StarlessCore
03.28.16 | dopez |
Flugmorph
03.28.16 | cool |
Tunaboy45
03.28.16 | sweet |
zakalwe
03.28.16 | Is it better than Dark Souls II? More in line with the original? |
Nikkolae
03.28.16 | dp |
StarlessCore
03.28.16 | its way better than dks2 so far |
Chortles
03.28.16 | really wanting to try and get into the first one again. didn't much have the time or patience for it when i tried it the first go |
StarlessCore
03.28.16 | 3 is more accessible but a near equal in quality of content |
Calc
03.28.16 | maybe 4th time is the charm for me....once it's for sale used. |
Gyromania
03.28.16 | ds2 is a masterpiece I wish people would stfu about dark souls 1 being better.
I just finished dark souls 3. It might be the best in the series. Some of the boss battles and levels are just insane |
Flugmorph
03.28.16 | you finished ds3 already?? fucking hell im still stuck in ds1 |
Muppelope
03.28.16 | lol
good to hear its great, super pumped for this
only played bloodborne in this series, but ill go back and play the others at some point im sure |
StarlessCore
03.28.16 | ds2 isnt a masterpiece and 1 is 50x better |
Muppelope
03.28.16 | i tried demons souls when i was like 14 and put that shit down right quick. i wanted to play it, i just couldnt lol |
Gyromania
03.28.16 | yeah ds3 took me about 32 hours to finish. a little bummed by how much shorter it is than ds2 but still the game is a 10/10. one boss in particular (the nameless king) is possibly the best boss i've ever fought |
Gyromania
03.28.16 | and why isn't 2 as good as 1? what ruined 2 for you? was it the lifegems that kept you in the game longer? the awesome bonfire warp system that wasn't tedious as fuck? too many 'guys in armor' for bosses? |
StarlessCore
03.28.16 | no the unbelievably lifeless content, disjointed open world, lame bosses. of course mechanically it was great and it improved on some things from a technical standpoint, but content wise, every other souls game (bloodborne included) smacks dks2 in the face |
StarlessCore
03.28.16 | the worst part about 2 was the open world. Dark souls 1 had an open world that made sense, that felt like real progression through its part, between cracks, and back to where you started. The world in 2 is a bunch of poorly thought out faux dks lore zones smashed into each other incoherently and nothing was more tedious than going through those boring levels or those mostly laughable bosses |
Gyromania
03.28.16 | i can't stand souls fans tbh. bad level design? are you high? who gives a flying fuck if the world didn't connect from point a to point z? are gamers so pedantic now that that's a legitimate criticism these days? especially when the enviroments are as gorgeous as the ones in ds2.
and the content was far from 'lifeless'. pretty sure most people played the vanilla game when it was shit and continue to call it shit to this day. but the criticisms are so asinine and totally unfair. the lore in ds2 is fantastic, have any of you actually checked out the videos?
also: sin, fume knight, sir alonne, burnt ivory king - the game contains some of the best boss battles in the series. also bloodborne was great but super limited in customization and weapons, and can we be honest for a second here: the game is monochromatic as fuck |
Gyromania
03.28.16 | and ask yourselves this: how come every time dark souls is mentioned you pounce on the opportunity to shit on dark souls 2? think there's maybe a little elitism there? i mean, is it a competition or something? even if you didn't like it as much as 1 are you seriously going to say it's shit? it's better than the vast majority of modern rpgs |
StarlessCore
03.28.16 | no its because dks2 was them taking a brilliant game formula that they mastered when they made the first game and piecing together bland, lifeless content, stupid boss fights and lame level design
the lore is excellent like in every dks game, but the levels were spliced together poorly, were not nearly indicative of what from software has done with the other games, the bosses were freaking lame
bloodborne: mechanically weaker than dks2 because it lacked the role playing elements that made the souls series so special, but the actual content, levels, bosses, progression was far better implemented. Dark souls 2 felt like some other company took from's engine/souls mechanics and made their own thing
was weak, sorry. mechanically better than most rpgs. Content wise? no |
Trebor.
03.28.16 | I want it so bad |
StarlessCore
03.28.16 | do the jap workaround |
zakalwe
03.28.16 | Souls is about the atmosphere and the surprises. DSII had none whatsoever. |
StarlessCore
03.28.16 | "Of course it's a legit fucking criticism that dsii's slapdashu hurr let's paste these areas over here and here and here design was fucking TRASH. The backpedalling and annoying structure of the world in dsii was nothing short of a fucking nightmare"
the glaring, comparative (to any other souls game or even a well realized open rpg world) flaw of dks2 |
Gyromania
03.28.16 | bloodborne forewent shields for guns, which was cool i guess but, yeah, pretty limited options when it comes to fighting = couldn't exactly be strategic and take the time to study the enemies. also pretty few weapons, and many of the levels looked pretty similar. the frame rate was constantly dipping and could barely maintain a steady 30fps. everything was dim with very dark shades throughout, made the game feel very monochromatic like i said. i enjoy all of fromsoft's games immensely, don't get me wrong, but bloodborne is in many ways broken and probably their most limited game content wise. i'm super shocked that you think it has more content than ds2 |
Gyromania
03.28.16 | backpedalling? um... that's what you had to do in ds1 because the bonfire system was dogshit. and the world in ds2 feels pretty connected - you can even see many points in the distance from majula alone. give me specific examples (and for the love of god don't say iron keep). and i mean, you want to talk about a world that feels connected - dark souls 1 has a more roundabout path to it where many places converge with firelink shrine, but why does that matter? does it matter if it's a circle or not? god damn that's nitpicky
did you play scholar of the first sin? because if not you honestly shouldn't even be able to comment on it. |
StarlessCore
03.28.16 | how is the bonfire system dogshit in 1
2 just has a ton of lame, poorly conceived levels, boring boss fights, a large amount of fairly lame enemies, just lacked completely in the creativity area. again, it felt like another company took the souls engine and made their own game. it didn't feel, world construction-wise or even progression-wise like a true, brilliant souls experience. felt disjointed, some levels Id even go as far to say were VERY stupid |
StarlessCore
03.28.16 | I only played scholar of the first sin
great frame rate, mediocre world design |
zakalwe
03.28.16 | It's all about the shortcuts, that feeling of stumbling through the impossible, kicking down a ladder and finding a way back to a bonfire is unbeatable. Bloodborne had the best one ever with the woods to the clinic.
DLC should add to the game not make it. |
StarlessCore
03.28.16 | dlc in dks2 was very good, better than the base game
vanilla's content and levels and npcs were just lame, lame, lame. im 15 hrs into 3 and im ten times as interested in it's world and progression than I was with 2 |
Trebor.
03.28.16 | My biggest problem with Dark Souls 2 is that it's way too fucking long |
zakalwe
03.28.16 | Has 3 got shortcuts? |
Gyromania
03.28.16 | dark souls 3's shortcuts are easily the best in the series. starless you prob know what i'm talking about by now.
i thought the levels in dark souls 2 were pretty damn great. like, okay i'll concede the game wasn't as much about exploration as the other souls games and seemed very linear at times as a result, but i was almost always blown away by the visual design of the areas. heide's tower of flame is gorgeous-looking - even shrine of amana, the most hated area was still aesthetically great. all 3 dlc packs were fantastic as well as far as content and especially level design. majula was lovely too (can we at least agree this is a better hub than firelink shrine?). i also liked how many armor sets and weapons there were - and spells, there were so many choices.
back to dark souls 3 though: where are you in the game? |
Gmork89
03.28.16 | DS2 has too much "PREPARE TO DIE" bs mentality to it. Oh you wanted a creative boss? Nah just fight 3 lame ones at the same time, good luck. Oh you wanted to walk down this hallway? Oh well this shit you can't see is going to explode and kill you, should have predicted that happening. And whenever the boss battles are 1 on 1 you just destroy them first or second try, like Demon of the Song, wtf was the point of that?
Anyways DS1 and Bloodborne are classics, DS3 most anticipated game ever can't wait. |
StarlessCore
03.28.16 | @gyro farrons keep |
Gmork89
03.28.16 | Not to mention 32 damn bosses in DS2. Quality not quantity guys come on now. |
Gameofmetal
03.28.16 | i still love ds2 but ds1 is better yea. hyped for the new game |
Vetimus
03.28.16 | I gave up after the first dark souls, coundnt get past the second fucking boss. |
Willie
03.28.16 | Is that the RPG that kills the shit out of you over and over? |
Vetimus
03.28.16 | yes |
Willie
03.28.16 | I have Dark Souls 2 when it was free on Xbox Gold, but I never played it. Does this one kill the shit out of you too? |
Vetimus
03.28.16 | all dark souls does. |
StarlessCore
03.28.16 | its not nearly as hard as dks1
slightly easier than 2, but ten times better a game |
Mystletainn
03.28.16 | Never played one of these but I might bite with the new one, looks cool. |
EyesWideShut
03.28.16 | what do you fight in this game ? im guessing demons similar to Diablo 2 ?? |
DrMaximus
03.28.16 | Otherworldly beings that can fuck you up in 2 hits |
JigglyPDiddy
03.28.16 | No money = No DS3 for about another month lol fack |
ConcubinaryCode
03.28.16 | I still haven't even beat bloodborne |
flalafell
03.28.16 | I liked 1 more than 2 but still thought 2 was a great game, looking forward to playing 3 though, especially after how meh i felt about bloodborne |
MeatSalad
03.28.16 | Lucky guy. I'm playing through Dark Souls 1 right now, trying to beat it before 3 comes out. I might try 2 as well but it seems like a more half-assed game from what I've seen and read about it. I just beat bed of chaos last night, easiest boss in the entire game so far. |
MeatSalad
03.28.16 | 2 seems to have a lot of humanoid bosses though which is actually a good thing. A lot of the massive explosions of originality that were in 1 actually made for some piss poor boss fights, cool aesthetics aside (centipede demon, seath, gaping dragon) |
MeatSalad
03.28.16 | Bed of chaos was a shitty boss that looked great too, more like an obstacle course if anything |
flalafell
03.28.16 | "I just beat bed of chaos last night, easiest boss in the entire game so far."
Blasphemy, bed of chaos was the hardest piece of shit in that game lol |
MeatSalad
03.29.16 | I only died to it once due to being an idiot and missing the branch you're supposed to fall on at the end. But I mean other than that you just have to run around with your shield up |
Gyromania
03.29.16 | bed of chaos is so god damn broken. see, people often forget about the shitty bosses and mechanics from ds1 like that when claiming it's SO much better than the second. also no way in hell is dark souls 1 much harder than 3. only reason i did so well in 3 is because by this point i'm a souls veteran. if i were playing ds3 as my first ds game, i would get destroyed so much harder than i did the first time going through dark souls 1. some of the standard enemies in this game move at speeds so fast you can't even track them, and they hit like a bus. also there are some hard boss battles in dark souls 1 but ds3 takes the cake. you'll see what i'm talking about the more you progress, star. right now you're past farron's undead legion. the game has been a breeze up until that point, but it's about to **** you in the *** |
Minushuman24
03.29.16 | lucky son of a bitch
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Gyromania
03.29.16 | yo star are you playing on the ps4? if so we should coop |
MeatSalad
03.29.16 | Have they made the co-op more doable yet? Summon signs in 1 were awful if you wanted to play with a buddy but I understand they mostly wanted players to only play with strangers |
Gyromania
03.29.16 | summoning has been mostly easy for me. only problem is that so many people need help in particular areas that it's hard to summon them - there was an instance where a sign appeared right below my feet. i grabbed it as fast as i possibly could have but someone else got it first somehow. it's mostly negligible though |
emester
03.29.16 | Been so used to Bloodborne's maneuver based combat that I think I need to replay DS 1 just acclimate myself to the tank esque and strategic combat.
Pretty fucking hyped for it but idk if anything in the series will top the world and atmosphere of Yharnam |
Gyromania
03.29.16 | bloodborne is a 9/10. dark souls 3 is a 10/10. best level design ever, and easily their best lineup of bosses |
Gyromania
03.29.16 | any of you guys want to see some screens? i'm about to post a bunch to my fb (don't worry, i won't show any bosses in them, or huge spoiler areas) |
elcrawfodor
03.29.16 | How hard is it going to be for someone who's only played Bloodborne? |
Gyromania
03.29.16 | not super hard tbh. you'll have to get used to rings and all the different weapons and what not, but the combat in this has taken a lot of inspiration from bloodborne. it might even be faster than bloodborne |
OwMySnauze
03.29.16 | Are the controls similar to BB? I've only played BB also. |
emester
03.29.16 | "it might even be faster than blood borne"
At first I was excited for DS3
This now is making me hype it to hell and back |
MeatSalad
03.29.16 | I never played BB since I play on PC but the combat and animations looked so fucking fluid and well done, glad to hear they've carried that on into DS3 |
Gyromania
03.29.16 | controls are very similar yes. it's still square to use items (this includes healing via estus flask, you no longer heal with triangle). to hold shield up is L1, to parry is L2, heavy attack R2, light attack R1, etc. pretty standard and easy to adapt to |
Gyromania
03.29.16 | yeah i'm excited to hear back from some of you guys about this game. it was easily my most anticipated game of the year and it somehow managed to exceed my unrealistically high expectations. |
emester
03.29.16 | Well BB was pretty much my favorite game from last year, once you get past my bias toward Bethesda games. Been hooked on the Souls franchise since. It may be a stretch but I feel From Software creates the best 3rd person combat in gaming currently |
Gyromania
03.29.16 | not a stretch at all. honestly all other 3rd person rpg combat games pale in comparison. fromsoft has set a really high expectation for this sort of thing |