EclipseInYourEyes
08.21.19 | If you have an idea for modifying this for the better, please let me hear it |
peekatoad
08.21.19 | Attila
Chaos 1.9-3= -1.1
Guilty Pleasure 1.6-3= -1.4
About That Life 2-3= -1
Outlawed 2.6-3= -.4
Rage 2.7-3= -.3
So -4.2
Biggest number right there |
tectactoe
08.21.19 | Fire! Orchestra would have a 3.5
exit 0.8
enter 1.0
ritual 0.8
arrival 0.9
Except all of their albums except one are under 100 votes. |
tectactoe
08.21.19 | and a vote for Swans with 4.0:
my father will guide me 0.7
the seer 1.2
to be kind 1.2
the glowing man 0.9 |
EclipseInYourEyes
08.21.19 | Swans...since that Daughters album I keep hearing this name and still didn't manage to dive into them. Well, I guess it's time |
EclipseInYourEyes
08.21.19 | and I was actually expecting a big minus-band...but not this fast...and this minus. nice work |
SlothcoreSam
08.21.19 | Let's start with my fav band of the decade. The Menzingers
After the Party=1
Rented World=0.8
On The Impossible Past=1.2
Chamerlain Waits=0.9
For a total of 3.9
And there is a new album out this year.
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SlothcoreSam
08.21.19 | But the clear winner will be King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard.
They score a wopping 9.9
15 releases this decade all averaging over 3,and all but 2 albums have over 100 votes.
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GhandhiLion
08.21.19 | This wont matter till you can find a reasonable way of including votes into the calculation. Good luck with that. |
SlothcoreSam
08.21.19 | The Smith Street Band
More scared of you than you are of me 0.8
Throw me in the river 1.1
Sunshine and technology 0.9
No one gets lost anymore 1.2
Total 4,
And a new album could be out this year |
Demon of the Fall
08.21.19 | Yeah, an artist with a crazy number of releases can still win this over one with a handful of stronger releases, not sure what the best way of getting around that is though.
Horrendous may be worth adding - 4, 4, 3.8, 3.6 (so 3.4 overall). |
dedex
08.21.19 | Kendrick
Section .80 1.0
Good Kid Maad City 1.4
To Pimp a Butterfly 1.4
DAMN. 0.7
Total 4.6 |
Pheromone
08.21.19 | Someone do Buckethead |
Pheromone
08.21.19 | Got to Blank Slate in 2017 at like 17.4 give or take |
Tundra
08.21.19 | Between the Buried and Me
Parallax I 0.9
Parallax II 1.0
Coma Ecliptic 0.5
Automata 1 0.7
Automata 2 0.8
Total 3.9 |
Tundra
08.21.19 | (this is a bonus don't have to add)
Ne Obliviscaris has av of 3.1 with 3 albums, which is insanely impressive
Portal of I 1.1
Citadel 1.1
Urn 0.9 |
EclipseInYourEyes
08.21.19 | List updated.
@dedex you forgot the EPs, which could be excluded anyway. However, I added them |
EclipseInYourEyes
08.21.19 | This isn't about "who got the best artist" and more about being a collection of good artists in the passing decade. Even though this method surely has its flaws, I think we can all agree that all of the above artists do seriously good music. And additionally, it is open for every genre so I (and ofc everybody else) can discover consistently good and recently released music |
Tundra
08.21.19 | In that case, add NeO if you wish, just a small question, would live albums count? cause between the buried and me has a live album with over 100 votes lol |
EclipseInYourEyes
08.21.19 | hahaha nah, just EPs and LPs. I also added the number of records and the average score |
PistolPete
08.21.19 | Leprous would score high on this. Steven wilson too.
I personally think Kendrick owned the decade, especially after you think about how hard it is to deliver consistency in hip-hop when the genre tends to have a short life cycle with rise/peaks happening so fast. Artists usually drop out of relevancy quickly and he didn’t. |
Wildcardbitchesss
08.21.19 | Since eclipse already said Dillinger I’m going with Chelsea Wolfe |
CalculatingInfinity
08.21.19 | "This method shall prevent that a band that released a lot of average or "good" stuff gets a higher score than others only through quantity > quality."
o rly?
Buckethead: Here is the sum (ratingxfrequencyofrating - 3xfrequencyofrating) for each rating since 2010 from 2.2 upwards to 4.6 (nothing 4.7-5): -0.9 -0.8 -0.7 -3.0 -1.5 -1.2 -1.8 -3.6 0 -1.8 1.7 2.6 3.9 5.6 15.0 11.4 18.9 12.0 21.0 20.7 9.9 3.6 3.9 2.8 3.0 3.2
Total: 123.9 |
BenThatsMyJamin
08.21.19 | 1 is 1 tbh |
CalculatingInfinity
08.21.19 | Oh, and that's 258 albums. |
Tundra
08.21.19 | "This method shall prevent that a band that released a lot of average or "good" stuff gets a higher score than others only through quantity > quality."
this is true but the overall average would be terrible |
SitarHero
08.21.19 | @CalculatingInfinity
"Albums with extremely low number of votes (let's say less than 100) are excluded." |
DoofDoof
08.21.19 | The National |
CalculatingInfinity
08.21.19 | Some things you do just because you can, plus I was working on that before the description was edited to include that. |
CharacterMusings
08.21.19 | Imagine Dragons |
EclipseInYourEyes
08.21.19 | this is beginning to look like a sweet list of the decade. Thank y'all and keep it going (yeah, even the real bad ones, cuz it's fun) |
Tundra
08.21.19 | So we don't have to calculate it ourselves? that's part of the fun of it imo >:(
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Tundra
08.21.19 | Periphery (someone has to do it ;)
P1 0.6
P2 0.5
Clear EP 0.2
Jugg Alpha 0.5
Jugg Omega 0.7
P3 0.4
P4 0.7
Total 3.6 (P2 and P4 av should be way higher screw you sput, SMILEY FACE) |
Tundra
08.21.19 | Haken
Aquarius 0.9
Visions 1
The Mountain 1.1
Restoration EP 1
Affinity 0.8
Vector 0.9
Total 5.7 insanely high score, wow |
Wildcardbitchesss
08.21.19 | And if their new record is as good as the singles I’d say Norma Jean can be in the running too.
Meridional - .6
Wrongdoers -.9
Polar Similar -1
.83 avg |
Sinternet
08.21.19 | surely this should be dividedd by the amount of albums they've done> you could put out 10 3.5's and get a 5 |
Pikazilla
08.21.19 | king gizzard and the wizard lizard lmao |
Tundra
08.22.19 | Stop killing this thread it's actually a good idea :( |
Scheumke
08.22.19 | I guess you could add Thank You Scientist in here. 3.9/4.2/4/4 makes for a score of 4.1 with an average of 1.03 |
Scheumke
08.22.19 | Owh and let's just toss The Dear Hunter in here shall we. 10 ep's with a whopping average of 3.9 (all except the last with a minimal of 250 votes), plus 4 albums 4.1/3.7/4.1/4.1. Thats a 3.9 avg over 14(!!) releases. I would actually vote for them in a best artist of the decade poll tbh. |
Trifolium
08.22.19 | Agnes Obel
Philharmonics: .8
Aventine: 1.0
Citizen Of Glass: .8
Score = 2.6
Average = .9 |
Trifolium
08.22.19 | Emma Ruth Rundle
Some Heavy Ocean: 1.0
Marked For Death: .9
On Dark Horses: .9
Score = 2.8
Average = .9 |
Trifolium
08.22.19 | Alcest
Écailles de Lune: 1.0
Les Voyages De L'Âme: .7
Shelter: .5
Kodama: 1.1
Score = 3.4
Average = .9 |
Trifolium
08.22.19 | Oh and of course:
Ihsahn
After: 1.0
Eremita: .8
Das Seelenbrechen: .7
Arktis.: 1.0
Amr: .7
Score = 4.2
Average = .8 |
budgie
08.22.19 | hammock
chasing after shadows...living with ghosts: 1.0
departure songs: 1.1
oblivion hymns: .9
everything and nothing: .8
mysterium: .7
universalis: .6
score = 5.1
average: .85
score with EPs included is 9.9, so close |
JohnnyoftheWell
08.22.19 | Artist is the decade is Oomori Seiko and it's not close BUT keeping in line with this bleak ratings cap rule, I guess Hop Along can have my vote
Get Disowned: 1
Painted Shut: 0.9
Bark Your Head Off Dog: 1
Score = 2.9
Average = .97 |
EclipseInYourEyes
08.22.19 | and again thanks to all of you. I removed the minus hunters (Imagine Dragons and Attila) because this begins to look like a real good list for the decade. |
EclipseInYourEyes
08.22.19 | Just a few words: I know that the 100 votes-cap is arbitrary and if there is a way to include the number of votes in a smoother way, please tell me.
However: Of course a higher score does not necessarily mean that an artist did better than others, that's why I added the average. I think this list gives a good overview over the artists, because you can see how productive they were in the number of records and the nominal score and how consistently good they were with the average without being too complicated in a statistical way.
What you wanna do with it, depends on what you favor and what you look for. I for one think that this rather simple system works out fine but like I said: If you have suggestions how to improve it, please let me know. |
Avagantamos
08.22.19 | death grips
exmilitary: 0.9
money store: 1
NLDW: 0.7
government plates: 0.4
NOTM: 0.7
jenny death: 0.9
bottomless pit: 0.9
year of the snitch: 0.6
death grips [ep]: 0.7
interview 2016 [ep]: 0
steroids [ep]: 0.6
score: 7.4
average: 0.67 |
tectactoe
08.22.19 | DEATHSPELL OMEGA (3 albums)
Furnaces - 1.0
Synarchy - 0.9
Paracletus - 1.2
Total: 3.1
Average: 1.03
JULIA HOLTER (5 albums)
Tragedy - 0.7
Ekstasis - 0.8
Loud City Song - 1.0
Wilderness - 0.9
Aviary - 0.8
Total: 4.2
Average: 0.84
NAILS (3 albums)
Unsilent Death - 0.9
Abandon All Life - 0.9
You Will Never Be - 0.8
Total: 2.6
Average: 0.87
JONNY GREENWOOD (4 albums)
Master OST - 1.0
Inherent Vice OST - 0.9
Phantom Thread OST - 1.0
You Were Never Really Here OST - 0.7
Total: 3.6
Average: 0.9 |
Avagantamos
08.22.19 | Lil Ugly Mane
Mista Thug Isolation: 1
Oblivion Access: 1
Uneven Compromise [ep]: 1.1
Prelude to Panopticon [ep]: 1.1
Score: 4.2
average: 1.05 |
peekatoad
08.22.19 | Boo... don't remove bands |
Tundra
08.22.19 | Honestly I think Imagine Dragons etc. should kept just to remind how bad their output ACTUALLY was this decade |
StarlessCore
08.22.19 | Chief keef |
EclipseInYourEyes
08.22.19 | re-added Imagine Dragons and Attila.
Jonny Greenwood and Chief Keef don't have enough album votes to count |
ArsMoriendi
08.22.19 | The Knife? Though they only have like 2 entries |
peekatoad
08.22.19 | This is a great way to rank artists btw |
SitarHero
08.22.19 | Wow. Is Dear Hunter winning the decade? |
Tundra
08.22.19 | The Contortionist
Exoplanet 1
Intrinsic 0.4
Language 0.9
Clairvoyant 0.8
Total 3.1 |
EclipseInYourEyes
08.22.19 | @ArsMoriendi: Mh, this makes me think about an additional rule like "at least 3 records"...would that be appropriate?
@peekatoad: thank you! I'm happy to see people are going with it
@Tundra: I saw the newest EP of Contortionist having 99 votes. Since I watched them live a week ago (went there for Azusa) and wanted to check it out anyway, I gave it the last vote to count for the average...and bringing it down haha |
SitarHero
08.22.19 | You should probably keep EPs off the list though and have the score only count for proper LPs |
Tundra
08.22.19 | @EclipseInYourEyes thanks bro, really wanted that EP here, it has such a high average and is so good... heh... heh... |
EclipseInYourEyes
08.23.19 | mh...what about counting EPs and their scores only for 1/2 instead of 1? I think kicking them out completely would be wrong, cuz their are still a body of work and should be appreaciated |
EclipseInYourEyes
09.08.19 | Just re-worked this to properly count EPs, exlcuded Agnes Obel cuz there were only 2 LPs with more than 100 votes. When this year is over I will rank this properly according to average. There are 3 artists with albums to be released this year.
If there are any additional suggestions, please let me know |
Tundra
09.08.19 | Are you gonna put them in order from highest to lowest? |
Sinternet
09.08.19 | sufjan (planetarium and carrie live should count) |
GhandhiLion
09.08.19 | Doesn't The Smith Street Band have 2EPs?? |
benkim
09.08.19 | Hard to look beyond The National and Fleet Foxes really |
GhandhiLion
09.08.19 | Kayo Dot
Coyote 0.5
Gamma Knife 0.5
Hubardo 1.1
Coffins 0.9
PHOBOS 0.5
Blasphemy 0.6
Stained Glass 0.8/2 = 0.4
Total~ 4.1
AVG 0.63
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GhandhiLion
09.08.19 | Instead of reducing the score of all eps by half, you could reduce the score depending on how much lower the run time of the ep is than a specific time.
e.g For threshold of 30min
If total EP time is 5mins then score is *0.16 (instead of *0.5/halved)
5/30 = 0.1666 |
EclipseInYourEyes
09.08.19 | @Tundra Yes, I will rank them highest to lowest depending on the average. I thought that's the best way to properly display the achievements of an artist
@Sinternet I can not find anything with "Planetarium", it is not listed in the database (or am I just blind?). Regarding that live album: For me, a live album is not a proper creative output. It just means, that someone recorded your live gig and you released it. Or is it kind of different in this case?
@Ghandi: Smith Street Band actually has 4 EPs in this decade but only one is above 100 votes. Thanks for the suggestions of runtime. Normally, to keep it really accurate, that would be the golden way. But it also would be a shitload of work. Especially with The Dear Hunter (8 EPs). While I am with you in general there, I gotta refuse that because of the work it needs. Hope that it's okay. Will add Kayo Dot later (have thought about them earlier this day, need to check em out).
@benkim: Fleet Foxes have only 2 LPs this decade. I am struggling myself if 2 or 3 records should account for the minimum to be included. While I think that 2 LPs are enough creative output, I think it is too few to give a rather accurate average. But 3 records is also not that much more. Idk
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GhandhiLion
09.08.19 | 'I Scare Myself Sometimes' is actually a single. People just added it to sputnik because #sputnikneedsasingleoption |
EclipseInYourEyes
09.08.19 | you mean, it is NOT an EP? |
GhandhiLion
09.08.19 | oops |
DDDeftoneDDD
09.08.19 | Hi there. So I want to do this with Thou. But they have tons of ep's, and one thing that really should count are their compilations of EP which are brilliant. Help me here Eclipse. |
EclipseInYourEyes
09.08.19 | how the hell is Thou missing here?
regarding your problems with the EPs: there is only one EP with more than 100 votes, so it is the only one counting. It's "Rhea Sylvia" and looks like a normal EP...at least for me. added it. |
DDDeftoneDDD
09.08.19 | Gotcha! More people should listen to those compilations though. They are awesome x)
Tks for adding! |
DoofDoof
09.08.19 | Do Tool automatically win this now? |
Scheumke
09.09.19 | Alright, so right now we have for best average:
1. The Dillinger Escape Plan
2. Kendrick Lamar
3. Thank You Scientist
And for most prolifically consistent:
1. The Dear Hunter
2. Death Grips
3. King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard |
zakalwe
09.09.19 | I’d probably have to go with Steven Wilson. Gulp. |
EclipseInYourEyes
09.09.19 | imo everyone with 1.00 and above is more than honorable. Would not have thought that this list would end up so sweet. So much diverse stuff to go through. thanks to everyone who participated! if there are further suggestions, just write them down |
EclipseInYourEyes
06.08.20 | I finally took the time to update this list. Of course you can continue to suggest new entries or say something, if there is something wrong (average rating changed etc.).
As of now, Thank You Scientist jumped in front of Kendrick for the second place. TDEP still number 1. |
FR33L0RD
06.08.20 | Enslaved
LP Axioma....2010: 4.2-3=1.2
LP RIITIIR 2012: 4.1-3=1.1
LP In Times 2015: 3.9-3=0.9
LP E 2017 : 3.9-3= 0.9
EP The Sleeping God 2011: (3.4-3)/2=0.2
EP Thorn 2011 : (3.2-3)/2=0.1
TOTAL=4.4 |
Tundra
06.08.20 | would be cool if you put it in order, but anyway, interesting list |
EclipseInYourEyes
06.08.20 | yeah, maybe if I'll have some time but after correcting it, I really had no energy left for it |
Minushuman24
06.08.20 | I mean, it's probably Jeff Rosenstock/BtMI! |