DarkSideOfLucca
12.26.18 | List is correct |
J() Alexander
12.26.18 | Meshuggah is a good genre, yeah. |
DarkSideOfLucca
12.26.18 | Realistically Meshuggah is my top 10 favorite genres |
JustJoe.
12.27.18 | justjoe-core |
Relinquished
12.27.18 | sludge would be sandwiched between 1 & 2 but yea pretty much my ranking too (if my genre knowledge was this limited) |
BerryGarlicia
12.27.18 | needs black fast |
Deathconscious
12.27.18 | Queefcore >>>>>>>> |
GhostB1rd
12.27.18 | Trash metal is for the elderly, the infirmed, and the downtrodden. |
evilford
12.27.18 | Sludge too low |
SharkTooth
12.27.18 | Mongolian throat singing>all |
RippingCorpse1986
12.27.18 | Wait, I thought you were more of a bm guy. |
butcherboy
12.27.18 | Bm=Bowel movement all the way! |
Hawks
12.27.18 | Bm is best yeah. |
Deathconscious
12.27.18 | Im ok with black metal being called bowel movements, they feel great. |
StrikeOfTheBeast
12.27.18 | 3 will always be my number 1. |
butcherboy
12.27.18 | Just wait until hemorrhoids, baby |
Deathconscious
12.27.18 | How about i wait until i take a black shit, indicating some potentially serious health problems. |
StrikeOfTheBeast
12.27.18 | Wouldn't you rather it be black than red? |
Deathconscious
12.27.18 | Nah dude, red is usually something less serious. Black means theres bleeding deep in your digestive system, a possible symptom of colon cancer. |
sixdegrees
12.27.18 | Or you’ve recently taken pepto bismol |
butcherboy
12.27.18 | Or you’ve had a bunch of Guinness |
butcherboy
12.27.18 | I didn’t know five Guinness was the new euphemism for your mom |
budgie
12.27.18 | i've had black shit before! |
Source
12.27.18 | Haven't had black. But I've had green |
neekafat
12.27.18 | where tf is folk |
GhostB1rd
12.27.18 | This is the logical evolution of a Meshuggah-based list. It turns to shit. |
DarkSideOfLucca
12.27.18 | @neek - Oh shit I forgot about folk
@Ghost - Don't be a cunt < 3
@Ripping - I LOVE some black metal, but as a whole I don't really seek it out |
Hawks
12.27.18 | Off the top of my head ranking of my favs/what I jam the most:
Bm > dm = funeral doom (all doom/funeral/sludge in general) > hip-hop > indie > ambient/drone > metalcore > thrash > electronic > prog |
Casavir
12.27.18 | You would put thrash below metalcore. |
GhostB1rd
12.27.18 | Who wouldn't? |
Casavir
12.27.18 | Anyone with good taste. |
Hawks
12.27.18 | Yeah not everyone is as cool as you Casavir.
How many classic 90’s/00’s metalcore albums have you actually heard? Prob not many. |
GhostB1rd
12.27.18 | Oh yeah, well how many classic 00's thrash metal albums have you heard?
Get it? Do you get it? |
Source
12.27.18 | There's a ton of good metalcore |
Hawks
12.27.18 | Yeah Casavir is just an idiot and hasn’t listened to any of it but tries to act like an elitist lmao. |
GhostB1rd
12.27.18 | He listens to Overkill. |
Deathconscious
12.27.18 | im gonna piss some people off with this but Overkill has always been mediocre to me. |
J() Alexander
12.27.18 | @Berry |
GhostB1rd
12.27.18 | It comes with the genre. |
Casavir
12.27.18 | Mid '80s to early to mid '90s thrash > late '90s to early '00s metalcore easily |
DarkSideOfLucca
12.27.18 | Oh yeah, metalcore/hardcore is 4. Woops |
J() Alexander
12.27.18 | Prog rock/metal would be 3 then, right? |
GhostB1rd
12.27.18 | Thrash had five years of relevance, metalcore has been going strong for about twenty years.
What a hard choice. |
Casavir
12.27.18 | Well, a meeker flame tends to last longer. |
J() Alexander
12.27.18 | "Thrash had five years of relevance, metalcore has been going strong for about twenty years."
Lol. |
Casavir
12.27.18 | And there was notable thrash coming out well into the '90s so that's a pretty shit argument on your part. |
GhostB1rd
12.27.18 | Part of the reason is cause thrash, as a genre, collectively decided:
"Vocals? Ah who cares! RIFFS."
How'd that work out? |
budgie
12.27.18 | metalcore isn't in the same galaxy as thrash metal
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Casavir
12.27.18 | "Part of the reason is cause thrash, as a genre, collectively decided:
"Vocals? Ah who cares! RIFFS."
How'd that work out?"
It became a better genre. |
Ryus
12.27.18 | metalcore is prob better yeah |
Hawks
12.27.18 | Well Casavir ruined another thread, peace. |
Casavir
12.27.18 | Glad to be of service. |
GhostB1rd
12.27.18 | If budgie sides with you on anything, it's a wakeup sign to check yourself. |
WatchItExplode
12.27.18 | No prog no post hxc...ranking is 3.0 by default (a good thing) |
Deathconscious
12.27.18 | thrash went hard as dick in the 80s. it didnt have much longevity, but even today there are a handful of great thrash bands. Voivod are still making good shit, Vektor, Fog of War, Power Trip, Ripper, Condor, etc. |
Deathconscious
12.27.18 | "Vocals? Ah who cares! RIFFS."
How'd that work out?
great actually, thrash with clean singing usually sucks. just scream incoherently into the mic, who cares. im here to get fucked. |
GhostB1rd
12.27.18 | Screaming is done better by so many mxc bands it's not even an argument. |
J() Alexander
12.27.18 | Voivod are better than (probably) every metalcore band ever so thrash wins, idk. |
budgie
12.27.18 | metalcore is for limpdicked losers. thrash stomps all over it |
Deathconscious
12.27.18 | "Screaming is done better by so many mxc bands it's not even an argument."
i mean, their vox usually take more technical skill. those kinds of vox would sound stupid over thrash though. |
Casavir
12.27.18 | Let me just point out the typicality of a metalcore fan criticizing another genre for prioritizing composition and musicianship. |
GhostB1rd
12.27.18 | I'm criticizing not giving a shit about an integral part of the fucking music.
I mean with thrash like Sepultura at least I can listen without rolling my eyes at the vox. |
J() Alexander
12.27.18 | Sepultura lol |
Relinquished
12.27.18 | if metalcore vocalists could have the breath control over those thrash speeds lets talk |
Deathconscious
12.27.18 | HANGTHEPOPEHANGTHEPOPEHANGTHEPOPEHANGTHEPOPEHANGTHEPOPEHANGTHEPOPEHANGHIMWITHAFUCKINGROPE |
J() Alexander
12.27.18 | Deep. |
DarkSideOfLucca
12.27.18 | Fixed |
GhostB1rd
12.27.18 | People who love thrash should be, yes. |
J() Alexander
12.27.18 | I am disappoint. |
Deathconscious
12.27.18 | "Beyonce is a better singer than J Mascis. indie rock sux." |
DarkSideOfLucca
12.27.18 | Don't be disappoint, Alex.
And Ghost, stop being wrong holy shit.
Same goes for everyone else dissing thrash. Thrash fucking owns and you damn well know it. |
Casavir
12.27.18 | Anacrusis alone destroys the entire metalcore genre. |
Ryus
12.27.18 | check acme |
DarkSideOfLucca
12.27.18 | Coroner alone as well |
Deathconscious
12.27.18 | Metalcore has had a lot more boundary pushing and forward thinking bands than thrash, but if i had to choose between the two genres id probably go with thrash for those 80s jams. |
GhostB1rd
12.27.18 | I can't be wrong when I'm right. |
Casavir
12.27.18 | "Metalcore has had a lot more boundary pushing and forward thinking bands than thrash"
I doubt that. |
Deathconscious
12.27.18 | Then you dont know much about metalcore, its not even close. |
GhostB1rd
12.27.18 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdcg738-Q70
Dedicated to casavir, the one and only. |
Casavir
12.27.18 | "Then you dont know much about metalcore, its not even close."
I have never once heard a good argument for this. |
Deathconscious
12.27.18 | Lol even thrash fans know its one of the most stagnant genres, youre in denial. |
J() Alexander
12.27.18 | Metalcore isn't doing that much either anyway, at least the prog/tech part of thrash is more interesting. |
Space Jester
12.27.18 | Yea are we going to act like metalcore hasn’t been stagnant for like ten years at least
All the best stuff like Seizures is taking influence from the metalcore 90s heyday I anyway. Metalcore may have lasted a lot longer in the public eye than thrash, but only because it was co-opted by scene kids and generally made into a pop genre.
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Casavir
12.27.18 | Besides, even supposed pioneering metalcore classics like Protestant just take a ton out of Thought Industry and Anacrusis' playbook anyway, often doing a lot of what Rorschach did before. |
Deathconscious
12.27.18 | I never said metalcore isnt stagnant. Take the range of sounds from thrash and the range of sounds from metalcore though. Youre out of touch or in denial if you actually think thrash is nearly as diverse. |
budgie
12.27.18 | there is sooo much sexual tension between you 2 |
Deathconscious
12.27.18 | You 4* |
Relinquished
12.27.18 | djent's pretty much metalcore so idk about it being stagnant |
widowslaugh123
12.27.18 | Metal sucks but Metalcore sucks way worse. At least there have been some good thrash albums. Like the only good Metalcore bands are Botch and Converge. Inb4 you must not know much about metalcore |
Space Jester
12.27.18 | Some of my fave bands and albums are metalcore but thrash is definitely more influential. Thrash has a greater range of sounds than a lot of people realize, and it’s responsible for spawning at least two other genres.
Metalcore is a crossover of pre-established genres. It has a very wide range of sounds and styles but usually those styles are again taken from other genres. There are exceptions of course but if we compressed the list of metalcore bands down to only those who were truly original and influential, the list would not be very big |
StrikeOfTheBeast
12.27.18 | I'll give Metalcore its due credit as a genre, but if my username and avatar is any indication of what I'd prefer between the two, then that should answer where I stand in this 'debate.' lol |
Sinternet
12.27.18 | thats it you're kicked from the discord server |
Sinternet
12.27.18 | 'Metal sucks but Metalcore sucks way worse. At least there have been some good thrash albums. Like the only good Metalcore bands are Botch and Converge. Inb4 you must not know much about metalcore'
imagine being this unknowledgeable about metalcore |
DarkSideOfLucca
12.27.18 | "this list is the musical equivalent of 2008 rage comics"
It's not like I put deathcore and nu-metal first but ok bro |
widowslaugh123
12.27.18 | Lol sint. Slayers discography has more great albums than an entire genre so why would I want to be more knowledgeable? |
DarkSideOfLucca
12.27.18 | because both genres rule |
Thalassic
12.27.18 | Well this was once a promising thread before it turned into a lame "metalcore is superior to thrash because I like metalcore" vs "thrash is superior to metalcore because I like thrash" pissing contest. |
DarkSideOfLucca
12.27.18 | Hey man
They're both great : - ) |
Thalassic
12.27.18 | Depending on the kind of metalcore I like both, even though there's more thrash I like than I like metalcore. Let's just say I like both.
Then again, I have shit taste.
So both probably suck.
That's deduction for ya. |
Sinternet
12.27.18 | 'Lol sint. Slayers discography has more great albums than an entire genre so why would I want to be more knowledgeable?'
slayer's discography has 0 good albums let alone great albums, vs. the hundreds of classic metalcore bands out there
ignorant shit |
Meridiu5
12.27.18 | Menshuggah |
J() Alexander
12.27.18 | @Sinternet
Lmao. |
DarkSideOfLucca
12.27.18 | "slayer's discography has 0 good albums let alone great albums"
Alright now you're just fucking trolling lol |
evilford
12.27.18 | Gay thread |
DarkSideOfLucca
12.27.18 | Thread is homosexual as fuck |
Thalassic
12.27.18 | Seriously, shit thread |
widowslaugh123
12.27.18 | Best thread |
GhostB1rd
12.28.18 | The only thing worse than this thread is thrash metal. |
widowslaugh123
12.28.18 | Lol |
widowslaugh123
12.28.18 | Wait is there a such thing as thrash metal core? |
rabidfish
12.28.18 | if there is i really don't wanna know |
StrikeOfTheBeast
12.28.18 | Thrashcore is a legit subgenre. Cryptic Slaughter and D.R.I. were among the earliest examples, and it helped spawn Powerviolence and Grindcore. |
platnum
12.28.18 | All metal sucks
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GhandhiLion
12.28.18 | ^correct |
widowslaugh123
12.28.18 | The didn’t know dri and cryptic slaughter were considered thrashcore. Both bands slay tho |
DarkSideOfLucca
12.28.18 | "All metal sucks"
"^correct"
Ughhhh |
Deathconscious
12.28.18 | Thrashcore is more commonly referred to as crossover. |
evilford
12.28.18 | Must suck to think metal sucks. |
GhostB1rd
12.28.18 | What was that band that had death metal vox over thrash? I actually remember digging that. |
Thalassic
12.28.18 | Thread continues to suck |
hal1ax
12.28.18 | bm > |
J() Alexander
12.28.18 | Czech metal is the real best genre. |
widowslaugh123
12.28.18 | My wife always thought that prog Metal meant Prauge metal and there was just like
a huge metal scene in Prauge lol |
GhandhiLion
12.28.18 | yes Bad manners > |
DarkSideOfLucca
12.28.18 | Praugessive metal |
Deathconscious
12.28.18 | "My wife always thought that prog Metal meant Prauge metal and there was just like
a huge metal scene in Prauge lol"
https://youtu.be/ukW_P0EEJJw?t=219 |
Deathconscious
12.29.18 | what?... |