DarkSideOfLucca
10.06.16 | I basically am violently obsessed with all of this except for 10 (which is still awesome on it's own), so this was an incredibly hard list to rank. Most of these are in the 9/10 or 10/10 for me. |
DarkSideOfLucca
10.06.16 | And my sincerest apologies to the DEI or die people out there. |
sumyunguy
10.06.16 | Completely agree with you on 1 and 2. Those are easily their best. Also agree that DEI is overrated. It's amazing, but it pales in comparison to what came later. I would definitely have Nothing higher than Koloss though. I just can't get over the production job on Koloss. It has to be their worst sounding album. Organic just doesn't suit these guys. The drums sound hollow and are way too high in the mix. Props though. Legendary band. |
adr
10.06.16 | 3>8>1>6
rest is whatever |
Thalassic
10.06.16 | 8>1>6>3>2>7>5>9>10
(dunno about 4 yet) |
Thor
10.06.16 | Nothing > Catch 33 > Chaosphere > The Violent Sleep of Reason > DEI > Koloss > obZen > Contradictions Collapse |
Sinternet
10.06.16 | Band is insane levels of overrated |
DarkSideOfLucca
10.06.16 | @sumyumguy - Hell yeah dude, and that's refreshing to hear! I love DEI, but I never understood how people could love that over their more recent, more unique work. I may have underrated Nothing on this list now that I'm looking at it, probably would rate it above Chaosphere. And yeah, that was my only real complaint about Koloss - it sounds a bit too clean for them.
@Sinternet - Nah. |
evilford
10.06.16 | nah [2]
nothing re-release? |
Relinquished
10.06.16 | 8 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
DarkSideOfLucca
10.06.16 | @evilford- I should give that another spin, it's been a few years since I've listened to the re-release. I may bring that above Koloss, actually. I've severely underrated Nothing in this list. |
DarkSideOfLucca
10.06.16 | @Relinquished - Lol, yeah I was waiting for that |
emester
10.06.16 | Putting DEI that low is a crime against nature |
evilford
10.06.16 | just realized DEI is that low lol. to each their own I guess. |
Relinquished
10.06.16 | lucca do u thrash |
DarkSideOfLucca
10.06.16 | Aha, yeah like I said before : they're my favorite band, so everything that isn't Contradictions Collapse is either a 9/10 or a 10/10 so I still love DEI. The technical thrash sound is awesome, but lyrically it's inferior and in terms of them inventing their own Meshuggah sound it's pretty immature imo. They didn't become the unique mammoth that they are until a bit later, as awesome as that album is. |
CalculatingInfinity
10.06.16 | 1 is their best by a mile good job :3 |
Grimlin
10.06.16 | "but I never understood how people could love that over their more recent, more unique work"
DEI was in a league of its own at the time. If anything, their more recent stuff is getting to be less and less unique as the djent genre grows annoyingly larger by the minute. |
climactic
10.06.16 | only overrated to those who dont know how to poly |
CalculatingInfinity
10.06.16 | Yeah that's undeniably true, nothing really sounds like DEI. That and Nothing is basically the peak of their innovation. |
KILL
10.06.16 | worst rank ever made |
DarkSideOfLucca
10.06.16 | @Grimlin - Djent really only became a thing a few years ago, so they have two albums since the genre was created? Nah, their newer sound is its own thing and definitely beyond technical thrash metal which is essentially what DEI is. |
DarkSideOfLucca
10.06.16 | Thanks Kill :) |
Kompys2000
10.06.16 | 10 is 1
...anyone? |
DarkSideOfLucca
10.06.16 | Yeah 10 is definitely 1 |
Relinquished
10.06.16 | "DEI was in a league of its own at the time. If anything, their more recent stuff is getting to be less and less unique as the djent genre grows annoyingly larger by the minute."
exactly. DEI destroyed Fear Factory at the time and pushed sonically where a thrash style can be.
"their newer sound is its own thing and definitely beyond technical thrash metal which is essentially what DEI is."
half-true. DEI isn't just "essentially" technical thrash metal. there's more going on than what they're playing. and if you actually put up their lyrics against the other albums, then C33 isn't all that special comparatively. I'd say obZen is on par to DEI but DEI had more going on. those gang vox added a bit of badass that's been missing too.
"Djent really only became a thing a few years ago, so they have two albums since the genre was created?"
wrong here. Textures copied DEI, and Sikth took some 'shuggah to their sound. djent's been pulsating before Periphery, and speaking of them their s/t has been out for more than 6 years which is more than "a few". thanks to the internet it seems shorter than it seems but we've lived through it and caught up to a genre that hadn't matched up to OBZEN. |
Ryus
10.06.16 | 8>6>7>1>3>2>5 |
Ebola
10.06.16 | 6 is 1 |
Artuma
10.06.16 | dei or |
Relinquished
10.06.16 | die |
Relinquished
10.06.16 | remember the originators |
Dis_Con_Nec_Ted
10.06.16 | obZen isn't that good pps |
Relinquished
10.06.16 | wrong |
worthlessscab
10.06.16 | I, Chaosphere, DEI rest don't matter |
Relinquished
10.06.16 | wrong |
Hawks
10.06.16 | 6
8
7
1
2
5
Haven't heard the others, pumped for the new one though. |
DarkSideOfLucca
10.06.16 | Agree to disagree about Catch 33, those lyrics and the lyrics on ObZen are some of my favorite ever. And DEI IS essentially just technical thrash, what else is in there? I guess there's some jazz thrown in on the solos but to me it's not as interesting as them literally creating their own genre of music. Also, the copycat bands are missing what makes Meshuggah Meshuggah.
And don't make me feel old, Djent bands just started forming three months ago, right?
@Disconnected - wrong [2]
@worthlesscab "rest don't matter" wrong [2] |
evilford
10.07.16 | new 1 might be around 4 or 5 for me as well. hard to say w/ just one listen but it's amazing |
DarkSideOfLucca
10.07.16 | Hellll yeah dude |
Relinquished
10.07.16 | thing is their genre started with DEI, can't you hear it??? |
mindleviticus
10.07.16 | I agree |
mindleviticus
10.07.16 | monstrocity omg |
Nocturtle
10.07.16 | you deserve an ass whoopin for having 7 so low
you got a point about dei tho its honestly just a meme album |
Relinquished
10.07.16 | get banned again |
Nocturtle
10.07.16 | chill fam |
Flugmorph
10.07.16 | 6 and 8 are way to low boi |
Relinquished
10.07.16 | chill with that meme album accuasation |
Nocturtle
10.08.16 | tell me how its not a meme album |
evilford
10.09.16 | 8 is 1 [34] |
StrikeOfTheBeast
10.09.16 | 8 is 1 [3425879795] |
Relinquished
10.09.16 | "tell me how its not a meme album"
cuz it's my joke and no one does it right |
iloveyouall
10.09.16 | that is pretty much the definition of a meme |
Relinquished
10.09.16 | not in this case |
iloveyouall
10.09.16 | that's weak |
Relinquished
10.09.16 | like ur bod |
iloveyouall
10.09.16 | yeah, it's a real shame that I don't workout everyday to compensate for the fact that I'm an incredibly bland person. |
Relinquished
10.09.16 | or is that all I give to you? I don't see the need to give personality here anymore. |
iloveyouall
10.09.16 | wait, so you were giving personality before? I couldn't tell |
CosmicPie
10.09.16 | It all depends on my mood... and that changes every time I take a piss. But I dig most of what this band does, so I agree with you there. |
Relinquished
10.09.16 | yea before you even joined sach duh |
iloveyouall
10.09.16 | I could probably read your old comments and notice no change |
Relinquished
10.09.16 | you could but you won't |
Relinquished
10.09.16 | if you do tho have fun investing your time |
iloveyouall
10.09.16 | what makes you think I would invest my time in someone so immediately bland as you? |
Relinquished
10.09.16 | because you invest time in bland trap idiots |