DarkSideOfLucca: The 90s were better than everything

DarkSideOfLucca 06.03.20	If you prefer another decade, I regret to inform you that you are actually incorrect.
zakalwe 06.03.20	A culmination of 40yrs of constant, consistent, creative, youthful rebellion encapsulated on record. It’s been downhill ever since.
DarkSideOfLucca 06.03.20	^agreed
EphemeralEternity 06.03.20	beaten only by the 2000s, 2010's and (fuck it feels strange saying this) 2020's
Ocean of Noise 06.03.20	This is just the truth
Relinquished 06.03.20	first 3 seal the deal
StarlessCore 06.03.20	minus the first two and ur correct!!
rodrigo90 06.03.20	Then I ask myself why I'm still stuck in the 90's.
zakalwe 06.03.20	2000s, 2010s, 2020. It’s all too loose and inconsistent. There’s been some amazing albums but nothing like what came before and there’s been no ‘movement’ to anchor anything, create a foundation and build upon. The last 20yrs have been nothing but a fad.
DarkSideOfLucca 06.03.20	Yeah man, there's been a TON of amazing music since the 90s, but agree with the fact that the 90s felt like the stopping point for creating new entire genres/movement in the same way.
StarlessCore 06.03.20	early 2000s is best except it sucked for rap
osmark86 06.03.20	90s is amazing yeah
SandwichBubble 06.03.20	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pa6SGYWADU
zakalwe 06.03.20	I was kid in the 80s it was a bit shit tbh. Luminous socks, sun visors, Roller skates, Adventure Game Books, Knightmare, The Mysterious Cities of Gold,The Arcade and Cinema were the highlights. Hold on 80s weren’t bad at all to be fair.
AsleepInTheBack 06.03.20	the mysterious cities of gold is a riot
WatchItExplode 06.03.20	cities of gold baby
DarkSideOfLucca 06.03.20	@zak - Ah, I was a kid in the 90s so I also have some nostalgia growing up with all of this shit. 80's had better punk tbh, and it was the birth of thrash, industrial and broke the mold with some other genres so it wasn't all bad. I was not exactly around enough in the 80s to say first hand, but still.
bobbydylan 06.03.20	one of the best decades for music ever.
Satellite 06.03.20	"early 2000s is best except it sucked for rap" if i didn't know this was progmaster i'd say this is one of the dumbest things a user could post.
Gallantin 06.03.20	This list seems to have unequivocably proven that the 90s were rubbish
Relinquished 06.03.20	def needed some lost salt blood purge to save the decade
JustJoe. 06.03.20	agreed lucca
Gallantin 06.03.20	Absolutely, Wolfe
Relinquished 06.03.20	fat sike dummy dei or die
Gallantin 06.03.20	oh no ive been rumbled
DarkSideOfLucca 06.03.20	@Gallantin- which albums do you think are "rubbish"?
Relinquished 06.03.20	put in goatlord and keep his comment
Divaman 06.03.20	I don't know, I had this conversation with my wife yesterday. I don't see a lot of '90s nostalgia out there. Nothing like '80s nostalgia.
Keyblade 06.03.20	its prob just nostalgia being a kid and all but everything seemed better, even sports. soccer and basketball were at their most entertaining (spilled into the early 2000's). they dont make footballers like they did then
ElioG 06.03.20	Yeah, only '90s had David Seaman.
Keyblade 06.03.20	career ended by dinho in 02 rip
zakalwe 06.03.20	Still can’t get over that fucking fluke goal. Did he mean it? Did he fuck!!!
DarkSideOfLucca 06.03.20	I mean the 80s had a very fun vibe. And yeah, I was a kid in the 90s so there's that but like...you damn kids with your beep boop music and your robot autotune rap don't know what it was like back in the good ol days. Now shoo, off my lawn with you.
zakalwe 06.03.20	Rap is fucking awful nowadays though it really is.
JustJoe. 06.03.20	i like beep boop music so i feel like i am being belittled though it’s okay i will just discuss this with my therapist
Relinquished 06.03.20	if it wasn't for 90s video game beep boops I wouldn't be the jungle/dnb loving man I am today
DoofDoof 06.03.20	'The 90s were better than everything' correct
Keyblade 06.03.20	man i forgot video games too, jheeze
rodrigo90 06.03.20	I want this to be featured, seriously.
Relinquished 06.03.20	says the guy with 90 in the name
garas 06.03.20	"put in goatlord and keep his comment" Hahahaha! >:] Good list, btw.
DarkSideOfLucca 06.03.20	Can't say he's wrong, though
DDDeftoneDDD 06.03.20	"Decent" list
Gallantin 06.03.20	It'd be quicker to name the good albums here than the bad ones. There are 17 good albums on this list. Just under 17% of the 90s were good, accordingly.
DarkSideOfLucca 06.03.20	I mean Almost all of these albums are classics in my eyes, so I don't even know what you're referring to. Also most of these are universally praised too, it's not even like I'm drawing from obscure taste or anything aha
rodrigo90 06.03.20	There are 17 good albums on this list. Just under 17% of the 90s were good, accordingly. I want to make a point about this statement for the American users of this site Most of the bands and artists who got huge in the 90's were from the U.S. but not ALL OF THEM, got as huge as they were in your country. For example, Our lady peace's clumsy became diamond in the U.S., however, I had to DIG REALLY HARD in order to learn about them because they never were popular in Argentina. So when you say that a band is "overrated" because in your country were played all the time in your country doesn't mean that it was the same worldwide. Another example: I'm perhaps the only person who knew staind at their pick of popularity but none of the people whom I talked about them knew it, so there you go folks. Stop over-generalizing bands because they are overrated in your HOME country, think about the other countries as well. Thanks
Keyblade 06.03.20	snox moving like he's trying to release a greatest hits compilation lately
Relinquished 06.03.20	too bad they ain't landing
DDDeftoneDDD 06.03.20	Other countries, they think too, yes, thank
Tundra 06.03.20	https://gyazo.com/6036b0a543af583af3dcf2e66353f517 devil's advocate
AnimalsAsSummit 06.03.20	1991-2005. The most perfect period in music ever.
Divaman 06.03.20	My experience was that while there was good music being made in every decade, but about midway through the '90s, I had to start digging deeper to find it. That was when we got hit with The Spice Girls, then Britney Spears and her clones, and then the American Idol trend, and suddenly pop and mainstream radio was full of prefabricated pop.
Gallantin 06.03.20	Wolfe loves me he's just too afraid to admit it
ArsMoriendi 06.03.20	Needs more Ween, Brainiac, and Primus
wham49 06.03.20	Wrong but some great albums here
Relinquished 06.03.20	Wrong is also a good band but they're from 2014
Egarran 06.03.20	Needs more Aqua and boybands
JustJoe. 06.03.20	needs more of that shit that justjoe likes
Egarran 06.03.20	Yeah some church burnin' black metal
Dreamflight 06.03.20	Yeah best decade.
budgie 06.03.20	"1991-2005" like the worst period since modern music began
AnimalsAsSummit 06.03.20	@budgie simply hilarious to suggest otherwise.
Deez 06.03.20	Half of this shit you could hear on the radio and see on MTV and shit also, best decade.
chemicalmarriage 06.04.20	70s, 80s, 90s, so on and so on and so what. Music is music is music is music. The my generation bullshit will die but the music won't
Trifolium 06.04.20	Agreed man, 90s are the best!! And you haven't even mentioned Portishead, Massive Attack, Underworld, etc etc etc, there are so many more amazing 90s albums!
rockandmetaljunkie 06.04.20	The 70's though...
Dewinged 06.04.20	Every decade had its own character before the 2000s. Everything in the last 20 years seems very dilluded and inconsistent, it's good, of course, there are tons of great albums released in that period but can you really talk about a 00s or a 10s sound? hmm...
Lucman 06.04.20	Too true.
Dewinged 06.04.20	It's like you had this flavor, and that one, and that one, all of them really well defined, and enter the new century everything is like ok I am gonna mix this flavor with that one, and a bit of this, and a bit of that. hmm.. yeah...
Masochist 06.04.20	"early 2000s is best except it sucked for rap" Agreed hard, except that I'd say that it's more mid 2000s rap that was garbage. We were still flying on the 90's up until about 2001/2002, that's when everything went to the club, and Yin Yang Twins and Lil Jon took over. Still had some bangers, and Jay-Z and TI were great, but especially compared to both the decade before and the decade after, the 2000s were the low point of hip-hop, for sure.
FR33L0RD 06.04.20	Haaaaaas! Awesome! Too many good LP ! I like almost all the metal/rock/grunge in your list. Bookmarked! For playlist jam m/
budgie 06.04.20	"but can you really talk about a 00s or a 10s sound? hmm..." post rock, post metal, CHILLWAVE, blackgaze, explosion of dream pop, also dsbm & post bm
Dewinged 06.04.20	I guess we'll gain perspective in the years to come?
Trifolium 06.04.20	''I guess we'll gain perspective in the years to come?'' Yeah, I really think this takes time.
Lucman 06.04.20	Although I can't really pinpoint to one particular style, I do think the 2000s can be put in a box in the same way. It was the rise of the Fall Out Boy's and Panic and at Disco's. A splendid time it was.....
zakalwe 06.04.20	You’d think it would already have happened its been 20yrs. In the UK you had the Stone Roses at Spike Island to Oasis at Knebworth rounded off by Kid A. That was 10yrs. Oasis and Radiohead didn’t even exist at the start of the decade. and of course in among that you had the birth and death of grunge. Events that have actually written themselves into history. 20yrs later and what’s happening? Green Day and Weezer are on tour together and a load of genre tags are made up for things which represent and mean absolutely nothing.
Demon of the Fall 06.04.20	Amazing decade, but very poorly represented here.
JohnnyoftheWell 06.04.20	yeah lol, this is not a good 90s list but the thesis is correct
Demon of the Fall 06.04.20	Don’t get me wrong, some of these albums are REALLY GOOD, but I feel like they’re kind of here by fluke. Could do with a bit more variety as well.
Tundra 06.04.20	this thread screams "get off my lawn, damn punks..."
Deez 06.04.20	"early 2000s is best except it sucked for rap"' Not even remotely true. If as you said youre looking at TI and Jay Z THATS why it sucked
SitarHero 06.04.20	Bro do you even remember how slow the internet was in the '90s and how difficult it was to acquire porn?
Keyblade 06.04.20	dude TI and Jay Z ruled what
elliootsmeuth 06.04.20	Best era of music agreed
gschwen 06.04.20	derp
unclereich 06.04.20	Jeff Buckley
sexilexi 06.04.20	Fugazi / Unwound
Deez 06.04.20	dude TI and Jay Z ruled what' Post 2001 Jay z? stop it Key Early 2000s had basically Deltron,Oliver Heart, Typical cats,cannibal ox ,Genelec and Memphis reigns, Fantastic damage, People under the stairs, Cunnilnlynguist , Slum village and Im not even out of the first 20 months of it.
DominionMM1 06.04.20	hip hop was still good in the early-mid 2000s but for me the mid 90s was the peak
Deez 06.04.20	word.
Keyblade 06.04.20	dude Black Album came out in 03 which is my favorite Jay album, and ofc the seminal Blueprint in 01
zakalwe 06.04.20	70s 60s 90s 2000-2020
Deez 06.04.20	Yeah wasnt including BP. As that was the exception to the rest of the decade!
Keyblade 06.04.20	ah man u gotta listen to BA again. ur gonna be a changed man when that Change Clothes beat hits
zakalwe 06.04.20	Jay Z is rubbish
Egarran 06.04.20	Only problem is it prolly won't get better than the 90s, so now every decade will be disappointing.
Deez 06.04.20	Headbangers balls never coming back.Gigs are never going to be without people filming every second of it. Best to end it.
bloodshy 06.04.20	The only thing better about music in the 90s was the radio. If you think music isn't still continuing to get better, you're probably not finding the right music, honestly. There's something for everyone these days but you have to wade through miles of amateur shit, that now has the ability to self promote, to find it.
Deez 06.04.20	I agree with that 100% and something I argue to people who say todays music is shite in comparison. It most definitely is not for me its as good as ever. 90s were still the best though. Pre social media. Pre mobiles. Distros. Tape swapping. Its not the same excitement taking a chance on a record you never head before than it is now shifing through bandcamp and d/l and deleting shit at will until you buy. The 'digging' was still real. I mean it can be now too. Amazing music shows on TV AND radio as said. Was just a different, great,time. You werent bombarded with the worlds thoughts and BS every day. Good times.
Deathconscious 06.04.20	i was only 8 in 1999, so i dont have a ton of vivid memories from the 90s, and all the love i have for the decade is probably just from rose tinted glasses because life is awesome when youre a kid (for most).
Keyblade 06.04.20	honestly this is the best period for radio pop music but yea digging in the crates as a hobby will never be as exciting as back in the day because of the internet
Egarran 06.04.20	The monthly ritual of buying the most evil-looking album in the store
Keyblade 06.04.20	word of mouth, urban legends etc dying out is probably the biggest loss, there's no more mystique (not just with music). I think soundcloud might be the closest thing to that but like bloodshy said it's oversaturated with everybody and their mama
DominionMM1 06.04.20	“90s were still the best though. Pre social media. Pre mobiles. Distros. Tape swapping. Its not the same excitement taking a chance on a record you never head before than it is now shifing through bandcamp and d/l and deleting shit at will until you buy. The 'digging' was still real. I mean it can be now too. Amazing music shows on TV AND radio as said. Was just a different, great,time. You werent bombarded with the worlds thoughts and BS every day. Good times.” yep
DominionMM1 06.04.20	“The monthly ritual of buying the most evil-looking album in the store” exactly how i discovered godflesh and ehg
SandwichBubble 06.04.20	I wish the 90s never ended so people could stop talking about how much they wished the 90s never ended. Bunch of 20-somethings (and zak) acting like they're ready for the nursing home, truly depressing display.
DominionMM1 06.05.20	bring it on. got my doc martens and sweater vest ready to rock.
SandwichBubble 06.05.20	Boys are gonna be jamming nirvana while downing prune juice cocktails.
DominionMM1 06.05.20	and smoking virginia slims
SandwichBubble 06.05.20	Grunge grandpas.
Deez 06.05.20	Ill take it over mumble rap millenials
Trebor. 06.05.20	90s emo
Ryus 06.05.20	"Ill take it over mumble rap millenials" cringe
Deez 06.05.20	Fight me virgin
Deez 06.05.20	“The monthly ritual of buying the most evil-looking album in the store' I honestly cant remember the last time i bought an album without hearing anything from it or by that artist.
Deez 06.05.20	Although I dont miss buying shitty VHS copies of music videos just recorded off MTV. Or a bad concert recordings. Youtube is totally taken for granted nowadays. I spent half my life without it existing and can barely remember it not being there now.
SadSquad 06.05.20	What about the 80s?!?
Deez 06.05.20	Ghey
Deez 06.05.20	80 movies were the greatest tho. Also the scores to a lot of them were underated. Best synths as a decade by far and probably the only pop music i fk with
Ryus 06.05.20	"Fight me virgin" thats turbo virgin to u
SandwichBubble 06.05.20	"I honestly cant remember the last time i bought an album without hearing anything from it or by that artist." No offense, but this sounds like a you problem. No joke, if you guys are lamenting the death of the "cratedigging experience" in the digital age, you're obviously not trying very hard to find a substitute for it. You have search engines, scripts, catalog sites, ratings sites, and all sorts of things where you can click on a random album by a random artist from anywhere in the world and you can listen to it completely blind. Or even be the FIRST person to listen to it ever. Or rediscover an old band that would've otherwise been lost and most definitely wouldn't have been found at your crummy record shop back in 1996.
DominionMM1 06.05.20	true but there was something about actually using your hard earned money to buy an album that you knew nothing of and it turned out to be awesome or awful. “cratedigging” now carries absolutely no risk aside from a few minutes of your time.
Satellite 06.05.20	i definitely do miss that. sandwich's comment has me motivated to give more blind listens than i have in recent years.
unclereich 06.05.20	im glad the 90s are over and we all have phones so we can bring social justice issues to light and make sure Drew Brees never plays a god damn game again
rickeyhenderson 06.05.20	can't wait to throw batteries at that flag humper
DominionMM1 06.05.20	you’re just trying to hurt my feelings now reichy
SandwichBubble 06.05.20	@DominionMM1 Then just buy the album without listening to it first? They don't force you listen to the album before you buy it. If you want to go in completely blind, then just buy it without streaming it first. And if you really, really miss the "wasting money on an album that's a 2.5 at best" aspect, then just send me 15 dollars and I'll pick out an album for you. @Satellite Hope you do. Live in the now, not the 90s.
DominionMM1 06.05.20	i’ll trust an album cover over your taste sandy
SandwichBubble 06.05.20	Then you pick the album and just send me 15 dollars anyway.
DominionMM1 06.05.20	can’t. these trumpbucks don’t grow on trees.
SandwichBubble 06.05.20	Worth a shot. Anybody got 15 dollars?
Satellite 06.05.20	you got an onlyfans or something?
SandwichBubble 06.05.20	Send all funds to my kickstarter, we're trying to build a time machine to send 90s kids back to their precious decade forever and any help would be appreciated.
Satellite 06.05.20	you didn't answer my question 😉
SandwichBubble 06.05.20	I had to look up what "onlyfans" was just now because I'm out of touch and now I know with just a quick search! Another perk of the modern age! And no.
bloodshy 06.05.20	http://forgotify.com/player.cfm the best found-this-tape-in-the-gutter listening experience of all time
bloodshy 06.05.20	sandwichbubble, if you haven't used that, this is a must for you.
SandwichBubble 06.05.20	Have definitely used that one before, nice stuff. Will bookmark so I don't forget about it this time. Here's another one for you all to make use of: https://rateyourmusic.com/misc/random Or just go on bandcamp and type in random words, something, anything, PLEASE.
bloodshy 06.05.20	rateyourmusic? i can't cheat on sputnik!
SandwichBubble 06.05.20	I live a double life everyday. I've come to love them both, but there's a difference. I stay with sput for free, I PAY to use RYM. Them track ratings... I just can't live without 'em.
bloodshy 06.05.20	i can't even figure out how the charts work. they're all over the place? and all the reviews are glorified shouts. it acts like it has its shit together, but it's a hot mess. maybe i'll have to make an account so i can check your link though
SandwichBubble 06.05.20	I actually didn't know you needed an account to use the random feature, that sucks. And yes, rym kind of sucks in its own way. Adding artists/albums there is a nightmare, for example. Another perk of the modern age: freedom to complain about things on the internet. 90s looking pre-tty dire right about now. Whatdo they got, Daria?
bloodshy 06.05.20	they had vh1 pop up video. that shit slapped
Avagantamos 06.05.20	1991-2005. The most perfect period in music ever. [2]
OmairSh 06.05.20	The 70ssss Birth of Heavy Metal, Prog, Jazz fusion , etc
OmairSh 06.05.20	The 90s were great though
bloodshy 06.05.20	thought about it some more, i would rather have all the years than ten of them
Deez 06.05.20	@sand I 'digitally dig' as much as anyone i know man so youre advising the wrong person there. I spend literally hours every single day. I work nights and finish my job in about 2 hours i spend most of that searching out recs, listening to new music ,bandcamps,shit ive missed etc blogs ,my own 'to grab'lists, reviews blah blah then I wake up at 3 and spend usually till 9 at least listening and still 'looking' for music give or take the odd hours here and there to watch something,go for a walk etc I its not even an exaggeration to say 5 plus hours solid a day listening and searching for music at my laptop. Every day. Minimum. I listen 'blindly' to tons of music weekly that wasnt my point I still do it. It was the whole act of interacting with a record, The journey to finding where had it, going the store,waiting for it. Waiting for your fave radio/tv show once/twice a week to find new shit. The whole act of that is gone , really because its just a different time. And you can check everything at anytime from anywhere. That has pros and cons obviously. Something about taking a chance on a record and worked out was special. There was no other option You dont have too now, why would you? The whole physical connection is less because music is utterly expendable now. It was a more tangible era in general all pre internet was. Everything washes through your hands now. Its more convenient, sure, and i LOVE that convenience and it helps me find more than I ever would but it lacks substance and connection lot of the time. You wouldn't understand/be aware of it if its all youve known. So of course its going to sound better and faster to cypher through shit now but theres a deeper context to it all. Ive done both avidly which is why I believe can compare. I cant even count how many times ive stuck with an album because id bought it and maybe ended up liking it because of the time i gave it because i didnt want to waste my money. Nowadays....delete and its gone. Thats why Vinyl took off again. I dont hold on to that decade like many as I already said I dont pine for the 90s. Im happy i grew up through it. Ive been actively involved in the underground scene for 25 years SINCE the 90s, toured europe and i still help with promotion now in my spare time. I still buy albums consistently and I think now is as good as any for music I'm not a 'music sucks now guy' so to say i dont substitute the digging of records just because its a digital age is wrong. I most definitely do.
zakalwe 06.05.20	It’s all synthetic. We come from a generation where things weren’t just pulled from the digital habitat to be instantaneously gorged on and ultimately forgotten about before the next ‘fix’ of what has become more or less substance-less commodity. The feeling of what is real and being anchored to a sense of being able to connect to a specific band or album has been replaced by a meaningless quest of finding something that no longer exists because it’s all been drowned out, amalgamated and mass produced on a scale that makes it all insignificant. The ‘music’ is still enjoyable though. It’s a fuel.
Deez 06.05.20	Dude i used to hang onto watching Headbangers ball on a sunday the way people hung onto watching Game of thrones every week. Maybe they were doing a soundgarden special from the states or a randon fest report somewhere for 2 hours. Id hear new songs and have to hunt that album down. Weeknd off. Go into town and search. Maybe even order and come back week later. The wait was exciting. It was a quest. Its over romanticized by us old fucks of course. But being into a largely ridiculed genre at the time by everyone at school/college and having John peel play death metal or Headbangers ball dropping their stuff. Id learn about Hip hop through MTV raps too. i suppose i romanticize the physical search rather than everything at your fingers which I am NOT complaining about either being am old lazy twat and someone who absolute rinses digital music.
zakalwe 06.05.20	John Peel was essential. Fucking exciting, and it was exciting and essential because there was him and that was it. Nothing else like it. Absolute geezer. Probably a nonce.
Deez 06.05.20	What a man. Mary ann Hobbs for me too. The rock show in the 90s and then her electronic show in the mid 2000s.
DoofDoof 06.05.20	The Rock Show was essential listening...nay cassette recording
Deez 06.05.20	When they would randomly announce UK tour dates. Out of blue. Oh shiiiiit.
Coast 06.05.20	The 90s win m/ Sky Valley Ten Aenima Nola None So Vile My Arms, Your Hearse Symbolic Through Silver In Blood Dirt Badmotorfinger Seasons In The Abyss Pierced From Within Hvis Lyset Tar Oss In The Nightside Eclipse Around The Fur
DoofDoof 06.05.20	Deez - What was the rock TV show on terrestrial- it wasn’t Kerrang TV but the writers were always on it. Morat etc. The host was some dude with a scraggy beard if I remember
Deez 06.05.20	Noisy mothers??
DoofDoof 06.05.20	Yes! Lol - the beardy geezer was ‘Krusher’
Deez 06.05.20	Krusher yeah hahah a girl i know is good mates with him. Still looks the same but greyer. It was on dead late wasnt it?
DoofDoof 06.05.20	Yeah - set the record timer on the VHS so you could play full volume later
Deez 06.05.20	Hahahha
Deez 06.05.20	Stay hard, stay heavy or some shit like that
Deez 06.05.20	Rock hard,rock heavy, rock animal! Hhah Jesus
DoofDoof 06.05.20	More innocent times
Deez 06.05.20	'The 70ssss' Yeah its also really hard to argue against the 70s for the quality of music also.
SandwichBubble 06.05.20	@Deez I'm not reading all that mess, but: "You wouldn't understand/be aware of it if its all youve known." I'm (probably) the same age as you. So I've lived analog and digital. And digital is practically a godsend. You wanna downgrade to inferior means and buy physical only, you have every right. But I didn't make it to the future just to pine and whine about the past. More independent acts, more freedom, no labels. "We come from a generation where things weren’t just pulled from the digital habitat to be instantaneously gorged on" No, you're (I'm?) from the generation of being advertising consumers and being told what to listen to because you had no other option. So much better. "I miss the 90s, back when I had an excuse to be lazy."
DoofDoof 06.05.20	but the mainstream was a lot better in the 90s
SandwichBubble 06.05.20	Hey macarena Did you see my gaff at the end of my tirade there? How em-barrrasssing!
Egarran 06.05.20	Does anybody here remember Vanessa Warwick?
Deez 06.05.20	"I miss the 90s, back when I had an excuse to be lazy."' hahahah wut?? That doesnt even make sense. You only have to sit at your computer nowadays. You had to do much more to find and buy music then. 'Im not reading that mess' Gutted. Took ages too.
Deez 06.05.20	Does anybody here remember Vanessa Warwick?' Shes got real estate videos on YT. Gone from trying to fuck Pete Steele every interview to middle aged english dudes about the housing market.
gschwen 06.05.20	"but the mainstream was a lot better in the 90s" qft
JokineAugustus 06.05.20	91 and 99 baby
Demon of the Fall 06.05.20	I doubt ‘the mainstream’ has ever been worse than it is now.
SandwichBubble 06.05.20	"You had to do much more to find and buy music then." I was specifically talking to zak, but let me rephrase for clarity: "I miss the 90s, back when I had an excuse to only listen to what other people had in stock for me." True peak music laziness was the 90s, pretending to be underground while listening to major label schlock you found in the discount bin. No excuses for being a surface-level sucker now. Your digging repertoire's grown from a couple thousand to millions, yet people want less choice because they don't want to put the effort into finding things. Also you said: "I honestly cant remember the last time i bought an album without hearing anything from it or by that artist." So I somehow doubt you're truly trying to recreate the precious, waste-of-money experience that is cratedigging. Sticking to the artists you know in this day and age is a sin. "I doubt ‘the mainstream’ has ever been worse than it is now." Every decade has a decent pocket of good music in the mainstream. 2010s had some really nice folk pop and alternative stuff. 90s had like one good grunge album and some weird shit. People just tend to forget the rest of the crap the 90s peddled because they don't wanna talk about it. i.e. HEEEEY MACARENA
SandwichBubble 06.05.20	Alright, I'm posting paragraphs. Time to step away from the PC and cool off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D6Zi9OlUVM
Pikazilla 06.05.20	Space rock of the 70s was lame af, agreed
Egarran 06.05.20	"Shes got real estate videos on YT. Gone from trying to fuck Pete Steele every interview to middle aged english dudes about the housing market." Ha, so true. She always flirted with those dark, hunky frontmen.
Deez 06.05.20	'True peak music laziness was the 90s, pretending to be underground while listening to major label schlock you found in the discount bin.' What a massively pretentious generalisation. Why you talking '2nd hand crummy record stores' and 'bargain bins' while here talking how great downloading shit (for free) is? There were still plenty of great small and independent record stores/Distros/labels around that were not fking HMV and the like. LATE 90s and a lot of the Nu metal shite you could attach to this but the WHOLE decade??? 'Your digging repertoire's grown from a couple thousand to millions, yet people want less choice because they don't want to put the effort into finding things.' That I agree with and pretty much say the same to anyone whining about how music nowadays sucks. It doesnt. People juts want shit handed too them. its a good a time as ever. '90s had like one good grunge album and some weird shit.' Now youre just trolling
Demon of the Fall 06.05.20	@Sandwich: of course there’s plenty of poor mainstream music from every generation, music that’s still represented on radio now (can’t say what it was like before that). I guess that doesn’t even include stuff that was once mainstream, but has since been lost to obscurity (hence I’m not aware of it). My point was that every generation has at least SOME good mainstream music, what is there now? Nothing. Absolutely chuff all. I can’t think of a single worthwhile mainstream artist, unless we have a very different definition of the word. It’s an abyss, a barren desert.
bloodshy 06.05.20	Mainstream was better because they had to appeal to people like us too. So metal was on the radio because we were the fuckers calling into the stations every night. Now that we have separated from that mess of popular shit, they're playing only for the people who don't actually care what they hear, so inoffensive throwaways fill the airwaves. Could be a contributing factor to the lowering popularity of metal in general. So yeah, mainstream was better. Then again, pop music sucks way less these days too...
zakalwe 06.05.20	'90s had like one good grunge album and some weird shit.' lol
NeroCorleone 06.05.20	He's right on the first part
DoofDoof 06.05.20	Sandwich doesn't get it - the mainstream stuff was really good in the 90s Nevermind, Automatic for the People, The Fat of the Land, Ok Computer....the list just goes on forever. He doesn't rate those albums though - but that isn't the argument. The argument is there's no equivalent to them really.
zakalwe 06.05.20	Sarnie was never part of the movement. Fair fucks to the bloke.
GhandhiLion 06.05.20	Does anyone else here hate mcu movies? I hate mcu movies.
Satellite 06.05.20	third eye blind s/t was the best non-radiohead mainstream album of the 90s. i will die on this hill.
zakalwe 06.05.20	third eye shite
Satellite 06.05.20	would've gone with third eye bland myself.
zakalwe 06.05.20	I tell you a band who is never mentioned round here and they were fucking massive/quality and were a soundtrack to the decade (certainly the early part) James. Done some absolute classics.
gschwen 06.05.20	James is a one-hit wonder in the states so it's not really a surprise they don't get talked about around here.
Demon of the Fall 06.05.20	@bloodshy: modern pop is awful, worst it’s ever been. At least pop music was once catchy, now it’s only selling point has evaporated because it needs to fail at being ‘arty’ or ‘deep’ instead. Warning: massive generalisation... the ‘shallow’ stuff is somehow worse.
Keyblade 06.05.20	modern pop is the best its ever been tbh. from production to compositions to replay value (for pop anyway)
Ryus 06.05.20	yeah modern pop is pretty good right now
Keyblade 06.05.20	2009 - 2014 was the true dark ages for pop. just pure trash across the board
Ryus 06.05.20	that was when every pop song had a rap feature
Satellite 06.05.20	airplanes by b.o.b. (ft hayley williams and eminem) 🤮🤮🤮
Deez 06.05.20	Yeah Im not down with pop music at all but I recognise theres quite a lot of more 'respected' pop around right now with legit artists, actually . Im the same in I just assume its all terrible because of that spell at the start of/half of the decade.
Keyblade 06.05.20	"airplanes by b.o.b. (ft hayley williams and eminem) 🤮🤮🤮" literally what I had in mind when I typed that lmfao
gschwen 06.05.20	I think I prefer more pop artists now than I did when I was younger, but it's probably an age thing. The two that come to mind right now are Carly Rae and Charli XCX. Younger me probably would not admit to enjoying their music.