Underflow
05.03.22 | Contraceptives, gay marriage, and interracial marriage are next on the chopping block. Enjoy your fascist theocratic third world hellhole, fellow Americans. |
GhandhiLion
05.03.22 | Source |
GhandhiLion
05.03.22 | Oh shit |
Underflow
05.03.22 | https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/02/supreme-court-abortion-draft-opinion-00029473 |
Underflow
05.03.22 | source in og post now |
Underflow
05.03.22 | inb4 doof says "uhhh, well ackshually this is a good thing" |
tectactoe
05.03.22 | Don't identify strictly as either conservative or liberal (imo the two-party system is the bane of American politics) but the fact that abortion is even considered a "political" topic of discussion never fails to blow my mind. Even more hilarious that 99.9% of the time, it's men making these decisions. Truly unreal, almost dystopian. Hardcore Christian conservatives need to settle the fuck down and keep their stupid religious bullshit out of their decision-making (yeah I know that'll never happen). I feel so bad for women. |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.03.22 | Sure would’ve been cool if RBG retired after, idk, the first cancer diagnosis.
This country is gonna go so far right it’ll make your fuckin head spin. Gay marriage? Gone. All social safety nets are going to be dropped to the bare minimum. Voter suppression will reach all time highs, meanwhile the earth is literally on fire and our limp dick government isn’t doing anything about. Wait til republicans get the house, senate and presidency. The last few decades of progress are about to be for absolutely nothing.
Fuck this place. |
GhandhiLion
05.03.22 | It's a moral topic which is highly related to politics. It's no surprise that it's still a hot topic with how divisive it is and how passionate both sides are. It will probably always be that way. |
tectactoe
05.03.22 | Yeah RBG not retiring back in 2013 or 2014 back when the dems held the Senate was a pretty selfish and imprudent move. One could easily argue that had she hung her robe up back then, this wouldn't be happening today. |
tectactoe
05.03.22 | That's a piss take, Ghandhi. There are a myriad of ethical and moral topics that don't extend to federal or even state law. The majority of pro-lifers are driven by religious belief (which, okay, has some overlap with "morality" to a certain extent) which is explicitly against the basis upon which laws should be governed.
eta: I don't disagree with your add'l sentiment that it's a "hot" topic with two passionate sides that will likely never reach a static resolution, but again that criterion alone does not necessarily justify it as something that should be controlled by politicians. |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.03.22 | None of this would be happening.
It wouldn’t be ideal but I’d rather have some corporate dem in there than these shit eating fucking garbage ass Republicans. |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.03.22 | Not to mention abortions will still happen, just now it’s way less safe and not regulated.
Wait to go pro lifers, on getting more people killed. Fucking cunts |
Cimnele
05.03.22 | you guys respect christians way too much |
ArsMoriendi
05.03.22 | Interracial marriage will be fine, Clarence Thomas, the most conservative of them all, is in an interracial marriage. |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.03.22 | that’s a pretty low fucking bar for social justice |
Gameofmetal
05.03.22 | Only like 19% of the country supports making abortion illegal in all cases, the opposition to abortion is disproportionately in positions of power and wealth. These rich fucks do not represent the will of the people. |
Sevengill
05.03.22 | Ars you say that like people don't vote against their own self-interests. #Brexit |
Senetrix666
05.03.22 | clarence thomas is married to a QAnon fascist crazy person. dont be so sure |
Senetrix666
05.03.22 | so much for separation of church and state. this country is an embarrassment |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.03.22 | “this country is an embarrassment”
cocks gun
“Always has been.” |
ArsMoriendi
05.03.22 | What worries me about the gay rights ones is that while Roberts sometimes sides with the liberal judges, he was anti gay marriage for that ruling. So even if like Kavanaugh sided with the libs, it may not matter |
Friday13th
05.03.22 | It's about time we stop pretending murdering innocent humans has anything to do with the Constitution. |
DavidYowi
05.03.22 | God there’s just so much to be angry about with this but god I hate the supreme court with every fiber of my being. Rights for millions are perpetually on a tightrope based on the whims of nine of the stupidest and most repugnant people on earth. The fall of the US empire can’t come soon enough |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.03.22 | “ The fall of the US empire can’t come soon enough”
There’s some shit I can I get on board with |
ArsMoriendi
05.03.22 | I wouldn’t talk about all 9 justices as if they’re all similar Yowi, but okay… |
Sevengill
05.03.22 | "It's about time we stop pretending murdering innocent humans has anything to do with the Constitution."
wut |
botb
05.03.22 | Honestly, it’s as much the stupid neolibs fault as it is the religious weirdos who want to push their ideals on everyone else. RGB should have retired long ago, the dems held both the house and the senate and didn’t instate any term limits or really do ANYTHING worthwhile other than line their own pockets. The average working class person has next to no representation and despite corporate profits being at all time highs and CEOs stacking record numbers of billions of dollars, we are getting blamed for the inflation we’re experiencing now. “Oh we raised minimum wage, so…” nah fuck you dude, we have people out here launching cars into space and buying their rivals tech companies in a giant childish dick measuring contest they have so much money. |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.03.22 | fuckin a botb
Today, it’s woman’s autonomy, tomorrow it’s LGBT rights, and so on. |
Meridiu5
05.03.22 | Rip in piece |
Meridiu5
05.03.22 | Ackshually this is a bad thing |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.03.22 | :D |
chemicalmarriage
05.03.22 | This thread is going to be a burning pile of shit. Glad to have contributed. Going to get some snacks brb |
YoYoMancuso
05.03.22 | gonna be some great discussion about this here on sputnikmusic.com |
Intothepit
05.03.22 | I had a baby once. It was delicious. |
Nikkolae
05.03.22 | "Interracial marriage will be fine, Clarence Thomas, the most conservative of them all, is in an interracial marriage."
is this still a thing? it cant be, oh god please, its 2022 how could interracial marriage even still be a thing? |
Purpl3Spartan
05.03.22 | If this actually gets overturned, most states are probably just going to rewrite their own version of it anyways |
bigweinerdon
05.03.22 | how are we still debating abortion
stupid fuckers |
pjquinones747
05.03.22 | I don't even know how to begin voicing my disappointment. This country is a joke. This is only going to escalate from here. |
TheSpirit
05.03.22 | gotta say, i am impressed w/the flow of discourse in this thread |
Drifter
05.03.22 | hang all republicans |
Trebor.
05.03.22 | I hate being American so much |
Hyperion1001
05.03.22 | the US devolves further into religious barbarism. |
brainmelter
05.03.22 | gonna be some great discussion about this here on sputnikmusic.com[2]
I for sure thought that this was going to be a sonic list |
Avagantamos
05.03.22 | pls nuke us putin |
DANcore
05.03.22 | Every day I find myself becoming more and more ashamed to be a part of this country |
Keyblade
05.03.22 | its funny because these are the same people who have been crying for the last 20 years that muslims were trying to turn the country into a theocracy |
Ignimbrite
05.03.22 | pleasantly surprised that the "this thread is gonna be a shitshow" comments are far outnumbering any braindead rightoid takes about this |
FellHanded
05.03.22 | Didn’t Mexico of all places recently legalize abortion? What a complete fucking joke |
AmericanFlagAsh
05.03.22 | Fucking can't believe it's 2022 and we let religion govern our laws still
Fuck your stupid outdated beliefs, most religious people are complete fucking hypocrites anyway |
CygnusX1
05.03.22 | So all those "my body, my choice" signs conservatives were holding up protesting vaccine mandates must have gotten lost, how strange. It's not like they're reactionary hypocrites or anything... |
Egarran
05.03.22 | Where civil war? |
GhandhiLion
05.03.22 | "So all those "my body, my choice" signs conservatives were holding up protesting vaccine mandates.."
There's actually nothing hypocritical about them saying that they just have a different view on what constitutes a life than you. |
Nikkolae
05.03.22 | "Didn’t Mexico of all places recently legalize abortion? What a complete fucking joke"
yup, hard fought, hard earned, but they did. |
Keyblade
05.03.22 | "There's actually nothing hypocritical about them saying that they just have a different view on what constitutes a life than you."
so it's not actually their body, their choice then |
GhandhiLion
05.03.22 | Agreed, we should have enforced vaccines unironically |
JayEnder
05.03.22 | Cringe thread |
Snake.
05.03.22 | nuke the us [2] |
Trebor.
05.03.22 | "Didn’t Mexico of all places recently legalize abortion? What a complete fucking joke"
That's the wild thing for me. If abortion is made illegal federally my gf and I will have to drive to Mexico lol |
Rolling Girl
05.03.22 | I really hate this country.
A small part of me almost wishes that the last guy won a second term. Maybe then the so called moderates would've seen just how broken everything was and we could've fought for meaningful change instead of just "going back to normal" |
Snake.
05.03.22 | i want every single fake woke piece of shit who fucking bullied me into voting for that crony skeletal disaster to choke on their fucking words so badly because this was one of the main reasons we had to get orange man out
fuck |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.03.22 | “I really hate this country.
A small part of me almost wishes that the last guy won a second term. Maybe then the so called moderates would've seen just how broken everything was and we could've fought for meaningful change instead of just "going back to normal"”
The term for that is Accelerationism, and if the orange man wins in 24 you can bet that more people will be radicalized.
And @snake don’t let the libs guilt trip you, the was already over the moment RBG died. |
Hyperion1001
05.03.22 | idk how we can even fix things at this point tbh |
Colton
05.03.22 | does this apply to all scenarios, like rape or cases where the mother would die if she gives birth |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.03.22 | Rape yes, I’m not sure of the other one.
But that doesn’t matter because of the whole “self autonomy” thing.
You’d think conservatives would go wild for “personal freedom” |
Ignimbrite
05.03.22 | i would like to take a giant dump on Lisa murkowski's desk, what a fucking spineless coward (also Collins) |
Snake.
05.03.22 | "the was already over the moment RBG died"
oh i know but you'd think that democrat voters with over four years of higher education would be bright enough to logically put the two together 🤔 |
botb
05.03.22 | Yeah funny how quickly all the “keep the government out of all my shit” ethos flies out of the window when it’s about something that fictional bearded sky man frowns upon |
Keyblade
05.03.22 | pretty much every justification for a conservative position is a red herring. they have to be |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.03.22 | Nope, just shitty people with even shittier beliefs |
Flugmorph
05.03.22 | "A small part of me almost wishes that the last guy won a second term. Maybe then the so called moderates would've seen just how broken everything was and we could've fought for meaningful change instead of just "going back to normal""
no no no no no |
Colton
05.03.22 | i can see how some ppl take issue with abortion in general but in cases of rape or medical necessity it’s indefensible |
porcupinetheater
05.03.22 | The fucking conservatives branding anti-abortion as “pro-life” and galvanizing endless religious fundamentalist support in perpetuity by ensuring that the opposition is always viewed as actual murderers so they can hitch whatever else they want to the party wagon and not lose their core base is one of the most brilliantly evil coups anyone’s pulled off. Psychopaths and idiots make such a sustainable ecosystem.
Hope they all get force fed their pried off toenails |
Meridiu5
05.03.22 | nice rec. will jam while cramming one last abortion in before the fetuspocalypse |
rhinocerosmilk
05.03.22 | Women and gays it is time time to get some guns and bullets. |
Snake.
05.03.22 | "A small part of me almost wishes that the last guy won a second term. Maybe then the so called moderates would've seen just how broken everything was and we could've fought for meaningful change instead of just "going back to normal""
they literally had 2017-2019 to do that and they didn't, black kids were still being shot in the street and mass deportation was rampant. they didn't give a shit about anything until THEIR lives started to become affected and now that COVID is seemingly an afterthought they've moved on to a healing chapter for THEIR own sake |
rabidfish
05.03.22 | the last 6,000 years of "civilization" have been possible because of the strong union of state and religion. King/High Priest hardcore patriarchy is the only way we've known how to do things in a big scale for milennia. And now we live in a very very very big scale. Only a worldwide crisis will turn the tide. Won't be long for the climate crisis to come knocking. |
Flugmorph
05.03.22 | ewww |
AmericanFlagAsh
05.03.22 | Are you saying we should go back to a strong union of state and religion because absolutely the fuck not, fuck organized religion, it has destroyed so many lives for no reason |
Meridiu5
05.03.22 | What are the per capita statistics of the interaction though? Are religious people actually worse than nonreligious people or are you just spewing out nonsense news that you were fed. |
Epilogue
05.03.22 | IonQ's earnings call will be pleasant, to say the least. Buying the dip now so I can wrap my patient rewards later |
rabidfish
05.03.22 | i'm not saying we should go back, i'm sayin it never stopped. It's deeply rooted in how our civilization works atm. |
kalkwiese
05.03.22 | "Are religious people actually worse than nonreligious people"
Yes they are lmao |
budgie
05.03.22 | "the last 6,000 years of "civilization" have been possible because of the strong union of state and religion."
uh |
JeetJeet
05.03.22 | Damn. So I guess rawdog season is over with |
rabidfish
05.03.22 | condensed set of rules based on dogmatic interpretation of beliefs by a cast of old dudes that are in cahoots with the ruling elite to mantain control over the population by superstition and violence.
Check Deleuze and Guattari |
AmericanFlagAsh
05.03.22 | "Are religious people actually worse than nonreligious people"
Wait are you serious... |
MO
05.03.22 | "is this still a thing? it cant be, oh god please, its 2022 how could interracial marriage even still be a thing?"
of course it's not a thing holy fuck. the hyper kneejerk reactionaries really go all out sometimes with the worst case scenario takes...wow |
Snake.
05.03.22 | |
brainmelter
05.03.22 | sad that women's rights are considered ‘left-leaning’. the fact that abortion is politicized is fuckin embarrassing |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.03.22 | I wonder what else that’s considered “left leaning” is also morally correct |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.03.22 | slurp slurp slurrrrrrrppppppppp |
WeepingBanana
05.03.22 | Hinkley had a vision |
WeepingBanana
05.03.22 | “the last 6,000 years of "civilization" have been possible because of the strong union of state and religion. King/High Priest hardcore patriarchy is the only way we've known how to do things in a big scale for milennia.”
This is wholly untrue |
LeddSledd
05.03.22 | i can't help but feel entirely helpless when this is what can be taken from us at a moment's notice
fuck every last religious conservative trying to sign this into law |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.03.22 | Yeah I’ve gone full doomer.
I’ll still help where I can but there’s no fucking hope for a better future. |
Relinquished
05.03.22 | make your own future bright fuck everyone else |
Hyperion1001
05.03.22 | “When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying the cross.” -Sinclair Lewis
sorry im doomposting but its hard not to be utterly despondent at the current state of things. |
Purpl3Spartan
05.03.22 | Thread got bad wow |
Hyperion1001
05.03.22 | ive been reading up on accelerationism recently just cause its hard not to be so doomer about everything. idk if its right but it feels like it when shit like this happens. |
Snake.
05.03.22 | more like make your own future bright kill yourself before you get to see it |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.03.22 | SHE'S MY
ACCELERATOR |
Nikkolae
05.03.22 | "of course it's not a thing holy fuck. the hyper kneejerk reactionaries really go all out sometimes with the worst case scenario takes...wow"
being a non american, you gotta understand that everybody else has no fucking clue whats going on with your country right now. |
Chambered79
05.03.22 | i volunteer to drive the abortion bus from kansas to new york |
Storm In A Teacup
05.03.22 | Lmao at the guy who doesn't understand how prevalent sexuality of all types has been through history. |
Chambered79
05.03.22 | are you talking to me |
Storm In A Teacup
05.03.22 | "being a non american, you gotta understand that everybody else has no fucking clue whats going on with your country right now"
The short answer is we legally consider businesseses and states as their own person and all the states and big businesses are suffering a bunch of mental illnesses that if it were all combined into one person you would have James Mcavoy in the Split and Glass movies. |
MillionDead
05.03.22 | What a complete travesty. |
Egarran
05.03.22 | >I wonder what else that’s considered “left leaning” is also morally correct
ALL OF IT
But this is not about morals. Abortion has been appointed a hill to die on for conservatives. Like the death penalty. They couldn't give a fuck about the morality of it. |
smaugman
05.03.22 | i know americans dont appreciate being bashed by europeans...but god damn is your country really shit for being a first world country |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.03.22 | Yeah that was my point eg but I’m glad you have a good head on your shoulders |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.03.22 | no bash us even worse, we deserve it |
Storm In A Teacup
05.03.22 | I met God once and they were very sad in regard to how much we don't just all love each other. |
Chambered79
05.03.22 | >I wonder what else that’s considered “left leaning” is also morally correct
ALL OF IT
lol is this a joke. |
Meridiu5
05.03.22 | I'm pretty sure its OP just bumping his own post with provocative opinions at this point. |
Underflow
05.03.22 | Yeah every account in this thread is actually my alt including yours |
Chambered79
05.03.22 | come to think of it, i've never seen any of us in the same room together... |
Deathconscious
05.03.22 | "rawdog season"
My favorite Brand New song. |
Underflow
05.03.22 | Insert corporate needs you to tell the difference between these two pictures meme here but the pictures are just the words "GOP" and "Taliban" |
Egarran
05.03.22 | >lol is this a joke
yes
and it works because it's true |
Keyblade
05.03.22 | the jig is up Underflow, we know you created a bunch of different alts spanning decades and thousands of comments all for this moment |
CaliggyJack
05.03.22 | Republicans are such a joke LMAO
The only reason they're overturning it now is cuz they're bitter Dems threatened to bypass em with their congressional majority, so they're pulling this shit in some petty attempt at flexing to Dems that they still have some modicum of control. |
botb
05.03.22 | “ Damn. So I guess rawdog season is over with”
Bro lmaoooo |
Deathconscious
05.03.22 | I get the frustration but accelerationism is one of the dumbest and most dangerous ideologies to infect the left, and doomerism isnt going to help us either. There has been a net positive change over the decades. Its not all going to happen at once, and we cant give up in despair every time theres a setback. I feel like this is something the left is really bad at, i dont see conservatives doing this. |
Chambered79
05.03.22 | conservatives are too busy playing golf |
rabidfish
05.03.22 | "accelerationism is one of the dumbest and most dangerous ideologies to infect the left"
agree. Like I said, this overarching power structures are so old and stablished, we can't even fathom a way out, but there is one, and it doesn't involve abrupt, 1-2 generation change, it's in a scale that transcends us as a civilization. We have to address the here and now, always, but with awareness of the 100,000 years behind us and the next 100,000 years before us. |
Snake.
05.03.22 | "I get the frustration but accelerationism is one of the dumbest and most dangerous ideologies to infect the left, and doomerism isnt going to help us either. There has been a net positive change over the decades. Its not all going to happen at once, and we cant give up in despair every time theres a setback."
adolf christ for president everybody he'll fix everything somehow |
Deathconscious
05.03.22 | True. Youre going to the gulags though. |
Storm In A Teacup
05.03.22 | Even if they do this abortion will still be legal in like 30ish states. Just the south and midwest republican states will make it their state lawbanning abortion. The rest will make it legal in their state. |
Storm In A Teacup
05.03.22 | So it is still bad but at least it's not the whole country. |
Storm In A Teacup
05.03.22 | And im sure even in the republican states more people beilieve in equal rights than ever before so anothet 50 years and abortion will be stronger than ever. |
Storm In A Teacup
05.03.22 | Wow this phone sucks lol |
FellHanded
05.03.22 | womens choice = leftie , what a fucking joke |
Anthracks
05.03.22 | these assholes are just trying to get blue voters out of their states so there isn't a repeat of Georgia |
Koris
05.03.22 | "Thread got bad wow"
Were you somehow not expecting it to? lol
the fact that abortion is politicized is fuckin embarrassing [2] |
Deathconscious
05.03.22 | @fell Not really. Being a "leftie" just means you lean left, it doesnt necessarily mean youre a socialist or an anarchist. And yes, left leaning people are usually pro-choice, so. Not sure what the problem is. |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.03.22 | not to me. I don’t consider Democrats lefties or even “left leaning”. They may be progressive socially so that’s why I don’t despise them like I do with Republicans, but liberalism being completely useless is what led us to this mess in the first place. |
Winesburgohio
05.04.22 | it's not too late! as a draft I believe it can still be terminated / jesus christ america has a lot of temerity calling itself first-world and democratic. i read the Roe v. Wade ruling this morning and it's possible i'm missing some nuance but it seems like they've had decades to come up with stronger safeguards for what is a fundamental right - that ruling is more about the semantics of personal autonomy than an explicit ruling in favour of abortions being freely available, on demand, as they ought. ...although nz only removed abortions from the crimes act a couple of years ago so |
hal1ax
05.04.22 | they plan on giving control of abortion policy back to states?
wonder if we'll see a lot of people relocate to blue states because of this
but yea this is a tragedy |
Trebor.
05.04.22 | As long as every state gets 2 senators we're all fucked. Especially if left leaning people move out of red states |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.04.22 | fuck moving out of red states, I want to move out of this fucking country |
Trebor.
05.04.22 | Same. I've been thinking about it for years. It's really fucking hard though, like Europe doesn't want or need us |
Deathconscious
05.04.22 | Same. |
tigersbrokefree
05.04.22 | Evil facist Y'all Qaeda continues destroying the country, news at 11.
Agree with moving out of the country, have wanted to do it for so long. If only... |
tigersbrokefree
05.04.22 | My state is a great example of a red swamp... all the young and intelligent people move away because it's a dying shithole full of insane hillrods, so insane hillrods vote for insane hillrods, who further rig the game, and death spiral.
Spineless centrists and "leftists who are really conservatives in any sane country" thought a single election was going to save them through 4+ years destructive cultism on top of decades of destructive policies from St. Reagan and Nixon. Hello, did you not see that we have two rapists and a Stepford wife on the Supreme Court? It's only going to get worse from here. |
tigersbrokefree
05.04.22 | Maybe people will decide to buck up and actually fight back one of these days. If the Overton window eventually goes so far right it falls off the edge of the Earth, maybe then? |
cvlts
05.04.22 | New Rolo Tomassi lookin like AOTY to me |
Winesburgohio
05.04.22 | the life-long tenure thing is fucked to me. it means you're entrusting important / basic Human Rights to people whose age is best measured in geologic-era terms without checks, balances or scrutiny. system probably needs amending |
Sharenge
05.04.22 | whaddya say we lighten things up and talk about abortion
let's talk about abortion
let's talk about child killing and see if we can't get some chuckles rippling through the room here
let's talk about mass murder of young, unborn children - see if we can't coalesce into one big, healthy gut-laugh
ah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha |
zaruyache
05.04.22 | "Maybe people will decide to buck up and actually fight back one of these days."
2020 police protests were our largest movement in decades and that resulted in a net increase in police funding across the country. |
Underflow
05.04.22 | its awesome that the guy who was so black out drunk in college he couldn't remember who he raped now gets to revoke the right for his victims to terminate any pregnancies he causes |
zaruyache
05.04.22 | evangelicals are the real long-game threat and we have no way to stop them, on an institutional level. feels good man |
Underflow
05.04.22 | yall qaeda |
sonictheplumber
05.04.22 | im pro abortion. in fact i even like recreational abortions |
Snake.
05.04.22 | "its awesome that the guy who was so black out drunk in college he couldn't remember who he raped now gets to revoke the right for his victims to terminate any pregnancies he causes"
LMAO whew crazy how everyone forgot about that |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.04.22 | yeah sometimes I’ve had too many beers too but I’ve also never sexually assaulted someone |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.04.22 | my cup...is overflowing...i'll never be thirsty again |
Deathconscious
05.04.22 | Enjoy your piss. |
Underflow
05.04.22 | something i feel like is getting lost in the shitstorm this has caused is how abortion isn't just a women's issue, but also a class issue. people in positions of power will always have access to abortion regardless of the laws that affect you and me. |
Meridiu5
05.04.22 | Democrats of the past 100 years basically said in public that abortion was implemented in order to commit a genocide on poor minorities. ie: Margaret Sanger. Now the Dems just don't say that part out loud while continuing the genocide behind closed doors. Meanwhile the rich white Democrats clap and cheer from their gated communities while patting themselves on the back. |
Trebor.
05.04.22 | wat |
SitarHero
05.04.22 | Wat [2]
But look on the bright side. It's open season on babies . |
Deathconscious
05.04.22 | Youre delusional, but the solution to reducing abortion for minorities isnt to take away the right to it. Also, stop pretending you care about minorities, dork. |
Keyblade
05.04.22 | human life only seems to be sacred for the first 9 months. looks like minorities are also included in this deal interestingly enough |
Drifter
05.04.22 | yes abortion is now racist and its good its gone. thank you |
Underflow
05.04.22 | brain genius |
loveisamixtape
05.04.22 | I hate being an American [2] |
LeddSledd
05.04.22 | "Democrats of the past 100 years basically said in public that abortion was implemented in order to commit a genocide on poor minorities"
if this were true conservatives would love abortions |
Underflow
05.04.22 | conservatives do love abortions but only when its for their mistresses |
Egarran
05.04.22 | So why don't some rich liberals finance a general strike? As far as I understand, the only thing holding the workers back is that they need their paycheck to live. |
Ignimbrite
05.04.22 | "if this were true conservatives would love abortions"
i hear that argument all the time and i'm stealing this comeback, absolute banger |
WeepingBanana
05.04.22 | “So why don't some rich liberals finance a general strike? As far as I understand, the only thing holding the workers back is that they need their paycheck to live.”
LOL. Why doesn’t the guy whose boot is stomping on my face just stop and also give me his boots?? |
Underflow
05.04.22 | SMH my head |
Storm In A Teacup
05.04.22 | "if this were true conservatives would love abortions"
This isnt a good comeback and no they wouldnt still be against abortiom because conservatives love poor people. Much like someone who said abortion isnt a moral issue for republicans is also wrong. It's funny seeing all this stuff and living as a watcher/"liberal" in a conservative state. |
Storm In A Teacup
05.04.22 | Because yall clearly aint gettin it. 😅🤠 |
Hyperion1001
05.04.22 | "So why don't some rich liberals finance a general strike? As far as I understand, the only thing holding the workers back is that they need their paycheck to live."
because, at the end of the day, liberals and conservatives want the same thing: endlessly exploitable labor and complete totalitarian control by the business class. the only differences between the two are minor and aesthetic.
you're kidding yourself if you think the democrats actually give a shit about roe v wade being overturned. in fact, i bet theyre salivating over all the fundraising they can do over this issue.
the only thing that matters is wealth and power. we forsook morality ages ago. |
Egarran
05.04.22 | Parties aside I imagine there could be some women who want to facilitate some kind of large-scale protest |
Keyblade
05.04.22 | prob the best thing to happen to them. like seriously, what exactly are they going to be running on in the next decade? the trusty "we're not as bad as the other guy" schtick barely even scraped them through last time and the other guy was supposed to be hitler or something |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.04.22 | piss comes out your eyes? |
Deathconscious
05.04.22 | No, its coming out of my dick. |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.04.22 | what a refreshing breeze |
botb
05.04.22 | “ the last 6,000 years of "civilization" have been possible because of the strong union of state and religion”
Bro hahahahahaha this is even funnier than the no more raw dog comment |
Storm In A Teacup
05.04.22 | Toe tall it arian |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.04.22 | #fuckresponsibly |
FR33L0RD
05.04.22 | why dont you split up in 2 countries? or many more, at this point? |
Keyblade
05.04.22 | business as usual for the pull out game monsters |
Storm In A Teacup
05.04.22 | Lots of women don't like condoms and just take birth control no monsters involved |
Purpl3Spartan
05.05.22 | I was born on the pill
1% baby checking in |
Snake.
05.05.22 | "why dont you split up in 2 countries? or many more, at this point?"
libs and conservatives only pretend that they want this but they know in their heart that their imperialistic vice-grip on the rest of the world would become weaker so never gonna happen |
Purpl3Spartan
05.05.22 | True |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | One day we will get that damn Puerto Rico election rigged correctly to make them the 51st state. |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | Honestly though as long as they remain a territory they are the old world of owning a place and not giving it representation so oh five fuck ‘em. |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | parks would be proud of me if I meant that |
FR33L0RD
05.05.22 | @Snake, indeed, fair enough. |
Deathconscious
05.05.22 | "#fuckresponsibly"
Getting an abortion is the responsible thing to do. |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | "Contraceptives, gay marriage, and interracial marriage are next on the chopping block."
uh, no.
anyway, i think abortion is ultimately wrong for very obvious moral reasons, but i don't hate people for getting it done and i can empathize with and understand their decisions |
CaliggyJack
05.05.22 | I'm anti-abortion but Ppro-choice.
Prohibition isn't the solution, it's just a gateway to far worse problems. |
Underflow
05.05.22 | There are countless morally correct reasons to get an abortion, including my personal favorite, "because i feel like it." |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | the "my body my choice" is kind of a shit argument, because it's inherently selfish. i empathize deeply with rape victims though, and i get that the decision becomes much more complicated in those cases |
Underflow
05.05.22 | Gyro are you in favor of government mandated vaccinations |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | i am not. there's no evidence to suggest that vaccination cuts transmission. if there were, i'd be more in favour of a mandate |
Underflow
05.05.22 | so its your body your choice then |
Kompys2000
05.05.22 | All the people working tirelessly to overturn roe v Wade explicitly want to turn America into a Christian theocracy. Even if you're anti-choice there are a LOT of reasons to not want these people to win anything in any capacity |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | "so its your body your choice then"
uh huh, the difference is i'm not terminating a life if i choose not to get vaccinted (which i am). it doesn't make sense to mandate a vaccine based on the evidence. so, yeah, context and what not |
Underflow
05.05.22 | pro tissue bro gyro my dude i think you are just being SELFISH |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | mhm ic |
Underflow
05.05.22 | fact is the vast majority of people who feign to give a shit about "the sanctity of life" could give no fucks whatsoever about those lives once they exit the womb. universal healthcare? nope. universal pre-k? nope. it's not a coincidence red states have the highest infant mortality rates in the country. so-called pro lifers are running a death cult. these evil motherfuckers just want meat for the meatgrinder. |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | "fact is the vast majority of people who feign to give a shit about "the sanctity of life" could give no fucks whatsoever about those lives once they exit the womb"
And you know this how? Idk how people can argue that it's morally justifiable to get to choose for someone else whether they live or not. You're alive, probably happy to be, yes? Would sure suck if you had been aborted, yes?
|
ToSmokMuzyki
05.05.22 | pleasure > children |
Underflow
05.05.22 | gyro why did you bother apologizing for being an idiot if you were just going to continue being an idiot |
Casavir
05.05.22 | "You're alive, probably happy to be, yes? Would sure suck if you had been aborted, yes?"
I wouldn't have known if I had been so that's kind of a moot point, isn't it? |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.05.22 | if only |
Underflow
05.05.22 | pee pee poo poo |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | i mean in hindsight though. i think it illustrates that all living things want to continue living. life is the most valuable thing and everyone deserves the chance to experience it |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.05.22 | nah those cell clumps can smd |
LeddSledd
05.05.22 | "everyone deserves the chance to experience it"
never understood this argument. what does a fetus know if they've been aborted? unless you're explicitly religious and believe in a soul that would continue beyond being aborted (I don't), what exactly is being lost here?
and how many of those unwanted children would go through shitty, unprepared, miserable upbringings? or through the foster care system, which speaks for itself?
or go on to be like a sizeable overlooked, underpriviliged, unlucky portion of the population? |
Underflow
05.05.22 | If fetuses are people they should exercise some personal responsibility and stop letting themselves be aborted. |
Underflow
05.05.22 | If zygotes had guns I bet they could stop this |
LeddSledd
05.05.22 | so many of these arguments are founded on the idea that human beings, who are simply being human beings that like to have sex, will be responsible and smart about sex 100% of the time and always have access to contraceptives, or, on the itty-bitty off chance that they aren't, the parents are prepared to have the child should they be forced to go through the pregnancy, or that there are proper systems in place for adoption, childcare, maternal support, etc. should this not be the case
shocker! none of these are true |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.05.22 | thats right #fuckresponsibilityjustdontgetitpregnant |
LeddSledd
05.05.22 | agreed, children should be made to suffer through parents that should've never had kids |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.05.22 | amen ban sex without a licence |
Pon
05.05.22 | "i empathize deeply with rape victims though, and i get that the decision becomes much more complicated in those cases"
It isn't complicated in the case of rape at all. If a woman (or girl) has suffered through the trauma of rape and fallen pregnant, the state forcing her to carry full-term and give birth (to a child who'll eventually learn how they were conceived and why they now exist) is an injustice. There's no ambiguity here.
Most women realise they're pregnant during a stage of development when the foetus is barely the size of a fingernail and still months from showing any indication of consciousness. It's pretty difficult to "want to continue living" when you're not even aware of your existence.
I get arguments regarding foetal viability and at what stage the baby's right must be considered and all, but the developmental stage I mentioned is when the overwhelming majority of abortions occur. If abortions are performed later on, it's almost invariably due to a medical complication, not because the mother procrastinated.
For this reason, I've never understood the "moral" reasoning for potentially allowing the state to completely revoke a woman's bodily autonomy, for the preservation of a fetus that could be terminated painlessly and spared from a life that its mother was likely unprepared to provide.
tl;dr - decision sucks |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | "agreed, children should be made to suffer through parents that should've never had kids"
republicans clearly care very deeply about children, especially when they can marry them. |
Demon of the Fall
05.05.22 | Pon's entire comment (2)
saves me the job
This entire situation is depressing, even from an outsider's perspective. |
Underflow
05.05.22 | " I've never understood the "moral" reasoning for potentially allowing the state to completely revoke a woman's bodily autonomy, for the preservation of a fetus that could be terminated painlessly and spared from a life that its mother was likely unprepared to provide."
This is because the justifications for this aren't given in good faith. They will cite their religion, yet the Bible actually has more pro-abortion passages in it than anti-abortion passages. For instance, the Bible literally says women who cheat on their husbands should take bitter water (forced miscarriage). The moral reason has always been a facade. The reason these people want to force women to carry fetuses to term is to perpetuate the authoritarian theocratic state they so desperately want with fresh meat. They'll never admit that, of course. |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | It's hilarious to me that people think saying shit like "it's not even conscious yet", or "it's the size of a grape" justifies the act. We aren't stupid, we know It WOULD be in time. It is a life that you are terminating. Telling yourself it "isn't technically even alive yet" or whatever is a bs moral loophole so people don't have to feel responsible knowing they terminated a life before it could begin. |
Underflow
05.05.22 | Gyro, who very genuinely cares about life, has undoubtedly donated much of his hard-earned money to political candidates who support universal health care, universal pre-k, and an increase to the minimum wage consistent with inflation. |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.05.22 | abort a child save a child |
Pon
05.05.22 | I didn't make the argument that it "technically isn't alive". Sperm cells are technically alive. I would've asked you to argue in good faith but I think that'll do for me. |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | Min wage increases won't do shit to counter inflation, prices will just rise again (duh), questioning how much I value life isn't a response to anything I said and just deflection, and universal healthcare isn't all it's cracked up to be. I live in Canada and it can take years to get on for certain procedures. I mean I shouldn't have even responded to this thread after reading "Contraceptives, gay marriage, and interracial marriage are next on the chopping block". you're actually fucking retarded lol. |
Underflow
05.05.22 | Nice disability slur. |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.05.22 | yea i was like wtf u mean u dont have to wait 6+ hrs to get a few stitches in the us |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | Sperm cells and a developing fetus that will result in a baby are not the same thing. Good faith eh. The technically not alive thing was just an example I see all the time. I'm js, people justify this to themselves however they want, because people are naturally bad at taking responsibility |
Jasdevi087
05.05.22 | "anyway, i think abortion is ultimately wrong for very obvious moral reasons, but i don't hate people for getting it done and i can empathize with and understand their decisions"
I've always found this take pretty backhanded tbqh |
LeddSledd
05.05.22 | Gyro, I do not equate a zygote hours after conception and a baby hours before birth on the same level of moral weight. Is every woman who takes the morning after pill a murderer? I do admit there is a certain grey area of viability a certain time into the pregnancy but the vast majority of abortions occur far before that. The possibilities of "what could have been" are irrelevant when it is a small cluster of cells that doesn't really equate to the level of life of a human being, esp when it is in the interests of the parents to not have a child when they aren't ready and for a child to not exist at all |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | "Nice disability slur."
I could just call you a dumbass if that's easier on the eyes for you |
LeddSledd
05.05.22 | "Contraceptives, gay marriage, and interracial marriage are next on the chopping block"
interracial marriage is a stretch but I have oft been surprised at how many in power want the former two eliminated |
Underflow
05.05.22 | Nah keep yourself mask off to remind everyone on this site that you're an absolute buffoon. |
Casavir
05.05.22 | "Gyro, I do not equate a zygote hours after conception and a baby hours before birth on the same level of moral weight. Is every woman who takes the morning after pill a murderer?"
Bro, I kill so many potential offspring when I masturbate holy shit it's such a power move |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.05.22 | jesus is this sput or crowder change my mind
point taken tho, more abortion=less retards |
LeddSledd
05.05.22 | Jesus Christ he already argued against it?
(re: Alito grumpy with mixed race couples) |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | "Gyro, I do not equate a zygote hours after conception and a baby hours before birth on the same level of moral weight."
It's weird isn't it? Since you have the intellectual capacity to know that, left alone, it would result in a life. The argument that "it's not alive just yet" seems irrelevant. And people saying they're "killing every time [they] masturbate" are just fucking stupid. Logical fallacy. |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.05.22 | ??? yea hes got plenty of abortion vids feel like im watching one rn |
Pon
05.05.22 | "The technically not alive thing was just an example I see all the time"
Well perhaps address what people are actually saying instead of conflating it with something they aren't.
"people justify this to themselves however they want, because people are naturally bad at taking responsibility"
Terminating a pregnancy that is the result of contraceptives failing or a (often underage) woman being raped is not a failure to take responsibility. All the best to the women in your life, Gyro. |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | "Nah keep yourself mask off to remind everyone on this site that you're an absolute buffoon."
Beats being a fucking fraud who's too stupid to ever think for himself and just parrots what other people say |
Underflow
05.05.22 | Alito's reasoning against Roe attacks much of the same reasoning that currently justifies contraception and interracial marriage, so no, I do not believe it is a "stretch" to say they could come gunning for those next. |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | The majority of abortions aren't due to rape, it's a minority of cases, so it sound spoke you're uninformed. Contraceptives like birth control fail 1 in 100 thousand times, and it's usually due to user error.
Edit misread ur post my bad |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | I tell you what, the day interracial marriage is made illegal, I'll send you a massive apology card via UPS and post a list on here about how wrong I was |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | Underflow is the person you pick to argue your beliefs if you want them to all fail. |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | I guess I could see that being true for you? Idk lol |
parksungjoon
05.05.22 | >Beats being a fucking fraud who's too stupid to ever think for himself and just parrots what other people say
LOL |
LeddSledd
05.05.22 | The absurdity of the idea that "sperm and egg are now united, any attempt to interfere with this developing zygote/fetus becoming a child is unequivocally bad and murderous" far outweighs the knowledge of the end result of conception. I'm not dumb, I know how this works. There are a lot more moral scales to factor in here so, to me, the option of available abortion is a more just outcome |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | Imagine if your mom thought that and you were never born |
Underflow
05.05.22 | "Beats being a fucking fraud who's too stupid to ever think for himself and just parrots what other people say"
The sheer irony of this coming from someone who has spent most of his sput career spewing right wing talking points is palpable. |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | Abortion is morally fine in the first month. Abortion at like 4 months is a lil weird. Abortion at 8 months would be gnarley. |
LeddSledd
05.05.22 | "Imagine if your mom thought that and you were never born"
I can't, because I wouldn't be able to. And honestly, I don't really care. No one would know how life would be with me if didnt exist. I could theorize about all the little brothers and sisters or aunts and uncles or cousins I could have had, but it's ultimately pointless |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.05.22 | new york has entered the chat |
Pon
05.05.22 | "Imagine ... you were never born"
https://c.tenor.com/iMF4Z8Stb8cAAAAC/nicholas-cage.gif |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | You wouldn't be able to because some cunt decided your life didn't mean shit and was too much of an inconvenience to them. All living things want to live and should be afforded the chance to just as you and I were. Why is that so hard to rationalize? |
Casavir
05.05.22 | "You wouldn't be able to because some cunt decided your life didn't mean shit and was too much of an inconvenience to them."
lmaaaoooo |
Demon of the Fall
05.05.22 | 'Imagine if your mom thought that and you were never born'
I've attempted to imagine being dead on numerous occasions, the problem is it is literally impossible to consciously think about not having consciousness. So yeah, can't say I'd be too bothered in all honesty. |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.05.22 | agreed ledd should have been sent to the space dust early |
Underflow
05.05.22 | I would hate to be a woman in Gyro's life. |
LeddSledd
05.05.22 | finally, a Muzyki take i agree with! |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.05.22 | lmao so when do we get to elon and twitter |
LeddSledd
05.05.22 | "You wouldn't be able to because some cunt decided your life didn't mean shit and was too much of an inconvenience to them"
hey that's my mom 😡 also, who cares??? the reason she and my dad chose to have me was bc they were in a stable enough financial and emotional state to do so (thank you!) Many, including my mother, are not so lucky |
Underflow
05.05.22 | Amazing how quickly Gyro went from "i can empathize with and understand their decisions" to calling women who get abortions "cunt" |
LeddSledd
05.05.22 | "lmao so when do we get to elon and twitter"
if you're an elon fanboy I swear |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | I was brought up in poverty and I struggle hard financially today. Also had to call the cops on my parents many times growing up and lost them both in my early 20s. Still happy to be alive rn, getting to see underflow misconstrue and get triggered by everything I say itt |
Underflow
05.05.22 | damn i hope you find them |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | For clarity underflow, I can empathize with cunts |
Jasdevi087
05.05.22 | "Imagine if your mom thought that and you were never born"
his mum probably had him on purpose tho?
"I was brought up in poverty and I struggle hard financially today. Also had to call the cops on my parents many times growing up and lost them both in my early 20s. Still happy to be alive rn, getting to see underflow misconstrue and get triggered by everything I say itt"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.05.22 | damn what an irony, child of good parents favours abortion, child of bad doesnt
and if i do favour the south african hmmm? |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias"
I don't think that applies the way you think it does. |
Egarran
05.05.22 | I guess by some cosmic law there has to one pro-lifer in these debates. |
LeddSledd
05.05.22 | I'm sorry that you had to endure that, and glad that you're at a better place today. But, as callous as it sounds, giving the parents the option to prevent potential suffering on theirs and their child's behalf sounds a lot more reasonable to me then taking away that option and leaving it up to fate, especially in a reality of such poor support systems in place for the disadvantaged and unlucky. just for a similar silly question we can't really answer, who's to say how many poor upbringings could have been prevented, and better upbringings brought about, had abortion been an option for the parent? |
Jasdevi087
05.05.22 | "I don't think that applies the way you think it does."
I don't think it doesn't apply the way you think it doesn't |
Gyromania
05.05.22 | Survivorship bias actually works more iny favour here. "the logical error of concentrating on the people or things that made it past some selection process and overlooking those that did not, typically because of their lack of visibility."
Overlooking those that did not, in this case all the aborted fetuses. I mean how were you trying to apply this to what I said in that paragraph though? |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | https://youtu.be/h4TaFlZndFw |
Jasdevi087
05.05.22 | "Overlooking those that did not, in this case all the aborted fetuses. I mean how were you trying to apply this to what I said in that paragraph though?"
you're actually misappropriating your example here. "those that did not" in this example, is not the aborted foetuses, although that would be brilliant for you trying to defend your own position. the "those that did not" are the people who did not survive traumatic upbringings, or who have done such as yourself, but are not as content with their lot as yourself, perhaps to the extent they consider suicide.
in general, you're arguing from a pretty weak position, considering you're your own self-assessment example
EDIT: you aren't an example of an aborted foetus, you're an example of a foetus carried to term (without controlling for wanted or unwanted pregnancies)
EDIT 2: lol don't follow that flug link, it's just a vaush video |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.05.22 | https://youtu.be/8nhXQS5UUGQ
dont follow this one either |
Demon of the Fall
05.05.22 | of all the things to wonder re this topic, my lamenting of the fact the OP didn't use Dying Fetus for the album ^ is probably not something I should have ever considered
but yeah... why not? |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | "lol don't follow that flug link, it's just a vaush video"
VDS moment |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.05.22 | ew vaush |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | Posting vaush always exposes all the braindead leftoids.
If you got a problem with the content of the video you can point it out and we can talk about it.
Good thing I'm not as dogmatic as a large portion of the online left. I'm also not about to fraternize with gyro types over the herd mentality of a good portion of the online left because right wingers are even more dispicable and I work with a morally consistent framework. |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.05.22 | Right wingers being even more despicable than liberals isn’t a good reason to support liberals, see: 2016 election.
And why listen to Vaush when there’s Hasan. |
Snake.
05.05.22 | vaush is literally just liberal alex jones |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | idk where liberals came into the conversation here, i talked about online lefties.
also hasan is a dumbfuck if his recent ukraine meltdown is any indication to you. |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.05.22 | Vaush is a liberal |
Cimnele
05.05.22 | entertainment leftism innoculates the section of my brain that'd retain any kind of organizeable wisdom aaagh its amazing how far vaush drives me up the wall considering he has basically no personality |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.05.22 | if ur gonna listen to a dorky liberal at least go with Sam Seder. Vaush is just fucking insufferable to me |
marksellsuswallets
05.05.22 | Matt French grab a nut before you argue online for 3 hours challenge: level impossible |
Underflow
05.05.22 | "Right wingers being even more despicable than liberals isn’t a good reason to support liberals, see: 2016 election."
I consider myself a leftist. I believe the workers should have ownership of the companies they work for, that the workplace should be a democracy, that healthcare is a human right and should be free, that the entire institution of policing needs to be torn down and rebuilt from the ground up, that abortion should be legal under any circumstances, that weed should be federally legalized and all people who were incarcerated for possession should be given reparations.
I do not think the fact that i live in a swing state, and the fact that I believe in harm reduction, and the fact that I applied that idea to my decision to hold my nose and vote for Clinton in 2016 means I "support" liberals. I support minimizing the damage done to women, communities of color, etc.If that means voting for someone who would be less likely to get two to three supreme court vacancies and fill those vacanies with theocratic nutjobs, then so be it. |
WeepingBanana
05.05.22 | Gyro’s brain is a bowl of cheese curds |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.05.22 | I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with harm reduction. Hell, if I didn’t live in a deep red state I probably would’ve went out and voted for Clinton.
What I’m getting at is people need someone to vote for, not just something to vote against. That’s why Clinton lost. |
Underflow
05.05.22 | Ok, cool. I do agree with you there. |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | based undeflow take.
If you see a leftie mindlessly screaming liberal the second they see a take that is more nuanced and less tankie than themselves you know you found someone who just enjoys being in an in-group. |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | Unrelated but Pro life itself sounds like a good guy term and abortion sounds like a bad guy term. |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | This thread has helped me understand why gyro has such bad taste in music 69% of the time. |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | Being an unironic bearnie-or-bust type puts you on the same line of reasoning as the often memed about posadist ideology, in my view. |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | "Unrelated but Pro life itself sounds like a good guy term and abortion sounds like a bad guy term."
oh yeah the semantic mental image these terms invoke are completely fucked and right wingers are unfortunately very good at exploiting this problem. |
Underflow
05.05.22 | It should not be called pro life, because none of those shit weasels support anything that would actually better any lives. It's pro forced birth. |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | this is true. |
Underflow
05.05.22 | https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2022/may/05/democrats-abortion-rights-midterms-roe-v-wade-joe-biden-us-politics-latest |
Orb
05.05.22 | Hot tub sales are gonna skyrocket. |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | this is good. |
Odal
05.05.22 | Holy shit, sputnik's politics are dumb as hell.
Liberals are bad and stupid, and voting is insufficient by itself to bring about change, but you should absolutely vote for a liberal over a republican. Harm reduction is very real. Things are bad now, can you imagine how much worse it would be under Trump again? If Hillary Clinton won in 2016, the current supreme court would not be this ghoulish. Like, how stupid and selfish do you have to be to proclaim that you'll do anything to further the cause but you won't vote just because your ideal candidate didn't make the ballot? Voting isn't dating and until we have ranked choice, you have to go the harm reduction route.
On a less related note, calling Vaush a liberal is dumb as hell. He's grown off me a bit lately, but I think he's a more sensible advocate for the left than Hasan and would infinitely take him over Destiny as the posterboy for online politics |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | based user odal with the truth. |
Odal
05.05.22 | Gyro how many kids you adopt bro |
Trebor.
05.05.22 | Every time Gyro steps on a caterpillar he screams "Oh my God, I've killed a butterfly!" |
Underflow
05.05.22 | lmao |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | kek |
Trebor.
05.05.22 | Also the whole existence thing is too wild to even try to think about like "what if you hadn't been born" because if your dad had busted a fraction of a second earlier or later you wouldn't exist because a different sperm would make it to the egg |
Keyblade
05.05.22 | everybody itt has caught more bodies than hitler |
Odal
05.05.22 | "what if you were aborted" is such a stupid cop out but I do make it a point to say sorry to my pile of nut after I have a good wank just in case |
Trebor.
05.05.22 | Also if you prescribe to a religion where aborted fetuses don't automatically go to heaven then it's your religion that's fucked up
And if they do automatically go to heaven then what's the big deal anyway |
Keyblade
05.05.22 | feeling like genghis khan every time I bust |
Snake.
05.05.22 | "If Hillary Clinton won in 2016, the current supreme court would not be this ghoulish."
painfully delusional take |
mrdogthrow
05.05.22 | hahahahahahah this place sucks |
Odal
05.05.22 |
Snake, don't be stupid |
Trebor.
05.05.22 | If Hilary had won she would have made sure RBG got her weekly adrenochrome injections and she'd still be alive |
Odal
05.05.22 | ^^^ |
deathofasalesman
05.05.22 | ayo i'm an abortion that survived. any other survivors in the chat? |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | "Also if you prescribe to a religion where aborted fetuses don't automatically go to heaven then it's your religion that's fucked up
And if they do automatically go to heaven then what's the big deal anyway"
shouldn't the religion preach early abortion for all then? I mean isn't the goal of all that shit to get as many virtuos people into heaven as possible? lol religion. |
Underflow
05.05.22 | "houldn't the religion preach early abortion for all then? I mean isn't the goal of all that shit to get as many virtuos people into heaven as possible? lol religion.
the "religious" right doesn't actually care about any of this, its all a thinly veiled justification for inflicting pain and suffering on people they don't like |
Odal
05.05.22 | Trying to rationalize or justify the GOP is a quick way to go insane lol |
Keyblade
05.05.22 | idk about christianity but I know islam allows abortion up til the first trimester + life threatening circumstances for the mother, and I believe judaism is the same. wouldn't be surprised if this is some shit the american right completely made up lol |
Underflow
05.05.22 | "idk about christianity but I know islam allows abortion up til the first trimester + life threatening circumstances for the mother, and I believe judaism is the same. wouldn't be surprised if this is some shit the american right completely made up lol"
this is in fact the case, yes |
TheWr3tched
05.05.22 | "the "religious" right doesn't actually care about any of this, its all a thinly veiled justification for inflicting pain and suffering on people they don't like"
Yeah, @Underflow, I think its a combo of that along with their primal fear that the younger generation don't want to/won't want to have children. So, their machine will come grinding to a halt, and we can't have that now can we? So, lets go ahead and throw another few babies into the "we will profit from you for life" hopper. |
DavidYowi
05.05.22 | “Voting isn't dating and until we have ranked choice, you have to go the harm reduction route.”
Ok but this is happening under a liberal leadership. Why vote for these shitheads if they’re not actually gonna reduce any harm done by republicans. If it turns out that the next presidential election has the lowest voter turnout in decades I wouldn’t be surprised. |
mechamagica
05.05.22 | it's ok not to have an opinion on politics |
Cimnele
05.05.22 | you have to stop punishing near-powerless people for not voting for lesser-of-two-evil groups designed to prevent satisfying options appearing |
Odal
05.05.22 | @DavidYowi
Correct. This is happening under liberal politics and we shouldn't accept it. Fuck Biden, Fuck Pelosi, and fuck the Dems. That being said, it would be worse under conservatives. Again, if Hillary won over Trump the court would likely still be ass but I would be very confident in saying that abortion rights wouldn't be on the table like they are now (obligatory fuck Ginsberg for not retiring). Accelerationism doesn't work and advocating for it means you are willing to throw away lives. We get to the things I want a lot easier with liberals than with conservatives. Bernie had better numbers in 2016 than he did in 2020. Why? Because people saw that Obama/liberal politics don't work and wanted a change. In 2020, people were fearing outright fascism and autocracy.
I hate dems as much as anyone, but I believe in harm reduction and you sure as shit get a worse country under republicans.
|
mezzimite
05.05.22 | imo Gyro’s brain is nothing like cheese curds cause cheese curds have made a human satisfied ever
Xtian join mezz, we thirty flirty and thriving in discord |
Deathconscious
05.05.22 | "pleasure > children"
Agreed, thats why you get rid of it before its a child. |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | "the "religious" right doesn't actually care about any of this, its all a thinly veiled justification for inflicting pain and suffering on people they don't like"
oh yeah definitely, was just making a joke lol. |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | "you have to stop punishing near-powerless people for not voting for lesser-of-two-evil groups designed to prevent satisfying options appearing"
who does the punishing in this case, exactly? |
Underflow
05.05.22 | https://www.axios.com/2022/05/02/mark-esper-book-trump-protesters
"BoTH sIdEs ArE eXaClTy ThE SaMe" |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.05.22 | jesus christ death how did u end up being the books thread when u cant read for shit lmao
also cheese curds are amazing |
Chambered79
05.05.22 | cool thread |
ratcatbaby
05.05.22 | imagine advocating voting for someone as corrupt and wicked as the Clintons haha |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | Imagine people choosing hillary and joe over bernie oh wait. 🤕 |
arf
05.05.22 | where's the libertarians when you need them to tell us that abortion is murder but the state has no business in regulating it |
budgie
05.05.22 | looked up this vaush character
"In 2019, he was banned from Twitch for saying that the US should invade Israel in defense of Palestinians"
god damn north american political discourse is retarded if this guy is a notable figure for "the left" |
Odal
05.05.22 | Sputnikers have better politics than 14 years old challenge (IMPOSSIBLE) ( GONE SEXUAL)
I voted for Bernie. He failed. I voted for Biden. I would've voted for Mayor Pete or even fuckin Bloomberg over Trump because it would've reduced harm, however small, in comparison to Trump. When it comes to national politicians, you aren't voting for someone to be your friend, or even your representative. You are voting on who is going to be your enemy. And in that pursuit, voting dem is infinitely better than republicans. Areas that have limp-dicked libs are a helluva lot easier to get in actually progressive candidates and policies than areas that are red. Don't just vote, do a lot more than that. But comparatively, voting is such an easy thing to do and it is so cringe that so many people larp as that gigabrained revolutionaries while all the only thing they actually do is pointless doomerism and bang on pots and pans that they are the most anti-liberal lefty. |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | What |
Odal
05.05.22 | @budgie
he got banned from twitch for saying that Israel should be bombed for their treatment of Palestinians, not that the US should invade them lol He is a very contentious character online, a lot of things that have been written about him are extremely uncharitable or downright in bad faith. |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | I dont think he's popular or mainstream so can't be considered notable. Never heard of him until this and he doesn't have numbers to suggest notoriety. Fringe at best. |
Odal
05.05.22 | He is literally trending on twitter pretty much every day and is the largest leftist streamer other than Hasan lol He is not fringe |
arf
05.05.22 | "he is popular among the terminally online therefore he can't be fringe"
I have bad news for you |
budgie
05.05.22 | pity
ill stick to democracynow
people with sociology degrees from humboldt state debating altright talking heads on twitch or whatever should not be the largest anything |
Odal
05.05.22 | If you are reading this thread on a janky music website dedicated to mostly metal music, then I have news for you: you're terminally online |
Odal
05.05.22 | @budgie
he was talking in hyperbole lol come on now. Fuck Israel tho fr |
mechamagica
05.05.22 | its ok not to bring up vowsh in random threads about roe v wade |
arf
05.05.22 | well, at least I'm aware that I'm terminally online myself |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | I think people think what trends on twitte4 is mainstream lol |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | Imagine a bunch of kids and people needing a hobby watching someone play videogames and consider that mainstream |
Odal
05.05.22 | Are you seriously saying that twitter isn't mainstream and shitting on people who watch streamers on a music forum site lol |
budgie
05.05.22 | "I think people think what trends on twitte4 is mainstream lol" im old like you and dont use twitter but im pretty sure twitter is well established as a de facto news platform. like fbook. and fox. lol |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | "Are you seriously saying that twitter isn't mainstream and shitting on people who watch streamers on a music forum site lol"
People who don't have full time jobs don't count as a power in the real world. |
botb
05.05.22 | What is happening in this thread these days |
Odal
05.05.22 | you don't think these mediums have an effect on people's worldviews? People downplayed social media for a long time until all of the sudden it seemed to have real world implications out of nowhere. |
Egarran
05.05.22 | You know, Biden could do pretty much anything if he prefaced it with 'Unless God has an objection, this is what we'll do:'
Religious people would be powerless against that. |
Keyblade
05.05.22 | call him vince carter the way he can 360 |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | Correct and the corners of the internet have been formed and studied now for over a decade. |
Odal
05.05.22 | idk, the religious right accepted Trump and that makes....no sense lol |
Keyblade
05.05.22 | they'd also go against God if Joe Biden said He said something lol |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | Trump was sent by God and doesn't need to make sense. |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | I have heard trump called lord trump a couple times here in Oklahoma |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | "its ok not to bring up vowsh in random threads about roe v wade"
He just uploaded a video thematically relevant to this thread while I read through here so I decided to post the link. Of course I was aware about what shitstorm might result from that.
Accept it or not, political streamers have a big influence these days. That being said, I've been around that rabbit hole for about four years now and can say with confidence that vaush is the one single figure with the most integrity while still maintaining a high level of entertainment value. Yes he had his controversies, most blown way out of proportions, some definitely faults of his own. But hell, who wouldn't make some mistakes while streaming 5h+ every day for 3 years. |
Egarran
05.05.22 | Trump did indeed check a pretty big number of antichrist boxes
https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/ |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | Sounds virginish |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | Ega doesn't apply to what i said about jobless ppl. Ega is 😛😍 |
Odal
05.05.22 | Storm, man, it's okay to not know about something and just move on without disparaging it. Just sounds very Old Man Yells At Cloud |
Underflow
05.05.22 | https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/05/texas-gop-governor-considers-challenging-1982-ruling-requiring-free-public-education
"lOl tHeYrE NoT gOnNa CoMe fOr YouR RiGhTs" |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | This is about this vaush guy being compared to the giant monster that was alex jones. I do know. |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | a fairly ridiculous comparison. |
Keyblade
05.05.22 | there's nobody on the left comparable to jones tho |
Odal
05.05.22 | Jimmy Dore is kind of there, but the thing is that any large lefty who goes the Jones route usually takes up rightwing talking points, which is what Dore has kind of done. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.05.22 | Petition to abort U.S.A. Tbh |
Underflow
05.05.22 | inb4 Gyro says "uhhh actually getting rid of free public education is a good thing" |
Egarran
05.05.22 | >Petition to abort U.S.A. Tbh
I hear that's on Putin's table |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | Yeah Dore is the only figure coming to mind who could even begin to compare. Hes still far from absolute unhingedness, as much as I dislike the guy. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.05.22 | Yeah I was pretty appalled by the prospect of nuclear war but the USA continues to make a compelling argument in favour of nuking the planet |
Keyblade
05.05.22 | it's funny because dore is prob best known for spitting on jones |
Jasdevi087
05.05.22 | "there's nobody on the left comparable to jones tho"
Caleb Maupin? |
Deathconscious
05.05.22 | "jesus christ death how did u end up being the books thread when u cant read for shit lmao"
Are you being dense on purpose, or? |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | @jasdevi if you want to consider a russia shill part of the left? idk but i consider such types basically equivalent to fascists, just like, you know, with a red paintjob. |
Jasdevi087
05.05.22 | you can be on the left and still be a monster. gosh, if only I could think of some monstrous leaders on the left... |
Odal
05.05.22 | Caleb Maupin is, quite literally, a Russian mouthpiece |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | Not the same thing jas. Monster as in the effects Jones had. Sandy Hook. Aliens running the planet. Etc. |
Jasdevi087
05.05.22 | i would generally agree there is no analogue for Jones on the left, i was just trying to see how close it gets |
Underflow
05.05.22 | If nothing else you gotta give the far right credit, with this one they have finaly, truly "triggered the libs." |
Jasdevi087
05.05.22 | they've done a little trolling |
Egarran
05.05.22 | "Only the US forces you to give birth while forcing you to pay tens of thousands of dollars to give birth while not letting you have time off to give birth." |
Deathconscious
05.05.22 | Is Maupin really on the left though? Isnt he just red fash?
Edit: lol i see this has already been said. |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.05.22 | death every time i see u post anything i ask myself the same thing, and it turns out its just how u are
anyway a potato talking about god would be truly miraculous indeed |
Deathconscious
05.05.22 | No u |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.05.22 | Trudeau says he’ll let y’all come get aborted up north as your shit hole country continues to degrade human rights but Trudeau says a lot of things so take it with a grain a salt |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.05.22 | With the current state of the medical fields up here rn you’ll probably be put on a 9 month wait list |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.05.22 | did we rly have to bring derpneau into this
joe mama |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.05.22 | “ derpneau”
|
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | Turdeau sounds better |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.05.22 | It’s definitely an improvement |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.05.22 | merde-eau |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.05.22 | It still doesn’t quite roll off the tongue but at least it’s topical |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.05.22 | Really a double rhyme is ideal
Like Poobleau |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.05.22 | Dustbin Poobleau |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | Trustin Judeau |
ArsMoriendi
05.05.22 | The US has some cool places though, like New York and...New York and... uh uh idk Washington state is probably also ok |
Storm In A Teacup
05.05.22 | I think mine is besticles. |
Underflow
05.05.22 | The hero we need right now:
https://imgur.com/XSnL825
The only thing he did wrong was stop |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.05.22 | Most of my US my fam is in NY so I guess y’all can have a nuke force field |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.05.22 | How bout we just swap NY and Quebec and bombs away |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.05.22 | I’m not opposed to trading Manitoba either
Or Ontario
Or Saskatchewan or Alberta or basically any of them |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.05.22 | Open to suggestions |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.05.22 | take none of it |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.05.22 | Can I still give some? |
Flugmorph
05.05.22 | I'll take british columbia off of you. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.05.22 | I come with that unfortunately |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.06.22 | i said take nunavut
and u call urself canadian smh |
Flugmorph
05.06.22 | pots-inclusive. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.06.22 | Never herdavut |
Underflow
05.06.22 | Just think that as angry as this makes people who value bodily autonomy the people who are overjoyed with this decision feel the exact same way every time they see a gay couple in a super bowl commercial |
Snake.
05.06.22 | "Most of my US my fam is in NY so I guess y’all can have a nuke force field"
you sure you wanna spare greenlinkinmuse of all people |
Storm In A Teacup
05.06.22 | That’s fucked up man |
Meridiu5
05.06.22 | there's nobody on the left comparable to jones tho
cenk uygur |
Keyblade
05.06.22 | |
Flugmorph
05.06.22 | lmao |
Storm In A Teacup
05.07.22 | Lol |
Chambered79
05.07.22 | The US has some cool places though, like New York and...New York and...
you don't live here do you |
Meridiu5
05.08.22 | rofl |
Egarran
05.08.22 | Yeah NY is not that cool |
ReefaJones
05.08.22 | lmao @ all the "bernie or bust" bros crying now when they played a big part in making it possible for the republicans to take the majority in the supreme court. This is what you get fucktards |
Egarran
05.08.22 | ^Sounds like victim blaming |
ReefaJones
05.08.22 | retard blaming |
Flugmorph
05.08.22 | r slur drop letsgooooooooooooo |
ReefaJones
05.08.22 | r slur? Are you 12 years old? |
SitarHero
05.08.22 | Are you? |
ReefaJones
05.08.22 | yes gigachad |
Flugmorph
05.08.22 | 7 actually, please don't groom me |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.08.22 | “lmao @ all the "bernie or bust" bros crying now when they played a big part in making it possible for the republicans to take the majority in the supreme court. This is what you get fucktards”
dogshit take |
ReefaJones
05.08.22 | based take |
Cimnele
05.08.22 | sleeping since 2016 take |
Odal
05.08.22 | I don't think the Bernie or Bust people deserve that much respect so as to attribute the 2016 loss to them. There's plenty of blame to go around and dems failing to galvanize their base with a historically terrible candidate (and failure to learn ANYTHING from this) is much more deserving of ire.
That being said, I don't respect Bernie or Busters lol |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.08.22 | [2]
Democrats really want to keep trying to get republican votes but then get pissy at the left when they inevitably lose |
Odal
05.08.22 | They are already prepping the storylines to blame progressives for the slaughter that's gonna happen this fall instead of doing shit. Shameful lol |
ReefaJones
05.08.22 | socialist dipshit progressives need to realize that
1. Their positions are not nearly as popular as they think
2. Local elections are important
3. They actually need to get their asses out of their white affluent suburban communities to vote instead of virtue signaling on twitter |
Flugmorph
05.08.22 | and they should call others retards a bunch more too |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.08.22 | i certainly blame u all
retards |
ReefaJones
05.08.22 | Oh no he said it. The r slur! |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.08.22 | RACIST |
Flugmorph
05.08.22 | based |
Underflow
05.08.22 | https://www.businessinsider.com/arizona-gop-senate-candidate-blake-masters-campaigning-against-birth-control-2022-5
It begins. |
Flugmorph
05.08.22 | trying to ban all condoms for non-married people is actual crackhead pure evil tier. |
Underflow
05.08.22 | So just average, modern conservatism then. |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.08.22 | i want to ban condoms for birds. need more birds. |
Deathconscious
05.08.22 | "lmao @ all the 'bernie or bust' bros crying now when they played a big part in making it possible for the republicans to take the majority in the supreme court. This is what you get fucktards"
Bernie or bust was cringe, but so is this attitude. |
Deathconscious
05.08.22 | "socialist dipshit progressives need to realize that
1. Their positions are not nearly as popular as they think
2. Local elections are important
3. They actually need to get their asses out of their white affluent suburban communities to vote instead of virtue signaling on twitter"
Again, true, but the way its delivered is cringe. |
Egarran
05.08.22 | Didn't even know people still say 'dipshit'. |
Purpl3Spartan
05.08.22 | Anti abortion yet still pro choice gang |
ReefaJones
05.08.22 | Pro abortion but anti women's rights gang |
Deathconscious
05.08.22 | I like "dipshit," its satisfying. |
Storm In A Teacup
05.08.22 | There is a republican Blake Masters running for senate in Arizona that wants to ban both abortion and birth control lmao |
TVC15
05.08.22 | Ngl I’m pretty surprised this thread has lasted as long as it has without getting nuked |
Purpl3Spartan
05.08.22 | if birth control gets banned, there’s probably money to be made that people will take advantage of |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.08.22 | needs more REEEE tbh |
budgie
05.08.22 | "socialist dipshit progressives need to realize that
1. Their positions are not nearly as popular as they think"
germany had a conservative leader for 30 years and codetermination laws were never threatened. socialist positions are wildly more popular than you appear to believe |
Storm In A Teacup
05.08.22 | Americans are so fucking dumb we really take the cake. |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.08.22 | germany also has a 4th of the ppl and the biggest baggage in history sooooo |
Drifter
05.08.22 | vote blue no matter who |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.08.22 | bomb jiden is my hero |
zaruyache
05.08.22 | socialist and pro-labor positions are always more popular when you just don't call them that, and say they're about working class rights instead. |
Odal
05.08.22 | we just gotta call socialism "Super Capitalism" and we win imo |
budgie
05.08.22 | what the fuck does codetermination have to do with population size |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.08.22 | ??? far less ppl to get in the way + united under a common shame what the fuck else |
budgie
05.08.22 | are........ you retarded |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.08.22 | apparently u are its a pretty simple equation |
budgie
05.08.22 | codetermination governs private firms it has less than fuck to do with a state's population |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.08.22 | jesus christ all i was saying was more ppl the more complicated it gets and there isnt any where more so than the states idk what was so difficult about that |
budgie
05.08.22 | you have no idea what youre even pretending to talk about |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.08.22 | lmao i made a simple statement and u want to go all polisci prof ok bro |
Drifter
05.08.22 | what is codetermination |
budgie
05.08.22 | type of state policy that mandates firms within a chosen set of parameters have to have a certain portion of their board of directors elected by workers |
budgie
05.08.22 | but more loosely it's just worker agency / representation in larger firms |
Supercoolguy64
05.08.22 | Always weird when people bring up Bernie sanders in times like these lol |
Storm In A Teacup
05.08.22 | Not really that weird. |
ReefaJones
05.08.22 | yeah how is it weird? Also I brought up a subset of his redacted followers |
Storm In A Teacup
05.08.22 | Im glad budgie is here to offset the stupidity |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.08.22 | or pile it on rather |
Deathconscious
05.08.22 | Or rather ...ADD to it! 😏 |
rufinthefury
05.08.22 | GOP continues to be evil incarnate, news at 11. |
Lord(e)Po)))ts
05.09.22 | Budgie really showing his colours today, Peterson simp, ableist bigot, and nazi fetishizer all rolled up in one malnourished package |
Odal
05.09.22 | ya hate to see it |
ArsMoriendi
05.09.22 | Why would anyone be a Peterson simp, that dude actually lost his mind |
Underflow
05.09.22 | Peterson sucks |
budgie
05.09.22 | lmaooooo |
Tyler.
05.09.22 | yikes |
rufinthefury
05.09.22 | Peterson fans are actually pathetic lmfao
worse than Elon fanboys, but it's close |
ReefaJones
05.09.22 | Elon haters and Elon simps are equally as annoying tbh |
Underflow
05.09.22 | There's actually good reason to dislike Elon, whereas there are exactly zero reasons to like him. |
ReefaJones
05.09.22 | Sure there might be reasons to dislike him but people online literally obsess over him |
budgie
05.09.22 | "worse than Elon fanboys, but it's close
yeah it's not close at all. peterson peddles literal nazi propaganda with his shtick about clandestine communist forces mucking about in universities working to destroy noble western culture lol it's on an entirely different level of insanity. elons fans are just starry eyed libertarians |
zaruyache
05.09.22 | well i mean i've seen his tweets and lemme tell ya if i had a billion dollars and a business to run i'd not be boomer posting there all day like a loser |
budgie
05.09.22 | my pet theory is grimes introduced him to speed and now he's a fuckin fiend. explains away his deranged social media activity |
Odal
05.09.22 | There's actually good reason to dislike Elon, whereas there are exactly zero reasons to like him. [2] |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.09.22 | well he’s a fuckin billionaire for one, and that whole thing with the cobalt mines. So why not fucking hate both of them |
ReefaJones
05.09.22 | oh no the evil billionaires |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.09.22 | I can see you’re being sarcastic since I can see the boot in your mouth from here |
ReefaJones
05.09.22 | Cut a lib and a fascist bleeds am I right? |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.09.22 | fucking A |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.09.22 | His cars are overpriced dogshit too |
zaruyache
05.09.22 | he's an advocate for couping governments that won't sell tesla enough nat resources, even as a shitpost that's a bit far for a decent human being to do. |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.09.22 | among many other reasons to hate that douchebag
“We‘ll coup whoever we want!”
Fuck him |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.09.22 | well i mean i've seen his tweets and lemme tell ya if i had a billion dollars and a business to run i'd not be boomer posting there all day like a loser
instead ur on here with zero dollars no job and posting on here like a loser LOL |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.09.22 | lol when I saw your name I knew it was gonna be some dumb shit so congrats for having some of the worst takes in this thread |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.09.22 | do u always talk into a mirror
id think u even k what a take is |
budgie
05.09.22 | idk i think muzyki is endearing in a pet turtle that keeps running into the wall of his cage sort of way |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.09.22 | why am i in a cage |
budgie
05.09.22 | so u dont flyu away dummy |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.09.22 | turtles need tanks u birdbrain
unless im one of these https://www.giantbomb.com/koopa-paratroopa/3015-2558/ |
budgie
05.09.22 | u can have a t-34 bc ur a commie |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.09.22 | cool tanks |
sonictheplumber
05.09.22 | abortion rules |
sonictheplumber
05.09.22 | elon musk drools |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.09.22 | X AE A-XII will prob wish he was aborted |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.09.22 | got his ass sonic |
budgie
05.09.22 | The couple have previously explained the meaning behind the name, breaking it down into its component elements.
Apparently, "X" represents the "unknown variable".
"Æ" is the "elven spelling" of "Ai", which means love in Chinese - and is also an acronym for artificial intelligence.
And the "A-12" is their "favourite aircraft".
Speaking on the Joe Rogan podcast several days after the baby's birth, SpaceX founder Musk explained how to pronounce the name: "It's just X, the letter X. And then, the Æ is, like, pronounced 'Ash'. And then, A-12."
However, Grimes has previously told fans the Æ is pronounced like the two letters.
Æ is originally a Latin symbol, with some pronouncing it as "ash" and others as the letters A and E, which may explain the confusion.
Musk has said the unusual name was Grimes' idea, but that the A-12 bit was his contribution. He's yet to say whether he's a fan of the Roman numerals.
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sonictheplumber
05.09.22 | i encourage everyone to stop voting |
SitarHero
05.09.22 | Lmao can we take a second to appreciate Budgie shitting on smok and smok sitting there pretending theyre not covered in birdshit and hoping no one else notices? |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.09.22 | take 60 seconds please |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.09.22 | so his name means 'unknown love we had once in the a-12 plane' |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.09.22 | at least people are calling me by my proper substantive now 'muzyki' just means music u dumbasses |
budgie
05.09.22 | i did3 no such things
'muzyki' just means music u dumbasses"
how u expect me to know that |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.09.22 | To. The. Smok. Dragon. Muzyki. Of Music.
The Music Dragon. bc i breath fire on all ur favorite shit |
SitarHero
05.09.22 | tfw you're trying to represent your Polish heritage but everyone just thinks you're a dyslexic pothead. |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.09.22 | im not polish actually just admire the language and people
tfw every1 reads everything at face value so u shitpost cuz theres no point in anything else |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.09.22 | So you’re a polish weeb
I’ve never heard of that before |
budgie
05.09.22 | tfw every1 reads everything at face value so u shitpost cuz theres no point in anything else
i feel this i feel this |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.09.22 | more like a polish simp i fell in love with one
when i say admire i mean ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) admire |
Intothepit
05.10.22 | If you are a conservative, you're the problem. If you identify with the liberals and the left, guess what? You're just as much of a problem. In simplified terms, democrats are just conservative lite, same great taste, but only half the white male supremacy you get from other idiots
Burn it all down and start the fuck over. That's the only way we find a solution. |
Colton
05.10.22 | do ppl feel like they did something when they give a take like that |
Intothepit
05.10.22 | Probably more than you've ever done in your life. |
Colton
05.10.22 | ok so the answer is yes |
budgie
05.10.22 | colton whats the best cheese to put on nachos |
Colton
05.10.22 | aged cheddar. maybe a bit of parmaganno ramaganno for some extra flavour |
budgie
05.10.22 | fuck me parmesan nachos sound legit |
Flugmorph
05.10.22 | posadist gang |
Odal
05.10.22 | ah, yes, burning it all down is a lot more sensible than finding out what the difference between liberals and leftists is |
LukeN4HisDestNE
05.10.22 | I vote for civil discussions where two people who disagree on a topic can walk away learning something from the other without rage quitting. |
Odal
05.10.22 | Liberal civility has famously worked very well for this country for the last 50 or so years |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.10.22 | “I vote for civil discussions where two people who disagree on a topic can walk away learning something from the other without rage quitting.”
I want to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and hear the lamentations of their women
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budgie
05.10.22 | "Liberal civility has famously worked very well for this country for the last 50 or so years"
southern strategy started in like 1980. guess thats coming up on 50 years huh |
FRONZ
05.10.22 | Lol |
Meridiu5
05.10.22 | I vote for civil discussions where two people who disagree on a topic can walk away learning something from the other without rage quitting.
This isn't possible because one philosophy usually undoes all of the work of the other. You can't be libertine and disciplined at the same time. The choices are mutually exclusive. When one is popular, the other is demonized inherently. |
Odal
05.10.22 | okay FRONZ might win worst comment |
Drifter
05.10.22 | i should be president |
budgie
05.10.22 | imagine a world with no parties and people just voted for naked policies |
FRONZ
05.10.22 | But why? |
Storm In A Teacup
05.10.22 | I vote that budgie is the cutest user to comment so far in this thread. |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.10.22 | i vote we make this most comments thread |
ReefaJones
05.10.22 | "If you are a conservative, you're the problem. If you identify with the liberals and the left, guess what? You're just as much of a problem. In simplified terms, democrats are just conservative lite, same great taste, but only half the white male supremacy you get from other idiots
Burn it all down and start the fuck over. That's the only way we find a solution"
lmao cringe galore |
nightbringer
05.10.22 | I'm pro life so in the abstract, I'm happy with this development. But I wish the states that are likely to pass restrictive abortion laws had more robust welfare provisions to support women and children. Also, this is really bad for the already frayed American civil fabric. I mean, the damage was done there when the supreme court ruled on abortion in the first place. But its undoing by the supreme court decades after it being taken for granted doesn't exactly feel healing. Kinda feels like two wrongs don't make a right. And it being the result of Trump's presidency is even worse. I don't know how much longer the states can stay 'united'. Glad I'm not there. |
budgie
05.10.22 | ill chomp your finger storm squAWK 🐤😡 |
Flugmorph
05.10.22 | "We don't need a military that's woman-friendly, that's gay friendly we need men who want to sit on a throne of Chinese skulls, but we don't have that now. We can't get women off of naval vessels, that should be step one but most are pregnant anyway."
where is the sputnik quote list i can't find it |
Egarran
05.10.22 | Thankfully our learned discourse will not be polluted by womenfolk |
Flugmorph
05.10.22 | w*men |
Drifter
05.10.22 | imagine being pro life |
Odal
05.10.22 | [2] |
Drifter
05.10.22 | isn’t that quote from tucker carlson or limbaugh or one of those other lunatics |
budgie
05.10.22 | yeah jesse kelly on tucker https://twitter.com/commondefense/status/1472244208400535561?lang=en
"we dont need a military that's gay friendly - with all due respect to the air force -" i feel like there's something i'm missing here lmao what |
Meridiu5
05.10.22 | Imagine thinking that scrambling a baby’s brain with an egg beater is a good idea. |
Flugmorph
05.10.22 | yeah fuck babies. |
Drifter
05.10.22 | mmmm baby brains 😋 |
FRONZ
05.10.22 | Heh |
ArsMoriendi
05.10.22 |
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Wildcardbitchesss
05.10.22 | “Imagine thinking that scrambling a baby’s brain with an egg beater is a good idea.”
Please dear god let this be sarcastic
“I'm pro life so in the abstract, I'm happy with this development. But I wish the states that are likely to pass restrictive abortion laws had more robust welfare provisions to support women and children.”
This is the kind of conservatism I can *almost* respect, but like, how about we just have better social safety nets in general along with abortion and contraceptives
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arf
05.10.22 | poop fart |
budgie
05.10.22 | thats like saying one person dying of cancer is proof chemotherapy doesnt work |
Egarran
05.10.22 | OK bait, I almost took it |
Keyblade
05.10.22 | obv the answer is to not have any of those things and criminalize them just to be safe |
budgie
05.10.22 | i guess the real scary part in that take is treating single motherhood like an intrinsically bad thing. ties back in with weird fixation on traditional nuclear families and any deviation being a satanic corruption of culture |
Meridiu5
05.10.22 | It looks like my comment got deleted.
“Single motherhood is proof that abortion, contraceptives, and social nets don’t work” |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.10.22 | what the fuck are you talking about |
Deathconscious
05.10.22 | He's not the brightest bulb. |
Wildcardbitchesss
05.10.22 | Clearly |
Storm In A Teacup
05.11.22 | "Single motherhood is proof that abortions don't work"
This only deserves one of the Russell Westbrook reaction memes. |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.11.22 | >i feel like there's something i'm missing here lmao what
common joke is the airforce are pussies |
budgie
05.11.22 | that he delivers that dig without the slightest change in expression is kinda hilarious. subhuman psychopathy aside |
Meridiu5
05.11.22 | Keep telling yourself that rofl |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.11.22 | Clarify what you mean by degrees of extremity? Because from my pov being centrist is analyzing the merits of both instead of just immediately assuming a position with little knowledge. I've never understood the arguments people make about centrism unless you can confidently say your platform is right about every single issue |
Snake.
05.11.22 | "It looks like my comment got deleted."
yeah unfortunately for us we can only delete your dumbass comments |
Drifter
05.11.22 | lmao imagine being a centrist |
Meridiu5
05.11.22 | Non sequitor, list album is really good |
SitarHero
05.11.22 | "I want to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and hear the lamentations of their women"
Best comment in this thread and best in life |
SitarHero
05.11.22 | The reason China is winning is because theyre making more babies and we're never going to be able to compete in the baby production olympics until we outlaw abortion, prevent people without uteruses from playing women's sports, and mandate that everyone with testicles expose them to uv radiation twice a week to get those T levels up.
It's the only way! |
Flugmorph
05.11.22 | politics once again irreparably dividing a previously strong and lively online community smh |
Hyperion1001
05.11.22 | i promise you it was worse 10 years ago |
Flugmorph
05.11.22 | ok boomer |
Egarran
05.11.22 | flug you're not supposed to seize an opportunity for division
one day you will also be 50 years old, you don't want the kids to disqualify you for that
at least that's my theory |
ToSmokMuzyki
05.11.22 | drift do u fall line n sinker for everything? |