting to replay Sekiro just to revisit some of the areas.
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protokute
08.27.22 | As for Witcher 3, yes it is stuffed full of things to do, sometimes it's the same old enemies with not so interesting loot, but most of the side quests and hidden treasures have very interesting loot or lore. And I guess the world, main story and side quests more than make up for some of the uninteresting stuff in it. |
PotsyTater
08.27.22 | Witcher 3 is in the top 5 worst open world games I’ve ever played |
Gyromania
08.27.22 | I mean I could just pick 5 assassin's creed games or 5 far cry games and they'd be infinitely worse lol. What's in your top 5 worst? If you say Witcher is worse than Skyrim I'm gonna throw my laptop!
protokute: agree hard about it being their masterpiece. I just did two tier lists ranking every fromsoft boss and every level and Sekiro ranked 1st overall in both depts. I can pick areas out every Souls game, as well as bosses that blow dick. Even Bloodborne which I consider their second best has some ass bosses and levels. Sekiro's absolute worst is prob either the abandoned dungeon or depths, and they're not even that bad to begin with. I'm actually struggling to think of a boss that's outright garbage or even a letdown. Maybe folding screen monkeys? |
PotsyTater
08.27.22 | Lmao I was just trolling but I actually do prefer Skyrim to Witcher 3 |
ConcubinaryCode
08.27.22 | GoT is actually a beautiful world to travel in from what I played. I don't just mean graphically either but the way they actually tie game mechanics to be less intrusive than slapping ui on the TV like having the waypoint marker just being flowing wind and the haiku bits where you look around the world to make get inspiration is cooler than just going to a viewpoint and pressing a button to 360. The combat I felt was a little weak so I actually like stealthily in this game which I think is the point anyway. Idk why there's no lock on in combat, maybe they wanted to give it a cinematic feel but it just makes it kinda obtuse and unfun instead.
I do kinda agree with it just being a better Ass Creed tho. If they did this game instead of infamous 1 back in the day (they probably couldn't given tech of course) they would've beaten ubisoft before they even had a chance. Ubi is probably one of the worst game companies nowadays just for how much they homogenized the game industry with their tepid releases and that's not even getting into their work culture bs. |
PotsyTater
08.27.22 | ^^^exactly
Except I liked the combat a lot too |
Mort.
08.27.22 | agree with pots on the witcher
skyrim is more enjoyable for me because i feel like i can actually roleplay (even if the rpg elements in the elder scrolls have been slowly stripped back) due to not having a character imposed on me. in the witcher i have to play as geralt. i fucking hate geralt
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Gyromania
08.27.22 | "Lmao I was just trolling but I actually do prefer Skyrim to Witcher 3"
Happiness followed by immediate sadness =[
I actually didn't have a very hard time with the combat, iirc it had a sort of soft lock-on that worked most of the time for me. The game's biggest problem is fatigue though. I was fucking blown away by the first 20 or so hours but as I played and kept doing super repetitive tasks I started losing interest. I'm really excited to return to it tho since it's been a while and I only got close to the end of the second island (I'm assuming there's a lot more to play? Plus that dlc). |
Gyromania
08.27.22 | Geralt is a great character. Incredible voice acting. He's stoic and mostly devoid of humour but that's kind of the point of their mutations. Skyrim is just.. so overrated I think. It's not a bad game I just think that combat feels like shit. Like in every elder scrolls game it never feels like I'm actually hitting enemies. The overall open world feels totally dead to me and not much seems worth exploring. I do enjoy the ambience and artistic style of their games but they haven't made anything yet that's really blown me away. Hoping for.big changes with their upcoming game |
PotsyTater
08.27.22 | Lol dude Geralt is a terrible character and I’m actually not trolling at all, he’s basically Xavier renegade angel, like he’s a complete fucking derp |
ConcubinaryCode
08.27.22 | Gyro I sent a friend request, pls respond 🙏 |
ConcubinaryCode
08.27.22 | Xavier renegade angel is actually cool pots. |
PotsyTater
08.27.22 | Well yeah Xavier is cool Geralt is like the person that Xavier is a parody of is what I mean Lmao |
ConcubinaryCode
08.27.22 | Geralt wishes he was half as cool as Xavier. And I bet a single episode has better dialogue than anything in that game. |
Scheumke
08.27.22 | Re disc vs discless ps5, the single most important reason to get a disc version was price of games. I loathe being tied to the over-expensive ps store. I get sealed games from thd dutch ebay at 20 to 30 euros cheaper than the digital store. The extra price I payed for the disc version has been saves multiple times over at this point. |
PotsyTater
08.27.22 | “ Geralt wishes he was half as cool as Xavier. And I bet a single episode has better dialogue than anything in that game.”
Agreed |
Gyromania
08.27.22 | What's so wrong with Geralt? Is it that he's so serious all the time?
Conc I'll accept soon I won't been on my ps5 recently |
ConcubinaryCode
08.27.22 | Geralts biggest problem is he can't compete with Xavier tbh. |
Gyromania
08.28.22 | I don't get the reference.
Okay I just looked it up and pre sure you guys are trolling lmao |
ConcubinaryCode
08.28.22 | No, the shows unironically great and probably better than Witcher. |
Itwasthatwas
08.28.22 | Serious question, how do the guys that have been here long enough to not be teenagers find time to game?
Don’t get me wrong, there’s some games I’d like to play, but I haven’t found the time in years between work/wife/kids/gym/music/self care/social obligations/extended family obligations
At minimum you all seem to listen to so much music that the free time budget can’t be that big |
ConcubinaryCode
08.28.22 | By not doing all that stuff. |
Gyromania
08.28.22 | ^ pretty much
Also damn Conc you only played Disco Elysium for 1 hour a year ago and bailed? For shame brother |
ConcubinaryCode
08.28.22 | Yeah I made a not serious build at the start thinking I'd be cute but the game doesn't fuck around like that and I fucked myself over eventually and never restarted. |
Mort.
08.28.22 | god i love disco elysium. brilliant game
finished it a couple of times now, need to finish a fascist run and make kim hate me without dying lol |
ConcubinaryCode
08.28.22 | How long is it anyway? Did you use any guides or anything? |
PotsyTater
08.28.22 | That was a really dumb question from user itwasthatwas |
Mort.
08.28.22 | lol yea the answer is a pretty basic 'different people lead different lives' the
and disco elysium is uhhh decently long i guess? hard to quanity exactly cos it depends on how quick you read, how much side shit you want to do, what sort of detective you want to be etc. my very very rough estimate would be that my playthroughs are somewhere around the 15-20 hour mark |
ConcubinaryCode
08.28.22 | That's really not too bad tbh. I might start again cuz the dialogue was pretty fun. |
Mort.
08.28.22 | I've just looked it up, apparently the rough estimate for the main story is 22 hours . 30+ for most people if you do some side quests
I fully recommend it as a game to play slowly, soak up the detail, listen to the voice acting. The world is interesting and has its own history, has some very strange elements that aren't apparent at first |
Mort.
08.28.22 | For me it's a 10/10. Has a lot of replayability and some great writing . Also manages to criticise the writers own ideologies very well and |
PotsyTater
08.28.22 | I like the concept of disco Elysium but i don’t have the attention span for games with that much reading tbh |
Itwasthatwas
08.28.22 | "That was a really dumb question from user itwasthatwas"
i was drunkposting last night but most games seem to require a large time investment, its not like a hey let me just pick this up for 15 minutes kind of thing. can't imagine having the free time required |
PotsyTater
08.28.22 | Your level of investment in games is entirely up to you. The only people that ask questions like that are trying to be low-key condescending. Surely you have the brains to understand that people allocate their time differently, and that your lifestyle isn’t indicative of the average persons. In which case asking the question seems transparently meant to be condescending. Which is a bit ironic because where you take pride in changing diapers I take pity. I balance my quality of life between work, my relationship, my me time, and my other obligations just fine thanks. Sorry that you can’t. |
Itwasthatwas
08.28.22 | lol ok then
if someone asked me the same question about finding time to learn an instrument I would suggest that they build up in small 15-20 minute blocks over time until they reached a skill level where even that short amount of daily play time could still be satisfying
I’m not too aware of what’s out there in games right now. The ones I’m familiar with, and used to enjoy a lot when I was younger were games like baldurs gate but I remember those would require tons of hours to finish. If there’s good games out there that can be picked up and enjoyed with small blocks of time investment I would be interested but if answer is that you have to just choose to carve out tons of time then I can’t really afford to get into it |
ConcubinaryCode
08.28.22 | There are tons of games that you can just pick up and play to chip away over time or just play for short bits of time. Lots of Nintendo games are designed around that type of thing. Tons of mulitplayer games are the same
Or similar to learning an instrument you can just play for half an hour. I can't promise it'll be fulfilling every time but I imagine learning an instrument from scratch would feel the same way. As long as it's not a full fledged rpg epic most games aren't that huge a time investment. I just played grim fandango and got the Plat for it in an afternoon. |
trilo
08.28.22 | check out roguelike/roguelite genre. they're the perfect pick up n play games because the runs are self-contained 30-45 min bursts based around procedurally generated levels w/ permadeath and (usually) an overarching progression/unlock system to keep things interesting. they work nicely for a busy schedule |
Itwasthatwas
08.29.22 | what kind of game is grim fandango?
any suggestion for roguelikes trilo? I seem to recall hearing those mentioned as a genre by guys who liked the same games as me growing up |
trilo
08.29.22 | @Itwasthatwas The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth is IMO the quintessential modern roguelike - probably the biggest contributor to the popularity of the genre over the past decade. very inspired by early top-down Zelda games. my fav aspect of it is the item synergies. they spent a lot of time fleshing that system out and stuff gets wacky n wild with certain combinations. haven't found another roguelike with the same depth of synergy. with the expansions the game has a staggering amount of content but there is kind of a prevailing opinion in the community that it got bloated as a result.
FTL: Faster Than Light is also a classic. it's a top down space sim roguelike but the sim aspects are really simplified. rather than dogfighting space ship combat it's more point n click where you target rooms in an enemy ship. for example you attack their shield room to disable energy shields, or blow up their oxygen room to starve the enemy crew. meanwhile you are in charge of keeping your crew alive & ship repaired. in between combat you jump to different star systems where you deal w/ random events that require you to make decisions that can really affect your run. things tend to get out of hand quick. it's a ton of fun but it can be a bit overwhelming constantly putting out fires (figuratively & literally) especially as you get further in the run and deal with more difficult enemies.
Slay the Spire is a deckbuilder dungeon crawler. you build a deck of cards to face off against monsters while progressing through a dungeon. it's a masterfully designed game. like pots said earlier in the thread it does lack a meta progression system (beyond unlocking new cards/items) which means you don't get passively stronger. kinda lacks a hook from that perspective. however if you like card games this is the best deckbuilder roguelike out there. |
trilo
08.29.22 | more recs:
Hades is probably the most polished roguelike i've ever played. it's a top down dungeon crawler/beat em up kinda game where you play as the son of Hades and try to escape the underworld. amazing visuals, dialogue and voice acting with incredibly crisp n punchy combat. prob the most outwardly fun roguelike i've recommended so far just due to the combat.
there's Vampire Survivors which came out earlier this year and is kinda the father of this new subgenre of "horde mode" roguelikes that have been picking up steam. basically, survive for x minutes against an onslaught of enemies that get progressively harder. it's kinda interesting bc the combat is automated. so rather than aim & press a button to attack your attacks just happen whether it's an aura you picked up, something that triggers off a timer etc. so the gameplay really comes down to avoiding enemies, picking up experience and selecting power ups. it's almost meditative in its simplicity. super addicting too - like pure dopamine dripfeed. check 20 Minutes Till Dawn if you like the idea but hate passive combat. it's the same type of game but you actually shoot, dodge etc. arguably a superior game but i kinda dig the passivity of Vampire Survivors. both are $3 so great bang for your buck entertainment.
lastly a few rapidfire recs i didn't get to write up about: Risk of Rain 2 (must play), Spelunky 2 (must play), Dead Cells, Darkest Dungeon |
protokute
08.29.22 | Has anyone played Project Zomboid? The game looks interesting
On roguelite recs: Downwell and Nuclear Throne are also pretty good |
PotsyTater
08.29.22 | I’m kinda already getting a bit bored of hades ngl
Cult of the lamb slaps tho |
trilo
08.29.22 | Hades is really fun but unlike other roguelikes i didn't find myself going back to it much after i got the first ending. i guess there's like a true final ending later? idk but i cba to go through the game more to get to it. i feel satisfied with my time in it
wasn't a fan of Cult of the Lamb sadly. the roguelike part of the game felt really shallow. the runs are too short and the upgrades are kinda boring so i wasn't getting the power progression i was looking for. amazing presentation tho. prob the best looking indie title this year. |
PotsyTater
08.29.22 | I love it |
protokute
08.29.22 | yea that's the problem with Hades, it's an absolutely amazing experience until your first two wins and then you kinda loses some of the motivation to keep doing it if you're not the achievement completionist kind of guy, which i'm not. |
ConcubinaryCode
08.29.22 | Can confirm downwell goes down well ha. You can beat the game in like 20 minutes but you obviously won't until you learn the levels and know what to expect. You have guns on your feet and shoot stuff as you fall down a well. A super simple and fun game |
PotsyTater
08.30.22 | I didn’t even get to my first win in hades |
Itwasthatwas
08.30.22 | thanks for the recs trilo/proto
I'll google some of these and figure out what to check out first |
Gyromania
08.31.22 | Downwell looks really fun, I'd love to play it. Cult of Lamb too. Glad to hear it's good Potsy, I'm hoping to pick it up soon |
PotsyTater
08.31.22 | What someone else said about the dungeon crawling being simplistic is true, although in my opinion it works in its favour. Fun little bite sized runs with lots of atmosphere and great music. Everything going on with your cult makes you not want to spend too much time in there anyway so I find it to be a nice little loop. |
Mort.
08.31.22 | got the platinim trophy on sekiro. was fun. once it clicked bosses that i was previously struggling with became pretty easy. ishin is a fucking loser who is deceptively easy once you stop panicking and going 'wtf is he even doing' |
Gyromania
09.01.22 | Yeah I've heard Cult is a lot more about the sim aspect and I'm cool with that. I've never been into Animal crossing and most games like it, but this one has way more of a draw, for me. The art style is just incredible
Well done, Mort! And yeah Isshin becomes easier the more you play him. I lost to him an embarrassing amount of times my first playthrough though. I even called him "the most dogshit boss FromSoft has ever made". Ugh. Blasting through his first phase in like 30 seconds feels so good |
PotsyTater
09.01.22 | @gyro yeah animal crossing etc get boring for me pretty quick, but so do roguelites, so this is a nice balance |
Mort.
09.01.22 | 'I lost to him an embarrassing amount of times my first playthrough though.'
loool same. pretty sure on my first playthrough it took me something like 3+ hours to beat him. they made him move in very weird ways. hard to predict at first.
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PotsyTater
09.01.22 | If you try to tell me sword saint is easy one more time I will find out where you live and I will move things in your house around every time you are out for the rest of your life |
Mort.
09.01.22 | its easy pots, just spend most of the fight running away and only ever attacking when youre absolutely sure you can get a hit in without being punished, and it will only take like 40 minutes tops! and then if you fuck up at the last minute you just have to do it all over again! brilliant!
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Mort.
09.01.22 | seriously tho its mad how much easier sekiro is when you just ignore prosthetics and become a parry/counter/dodge machine |
PotsyTater
09.01.22 | Lmao I’m mad |
Mort.
09.03.22 | playing bioshock remastered (classic game love it) and then probably dark souls 3 as its one of the few fromsoft games i havent platinumed |
Mort.
09.14.22 | getting my ass beat by nameless king in ds3 |
ConcubinaryCode
09.14.22 | I'm playing a bit of Control atm. What did everyone think of it? It feels like a sequel to quantum break without all the baggage so far. |
Mort.
09.14.22 | control was cool i just hated the writing. naming the town they were from Ordinary was incredibly stupid. i hate writing like that. why not fucking name her ay typical if youre going to be that stupid |
Mort.
09.14.22 | but the graphics and gameplay were pretty great. im a sucker for power/shooter games |
Slex
09.14.22 | Just watched my roommate finally beat Control yesterday, shit was pretty cool |
ConcubinaryCode
09.14.22 | I always wondered why remedy writing always got the praise it did. The dialogue itself is fucking dry as hell and the inner monologue stuff really drags the scenes longer than they need to be, I think they wanted them to add a little comedic element to the game but it's not working for me. Maybe max payne was just a story for the ages and they've ridden off the games success until now (haven't played em) but their stories give me David cage vibes where they would be laughed off tv as a show or a movie so they relegated themselves as a game studio to get around that.
The actual gameplay is pretty smooth though and you can tell a lot of work went into the detail of everything that revolves around the powers and physics. At least there isn't half hour episodes between missions too. I kinda like the games approach to the open world genre too (so far anyway) |
Gyromania
09.14.22 | yeah mort getting the deflect timing down makes sekiro feel so much easier. i get why people call it the hardest fromsoft game but that only applies for the first 1-2 playthroughs i think. also nameless king still kicks my ass from time to time. incredible boss.
conc: control is AMAZING. it actually reminded me a lot of psi ops back on the original xbox. great atmosphere, story and gameplay. absolutely runs like dogshit on ps4 but is buttery smooth on next gen consoles |
ConcubinaryCode
09.14.22 | Yeah, the loading after I die takes ages so I try really hard to not. |
PotsyTater
09.14.22 | I just finished control myself. I skipped all dialogue 😂. Really have no idea what the game was about but it was fun. I didn’t have any problems on the ps4 version honestly. But I went from xcom load times to that so…
Just started dark cloud. A favourite of mine as a kid. |
Mort.
09.14.22 | you really didnt miss much pots. the story is very forgettable. |
Slex
09.14.22 | The story has some decent stuff imo but overall it is definitely a self-satisfied mess yea |
PotsyTater
09.14.22 | The dialogue scenes were sooooo fucking long and boring, I was just like I wanna throw stuff into stuff let’s fuckin go already |
Slex
09.14.22 | Didn't help that they made all the cutscenes so weirdly and distractingly static |
Mort.
09.14.22 | lol yeah i remember that slex. had that weird animatronic quality
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Mort.
09.14.22 | the game was at its best when you were hovering around throwing shit at enemies while particles exploded onto the screen (making my ps4 burn up in the process) |
ConcubinaryCode
09.15.22 | I'm willing to humor the game but I get the feeling Sam Lake thinks he is a better writer than he actually is. Like you can make a cool concept sure, but the delivery is falling flat for me. The intrigue only lasts for so long before I stop caring.
Also forgot to mention the sound design is pretty good too. |
Slex
09.15.22 | Yeah it's all style and no substance basically, especially with the relentless jargon n whatnot, all window dressing |
protokute
09.15.22 | The combat in Control was pretty fun, fluid and all, but unfortunately it lost its charm after a few hours, and it just felt tedious for me with the lack of enemy variety and doing the same kind of things to kill them. Same for the atmosphere in the game, it was pretty cool at first but the lack of variety kills it. It didn't help that the game ran very poorly on my PC and I didn't expect the graphics to be that demanding, probably just bad optimization. Yeah, I didn't finish it.
Started playing Darkest Dungeon now, after being obsessed with Vampire Survivors and I'm loving it so far, very challenging though. Man, I love roguelikes. |
ConcubinaryCode
09.15.22 | Darkest Dungeon is more like dankest dungeon, it does get ridiculously hard later on and some runs just turn into bs but you kinda need to press on eventually because that's how you get the loot even if it kills one of your favorite characters. I kinda wanna try the sequel but hear mixed things about it.
I think I'm about a third way through control and kinda wanna stick with it because it's not really that long a game as I understand it. I also just realized how much it reminds me of the 2017 Prey as well although that games just a bit better than this. Not as full of itself either. |
Mort.
09.15.22 | i liked darkest dungeon but couldnt really get into the whole slog aspect of it. would be more appealing as a more typical rogelike where you do one run and its done in 1-2 hours.
interested what makes you think of prey with control seeming as prey is very different imo. control doesnt have any of the immersive sim elements prey does. if you mean setting wise i get it tho |
PotsyTater
09.15.22 | The ashtray maze section of control was so cool I don’t know why they decided to ruin it with the shittiest prog metal song ever made |
Flugmorph
09.15.22 | play Project Zomboid. |
ConcubinaryCode
09.15.22 | Ye, they play way differently obviously but the way the game is set around exploring this huge expanse after an unknown entity wreaks havoc on the place that fucked around with supernatural creatures and picking up the pieces afterward fits pretty in line I think. Both kinda fit the same tone and how you explore the place is kinda similar although I think Control could've used the metroid style of locking areas behind powers instead of story progression. Prey does that aspect way better. The game sounds like it's implying Jesse likes becoming more powerful with the powers and feels at home here too which kinda feels akin to Prey as well.
I'm supposed to be heading to the containment area now to find Dylan now. I'm kinda over doing those motel room puzzles at this point, I'm really anticipating that ash maze part cuz its THE thing I'm always hearing about this game kinda like the time jump level from titanfall 2. |
PotsyTater
09.15.22 | The motel room puzzles are so bad that I didn’t realize I was doing puzzles until I was on the third one 😂 |
Mort.
09.15.22 | 'kinda like the time jump level from titanfall 2'
funnily enough i played that the other day as im trying to platinum titanfall 2. used to play it a lot. redownloaded it when i saw all i had to do was get all the collectibles and come top 3 in the gauntlet times. still got to do the gauntlet trophy. shits hard.
and yeah i agree with you regarding prey. deffo has similar vibes to control. looking forward to doing another playthrough of that |
ConcubinaryCode
09.15.22 | Same boat regarding the achievements in tf2. I never cared much for those achievements, I'm only missing the pit boss achievement in mw2remastered as well but I can't be bothered. MP was pretty fun though, I still haven't tried Apex but I don't really like the battle Royale format anyway. |
protokute
09.19.22 | After finally getting the hang of Darkest Dungeon, I'm starting to get a bit tired of it, the game seems to get really slow sometimes. |
ConcubinaryCode
09.24.22 | I finally beat Control. It didn't go the way I thought it did, not entirely anyway. Idk if it was a budgeting issue but for how mysterious the story is supposed to be there really isn't a lot of it. I did play the Alan wake dlc and thought it was pretty solid. I'm halfway through the foundation now and am liking the more open ended way they designed the levels, it feels like they got to nail down what they wanted to do in the main game but only got to really brush upon a few times. Ashtray maze was ok, I was just expecting something different from it but its one of the games better set pieces for sure. I can see why so many people put the game down early on too because it's so front loaded. It's probably one of the few games I wouldn't have minded a waypoint marker for. How many people fucked with any of the powers besides the force push btw? That power is so busted and when you get to pick up three items at once the game is over, you can one shot damn near anything it's ridic. |
MoM
09.24.22 | I fucking love Control! Goddamn, so many amazing games and so many left to try! |
Slex
09.24.22 | Currently playing Deathloop, having a good time but has some flaws, feeling like an 8.5 so far |
Gyromania
09.24.22 | i couldn't get into that one. it felt like the dishonoured games, which are fun but there's something just off about them. the ai is absolutely braindead too, which takes me out of the experience. i keep meaning to go back and try it for more than a couple hours though but there's just so much good stuff to play rn.
gotta update this list and add shovel knight dig and a few others. also the control takes itt are super weak! |
Slex
09.24.22 | Deathloop takes a while to get going but once you start getting more powers and more unique weapon and character mods it becomes pretty great
Also the AI gets so much hate but the enemies literally are supposed to be a bunch of drunk idiots lol, i agree the balance is off but I think the AI gets too much hate considering how much it's referenced in the actual game (and the fact that their stupidity leads to some hilarious moments) |
Gyromania
09.24.22 | yeah one thing i will say is i had some hilarious af encounters, but i wish they engaged in a more logical way, or didn't flat-out stop working at times. being drunk idiots is one thing, but some of the bugs i had made them seem completely busted at times |
Slex
09.24.22 | Definitely fair! It is still unbalanced for sure, kinda feel that way about the game in general, wish it was more consistent and less repetitive |
FreakMachine
09.24.22 | Have you had the chance to try Metal: Hellsinger yet? It's super repetetive but still really fun.
Also been playing Prodeus recently, which is just so much of a throwback.
To the people who have mentioned Control, it's a masterpiece. Especially on PC with all the RT settings turned up as the game was clearly 100% architected around it. |
Slex
09.24.22 | Eyeballing both of those games actually, just downloaded Prodeus earlier
I am also in the thick of Slime Rancher 2 and idgaf game is glorious |
FreakMachine
09.24.22 | Prodeus is super fun, it's just an old-school shooter with modern rendering paradigms including textures that scale to 8K. Run it at 240fps and it's an absolute dream. |
Slex
09.24.22 | 120 will have to do but that sounds hype |
Gyromania
09.24.22 | i haven't seen anything on either
also for everyone who owns a ps5: play returnal rn. 10/10 masterpiece |
FreakMachine
09.24.22 | Returnal really is awesome. I dunno about 10/10, but it's definitely a great experience. Can't wait for the PC port. Debating flogging my ps5 since I never use it other than for platinum trophies. |
Gyromania
09.24.22 | returnal just got better the more i played it. it's the first game i've played that truly feels like a next-gen experience. killer soundtrack too.
lately i've been going through all the FNAF games trying to plat them |
ConcubinaryCode
09.24.22 | Oh yeah, i also forgot to mention hating the glitches on my playthrough. Like sound wouldn't happen for like a third of the conversations or cutscenes. It sucks when the map doesn't load in properly and you just have to git gud with learning the layout or having to wait like five seconds for the game to not stutter whenever you unpause. |
Slex
09.24.22 | No joke, Returnal is the biggest reason I want a PS5 lol, I want to play it SO FUCKING BAD |
FreakMachine
09.24.22 | "returnal just got better the more i played it. it's the first game i've played that truly feels like a next-gen experience. killer soundtrack too.
lately i've been going through all the FNAF games trying to plat them"
I think the loading makes it feel next-gen, I'd argue that the particle effects could easily have been done at 30FPS on ps4, and the fact that it's rendering at 1080P internally, checkerboarded to 1440P then upscaled to 4K is cheating a bit and it definitely doesn't look 4K. If you aren't into the tech side of things then this is no doubt irrelevant to you, but I love games that try and push the medium forward and Returnal didn't do that for me. That being said, I'm not knocking your view on it and I definitely agree it's one of the games that feels most at home as a next-gen only game, alongside Ratchet.
I'm currently working on the DMC5 platinum when I turn my ps5 on, but it's a bastard and i'm close to giving up. I usually play exclusively on PC, but I love the trophy hunting experience :) |
FreakMachine
09.24.22 | "No joke, Returnal is the biggest reason I want a PS5 lol, I want to play it SO FUCKING BAD "
Yeah, if you've played Enter The Gungeon think that but in full 3D and MUCH more over the top |
Slex
09.24.22 | I watched the boss fights for Returnal on YouTube and they absolutely blew my mind, especially the weird tentacle one that plays a piano and shit |
Gyromania
09.24.22 | i don't think graphics have a whole lot to do with pushing the medium forward tbh, but there is for sure correlation between graphics and next gen games typically. for me though its artstyle and overall atsmosphere is incredible, and it's still a damn good looking game. it takes full advantage of haptic feedback better than any other ps5 game i've played and the speed, responsiveness of controls and overall feel of the game is just incredible. i feel like it does more than enough to distinguish itself from other roguelikes. i still need to play ratchet and clank tho |
Gyromania
09.24.22 | hyperion is the piano boss and it's pretty crazy but nemesis was on a whole other level. fucking crazy sensory overload but once you get the hang of it it's immensely satisfying |
FreakMachine
09.24.22 | "I watched the boss fights for Returnal on YouTube and they absolutely blew my mind, especially the weird tentacle one that plays a piano and shit "
I had a lot of trouble with the one where you have to move between platforms (you'll know the one).
Tbf, Metal: Hellsingers bosses are very similar. It's the same boss for every stage, but it's moveset changes and the arenas are different. I got huge Returnal vibes during the boss fights. The rest of the game plays out like Doom meets Guitar Hero. |
Slex
09.24.22 | I just loved how Hyperion would actually change the boss theme when he plays and then you have to like basically dodge all his notes? That's so creative and cool |
FreakMachine
09.24.22 | "i don't think graphics have a whole lot to do with pushing the medium forward tbh, but there is for sure correlation between graphics and next gen games typically. for me though its artstyle and overall atsmosphere is incredible, and it's still a damn good looking game. it takes full advantage of haptic feedback better than any other ps5 game i've played and the speed, responsiveness of controls and overall feel of the game is just incredible. i feel like it does more than enough to distinguish itself from other roguelikes. i still need to play ratchet and clank tho "
Yes I 100% agree with you here tbf, I mean pushing the graphical envelope forward, I apologize I should have been clear about that. I love the haptic feedback in this game for sure, and yeah it's definitely different from most Roguelikes. I absolutely adored it. I haven't played Ratchet myself, but I've seen enough of it. The RT effects in it were beautiful. As (again) a primarily PC gamer, I love ray tracing and like to see creative implementations of it, and for Ratchet it felt great to see. |
ConcubinaryCode
09.24.22 | Ratchet is like the only game that makes me want to get a ps5. I've heard it's the best entry since the ps2 games which I'm a bit skeptical of but it does look gorgeous. I think there is definitely an argument for graphics helping pushing the medium and add to the experience. Theres a ton of say 6th gen games that hold up relatively well because of their artstyle and direction. I'd say ratchet or the jak games actually follow that trend but naughty dog has always had visually strong games. |
FreakMachine
09.24.22 | "I'd say ratchet or the jak games actually follow that trend but naughty dog has always had visually strong games. " Last Of Us 1 Remastered makes the remake irrelevant imo. |