splinter: Real Post-Hardcore: 2000-2018

splinter 01.21.19	This genre is almost dead
ramon. 01.21.19	huh
Sinternet 01.21.19	good one dude
veninblazer 01.21.19	Surely 2018 had better to offer than the "meow meow boo" band, right?
splinter 01.21.19	@AgentDeathbat I don't remember anything else tbh. Not the biggest fan of that but I have no alternative
veninblazer 01.21.19	Fair enough. If the latest Senses Fail counts as post-hardcore then maybe that.
Viriathus 01.21.19	Translating the Name >>>>>>>>> Self-titled PtV are meh and I the Mighty are garbage. Rest are decent or great. Never listened to Ghost Atlas but I honestly dont think they sound appealing.
veninblazer 01.21.19	"I the Mighty are garbage." Woooooow, now that's one I didn't see coming. With you on Translating the Name though.
splinter 01.21.19	Translating the Name was 2003 and it's not stronger than the Artist in the Ambulance imo
Viriathus 01.21.19	It sure is. Best Thrice is The Illusion of Safety.
splinter 01.21.19	@SlicePaperMoog weirdo
Viriathus 01.21.19	Rather be a weirdo than u bby
splinter 01.21.19	you would be glad to be me ;* but besides that your taste is shit tho
JohnnyoftheWell 01.21.19	Yup, these commends defo read like a 10s post-hardcore thread
Viriathus 01.21.19	Im happy being my pretentious goth twink self and not someone who thinks Collide With the Sky is worth anything above 2.5 like its surely better than shit like Sleeping With Sirens but lol it aint THAT good.
nightbringer 01.21.19	Plz don't die post-hardcore...
JohnnyoftheWell 01.21.19	Throw a mwY album in either 2015 or 2018, and maybe swap Wake for Weird and Wonderful Marmozets, and this suddenly looks a lot better
MillionDead 01.21.19	My bad for assuming this was a like a punk post-hardcore list. Solid though
Viriathus 01.21.19	Make it so that its just 1-5 with 10 and 11 thrown in and maaaaybe 9 then you got yourself an even better list.
JohnnyoftheWell 01.21.19	Lol rip can't argue with that
zakalwe 01.21.19	Shit bands
MillionDead 01.21.19	Not all of them are bad. Some of em yeah.
splinter 01.21.19	All of these bands are pure gold
JohnnyoftheWell 01.21.19	Ha
Viriathus 01.21.19	Yeah hun im gonna go with a hell no on that one pffft
TheMightyScoop 01.21.19	how is fugazi not at the 2001 spot.
JohnnyoftheWell 01.21.19	^oh shit yeah, hit up Fugazi there and shift Thursday to 2011, everyone's a winner
splinter 01.21.19	Fugazi I don't like =)
butcherboy 01.21.19	list title defeats its purpose
TheMightyScoop 01.21.19	"fugazi I don't like" gives an amity affliction album a 5
Viriathus 01.21.19	...Well at least you like At the Drive-In and Thursday
Jots 01.21.19	either fugazi or unwound for 2001 would be good choices, albeit kinda canon but whatever gospel should take 2005. kinda a given imo would put mclusky over glassjaw for that year but that's just me idles should have some inclusion slightly less obvious might be stuff like cerce, age sixteen, ampere, baton rouge, tristan tzara, etc yeah. tbh.
Jots 01.21.19	tbh 80s-90s post hardcore is 'real' post hardcore insofar as that designation matters. not to be that boi but
Viriathus 01.21.19	"cerce, age sixteen, ampere, baton rouge, tristan tzara" tbh I wouldnt count those as Post-Hardcore
Jots 01.21.19	i wouldn't count 99% of post-2000 post hardcore as post hardcore either, but moreso derivative forms. the influence is still present enough imo
Relinquished 01.21.19	look at all of these whiny bands
TheMightyScoop 01.21.19	real post hardcore= drive like jehu, jesus lizard, fugazi, unwound, nation of ulysses, jawbox, quicksand, shudder to think, rites of spring, girls against boys, shellac, chavez, and slint.
splinter 01.21.19	@TheMightyScoop This the amity affliction album is better than anything you 5'd
JohnnyoftheWell 01.21.19	i mean, that's just slander tbf
JohnnyoftheWell 01.21.19	"real post hardcore= drive like jehu, jesus lizard, fugazi, unwound, nation of ulysses, jawbox, quicksand, shudder to think, rites of spring, girls against boys, shellac, chavez, and slint." Word. Only band missing there is number girl
TheMightyScoop 01.21.19	shit haven't heard about number girl until just now. for sure gonna jam that today! thanks johnny
JohnnyoftheWell 01.21.19	Hope you dig, dude (given all the bands you just listed + the fact you have Inspiration is Dead 5'd, I expect you will...)
TheMightyScoop 01.21.19	lol splint most of my 5s are before 2000, which means you haven't heard any of them
splinter 01.21.19	I heard some but mostly I don't like them because it's bad music. My taste is much better what you can see at this list ^-^
JohnnyoftheWell 01.21.19	My taste is much better what you can see at this list ^-^ Metalcore 31% Yeaaaaah
splinter 01.21.19	metalcore is the best genre ever
JohnnyoftheWell 01.21.19	who hurt you?
Viriathus 01.21.19	Number Girl are sweet. I listened to School Girl Distortional Addict a few times years ago. That list really needs Ink and Dagger too.
DamnVanne 01.21.19	On account of the style of the music and the nature of the business, post hardcore will probably never die but what rises to visibility will be almost exclusively childish BS. Saosin 4ever tho
pjquinones747 01.21.19	You're a bit all over the map here, bud.
Viriathus 01.21.19	Only tracks worth giving a shit about with Cove are Bury Your Head and Sleepers. Only true Saosin is Anthony Green
ArsMoriendi 01.21.19	What's "fake" post-hardcore?
TheMightyScoop 01.21.19	"I heard some but mostly I don't like them because it's bad music. My taste is much better what you can see at this list" grammar
Viriathus 01.21.19	Something that doesnt really exist. Most things that get called Post-Hardcore are legitimately Post-Hardcore just different forms/eras
BlazinBlitzer 01.21.19	"Surely 2018 had better to offer than the "meow meow boo" band, right?" Nope!
MillionDead 01.22.19	Despite not ever being quite mainstream viable the way mallcore was for a time, the pre 2000's post-hardcore sound or versions of it (Fugazi, Husker Du, Unwound, Minutemen, etc.) of it have made a resurgence in multiple records/bands in the past ten years. Early Iceage records, Idles, The Men, Cloud Nothings, Metz, Super Unison, Shoppers, Perfect Pussy, Fucked Up, Self Defense Family, and more.
Viriathus 01.22.19	Self Defense Family are great. Listened to a bit of Super Unison and theyre alright.
Calc 01.22.19	list is disappointment after that metalcore list from earlier
splinter 01.22.19	This and the metalcore list are absolute
onionbubs 01.22.19	“Only tracks worth giving a shit about with Cove are Bury Your Head and Sleepers.” nopenopenope follow and feel and come close bro. that first album mega owns (and the second one the backlash for that thing is dumb)
onionbubs 01.22.19	some cool stuff here some kinda whatever stuff but it has letlive saosin and glassjaw so cant really complain
Intothepit 01.26.19	Lol this list