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DinosaurJones 03.10.16	List is shit. Ambrose is awesome, but they're relying on him to carry 3 feuds. Triple H, Lesnar, and Owens. And the dude who's gonna be in the MAIN EVENT of WM is nowhere to be seen, and is not over by any means. They're booking themselves to hell with this one.
Feather 03.10.16	My friend convinced me it might be fun to go to a WWE show once... never again.
Calc 03.10.16	i remember that people thought the undertaker died and someone who looked just like him took his place. but like dinosaur himself said, wrestling is gay and fake blah blah other stuff people don't say anymore.
DinosaurJones 03.10.16	KANE IS THE UNDERTAKER THE UNDERTAKER IS KANE
Angelboros 03.10.16	THAT'S GOTTA BE KANE!
AlexKzillion 03.10.16	Haven't watched WWE since Edge retired. Inferring from this list, the WWE struggles hard at finding new people to replace the older stars, especially if the fucking undertaker is still doing shit at wrestlemania.
DinosaurJones 03.10.16	Part of it is that they have no idea what people want. People cheer heels these days. And they boo faces. They're trying so hard to get Roman Reigns over and it isn't working. They've been trying for like a year and a half, and the crowd just won't bite. Meanwhile, Dean Ambrose is possibly the most popular guy right now, is carrying three feuds, and is FINALLY starting to get some recognition. But yeah, the fact that they had to bring Jericho back, they brought Shane back, Undertaker is still around... and Orton and Cena are out of commission, things are looking pretty shabby.
Calc 03.10.16	i remember i watched for the first time in like 9 years a few years ago and a fucking leprechaun came out from under the ring and threw a chair in the ring i was like nope...
DinosaurJones 03.10.16	Yeah, they've had some bad moments. Shit, Trump shaved Vince McMahon's head back at WM23
rufinthefury 03.10.16	I want Ambrose to win at Road Block SO FUCKING BAD but I know that HHH is going over. but if Dambrose did get the W than we could have a Fatal Fucking Four Way at Wrestlemania with Dambrose going in as champ and HHH, Brock, and RR as challengers. That shit would be fucking legendary, especially if Dean retained. Fuck Roman.
DinosaurJones 03.10.16	I'd lose my shit if Ambrose wins on Saturday.
JeetJeet 03.10.16	I haven't watched in ages but I tuned into Raw recently and HHH is champion. Big Show was going up against Kevin Steen. 3 brothers were dancing and clapping with unicorn horns on their heads. None of that screams “Hey dude tune in next week to see what happens”, nor does it make me wanna buy this new network bullshit they're pushing.
rufinthefury 03.10.16	New Day is fucking hilarious brah, easily the most over group in WWE right now. Also HHH is just temp champ, there's no chance in hell he retains at Wrestlemania
torts 03.10.16	delete this list
oWhoadYo 03.10.16	Without Seth Rollins it's pretty difficult to watch. He, along with cesaro, and Kevin Owens are the best wrestlers they have
JeetJeet 03.10.16	I'm guessing the plan is for HHH to drop the title to the Samoan dude with greasy hair? What's that guy's deal? Is he any good? The last time I was actually invested in wrestling, CM Punk was sitting down cutting seemingly real promos and generally just being awesome. Now I'm trying to catch up and idk who's worth keeping an eye on. I know about Cesaro and Rollins and Owens. They were gods back before they made it big.
DinosaurJones 03.10.16	yeah, I'm really missing Rollins and Cesaro. Owens is great, as is Ambrose. The New Day are actually pretty awesome. Reigns... is not that good. AJ Styles is great. And honestly, NXT is way better than the main WWE product.
oWhoadYo 03.10.16	Everyone is total shit minus a couple guys. New day is cool. The divas are getting better. Charlotte is terrible thought. Flair needs to leave her side. Roman and Cena are the same guy. Lesnar is still a piece of shit. They are desperately trying to get viewers by bringing back older legends. Undertaker, Shane, sting blah blah blah. Neville, Rollins, ambrose, Owens, cesaro, lucha dragons, and new day are the only things keeping raw watchable. And even then, cesaro is never on, and Rollins fucked his knee. They book Neville like shit and ambrose has been getting the short end of the stick ever since the shield broke up. And still their biggest problem is that no one can cut a decent promo. That's the key. I know Rollins and Owens can cut promos. Deans been alright the past 2 weeks but everyone else is awful on the mic. Never ever let Roman or Cena have a big promo spot. It's just cringe the whole time
DinosaurJones 03.10.16	Yeah, Sasha and Becky are awesome, they can actually wrestle worth a damn (and are still super attractive). Cesaro is out on injury. But yeah, it's pretty bad when the best promo people on your show aren't wrestlers (Stephanie, Heyman). Heyman is a god on the mic
CalculatingInfinity 03.10.16	Bayley is the best, I just wanna hug her :D I'm scared I'll break the screen if I watch the current product so I just keep up with all the story lines and watch OSW Review/Botchamania/Bryan and Vinny.
DinosaurJones 03.10.16	I don't actually watch the weekly shows, I usually just read the Bleacher Report recaps and watch most of the PPVs (I have the Network).
CalculatingInfinity 03.10.16	Fair enough. It would be nice though one day to watch some Wrestling around a friend's house again though.
DinosaurJones 03.10.16	It sucks that guys that did great in NXT that got brought are being shafted so hard. Neville, the Ascension, Bo Dallas, Tyler Breeze... the only one worth anything is Owens.
torts 03.10.16	y'all are probably 25 and still watch wrestling smdh
DinosaurJones 03.10.16	26, actually.
CalculatingInfinity 03.10.16	Bored torts?
Cryptkeeper 03.10.16	Not a big fan of theater
Cryptkeeper 03.10.16	'26, actually.' Lmao
PortraitsOfDecay 03.10.16	I think I stopped watching wwe after Punk became the champ and that was like, 2011 or some shit? I just realized how long ago that is now that it's 2016 and I feel kinda old now, damn
DinosaurJones 03.10.16	Yeah, I definitely miss having Punk around. He kept things interesting.
SonofSnow 03.10.16	Spent around $500 for Wrestlemania and Raw tickets... damn you scalpers.
rufinthefury 03.10.16	damn man I'm super jealous. Becky Lynch is like my dream girl.
DinosaurJones 03.10.16	She is amazing.
Spec 03.10.16	been to some live shows recently and ambrose is so over i can hardly believe it
oWhoadYo 03.10.16	ew i dont like becky lynch. only divas i like are sasha and naomi
CalculatingInfinity 03.10.16	For all the shit he's been through in CZW Ambrose deserves it so much.
DinosaurJones 03.10.16	Yeah, but we know what happens when people get over when they don't have management behind them. Remember Zack Ryder from a few years ago?
torts 03.10.16	"Spent around $500 for Wrestlemania and Raw tickets... damn you scalpers." yea you might wanna kill yourself that's fucking ridiculous
Spec 03.10.16	once reigns gets his title back im hoping he or ambrose turns heel and ambrose takes it all
CalculatingInfinity 03.10.16	Ambrose is associated with Roman and Seth due to the shield so he won't be shafted THAT badly,
CaliggyJack 03.10.16	Becky Lynch and Sasha Banks are amazing. Also I want a Dean Ambrose WWE championship win.
Spec 03.10.16	paige tho why has everyone forgot
DinosaurJones 03.10.16	Paige is like my dream girl.
CaliggyJack 03.10.16	Paige is a great wrestler. But she is shite on the mic.
Spec 03.10.16	i think she's aiight on the mic, her last character was dumb tho but thats not her fault
DinosaurJones 03.10.16	THIS IS MY HOUSE Yes, yes it is. May I come in?
Spec 03.10.16	she was more over than sasha when i went just a little bit but it was impressive
rufinthefury 03.10.16	Becky has the chops and the looks. best male wrestler on the roster is AJ right now. my fav is Cesaro though I cannot wait until he comes back
DinosaurJones 03.10.16	Cesaro was really getting over before his injury, and they didn't do anything with him. Now Barrett is probably leaving too, which sucks because he's awesome and being wasted. They also need to end the Stardust gimmick and just bring back Cody Rhodes.
CalculatingInfinity 03.10.16	"They also need to end the Stardust gimmick and just bring back Cody Rhodes." Please no
DinosaurJones 03.10.16	Cody Rhodes was pretty over. Stardust is... not. I dunno, I think I'm just over the whole Stardust thing.
rufinthefury 03.10.16	Cody wants to be Stardust. Has to do with his father's words before he died (RIP American Dream). I say let him be who he wants to be and honestly he KILLS as Stardust. He's so good at all the little things. Plus his match with the Arrow was super cool.
DinosaurJones 03.10.16	I'm not saying he's bad at it, I just think he isn't being utilized well. He's gone from upper-midcard to being pretty low. He's a super talented dude.
AlexKzillion 03.10.16	The song they just announced for Wrestlemania is the greatest song of all time.
DominionMM1 03.10.16	be a man?
AlexKzillion 03.11.16	https://www.instagram.com/p/BCyfch2jX14/?taken-by=avengedsevenfold&hl=en
HeckToPay 03.11.16	this years mania card (other than the main even, but im over it) is pretty exciting so far tbh.
rufinthefury 03.11.16	the main event sucks though
SonofSnow 03.11.16	yea you might wanna kill yourself that's fucking ridiculous it's a bit much yeah, but I've never been to a WM, don't have to play for a flight and only need a hotel for one night. Justified it as seeing one of Taker's last manias.
MyNameIsPencil 03.11.16	i remember watching the undertaker, big show, kane, hardy brothers, hurricane, THE ROCK, Stone Cold, ect. when I was 5 holy shit the undertaker is still working damn
tragic.details 03.11.16	NXT is the best thing the company has going for it right now. Watching RAW, while certainly enjoyable at times and worth watching for matches like last week's incredible Y2AJ vs. New Day match, is often a chore even on its best nights. Nontheless, I'm excited for 'Mania weekend. Takeover: Dallas is going to be awesome, and there will undoubtedly be some great matches at 'Mania itself.
SonofSnow 03.11.16	Y2AJ vs New Day is one of the best non-gimmick tag matches WWE has ever done.
tragic.details 03.11.16	Couldn't agree more. and AJ hit his most fluid springboard DDT since his debut, it was great! Also, after watching SD, I have to say if anyone had told me four years ago that Kevin Steen and a ginger Arab, El Generico copycat would be on MizTV, and Chris Jericho would burn an AJ Styles t-shirt on the same episode of Smackdown, I would have laughed in their face. People complain a lot, but we're experiencing a pro wrestling renaissance, and definitely not just in the WWE.
LunaticSoul 03.11.16	I was a huge wrestling fan in my teens (like 10 years ago). Stopped watching WWE in 2005 as the product was unappealing to me, too much focus on what's beyond the ring and not on good matches instead. I watched TNA and ROH mostly as one was the right mixture between entertainment off and on the ring and ROH, well, most of the times was a spotfest and who doesn't love continuous spotfests? I haven't watched anything for years, then I discovered my favourite wrestler of all time - AJ Styles - just debuted in WWE and I've been reading tapings for a couple of weeks and seeing the highlights of his matches. I've also watched a whole match from his NJPW stint against Shinsuke Nakamura, good stuff. Still not ready to watch any WWE though.
tragic.details 03.11.16	@LunaticSoul AJ's relatively brief run with New Japan is probably the highlight of his career -- the whole two years. I don't think there was ever a dull moment. Also, not sure if you're familiar with NXT or not, but if you're looking to getting back into pro wrestling, that's the best place to start. It's what got me hooked again last year, and now with guys like Samoa Joe, Austin Aries, and Shinsuke Nakamura down there, it's more worth watching now than ever. ROH and NJPW are great too, and I've even heard that TNA has been picking it up the past few months.
SonofSnow 03.11.16	AJ's NJPW reinvigorated his career. Was voted Wrestler of the Year last year because of it. PWG and NJPW are my go tos for wanting a more "pure" wrestling experience. Consistently great matches in the upper card.
DinosaurJones 03.11.16	Yeah, if you think WWE is a trainwreck, I wouldn't even know what to refer to TNA as.
ExhaleTheLight 03.11.16	I came back into the product during CM Punk's 365+ title reign. Man there is so much ups and downs with this company. Mostly downs #PushAmbrose
tragic.details 03.11.16	PWG is by and far one of the best things going in pro wrestling right now. I'm way behind on their shit, though, haven't watched anything since last year's BOLA. Lucha Underground is another great alternative for those burned out on WWE. I think Meltzer mentioned in the Observer that they're working on a deal to get the first season on Netflix. Really hope it happens; it needs the exposure big time.
Spec 03.11.16	If they get lucha underground on Netflix it's gonna take over the world.
SonofSnow 03.11.16	Going to a Lucha Underground show in Austin as part of SXSW next week. I need to get caught up on the show.
rufinthefury 03.12.16	i need to get started on LU. i plan on marathoning that if it hits Netflix.
BigPleb 03.12.16	CM Punk was the PG era for me, his pipe bombs and overall charisma were like a hark back to the Attitude era. Still plenty of talent on the roster tho, just the booking is inconsistent as hell.
rufinthefury 03.12.16	PG Era for me is John Cena through and through. for sure he was around in Ruthless Aggression, a pretty big piece of it even, but he just defines PG Era wrestling. great in the ring, golden on the mic, hated by all.
SparkToBelieve 03.12.16	john cena
DinosaurJones 03.12.16	I keep seeing ads for Lucha Underground. Definitely interested. Partly because John Morrison is on it.
tragic.details 03.12.16	Anyone else gonna catch Roadblock tonight? Doubtful that Dean will actually win but the match should still be good. It'll also be interesting to see whether either the WWE or NXT tag titles change hands before 'Mania weekend.
DinosaurJones 03.12.16	I'll try and catch it, but I'm not sure if I'm gonna be home. If I am, I'll watch it.
Spec 03.13.16	Found a stream. I'll check this out.
rufinthefury 03.13.16	watching Road Block was not blue balls, it was jizzing and then having the jizz forcefully re-enter your dick hole
CalculatingInfinity 03.13.16	What happened?
Spec 03.13.16	The matches were all pretty great tho.
DinosaurJones 03.14.16	The matches were good, but the results were about what you'd expect. No way they were actually going to change anything this close to WM.
ExhaleTheLight 03.14.16	The main event just proves that Ambrose belongs on top. He was awesome and brought something new to that match.
tragic.details 03.14.16	For sure. It's a shame they're going with Reigns instead. Not hating or anything, he's got a ton of potential but he's just not ready. Ambrose on the other hand is main event material now. His match with Lesnar at 'Mania is going to make or break him. Most likely the former.
Dotcommy 03.14.16	I've never met anyone smart that likes wrestling. Confession time: who here has an IQ above 80. Be honest.
tragic.details 03.14.16	Dude, don't be a dick. If you don't like it or understand it, that's fine, but no one wants to hear about it.
anat 03.14.16	Wrestling being for dum-dums is a way outdated trope lads.
Yotimi 03.14.16	lol it's true though so can it really be outdated? jk like what you want fellas, but it's really stupid to me too
anat 03.14.16	It's the same as any other form of entertainment tho, it's stupid in the same way that the walking dead is stupid, every fanbase has plebs
DinosaurJones 03.14.16	I do find it weird that wrestling gets so much more hate than any other fake, scripted television show. It's not the 80s anymore. We know it isn't real.
HeckToPay 03.14.16	i heard a rumor that mr kennedy/anderson is returning to raw tonight. hopefully that's not bs but it probably is
Titan 03.14.16	I was at Wrestlemania 2 (the portion at Nassau Coliseum). It was epic.
tragic.details 03.14.16	Never been to 'Mania, or any other live show myself. Moving to FL in a few weeks, so hopefully I'll make it to 33 next year. Also, I'd be surprised to see Kennedy/Anderson make a return. He talked a lot of shit on WWE when he left, and very recently did the same to TNA. He is the exact opposite of a consummate professional. It's far more likely we'll see Kurt Angle return tonight, but even that is a huge stretch.
DinosaurJones 03.15.16	BANG BANG
anat 03.15.16	Neville broke his ankle, shit was 90 degrees
DinosaurJones 03.15.16	On RAW? I didn't see it. That sucks if true.
anat 03.15.16	Yeah, when he slid thru Jericho's legs his foot got caught under him. Jericho called an audible and rolled him up but Lil Naitch didn't realise so didn't count the 3, Jericho shoved him to force a DQ. Here's a slow mo of the injury: http://twitter.com/LuchaMax/status/709582843488370688
tragic.details 03.15.16	Really sucks for Neville. Dude is gonna miss his first 'Mania. I can only wonder who is going to replace him in the multi-man IC match. Hopefully Stardust or Tyler Breeze. Also, that Foley/Ambrose segment was great; best of the night! The Ziggler/HHH match was really damn good too.
DinosaurJones 03.15.16	Yeah, Neville has a fractured ankle. Sucks. I also think the multi-man for the IC title kind of stinks. Owens is great, and deserves a good feud. The Ambrose feud was good, I wish they had started building Sami Zayn earlier so they could have a good 1 on 1 match rather than a multi-man spotfest.
tragic.details 03.15.16	I agree. I understand the need for multi-man matches, since they try to get as many people on the card for 'Mania as possible, but the US title would have been far better suited for it. I wouldn't be surprised if, now with Neville's injury, that they decide to cut Miz out and just move forward with Owens vs. Zayn in a singles match. They're stretched thin as it and unless they plan on completely cutting the ARMBAR this year, they're going to need more guys for Beef Stroganov to strong man through the ARMBAR.
DinosaurJones 03.15.16	I have to admit that I don't find Kalisto v Ryback compelling at all. It's just another David vs Goliath scenario that they did with Mysterio all the time. Neither of them are exactly the most charismatic dudes. Meanwhile Owens is basically made of natural heat, and they're pretty much squandering him.
tragic.details 03.15.16	Owens is the Intercontinental Champion. I'd hardly call that being squandered. Sure, he absolutely deserves a higher spot on the card, and he'll get there in time. It's barely even been a year since he joined the company, and the dude is in a great spot compared to some of the other NXT alumni. Plus, it's pretty clear the dude loves being Intercontinental Champ, and I really think that he could elevate the belt back to the same heights it held when guys like The Rock and Triple H were feuding over it.
ExhaleTheLight 03.16.16	Not the biggest Roman Reigns fan but is it me or did the crowd ruin the energy he was bringing? He was trying his best but no dice
DinosaurJones 03.16.16	He tries hard, I'll give him that. And he's definitely improved, but the crowd just isn't biting.
ExhaleTheLight 03.16.16	Wrestlemania seems to be meh this year. Lesnar vs. Ambrose was a dream match for me. Triple H vs. Roman Reigns will probably be good but it's not something I'm looking foward to. Very skeptical with Shane vs. The Undertaker. Hopefully they add Zayn vs. Owens on the card
anat 03.16.16	Mania is coming together a lot better than I was expecting after the Rumble, especially considering all the injuries. Lesnar/Ambrose is a better match than Lesnar/Wyatt, Shane/Taker has the WTF factor, New Day as faces against LoN will be great, Styles/Jericho will be great, Divas Triple Threat should be great, whatever the IC Title gets will probably be alright. That's enough right there to potentially make it a Top 10 Mania. And I think the main event will be better than most expect, and at best it'll be fun to see AT&T booing Reigns at the close.
DinosaurJones 03.16.16	It's shaping up pretty well, I think it's interesting how the card is such a weird mesh of part-timers/older guys and relatively newer guys. I feel like the only in-between candidates would have been Orton, Cena & Daniel Bryan
tragic.details 03.16.16	'Mania weekend as a whole is shaping up really great. That Friday is Takeover, and the card is absolutely stacked for that, and EVOLVE 58 is earlier that afternoon, with Tommy End set to return from injury to team with Chris Hero. EVOLVE 59 is on Saturday, that'll be worth it for Ricochet vs. Will Ospreay alone, and of course, 'Mania is on Sunday. The IC match could potentially steal the show depending on who is in it. Ambrose vs. Lesnar looks like it's going to be a bloodbath. Roman and HHH will be great, regardless of the outcome. It's gonna be a good weekend.
DinosaurJones 03.16.16	I'll definitely check it out. To be honest, my interest definitely fluctuates, there are periods where I don't actually watch at all, but I usually get back into it during WM season.
Spec 03.16.16	Happy 3:16 day.
DinosaurJones 03.16.16	HELL YEAH
tragic.details 03.17.16	Sad news today as Sting has confirmed he is officially retired because of his neck being so fucked up.
DinosaurJones 03.17.16	Yeah, I was reading about that as well. It sucks, but he's what, 56? It's pretty understandable.
tragic.details 03.17.16	Yeah, his time was definitely coming to an end. In hindsight, his final match against Rollins for the belt has some serious Rocky vibes. Very fitting end for a 30+ year career.
DinosaurJones 03.18.16	I really think HHH needs to retain at WM. That's weird, but Reigns is just not getting the desired reaction. Sure, Cena is polarizing, but people still like him, for the most part. He's become the guy people love to hate. Reigns, however, is just not getting the right reaction. They had to pipe in cheers for him on the Smackdown taping. The crowd does not want him as champion. He's supposed to be the plucky underdog, but people are cheering when he gets the hell beaten out of him. It is not the right choice to give him the strap, IMO.
Cimnele 03.18.16	haven't though about wrestling for some time TBH. is anything now as good as ROH was in 2005-2008?
anat 03.18.16	Tyler Black was WWE World Champion for like 200 days, bro
DinosaurJones 03.18.16	There are some good things and some bad things, for sure. Good: Ambrose Lesnar New Day Bad: Directionless, passionless feuds WWE trying their damnedest to get Roman Reigns over Injury plagued roster Not sure if good or bad: Shane vs Undertaker
Spec 03.22.16	Who caught that botchamania plug?
someguest 03.22.16	The WWE has generals?
Spec 03.22.16	holy what a terrible joke
someguest 03.22.16	l o l
DinosaurJones 03.22.16	BA-DUM TSHHHHHH
rufinthefury 04.04.16	fuck this company
oWhoadYo 04.04.16	Don't know about anyone else, but I thought it was a great wrestlemania. Minus the awful Lesnar v ambrose and reigns v H matches
DinosaurJones 04.04.16	I didn't see it yet, I was out last night. Gonna watch it after work today. Tried to avoid spoilers, but they post everything on FB like 2 minutes after it happened, so I know some results.
oWhoadYo 04.04.16	Damn, if you know the surprises don't bother lol
DinosaurJones 04.04.16	I know the results of the main event and the triple threat match, but the rest is still a mystery. And I still want to see them regardless of knowing the results, haha.
CalculatingInfinity 04.04.16	All I'll say is I fucking love The New Day's entrance lol
rufinthefury 04.04.16	yeah oh my god everyone i was watching Mania with marked the fuck out for that New Day entrance. but man. great, great matches in in terms of the in-ring performances but the endings were just so shit. I mean, spoiler alert, but they booked this show as if Roman Reigns was a babyface. GUESS WHAT? HE FUCKING ISN'T. the show was just plain demoralizing. at least NXT Takeover: Dallas was great, and I mean fucking incredible. That pay per view was much better than Mania.
DinosaurJones 04.04.16	Takeover was great, I just kind of have the assumption that it's better than WM, because NXT is usually better than the main product.
CalculatingInfinity 04.04.16	I'm just glad everyone loved NXT, I don't watch it anymore but I want it to do well and succeed.
rufinthefury 04.04.16	It was just a phenomenal, phenomenal pay per view. Takeover had five matches all competing for match of the night (although Nakamura v Zayn is clearly the winner) and there were no gimmicks, DQs, run ins, whatever. Just good wrestling and storytelling.
CalculatingInfinity 04.04.16	As I've read, they need to give Nakamura super special booking. I think if he stays in NXT a while I think he may have more chance to be a big name on the main roster than AJ.
BigPleb 04.04.16	Shane jumping off the cell was the highlight of Mania, should've been the main event instead of the snooze fest that was Triple H vs Roman
rufinthefury 04.04.16	it had more importance to the story than the title match itself too! i mean the end result is same-old same-old but in kayfabe it should have been top of the card because it had the most repercussions; it directly effected the title match! also I cannot believe they gave Jericho the rub. the feud has gone on long enough, they should have squashed it. they're 2-2 now which means we will probably see the feud end at Extreme Rules but ITS FUCKING MANIA. END IT HERE.
vivalove 04.04.16	I think another gem within the roster is Bray Wyatt. That dude cuts some seriously great promos, all off the cuff. I just wish he didn't have Braun or Erik or Luke following him.. he was cooler on his own.
BigBalls 04.04.16	They don't make WWE characters as strong as they used to. They need to bring back Scott Steiner.
BigBalls 04.04.16	Agreed, they gotta stop burying Bray.
TedSchmosby 04.04.16	Shane committing sudoku was wild
rufinthefury 04.04.16	I cannot believe they gave the Rock 30 minutes to bury the Wyatt's. holy shit it was bad. I am so, so sick of the Rock he is not charismatic or funny at all anymore.
Spec 04.04.16	Pretty good even but the main event was awful and burying the wyatts again was dumb.
anat 04.04.16	Too many dumb results last night. If RAW doesn't give me enough tonight I think I'm gonna have to tap out.
Spec 04.04.16	Should have said "then it's time to kick out."
anat 04.04.16	I could have but they've fucking beaten me to a pulp with bad booking. I'll kick out if RAW is amazing, tho
Spec 04.04.16	Haha yeah I'm all in for Raw too
rufinthefury 04.04.16	yep I'm charging up my FIGHTING SPIRITTTUUUUU for tonight's RAW. if I'm not wowed I just won't watch anymore for a while. I think I might just make the jump to only watching Lucha Underground and NXT.
JizzInMyPants 04.04.16	holy crap chris Jericho looks old now, I remember when I was watching wrestling, he was the long-haired pretty boy, now he looks like a dad, fuck time.
Spec 04.04.16	He doesn't wrestle like an old man tho!
oWhoadYo 04.04.16	Was so upset that brock dean didnt spill backstage or even spill blood at all. No excitement in that match, easily the worst of the night. So sad because dean is so fucking great. Not only the mic but as a wrestler. But thats what you getwhen you book brock in anything. Easily the worst on the roster right now, behind our heavyweight champ of course
rufinthefury 04.04.16	here's the thing about WWE, they only want one top guy. Dean Ambrose is hands down the most popular working face on the roster right now, everyone loves him. They could not have him and Brock tear down the house because then it would overshadow Roman. They specifically chose to have their match short when they CLEARLY had a ton of time as shown by the Rock segment and the very long Undertaker match. "But thats what you getwhen you book brock in anything. Easily the worst on the roster right now, behind our heavyweight champ of course" are you fucking stupid? Brock is a phenomenal worker.
Spec 04.05.16	Lots of shit went down tonight. Cool to see some call ups to help deal with the injury situation.
rufinthefury 04.05.16	yeah it was a weird RAW but the fatal fourway at the end was fucking phenomenal
Spec 04.05.16	Yeah agreed. Probs gonna skip smackdown as usual but if I have time I'll tune into next weeks raw.
DinosaurJones 04.05.16	Brock is a great worker, but it's impossible to book him as anything but dominant. They've made him truly unbeatable unless there is some kind of crazy stipulation or a huge team up situation. They've booked themselves into a corner with him because it's hard to buy anyone beating him legitimately.
JizzInMyPants 04.05.16	How much control does a wrestler have over their career? Seems to me that if the writers doesn't want you to become a name, you won't become a name, atleast in the WWE.
DinosaurJones 04.05.16	It's hard to tell. Look at Zack Ryder, he got over on his own initiative, and then got pushed into a story where he got shit on by Eve Torres and Kane and was used to attempt to get Cena even more over, and then was shoved back down into the lowcard. They gave him the IC title at WM, but he already lost it the next night, and probably won't be getting it back. Dean Ambrose is one of the most over guys on the roster, and is pretty much being pushed as "the tough guys who loses all the time because he doesn't know when to quit."
CalculatingInfinity 04.05.16	"How much control does a wrestler have over their career? " In WWE very little. It is mostly determined by your relationship to Triple H, Vince and the writing staff hopefully not giving you shit. Like you should be extremely talented but there's only so much you can do.
DinosaurJones 04.05.16	I also have to say that I'm super disappointed with what they did with the Rock at WM. Yes, I know he's insanely popular, but to have him squash the Wyatts really sucked. When's the next time the Rock is even going to be in the ring, and the Wyatts are full time competitors whose credibility is quickly going down the drain. They're supposed to be dominant, and they are rarely seeming to be so.
rufinthefury 04.05.16	I'm so done with the Rock. die rocky die.
erizen826 04.05.16	Shane O'Mac's balls are so fucking huge.
DinosaurJones 04.05.16	Shane is the man. He's always delivered every time he's stepped in the ring.
CalculatingInfinity 04.05.16	King of the Ring 2000 with Kurt so good.
DinosaurJones 04.05.16	Man, what is Kurt even doing these days? Is he still with TNA? Is he also still semi-insane? I remember reading some stories about how he'd like one last run in the WWE, but there are probably some issues there, from both sides.
CalculatingInfinity 04.05.16	Doing random stuff on the indie circuit, I hope he's happy. Top 3 wrestlers ever.
BigBalls 04.05.16	Well, Cesaro's back at least.
Storm In A Teacup 11.15.16	lot's of change in 7 months
DinosaurJones 11.15.16	No kidding. At least one thing hasn't changed. The shameless pushing of Roman Reigns. Who do they put at the head of the RAW Survivor Series team on all the posters? Is it the Universal Champ, Kevin Owens? NOPE. It's the US Champ, Roman Reigns!
BallsToTheWall 11.15.16	Ladt night was lit as fuck. So crazy seeing Big Cass and Enzo pairing up with karl and Luke.
Storm In A Teacup 11.15.16	haven't watched in a couple months but I liked that Dean Ambrose was champion for a good short-ish run. Really liked the Aj Styles and Ambrose matches. I look up all the Jericho and Owens segments still though because, come on, best thing about raw I'm sure and like,,, the only thing worth paying attention to on that show
Storm In A Teacup 11.15.16	It's hard to watch even now because we all know John Clinton is coming for the GOAT coronation at Royal Rumble/WrestleMania.
BallsToTheWall 11.15.16	AJ Styles would be more fuckable if he got rid of that god damn soccer mom haircut. Seth Rollins face turn has been great too.
DinosaurJones 11.15.16	I haven't watched recently either, but I keep up with the news. I really hope the Cruiserweights don't get shit on again, they put on amazing matches, but there is 0 story apart from Kendrick and Perkins. And yes, best things are still Jeri-KO, and Styles. Not sure if I enjoy or hate James Ellsworth yet.
calmrose 11.15.16	I'm feeling rather lukewarm about Survivor Series this Sunday Am intrigued by Lesnar vs. GOOOOLLLLLDDDDBBEEERRRGGG although the match will probably be nothing special, WWE has handled the build-up surprisingly well though
Storm In A Teacup 11.15.16	they've handled it well because it's not important or significant
DinosaurJones 11.15.16	I still have the same feeling I had about Lesnar as I did 7 months ago. They've booked themselves into a hole with him. He's an unstoppable beast who can't be stopped credibly by anyone. I will be AMAZED if they have Greenberg go over, seeing as I doubt he's sticking around. The only way Goldfinger goes over is if he's sticking around and loses the feud in the end.
CalculatingInfinity 11.15.16	I love James Ellsworth haha, I hope Survivor Series is now going to live up to its name. Also Goldberg still has the best entrance ever.
Storm In A Teacup 11.15.16	I've seen some of the clips and Goldberg has just been in there talking sleeping pills and same with Heyman. Didn't see last night what happened but I don't really care either. Goldberg beat Lesnar last time at WrestleMania. If Goldberg wins again who cares? Not me. Lesnar should win.
CalculatingInfinity 11.15.16	Goldberg came back just for a one time deal for his son so Brock is most likely going to win.
DinosaurJones 11.15.16	Agreed, Lesnar should win. But who the hell gets the rub off of him, eventually?
Storm In A Teacup 11.15.16	I don't want the Intercontinental title to switch, but the cruiserweight's have got to go to smackdown to save their existence.
Storm In A Teacup 11.15.16	Rub off Lesnar? A few people
DinosaurJones 11.15.16	James Ellsworth pins Lesnar after a No Chin Music
Storm In A Teacup 11.15.16	Big E (Woods manager on mic vs Heyman manager on mic), CM Punk (big if true, makes you think), Kevin Owens, Dolph Ziggler (they did build up his wrestling cred, he has been the comeback kid for wwe for the last 5 years), Braun Strowman, I can probably think of a couple others
CalculatingInfinity 11.15.16	I'd want Kevin Owens to get the rub personally, he's so talented.
Storm In A Teacup 11.15.16	tbh Big E should be the first African American WWE champion, they always with African americans gave them the secondary title. Big E should headline wrestlemania with woods and kofi backing him
Storm In A Teacup 11.15.16	Big E beats Lesnar at wrestlemania for the title, ya
DinosaurJones 11.15.16	Realistically (going by WWE logic), the only ones I see out of that are Punk (if he ever comes back, which probably won't happen), and Strowman, which I would consider a waste. Owens would be interesting. I could see them trying to do it with Finn Balor, but that would be a stretch. He's a great athlete, but he's only 190 pounds. Who I would REALLY want to see is Shinsuke Nakamura.
Storm In A Teacup 11.15.16	Samoa Joe possibly but he's too old probably
CalculatingInfinity 11.15.16	Big E's too much of a comedic character to get the championship, they've never let a comedy gimmick be the champion for a decent run ever.
DinosaurJones 11.15.16	Yeah, I wouldn't see them putting Joe over, combo of his age and the fact that he wasn't a "WWE talent."
CalculatingInfinity 11.15.16	They pushed Balor to the moon before injury, so possible. Beast vs Demon, I like it. Nakamura is basically real life Dante but his promos = No champ.
Storm In A Teacup 11.15.16	Big E is a comedic character now but he hasn't always been and he won't always be one. just wait for it. let them break the record and then a big change will take place
Storm In A Teacup 11.15.16	lol Balor's demon gimmick is dumb as fuck
BallsDeep 11.15.16	lol a few of my friends claim ALL wrestling is fake and staged, i tell em to keep wearing their tinfoil hats lets the chemtrails from tupacs private jet get them
BallsToTheWall 11.15.16	Balor would never beat Lesnar.
BallsToTheWall 11.15.16	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKlzk9H91dA Still my favorite.
CalculatingInfinity 11.15.16	"he's about to be a dead man, that's the dumbest man on the planet" "lol Balor's demon gimmick is dumb as fuck" I love it :c
BallsToTheWall 11.15.16	"The good news is you eventually woke up. And you probably had a sweet dream. A dream like you actually beating The Undertaker." LMAO!
DinosaurJones 11.15.16	I love Nakamura. I hope his hype transfers over when he makes it to the main roster. Same with Asuka.
DinosaurJones 11.15.16	Also, if they REALLY wanted to get behind Sami Zayn, which it looks like they don't want to do, he'd be a good pick to beat Lesnar in an upset.
calmrose 11.15.16	"lol Balor's demon gimmick is dumb as fuck" I love it :c [2] Balor's demon is awesome
ExhaleTheLight 11.15.16	ELLLLLLSSSSSSWWWOOOORRRRTTHHHH
BallsToTheWall 11.15.16	Shane going over the top rope with Braun was pretty fuckin cool.
DinosaurJones 11.16.16	Holy shit, Nia Jax looked dead after that spear through the barricade. She just went through and then 0 movement. Either amazing selling or she knocked herself out, lol.
Storm In A Teacup 11.16.16	so I guess Undertaker is back as a regular on smackdown for one last run and implies that this is his official last run and no appearance at wrestlemania. looks like team raw will win the main event and undertaker will feud with everyone on team smackdown also, someone needs to get injured on team raw so that ziggler can be on the team. ziggler better be on a survivor series style match and he better last forever and eliminate >2 wrestlers
Storm In A Teacup 11.16.16	also, calling it that James Elsworth goes full blown heel turn and gets Coach level types of heat by betraying smackdown and becoming stephanies lapdog
DinosaurJones 11.16.16	Ellsworth blows it for Team Smackdown, gets Tombstoned by Undertaker and is never seen again.
Storm In A Teacup 11.16.16	no, apparently vince personally likes ellsworth a lot and thinks he's smart (runs his own wrestling company and is an independent wrestler outside wwe and his own ring company) and is considering giving him a full fuckin contract lol.
DinosaurJones 11.16.16	Damn. That's crazy. To be fair, his shirt (which I thought was a joke) is one of the highest sellers. Still think it's kind of lame that Shane-O is on team SD. I think he's great, but that spot should go to a full timer.
Storm In A Teacup 11.16.16	DOLPH ZIGGLER
Storm In A Teacup 11.16.16	If I was in charge of smackdown I would pick on dolph ziggler before every tv taping and tell him he's nobody and a loser and then I would give him a 15 minute promo to say whatever he wants before a 20 minute match. Repeat every week.
DinosaurJones 11.16.16	Yeah, don't know what the hell they're doing with him. Can't believe he lost the IC title again. Maybe a triple threat will happen between Miz, Zayn, and Ziggler
Storm In A Teacup 11.16.16	no I don't want that cuz clearly IC title and CW are switching brands. Raw women win, Smackdown tag teams win, Raw men singles team wins. If Ziggler doesn't appear on survivor series I'm taking that as a sign he's going to be going to Raw. Which is a good thing.
DinosaurJones 11.16.16	IC and US title both on RAW though? Seems like overkill. Plus they're making a cruiserweight exclusive webshow called the 205 or something like that.
Storm In A Teacup 11.16.16	yeah and it's on right after smackdown is on lol so
Spec 11.16.16	the cruiserweight division is so lame gotta stop changing the colour of the ropes and make them feel like part of the show
BallsToTheWall 11.16.16	Holy shit, Nia Jax looked dead after that spear through the barricade. She just went through and then 0 movement (2) Ziggler's the man.
Storm In A Teacup 11.16.16	honestly Ziggler should go to Raw and should get one more story vs the Authority on Raw and he should do something to piss them off or go against them before the Rumble and get put in number one in the Rumble and then win the rumble eliminating Miz last lmao........... ..........they should do that and not the john cena bullshit i'm so afraid is going to happen
DinosaurJones 11.16.16	Cruiserweight division is sucking because there is 0 character development outside of Kendrick & Perkins.
Spec 11.16.16	ya not saying it's the wrestlers faults just feels like they're supposed to fail so the company can be like "see? told you so!!"
DinosaurJones 11.17.16	You'd think with 3 hours a night, they could devote some more time to them, but they're not very good at running a 3 hour show... that's part of why Smackdown is so much better, I think. It's much more streamlined.
calmrose 11.17.16	totally forgot TakeOver is this Saturday hope Nakamura vs Joe II is better than their first go (first match was good but felt like they were holding back a bit), you guys think Joe gets called up soon after this? (I don't see him winning with them trying to make Nakamura the face of NXT like Balor) also, the 2-out-of-3 Falls Match between The Revival and #DIY for the tag team championships should be a stellar match, stoked for this
DinosaurJones 11.17.16	Possibly. I want both Nakamura and Joe to be called up, but I don't know who would be pegged to be champ if they were both gone. but Joe should be called up soon, yeah. Definitely looking forward to the tag match. I don't know the full card though.
calmrose 11.17.16	those two matches, Asuka vs. Mickie James for women's championship, TM61 vs. The Authors of Pain for the Dusty Rhodes Tag Team Classic final (with Paul Ellering to be suspended above the ring in a shark cage...wtf lol), and Tye Dillinger vs. Bobby Roode
DinosaurJones 11.17.16	Damn. It's so easy to be hyped for all those matches. Why don't I feel this way about most WWE events? Asuka vs. Mickie should be awesome. I love Asuka, and Mickie was always great. When did she leave TNA? Was she doing indies for awhile? I'm not big on the Authors of Pain, but it should still be a decent match. Looking forward to the shark cage. Dillinger vs Roode should be good. Dillinger needs more of a push.
calmrose 11.17.16	yeah I'm more excited for this than Survivor Series I think, though Taker most likely making an appearance has peaked my interest more I think James left TNA in 2013 then made an appearance again in 2015 and has been doing some indie stuff as well and yeah, Dillinger definitely needs more of a push, though there's no way Roode loses this match
DinosaurJones 11.17.16	I think part of the reason NXT is better is because matches usually end clean. There are so many Dusty/convoluted finishes in the main product that they don't mean shit. So much interference, so many DQs, or behind the ref's back dirty moves. They're afraid to make people look bad.
calmrose 11.17.16	agree 100%, especially when it comes to heels, it's like they can't write a strong heel anymore and they (heels) have to win by constant shenanigans, it get's annoying and tiring so fast and WWE has be doing this for years now
DinosaurJones 11.17.16	For certain guys, I understand it. Miz, for example. But dudes like Owens and Rusev should have no issue winning clean believably. Rusev's build was phenomenal, then they had to feed him to Cena and he hasn't been the same since. Owens has the goods to win on his own. Bray Wyatt should be winning in general, as well as winning clean. Even Styles should be winning clean. But NOPE.
birds 11.17.16	miz is a wonderful heel (although him winning the ic title tuesday was VERY questionable, especially in the way he didn't, like fuck what a stupid roll up) wwe does need a lot more extremely dominant heels and/or eva marie
DinosaurJones 11.17.16	Miz works very well as a cowardly heel, Maryse only helps that (in addition to still being smoking hot). But the closest thing WWE has to a monster heel is Strowman... which I can buy, but feeding him jobbers for months isn't doing much for me. Though we DID get James Ellsworth out of it.
JeetJeet 11.17.16	Is this company still treating Bray and the Family like trash? What's going on with the Bullet Club? Is Goldberg gonna just be a one-and-done type thing? I'm out of the loop and need answers.
DinosaurJones 11.17.16	I'm not sure what they're doing with the family. Strowman is on RAW, Rowan is out on injury, so currently Wyatt and Harper are on SD, and Orton is with them for now, but I see that ending soon. As a whole though, they aren't pushed as much as they should be and lose a majority of the time, which I don't understand. The crowd loves them though. Bullet Club doesn't really exist. Styles is on SD, Gallows & Anderson are on RAW, Balor is on RAW, but is currently injured. He was champ his first night, but had to vacate the title, so no idea what the plan was there. I ASSUME Goldberg is gonna be one and done, but who knows. They might keep him around for a little while, but I see him losing to Lesnar on Sunday.
rufinthefury 11.17.16	I'm pretty excited for Takeover on Saturday but I greatly fear that Cien will lose to Cedric Alexander and I desperately want Cien to win because HES FUCKING LA SOMBRA
DinosaurJones 11.17.16	I dunno man, they were squashing Cien as a face, and generally a heel turn means you're gonna lose even more.
JeetJeet 11.17.16	what in the hell are they doing? Orton with The Wyatt's? WHAT?!? Are they trying to pull the same shit they did with Daniel Bryan where he infiltrates them? And what's the point of bringing Goldberg back to have him lose and never be seen again? I really don't get what they're doing man. What logical reason would you have to split the Bullet Club up?
DinosaurJones 11.17.16	I think that's the idea. Orton infiltrates the family. To what end, I have no idea. Goldberg coming back seems to be twofold. He wanted to wrestle one more time for his son. In the case of facing Lesnar, I (as I have repeatedly said, lol) feel like they've booked themselves into a corner where no one can beat him credibly. I mean, yeah, Goldberg coming back is cool, but the dude has been away from the ring for TWELVE YEARS. And it doesn't even seem like he's sticking around. As for the Club, I feel like they had plans with Balor, Anderson & Gallows. They did a tease at a PPV, but then Balor got injured. And it sucks because Anderson and Gallows should be getting more of a push, but their booking has been shit. I love the New Day, but they really should have lost the titles.
JeetJeet 11.17.16	Cruiserweight division looks pretty lit not gonna lie. My guy Brian Kendrick getting his shine on. I'm supposed to watch SS with my lil cousin this weekend and I gotta catch up with everything going on. This Ellsworth guy with no chin is gold.
DinosaurJones 11.17.16	NO CHIN MUSIC. I love Kendrick, I was super hyped when he was getting that push a few years ago as THE Brian Kendrick and they had him in that championship scramble match.
JeetJeet 11.17.16	I feel like Ellsworth is gonna be WWE's very own Mikey Whipwreck. And yeah Brian Kendrick is the fuckin truth. Been a fan since he and Paul London were running around killing shit. They got something good going with Miz and Ziggler and I wouldn't be mad if Ziggler got a main title run. Dude looks like he's always ready to become a top guy.
DinosaurJones 11.17.16	His only main title run got cut short because of a concussion, which was super unfortunate. And it sucks that they've never let him get it back. He should get it at least once more.
rufinthefury 11.17.16	Orton is great in the Wyatts as long as he doesnt go "haha I fooled you all along!" I want Goldberg to win real bad. At the very least they better have an actual match and not one of Brock's usual boring ass squash matches
DinosaurJones 11.17.16	I don't see that Orton/Wyatts going any other way, though. Hey, it'll be hard to be WORSE than their WMXX match, right?
Storm In A Teacup 11.17.16	Idc who comes back after what they did to Sting no one had better come back and win anything. But for real tho, "Jericho for lone champion of the universe"!!!!
Titan 11.17.16	you guys like watching acting, jacked up men roll around with each other with close to no drawers on??
anat 11.17.16	i fucking love it mate
CalculatingInfinity 11.17.16	I know that this is for WWE discussion but I think all wrestling fans should watch this documentary about CZW that came out 2 days ago, which is a pretty big thing since it's on VICE and Deathmatch wrestling has never had a thing like this done in the 'internet era': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps0NJ2Sq8D4 Nearly the best documentary they could have done in 40 minutes, as someone who has had stories and moments from CZW/ECW/FMW/BJW/IMA ingrained into their mind since their early teens and responsible for some happy memories, I really enjoyed this. People's thoughts on this doc or this type of wrestling in general would be cool :] Jericho for lone champion of the universe [2]
rufinthefury 11.17.16	they totally left out all the non-hardcore dudes that have come out of CZW though
CalculatingInfinity 11.17.16	VICE specifically said that it'll only focus on TOD, since they could only fly in for one event. Plus out of all the events it makes the most sense to do TOD, doing all their non extreme stuff and a more nuanced view in general would take a good 2 hours so I'm fine with it.
calmrose 11.21.16	WHAT THE FUCK JUST HAPPENED?!?!?! lol holy shit, Brock Lesnar just got squashed like there's no tomorrow how in the world does WWE defend that?
DinosaurJones 11.21.16	AHAHAHAHAHAHA I dunno, but I loved it. I legitimately yelled WHAT THE FUCK out loud as the 3 count happened.
calmrose 11.21.16	Lesnar must have made BANK tonight to agree to that I'm still in shock
Gwyn. 11.21.16	hahaha did they really put some guy who might not even stick around for very long completely over a really expensive part timer? Pretty ballsy (and ridiculous) move from them I'm not gonna lie Oh well, I always liked Goldberg over Brock especially now that he only does like 2 moves, but still, the match was pretty boring
calmrose 11.21.16	it wasn't even a match lol, 2 spears and a jackhammer this just makes no sense given Lesnar's booking the past few years
DinosaurJones 11.21.16	It was like 3 minutes, how was it boring, lol I mean, I see your point, but still.
calmrose 11.21.16	unless they are doing match III at WM33
calmrose 11.21.16	at least we know Goldberg still has the best spear though the one Shane took from Reigns looks like it actually concussed him
Gwyn. 11.21.16	"It was like 3 minutes, how was it boring, lol" Because it WAS 2 MINUTES, like blink and you'll miss it, and all they really did was throw a move or two at each other and then boom, match over, nothing special. I was hoping (but not expecting, because the match sucking is pretty exactly what I expected) that it'd be a really even hard match, that feels like an actual fight kinda like some of Brock's vs Undertaker matches, but nah, just a squash match. Blah.
Spec 11.21.16	Guys I'm sorry but I LOVED the swerve.
Gwyn. 11.21.16	So much for all that dominance ey, getting destroyed by a near-50 year old dude who hasn't even fought in over 10 years. All the WWE need to do is have a segment were Brock gets covered in shit and the reputation assassination can be complete
calmrose 11.21.16	[2]
Storm In A Teacup 11.21.16	wait, what?
Storm In A Teacup 11.21.16	loved the shield reunion tonight
Storm In A Teacup 11.21.16	also hoping shane doesn't have brain damage, paralysis? maybe it was just great acting!?
Spec 11.21.16	his pupils said otherwise
Storm In A Teacup 11.21.16	I know... it was fairly traumatizing to watch
Storm In A Teacup 11.21.16	watch it slowed down to .25 speed and you see head on head collision and his head snap back in the air before it even gets slammed into the mat. shane is done :'(
Gwyn. 11.21.16	Shane'll be okay, he's survived way worse things (Though I dunno if he'll wrestle again), but the dude is 46, I think it's time someone starts going up to him more often saying "Shane, this is not a good idea" whenever he wants to try to be Mick Foley again I strongly admire his dedication and committed to give the fans something crazy and memorable but jesus christ man, he shouldn't have tried to pull that off even if he wasn't already nearing his 50's, even the greatest, most perfectionists wrestlers probably wouldn't have managed to pull that off
DinosaurJones 11.21.16	Yeah, he got blasted. The whole situation seemed off, you could tell with the pinning predicament that happened afterwards. The ref stopped the count, but he was eliminated anyways, it seemed like. Probably a safety call. He was probably supposed to get pinned there anyways, but I doubt he had any idea what was going on at that point. Overall though, I don't think it was that great of a show, sadly. Takeover was pretty good though! Of course.
birds 11.21.16	"nothing special" horseshit. now that I look at it,there's no other way the match could've gone. it was the ULTIMATE swerve. an act of pure dominance the rest of the show as well (minus the finish of the kallisto v Kendrick match because fuck off) was phenomenal. EVERYONE brought their a-game, I can't believe how many fantastic spots there were. shield members power bombing aj, the coast to coast spear (HOLY SHIT still really hope shane's ok tho), RKO through the table, and bRAY PUTTING AWAY FUCKING REIGNS, absolutely wonderful. cruserweights had some banger spots; especially that one shit off the apron. ic match ended in perfect detestable heel fashion, tag match was a tad slow, but other than that and the cw finish, best wwe ppv in years
birds 11.21.16	also takeover was balls and if nakamura doesn't come up to wwe this instant I'm gonna lose it
DinosaurJones 11.21.16	I was impressed with the Raw vs SD match, though some of the booking didn't sit right with me. Though the Shield reunion was cool, I wasn't a fan of the whole Styles/Ambrose subplot. I think they might be coming to the realization that even though Styles is a heel, people love him too much to boo him. I dunno if this was supposed to be a turn for Ambrose or not.
birds 11.21.16	hopefully absolutely 0 need for a face ambrose
DinosaurJones 11.21.16	I also have to say that I think the Shield reunion teases seem like desperation by the WWE to try and get Reigns some cheers. He was getting shit on HARD last night. Rollins and Ambrose did/are doing fine by themselves.
birds 11.21.16	eh, wouldn't say that rollins is slowly falling down the card and probably won't have much to do til the triple h feud, and ambrose's character rn is just boring
DinosaurJones 11.21.16	Weird-ass trivia: "Stan" (the infamous "Stan") that got superkicked in the hallway by HBK in his promo about DX not knowing what controversy is was played by the current Tye Dillinger
calmrose 11.21.16	haha holy shit that's awesome
calmrose 11.21.16	SEE?! I JUST KICKED STAN!
DinosaurJones 11.21.16	Possibly the best moment of the DX reunion.
anat 11.21.16	Meltzer said Shane is fine PPV was the nuts
Storm In A Teacup 11.22.16	When has meltzer met a lie he didn't like? Dude is trash
BallsToTheWall 11.22.16	NEW...DAY ROCKS!!!!
Storm In A Teacup 11.22.16	poor Jericho, no one deserves to lose their list
DinosaurJones 11.22.16	How you doin'?
anat 11.22.16	Meltzer is legit dude leave him be, gets a bad rap cos people misquote him and wrestlrumorz.net type sites plagiarise him
Storm In A Teacup 11.22.16	"leave him be" Cute "Meltzer is legit" Except he's not
anat 11.22.16	well I guess that's that
Spec 11.22.16	Meltzer is the least reliable "insider" in any sport. Also if you didn't like the ppv you don't like wrestling.
DinosaurJones 11.22.16	I liked the PPV, upon reflection. I just didn't like most of the results, since I greatly prefer SD to RAW.
anat 11.22.16	no-one's gonna have a 100% track record with fickle Vince at the helm but I guess Meltz is no falconarrow
Storm In A Teacup 11.23.16	It's more than just a bad track record. Dude spins shit and acts like people can't have opinions about what they personally do or don't like.
Maco097 11.23.16	The New Day makes me cringe, just like Enzo Amore or whatever his name is.
DinosaurJones 11.23.16	I like the New Day... And Enzo, lol.
anat 11.23.16	"Dude spins shit and acts like people can't have opinions about what they personally do or don't like." sounds like sputnikmusic.com
DinosaurJones 11.23.16	Aw, damn!
anat 11.23.16	what do y'all think about ellsworth? i'm enjoying his role but they're very much on the cusp of overdoing it
DinosaurJones 11.23.16	Yeah, I think they're gonna jump the shark with him, if they haven't done so already. He's got his contract, so now what's he fighting for? Can we believe he's a contender for any title besides the tag titles (with a credible partner)? Not particularly. Unless they go the Mikey Whipwreck route, which they're kind of doing, I don't know what else he's gonna be sticking around for. He can't keep main eventing though, or it's gonna get old super fast.
anat 11.23.16	i'm hoping styles absolutely decimates him in their title match and forces ambrose to get serious and give the TLC match a little more weight overall i'm way keener on SD's direction than RAW's
DinosaurJones 11.23.16	Raw has a few highlight guys, but as a whole, I definitely prefer SD as well. I think the TLC match should be pretty good regardless. I also hate "chair" matches. Like... that just sounds extremely lame.
Storm In A Teacup 11.23.16	AJ Styles is too big to be losing three in a row with James Ellsworth.
Storm In A Teacup 11.23.16	Also, wtf did the Undertaker go????
Storm In A Teacup 11.23.16	Also, cruiserweight division should have gone to smackdown. Makes sense in 100 ways and the cruiserweight division has sucked on raw so far
DinosaurJones 11.23.16	Team SD won. He had no reason to show back up (kayfabe)
Storm In A Teacup 11.23.16	but he said he was back and his legacy would no longer be defined by wrestlemania? him not appearing anymore just goes back to being a wrestlemania attraction these days.
DinosaurJones 11.23.16	Yeah, I have no idea where they're going with that. Maybe he's pissed that they had Goldberg squash Lesnar in a minute in a half, meanwhile 'Taker had his streak broken and barely beat Lesnar.
rufinthefury 11.23.16	that ladder match on Smackdown tho also Talking Smack is HANDS DOWN the best thing in the WWE right now. legitimately the best part of the Universe imo. Daniel Bryan in Talking Smack mode is just something to behold
Spec 11.23.16	Taker isn't appearing again until the next ppv I read.
Storm In A Teacup 11.23.16	Daniel bryan is great on talking smack agreed, but that promo last week is bologna if he's not appearing until the next ppv because then clearly it IS all about wrestlemania. "cos new metallica album is out omg life rules the hardest right about now" - Kill
anat 11.23.16	i dont take issue with taker being mania only but he should definitely only have one more, either against cena or balor, and then retire
Spec 11.23.16	He should work a dark match with Sting just to piss everybody off.
rufinthefury 11.23.16	The Phenom vs The Phenomenal One easy money
Storm In A Teacup 11.23.16	"either against cena or balor" cena is the worst possible outcome. balor would be more than forgiveable if they made his demon gimmick more believable and balor HAS to be a career heel/badass or it's a complete waste that would piss me off, but not as much as cena being named his opponent, and that doesn't include whether cena wins or not, and doesn't factor in it being taker's last match. cena beats taker in his last wrestlemania match? fuuuuuuck no that would not be cool either against cena or balor
JeetJeet 11.23.16	Feed Taker to Bray Wyatt and then banish him. Tired of this old ass muhfucka.
anat 11.23.16	cena/taker is taker's last money match though really, the result is irrelevant, sure it would have had a higher stake if the streak was still intact but it's still one of the last possible attitude era dream matches that could still be good i'd be happy with styles as his opponent i mean who else even is there, if taker is gonna be a SD lad?
Storm In A Teacup 11.23.16	taker is an artist first and money maker second. he'll want something that is appropriate for his legacy and it's appropriate tradition to put someone over when you retire.
Storm In A Teacup 11.23.16	Big Show is retiring too next year but he's already facing Shaquille O'Neal at WrestleMania, so he's out. AJ Styles vs Undertaker for the championship would be great. Especially if it was American Badass Undertaker. Also Wyatt would be good, or maybe Strowman if he kept getting better in the ring.
Storm In A Teacup 11.23.16	movies and tv sitcoms aren't real.
anat 11.23.16	wyatt would be good but creative can never make their mind up about how much they want to push him, he already got wasted against taker at wm31 and again at survivor series last year so another would be underwhelming now that WWE have shown that they can phase cena out though, i think a taker match would be a great way to solidify a proper hogan-nwo level heel turn my reservation with styles/taker is that it'd probably be for the WWE title and i don't want taker competing for the belt if he's only a blue moon performer
anat 11.23.16	don't make me call max landis
Storm In A Teacup 11.23.16	...what "cos new metallica album is out omg life rules the hardest right about now" - Kill
DinosaurJones 11.29.16	I am very over Flair/Banks. The hot potato with the title kind of sucks. Also, Zayn cut a pretty good Promo last night. I was thrown off by Foley's fake teeth coming out during it though, lol
calmrose 11.29.16	the hot potato with the Women's title is ridiculous Sasha Banks 3-time Women's Champion!!!! (but with each reign like a month long lol)
DinosaurJones 11.29.16	Like a month combined. Win it on RAW -> Lose to Charlotte at next PPV.
JeetJeet 11.29.16	Lmaoooo at Foly's false teeth flying out. There's a slo-mo video of it on YouTube. I'm fuckin DYING
calmrose 11.29.16	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XAaj31aoNQ HOLY SHIT he didn't hesitate for one second lol
DinosaurJones 11.29.16	The man is a professional. Plus it's probably happened to him multiple times before, lol.
Storm In A Teacup 11.29.16	Pretty sure he's wearing a wig too
sempiturtle 11.29.16	So I haven't watched wrestling since like 2013 and I just randomly checked it and saw that AJ fucking Styles and Kevin fucking Skaff are not only in WWE but also the champions? When did this get good again?
Storm In A Teacup 11.29.16	Also last night cemented Sasha and Charlotte's legacy. Bonafide hall of fame match. Perfect. But....I think it should STILL keep going
DinosaurJones 11.29.16	I think they need to cool it, personally. If they're making this into some sort of monumental rivalry that they are going to return to years down the line, they need to save some stipulations.
Storm In A Teacup 11.29.16	well yeah they already did that last night when they said this was their last match for the year. it'll pick back up next year. it's not old or stale. it's one of the top 5 feuds in the last 5 years.
DinosaurJones 11.29.16	Oh, did they say that? I must have missed that. I agree that it's not old or stale yet, but the women's division on RAW is all about those 2. Bayley needs some love ;_; Meanwhile, on SD, everyone seems credible.
Storm In A Teacup 11.29.16	tbh I'm just idly waiting for the 4 way title match at WrestleMania in a couple years between the 4 Horsewomen. it's awful to think how they excluded Bayley this last time.
Storm In A Teacup 11.29.16	"the women's division on RAW is all about those 2" I've been fine with it except for the fact Bayley is on Raw's roster. I blame the cruiserweight division for the women's division not being better on Raw. Move it to smackdown already jesus christ
DinosaurJones 11.29.16	That's pretty true, actually. Pretty much everyone else on the Woman's Division on RAW is pretty forgettable. I'm just glad they seem to have given up on Dana Brooke. So the Cruiserweights are still on RAW despite getting their own show?
Storm In A Teacup 11.29.16	I'm sorry but Dana Brooke is NOT good or talented. Idk what Triple H was thinking. Yeah of course the Cruiserweights are still on raw lmao
DinosaurJones 11.29.16	GIVE ME THE EMPRESS OF TOMORROW
DrGonzo1937 11.29.16	Haven't watched wrestling since the attitude era, but i like watching the whats culture wrestling on YouTube and the Goldberg return seems to genuinely be the best thing to happen to WWE since then. The PG era affectively ruined the company.
Storm In A Teacup 11.29.16	lmao nah the Goldberg return was 100% boring filler until the actual match. So it's not even in the top 100 best things in the pg era.
calmrose 11.29.16	watching highlights from last night and fucking Chris Jericho lol "He got the mask of Jericho, and he put it on maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnn"
DinosaurJones 11.29.16	Jericho's current run has been absolute gold.
JeetJeet 11.29.16	Jericho is a godsend.
Storm In A Teacup 11.29.16	my brother tried to say some sacrilegious shit about last night was Jericho being written off the show till next year
anat 11.30.16	the womens title hot potato scenario would be better if the commentary sold it properly, instead of bewilderment and acknowledgement of these two women being equals they give sasha this weird treatment where it's as if each title win is her very first
DinosaurJones 11.30.16	Yeah. It's not like she's won the title 3 times in the past 6 months...
DinosaurJones 12.01.16	No idea what they're doing with the cruiserweights confirmed.
anat 12.04.16	greatly looking forward to TLC tonight
Storm In A Teacup 12.04.16	Oh I forgot about TLC
Storm In A Teacup 12.04.16	Styles wins Ziggler wins Bliss wins Orton Wyatt wins Idk what else would be on the card but I guess that's not a good sign that I don't know. Must not be anything good other than title matches. PS I'm rooting for Rhyno and Slater
Storm In A Teacup 12.04.16	And if Ziggler seriosly loses tonight than he is permanently buried. They could push him to the moon in 6 months and no one will care anymore
anat 12.04.16	ziggler in a ladder match is a guaranteed good time and miz's stock is sky high atm so i think that's the match i'm looking forward to the most other matches are corbin/kalisto and nikki/carmella, not invested in either but i guess they could both surprise
bloc 12.04.16	"No idea what they're doing with the cruiserweights confirmed." I heard the audience turnout for 205 Live was really embarrassing, but tbh I don't blame the audience because there is nothing redeeming or unique about the division at all. I think there are some very talented talkers/wrestlers but they are protected waaaay too much. There are less high flying and risky maneuvers because WWE doesn't want them getting injured and stuff.
bloc 12.04.16	I agree that Ziggler needs to win. It's a dame shame he lost the IC so soon when he just won it recently. I remember the same thing was happening with Wyatt when he was losing every single match yet he was still in the upper card. Glad he's booked much stronger now although that alliance with Orton makes no sense lol
anat 12.04.16	i know the end result is gonna be a bray/orton match but man i want harper/wyatt so bad
bloc 12.04.16	Eh Harper is still a low-midcard in my eyes. He hardly ever gets his own spotlight even though the man has talent. I'm actually really starting to like Strowman now. Dude can actually talk and wrestle for a big dude.
Spec 12.04.16	I actually really like Harper. He's a great wrestler and his look is perfect.
anat 12.04.16	harper's just not been given that much to work with, but his singles run and in particular his ladder match against ziggler was incredible
Storm In A Teacup 12.04.16	I think they're saving Orton Wyatt for Wrestlemania and that Wyatt gets his first title in wwe tonight. It's a fucking embarrassment after 10 years and 5 as Wyatt that the character would just now get a title and it's only the tag titles held by Heath fuckin Slater. Bray Wyatt is a joke. Nowhere near the joke Cena is, but just as much reason as Cena has to not be taken seriously or have an upside money wise
JeetJeet 12.04.16	There's so much they could do with Bray and Harper alone, yet they fail to do anything cool with the two. These are the best characters on the roster. How can you fuck up the gold that is The Wyatt Family?
Storm In A Teacup 12.04.16	Theyve fucked it up for four years. It's just a gag at this point. Orton is washed up this year as well. RIP Legend Killer 2004-2014
Storm In A Teacup 12.04.16	Well except for Seth Rollins feud in early 2015. That was amazing. If Orton retired after beating Seth it would have been perfect
JeetJeet 12.04.16	The last cool thing I remember Orton doing was RKO'ing Paul Heyman. No doubt he's washed. Not Kane-level washed, but still washed.
SteveOffProbation 12.04.16	honestly the shit they're doing with orton and wyatt is mind bogglingly stupid
SteveOffProbation 12.04.16	and if they take the titles from slater n rhyno I'm dying
bloc 12.04.16	God I still can't believe the Goldberg/Lesnar match. Good to know they'll be meeting again at the Royal Rumble
calmrose 12.05.16	"and if they take the titles from slater n rhyno I'm dying" Orton/Wyatt are most likely winning the titles tonight Ambrose and Styles has potential to be a MOTY candidate if WWE just lets the two of them go at it without interference from fucking Ellsworth
Storm In A Teacup 12.05.16	did we ever figure out what happened with Ambrose/Ziggler at summerslam?
Storm In A Teacup 12.05.16	ambrose and loyal friends don't go together
Storm In A Teacup 12.05.16	maybe ziggler is being punished for his smart ass political remarks. one can only hope. anyway, ziggler is done.
calmrose 12.05.16	lol, that match though was incredible (even with the Ellsworth interference) glad AJ's tear didn't get any bigger as the match progressed
Storm In A Teacup 12.05.16	yeah but that ended the streak for that title not having interference in its' championship matches
calmrose 12.05.16	yeah, definitely would have preferred no interference but it was pretty obvious Ellsworth was going to be showing up also, where the fuck is Taker?
Spec 12.05.16	Who else noticed the monitor under the ring??? Defs thought someone was popping out of there.
DinosaurJones 12.05.16	I actually forgot it was on last night, I went to bed early anwyays since I'm feeling a little under the weather. I wasn't interested in much besides Styles/Ambrose and Miz/Ziggler... MAYBE Bliss/Lynch... How was it overall? Worth a watch?
rufinthefury 12.05.16	TLC was SO FUCKING GOOD! The first two matches, Tag Team and Carmella v NB, were pretty quick and whatever. But after that, oh my god. Miz and Ziggler damn near had match of the night again, honestly it still is my favorite I think. But then AJ and Dean tore the house down and the ending was perfect. Oh my god after you watch it make sure you watch talking smack. You have to. I called the ending and I lost my shit
BallsToTheWall 12.05.16	God damnit, I missed it.
DoubtGin 12.05.16	TLC was quite the fun show. Never expected the chairs match to be that good. Main event was excellent; not sure about the ending.
DinosaurJones 12.05.16	Cool, I'll check it out for sure then.
anat 12.05.16	if you'd have told me ellsworth was gonna be involved in the finish of TLC i'd have sighed heavy but i actually really like the justification they're going with edit to remove spoilers i guess
DinosaurJones 12.22.16	If Tye Dillinger doesn't come out at #10 in the rumble, someone needs to get fired.
Storm In A Teacup 12.22.16	watchwrestling.in
rufinthefury 12.22.16	so the RAW ppv sucked hard. bayley coming out on RAW was also really funny when she literally said "Sasha v Charlotte feud is over. Now it's time for Charlotte v Bayley" like forreall gonna spell it out for us lmao But no seriously, Road Block was TRASH
DinosaurJones 12.22.16	Raw as a whole really has been pretty bad. Sasha vs Charlotte was good, but they beat it to death, and slingshotting the title was terrible. JeriKO are great and all, but KO's credibility is getting hurt by it.
calmrose 12.22.16	JeriKO are great and all, but KO's credibility is getting hurt by it. [2] KO continues to look weak as fuck, his reign has been awful also, lol at Charlotte winning the title back AGAIN for her FOURTH title reign since debuting, I mean, the match and feud were awesome, but switching the title back and forth that many times is dumbfounding
Storm In A Teacup 12.22.16	why is it dumbfounding and bad? it's good at the least if not classic 5/5 stars. sasha is not buried or hurt by any of what happened
calmrose 12.22.16	I mean I guess it's not bad per se, but when the longest reign out of that entire feud lasted what, just over a month, that's just a little ridiculous, neither of them had a chance to gain any momentum as champion and none of the reigns have felt important
anat 12.22.16	sasha is kinda buried cos she can't ever successfully defend the title, and charlotte made this ridiculous babyface comeback at roadblock that just made sasha look stupid. all of charlotte's reigns feel superficial so she has the same aura as her dad
anat 12.22.16	lets remind ourselves that this belt came into existence in april and we already have a 4x and 3x champ, i know it's a change from all the long reigns we've been having but crikey
rufinthefury 12.22.16	Big E had that quip on RAW about Charlotte surpassing Ric Flair by the end of next year for most title rains and pretty accurate tbh
bloc 12.25.16	Haha yeah that was a nice jab. But damn Sasha really got bloodied up at the end of that PPV match. Obv it wasn't scripted but commentary should have been all over it. Would have made it even more impactful. Jericho and KO are barely even heels anymore. On RAW the crowd loves them and I admit those 2 know how to do a fuckin promo.
Storm In A Teacup 12.25.16	Excited for Undertaker Styles. Hopefully that feud starts next Smackdown. But tbh more than anything I want a Jericho vs Owens title match with Jericho as a face and for Jericho to finally win a belt as a face. His whole career is as a heel champion
rufinthefury 12.25.16	I don't think Jericho works as a face though
Storm In A Teacup 12.25.16	He's working as a face right now.
Storm In A Teacup 12.25.16	His character intentionally entertans the crowd and is cheered. His rivals are booed. Doesn't get more face than that.
Storm In A Teacup 12.25.16	Seth Rollins is starting to turn into a failure I have to add. All the charisma is sucked out of him and he's acting like a douchebag instead of a face. The charisma is gone.
rufinthefury 12.25.16	doesn't make a face. Stone Cold was cheered all the time but he was not a face, he was a tweener. Jericho is a tweener at best and a heel at almost every other time. and yeah Seth as a face has been a failure since the start because HE NEVER REPENTED
Minushuman24 12.25.16	Seth as a face has been one of the most disappointing things this year.
Storm In A Teacup 12.25.16	"and yeah Seth as a face has been a failure since the start because HE NEVER REPENTED" That just sounds dumb tho. He simply just hasn't been good. Sparklecrotch probably the biggest offense.
Storm In A Teacup 12.25.16	Plus he's still getteng help from heels like Roman Reigns
rufinthefury 12.25.16	idk if youre trolling or actually dont understand the difference between getting audience pops and being a face/heel. moral alignment has nothing to do with popularity. a face is a good guy, a heel is a bad guy. Roman is a face/tweener regardless of how hated he is
Storm In A Teacup 12.26.16	or there is a 3rd option where you don't understand
Storm In A Teacup 12.26.16	a face is who the audience wants to see victorious, a heel is who the audience wants to see lose. doesn't matter what is tried to be forced down throats and doesn't matter what's scripted. all that matters is what is.
Storm In A Teacup 12.26.16	anyway, roman reigns career is one of the biggest monetary and artistic failures in the history of professional wrestling. it blows my mind how dumb they made him and how horrible he executes almost anything. "i'm not a bad guy/good guy/ i'm just the guy" has to be the worst moment in 2016 pro wrestling that turned off so many viewers
rufinthefury 12.26.16	"or there is a 3rd option where you don't understand...a face is who the audience wants to see victorious, a heel is who the audience wants to see lose." That's literally what I said you are saying. It's wrong. A face is a good guy, a heel is a bad guy. That's all there is too it. Fan support does not play a role AT ALL.
Storm In A Teacup 12.26.16	Fan view, support, perception is the only thing that matters to the success of the individual worker and company. Which is why WWE is not super successful and in some cases a failure.
rufinthefury 12.26.16	That has no bearing on what the definitions of "face" and "heel" are.
rufinthefury 12.26.16	It doesn't matter that Roman Reigns is hated, his character is a face. It doesn't matter that Kevin Owens is loved, his character is a heel. This is simple. Basic.
Storm In A Teacup 12.26.16	Yeah it does. Chris Jericho is a major super hero right now.
Storm In A Teacup 12.26.16	That's what they're scripted as but that's not how it plays out. What you're saying is direct from a script and what I'm saying is how did it perform. You have to draw heat to be a heel or at least be rooted against and you have to be popular to be a successful face or at least be rooted for.
Storm In A Teacup 12.26.16	Roman only draws heat. Jericho only draws claps. Cheer it on man.
rufinthefury 12.26.16	"That's what they're scripted as but that's not how it plays out." i dont now how i can be more clear. THE CROWD DOES NOT MATTER. "You have to draw heat to be a heel" No, you have to draw heat to be a SUCCESSFUL heel. There is a big difference.
TedSchmosby 12.26.16	i'm with ruinthefury on this one, but i'm sure it's an argument that has plenty of people on both sides
Storm In A Teacup 12.26.16	I don't rely on corporations to tell me what my personal opinion is. If you want to be a corporate slave go for it. I guess you only enjoy the product based on if Michael Pole is telling you that you should? Learn the history of wrestling man.
Storm In A Teacup 12.26.16	Personally, Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins are both at their most unlikable rght now. Definitely rooting against them for at least the next year.
Storm In A Teacup 12.26.16	I'm looking forward to that stock drop coming soon.
bloc 12.26.16	Haha imo the "heel" or "face" discussion is not subjective. It is determined simply by looking at how the WWE is representing them. Rollins and Reigns are clearly faces in the eyes of the WWE and Owens and Jericho are clearly heels. The key is to analyze the characters from the WWE's perspective. Reigns gets booed because he's essentially another Cena who always gets back up and wins the match. Nobody likes that.
SteveOffProbation 12.26.16	he'll get smashed for ten minutes, get up, and pin a guy with a single superman punch and that is literally the worst thing in wwe. second being the fact that bailey is allowed to have a half-assed belly to belly as a finisher just cause it's a pun
bloc 12.26.16	Yeah the concept of a finisher in the WWE is becoming obsolete now. In the last few years alone there's been waaaaay too many kickouts from these so called "finishers". It's kinda nice in a way because it makes the match a bit more unpredictable but still.
SteveOffProbation 12.26.16	full on burning hammers when
rufinthefury 12.26.16	we had one in the CWC and it got kicked out of. made me so damn mad
Storm In A Teacup 12.26.16	he acted like he passed out from KO's headlock and then just got back up when Hogan would have struggled and sold before getting out. reigns is garbage from an objective viewpoint.
rufinthefury 12.26.16	Reigns is a great performer and wrestler, especially when wrestling smaller guys like AJ. Their Extreme Rules match is legitimately MOTY contender. I would like it more except for the ending where RR got hit by 2 finishers and a shit load of chairshots just to spear and win 123.
Storm In A Teacup 12.27.16	lmao a great performer and wrestler only if he's measured against himself I guess because it's not even a debate about if he's good compared to good wrestlers
SteveOffProbation 12.27.16	he's a good wrestler he just has a shit finisher what's up with everybody stuttering tonight
Storm In A Teacup 12.27.16	a great wrestler compared to who?
SteveOffProbation 12.27.16	every midcarder on both brands
SteveOffProbation 12.27.16	"we had one in the CWC and it got kicked out of. made me so damn mad" wasn't a full on BH tho, didn't land on head
Storm In A Teacup 12.27.16	yeah that's a joke to say every midcarder on both brands. I asked for one. 50% of the mid card is miles better than Reigns
rufinthefury 12.27.16	if Roman was booked as a heel you'd change your tune real fast, I guarantee it. you're trying too hard to be smarky when it just makes you look like a stupid mark.
Storm In A Teacup 12.27.16	you're assuming an awful lot there and anyone who even uses those words is cringe. i'm giving my personal opinion, you're just a dumbass sheep.
rufinthefury 12.27.16	So basically what I've learned from all this is that you don't know any wrestling terms or how they're used. I'm surprised you even know what a finishing move is at this point.
Storm In A Teacup 12.27.16	suck on a unicorn horn, sheep
Storm In A Teacup 12.27.16	and learn to accept not everyone thinks the same way and doesn't have the same opinions. you act like were supposed to all feel the same. do you like being a cuck?
rufinthefury 12.27.16	Do you like being wrong? You sure seem to.
Storm In A Teacup 12.27.16	because I don't enjoy the product the same as you that makes me wrong. get the fuck out of here dumbfuck.
Storm In A Teacup 12.27.16	Jericho was a straight up super hero for about 2 months when all of Raw was so fucking boring, but he was a shining star of comedy and fun entertainment that managed to make the whole show bearable as long as he had at least 4 segments. Man it is so fun. Definitely my favorite thing about 2016 wrestling other than the Broken Matt saga.
Storm In A Teacup 12.27.16	thankfully tonight was an overall good show. hopefully raw can continue it, but we'll have to see.
rufinthefury 12.27.16	"Jericho was a straight up super hero" doing bad guy stuff and cheating to win. entertaining as hell, over with the fans, still a heel. doing bad guy stuff = bad guy = heel. just because he's entertaining and fun does not make him a face. the only reason to watch RAW now is for the Neville stuff which is better on 205 Live anyway. I would never watch a RAW these days. I aint got time to watch 3 hours of bullshit.
rufinthefury 12.27.16	heard Steph had bants tonight tho about CM Punk which is always fun
bloc 12.27.16	Yeah Neville as a heel is nice
rufinthefury 12.27.16	he's such a good heel. it's even better than his tweener hyper-competitive NXT role. love angry Pac
Storm In A Teacup 12.27.16	fury you are a dumb fuck. I wasn't even debating with you or talking about faces/heels. i was talking about how i feel about the show and jericho. He has been a super hero TO ME. illiterate silly boy
Storm In A Teacup 12.27.16	can undertaker vs styles start tonight please
bloc 12.27.16	We WWE watchers on Sputnik are a rare breed, let's just get along!
Storm In A Teacup 12.27.16	But that wouldn't be very WWE themed of us
Storm In A Teacup 12.27.16	1. Smackdown 2. NXT 3. TNA 4. Lucha Underground 5. Raw
calmrose 12.27.16	can undertaker vs styles start tonight please [2]
anat 12.27.16	lucha underground is way overrated imo, first season was awesome but everything else has been kinda lame wildcard SD tonight is gonna be sick
rufinthefury 12.27.16	"I wasn't even debating with you or talking about faces/heels." hm. "a face is who the audience wants to see victorious, a heel is who the audience wants to see lose. doesn't matter what is tried to be forced down throats and doesn't matter what's scripted. all that matters is what is." Not talking about faces/heels, huh. Agreed on your rankings for the shows except LU is fucking a million times better than TNA. as great as Broken Matt Hardy is (he was dope af on WCPW too fyi) it's nowhere near as compelling or competently done as LU.
Storm In A Teacup 12.28.16	dude that is from a conversation we were having the other day. you were still reacting to my comments when I was moving on from that and talking about raw and Jericho. i'm super behind on LU and still catching up on the beginning of the season so I didn't want to assume it was better than tna when I'm still current on tna.
Storm In A Teacup 12.28.16	but it's easy to assume it's better than raw
Maco097 12.28.16	Great way to end Smackdown this year.
TedSchmosby 12.28.16	first smackdown i've watched since the summer, and wow, they really are putting out quality stuff. i was always a Raw kid growing up, but i suppose i'm a man now
rufinthefury 12.28.16	AMAZING Smackdown Live. Main event was 4.25/5 absolutely. The Kalisto match made me like big Banter and now I'm sold.
Storm In A Teacup 12.28.16	awesome smackdown. cena was just writing a storybook on talking smack that wasn't even canon. vomit quality stuff
rufinthefury 12.28.16	talking smack was lackluster this week. 205 Live was lit though. Jack Gallagher is god
anat 12.28.16	loved cena's promo, he's at his best when he's self aware, with the whole "i get a title match cause i'm john cena" approach. was shocked to see american alpha win the belts, it was a great match to boot, and that main event made stars out of everyone involved
SteveOffProbation 12.28.16	"1. Smackdown 2. NXT 3. TNA 4. Lucha Underground 5. Raw" MAAAAAAAAARRRRRRKKKKKK
Storm In A Teacup 12.28.16	Man you're so cool with your cool words. Faggot
DinosaurJones 12.28.16	I really, really don't want to see Cena with the belt. Basically ever again. I don't want him to have it going into WM, and I really, really, REALLY don't want him to WIN it at WM.
JeetJeet 12.28.16	I'm tired of Cena period. Fuck the guy. I'm not accepting any Cena title reign in 2017 unless he's doing something interesting with his character. That'll never happen tho so just keep the belt off of him.
DinosaurJones 12.28.16	He's a decent worker, but he just doesn't need the belt anymore. I think the company is finally past him. I hope they realize that.
anat 12.28.16	he'll tie the record with flair but won't surpass it imo, which i'm fine with if they do the story right and i'm like 70% confident that they will
JeetJeet 12.28.16	Just what we need. AJ's reign to be halted so a stale ass Cena can tie the record with Flair. Does anyone other than Cena give a shit about that? Nobody will care when it happens.
DinosaurJones 12.28.16	You know WWE is just gonna shit themselves when it happens though.
bloc 12.28.16	I don't mind Cena with the belt. Hell, as long as he's in big matches during PPVs I'll be happy because literally almost every match he's been in for the past couple of years has been amazing.
JeetJeet 12.28.16	He's so stagnant tho. Tons of guys can put on dope matches. Cenas character is lame. He's still being the same goody two shoes he was ages ago. Its so boring. SD felt fresh when he wasn't around giving his “New era goes through me" bullshit. Cena is just outdated and old news period.
Storm In A Teacup 12.28.16	Cena had not been bad for over 2 years but after what he said on talking smack and how he tried burying AJ styles, fuck this joke
DinosaurJones 12.28.16	Did he really say "I'm John Cena, so I get a title shot?"
bloc 12.28.16	But Cena has that thing where no matter who he works with, it results in an epic match. I do like AJ with the title (he's a godly heel) and I love that short lived tagline "BEAT UP JOHN CENA" so I hope that comes back.
DinosaurJones 12.28.16	BEAT UP JOHN CENA
bloc 12.28.16	God I loved that. Especially when he was with the Club.
DinosaurJones 12.28.16	I hope the Anderson and Gallows can build up some credibility now. Don't get me wrong, I love the New Day, but damn did Anderson and Gallows come out looking baaaaad after their feuds.
bloc 12.28.16	Agreed, totally buried. Yet the two of them together are gold. The skits with them as doctors was genius. I'm glad New Day lost the titles, but eh I dunno if I like who they went to.
DinosaurJones 12.28.16	Yeh, I'm not quite sure what they're doing. I thought they would push Enzo and Cass to the titles, but given Vince's erection over Cass, I can see them basically making that into more of a manager type situation than a tag team. I think they might turn New Day heel again, by taking out Cesaro, but the dynamic between Cesaro and Sheamus is still weird.
rufinthefury 12.28.16	I wouldn't mind Cena with the title at all. Let him tie Flair's record, but I sure as hell do not want him to surpass it. Cena has been putting in great work this whole year and his character is finally getting interesting with him shitting on the new era. I would thoroughly enjoy a slow descent into becoming a full blown heel. You can say they'll never do it, but Cena isn't the Face that runs the Place anymore. He's not the perpetually shoved-down-our-throat champion. WWE acknowledges this even. They might pull the trigger.
rufinthefury 12.28.16	"I'm glad New Day lost the titles, but eh I dunno if I like who they went to." Oh no way, Cesaro and Sheamus are hands down the best tag team on RAW. Love those boys. Enzo and Cass are too unprepared to hold those titles. Neither are fantastic wrestlers and Cass cannot talk for shit. Cesaro and Sheamus have it all on the other hand.
Storm In A Teacup 12.28.16	Enzo's stuff has been horrible for the last month but I did enjoy him getting his ass handed to him two weeks in a row. It's obvious it's just a build up to a singles push for Cass but idk if Cass and Enzo are good enough. Enzo can talk but he talks about some bullshit most of the time. Also, I love the Cesaro and Sheamus story. Just wish the club wasn't buried. They can do so much better than calling people nerds
DinosaurJones 12.28.16	Yeah, Enzo is charismatic for sure, but his work on the mic has no substance. It's good, but yeah, it's mostly bullshit. Compare that to someone like Owens, who is also charismatic, but all of his promos have a purpose. It makes a huge difference.
bloc 12.28.16	Yeah Owens has really stepped it up on the mic holy shit. Sometimes I think if he's going off script because he sounds so natural whether he's shitting on someone or saying that he's the best, etc. Forget that he can't win on his own, but he is the whole package.
bloc 12.28.16	I actually like the Enzo story with Rusev. I have no idea what's gonna come out of it though since Cass vs. Rusev is a more likely match up. The valet idea seems plausible.
Storm In A Teacup 12.28.16	well yeah cass going over rusev is what's coming out of it lol
bloc 12.29.16	Damn I'm loving the Strowman rampage. I'm liking the guy more and more.
rufinthefury 12.29.16	They keep putting Rusev in stupid feuds (remember the love triangle bullshit with Lana and Dolph?) and every time Rusev is the most entertaining part. Love that man. "Yeah, Enzo is charismatic for sure, but his work on the mic has no substance. " Uh... yeah, that's the point. John Cena even called him out for that and he admitted that's his bit. It's fine. He's over as fuck, he's funny, he's charismatic, and he doesn't NEED to have a point. He's just there to stir shit up.
DinosaurJones 12.29.16	I really, really hope they aren't building to Strowman vs Reigns, btw. Because if that's the case, they're just going to squander all the buildup they've done with Strowman. It'll be just like Cena vs Rusev from a few years back.
bloc 12.29.16	Got that love triangle was one of the cringiest feuds of the year. Rusev was the only saving grace.
DinosaurJones 12.29.16	Ru-Ru! Too bad Summer Rae disappeared after that. She's actually pretty talented, they just don't do shit with her. She's gone in spring cleaning, that's for sure.
bloc 12.29.16	Omg that fuckin nickname. Even worse than Zigglypuff... Agreed, Summer is extremely underutilized. She doesn't even need amazing wrestling ability with her acting skills. Speaking of, I am pretty curious to see this Emma transformation.
DinosaurJones 12.29.16	Yeah, I thought she was supposed to show up a few weeks ago? They have a friggin' 3 hour show where nothing happens every Monday night, and they still won't let her debut her new gimmick? Though I have to say, I haven't watched RAW in about 2 months or so, but I might watch on Monday for the Strowman/Zayn LMS match.
bloc 12.29.16	They keep delaying it for some reason. But I am not sure how she will fit in given that Sasha, Bailey, and Charlotte have the spotlight with no end in sight.
Storm In A Teacup 12.29.16	Enzo deserved to get that ass beat by trying to fuck a married person. Enzo heeling it up lol ;)
Storm In A Teacup 12.29.16	Literally everything he says tho is something a scumbag piece of shit in real life would say so idk how he's supposed to be a face. Is he supposed to be a face?
DinosaurJones 12.29.16	He is, yeah, that's been bothering me about this whole thing. Rusev is just standing up for his wife, but ohhhhhh shit, because he's foreign, he's a heel! Clearly, Lana should just fuck everyone, because that would mean an automatic face turn!
bloc 12.29.16	"because he's foreign, he's a heel" Ugh this is one of my least favourite things about WWE. If they ain't white or black then boom: heel. And Jinder teaming up with Rusev just solidifies that point. Jinder could have been a decent midcard face with his peace-love-no war-hippy gimmick he had when he first returned a few months ago.
rufinthefury 12.29.16	Mustafa Ali is a face right now so that's a good thing at least, but yeah, WWE has a looooong history of super racist foreign heel gimmicks that continues to this day.
Storm In A Teacup 12.29.16	Fuck that shit man
Storm In A Teacup 12.29.16	Rusev needs to go over Cass and they should send Cass to NXT for singles training and have Enzo follow him as a manager or have Enzo be the new heel version of heath Slater on raw
DinosaurJones 12.29.16	500.
rufinthefury 12.29.16	nice. what wrestling personalities do you guys watch? I like Wrestling Observer, WhatCluture (except for Ross and Simon those two can piss off), and Wrestling with Wregret.
SteveOffProbation 12.29.16	ross gets pretty stale but nothing wrong with simon any other "wrestling personalities" outside of whatculture are gross nerds so no, but what culture is a hunna
bloc 12.30.16	I only check news and jump to the comments section because I like to read the Internet's opinions and how pissed they are at WWE haha. My go-to site is Bleacher Report. I do watch WhatCulture vids sometimes though. You guys watch Botchamania?
Storm In A Teacup 12.30.16	bruce blitz talkin shop w/ gallows Anderson styles/chris Jericho botchamania and whatever what culture videos tyrone magnus reacts to
rufinthefury 12.30.16	Simon is the most annoying personality on WhatCulture hands down. He always, TALKS LIKE THIS! And guess what? You wouldn't believe how else he talks! And that's why, he likes, ROMAN REIGNS. Seriously the way he talks is fucking grating. Love Botchamania. I find Bruce amusing but that guy is a human salt machine. Nothing is ever good except for some reason he really like TNA from 2 years ago when it was utter shit.
CalculatingInfinity 12.30.16	Botchamania da best, anyone here watch OSW Review?
Storm In A Teacup 12.30.16	TNA two years ago was pretty good half the time. Bruce is a happy guy he just doesn't say something is good if it's not actually good in respect to the overall quality and past of wrestling
Storm In A Teacup 12.31.16	I still can't get over the fact that Jeff Hardy Twist of Fated someone into a volcano
DinosaurJones 01.03.17	Yeah, totally didn't watch RAW. Anyone see the LMS match? Was it good?
JeetJeet 01.03.17	Sami got his bitchass whooped so yeah it was good.
bloc 01.03.17	Gonna watch tonight. I also started watching Lucha Underground for the first time and tbh I love it? The over the top skits are fun as hell and the wrestling is spectacular.
JeetJeet 01.03.17	Lucha Underground s1 is fire and Pentagon Jr. is one of my favorite characters in wrestling right now.
Maco097 01.03.17	Fuck I missed Smackdown for playing Mass Effect 2. Anything good?
bloc 01.03.17	Seeing John Morrison again was like seeing an old friend. Dude looks awesome in LU.
Storm In A Teacup 01.04.17	yeah he's funny
Storm In A Teacup 01.04.17	ambrose is intercont champ now
Storm In A Teacup 01.04.17	and cena vomited in the ring again
Spec 01.04.17	Lucha Underground is dope but I could do with a little more ring psychology.
Storm In A Teacup 01.04.17	rvd chants?
DinosaurJones 01.04.17	Are they actually going to go through with a Cena heel turn?
Storm In A Teacup 01.04.17	No lol why would you still think that or did you not watch
DinosaurJones 01.04.17	I didn't watch, I guess it's just wishful thinking. Not that it'd really be better, per se, but at least it would be different.
JeetJeet 01.04.17	Dolph's turn was dope.
DinosaurJones 01.04.17	DOLPH ZIGGLER VS THE WORLD
Storm In A Teacup 01.04.17	The crowd had a huge Cena boner and Cena hammer/pandered it up when he realized it. Super burial pander Cena is in playoffs form
DinosaurJones 01.04.17	I'll be so pissed if he beats Styles for the title.
Storm In A Teacup 01.04.17	He unfortunately probably will considering how much dick sniffing he's doing this time around.
JeetJeet 01.04.17	AJ killed Cena in that promo and everyone knows it. It was a thing of beauty.
Storm In A Teacup 01.04.17	Not really. He just did the typical WWE boring promo that was scripted. Nothing special
Storm In A Teacup 01.04.17	Ziggler's headbutt was beautiful
DinosaurJones 01.04.17	I will say that I was NOT expecting a Ziggler heel turn.
Storm In A Teacup 01.04.17	Hopefully it's not a heel turn too late
DinosaurJones 01.04.17	I'm intrigued to see where they go with it. Ziggler should be a top player, maybe this will push him over the edge. He's really improved on the mic, so hopefully they don't stick him with a manager.
anat 01.04.17	by all accounts, omega vs. okada is a GOAT match. excited to watch.
calmrose 01.06.17	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvJq0nJ4Vjc ^HO...LY...SHIT did any of you watch the Omega vs. Okada match yet? hands down the best match I've ever seen, instant classic for sure
rufinthefury 01.06.17	6/5 match
calmrose 01.06.17	essentially every aspect of the match was perfect those two spots with the table were insane, like a double foot stomp running off the apron onto Okada with the table on top of him?!?! and props to Omega for his spot, looked like he was going to overshoot the table with the height he got, like damn lol
Storm In A Teacup 01.06.17	Are there rumors of ziggler getting a manager
bloc 01.06.17	Whoa I need to watch this tonight
Storm In A Teacup 01.06.17	Yeah ima watch the whole ppv
DinosaurJones 01.06.17	Nah, I just remember that was a thing that they did back in the day. First he was with Vickie, then with AJ. I don't think they should do that this time around, is all. I'll check out that match when I get home later fo' sho'
Storm In A Teacup 01.08.17	Ah so good to see TNA improve now that Dixie Carter is gone and they're doing live shows. The new episode and ppv this week overall were a 3.9/5
rufinthefury 01.08.17	The new logo is fucking horrible though.
Storm In A Teacup 01.08.17	I'm sure it will change eventually unless that has been their logo before being in wrestling, but I'll take that logo over Dixie Carter running shit. You know it, bro!
bloc 01.08.17	Damn gotta check TNA now too lol
DinosaurJones 01.09.17	Wait, so Dixie is finally gone? I really haven't been keeping up with TNA, because I thought they were pretty much dead in the water.
Storm In A Teacup 01.09.17	Dixie is 100℅ gone in all ways as owner and working there. And she's not welcome back
CalculatingInfinity 01.09.17	Good because she's fucking awful.
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rufinthefury 01.09.17	I watched the last three matches of WK11 last night. holy fuck what a show. Shibata v Goto was just a slug fest, Naito's match had some inconsistent selling which i hated but it was an alright match, and Omega and Okada earned that 6. The table psychology was absolutely amazing.
calmrose 01.10.17	surprised they put the U.S. title on Jericho but glad they did becuae Reigns was doing nothing with it, hope this doesn't mean Reigns is winning at the Rumble though also, with Taker entering the Rumble, do you guys think he wins, Cena wins against Styles, then it's Taker vs. Cena at WM for the title with Taker winning and retiring as champion?
anat 01.10.17	i think they might go with braun/taker and have braun get the elimination to set up the feud. as much as i think cena/taker is the money match, i don't think it needs the title
DinosaurJones 01.10.17	Jericho winning the US title is cool. The possibility of Reigns winning the Universal title is NOT cool. Because if they go with the eventual KO/Jericho feud, does that mean KO will drop down to the US title picture again?
rufinthefury 01.10.17	Jericho v KO at Mania for the US Title is obvious. I still want Taker v Styles at Mania but it could very well be Taker v Cena. I highly doubt they'd put Taker in the ring with Strowman; he's too green and could actually hurt the dead man. Cena and Styles are much safer and would draw so much more.
bloc 01.10.17	Jericho taking the title from Reigns can only mean Reigns is gonna take the title from Owens lol
DinosaurJones 01.10.17	They really shouldn't do Strowman vs. Taker... They're building to Strowman vs. Reigns, but I really hope that's not a WM program.
rufinthefury 01.10.17	Meltzer said that in the wake of Wrestlekingdom 11 they're going to try and have a good main event now as compared to something shit like, you know, roman v strowman. if they go through with that it'll be the second bad mania in a row.
DinosaurJones 01.10.17	So does that mean Styles is keeping the strap? Because if they want a good main event, Styles should be in it.
p4p 01.10.17	obviously. WWE thinks that by raiding other promotions they could still at the top without stepping up their game. now every wrestling fans and even the casual fans set their eyes on NJPW. What a game changer that final match was.
bloc 01.10.17	Holy shit Roman and Strowman rhyme. Styles is easily the "most improved" wrestler. Dude was amazing since the beginning but damn is he on fire now. Owens too. Forget the wrestling, I just like hearing both of them talk. And yeah, I have no shame in admitting that I'll have an eye out for NJPW. Never gave them a second thought before that PPV.
anat 01.10.17	I hope Joe debuts at the Rumble and enters a feud, he'd add a lot to a Mania card which atm is dominated by part timers. Him as Bryan's choice against Miz, or as Styles' challenger, I'd be interested either way. I definitely think Miz's feud against Bryan should be an important storyline heading into WM, too.
rufinthefury 01.10.17	I want Tye Dillinger to debut at 10 at the rumble and to go right after Joe, assuming he's debuted as well. They never feuded but their match on NXT was absolutely fantastic and I think they could do well together. Of course, you can't have newcomers feud against each other without a strap involved, so I think you have Joe take down Ambrose. Those two could have some awesome chemistry.
p4p 01.11.17	hopefully Anderson and Gallows gets a push for the tag team belt. i'm such a huge mark for those two.
Storm In A Teacup 01.11.17	I imagine the braun and taker thing is just gonna be a segment next week or the go home show to build up the rumble and that's it. whatever happens at the rumble and after won't be the two of them feuding
Storm In A Teacup 01.11.17	they'll probably do a 6 big men thing building up the rumble (Taker, Strowman, Goldberg, Lesnar, Corbin, and someone else) and then swerve with a Samoa Joe debut where he's the big man who wins and he announces he want to face AJ Styles for the championship because cena shouldn't win. because that would suck.
Storm In A Teacup 01.11.17	@p4p: you know talkin shop I hope ?
Storm In A Teacup 01.11.17	oh god I was just thinking of the history of the main events of all the wrestlemanias and Roman vs Strowman would be a very Vince like thing to do. oh god...
p4p 01.11.17	oh yeah they're hilarious. the one they did with Strowman on Talk is Jericho is just wacky af, it was awesome.
rufinthefury 01.11.17	Becky called Alexa a cunt on TS last night and i popped.
DinosaurJones 01.11.17	holy shit, really?? Hahaha, that's amazing.
bloc 01.11.17	TS is pretty fun to watch but whoa I'm definitely keeping my ears open for that lol
DinosaurJones 01.11.17	TS is amazing. It's done wonders for helping a lot of character building.
rufinthefury 01.11.17	it's in the very last exchange. see you next tuesday.
Storm In A Teacup 01.11.17	I watched TS and don't remember the cunt bomb being dropped. I was playing video games at the same time tho
rufinthefury 01.11.17	it was subtle. also overall depressing episode of TS lmao with Mojo being all serious n shit and same with Ziggler
TedSchmosby 01.11.17	i forgot that samoa joe vs aj styles in the wwe could be a thing in the future. that'd be great
p4p 01.11.17	alexa is one of the best heels rn. i'm marking out hard for her.
BallsToTheWall 01.11.17	I wish I could play you fellas in WWE 2K17.
p4p 01.11.17	that would be awesome balls. i beat u with my kenny omega.
TedSchmosby 01.11.17	i don't know about 2K17 but give me the right thumbstick controls of SvR07 and i will overcome any odds
Storm In A Teacup 01.11.17	I have 2K13
BallsToTheWall 01.12.17	Take a nap and let me grab some stairs and I will show you the meaning of cruel and unusual.
Maco097 01.12.17	Stopped giving a fuck about wwe games after 2007.
BallsToTheWall 01.12.17	RIP! BENOIT.
Storm In A Teacup 01.12.17	More like after 2004 then 2007
DinosaurJones 01.12.17	SDvsRAW '06 is the last wrestling game I really played the ever living hell out of. I've gotten a couple after that, I think '13 is the last one I got.
Storm In A Teacup 01.13.17	yeah 13 was free one month on Microsoft so I was down with that but it was only good for about 5-10 total hours of playing
DinosaurJones 01.13.17	I have no idea who's going to win the Rumble this year. I HOPE it's not Lesnar or Goldberg... or even Taker. I also hope that they don't pull a Reigns/Cena loses their title match earlier in the night and then enter the rumble and win.
JeetJeet 01.13.17	Who do you guys want to be in the final 4 of the rumble match?
DinosaurJones 01.13.17	Tye Dillinger, Sami Zayn, the Miz, and Mojo Rawley. Okay, not Mojo.
bloc 01.13.17	"I have no idea who's going to win the Rumble this year." That's the best part about it and I'm soooo glad it's still in the grey area. Was it last year when everyone knew Reigns was gonna win and he did?
DinosaurJones 01.13.17	I thought Reigns lost last year, because of all the backlash of him being champ. Didn't Triple H win last year? Or am I missing a year?
bloc 01.13.17	Ah it was 2015 that Reigns won, you're right
DinosaurJones 01.13.17	I just remember the year (13?) when it ended up being Reigns and Batista as the last two, and if Reigns had actually won that year, everyone would have been fine with it. That's when he was over organically and not shoved down everyone's throats.
bloc 01.13.17	Oh shit, I forgot Batista won the year before. God what a failure that was because I always liked him. But he's kicking ass in movies now so maybe it worked out for him at least.
DinosaurJones 01.13.17	Yeah, that was unfortunate. I've repeatedly read that he wanted to return as a heel, but they made him come back as a face, which felt terribly forced. And then they ended up turning him anyways, since the fans just were not biting it.
Storm In A Teacup 01.13.17	My WWE Top 5 Power Rankings from last week 1. Lashley 2. Matt Hardy 3. Jeff Hardy 4. EC3 5. Oney Lorcan
Storm In A Teacup 01.13.17	"Who do you guys want to be in the final 4 of the rumble match?" Braun Strowman Undertaker Goldberg Brock Lesnar and I want the 5th person before only 4 are left to be Chris Jericho. He has history with all four of the big guys in one significant way or another so he should back off from each of them in the four corners before being eliminated by whoever...maybe he jumps over the top rope after looking at who's left in the ring haha
Storm In A Teacup 01.13.17	just the possibility that Goldberg Undertaker and Lesnar could be the final 3 in the royal rumble makes it the first big time royal rumble in several years. way too many years.
Storm In A Teacup 01.13.17	this is a great opportunity for them to reboot the rumble into being big again after taking a break last year. hopefully they live up to expectations and don't get lazy next year and years to come
bloc 01.13.17	Storm you should be a writer for WWE damn
Storm In A Teacup 01.13.17	if I was a wwe writer the first thing i'd pitch is that Ember Moon would win the womens royal rumble and asuka would be extremely offended. and ember moon would feud with asuka and charlotte at the same time. asuka would beat moon at takeover Brooklyn before mania and charlotte would deliver a promo at mania about how she is wrestling royalty and it's offensive that she has to face a loser at wrestlemania. and then ember moon breaks charlottes ppv streak and wins the raw womens title.
Storm In A Teacup 01.13.17	and then asuka is extremely offended
Storm In A Teacup 01.13.17	it'd be a good time for charlotte to take a break after mania. maybe come back at summerslam/for summerslam so she doesn't become old and lose her ability to draw.
Storm In A Teacup 01.13.17	by the way guys if you don't follow TNA, Damien Sandow is now a transexual
Storm In A Teacup 01.14.17	also I if I was a Booker (pun not intended?) I would tell Cesaro to bring back the scissor kick
JeetJeet 01.14.17	I like ALL of those ideas. Especially Cesaro bringing back the scissor kick. Then Sheamus could accuse him of ripping off his brogue kick.
JeetJeet 01.14.17	wait SANDOW IS A WHAT???
bloc 01.14.17	Ok I need to see that lol
JeetJeet 01.14.17	Please tell me he's calling himself Transdow.
Storm In A Teacup 01.14.17	if ric flair was gay and Sgt. Pepper was his sidekick
Storm In A Teacup 01.14.17	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8ED7kOR6r4 go to 6:20 to start highlights of the Damien sandow segment
bloc 01.14.17	Eh I don't like it
Maco097 01.14.17	He's just a homo.
p4p 01.14.17	https://www.instagram.com/johncena/ possible hints for omega wwe contract? probz
Storm In A Teacup 01.14.17	it would be better to watch without all the clipping that didn't make any sense and took out half of whole sentences he would say. He played with the crowd well. I'm sure it will get better now that he's done it the one time and gotten anxiety if he had any out of the way.
calmrose 01.14.17	"https://www.instagram.com/johncena/ possible hints for omega wwe contract? probz" i think Cena's trolling, while it would be cool to see Omega in WWE, he's got too much of a good thing going on in NJPW at the moment, unless WWE gives him a monster paycheck
Storm In A Teacup 01.14.17	they're just trying to do what they've always done. take spotlights outside their company and use it for themselves. wwe is shitty as fuck sometimes. but maybe cena will die and omega comes in and takes his place. that'd be cool.
Storm In A Teacup 01.14.17	I have no idea who omega is and never seen him wrestle but I'm sure he's > Cena
calmrose 01.14.17	Kenny Omega is arguably the best wrestler right now, dude put on a classic match with Okada at Wrestle Kingdom 11 a week or two ago, you should watch it if you haven't
Storm In A Teacup 01.14.17	I was going to but during the hype people were saying how the match ended so it ruined it for me. Why the fuck would you hype something and say how it ended at the same time? I would have already watched it.
anat 01.14.17	UK tourny round 1 was sick, really impressed by so many people who i didn't know/care about previously
Storm In A Teacup 01.14.17	idk if I can handle all these shows and companies
anat 01.14.17	it's WWE if you hadn't heard about it, two night tournament to crown WWE UK Champion, well worth tuning in for the QFs, SFs and final tomorrow
Storm In A Teacup 01.14.17	lol
anat 01.14.17	alreet
Storm In A Teacup 01.14.17	I think I can only handle smackdown, tna, fast-forward through raw, and then their ppvs. I don't need to go further than that or it's just overload and can't be appreciated or enjoyed.
anat 01.14.17	only weekly show i watch is smackdown tbh, i'll look at raw clips on youtube, was just interested in the tourny cos it's my country and it delivered in spades
Storm In A Teacup 01.15.17	oh god damnit. I need to see kirbymania
Storm In A Teacup 01.15.17	does anyone else feel like they've turned seth rollins into the cuck they always wanted punk to be?
anat 01.15.17	they ballsed up his face turn completely and i just don't care about his character. needs his own finisher.
p4p 01.15.17	i thought he has 2 finishers, the curb stomp and pedigree cmiiw
anat 01.15.17	he hasn't hit the curb stomp since wm31 i'm pretty sure, because (i believe) it got outlawed for being easy for kids to emulate he has the pedigree and the phoenix splash, but he needs an impact finisher and he has plenty in his arsenal like god's last gift, or at a push he could use the buckle bomb
rufinthefury 01.15.17	curbstomp has been officially banned, yes, Rollins said it in an interview. i actually understand it too because it's one thing for kids to try and powerbomb another but a curbstomp is easy to do and easy to fucking hurt someone with. UK round 1 was great. Micheal Cole had such good chemistry with Nigel on commentary and he sounded like he was actually having fun selling in the in-ring product rather than spinning 200 plates while Vince McMahon screams in his ear to promote the next PPV and the twitter accounts and all that shit. Cole still isn't JR but he's a lot better than most fans give him credit. He's just stuck in a shitty position being a corporate suit most days. Also, I'm 100% sold on Pete. He's my fucking man. Wolfgang too!
JeetJeet 01.15.17	Naaaaah Cole kinda deserves all the shit he gets. Its more than him just being a company stooge. He's legit irritating.
Storm In A Teacup 01.15.17	"Micheal Cole had such good chemistry with..." ahahahahahaa, no "but he's a lot better than most fans give him credit." no, he is actually worse than the credit he gets. dude is bottom of the barrel, on the outside of the barrel. where my gum is stuck. and someone took a piss against it.
rufinthefury 01.15.17	You didn't even see the Tournie Storm the fuck would you know lmao. Probably didn't see Beast in the East either and you still haven seen WK11. You're barely a fan.
Storm In A Teacup 01.15.17	wow you are a fag, but yeah I did see yesterday, jackass. and one show could never redeem Michael cole which is the point you're trying to make. just makes you more of a jackass tho.
Storm In A Teacup 01.15.17	i'm a fan of pro wrestling. not a flaming wwe fan tho. and I already said why I haven't seen WK11 cuz it got spoiled.
Storm In A Teacup 01.15.17	you reference beast in the east like it was some special thing. anything can please you apparently. dumbed down wwe mark.
Storm In A Teacup 01.15.17	you probably get hard whenever john cena is on tv
Storm In A Teacup 01.15.17	and apparently you get hard for Michael Pole too
rufinthefury 01.15.17	Neville v Tommy End MOTN for sure Jeez storm you sure do get riled up. Typical mark.
Storm In A Teacup 01.15.17	i'm chilled out smoked out. using your words doesn't equal out to riled up. typical beta male thinking. you a beta biiiiitch
anat 01.15.17	that UKCT final was awesome
rufinthefury 01.15.17	Finals were dope as shit. Hella congrats to the winner and good to see the Prince again. Idk Storm maybe if you need to smoke to calm down after the realization that you're a mark that means you're pretty riled. No real fan gets tired of wrestling. Shit Storm, you don't even follow any indie promotions do you? Did you see BOLA? Any Chikara or PWG or RevPro? Not even the free WCPW stuff on YouTube? You sure seem like a WWE mark who only watches the E because you're not a real fan.
Storm In A Teacup 01.15.17	I arrive high lol
JeetJeet 01.16.17	This shit that Sandow is doing in TNA right now is hilarious. He sounds like he just walked out of the Bravo channel. I'm fuckin dying at all of it even tho its soooo stupid.
Storm In A Teacup 01.16.17	ya lol
rufinthefury 01.16.17	God he is so bad. Idk why people wanted to see him leave WWE to go to the indies. He ain't Cody Rhodes and even Rhodes is just ok out there rn. Sandow should have counted his money till the Brand split and been happy. If Slater can get over, so can Dow.
Storm In A Teacup 01.16.17	you just think that because all you do is suck wwe dick
Storm In A Teacup 01.16.17	you act like pro wrestling is a part of wwe but it's wwe is a part of pro wrestling. get it right.
anat 01.16.17	rip possible murderer jimmy snuka
JeetJeet 01.16.17	Need Rufin v. Storm to be in a steel cage match or else this feud is whack as fuck.
bloc 01.16.17	What's up with the murder charge details on Snuka? What did he do?
p4p 01.16.17	steel cage is overrated, No Rope Electrified Barbed Wire Exploding Ring Time Bomb Death Match is the way to go.
rufinthefury 01.16.17	I want a battle in a Japanese bath house Snuka'S murder charges have never been confirmed but its highly highly likely he did it. Shi feel bad for Tamina, but good riddance.
Storm In A Teacup 01.16.17	rufinthefury: you say good riddance to Jimmy Snuka when he dies? one of us might have a turn cuz good riddance (2)
Storm In A Teacup 01.16.17	I want fire in the match too though. Light a barbed wire bat on fire.
BallsToTheWall 01.16.17	Been watching some vintage Ricky Steamboat tonight. Good fucking times.
SteveOffProbation 01.16.17	the UK tournament tho :0 mustache fuckin mountain
Storm In A Teacup 01.16.17	main roster shows have been rough the last couple weeks. 3/5 overall at best. hopefully tonight improves but I doubt it. Jericho and owens are neutered! :'(
calmrose 01.16.17	Raw's been so boring lately
Storm In A Teacup 01.16.17	lately as in the last ten years?
calmrose 01.16.17	hahaha true, true
Storm In A Teacup 01.16.17	oh wow I did the math and it's more like 12-14 years
BallsToTheWall 01.16.17	Storm with the 666th comment in a wrestling thread. Fuck yeah.
Storm In A Teacup 01.16.17	I am magic, I am, more... ..with this power I will take on the evil empire run by, MEEK, MAHAN!
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	i'm so pumped for kurt angle
anat 01.17.17	i'm also pumped, but i wish it hadn't been announced, imagine the pop if he was cleared to enter the rumble as a surprise entrant. still gonna be awesome if he does enter, but...
Spec 01.17.17	Kurt Angle deserves it.
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	Kurt Angle deserves to go over John Cena at WrestleMania 33, but both shows have been revolving around catering to the future of Reigns and Cena. Only big heels being built to feed to them. Miz is the only legit heel on the roster and now Ziggler but I worry still for Ziggler's future. Unless we see a savage Ziggler dethrone Ambrose's Intercontinental title at mania.
DinosaurJones 01.17.17	I wish Rusev wasn't a joke. Dude is legit in the ring. I hate that they're trying to get Big Cass over so hard.
rufinthefury 01.17.17	Kurt stares down Brock at the RR, calling it now. Match at Mania. I would also be 100% cool with Kurt v Rusev. RAW last night was actually pretty good. KO finally looking strong again. The backstage segment with sami was fuckin hilarious too
guitarded_chuck 01.17.17	are you guys too young to remember the days of the hart foundation, sean michaels, triple h, stone cold steve austin wwf was actually dope in the 90s
rufinthefury 01.17.17	you mean when the booking was always atrocious and very few wrestlers were actually good in-ring? yeah, i member. great personalities and characters, boring matches. today is the best time to be a wrestling fan.
DinosaurJones 01.17.17	I dunno, I think the booking is still pretty atrocious. But the in-ring action is great, if given time to develop.
guitarded_chuck 01.17.17	'you mean when the booking was always atrocious and very few wrestlers were actually good in-ring? yeah, i member. great personalities and characters, boring matches. today is the best time to be a wrestling fan. " you make it sound like it is anything more than television drama and it peaked in the 90s
JeetJeet 01.17.17	Its cool that Kurt's in the H.O.F I guess? Meh. Now he has the honor of being in the same H.O.F as Trump, our country's current disgrace. Nice.
rufinthefury 01.17.17	1 bad apple doesnt spoil the bunch JJ. If that were the case the entire HoF would be permanently tainted by the addition of the Fabulous Moolah which was long before Trump was inducted.
JeetJeet 01.17.17	Looked up Fabulous Moolah's past and yeah she's definitely tainting the shit out of it lol. Also Hogan being in there after that whole fiasco he had diminished the prestige of the H.O.F too, but tbh it doesn't matter. The H.O.F just isn't prestigious to me period but that's how I feel.
DinosaurJones 01.17.17	I'm just wondering if they're gonna do another celebrity induction. They... they really shouldn't do those.
calmrose 01.17.17	"Kurt stares down Brock at the RR, calling it now. Match at Mania." that would be cool but we all know we're getting Brock vs Goldberg III at Mania and the rumors are it's scheduled to main event, which makes absolutely no sense if McMahon is trying to top the WK 11 main event
anat 01.17.17	sean michaels
guitarded_chuck 01.17.17	;] my girls dad spells it that way my bad
anat 01.17.17	he had some choice matches with rick flair and brett hart
guitarded_chuck 01.17.17	sometimes i put his theme on repeat when im lifting at the gym
DinosaurJones 01.17.17	Oh man, now I'm remember all the best typos I've seen... Triple HHH The Nudertaker Kurt Angel The Rick Stone Cold Steve Cold Samoa Moe
guitarded_chuck 01.17.17	HHHHHHHHH
AlexKzillion 01.17.17	When is Jeff Hardy and Edge coming back so I can hop back on the wwe bandwagon?
DinosaurJones 01.17.17	Edge is retired for good. Neck injury. Jeff Hardy might be coming back this year, it all depends on if they actually want to sign him or not. But Kurt Angle will be making an appearance soon, that's pretty cool.
anat 01.17.17	if you're a hardy and edge fan there are plenty of other reasons to tune into wwe - loads of guys with the wrestling style of hardy (cruiserweight division has its own show, sami zayn on raw, aj styles on smackdown) and the strong personality/character of edge (dean ambrose for face, the miz for heel)
AlexKzillion 01.17.17	Shit man when I used to watch I fucking loved Edge, havent watched one episode since his first retirement. Also I went through a phase where I thought TNA was waaay better when Flair and Angle and Hogan and Jeff Hardy were all part of that ultra heel team. Anybody still watch that show?
anat 01.17.17	tna has a multitude of problems and i can't see it ever overcoming them, but it definitely has its moments still
AlexKzillion 01.17.17	@anatelier Are there theme songs as cool as Hardy's/Edge's though?
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	angle vs lesnar would be awful because -angle represents lesnar's life lesson he learned of not listening to other people to make matches good. -he listened to angle and broke his kneck -he doesn't want to have good matches by risking himself again. -that's lesnar's perspective, not mine. -so yeah. it'd be awful and a watered down repeat of history. and the 80's had amazing matches and the 90's did too. WWE itself has lost over half of its popularity since the late 90s. there are a bunch of wwe fanboy kids desperate to defend a "current product", which is really lame, because they just talk propaganda and not the reality that pro wrestling outside of wwe is better these days.
BallsToTheWall 01.17.17	Braun stepping down from Lesnar was gay as hell.
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	as good as AJ Styles currently is, it's a lot better to just watch his career from the beginning because his wwe performance is like that of an old man when compared to his indie career. so many amazing epic moments. that dvd tna released is 10 hours of matches. so awesome.
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	raw was awful last night. had to stop watching. they must not care about the ratings after undertaker and michaels drew a
BallsToTheWall 01.17.17	Royal Rumble will be lit af tho.
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	probably! I can't wait to watch it for free!
calmrose 01.17.17	Royal Rumble will be lit af tho. [2] should be a pretty great ppv
DominionMM1 01.17.17	"you mean when the booking was always atrocious and very few wrestlers were actually good in-ring? yeah, i member. great personalities and characters, boring matches. today is the best time to be a wrestling fan." I don't know about that, man. I mean those razor-michaels ladder matches were great and really set a standard. and don't even get me started on those first few hell in a cell matches.
anat 01.17.17	pro wrestling as an industry is in a pretty sick place right now, and that includes wwe who seem to genuinely be making a good go of it. it's not always reflected in the weekly RAWs, but things are soooo much better than 5-10 years ago. triple h is performing masterfully in his corporate role.
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	indeed, dominion. it's common knowledge it was better back then. hell, it was so much better back then that without all of the media/tech we have today, it was mainstream. and now with all the media/tech we have today, it's far less popular, which isn't how it should be, but they make such a shitty product compared to what is possible. so they have to celebrate going into other countries now as a way to disguise the fact they aren't as big.
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	and yeah things are definitely better than 5-10 years ago. that was a dark time for wrestling.
DominionMM1 01.17.17	To me mid-1996 to mid-1998 was the pinnacle of pro wrestling
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	it's funny that cena says he wants to leave wrestling 100 times bigger than it was when he left it even though it is smaller now. doesn't make any sense in a real world but I guess he likes to be a kayfabe character in real life and his kayfabe character is someone trying to build the business up even though he fails...hmm...definite heel.
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	I would say 96-01 cuz I don't want to exclude angle and others
DinosaurJones 01.17.17	There are so many things wrong with the way they book things. For every 1 thing they get right, they get 5 wrong. It's infuriating.
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	that's why I don't give them ratings. I just watch illegal uploads. been boycotting since 2005
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	paul heyman had those gross words to say last week. so fucking disgusting
calmrose 01.17.17	There are so many things wrong with the way they book things. For every 1 thing they get right, they get 5 wrong. It's infuriating. [2] hard
anat 01.17.17	for the casual or lapsed fan who only watches RAW i can definitely see how it would seem to be still shit-tier but SD and its PPVs by and large ticks all the right boxes
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	unfortunately when it comes to one of those things they get right, one of those 5 things they get wrong is mixed into what they got right
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uBhtn5uMYQ
calmrose 01.17.17	SD has been doing well but their (WWE) ppvs tend to be hit or miss, or rather inconsistent
anat 01.17.17	i've enjoyed every ppv since the brand split except roadblock
DinosaurJones 01.17.17	The most frustrating thing to me is that heels rarely win clean. KO should be a dominant champion. How last nights RAW ended should be how he is constantly booked. Heels should be allowed to win cleanly far more than they do. Dirty wins don't build credibility. They get heat, sure, but for all the wrong reasons.
anat 01.17.17	storm that was a really bizarre way for the suits to nix the 3 hour qualms, i don't think people would be as bothered with a 3 hour show if they actually used all 3 properly, that vid makes my skin crawl
DominionMM1 01.17.17	"hell, it was so much better back then that without all of the media/tech we have today, it was mainstream. and now with all the media/tech we have today, it's far less popular, which isn't how it should be, but they make such a shitty product compared to what is possible." I think more media coverage has hurt wrestling in the sense that you simply don't get the surprises/shocks that you used to because everyone knows what's gonna happen before it happens. like when hall and nash came over to wcw and hogan turned heel it really shocked wrestling fans. if wwf tried that kind of angle today, everyone would see it coming a mile away.
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	Dominion, i agree and to add on, Plus no one protects the business these days. Tyler breeze debuted on the main roster and the same week they were airing the real person behind the character with him explaining how he developed his character. That's trashing what you're trying to do!!!!
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	Anatlier, yup. Trash
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	sounds like raw maybe had a good ending. too bad the rest of the show couldn't keep me interested to see it through.
DominionMM1 01.17.17	"no one protects the business these days. Tyler breeze debuted on the main roster and the same week they were airing the real person behind the character with him explaining how he developed his character. That's trashing what you're trying to do!!!!" agreed. gotta stay in kayfabe. a huge part of pro wrestling is the suspension of disbelief.
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	so yeah I guess rufury is probably 17 years at the oldest to explain his perspective.
rufinthefury 01.17.17	"There are so many things wrong with the way they book things. For every 1 thing they get right, they get 5 wrong. It's infuriating. " just like the 90s! Remember when Goldberg joined WWE and it was awful? Remember the WCW invasion which is one of the worst angles of all time? Remember vanilla midgets and cruiserwaits being squashed purely for big guys like Luger and Hogan? Remember all those shit "On a pole matches" and sexist, boring, TERRIBLE Women's matches? Remember Stone Cold CRYING like a bitch and saying he was scared to die, ruining his character? Take off your nostalgia goggles. In recent years we had the Pipe Bomb, the Shield and their implosion, the Yes movement, Taker v Lesnar, KO v Sami, the Brand split, the rise of the MIZ, Ambrose as champion, Styles v Reigns, and now we're getting Styles v Cena. And that's JUST main roster WWE. That doesn't even account for the amazing storylines of NXT, LU, NJPW, GLIMMER, Chikara, ICPW, and even TNA with the Broken shit. Just because it was popular then doesn't make it better. Fucking Limp Bizkit used to be popular, never made em good. Y'all are marks.
rufinthefury 01.17.17	Also, good god no, TNA with all the ex-WWE guys was one of the worst promotions of all time. Absolutely atrocious in every way. TNA had maybe 2 solid years before eating shit up until last year.
DominionMM1 01.17.17	"just like the 90s! Remember when Goldberg joined WWE and it was awful? Remember the WCW invasion which is one of the worst angles of all time? " didn't those things, along with the stone cold crying thing, happen in the 00's though?
Spec 01.17.17	Big announcement at the start of smackdown tonight.
londoncalling457 01.17.17	Any of you watch the U.K. Tournament? Bunch of really good matches.
AlexKzillion 01.17.17	Smackdown vs. Raw 2010 is one of my favorite games of all time, think I might order a new copy and relive the good ole days
JeetJeet 01.17.17	TNA's horribleness is vastly over exaggerated.
guitarded_chuck 01.17.17	bruh raw for the snes is the goat game, holy shit i played that game so much
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	yeah TNA has had one bad year in the last four years. Three of the last four years have been awesome!
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	oh yes the shield aka let's forget about any other faction in history
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	this dude is saying "we're getting reigns vs styles and cena vs styles" as if it's supposed to be a highlight. lmao
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	pipe bomb was a one segment thing that arguably hurt the business and was popular because it was talking about how things suck...not how things were good
anat 01.17.17	tna has been around too long to not be in a better position
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	the yes movement was support from fans for Daniel bryan as a wrestling character but you mention it as it was something wwe did and was entertaining itself. you are stuck to wwe's teets huh lol
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	tna doesn't tour tho so they couldn't generate revenue. Dixie carter is just fucking awful. so glad she's gone.
anat 01.17.17	i think what hurt them a lot was the inconsistent taping schedule, just made it hard for fans to keep up to date, they'd generate a buzz with spoilers and then not really keep any momentum. you have to think there's a reason that most of their biggest talents have gone elsewhere. i think they've only survived as long as they have because a lot of people latched onto it just cos it was the only televised alternative at the time
DominionMM1 01.17.17	I lost my patience with wwf after Vince bought wcw and just buried it out of spite and arrogance
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	Samoa Joe leaving didn't have to happen but they didn't view him as a main eventer anymore which was fucking duuuuuumb.
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	they stopped building bobby roode after he didn't raise ratings and they moved on to EC3 as their new star. I love EC3's work in 2015 it was soooo good.
JeetJeet 01.17.17	There was nothing left for Joe to do in TNA around the time he left. Roode and Aries leaving was a huge hit tho. EC3 is pretty damn dope too. Best character TNA has had in a while.
JeetJeet 01.17.17	Fuuuck. Double post
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	@spec I would assume it's not Mickie James since she's not being announced but is returning tonight?
anat 01.17.17	it's a shane o mac announcement, hope it's something cool like he's scored the #30 spot for SD and there'll be a match to decide who gets it, and not something lame like he's entering the rumble
JeetJeet 01.17.17	What if its Bryan announcing he's entering the rumble? :0 just kidding. Would be awesome though.
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	probably just matches for royal rumble spots
Spec 01.17.17	Shane is making some sort of announcement regarding smackdown. Sounds intriguing.
Storm In A Teacup 01.17.17	yeah probably just matches for the rumble
Storm In A Teacup 01.18.17	Becky has a better chance against a can opener than Alexa Bliss and Mickie James two on one.
DinosaurJones 01.18.17	Where's Naomi? Is she injured?
Storm In A Teacup 01.18.17	Making a movie probably
rufinthefury 01.18.17	does anyone really care about naomi tbh
Storm In A Teacup 01.18.17	Racist
rufinthefury 01.18.17	If i was racist would i own a box of delicious booty o's
Storm In A Teacup 01.18.17	Probably.
rufinthefury 01.18.17	only if i stole it from them like you steal all the PPVs because you're poor
Storm In A Teacup 01.19.17	or I would never pay for a bad product
Storm In A Teacup 01.20.17	Plus WWE is just embarrassing to admit to wqtching. I like getting pussy
Spec 01.20.17	I get it while I watch WWE.
Storm In A Teacup 01.21.17	that's scary
rufinthefury 01.22.17	yeah it's not hard to meet fine wrasllin lasses if youre socially adjusted
Storm In A Teacup 01.22.17	gross
BallsToTheWall 01.22.17	I have a box of Booty O's.
Storm In A Teacup 01.22.17	what are they like
BallsToTheWall 01.22.17	Haven't tried them yet. Not sure if I should keep it as a collectors item or cut out the mask on the box and eat the cereal.
Storm In A Teacup 01.22.17	lmao
Storm In A Teacup 01.22.17	no more tna after anthem bought them. just known as Impact Wrestling now. RIP TNA 2002-2017
SB129 01.22.17	Enzo and Big Cass FTW!
Storm In A Teacup 01.22.17	lol
rufinthefury 01.22.17	thank god TNA is dead. also eat the Booty-O's theyre fucking great
Storm In A Teacup 01.22.17	it really sucks that Baron Corbin already got buried by Cena
rufinthefury 01.22.17	BC isn't that good anyways. He really should be in NXT still. Rewatched the 2015 Rumble today. Always fun watching Roman get the shit booed out of both him and the rock.
anat 01.22.17	corbin is good and hasn't been buried
rufinthefury 01.22.17	I've yet to see an impressive BC match outside of his chairs match with Kalisto where the gimmick really carried them both.
Storm In A Teacup 01.23.17	He hit the John Cena attitude adjustment as a regular spot plus pin ceiling on an episode of smackdown after his biggest build up that was only a good build up for less than a month. That is fucking buried as fuck.
Storm In A Teacup 01.23.17	Baron Corbin is average but still it always sucks to see Cena just go over talent that was in the middle of being built up. It accomplishes nothing for either wrestler. No one is going to become a John Cena fan from this match if they weren't one already.
mifzal 01.23.17	Damn I miss the Lita vs Trish days, back then cena wore tight undies and nobody knew him
rufinthefury 01.23.17	Storm you are about as intelligent as an ant when it comes to wrestling terms. Zack Ryder was buried when he was crippled and got his girlfriend stolen. Booker T was buried when he came to WWE as a champion and was made to job out all the time. Alex Riley was buried when he got fucking fired. Losing to John Cena is not being buried. If BC lost to James Ellsworth 1 on 1 he'd be buried. Losing to the guy who beats everyone is not being buried at all. It's losing to one of the kayfabe greatest talents in the company, in other words, business as fucking usual. Storm, the more you post the more I realize how stunningly stupid you are for someone trying to be a smark
Storm In A Teacup 01.23.17	yeah cuz wwe has gained so many viewers during cenas time, no, oh wait, they've bled viewers for ten years. losing to cena is the same old sign of a company not getting what they do on tv makes them less popular.
p4p 01.23.17	well BC winning wouldn't be believable and good for the story progression either and he wasn't buried unlike Wade Barett and the Nexus.
Storm In A Teacup 01.23.17	He wasn't buried in a career defining way but his current build up just hit a wall unless he's winning the rumble
JeetJeet 01.23.17	Can we just send Corbin back to NXT? Dude kinda sucks. If he's supposed to be SD's monster heel then I'm not buying it.
DinosaurJones 01.23.17	Meh. I have to say, they've done a great job of building Strowman. I was definitely very neutral towards him at first. But now I'm kind of buying into the hype. Corbin, on the other hand...
Storm In A Teacup 01.23.17	How can you say Corbin beating Cena wouldn't be believable. That's insane. He's a 3 time Golden Gloves champion and was an offensive lineman for the Arizona Cardinals.
Storm In A Teacup 01.23.17	Yeah Corbin is done now.
DinosaurJones 01.23.17	Yeah, well CENA IS A 15 TIME WORLD CHAMP. YOUC AN'T SEE HIM
Storm In A Teacup 01.23.17	A 15 time champion of akward running, shitty punches, and sucking cock
DinosaurJones 01.23.17	Oh, I still love the One Night Stand match vs RVD... Cena throws shirt to crowd Crowd throws shirt back Cena tries again Crowd throws shirt back again YOU CAN'T WRESTLE YOU CAN'T WRESTLE *busts out a rare move* ...YOU STILL SUCK YOU STILL SUCK
rufinthefury 01.23.17	Storm just isn't good at kayfabe or shooting. I don't know what he's good at.
Storm In A Teacup 01.23.17	Anything out of Cena's normal moveset is obviously pandering and an attempt at reverse psychology on the audience. Pretty pathetic how they have relied on reverse psychology for so long and do it so often
Storm In A Teacup 01.23.17	I'd rather have it in his matches tho than when it happens on his promos. Cena is always at his worst when he's gobbling cocks on the mic. Only thing worse is when Michael Cole orgasms over something lame.
JeetJeet 01.23.17	@Storm IMO He carries his weight in matches. His only on-ring flaw is occasional awkwardness. His character is the worst part. Its so one-dimensional and boring. Cena wins/loses and comes back to be the hero that gets mostly mixed reactions and boos. Its the OLDEST STORY EVER. No character evolution whatsoever. Why would ANYONE choose that to be champ over an AJ Styles, or a Dean Ambrose, or even a Dolph Ziggler? Who gets excited for a guy who's been rocking jorts and the same stale ass character for over 5+ years? He's a CAW at this point.
DinosaurJones 01.23.17	CENA IS THE MOST POLARIZING FIGURE HERE IN WWE LOVE HIM OR HATE HIM, HE ALWAYS GETS A REACTION
rufinthefury 01.23.17	I thought that was Roman now
DinosaurJones 01.23.17	Nah, man. Roman's not a good guy. He's not a bad guy. He's just THE GUY. You're kind of right, but now they have one for each show! Cena for SD and Roman for RAW.
rufinthefury 01.23.17	Cena's pretty over right now though. the anti-Cena chants are basically the same as Kurt Angle's you suck chant. You could make an argument for Cena turning the crowds during his US Title Open Challenge which was probably the most entertaining thing in the whole WWE at the time. He only gets the real boos when he starts to get on his Lolcenawins streaks like when he beat KO in their feud. He's been jobbing out lately though so the crowd kinda doesnt care. I guarantee that changes at the Royal Rumble. Full blown hatred of Cena will be in effect when he faces Styles. There's no chance in hell that crowd will be split.
Storm In A Teacup 01.23.17	the funny part is when people think he's a marine lol
calmrose 01.24.17	that finish to the Rollins vs. Zayn match was so obvious
Storm In A Teacup 01.24.17	Not watching that boring show, but that would be a good feud if it was allowed to be. have they feuded before?
calmrose 01.24.17	Rollins and Zayn? I don't think so
rufinthefury 01.24.17	BIG Show looks awesome. Ain't 90s Giant but it ain't Fatshow either. Hope the gear he's on doesn't kill him.
JeetJeet 01.24.17	Big Show being on Raw is a great way to get someone not to watch. I'm glad I tuned in just in time to see Goldberg shit the bed in his promo. Also, what an awkward way to end Raw.
Storm In A Teacup 01.24.17	Time to watch some good ol wrestling on a Monday night. Some good ol Impact and WCPW
Storm In A Teacup 01.24.17	why was Goldberg bleeding?
rufinthefury 01.24.17	He head butt a door on his way out. It was fucking hilarious
anat 01.24.17	couldn't give less of a shit about lesnar, goldberg or taker really
DinosaurJones 01.24.17	I don't want any of them to win the Rumble. Shit, I don't know WHO I want to win the Rumble, actually. Sami Zayn. Out of so many of the names announced, I just feel neutral towards them. Let's be honest, Big Show isn't winning the Rumble. Goldberg or Lesnar SHOULDN'T, since I imagine their feud is continuing, and they really don't need a title for that. Taker... he needs to wrap it up, he shouldn't win anyways. Strowman should not win the Rumble, he's improved, but he is nowhere near WM Main Event worthy, let alone title worthy.
JeetJeet 01.24.17	Honestly the only people I want to see win the rumble probably have no business winning it in the first place. Just let Taker take the W so I can see Styles kill his bitchass at Mania.
DinosaurJones 01.24.17	Pretty much. Let's root for: Sami Zayn, Tye Dillinger, a returning Finn Balor, a surprise Kurt Angle, Jericho, Miz (it would be pretty cool, honestly), or Bray Wyatt Do any of them actually have a chance? Maybe Balor or Angle if they show up, and basically Jericho or Wyatt, both of which would be complete surprises.
anat 01.24.17	taker winning would be such a waste, it should be joe, balor, miz or ambrose
JeetJeet 01.24.17	Nah can't root for Zayn. His schtick bores me. Tye doesn't really doesn't impress me either from what I've seen. I thought I'd be rooting for Seth to win the rumble but Seth really hasn't done anything interesting after he got screwed by HHH. I'm cool with Balor coming in and winning because there's so much you can do with that. So many stories could branch off from Balor winning the rumble. Who'd he challenge? Owens or Styles? Will the Club get involved at WM? There's a lot to work with on that one.
DinosaurJones 01.24.17	Haha, yeah, realistically anyways, I wouldn't expect Zayn or Dillinger to win, if Dillinger even gets to show up. Balor would be cool, I'd be happy just to have him back, that injury timing was so terrible. I don't see them giving Ambrose that kind of rub, they seem to have cooled off on him. I think Joe is injured currently. I can't believe I'm saying it, but Miz winning would be interesting. He's really blossomed over the past year or so.
JeetJeet 01.24.17	I really can't see anyone from SD winning the rumble. Smackdown feels like its own contained world, much like NXT IMO. It'd be cool to see someone jump ship to SD after winning the belt at Mania tho. 2 champs, 1 show, and Styles has a pissing contest with the other champ while Raw is in panic mode.
rufinthefury 01.24.17	Winner of the Rumble will be Samoa Joe. You heard it here first.
DinosaurJones 01.24.17	I'd call it an outside chance... like sub 10%.
rufinthefury 01.24.17	He's up in the UK betting sites.
Storm In A Teacup 01.25.17	Personally, Samoa Joe would be my choice out of people who have not yet made a long-tenured name for themselves, in the WWE; but I believe the Vincent Kennedy M. Rumble Mania Award 2017 would go to the Undertaker. This year thankfully is less predictable than the last two years.
cagedbutterfly 01.25.17	Cm punk will return an win the rumble. I have a friend who works with the wwe and he told me all the results. Also kevin owens will retain and Baley with make a heel turn and win the championship
rufinthefury 01.25.17	"The Miz calls himself an A-List actor but that could just be an alternative fact..." I LOVE MAURO
JeetJeet 01.25.17	As much as I like Mauro I cringe hard at his references to pop culture. Still tho, Mauro and Graves are the GOATS right now.
Storm In A Teacup 01.25.17	that wasn't something to cringe at. that was a human being using their opportunity in media to show that they stand against something.
JeetJeet 01.25.17	Nah im talking about his references in general. They usually sound forced. Its weird cause outside of that I really dig the energy he brings to the show, but then he'll reference Kylie Jenner somehow in a match and I'll be like “nahhhh come on Mauro" lol.
Storm In A Teacup 01.25.17	oh ya agreed
p4p 01.25.17	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLlySQiEduw
Storm In A Teacup 01.25.17	I want a woman's elimination chamber since we don't get a woman's rumble
Storm In A Teacup 01.25.17	The Beckster Alexa Bliss Mickie James Natalya Caramel And I guess Nikki. Naomi just isn't that good in ring
Storm In A Teacup 01.25.17	Maybe the 6th person could be a can opener, but then there's no way becky wins back the title with all of her rivals in the ring.
DinosaurJones 01.25.17	Surprise Entrant Asuka. A MAN CAN WISH.
Storm In A Teacup 01.25.17	Okay yeah. Scratch Nikki and the can opener and put Asuka in instead.
rufinthefury 01.25.17	Asuka is cool but bump that where's Ember Moon on the main roster already
Storm In A Teacup 01.25.17	she is a ten year vet after all, but they need to move asuka up too. she's nearing her 40s
rufinthefury 01.25.17	Por que no los dos
Storm In A Teacup 01.25.17	No tengo ningun problema con ello.
rufinthefury 01.26.17	NXT was a snoozer except for watching Asuka and Nikki
Storm In A Teacup 01.26.17	That crowd must have been on drugs
rufinthefury 01.26.17	you know how crowds go too hard at the start or blow their load on one big match and are dead for the rest of the ticket? Yeah that's Full Sail on a large scale. They all blew their loads for months on end and now that crowd is permanently killed unless they see something absolutely bonkers amazing. they just dont care. doesnt help that NXT isnt doing stories anymore. We used to have great rivalries and storylines and it's become "The hottest free agent is now in NXT!" and then they challenge for the title and the story is built around that instead of watching people grow and develop from different feuds. Nakamura is the prime example of this.
Storm In A Teacup 01.26.17	sounds like TNA a couple years ago
DinosaurJones 01.26.17	It's never a snoozer when Asuka is on my screen.
Storm In A Teacup 01.26.17	she was so cute ten years ago. still is. just doesn't have that youthful cuteness.
DinosaurJones 01.26.17	I still think she's beautiful. I'm also partial to Asian women, being half-Chinese myself.
Storm In A Teacup 01.26.17	she's definitely beautiful. It just reminds me that she is also someone who has passed their prime before going to WWE.
Storm In A Teacup 01.26.17	fantasy feud: Eric Young and ODB vs Jamey Noble and Nidia. with Shawn Michaels as the referee, commentator, and GM
rufinthefury 01.26.17	The fuck DJ you're a halfie too
DinosaurJones 01.26.17	Yessir. Chinese Momma, Portuguese Papa.
Storm In A Teacup 01.27.17	I want an Asian girlfriend. Tbh though I prefer Asian and Latina girls over white girls and black girls.
calmrose 01.30.17	For fuck's sake WWE, can't let Owens win clean
Maco097 01.30.17	Can't complain about the WWE title match. It was great. 4/5.
rufinthefury 01.31.17	Cena v Styles MOTN for sure. I lost my fucking shit at the #30 entrant, oh my GOD was I mad as fuck. I'm not down with the winner either but it could be interesting at Mania if they do what I think they're going to do. And better than the alternative. But man, Rumble match was great for the first 2/3 then it took a fucking dive
calmrose 01.31.17	rumble match was boring for the most part and not big on Orton winning it, was definitely a surprise though
rufinthefury 01.31.17	JOE JOE JOE JOE
DinosaurJones 01.31.17	Meh PPV. The Universal Title match was garbage due to how strong they have to make Reigns look all the time. A Superman Punch with brass knucks would destroy someone, he should not have kicked out of that. That's on par with Cena's kicking out of a DDT on concrete. The WWE title match was good, I just really don't want Cena as champ again. The Rumble was very lackluster for all the buildup. #30 was some BULLSHIT, but at least he didn't win. I think that's the only way the bookers could get Orton cheered, because he eliminated Reigns.
Storm In A Teacup 01.31.17	Rumble was awful. Better go Wyatt vs Orton and leave Cena out
rufinthefury 01.31.17	Cena 100% drops at EC to Wyatt if they're smart. And why the fuck aren't we talking about JOE? Boy smashed the shit out of Rollins oh my god I popped so hard
calmrose 01.31.17	Cena dropping the title two weeks after winning it would be dumb, but it seems pretty obvious that WWE is building towards Wyatt vs Orton at Mania for the belt, unless they do some wonky finish at EC to set up a triple threat match, I just can't see WWE going with Cena vs Orton for the millionth but it really only makes sense for Cena winning at the Rumble if he's champion going into Mania Joe on the main roster finally, going to be dope
DinosaurJones 01.31.17	Joe on the main roster = awesome. Them pulling the trigger on Dillinger and having him come out as #10, and then do nothing of note and quietly get eliminated = shitty.
anat 01.31.17	royal rumble was a sick ppv bar the final ~30 mins. taker needs to retire. goldberg and lesnar need to sling their hooks. seems like styles and ambrose have been shafted for mania season despite being the two hardest workers in the company of 2016.
rufinthefury 01.31.17	IT makes perfect sense for him to drop it at EC. It's protecting AJ. If John loses it in an EC match to Wyatt without having ever actually fought the man that wins it, say AJ eliminates him early before Wyatt is even out of his pod, and everybody looks strong. AJ lost it to Cena but it's better than dropping it to Wyatt in kayfabe. John can take the loss to a much lower ranked wrestler and still be fine; AJ cAnt. He doesn't have that pedigree yet
Maco097 01.31.17	The Royal Rumble this year was superior to the last 3 ones which were complete crap. Even though it wasn't that great.
rufinthefury 01.31.17	A million times better than the past few years, yep. And it seriously wasn't bad until the last 1/3
anat 01.31.17	the 2016 rumble was pretty good actually but i think this one was better even if it had a shittier ending
rufinthefury 02.01.17	All I remember from 2016 is Deano being 2nd to HHH and I don't wanna see that. At least this year swerved me with a weird ass ending, HHH going over was hella predictable
JeetJeet 02.01.17	The Rumble was awesome. Best one in ages. I cannot stress this enough tho Tye Dillinger looks doofy as shit. My dude came out looking like taffy and Braun handled him and Sami's bitchass like lightweight.
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	I just can't stand how hard they're pushing Reigns, despite how much resistance there is to it. First off, they made him look superhuman during the title match, and then to have him come out as #30 in the Rumble... and barely sell the fact that he was in a match earlier. And also have him eliminate Taker! Was anyone happy about that? I doubt it. That's as much a waste of a spot as Ellsworth was.
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	Also (double post, but it's my list, so fuck it), did anyone see the pics posted of the little cart that they were driving the big guys down the ramp on? It's great.
JeetJeet 02.01.17	Not cool with Cena winning the title nor am I cool with the idea of Cena/Orton at WM either. I'm hoping it doesn't go that route but WM this year seems to be just as hard to pin down as the rumble.
JeetJeet 02.01.17	I hate how protected Reigns is too, but I liked him eliminating Taker.
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	My guess is that they have Wyatt winning at EC to set up Wyatt vs Orton at WM. Which is kind of cool, but if they have Wyatt win his first title for a month just to lose it at WM, that's kind of weak.
JeetJeet 02.01.17	Exactly. Wyatt deserves more than a transitional champ reign. I wish they just kept the belt on AJ, had Orton go full face and fuck Bray outta the rumble, and then have Orton/Styles/Wyatt at mania. Cena shouldn't be champ period because nothing good comes out of him being a 2 week champ, nor does anything good come out of him facing Orton at WM.
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	They have Cena tie Flair's 16 reigns, merely to have him as a transitional champ. Granted, Cena and Styles have great matches, but it really wasn't necessary for Cena to get the strap. The EC is a good way to have someone lose the belt without making them look weak, so I have no idea why they gave Cena the title again.
JeetJeet 02.01.17	Cena tying Flair's record is the equivalent of that King of the Hill episode where Bill's football record gets beaten by the younger player.
rufinthefury 02.01.17	JJ you're going too deep. Just have fucking Wyatt win it at Rumble. He was in the final three. Orton doesnt need that shit and frankly I quite enjoy Randy in the Wyatt's and the Harper face turn because dammit Harper is underrated as hell
JeetJeet 02.01.17	Harper turning face makes no sense at all. Why dismantle the Wyatt family? What in the blue fuck is Harper gonna do on his own? Lmaooo they tried this with Rowan and it flopped. Harper is awesome, but the WWE will drop the ball HARD on him if he goes solo.
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	Harper comes out clean-shaven, with a buzzcut and wearing a singlet, pushed as a whitemeat babyface.
JeetJeet 02.01.17	Lmao and then they pair him with Apollo Crews and throw him into tag division obscurity
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	Speaking of Apollo Crews, did you hear that reaction when he came out at the Rumble? If you say yes, you're fucking lying. Because there wasn't one. ZERO CHARACTER.
JeetJeet 02.01.17	I knew Apollo was doomed the moment they signed him lol. The only way they can save him is by lobbing him to Raw and pairing him with The New Day. I seriously can't think of any other way to get people to care about him lol
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	They pushed him to the main roster way too fast. He spent barely any time in NXT. He's a great athlete, clearly, but he has absolutely 0 character. He needed some time in developmental to test a gimmick, or at least work on his charisma.
SteveOffProbation 02.01.17	"Harper turning face makes no sense at all. Why dismantle the Wyatt family? What in the blue fuck is Harper gonna do on his own? Lmaooo they tried this with Rowan and it flopped. Harper is awesome, but the WWE will drop the ball HARD on him if he goes solo." honestly if you can't see the level that harper is on compared to reigns to the point where you think his face turn will go like reigns' did, you're kinda clueless
SteveOffProbation 02.01.17	also yea send crews into the stratosphere
JeetJeet 02.01.17	What makes you think they'll do a Harper face turn the right way when they can't even do a Rollins face turn the right way? And you bringing up Reigns was dumb. Why did you bring up Reigns?
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	I actually thought someone young would win their first rumble. Silly me.
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	Wa ha ha. How naïve, Storm.
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	some people in this thread seeing skin color before talent or skill.
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	the gall to show "news headlines" that this rumble was one of the greatest ppvs ever is a sign that this company will never get better. i'm on the verge of abandoning the E forever since there are already good wrestling products out there
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	I wouldn't blame you. Like I said, I only catch the PPVs half the time, the last time I watched a RAW or SD in full was a couple of months ago, but it's been part of my life for so long, haha. The bad outweighs the good though.
Black Ink 02.01.17	Rollins re-injured his knee. Wife is furious over the amount of work will have to be redone because of it.
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	smackdown got on it's knees and sucked the whole ppv's dick as one of the all time great ppvs and then they spent the rest of the time bitching about how smackdown only had one match on the whole card and how only 11/30 rumble entrants were from smackdown.
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	Mmm, I was still trying to figure out if that was a work or not, but it seems legit.
anat 02.01.17	ì can't see me stop at least keeping tabs on WWE but i can't abandon them yet. 2016 was one of the company's greatest years in terms of match quality and crazy shit happening and even if you don't think so, down the line it'll be remembered as a standout year IMO. the main thing holding them back atm is the reliance on the old guard especially at this time of year. the fans are so ready to have a horde of young megastars. it's really time that someone along the lines of cesaro, zayn, kofi, big e, even strowman or corbin, won the rumble. the next year or so you'll have taker dropping off (he looked TERRIBLE at the rumble and for his own sake should make this mania his last), cena is getting less and less active, brock is there on a string and goldberg can't wrestle more than 3 minutes. what are they gonna do when they're all gone? i will say, in complete naive hope, that it seems as though they may be gearing towards a reigns heel turn. (lol)
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	Well, the Cena/Styles match delivered, but I have to say that's pretty normal for them. Charlotte/Bayley was pretty lackluster, and at this point, I know Charlotte is not going to lose on PPV until WM, if they pull the trigger there. The Universal title match was okay, and I love Owens and Jericho, but I can't help but be disgusted by it because of how superhuman they have to make Reigns look. I actually vocally yelled at my TV when Reigns kicked out of the superman punch with knucks, that is just not believable. I actually enjoy the Cruiserweights, Heel Neville is one of the best things WWE has going right now. The rumble itself... was actually pretty shitty.
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	at this point undertaker is just robbing other talent that is younger and actually in shape to be in the ring and are actually believable when it comes to being in a fight.
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	like how lesnar robbed mark hunt
anat 02.01.17	the rumble match itself was really good, it was only when the ring started filling up in the final third as obvious fodder for lesnar/taker/gberg that it started getting shitty.
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	tbh, fuck goldber, lesnar, and undertaker. bunch of washed up fuckers I don't give a fuck about
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	"when the ring started filling up in the final third as obvious fodder for lesnar/taker/gberg that it" that didn't even happen dude. they got a couple eliminations each and then there were several people left after they all were gone.
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	I kind of can't wait until some of these guys retire, yeah... Mark Henry in the rumble was a waste, where the hell has he been for the past few months. Big Show is kind of understandable, and to be fair to the dude, he looks amazing, he really has gotten himself into great shape. I hope that he rides off into the sunset soon though. I want Goldberg and Lesnar gone. Having them in the rumble was a waste. I want Taker to retire as well, for his health, and the fact that at this point, he's tarnishing his own legacy. Oddly enough, I missed Kane this Rumble. He's such a mainstay that it felt weird without him.
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	your moms pussy is a mainstay around this dick
anat 02.01.17	between them they eliminated 10 guys, 7 if you exclude themselves, and excluding enzo they were all decent names and they were gone with little fanfare (ambrose, ziggler, miz, zayn, corbin, rusev)
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	of all the old big men fuckers the only one I still like is big show and that's because I've been waiting one year for Big Show vs Shaq at mania.
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	Was that meant to be on an alt, Storm?
anat 02.01.17	i like the idea of show/shaq and show is in pretty great shape right now but idk doesn't it seem like 5 or 6 years too late
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	@dino: uh no... ?
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	I meant the your moms pussy comment, seemed a bit out of place, but meh.
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	"i like the idea of show/shaq and show is in pretty great shape right now but idk doesn't it seem like 5 or 6 years too late" nah, shaq was in the league until mid 2011 so 2012 mania was the earliest but he would have still been too buys receiving honors at ceremonies to also train. so 2013 mania is the first time he could have been legitimately able to put time aside to do it. so, 4 years where there was a window, but they started the feud over a year ago. so it seems about right to me.
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	Big Show just gets the absolute shaft around WM time. vs. Akebono Vs. Mayweather (good god, that was shitty) vs. Shaq. I highly doubt it will be a good match...
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	I know what you meant dino. lol. I wouldn't use an alt just to make a throwaway comment. that's kinda silly
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	big show picked all of those I thought lmao. I know that at least he picked shaq and initiated the deal.
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	Man, if that's the case, he is a company man through and through.
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	the best we can hope for now that rollins is gone is for HHH vs Samoa Joe at WrestleMania.
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	They could spin it that way pretty easy. Joe took out Rollins, expects a reward, HHH doesn't deliver, Joe goes after HHH.
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	WrestleMania 33 Randy Orton vs ? (World Title) Brock Lesnar vs Goldberg (WrestleMania 20 rematch) Big Show vs Shaquille O'Neal Charlotte vs ? (Raw Womens Championship) am I forgetting anything? I heard that Cena and Nikki Bella will face Miz and Maryse at wrestlemania this year.
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	Taker vs someone.
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	I was thinking HHH would cut another Creator Destroyer promo and how he controls the Destroyer and then Samoa Joe will interrupt him and say "no one controls me" and it would roll from there
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	ah yes lol taker of course
anat 02.01.17	maybe joe and hhh take out foley and zayn comes to his aid and we get joe/zayn lesnar/gberg will, unfortunately, be for the universal title, because fuck the full-timers
calmrose 02.01.17	I read Taker was hurting real bad after the Rumble, so his WM match may be in jeopardy but if he can go, it's probably against Reigns
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	the good news is that Shaq is taking the match seriously. he started working out specifically for it the beginning of January.
calmrose 02.01.17	Shaq vs Show will be awful lol
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	See, news like that is what makes me worry for Taker. He wasn't even in the ring for 10 minutes. He should just hang it up. I wonder how much Shaq has been training... Lesnar/Goldberg better fucking well NOT be for the strap. "Best for business" my ass.
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	does vince not remember how Goldberg vs lesnar at wrestlemania 20 worked out? it was awful!!!! the payoff was no payoff kind of like how it seems to be this time around. and on top of that you would seriously ruin the wwe heavy title? ugh
anat 02.01.17	honestly as much as it disgusts me to say, i would mark the fuck out if goldberg squashed lesnar in a minute again if only so it didn't take up 6x the time it has any right to
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	I illegally stream raw because I'm boycotting giving wwe any ratings, but I will boycott illegally streaming if Goldberg wins the title. I might be done with this bullshit before mania even starts.
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	We haven't seen Goldberg do anything besides punch, kick, spear, and jackhammer. We haven't seen Lesnar do anything besides, punch, kick, german suplex, F-5, and Kimura lock (actually, when is the last time we saw that?) Neither of them better touch that goddamn belt.
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	kevin owens with 0 clean title defenses is a million times better than that route
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	poor kevin steen though
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	WWE is just so shitty at booking heels. The only one they're getting right ATM is Neville. It's okay if heels win clean. In fact, that makes it BETTER because when they get beat, it makes it more legitimate! WHOA, CRAZY.
calmrose 02.01.17	^lol right?! Owens should be such a dominate heel right now, his title reign has been absolute trash, dude looks weaker each passing week
rufinthefury 02.01.17	You know AJ has a pretty good record right
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	True.
SteveOffProbation 02.01.17	neville is sick but if you tell me charlotte isn't the best heel in wwe right now, you're mental.
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	AJ is way too well liked and popular and a draw for people who want to see him win and hasn't even done anything heel-ish during his run to be considered a real heel.
SteveOffProbation 02.01.17	yea he's nothing more than a cheeky face tbh
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	yeah he's definitely been a face to me his whole WWE run. objectively, and non-objectively
anat 02.01.17	i think they might be prepping AJ for a face turn anyway
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	uh,,, the consensus is he already is a face. wouldn't be much of a face turn lol
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	Owens & Jericho are basically faces too... the guys get cheered more than most of the other "faces" *coughREIGNScough* on RAW.
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	yeah but they do still commit heel actions so they're heels
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	True. They're the most over guys on RAW though.
anat 02.01.17	wwe will always be the land where faces do shitty things to innocent people and heels act with thoughtful morality
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	"wwe will always be the land where faces do shitty things to innocent people and heels act with thoughtful morality" no wonder Vince and Linda are Trump supporters and working for Trump's Presidency
DinosaurJones 02.01.17	*Rusev defends his wife's honor* WWE: YOU HEAR THAT ACCENT? HE'S A HEEL, DAMMIT!
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	uggh. no wonder rufinthefury is such a horrible person. wwe tv raised him.
SteveOffProbation 02.01.17	"no wonder Vince and Linda are Trump supporters and working for Trump's Presidency" lol
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.17	Becky Lynch is so hot ancient Egypt would have made her their Queen.
Storm In A Teacup 02.02.17	here's to hoping Triple H will live vicariously through Bobby Roode
DinosaurJones 02.02.17	Becky Lynch is insanely attractive.
DinosaurJones 02.02.17	Currently listening to Stone Cold review the Rumble. Thank God he agrees that having Reigns kick out of the brass knucks shot was pretty bs.
JeetJeet 02.02.17	I could watch Alexa and Becky cut promos against each other all day. Alexa is the second best heel in the division. The only two heels that really matter in the women's division are her and Charlotte.
Storm In A Teacup 02.02.17	Rosemary is my favorite woman's division heel currently in all companies. Her entrance and promos keep getting better
JeetJeet 02.02.17	No idea what she's about since I don't really like NXT. If she's good she needs to be called up. The women's division is being carried by Charlotte, Becky, & Alexa.
DinosaurJones 02.02.17	*psssst* (Rosemary is in TNAerrr.... Impact Wrestling)
Storm In A Teacup 02.02.17	Lol
MalleusMaleficarum 02.02.17	WWE? More like What the FUCK are THESE shitty wrestlers doing on my TEE VEE
DinosaurJones 02.02.17	Wait, does SD consistently have a 4 person announce team? Like, is that a normal thing?
Storm In A Teacup 02.03.17	yeah
DinosaurJones 02.03.17	Chuck Otunga. At this rate, chuck JBL too. Keep Philips and Mauro. I'm fine with them.
JeetJeet 02.03.17	They need to bring Joey Styles back to commentary. Styles & Graves on Raw. That's what I fuckin want. Kick out Cole and keep Byron as the de-facto punching bag.
bloc 02.03.17	"At this rate, chuck JBL too." But what about MAGGLE COAL, that shit is hilarious
JeetJeet 02.03.17	Replace JBL with Tripp Bradshaw
bloc 02.03.17	Oh shit I just read Rollins injured his knee again from the Joe ambush damn I hope it's a work...
bloc 02.03.17	Also Kelly Kelly on the soap opera Days Of Our Lives looooooool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcj_96F3gKA
DinosaurJones 02.03.17	Cole and JBL aren't even on the same show anymore tho. Yeah, They're evaluating how long Rollins will be out. Optimistically, they're saying 8 weeks, which means that technically he could still be at WM, but how can he really work a program at that point?
bloc 02.03.17	Yeah that is some really bad luck. The man is one of the best faces right now. Also, I hear an insane rumor about Cena's WM plans. It's him and Nikki vs. Miz and Maryse bwahaha
bloc 02.03.17	Holy shit this is godly. Fans reacting to Reigns at #30 https://twitter.com/WrestlingLAD/status/826119608432263168
JeetJeet 02.03.17	Cena & Nikki vs Miz & Maryse? wtf? WHYYYYY?
calmrose 02.03.17	if some of the rumored matches for Mania are actually going to take place, this Mania will be pretty lame, it's not looking that great
BallsToTheWall 02.03.17	Hilarious video bloc.
DinosaurJones 02.03.17	I thought that WWE were looking to make a WM as good as Wrestle Kingdom...
calmrose 02.03.17	lol yeah that's what I thought also, they wanted to top Omega/Okada too for a main event
BallsToTheWall 02.03.17	Roman Reigns god damn.
calmrose 02.03.17	I want to see Styles vs Balor at Mania for a brand supremacy match, just let those two go all out, or Styles vs Nakamura would be sweet if Nakamura is called up to SD I just miss Balor though, I want to see him coup de grace-ing people again
bloc 02.03.17	There's a list of 6 or 7 tentative matches for WM, and it makes it seem like it's gonna be the worst WM ever no exaggeration. "Cena & Nikki vs Miz & Maryse? wtf? WHYYYYY?" To make matters worse, an additional rumor is that once Cena and Nikki win, Cena's gonna propose...
BallsToTheWall 02.03.17	I'd rather relive the Edge/Lita/Hardy saga.
DinosaurJones 02.03.17	Ahahaha, that video is the gift that keeps on giving.
rufinthefury 02.04.17	I want Deke Stokes at Wrestlemania
DinosaurJones 02.06.17	Soooooo... wtf is Styles gonna do at WM?
calmrose 02.06.17	rumors are a match with fucking Shane McMahon lol
DinosaurJones 02.06.17	Oh... oh, dear. This WM is shaping up to be quite the shitshow.
calmrose 02.06.17	yes it is unfortunately
bloc 02.06.17	Yeah if the rumors of some of these matches are true, this WM is gonna be even worse than the last few.
DinosaurJones 02.06.17	Yeesh... Is there at least going to be a Takeover event to look forward to? Lol.
rufinthefury 02.06.17	Always a Takeover before Mania, don't worry. http://imgur.com/gallery/zLZgO
DinosaurJones 02.06.17	Well, that's a plus, at least. Still though, even NXT isn't as good as it used to be.
rufinthefury 02.06.17	Nope. It's a stale product with the same storylines over and over again. I'm hoping for Sanity to take off because Eric Young is really stupidly good, but I'm not holding my breath for them to get over for a while.
DinosaurJones 02.06.17	I read an article recently that HHH is disappointed with the current state of NXT, actually. I can't blame him, there was a lot of amazing talent with great storylines going for awhile. Now there's not as much talent, and there just... aren't really any storylines at all.
rufinthefury 02.06.17	THeres literally only three good women's wrestlers on NXT right now. Tag Team division is just being dominated by Authors of Pain who are too green and dangerous to get behind, Hideo is still out, Tye is getting stomped by Sanity who aren't over at all, and the main event scene is just boring. Why? No main event feuds. Just " I'm the best" "no, I'm the best," etc
DinosaurJones 02.06.17	I really think NXT could benefit from some of the main roster guys being part of the program like they did a few years ago with Ryder, Tyson Kidd, and Cesaro. I also think some of the people they pushed to the main roster really needed some more work... Nia Jax and Apollo Cree--, uh Crews, anyone?
JeetJeet 02.06.17	Speaking of NXT, I watched an old ep of it a few days ago. I'm talking old as in Leo fuckin Kruger lurking around old. Corey Graves was still wrestling old. I'm feeling like those were the best days of the brand. They really fucked up Leo Kruger though. From that to Adam Rose? Yikes.
DinosaurJones 02.06.17	It sucks that Graves had to retire from in-ring action, but I have to say that I really enjoy his work on commentary.
JeetJeet 02.06.17	Yea he's my favorite commentator right now. His comedic timing is great and the way he rips into Saxton and Cole is hilarious.
bloc 02.06.17	"there was a lot of amazing talent with great storylines going for awhile. Now there's not as much talent, and there just... aren't really any storylines at all." This is a pretty easy fix. I think the issue is that they keep calling NXT guys up to SD and Raw waaaay too early. In the last year they've transferred over almost every top guy/girl to the big leagues. Now there's too many of them on the roster and not enough to do.
bloc 02.06.17	Agreed, Graves is entertaining as hell. Especially when he bullies Saxton lol. I also like Mauro Ranallo from SD.
DinosaurJones 02.06.17	Yeah, Mauro is great as well. I can't fathom the 4 man team for SD though. Seriously, just chuck Otunga. The dude is a black hole of charisma.
bloc 02.06.17	Lol yeah why the fuck do they need 4 guys? That came out of nowhere. Raw is double the length yet it remains at 3. Otunga could stay if they had someone bullying his ass too.
SteveOffProbation 02.06.17	1000th comment fuck yea fuck maururoruo rnonalodao
Storm In A Teacup 02.06.17	if only mauro could get everyone's name right for just one show he'd be good.
Storm In A Teacup 02.06.17	otunga could disappear forever and no one would notice, aside from possible immediate quality improvements
DinosaurJones 02.06.17	I haven't watched an NXT since Percy Watson joined, but in every picture I've seen of him on commentary, he looks dead inside. A far cry from the dude from like 7 years ago who was dancing all the time and wore colorful glasses.
Storm In A Teacup 02.06.17	that video package for corey graves made it seem like he'd been shot and killed lol. grave's commentary after the tribute was fucking gold. and his last match to call in nxt being elias Sampson was hilarious.
DinosaurJones 02.06.17	That's pretty much how all their video packages are. You can talk shit on WWE's quality all you want, but their production is usually gold, especially their video packages. The Rock/Austin hype vid from WMX7 makes My Way one of the best songs ever. THAT'S quality.
Storm In A Teacup 02.06.17	Yeah but specifically I was talking about they made it seem like he was leaving WWE entirely
DinosaurJones 02.06.17	Lol. I remember the package they made for Jeff hardy using Our Lady Peace's "Not Enough", that was similar. It was like "Oh shit, did he finally die?" NOPE. They're just trying to hype him up.
Storm In A Teacup 02.06.17	I'd get that they're trying to hype him up if he wasn't on raw commentary but he's already on raw commentary. I guess they just like giving credit to every character that passes through nxt
rufinthefury 02.06.17	Yeah he's graduating up. It's like Sami having his final match with Nakamura on NXT. He was already on the main roster; it was just a final farewell. Same with Graves here. You always get a send off on your last show if you were a staple there. "This is a pretty easy fix. I think the issue is that they keep calling NXT guys up to SD and Raw waaaay too early. In the last year they've transferred over almost every top guy/girl to the big leagues. Now there's too many of them on the roster and not enough to do." Meltzer confirmed that Tye is NOT going to the main roster for a while, the Rumble was a one off thing. So we'll see what happens. Hopefully they pipe him into the main event scene of NXT against Roode.
Storm In A Teacup 02.06.17	Meh
Storm In A Teacup 02.07.17	Joe's gonna get fed to Roman on his first official night god damn
calmrose 02.07.17	lol no he's not, Strowman will interfere to "hype" up their Fastlane match
Storm In A Teacup 02.07.17	that's worse
rufinthefury 02.07.17	Can a heel win clean once please
Storm In A Teacup 02.07.17	please
Storm In A Teacup 02.07.17	was the last significant main roster clean heel victory KO and Cena?
DinosaurJones 02.07.17	Only one heel per division is allowed to win clean Heavyweight: Styles Cruiserweight: Neville Women: Charlotte Tag Team: LOL tag teams.
Storm In A Teacup 02.07.17	so was the last significant main roster clean heel victory KO and Cena?
DinosaurJones 02.07.17	Styles probably has a number of clean victories, no? Or are we still going on the Styles isn't really a heel train. If that's the case, then yeah, Owens over Cena is probably the last clean heel victory... 2 years ago or something like that.
Storm In A Teacup 02.07.17	AJ is the man announced as the face that runs the place and he's cheered so
DinosaurJones 02.07.17	I would love Jericho & Owens even more if they were winning clean. It's not like it's their fault though.
rufinthefury 02.07.17	"AJ is the man announced as the face that runs the place and he's cheered so" so do you wake up stupid or do you have to try to say these things?
DinosaurJones 02.07.17	Congratulations, marks. We officially have more comments than the UFC discussion thread.
rufinthefury 02.07.17	FUCK EM
Storm In A Teacup 02.07.17	I've been up for 30 hours. I've never drank after being up that long. You guys think I should try some scotch and see how it affects me?
Spec 02.07.17	Be careful my man it'll hit you twice as hard if you haven't slept
Storm In A Teacup 02.07.17	Hopesfall records just arrived so I HAVE to celebrate now.
Spec 02.07.17	Oh daaaaamn. Do it.
rufinthefury 02.08.17	Opening match for Smackdown was soooo good
rufinthefury 02.08.17	DOUBLE POST BUT FUCK IT PUSH ASCENSION
mifzal 02.08.17	WWE never had hotter diva since Maria Kanellis
Storm In A Teacup 02.08.17	mmm
Storm In A Teacup 02.08.17	"AJ is the man announced as the face that runs the place and he's cheered so" "so do you wake up stupid or do you have to try to say these things" nah you just have narrow perspectives. it is a negative thing for AJ to be so over and be in a heel role that he can't get booed. it's not a success in terms of accomplishing his role as a heel. he knows that himself.
DinosaurJones 02.08.17	I'm not a fan of microtransaction games (which I'm sure it is, "free to play," right?) but I might get that WWE Champions game as a time-waster.
JeetJeet 02.08.17	It looks fun yea. Could see myself killing hours at work on the shitter playing that on my phone.
DinosaurJones 02.08.17	It's basically Bejeweled with a WWE skin. What was the game that came out a few years ago with the models all jacked up like in this? All-Stars or Superstars or something like that?
JeetJeet 02.08.17	Idk what the name was but I know what you're talking about. I wanted to get that game but I never had enough space on my phone for it lol. I'd shell out money for a good WWE game before I buy the network/WWE merch.
Storm In A Teacup 02.11.17	Pay per view already. Jesus
DinosaurJones 02.13.17	I gotta say, Elimination Chamber was pretty great, honestly. Orton/Harper delivered, the tag team match was pretty great, despite most of the teams being jobbers. The only weak match was Nikki/Natalya, which is not a surprise. The chamber match itself was actually damn awesome. My only complaint was how Miz was eliminated. They made him look great for a second, and then he got taken out by one AA? IT'S THE ONLY MOVE HE TOOK ALL MATCH. That was pretty BS.
Storm In A Teacup 02.13.17	Well this pretty much confirmed Cena Bella vs Miz maryse. Pay per view last night was a 4/5. Great stuff
Storm In A Teacup 02.13.17	I am so excited Bray won the title clean beating AJ and Cena for it.
DinosaurJones 02.13.17	It was awesome. I hope he has a good reign. I also hope that he beats Orton at WM, because we all know that's is what this building towards. Looks like they're going the Ambrose/Corbin route as well. Miz/Cena... And that leaves Styles with... Who knows, but he better get a good match, because that man delivers everytime he steps into the ring.
JeetJeet 02.13.17	The rumors of a Styles/Shane o Macaroni feud are looking real valid right now, unless they decide to throw AJ into the fold of the Bray/Orton match.
DinosaurJones 02.13.17	Shane-o should not be wrestling. The reliance on part-timers at this WM is getting silly. Goldberg, Lesnar, Taker, Shane... I swear to Jebus, if they have Goldberg squash Owens for the title so they can have Goldberg vs. Lesnar be for the strap... just... ugh. DO NOT PUT THE TITLE ON PART TIMERS.
Storm In A Teacup 02.13.17	But they've always relied on old timers
DinosaurJones 02.13.17	Yeah, I'm sure that the Rock will make an appearance. And maybe some of the other guys. Why, I have no idea. They have such an amazing crop of talent that does nothing because creative is awful, lol. They should hire whoever runs the WWE Creative Humor twitter. "Bray Wyatt may be a demented cult leader who follows his own rules, but even he isn't above pointing at the WrestleMania sign."
Storm In A Teacup 02.13.17	Orton vs Wyatt Lesnar vs Goldberg KO vs Chris Jericho Cena vs Miz AJ vs Shane Undertaker vs Braun Stroman vs Sami Zayn Big Show vs Shaquille O'Neal Ambrose vs everybody TLC Bailey vs Charlotte vs Banks Mickie James vs Becky Lunch vs Naomi vs Alexa Bliss
DinosaurJones 02.13.17	That looks pretty accurate except for the Taker match... pretty sure they're going Taker vs. Reigns. Also, lol Becky Lunch.
Storm In A Teacup 02.13.17	In my mind no one on the roster has the name Reigns. That person doesn't exist. "Becky Lunch" lol, I do that a lot when sputniking on my phone.
rufinthefury 02.13.17	EC was 50/50 duds and goods. Tag Team stuff was great but it made the Ascension look weaker than any jobbers to have jobbed before. The 2 on 1 handicap match was fucking atrocious. Nikki and Nattie had a snoozer AND THE FEUD STILL ISNT OVER. Naomi beating Alexa is a feel good moment but it came with little build and I still don't like Naomi. Lynch v James was great. Harper v Orton was really, really good, like for real throw Haper in the main event at Mania too for a Wyatt triple threat. That'd be awesome. And of course, the Elimination Chamber match was top notch. I have literally only 2 complaints: 1) way to fucking job out The Miz there to one AA. Fuck you Cena. 2) Holy shit, FUCK that spot where they were hitting each other on the plexiglass on top of the cell. Dude, that shit falls out all the fucking time. You accidentally throw your buddy into that plastic a bit too hard and he's fucking dead.
Storm In A Teacup 02.14.17	ready for bray wyatts reign of terror for the next 5 years please
Storm In A Teacup 02.14.17	the ascension are so buried the only way to save them is if Bray Wyatt chooses to save them
Storm In A Teacup 02.14.17	=0
DinosaurJones 02.14.17	The Ascension were rad in NXT. once they hit the main roster, for some reason they were turned into a joke.
Storm In A Teacup 02.14.17	My poor Jericho :'''( the festival of friendship was going so well! What a great turn
DinosaurJones 02.14.17	I feel like that solidifies Owens losing to Goldberg and going on to feud with Jericho. That should be for the Universal title, not the U.S. title... but alas...
DinosaurJones 02.14.17	Also, that painting was gold.
Storm In A Teacup 02.14.17	I would hang that painting in my house and I would never put anything wrestling up for show. Actually that's the first wrestling related item I ever wanted besides a chain wrapped around my fist when I was like 12 lol
Storm In A Teacup 02.14.17	"I want you to make me, 'The Creation of Kevin'. Paint it up maaaan."
Storm In A Teacup 02.14.17	Seriously that was whole segment was Chris Jericho's masterpiece
DinosaurJones 02.14.17	I wonder how he'll pull off being a face. He usually can't do it for long anymore. Probably means he'll be leaving after WM to go back to Fozzy :(
rufinthefury 02.14.17	A heel turned heel last night. Incredible. "Why is my name on this?" TOP TEN SADDEST ANIME DEATHS
DinosaurJones 02.14.17	That could easily have been so much more dramatic... "...why is my name on this?" *Cut to KO* *Cut back to Jericho* *Slow zoom on "The List of KO"* *Slow pan up to Jericho's face with tears in his eyes* HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN TO MEEEEEEEEEEE
rufinthefury 02.14.17	Nah no need. It was a pretty subtle segment overall, especially with showing the KO logo on the back of the list at the very end. I would not want to see them go overboard with it because WWE is never subtle so I want this one moment at least. It was brilliant, bravo RAW for doing at least one thing really great. reddit.com/r/wrestlewiththesteen had a fucking nuclear meltdown.
DinosaurJones 02.14.17	It was definitely a well done segment. I'm just sad that it means for sure KO is losing to Goldberg, because he hasn't won a title match clean since... uh... well... Anyways, all they've been doing is harping on the fact that he only wins because of Jericho, and no more Jericho means no more title. Which is pretty lame. If they swerve me on this one, I'll applaud the hell out of it, but I don't see it happening.
BallsToTheWall 02.14.17	GILLBERG GILLBERG
rufinthefury 02.14.17	no way does KO win.
Storm In A Teacup 02.14.17	I wish he fuckin would win tho but that's impossible. No way unless Brock and Jericho both return at fastlane.
DinosaurJones 02.14.17	Also, odds on Charlotte winning back the title at Fastlane?
rufinthefury 02.14.17	100%. Baylay chases for it at Mania.
JeetJeet 02.15.17	Please get Cena the fuck outta the paint. How dare this nigga disrupt Bray's godly first promo as champ
Storm In A Teacup 02.15.17	Yeah to both
JeetJeet 02.15.17	Good GOD this triple threat match.....WHEEEEEWWWWW
rufinthefury 02.15.17	Awesome smackdown, awesome 205 Live. Tozawa is god.
DinosaurJones 02.15.17	Why is Smackdown generally exponentially better than RAW
Storm In A Teacup 02.15.17	Because the writer for smackdown was the writer for ROH.
Storm In A Teacup 02.15.17	I can totally see Jericho being like "He took the heart of Jericho, and he broke it maaaàan"
DinosaurJones 02.15.17	That makes a lot of sense. There's only going to be one person on the new List of Jericho.
JeetJeet 02.15.17	If Bray retains at WM I'm gonna jump out the window out of pure happiness.
DinosaurJones 02.15.17	Bray really should. Orton is a made man, he doesn't need the title.
Calc 02.15.17	I worked a smackdown event on the 5th, and holy shit john cena is a specimen. the whole production is pretty laughable though but it was cool to see kinda what happens after the show would cut to commercial.
Storm In A Teacup 02.15.17	A specimen of how to suck.
Storm In A Teacup 02.15.17	The production is like their strongest asset too
Black Ink 02.15.17	It isn't easy to build and break down a massive set and production like that every week.
Calc 02.15.17	no it aint, they certainly had enough semis outside though holy shit. I meant like the performers rolling around on the ground waiting for triggers to get up and continue the match, not the behind the scenes stuff that was impressive and well coordinated. and I saw my boy tajiri spit in some dudes face and I'm surprised he's still in the game so it was a good event, prolly wouldn't work one again though.
Storm In A Teacup 02.15.17	The point is John Cena is trash
JeetJeet 02.15.17	Bray/Styles/Orton for WM main event needs to happen.
claygurnz 02.15.17	I start work at 5am and everyday my Supervisor sings Bobby Roode's theme song continuously
DinosaurJones 02.15.17	GLORIOUS
rufinthefury 02.15.17	"The point is John Cena is trash" I see you've never seen a Summerslam in your life.
Storm In A Teacup 02.15.17	Yeah cuz Cena's been in every SummerSlam
rufinthefury 02.15.17	and that's why you missed his 4.5* match. once again, fake fan please leave.
Storm In A Teacup 02.15.17	You are in the minority lol
Storm In A Teacup 02.15.17	Unless you're talking about Cena vs Lesnar. That was a 6/5
rufinthefury 02.15.17	A fan of wrestling matches with little to no actual wrestling and only the spamming of the same moves over and over? Keep on digging that hole bitch boy.
Storm In A Teacup 02.15.17	John Cena got squashed is all that needs to be said about that match to get a 5/5
Storm In A Teacup 02.15.17	Bro you're defending John Cena and old enough to have a job. Who's the bitch boy?
rufinthefury 02.15.17	The guy who says bro like they're Vince Russo. Fuck, I bet you liked it when Arquette won the title.
Storm In A Teacup 02.16.17	I don't know what you mean when you say "the guy who says bro like they're Vince Russo". I wasn't referencing an actual review, if that's what you are referencing, you fucking nerd. And I never even watched Arquette winning the title so fuck off.
Maco097 02.16.17	Can't remember the last time I so was entertained with Smackdown, it's been 9 years.
rufinthefury 02.16.17	>Doesn't watch matches >Doesn't pay for any promotions >Doesn't watch any promotions outside of WWE >Only complains about WWE >Doesn't know their history >Doesn't know some of the most infamous people in wrestling history Fake fan.
DinosaurJones 02.16.17	Well, looks like the Sputnik WM card is shaping up. It's gonna be Storm In A Teacup vs rufinthefury in a No DQ 2 out of 3 falls match.
Storm In A Teacup 02.16.17	Dude you're fucking crazy. I watch more outside WWE than wwe itself. Half of what you just said is factually wrong anyway. Keep being a dumb fuck who is consistently making up shit and shitting on people because they have different opinions than you. Not everyone is a clone of you, sucking WWE Cena dick, get the fuck over it.
Storm In A Teacup 02.16.17	Every bullet point you made is wrong lol.
JeetJeet 02.16.17	I'm still wondering why we're getting Big Show vs Shaq at Mania. What a waste of time that'll be. I'm wondering what Joe's role will be at WM.
Storm In A Teacup 02.16.17	That's what big show has wanted to do for his retirement celebration for years. He's basically made it happen himself.
DinosaurJones 02.16.17	I mean, kudos to the guy, he's lost a ton of weight and is looking ripped. I hope the match is at least entertaining and not a total stinker.
rufinthefury 02.16.17	"Every bullet point you made is wrong lol." "I don't know what you mean when you say "the guy who says bro like they're Vince Russo". I wasn't referencing an actual review, if that's what you are referencing, you fucking nerd. And I never even watched Arquette winning the title so fuck off." Please, tell me more.
Storm In A Teacup 02.16.17	I will when I'm not smoking weed or making money
rufinthefury 02.17.17	I do the same thing without being a complete moron. Try it sometime.
Storm In A Teacup 02.17.17	Try accepting people have different opinions than you
DinosaurJones 02.17.17	I didn't watch Arquette winning the title. Why would I want to watch a top promotion give their title to a celebrity?
Storm In A Teacup 02.17.17	Ya and I was too young back then to even watch but I've heard about it and it sounds lame
anat 02.17.17	it's totally lame but also somehow a resplendent moment in pro wrestling history by way of being so nuts. also the triple cage was such a sick concept imo
DinosaurJones 02.17.17	They need to bring back War Games
Titan 02.17.17	RIP George 'The Animal' Steele a true legend
DinosaurJones 02.18.17	Damn, yeah, I saw that earlier. RIP Also RIP to Chavo Classic as well. He was on Lucha Underground just a few months back, I didn't know he had cancer :(
Storm In A Teacup 02.18.17	RIP The Wolves :'(
anat 02.18.17	it's been a bad week for wrestling deaths
Storm In A Teacup 02.18.17	Especially the Wolves.
Storm In A Teacup 02.18.17	But that was last week not this week. This week they are still fighting
Storm In A Teacup 02.20.17	From what's happening in TNA and other promotions I guess the Hardy's signed the contract with TNA that lets TNA control the Hardy's appearances at other promotions. But TNA is also broadcasting those matches on impact. And they're all probably title matches. So this means the elite / young bucks are probably going to appear on the Impact show
JeetJeet 02.20.17	Hardy's vs The Bucks is a must-see. Also RIP to The Wolves. Best tag team of the 2010s IMO.
JeetJeet 02.20.17	Like it's kinda criminal how underrated The Wolves have been. That series of matches they had with Team 3D and The Hardy's were nothing short of legendary, and yet so many people overlooked all of it because of the whole stigma TNA usually gets.
DinosaurJones 02.20.17	I just know I'm looking forward to another lackluster, probably 7 hour long WM next month!
calmrose 02.20.17	ahhhh yeeeaahhh, pumped seriously though, if we don't get Styles vs. Nakamura or Styles vs. Balor...just please don't have Styles face Shane
DinosaurJones 02.20.17	I don't see them going with anything else...
calmrose 02.20.17	I know, it's WWE so of course that's the match they're going to do, just wishful thinking on my end haha
Storm In A Teacup 02.20.17	@JeetJeet: I agree. The Wolves run in TNA was all time great stuff with other legends. For me The Wolves are a top 5 greatest tag team of the last 15 years.
rufinthefury 02.22.17	Usos with the best promo of their whole career last night
DinosaurJones 02.22.17	I actually really enjoy this heel turn by them. It's unfortunate that the only 2 legit tag teams on SD are American Alpha and the Usos. I hope the Revival get called up after WM. Meanwhile, over on RAW, you've got Reigns squashing the tag champs 1v2.
Maco097 02.22.17	Raw this week was horse shit.
DinosaurJones 02.22.17	The ONLY things I saw from RAW (I usually only watch highlights) were Owens' opening promo and Reigns squashing Anderson & Gallows.
rufinthefury 02.22.17	Owens promo was god tier though. Also, more Joe killing Zayn.
JeetJeet 02.22.17	Lol I tuned into Raw at the last moment and saw Stroman serve Reigns with a dropkick. Shyt had me in tears but I marked out @ the same time.
Storm In A Teacup 02.23.17	loved owens promo and then passed out right away for the night when I saw Enzo and cass on the screen.
bloc 03.01.17	I know I'm late as fuck, but y'all catch that Uso promo on American Alpha on last Tuesday's SD? Holy shit it was incredible. Easy contender for promo of the year thus far.
Storm In A Teacup 03.01.17	yeah. rock and usos as a major heel stable where they all are just fucking badasses would be awesome. see them come destroy john cena and then triple h samoa joe and kevin owens. not really but lol
rufinthefury 03.01.17	Smackdown face fucked RAW this week
Maco097 03.01.17	FUCK FUCK FUCK I missed Smackdown. I only watched the last segment which was superbly done.
Storm In A Teacup 03.01.17	oh my god
Storm In A Teacup 03.01.17	and then the hardys and drew vanillaway and mike bennet and maria all left TNA this week so oh my god to that too
Storm In A Teacup 03.01.17	I'm gonna need rosemary to quit tna so Sister Abigail's spirit can travel and inhabit her body.
DinosaurJones 03.01.17	Not how I expected the Wyatt/Orton rivalry to turn out... but I'll take it!
JeetJeet 03.01.17	Guys.....the Wyatt Family is done :(
DinosaurJones 03.01.17	Nah, just wait until Rowan comes back!
JeetJeet 03.01.17	Man FUCK Rowan nobody cares about his ass. The Wyatt Familia is fuckin done. I'm in shambles maaaannnn.
DinosaurJones 03.01.17	Ahaha, it's true. Well, they had a good run. And to be honest, this is a much better sendoff than they had a few years ago when Wyatt was just like "I set them free" and then Rowan and Harper shifted around aimlessly for a few months before the writers were like "Oh shit, this isn't working, let's put them back together!"
Storm In A Teacup 03.01.17	Just wait till you guys realize the Wyatt Family doesn't die, it poltergeists
DinosaurJones 03.01.17	I'd be okay with that.
rufinthefury 03.01.17	Rowan v Rock Twice In A Lifetime
JeetJeet 03.01.17	Orton's turn was brilliant tbh. Campy as hell but Bray sold it so well.
rufinthefury 03.01.17	my fucking stream cut out after the Becky/James match and I missed alllllll that cool shit on Smackdown last night. I was pissed af
rufinthefury 03.01.17	thank god for the WWE youtube channel even if they do edit down all the matches to like 3 minutes. better than nothing
Storm In A Teacup 03.01.17	The Hardys have a bunch of tag titles including TNA's tag titles that they're trying to get back. If the Hardys debut as the Broken Brothers or Annunaki and Brother Nero with the tna titles on wwe I'm going to freak the fuck out.
Storm In A Teacup 03.01.17	yeah if you didn't know right before the hardys left Broken Matt had another gimmick change. he reverted into his original vessel from 7 A.D. the Egyptian Pharaoh Anunnaki.
Storm In A Teacup 03.01.17	the dilipated boat become a golden arc and it was supposed to be the vessel that would carry all of the hardys tag team titles after they won every single tag title, IN THE WORLD!
DinosaurJones 03.03.17	That... that doesn't even seem that outrageous, to be honest.
Storm In A Teacup 03.03.17	Matt sensed he would revert to his original form ahead of time so he transferred all of his broken powers to Jeff and he gained Matt's gimmick.
Storm In A Teacup 03.03.17	And Vanguard 1 has the power to teleport them to anywhere in the world so they'd been teleporting to random promotions and demanding tag titles matches
DinosaurJones 03.03.17	Can he finally just complete his transformation into a power ranger?
Storm In A Teacup 03.03.17	I NEED broken Matt in wwe. An invasion angle at WrestleMania or anytime would be amazing. Would it be sister Abigail's freed spirit vs the seven Deity's? Idk but I need it
DinosaurJones 03.03.17	From the looks of it, it's said that the Hardy's felt "insulted" by what TNA was offering. They also pretty much want complete creative control over their characters, which to be fair, should be a given with how they've reinvented themselves. On the other had, when does WWE give complete creative control to ANYONE? Something else that might be a hint is that Matt is closing down his online store. Possibly because Reby is pregnant again, but maybe because they wouldn't be able to independently sell their merch if they signed on with WWE? WHO KNOWS.
rufinthefury 03.03.17	Orton v Styles on Smackdown this Tuesday, get fuckin HYPED FOR A FOREARM INTO AN RKO
Storm In A Teacup 03.03.17	Styles vs Shane is not hype to me but AJ Styles is the best wrestler in the world and Shane McMahon has had at least one 5 stat match in my opinion so they can make something lame into something good
Storm In A Teacup 03.03.17	I seriously crave a wide eyed open mouthed crazed Broken Matt on WWE tv. Guys. Seriously. We need this
anat 03.03.17	disappointed that we're getting styles/shane but i'm sure it'll exceed expectations and it's still a marquee match holding out hope that they let harper into the WWE title match, as good as the story's been (better than expected) if it's a triple threat they have such a good opportunity to write a classic
JeetJeet 03.03.17	In all honesty the best match would be Harper/Styles/Bray/Orton in a fatal 4way at WM. That's what we all wanna see. For some reason they think we want Styles v Shane. Nobody wants that, just like nobody wants Cena and Nikki vs Miz and Maryse or Show vs Shaq.
anat 03.03.17	doesn't look like show/shaq is happening anymore
JeetJeet 03.03.17	Oh well at least that one is outta the way. Now if only someone could snap some sense into the writers and tell them that putting Styles against Shane is pretty much a giant misuse of AJ.
Storm In A Teacup 03.03.17	I think Shaq is trying to fool people. He had posted a video in January saying he was getting in shape for it
DominionMM1 03.04.17	"Fuck, I bet you liked it when Arquette won the title." best moment in wrestling history
calmrose 03.04.17	"Orton v Styles on Smackdown this Tuesday, get fuckin HYPED FOR A FOREARM INTO AN RKO" 450 splash into an RKO would be way more insane
Storm In A Teacup 03.04.17	yeah, too bad aj isn't so old.
JeetJeet 03.04.17	I'll probably get shit for this but I think the RKO is way more iconic than the diamond cutter. This is coming from a DDP fanboy.
DominionMM1 03.04.17	disagreed but i don't even know what rko is
JeetJeet 03.04.17	Look up “Best RKOs" on YouTube breh.
DominionMM1 03.04.17	I'm assuming it's orton's finishing move, and is similar in execution to the stone cold stunner and the diamond cutter
Storm In A Teacup 03.04.17	it's about equal in terms of infamy with the stunner. it's surpassed the stunner for anyone under 20. I had a comment that wasn't so straightforward about it but it didn't post and I don't want to rethink all that. basically the rko is bigger than the diamond cutter and the stunner nowadays and will be remembered more because it reached more people. kept vine online an extra 12 months after all!
rufinthefury 03.04.17	"I'll probably get shit for this but I think the RKO is way more iconic than the diamond cutter. This is coming from a DDP fanboy." definitely true even though i prefer the DC myself
JeetJeet 03.04.17	Social media definitely played a big part in it. There was a time back in 2015-16 when you couldn't get on Twitter/FB/YouTube without seeing an “RKO OUTTA NOWHERE " video.
DominionMM1 03.04.17	awesome that ddp is getting into the hof btw. now when will the ravishing one get in?
Storm In A Teacup 03.04.17	ten years after she fucks cena like Victoria.
DominionMM1 03.04.17	I was talking about rick rude homie
calmrose 03.05.17	Who's ready for Goldberg to become Universal Champion tonight......
Maco097 03.05.17	Nooooooooooooooo
p4p 03.05.17	ugh i want KO to win but i know its going to be a textbook face v heel match. also, Orton doesn't need a title shot or maybe he can wait until survivor series when Bray lose the title to AJ in summerslam
rufinthefury 03.05.17	"ten years after she fucks cena like Victoria." you really dont know your wrestling history, huh. Fastlane might be the most easily predictable pay-per-view of the year.
TedSchmosby 03.05.17	What are your predictions ruf?
Storm In A Teacup 03.05.17	I just like setting bait for you at this point furry
Minushuman24 03.05.17	I have far too much hope for this ppv to play out differently
DinosaurJones 03.06.17	Everyone make sure to keep checking out Aries' package. It's being shown for the second time tonight.
calmrose 03.06.17	"you know they had over 4 hours of footage they had to trim down for my package, my package is huge" FUCKING AUSTIN ARIES, guy's gold
calmrose 03.06.17	motn so far
DinosaurJones 03.06.17	That Cruiserweight match was awesome.
calmrose 03.06.17	is Roman Reigns wearing gym shoes?!?!
DinosaurJones 03.06.17	Lol, I dunno, he's definitely not wearing boots. They're very noticeable though.
DinosaurJones 03.06.17	Oh, and whaddaya know, they fed Strowman to Reigns. HOW SURPRISING.
calmrose 03.06.17	wow...because Reigns definitely needed this win
rufinthefury 03.06.17	BULL fucking shit Reigns won. Fuck that noise. Ready for the Hot Potato Championship?
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	damnit man what about braun's mystique!!!
DinosaurJones 03.06.17	It's WM season. Gotta get Roman ready for that main event he'll somehow find his way into!
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	no
calmrose 03.06.17	well that was a fucking stupid ending
rufinthefury 03.06.17	As Corey Graves said, "this is garbage"
calmrose 03.06.17	lololol saw that coming
DinosaurJones 03.06.17	Yeah, saw that coming. Still stupid as hell though.
rufinthefury 03.06.17	I expected nothing and I'm still letdown.
Maco097 03.06.17	The horror.
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	the women's and men's title matches were both awkward af
DinosaurJones 03.06.17	That Cruiserweight match tho
rufinthefury 03.06.17	I wasn't as into it as everyone else in the world seems to be. I thought it was good but Zayn v Joe is MOTN for me still
DinosaurJones 03.06.17	So can Goldberg just not work a match anymore, or what? Are they trying to show that the Spear and Jackhammer are all that he needs, or is that seriously all he can do (and subsequently, all that he needs to squash everyone?) I am so disgusted by this booking.
Minushuman24 03.06.17	WELP This show was nooooooooooot very good Neville and Gallagher killed it though
DinosaurJones 03.06.17	Yeah, I gotta say, I wasn't interested in a lot of it. It was more background noise to me. I knew KO vs Goldberg was gonna be shit either way when it was 10:58 EST and they were finally getting started. Props to Neville and Gallagher though.
anat 03.06.17	didn't watch but have no desire to. i've seen the ko/goldberg match and i just feel ashamed. can't mania be SD exclusive?
DinosaurJones 03.06.17	I'd say don't bother, anatelier. Watch the Neville/Gallagher match if it piques your interest. Zayn/Joe was alright. but otherwise, very forgettable/average.
rufinthefury 03.06.17	Tag Team match ending made the match good
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	Neville and Gallagher seems to overrated because it should have been obvious this was just a stepping stone for Neville. Gallagher is too stupid and too wishy washy bullshitty for him to win before mania. he's just good for wwe's indoctrination of brainwashing over some dumb fucking mustache.
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	if the new day doesn't kayfabe die in a bus explosion or something i'm never gonna be able to watch a full raw roster show without skipping.
DinosaurJones 03.06.17	Also, Aries was a highlight. He had a great package on the show.
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	yeah I heard his package was four hours long so they had to cut it down to normal size
DinosaurJones 03.06.17	Yeah, his package was on the pre-show, but everyone couldn't stop talking about it, so they had to show it again on the main show.
rufinthefury 03.06.17	@Dominion you called it because THE RAVISHING ONE IS FINALLY GOING INTO THE HALL OF FAME
starboystargirl 03.06.17	What do you guys think of Sami Zayn?
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	amazing luchadore
rufinthefury 03.06.17	Best worker in the company next to Styles.
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	sami zayn's potential is to main event wrestlemania
rufinthefury 03.06.17	Zayn is their next Cena if they're not stupid.
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	if I had my way this year just picking up from last night. samoa joe would "injure" sami zayn tonight after one more night of defiance from zayn. samoa joe would enter the andre the giant battle royale, but then sami zayn returns and costs samoa joe the match since there is no dq in the battle royale and they have an impromptu wrestlemania match (after a scorched earth samoa joe promo) where zayn beats dat ass
JeetJeet 03.06.17	He's ok.
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	"if they're not stupid" WHAT
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	might as well do that and have braun now win with the perception that samoa joe would have won since braun got buried last night
JeetJeet 03.06.17	About Zayn. He's great in-ring but his underdog character is just so boring to me. Sure I dig seeing him go HAM in-ring, but that's where it stops. I cant get invested in the guy.
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	well they haven't done anything for you to be able to invest in him. it's not his fault, but yeah, whether it's his fault or not, he's just a vanilla mid carder who is exciting to see in ring.
JeetJeet 03.06.17	I still think they could have done something with the whole Generico gimmick he had way back in the indies. Not saying make him Generico, but let him be a masked character. OR give him some sort of fun alter ego where he dons the mask on special occasions. Shit, anything other than super-babyface underdog.
starboystargirl 03.06.17	Yeah I feel that. He's a great energetic character but they're kinda just sitting on him not doing much with him. I'd like to see him move up from jobber to all-star.
rufinthefury 03.06.17	"WHAT" Do you not understand how much money and publicity John Cena brings to WWE? It's literally his job. He's the babyface that never turned heel (despite being a complete dick in kayfabe every now and again- like recently), the kids love him, he sells a shit ton of merch, and most importantly, HES POPULAR AND FAMOUS OUTSIDE OF JUST WRESTLING. Do you not understand how important it is to have a crossover star? It's more important than literally anything else. Sami Zayn could easily become that kind of star in a year or two and become the next great face champion. I also get the feeling you don't know your history at all because Face champions that win all the time and have gigantic reigns have existed for decades. Have you seen Bruno Sammartino's title reign length?
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	but wwe already worked so desperately, pathetically hard on psychologically displacing el generico's gimmick onto other wrestlers! do you really want all their hard work undone? yes.
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	lol furry I like how all it took was for me to say what to get three half paragraphs out of you.
DinosaurJones 03.06.17	Sorry ruf, but you're wrong. Sami Zayn can't be the next John Cena, because Roman Reigns is CLEARLY the next John Cena. Obviously.
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	he triggers easy, dino, tread carefully around furry
rufinthefury 03.06.17	"lol furry I like how all it took was for me to say what to get three half paragraphs out of you." I know typing and thinking are hard for you but it takes about 10 seconds of time for everyone else. "Sorry ruf, but you're wrong. Sami Zayn can't be the next John Cena, because Roman Reigns is CLEARLY the next John Cena. Obviously." THE BIG DOG!! is obviously going to be the next Superman, not John Cena. And you can Belee Dat
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	you didn't say much so...but hey if you want to talk shit to the one person who was agreeing with you (dumbass), then go ahead. I was the one who said his potential was to main event wrestlemania. you just took it somewhere else as usual tho.
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	omg three halves of three not thought out paragraphs. oh no!!!!!!!!!!!!
DinosaurJones 03.06.17	Also, the Hardys have signed to ROH. Guess no WWE run for them.
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	at least the broken brilliance of Jeff Hardy continues alongside his leader and prophet, Annunaki!
JeetJeet 03.06.17	Rick Rude's gonna get inducted into the HOF
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	yeah lol
Minushuman24 03.06.17	It's honestly probably for the better the hardys didn't return to the WWE, as much as I'd love to see Broken Hardy and Wyatt for the title
Minushuman24 03.06.17	and it's about time http://i.imgur.com/kE3kxIh.gif
rufinthefury 03.06.17	"you didn't say much so...but hey if you want to talk shit to the one person who was agreeing with you (dumbass), then go ahead. I was the one who said his potential was to main event wrestlemania. you just took it somewhere else as usual tho." It's almost like I quoted the part where I disagreed with you and you're ignoring that once again like you always do because you're a retard. "Rick Rude's gonna get inducted into the HOF" And it's about fucking time!
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	WHAT
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	"It's almost like I quoted the part where I disagreed with you and you're ignoring that once again like you always do because you're a retard." you quoted a what joke comment about wwe having brains and that's all it takes to set you off. I know it's rough being a furry, but pull your head out of your ass and stop watching Last Cuck Tonight With Johnny Trigger Warning.
rufinthefury 03.06.17	I'm glad to see you live the gimmick of being a moron outside of just this thread. Giving Jane Doe a 2, tut tut.
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	all I'm seein from you is a bitch cryin
DinosaurJones 03.06.17	I don't particularly care for Jane Doe either, tbh.
Storm In A Teacup 03.06.17	converge made better albums before and after it.
Minushuman24 03.07.17	Petitioning The Empty Sky > Everything
Storm In A Teacup 03.07.17	not a bad choice tbh. they've made a lot better stuff on you fail me tho
BallsToTheWall 03.07.17	I fuckin hate Nia jax. What an oaf.
Minushuman24 03.07.17	I like Nia okay, she has potential But her in ring ability isn't great.... her outfit is garbage... and she just does not have the voice to match her "intimidating" character
Storm In A Teacup 03.07.17	it's too bad she's the rocks cousin. she doesn't seem to have the charisma that the usos or rock have. must be on romans side of the family.
BallsToTheWall 03.07.17	None of the women are even half her size. I'm still chapped about Strowman's loss to Reigns yesterday too. Haha @storm.
Minushuman24 03.07.17	lol After Reigns speared Strowman for the second time, I turned off the tv, got up and left the house to go get some drinks with friends I was done with that bullshit by that time
BallsToTheWall 03.07.17	That was a clown match smh. Braun did more damage to himself than Reigns did.
Minushuman24 03.07.17	As stupid as it was, seeing Braun fly was pretty fucking neato
BallsToTheWall 03.07.17	Yeah it was. I was so hoping he would connect after going off the top rope.
JeetJeet 03.07.17	Seeing Owens destroy Zayn was great. That fisherman neckbreaker is brutal. Fuck Jane Doe btw.
Storm In A Teacup 03.07.17	you mean samoa joe?
p4p 03.07.17	skipped the whole ppv except for the tag team match. watching raw rn and i feel sad seeing KO without the belt.
JeetJeet 03.07.17	Nah. I'm hoping Neville retains tonight.
BallsToTheWall 03.07.17	Same. Heel Neville FTW!
Minushuman24 03.07.17	p4p, you should really check the Cruiserweight match from Fastlane, it's the only thing worthwhile. Or at least check Nevilles sick snap german
BallsToTheWall 03.07.17	FUCK! Swan had that match. Crappy way to close it.
Minushuman24 03.07.17	The Rings of Saturn is the best submission finisher, it looks so vicious
BallsToTheWall 03.07.17	It had the ferocity of a direwolf.
JeetJeet 03.07.17	Aries vs. Neville oh my god
p4p 03.07.17	yea the snap suplex followed by phoenix splash was awesome and the red arrow is quite the spectacle
Minushuman24 03.07.17	AWWWWW YEAHHHHHH https://i.imgur.com/kE3kxIh.gif
Storm In A Teacup 03.07.17	Neville vs Austin Aries for the Cruiserweight Championship at WrestleMania...amazing...
DominionMM1 03.07.17	"Rick Rude's gonna get inducted into the HOF" the fact that koko b ware has been in and rude has had to wait this long is fucking bullshit
BallsToTheWall 03.07.17	Rick Rude's the fucking man, bout fucking time.
Storm In A Teacup 03.07.17	if they inducted the top 5 or 6 most deserving every time the hall of fame would get bad after 5 years
Storm In A Teacup 03.07.17	but i'm not disagreeing that Rick Rude arguably should be in already
DominionMM1 03.07.17	the perfect late 80s/early 90s heel
Storm In A Teacup 03.07.17	that face reigns made when taker grabbed his neck was funny
Storm In A Teacup 03.07.17	Randy Orton vs Bray Wyatt vs ??? Brock Lesnar vs Goldberg Kevin Owens vs Chris Jericho Cena and Nikki Bell vs Miz and Maryse Austin aries vs Neville sasha banks vs charlotte vs bayley The Undertaker vs Roman Reigns (what about Strowman, is this a triple threat?) Seth Rollins Triple H encounter American Alpha vs the Usos Shane Mcmahon ? maybe?
Storm In A Teacup 03.07.17	that's leaving out a few things still like the andre the giant battle royale. damn this card is gonna be huge
Storm In A Teacup 03.07.17	Vince McMahon should fire Mick Foley at WrestleMania and then Stephanie will be in the ring too and steph will laugh and make fun of mick but then he'll put a sock in her mouth and triple h will come to beat up foley, and seth rollins will save mick and destroy triple h. There. =)
Minushuman24 03.07.17	God damn this card is going to be overfull like last year I just wish I cared about more than three matches
DinosaurJones 03.07.17	I just wish I cared about more than 3 three matches [2]
rufinthefury 03.07.17	It can't possibly be worse than last year. Nope. Can't happen. ...please don't be worse than last year.
DinosaurJones 03.07.17	I don't even remember much about last year, TBH. It was Shane vs Taker HIAC. Then there was the crappy HHH vs Reigns main event. ...uhm... The Andre battle royal that Corbin won. Oh yeah, the IC title match that Ryder won. uhhhhhh... the triple threat for the Women's title. Wow, I actually remember more than I thought I would!
rufinthefury 03.07.17	I remember being bored as shit during Shane v Taker, didnt give a fuck about it, it had 2 cool spots, and the match was 100% meaningless afterwards. HHH v Reigns was just like Goldberg v KO in that we all knew the outcome but were pissed anyways. ARMBAR had Corbin win but yeah i dont remember the match itself. IC match was dope as fuck, MOTN as it almost always is. Zayn nailed Owens on the ladder, how can you forget that? I totally forgot about the Women's title match. I was pissed Charlotte won. That was clearly where Sasha should have gone over. Um...New Day had that tag match against League of Nations for no reason and then lost but it wasnt for the Championships for some reason? Then they all got stunnered. It was fucking weird. Last year was bad.
DinosaurJones 03.07.17	I'm almost more interested to see who gets called up after WM or who is going to debut. Last year there was so much hype after that, but this year... well... NXT never really recovered. I can't see Asuka getting called up yet, sadly. They need her down there. I've read reports that Dillinger in the Rumble was a one-off and he's staying in NXT as well. Aries is pretty much on the main roster, confirmed after last night. The only call up I see happening is Nakamura (hopefully). Maybe, MAYBE, the Revival, which would be pretty rad, if they get used properly... which has not been the case with most NXT team call ups. As for new signings or debuts... no idea on that front.
rufinthefury 03.07.17	There's plenty of new women joining NXT, especially with that women's tournament on the horizon so I'm not worried.
Storm In A Teacup 03.07.17	Best thing about WrestleMania last year was thinking Sami Zayn had just killed KO.
DinosaurJones 03.07.17	That was a brutal suplex for sure. Worst part was... well, most of it. I'm honestly still miffed at them having Ryder win the IC title, only to lost it the next night and subsequently be shoved back into the undercard of non-existence.
Storm In A Teacup 03.07.17	Seriously though he almost disappeared inside that ladder. Couldn't have been more perfect
DinosaurJones 03.07.17	How many of the Chinese recruits that they keep hyping up on social media do you think will ever make it to the main roster or even NXT? And how long will it take?
BallsToTheWall 03.07.17	I could rewatch Reigns getting chokeslammed over and over.
JeetJeet 03.07.17	Braun backing down from Taker is so beyond lame. Goddamn I HATE when they do shit like that. Such shitty writing.
BallsToTheWall 03.07.17	Total bitch move.
Storm In A Teacup 03.07.17	Braun is buried and that's his build to an Andre the Giant victory. Dumb as fuck
Storm In A Teacup 03.07.17	I still think big show and shaq are faking but if not I assume show vs strow will happen
JeetJeet 03.07.17	Yikes. What a waste of a perfect monster heel. And I'm hope to god after WM I never have to see The Big Show again.
rufinthefury 03.07.17	Didn't mind it. Did you all miss Undertaker exchange nods with Braun? Braun isn't scared of Taker he respects him like he doesn't respect anyone else. He realized Taker wanted Reigns and let him.
DinosaurJones 03.07.17	If they book Reigns to beat Taker, he will reach X-Pac levels of heat.
Storm In A Teacup 03.07.17	I hope you are right furry. Will have to watch again. That would be a crucial aspect left ignored.
Storm In A Teacup 03.07.17	Reigns is so close to doing something that could break heat wave records.
Storm In A Teacup 03.07.17	And I have a very bad feeling that Roman and Cena could main event WrestleMania together two years in a row. It's obviously going to happen once.
DinosaurJones 03.07.17	ROCK VS CENA... ONCE IN A LIFETIME. ROCK VS CENA... ONCE IN A LIFETIME (AGAIN) ROMAN REIGNS VS JOHN CENA... ONCE IN A LIFETIME ROMAN REIGNS VS JOHN CENA... ONCE IN A LIFETIME (AGAIN)
Minushuman24 03.07.17	It's amazing that in one year, people went from hating the idea of Braun/taker so much that they had to cancel to everyone begging for it over Reigns/taker
DinosaurJones 03.07.17	Braun has actually improved quite a bit. I'd still prefer to see something GOOD... like Jericho/Taker or Styles/Taker... (if we're just talking matches for Undertaker) But alas...
Minushuman24 03.07.17	Styles/Taker would probably be the match I want to see more than any other match combinations at WM. Styles can carry him to a final great match and you also get a fantastic dream match before Styles gets too old. and yeah, Strowman has, he may very well be my favorite part of Raw, along with KO, Sami, and Chris
JeetJeet 03.07.17	What in the fuck is Taker doing on Raw anyway when he was supposed to be Team Smackdown? None of it makes any sense.
p4p 03.07.17	cuz reigns
Storm In A Teacup 03.08.17	shane and Daniel bryan each just had their worst segment as gm and whatever shane is.
DinosaurJones 03.08.17	Commissioner? SD was pretty bad tonight, tbh.
Storm In A Teacup 03.08.17	i'm excited for the main event though. Austin Aries interviews the greatest man to ever live, Austin Aries.
p4p 03.08.17	welp that last match was pretty bad tbh
BallsToTheWall 03.08.17	What an RKO. What a match.
DinosaurJones 03.08.17	Honestly pretty bummed that they're going with AJ vs Shane, unless they pull a swerve and have someone represent Shane. What is it with WWE having great champs, and then not allowing them to carry the belt into WM? (Owens, Styles)
rufinthefury 03.08.17	Orton v Styles last night was FUCKING AMAZING
Storm In A Teacup 03.08.17	poor Daniel Bryan in the last few minutes of talking smack
rufinthefury 03.08.17	Miz was on fucking fire last night. best promo in the WWE right now
Minushuman24 03.08.17	Talking smack has no right being as amazing as it is
Storm In A Teacup 03.08.17	He was on a roll last night. His talking smack promo was even better than his smackdown promo. "I am disgusted with THAT" points at Cena I popped lol
Storm In A Teacup 03.08.17	Talking Smack is sometimes worth watching twice in a row.
bloc 03.08.17	"best promo in the WWE right now" Bruh the Uso's promo on American Alpha on SD on Feb 21
Minushuman24 03.08.17	The uso's promo was the most confusingly brilliant thing
Storm In A Teacup 03.08.17	god damnit bloc is right. usos don't need to complain like the miz does and they had more balls in their promo
bloc 03.08.17	I actually got chills when I watched it a second time. Fuck what a promo. Best I've heard in a looooooong time. I will rep it forever now.
bloc 03.08.17	Although to be fair, the Miz is one of the best talkers right now, if not the best. Not that he was ever bad but in the last few months he is killing it. It's like he actually believes in what he says.
rufinthefury 03.08.17	Usos promo was fucking awesome and i loved it, but Miz has been doing this CONSISTENTLY for how long now? He's always been good, but in the past 6 months he's been insane.
Storm In A Teacup 03.08.17	well he's talking shit on john cena so he better believe reality
Storm In A Teacup 03.08.17	"insane for 6 months" *7 months lol but yeah
Storm In A Teacup 03.08.17	ugh if Daniel bryan can recover enough that wwe would let him wrestle again then Miz vs Daniel Bryan in the main event of wrestlemania here we come
rufinthefury 03.08.17	Still waiting for Deke Stokes WWE debut.
JeetJeet 03.08.17	They really gotta stop putting Nattie in storylines. She's flat out horrible.
Spec 03.08.17	Gotta check smackdown asap. Raw is horrible besides the Owens Jericho thing.
Storm In A Teacup 03.08.17	almost nobody gives a fuck about Natalya lol
DinosaurJones 03.08.17	Jesus, Miz just slays every time he's on the mic.
Storm In A Teacup 03.08.17	I had the 1337 comment. Clap bitches. Clap clap bitches
rufinthefury 03.08.17	You double/triple/quadruple post all the time so it doesn't mean anything.
Storm In A Teacup 03.08.17	yes it does
Minushuman24 03.09.17	Trips sure does like his metalcore
DinosaurJones 03.09.17	It's usually Metalcore or Rap these days. And by these days, I mean for the past 15+ years. Though I still think that the WMX7 Rock/Austin promo vid using My Way is brilliant. Best use of a Limp Bizkit song ever.
Minushuman24 03.09.17	When I was a kid I thought it was the coolest thing ever
bloc 03.10.17	When LB performed Rollin at Wrestlemania dude
DinosaurJones 03.10.17	WWE made LB likeable for awhile. Hell, Fred Durst was even a special character in Smackdown: Just Bring It! Which was the worst Smackdown game, but for unrelated reasons.
bloc 03.10.17	Haha, man I love LB actually. But boy was it fun to kick Fred's ass in that game.
Storm In A Teacup 03.10.17	Limp Bizkits music only got better after being in WWE.
rufinthefury 03.11.17	got around to watching this week's NXT and HOO-BOY what a good main event. I feel so bad for TJP because he's so excellent in the ring but damn is he uncharismatic. He cut a decent promo that night, though. nothing amazing, but it wasn't terrible so that's better than usual for him.
Ovrot 03.11.17	why aren't you fools on this ROH action? boy just broke his shins in half with a moonsault
Storm In A Teacup 03.11.17	I used to get roh on my cable and watched it at like midnight or something every week a few years ago, but the only streaming place I have access to doesn't post ROH events. I love their talent they have though. Adam Cole was a favorite of mine. I unfortunately only have access to the online stuff he does usually with his friends the Dumb Bucks and the 'other' glorious one himself.
Storm In A Teacup 03.11.17	HOLY SHIT BALOR IS BAAACKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rufinthefury 03.12.17	Yeah he tweeted it not much of a surprise.
Storm In A Teacup 03.12.17	I saw the video of his return vs Chris Jericho is how I found out.
Storm In A Teacup 03.12.17	would love to see Finn Balor come back Monday and say he wants his rematch for the universal title at WrestleMania and gets inserted into Goldberg vs Lesnar. never gonna happen but I can dream
bloc 03.12.17	The mic skills need work, otherwise he is the whole package. Wouldn't be surprised if they put him in a Rollins type role (pre-injury), he would do well.
Storm In A Teacup 03.12.17	but rollins has sucked most of the time since he came back from that injury. they made him a reigns shill for a few episodes and I feel like that really hurt him. maybe a second comeback for rollins is what he needs and to do it at wrestlemania.
bloc 03.12.17	I do see the team of Balor and Rollins facing Owens and Joe eventually
Storm In A Teacup 03.12.17	oh god I usually hate 3vs3 or more matches that end in one pin but I would actually love to see Balor, Rollins, Jericho, and Zayn vs Owens, Joe, and Strowman
bloc 03.12.17	Yeah those dudes will all be together in some form or another.
Storm In A Teacup 03.13.17	you guys watch the full raw episode from March 31st 1997 with me!
DinosaurJones 03.13.17	They just did HHH, Owens & Joe vs Zayn, Balor and Jericho at a house show.
bloc 03.13.17	Whoa that's a pretty big match for a house show
DinosaurJones 03.13.17	It's probably for Balor and HHH to shake off the ring rust, but they had to know it would get out there, they can't keep anything a secret anymore.
bloc 03.13.17	Haha dude, WWE can't hide ANYTHING these days. I have no idea how some of their secrets even get leaked though. But alas, I can't help but click when I read "rumored long term plans for WWE title" haha And because I never watch a PPV live, I have to pay extra attention to avoid any wrestling related links (hell, even the fuckin thumbnails for Youtube vids can be spoilers).
DinosaurJones 03.13.17	Yeah, if I'm not watching a PPV live, I just stay off social media for the night.
rufinthefury 03.13.17	Know what, thinking back on 2016 my favorite feud of the entire year was definitely The Miz v Dolph Ziggler. I think that feud was almost perfect and it had me more entertained than anything else.
DinosaurJones 03.13.17	I really miss elimination matches. They really only pull them out at Survivor Series. I hate triple threats/fatal four ways. If they were battle royals, I would enjoy them so much more.
rufinthefury 03.13.17	I'm on the complete opposite side. I think elimination matches are generally pretty boring, although every now and again you get an awesome Ziggler @ Survivor Series moment. Triple Threats/Fatal Fourways are starting to become overdone but they're still my favorite match type because they feel so much more unpredictable and they generally last a long time. Battle Royals are the most boring thing ever imo, they're never long and never very good. Like 10 minutes max.
Storm In A Teacup 03.14.17	Dolph Ziggler's epic comeback with Sting of all people making the assist at Survivor Series tho 6/5
calmrose 03.14.17	that was fucking awesome
rufinthefury 03.14.17	The fact that it was meant for Roman Reigns so Ziggler got jack shit afterwards always annoys me
Storm In A Teacup 03.14.17	that would have been the perfect series ending moment for a show. just end it all right there. Ziggler and Sting get it done after Ziggler took everything from 4 wrestlers and three people running in.
Storm In A Teacup 03.14.17	also I didn't know why they did nothing with Ziggler after and now that you say that it makes perfect sense. just another reason I didn't need to hate Reigns since I can't hate him any more.
Minushuman24 03.14.17	This episode is garbage
Storm In A Teacup 03.14.17	yea haha I need to text my brother and save him the trouble of watching
rufinthefury 03.14.17	Yeah there's a whole lot of nothing happening. A lot of funny-bad though. They botched by playing Taker's bell during the Jinder match (no way that was meant to happen, nobody in the ring was prepared and the announcer's desk was scrambling) and then they actually said Roman and Taker are feuding over whose yard it is. Seeing HBK was cool though. Helped Roman look even more heelish. I'm excited for Roman to turn at Mania, but at the same time I'm going to miss hating on the guy just for being who he is.
Minushuman24 03.14.17	Strowman fucking OBLITERATING Reigns was the best part of this entire show so far
rufinthefury 03.14.17	lmao I even said "what if Mick tries to fire Steph and then she fires him instead?" and it looks like that's about to happen.
Storm In A Teacup 03.14.17	"same time I'm going to miss hating on the guy just for being who he is." explain shit stain
rufinthefury 03.14.17	I boo Roman as soon as I hear his theme song and every time he wins. It's nice to just hate on him. But as soon as he turns heel I'm going to start to like him, I guarantee it. And so will everyone else in the IWCs because dammit he's a fucking good wrestler and as long as he embraces who he is I'll like him more.
Minushuman24 03.14.17	You know, I don't really care for him as a heel as much as I thought I would. I just can't get over the damage they've done At least he can put on a good match with the right people, so there's that Oh and he has the worst fucking theme, i will boo him as long as he has that
rufinthefury 03.14.17	this ending promo is actually picking up lol
rufinthefury 03.14.17	@Minushuman24 it took a while to start to hate Roman's theme because we associated it with the Shield, it's gonna take a while to start not automatically hating it when Roman turns heel.
Minushuman24 03.14.17	yeah, I didn't watch WWE during the Shields run, so I missed when they were all awesome That end promo was actually pretty solid
rufinthefury 03.14.17	yeah fine ending to an otherwise completely average (meaning bad) RAW.
Minushuman24 03.14.17	All they need to do is put the title on Titus Oneil
Storm In A Teacup 03.14.17	hah
Storm In A Teacup 03.14.17	so Big Show is in the andre the giant battle royale. that really sucks that he wanted a singles match for his retirement and he's not getting it
Minushuman24 03.14.17	I saw a picture of him during that new day segment, and he just looks like the saddest thing
Minushuman24 03.14.17	It's honestly really shitty for the WWE to not give him a proper send off They could easily give him a solid mid card match against Strowman, a perfect passing of the torch and a most likely great match
Storm In A Teacup 03.14.17	wtf is going on with the Raw women's wrestlemania build?
Storm In A Teacup 03.15.17	I will never understand how the audience is supposed to find it believable that people like Shane McMahon arrive when the show is already on or even halfway over.
Storm In A Teacup 03.15.17	oh but it was so fucking awesome when he does get there. AJ just did a drive by assassination and took Randy Orton's punt to cap it off. holy shit
rufinthefury 03.15.17	I can't believe that coward Shane McMahon tried to escape by jumping through his car window
Storm In A Teacup 03.15.17	plus the fact he only wants to fight AJ when AJ's not around
rufinthefury 03.15.17	kayfabe was fucking DESTROYED by that segment too. Finlay breaking up a fight? way to expose the business!
Minushuman24 03.15.17	@ runinthefury WILL YOU STOP??
Storm In A Teacup 03.16.17	so does AJ win at Wrestlemania and immediately get to go to Raw? I hope
DinosaurJones 03.16.17	The build to this WM is abysmal. Which sucks, because all things considered, it was a pretty good year.
DinosaurJones 03.16.17	Also, I'm posting again just to get my 5000th comment.
anat 03.16.17	abysmal is strong, the builds to rollins/hhh, aj/shane and wyatt/orton are all good to great
DinosaurJones 03.16.17	I dunno man, maybe I'm just jaded. The only one of those I'm really invested in is Wyatt/Orton. Though I have to say that last SD did a couple favors in getting me hyped for Styles/Shane... I'm still iffy on that match as a whole.
Minushuman24 03.16.17	It was amazing year for wrestling, then it just shit all over itself
Minushuman24 03.16.17	http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2017/3/16/14947080/wwe-wrestlemania-34-main-event-roman-reigns-brock-lesnar MMM.
Storm In A Teacup 03.16.17	Bray Wyatt had better destroy Randy Orton and become a real face of fear. So far the build I would rank each feud Wyatt/Orton - 3.8/5 Styles/McMahon - 3.4/5 Cena/Miz - 2.8/5 Triple H/Rollins 2.5/5 (been waiting for this one too long, I don't care anymore) Reins/Undertaker 0/5 Braun Strowman 3/5* would be a 5/5 if it was Undertaker vs Braun, his actual build is a 1/5 after Fastlane, but Braun himself is a solid 4/5 Smackdown Women - 4.5/5 Raw Women - 2/5 Ambrose/Corbin - 4/5 Big Show - 2/5 Goldberg/Lesnar - 2.5/5 I get it, it should be a main event, I just don't care about Goldberg, and Lesnar has been lost in the shuffle since before he fought Dean Ambrose at mania. Heyman's recent shilling for WWE has made me lose all respect and interest in him as well. Only care now if Lesnar is beating someone up.
Storm In A Teacup 03.16.17	and of course KO Mania/Y2Jericho - 4.1/5
Storm In A Teacup 03.16.17	literally the only things hardcore fans care about on Raw is Jericho/Owens and wondering what Braun is gonna do.
Minushuman24 03.16.17	I'd put Miz/Cena feud over Shane/Aj personally
Storm In A Teacup 03.16.17	how can you when we all know the ending is Cena proposing to Nikki after the match?
Storm In A Teacup 03.16.17	which I actually think is a sign that Miz and Maryse will win hopefully. cenas gonna be all like "we go through hardships and this is just another hardship, will you go through all the hardships with me the rest of our lives" duh nuh nuh nuhhhhhh duh nuh nuh nuhhhhhhhhh
Minushuman24 03.16.17	Oh god That's going to happen isn't it
Storm In A Teacup 03.16.17	lol
Storm In A Teacup 03.16.17	I would not put it past Vince to have an on tv wedding for them too. Either a real wedding or the most unexpected Cena heel turn ever. Also the lamest.
Storm In A Teacup 03.16.17	they want to say that if they had that power back then how come Maryse is here now? it's because her husband has been putting up amazing promo after amazing promo and amazing feuds and now it's time for Cena to feed off that. Not just beat em, but use them to become the "IT" couple on wwe. kayfabe or not, cena is obviously a bottom feeding bad guy.
JeetJeet 03.16.17	Cory Graves has me dying every time I bother to watch Raw. I dunno whats going on in the Reigns/Taker feud, but I really hope its Taker's last WM. Also, here's to hoping The Bullet Club finally forms at WM. Its a pipe-dream but let's be real, they should have been formed by now.
Storm In A Teacup 03.16.17	The Club was invented by Vince McMahon but The Bullet Club wasn't. He likes his own creations.
JeetJeet 03.16.17	Well whatever they call it, I want it. I want Styles, Balor, Gallows, & Anderson fuckin shit up. Also, I think they handled Balors return poorly, but that's just me.
Storm In A Teacup 03.16.17	pretty sure he hasn't officially returned in their core canon. WWE does sometimes like those big moments on the small screen where they can choose to ignore it cuz they're going to just do it again and bigger and that will be the official first time aka Balor's big return hasn't happened
JeetJeet 03.16.17	Yea but that's dumb because everyone knows. Shit, it aint a secret. They put the shit on their YouTube channel. Why not just have him just show up one day unannounced? I'm hoping he goes right after Seth, but I doubt that'll happen.
Storm In A Teacup 03.16.17	haha miz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZo6JAYe750
Minushuman24 03.16.17	Man, the Miz is the greatest
anat 03.16.17	i always thought it was pronounced mizzah-nin
Storm In A Teacup 03.16.17	it is but that is his real name
anat 03.16.17	i know but in that vid he stresses it miZAHnin and i thought it was MIZanin
Storm In A Teacup 03.17.17	trying to get past the new aspects of Impact that are absolutely awful, I love the EC3, Alberto El Patron, Bobby Lashley triangle feud. Feels fresh as fuck.
DinosaurJones 03.17.17	I don't know if I even get the channel Impact is on... I'm willing to give it another go. But I don't even know how to watch it.
Minushuman24 03.17.17	I only caught Impact when it was Motor City Machine Guns/styles/samoa joe era and then the "New Monday night wars" era which was the most painful tv to watch
Storm In A Teacup 03.17.17	yeah that era was bad. The new tv intro for Impact features Samoa Joe and Aj Styles. I'm watching the x division match this week. Suicide has returned, they're trying to make it like the old x division matches, and there is a tooth in the middle of the ring.
anat 03.17.17	everyone needs to get on the southpaw regional wrestling videos on the WWE youtube channel stat
Storm In A Teacup 03.17.17	I can't believe no one has said anything about poor Paige yet. Too busy fapping you savages? I hope this doesn't ruin her career. It's probably going to improve Brad Maddox's career tho.
Storm In A Teacup 03.17.17	yes! Gallows as Tex Ferguson!
Storm In A Teacup 03.17.17	this is the best thing John Cena has ever done
DinosaurJones 03.17.17	Who's Brad Maddox? Also... yeah, uh... if she isn't fired, she's probably gonna be now.
JeetJeet 03.18.17	OH SHIT THAT WAS BRAD MADDOX GIVING PAIGE THAT WEAK ASS STROKE? WOAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
Storm In A Teacup 03.18.17	Brad Maddox was a part of the authority and then he just disappeared cuz he wasn't talented I guess. Not talented at fucking either I guess lol
Storm In A Teacup 03.18.17	holy shit the LAX stable just debuted on tna
DinosaurJones 03.18.17	Man, I was being facetious, lol, I remember Maddox. This is the thing he'll be remembered for now, though.
Storm In A Teacup 03.18.17	yeah lol. The Rock had just finished producing a movie about her family and it's supposed to come out soon. I wonder if Dwayne will reconsider. Hopefully not.
Minushuman24 03.18.17	what did paige do now?
Minushuman24 03.18.17	SPW > Raw
Storm In A Teacup 03.18.17	like 5 short sexual videos and 10 different photos.
Storm In A Teacup 03.18.17	from nxt days I think
Minushuman24 03.18.17	oh wooooow, that's insane Im reading something about Xavier Woods?!
Storm In A Teacup 03.18.17	yikes. Xavier Woods is married and still on Raw. The funny part is he's still on raw.
Storm In A Teacup 03.18.17	make that like ten videos. jesus
DinosaurJones 03.18.17	Gonna be an awkward RAW. Also, he tweeted out "It was chilly out that night" and then quickly deleted it.
Storm In A Teacup 03.18.17	I don't get it
Minushuman24 03.18.17	looool Oh Xavier, that's gold, but that is too soon
Storm In A Teacup 03.18.17	what's really funny is if you google Xavier woods one of the headlines under news is "Vince McMahon congratulates Xavier Woods"
Minushuman24 03.18.17	Brooklyn is going to go wild this monday when New day are out
Storm In A Teacup 03.18.17	oh wow I didn't know it was Brooklyn. hahahahahaha
kascetcadettt 03.18.17	do u wrestle storm
Storm In A Teacup 03.18.17	what lol
kascetcadettt 03.18.17	do u like to wrestle in tight pants
Storm In A Teacup 03.18.17	idk! haven't done it yet!
kascetcadettt 03.18.17	well u should and also join our Gay Faggotry Butt Licking Wrestling Circus (GFBLWC) while ur at it
Storm In A Teacup 03.18.17	is paige in it
kascetcadettt 03.18.17	is she gay?
Minushuman24 03.18.17	sounds like a great time
bloc 03.18.17	Best Raw I've seen in a while this week. Smackdown was solid as usual, that beatdown from AJ looked intense. Although they killed any kayfabe with that camera shot from inside the car in the replay ughhhhh And the Paige vids lol....started laughing when I heard her sex noises
Storm In A Teacup 03.18.17	she is a pleaser
DinosaurJones 03.20.17	I wonder how long WM will be this year... It was 7 hours last year, counting the 2 hour pre-show. Even without the pre-show, 5 hours is a hell of a long time to try and keep a live audience hyped.
bloc 03.20.17	I'm actually kinda excited now. I can't help it. Big Show and Shaq is cancelled. And that other cringeworthy tag team match with Cena and Miz might be decent, since the build up has been quite good so far.
bloc 03.20.17	https://youtu.be/1cLzywnNMcc Best promo ever?
DinosaurJones 03.20.17	I would watch that if I wasn't at work. TRANSCRIBE IT FOR ME.
bloc 03.20.17	It's Brad Maddox going nuts on his computer webcam. Based on the video upload date, I think it stems from the recent sex tape leak, but I am not sure.
DinosaurJones 03.20.17	Ah... shit, the dude is gonna have a career resurgence from those leaks. Because let's be honest, who's even thought about him since his release? I sure haven't. I wasn't even watching when he was around.
JeetJeet 03.20.17	Man fuck that I've been waiting for a Maddox comeback for a while now. Dude was entertaining in the weirdest way.
DinosaurJones 03.20.17	haha, really? Like I said, I wasn't watching when he was around, so I wouldn't know.
bloc 03.20.17	His recent run in the WWE was ok, but I know his potential was not fulfilled. He def has talent. That video I just posted, whether genuine or not, shows it imo. I was also reading some other wrestling forums and there are rumors about him maybe committing suicide, yikes
DinosaurJones 03.20.17	Oof, I hope that's not true. That's such a slippery slope. Like obviously they have the right to film themselves boning, etc. But they have to know that there's the possibility, no matter how small, that it might get out there.
DinosaurJones 03.20.17	Also, there's the fact that people are fucking terrible in general. Like yeah, the videos leaked. It's two people... er... in some cases, three people banging. it's normal human behavior. You know they're doing it, even if you don't see it. Like every post made by WWE social media has comments about the sex tapes now. It's like... all right, come on. Get over it, goddamn.
bloc 03.20.17	I agree, but what the WWE will do now is the big question everyone is asking. A lot of people are comparing this to the pics of Rollins that got leaked a while ago, but I think those were leaked purposely from an angry ex or some shit so it would make sense for nothing to happen to him. Also there are leaked Summer Rae nudes floating around now
BallsToTheWall 03.20.17	Holy shit!
DinosaurJones 03.20.17	Yeh... I mean, Paige has obviously been on the wrong side of a lot of WWE business for awhile now... Maddox is whatever. But Woods is part of one of the biggest and most over acts around. Guess we'll have to wait and see. Didn't know about that last part. When is the last time she was seen? Regardless, I expected Summer Rae to be released after WM due to the annual spring cleaning, but that just sucks for her.
bloc 03.20.17	Oh man I can't wait to see the crowd reaction for Woods when he shows up at Raw or WM. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if he's kept backstage on Raw. I keep hearing about Banks turning heel and teaming up with Rae after WM so who knows. Tbh, Rae is underrated as fuck. Maybe not wrestling wise, but she can def act decently. Remember that love fued with Ziggler and Rusev in 2015? Rae was literally the only person in that feud who didn't suck.
DinosaurJones 03.20.17	Aw, how could I forget about Ru-Ru? Yeah, I usually don't watch the weekly shows... but uh, I might watch tonight just to see if the New Day (mostly Woods) comes out and what kind of reaction they get.
rufinthefury 03.20.17	"Rae was literally the only person in that feud who didn't suck." wtf how can you literally name him and then forget about him? Rusev was hands down the best part of that feud. As far as all this Paige drama is concerned, man I'm curious as to what kinda reaction Xavier gets when he comes out next time. Maybe we find out tonight.
rufinthefury 03.20.17	btw, huge props to Southpaw Regional Wrestling. best original programming WWE has put out maybe ever
DinosaurJones 03.20.17	YES. I don't know what prompted that entire thing, but it's actually amazing.
bloc 03.20.17	True true, I was too focused on the women with that statement. Rusev does have this strange ability to turn shit into gold. There was this segment he did a couple of months ago with Titantron but I just cannot remember exactly what it was about. All I remember was the content was cringeworthy, yet he pulled it off somehow.
DinosaurJones 03.20.17	Rusev? You mean... Big Bartholomew?
bloc 03.20.17	Lol I have to check that shit out still
DinosaurJones 03.20.17	I'm glad Jericho was finally able to work Clint Bobski into WWE somehow.
rufinthefury 03.20.17	The Club using their old characters is 10/10 gold too
Minushuman24 03.20.17	did mad braddox go nuts?
Spec 03.20.17	Southpaw Regional Wrestling is one of the funniest things I've seen in a while. Major props to everybody involved. Also whoever leaked Paige's videos and pictures is a piece of shit.
Storm In A Teacup 03.20.17	raw hasn't started yet and there are reports of the Brooklyn crowd chanting "New Day fucks" "We want Paige" and "Give us Brad"
Minushuman24 03.21.17	We want paige chant during Charlotte v Dana
Storm In A Teacup 03.21.17	it was happening during Zayn vs Joe too but they were muffling the crowd a shit ton then
Storm In A Teacup 03.21.17	I love how Tex Ferguson sways in and out of sounding like his Fink impersonation.
anat 03.21.17	new day segment was deftly handled, well played link to their bit: https://streamable.com/a9vnm
Minushuman24 03.21.17	raw was meh
Storm In A Teacup 03.21.17	At least it wasn't a normal raw, which is worse than a meh raw.
Minushuman24 03.21.17	Fair.
Storm In A Teacup 03.21.17	tho I'm not really sure if anything was accomplished at all in the whole three hours when it comes to a wrestlemania build, except for Tamina being put in the womens championship, which everyone saw that coming anyway. Raw was a solid 2.5/5
DinosaurJones 03.21.17	So what's Foley gonna show up and do at WM? There's no way he's not there, right?
Storm In A Teacup 03.21.17	pretty sure they pulled the trigger last week on what they were planning with foley at mania. He's probably gone to get that hip surgery he's been needing.
rufinthefury 03.21.17	and then in comes Kurt to be the new GM weeee
DinosaurJones 03.21.17	And they rehash the creepy love triangle between Steph, HHH and Kurt to set up Angle vs HHH at next WM, so that HHH can squash Angle and feel good about himself. BOOK IT, DUNN-O
p4p 03.21.17	maaann steph is too hot
DinosaurJones 03.21.17	She really does look great. I think she looks the best she ever has. Her smile really is predatory though. Even when she's just doing promotional stuff where she's not in character.
Minushuman24 03.21.17	^^^That
SIIMBOLIC 03.21.17	yeah i kinda wanna bang her but im scared id get handcuffed and she'd get the strap on
Minushuman24 03.22.17	Mauro is gone again
SIIMBOLIC 03.22.17	good. The four man smackdown commentary team is stoopid
Storm In A Teacup 03.22.17	I'm pretty sure I had a 12+ week streak where Mauro fucked something up so bad I yelled "Damnit Mauro!" at least once per episode, including ppvs. His absence last week stopped the streak :=/
SIIMBOLIC 03.22.17	hes's away at his second job cleaning cocks
Storm In A Teacup 03.22.17	if he's as good with clocks as he is with remembering the names of on air talent then time is fucked
Storm In A Teacup 03.22.17	I hope Orlando throws trash in the crowd and boos when Cena fake proposes to Nikki.
DinosaurJones 03.22.17	How has Shane never learned to throw a decent looking punch? Also, his elbow drops are realllllly reaching. They're more like wrist drops these days.
Storm In A Teacup 03.22.17	:0
DinosaurJones 03.22.17	Shane vs Styles will still be better than Lesnar vs Goldberg though! How long do you think they'll give that match? Think it'll be a squash?
Storm In A Teacup 03.22.17	If Lesnar and Goldberg are last then it will be the standard twenty minute Mania main event. I expect three 20+ minute matches and three 15+ minute matches or I will be disappointed. I bet Ambrose and Corbin will be less than 15 minutes though.
Storm In A Teacup 03.22.17	holy shit! I just thought of something crazy! Roman and Undertaker destroy each other and it seems like Roman is going to win! the crowd is pissed! but then BRAUN!!!!!!!!!! Braun destroys both of them and the match ends with Undertaker and Reigns near death while Braun stands over them.
Storm In A Teacup 03.22.17	Braun should lose the Andre the Giant Battle Royale and be in a shitty mood. Destroy a few wrestlers after his loss. Then come out and do it dirty to Taker and Reigns.
DinosaurJones 03.22.17	So have it end in a no contest? ...ya know, I'd actually be okay with that. I've been really impressed with Strowman, he's improved a shit ton.
p4p 03.22.17	i love strowman, he's pretty funny when he's not on the ring. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFvqpveaBJ8&t=3534s
DinosaurJones 03.22.17	That's another reason he's awesome, he seems like a genuinely cool dude, but when he's in the ring, he's all business.
p4p 03.22.17	hell yea man. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9PRqV88VgU "i used to chop right in the nipples"
Storm In A Teacup 03.22.17	triple h did a shoot interview this week and he was talking about Strowman and he said he doesn't know what the plans for him at wrestlemania are but he knows what's on the other side of mania for strowman. He also said that early on Vince was throwing a fit over something braun kept doing that vince had talked to him about. Vince said to triple h "does this guy not get it, is he just not going to work out!". Triple H reminded him it was literally the guys 15th match in his whole career and vince immediately said that was a good point. lol but yeah Strowman's glass ceiling is Main eventing wrestlemania for sure as a hot heel
p4p 03.22.17	i haven't watch SDL, is it good? yknow WWE is pretty weird like i know the show is going to be shit but idk why i still watched it.
DinosaurJones 03.22.17	I'm glad they aren't backing down with Strowman. He's what they should have kept doing with Rusev a few years ago.
Storm In A Teacup 03.22.17	@p4p raw is awful but smackdown is always great. I'd say raw is usually a 2/5 and smackdown is usually a 4/5
Storm In A Teacup 03.22.17	still can't get over Southpaw Regional Wrestling. best promotion ever.
p4p 03.22.17	watching american alpha v usos rn. holy shit i haven't watch a good tag team match in a long ass time. the whole match is just smooth and fluid.
DinosaurJones 03.22.17	Man, I see them putting Fandango and Breeze in Southpaw and think "Holy shit, they're using them!" Then I watch SD and see John Cena & Nikki Bella vs. Fandango and "Breezy Bella," and I get sad again. Poor Breeze... stuff like this shows that Vince still has the final say, because HHH is/(was?) behind Breeze a lot.
Storm In A Teacup 03.22.17	"yeah but it was with Cena so Breezedango were elevated duh, dino" ugh. I was so mad when they used that excuse when Damien Sandow threw everything including (literally & seriously) the kitchen sink at him and Cena still went over on him. That day was one of the worst moments of Pro Wrestling of all time.
DinosaurJones 03.22.17	Haha, did people actually say that???
Storm In A Teacup 03.22.17	uhh yeah. WWE people and fans both did. They lashed out at those of us who were upset and made anyone who was mad about it out to be the bad guys, saying we just don't understand how things work. Fuck you!
Storm In A Teacup 03.22.17	That's why I hate Paul Heyman the last couple months cuz he's taken a hardline attitude about several things that are just plain wrong.
DinosaurJones 03.22.17	Getting squashed by Cena is an honor! You get the rub just from working with him! I STILL get mad about Cena's move setups, btw. It always made me mark out when people would interrupt his comeback sequence. Whether it was dodging one of the shoulder blocks, but especially when they would counter the spinout backdrop or whatever that is. He's been doing that for literally 10 years. I know it's a fake sport, but the fact that they make everyone out to be so dumb that they don't know it's coming always bothers me.
Storm In A Teacup 03.22.17	I can't talk about this anymore. It's too much bullshit. Fuck!
p4p 03.22.17	five moves of doom
p4p 03.22.17	also AJ should get a better card tbh. shane is like 50 and not even a wrestler. its gonna be a spotfest.
JigglyPDiddy 03.22.17	Lucha Underground***
DinosaurJones 03.22.17	Jiggly, they just put the first 2 season of Lucha Underground Netflix. I'm actually pretty pumped to check it out, because I don't get the channel it's on.
p4p 03.22.17	lucha is great yeah. also u guys should watch Will Ospreay v Ricochet NJPW match.
JeetJeet 03.22.17	Maryse is a better Nikki Bella than Nikki.
DinosaurJones 03.22.17	Tyler Breeze is a better Nikki Bella than Nikki. I honestly believe all the gold digger comments. She's not that much hotter than any of the other women on the roster, and she's by far a worse wrestler than most of them. She's a relic of a bygone era. I'm not saying she's old or anything, but in terms of character and skill, she's been passed by, and should not have such a spotlight anymore. But hey, she's dating Juan Cena!
rufinthefury 03.22.17	that's why she's not even in the Women's Title match despite it advertising every active competitor being in the match. "ugh. I was so mad when they used that excuse when Damien Sandow threw everything including (literally & seriously) the kitchen sink at him and Cena still went over on him. That day was one of the worst moments of Pro Wrestling of all time." that would only be a tragedy if Sandow wasnt utter dogshit. Don't believe me? Watch TNA. #fuckthatowl
Minushuman24 03.22.17	I feel like the Usos aren't even heels anymore, they are too amazing
rufinthefury 03.22.17	I'm telling ya, they're the contemporary blueprint for Roman. Stale as faces, same shit every time, kids love em, everyone else hates their guts. they always win, always going for or have the titles, commentary jerks them off, etc. Heel turn. Suddenly, they have personalities, they're cool, they're doing new shit in the ring that they haven't done before, and they're just all around better. Just do it to Roman. His cocky heel promo in NXT was great. Go with that.
Storm In A Teacup 03.22.17	USO's heel characters took a big hit with me last week when they're supposed to be bad dudes but they're chastising AJ Styles for doing something bad. WTF
Storm In A Teacup 03.22.17	"that's why she's not even in the Women's Title match despite it advertising every active competitor being in the match." yeah cuz all those women are going to have a bigger spotlight than Nikki at mania. lol yeah the fuck right.
Storm In A Teacup 03.22.17	"ugh. I was so mad when they used that excuse when Damien Sandow threw everything including (literally & seriously) the kitchen sink at him and Cena still went over on him. That day was one of the worst moments of Pro Wrestling of all time." "that would only be a tragedy if Sandow wasnt utter dogshit. Don't believe me? Watch TNA. #fuckthatowl" nah you're wrong. Using new material from a new gimmick in a new company to justify why someone who had been killing it in wwe every week for years doesn't even make sense. It doesn't come close to being a reason for why he didn't deserve a push back when all he did was perfect segments. He had already EARNED a big spot in wwe.
Storm In A Teacup 03.23.17	Paige should come out at mania while the new day are doing their hosting duties in the ring and hit Xavier with a steel chair and just walk back up the ramp
Storm In A Teacup 03.23.17	asuka and shinsuke are not as hot commercially as they were last year. fuck. that kind of sucks.
Storm In A Teacup 03.23.17	A cool thought I have is that Shinsuke should become the third time NXT champion and he should relinquish the title at Raw the very next night and join the roster as Kurt Angle's first hire. SHIIIIINSUKEEEEEE! and then bobby roode will actually start being entertaining by being the angry promo sneak attack, ric flairified heel he should be.
JeetJeet 03.23.17	The WWE squandered Nak's momentum. If we're being honest he should have been on SD by now. Just like how The Bullet Club should have been formed a while ago. Just like how Bobby Roode should have been shot straight to the main roster with a nice juicy storyline. I don't understand why this company squanders people's buzz and momentum. You have Naka-fuckin-mura and you put him on NXT? Goddammit. Meanwhile scrubs like Mojo, Curt Hawkins and Bo Dallas, guys who should have stayed in NXT are on the main roster. But that's just how I feel.
Storm In A Teacup 03.23.17	well you know, as they say, "you just don't get it"
Minushuman24 03.23.17	I am definitely less hyped on Shinsuke, which is upsetting, but I will pop so hard when he debuts I will never not be excited about Asuka, I think she should go undefeated and debut the night after Wrestlemania, and everyone shits themselves cause she's basically Brock
Storm In A Teacup 03.23.17	I want Brock vs Shinsuke II but every rough match he has at his age is another little bit of his sturdiness lost for a match with someone like Lesnar.
Minushuman24 03.23.17	god damn, that would be fantastic
Storm In A Teacup 03.23.17	Charlotte says her robe at Mania will represent every era of her dad's career.
Storm In A Teacup 03.23.17	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIfLIBI7xEA
Storm In A Teacup 03.23.17	Jim Ross' wife is dead from a car crash...
DinosaurJones 03.23.17	Yeah, that's super sad. They're not under any obligation to, but I hope WWE makes mention of it, he was such an important employee that it would be nice of them to offer their condolences.
DinosaurJones 03.23.17	Also, Ruby Riot finally showed up last night! NOW they're starting to rebuild the NXT women's division. Nikki Cross, Ruby Riot, Ember Moon. That's more like it!
Storm In A Teacup 03.23.17	pretty sure wrestlemania 33 this year is one of those outside wrestlemanias
Storm In A Teacup 03.23.17	it's so weird that Roman Reigns and Rosey are brothers. It's weird in general that Roman is part of the Rocks and Usos family.
DinosaurJones 03.23.17	I dunno, I think it's weird that Nia Jax and the Rock are cousins as well... So are Nia Jax and Roman related? What about Tamina? WHERE ARE ALL OF THE OTHER SAMOAN WRESTLERS THAT ARE NOT PART OF THIS FAMILY? IT'S CONSPIRACY. ILLUMINATI.
Storm In A Teacup 03.23.17	Yes Tamina, Roman, Nia Jax, Naomi, Rock, USOs are all related in one way or another
Storm In A Teacup 03.23.17	that brotherhood stable was crap. It would be cool if they had a heel Samoan family stable
DinosaurJones 03.23.17	What was the brotherhood stable again?
Storm In A Teacup 03.24.17	just realized how much wrestlemania 32 and 30 sucked. 31 was somehow much better in the long run. The weird thing about 31 is that there were only 8 matches on the whole show (Cesaro and Tyson kid defended the belts successfully on the pre-show) and the longest match was only 18 minutes (including pre-show). Run time aside, what we got out of the last three manias has not been good. 31 is somehow the best but those who were built up were basically lost. Daniel Bryan, AJ Lee, Seth Rollins and Paige. Bray Wyatt continued to be buried. Triple H had buried Sting. Rusev has never recovered. The Rock and Rousey went over on Triple H and Steph but that was just a one off and it would have been better for Sting to win. All that and it's still the best one of the last three years.
Storm In A Teacup 03.24.17	I think brotherhood was the Rhodes actually. I forget what Roman and The Usos called each other. They feuded with Billy Gun Road Dogg and Triple h. They may have feuded with the wyatts too
Storm In A Teacup 03.26.17	lol at jim cornette inducting the rock n roll express
Storm In A Teacup 03.30.17	my WM:33 predictions, this is the ultimate thrill ride, so I'm predicting some swerves Lesnar beats Goldberg in around 6-16 minutes depending on the story Bray Wyatt shows mystical powers and summons something like an Erik Rowan for the victory Kevin Owens destroyyyyyys Chris Jericho Seth Rollins beats Triple H after 4-6 (Zayn, Foley, Balor, Steph, Sting, Samoa Joe, Shawn Michaels, DX) people interfere Austin Aries beats Neville Matt and Jeff Hardy beat the Usos for the tag titles or DELETE the New Day or a mix of both The Club retain titles, thank god, hopefully, I'm okay with Cesaro and Sheamus winning but there are better stories with the club as champions Dean Ambrose retains title in a bloody match Sasha Banks wins title, heel turn, Dana Brooke takes out Charlotte, no one remembers that fourth girl except for her couple of dominate moments smackdown women: I have no idea. Alexa retains or Mickie James I guess there's going to be a couple surprise entrants and that's why Naomi came back on smackdown so there's not so many surprises, I guess Kelly Kelly returns Miz and Maryse beat Cena and Nikki, cuz they're both leaving, and imagine the Godly promo that Miz would give at Smackdown. Cena gives a speech about picking themselves back up and moving on and he wants to pick himself back up with Nikki everytime or some lame shit NIKKI, I LOVE YOU lol Not anywhere near as funny as seeing Michael Coles face after Jerry Lawler grabs his tie and smashes his face 50 times into glass, but still amusing Braun wins Andre the Giant battle royale and not enough people will care AJ styles DESTROYEESSSSS Shane McMahon in one of the longest matches of the night .... so... this is the big one so everyone thinks WWE will make "the biggest mistake" of its life and Roman defeats the Undertaker as a way towards being a face? idk, but I'm going to guess yes that's what happens. Since this year is the most dates Brock Lesnar will have since returning to WWE like five years ago, I imagine they are going to try to make Brock the most despicable heel of all time to make people cheer Roman.
Storm In A Teacup 03.30.17	trips and steph did a live tour of the whole mania access for people who can't go. here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQcxP2m0deg
DinosaurJones 03.30.17	There's no match for the SD tag titles. They're getting shit on and all shoved into the Andre battle royal.
Storm In A Teacup 03.30.17	=)
rufinthefury 03.30.17	@DJ is that confirmed? Aint seen a thing. Or are you just speculating
anat 03.30.17	it was announced on SD
Storm In A Teacup 03.30.17	Relax guys it'll be fine
rufinthefury 03.30.17	DAMN I didn't see that. Blows. Real shame that SD slowed way down right during Mania season. They've been on fire the whole rest of the year
anat 03.30.17	i'm glad there's no SD tag match tbh, it's a weak division character wise and there's no point hamfisting a match on an already stacked card time to start building breezango as a face team
Storm In A Teacup 03.30.17	It'll pick back up when the Hardy's debut on Smackdown and delete the Usos and Shinsuke! debuts.
calmrose 03.30.17	Hardy's are probably going to Raw
bloc 03.31.17	Weren't they gonna do SD tag champs vs. Raw tag champs? I heard that on Talking Smack
DinosaurJones 03.31.17	Breezango are actually pretty over. It's unfortunate that they're built as a comedy team. Also, finally getting into that Lucha Underground jam. It's pretty tight. It's also great seeing JoMo in the ring again.
Storm In A Teacup 03.31.17	I thought they were only over [b]because[/b] they were built as a comedy team??? Doesn't matter, I'm just excited that this WM has the potential to be the best ever.
Storm In A Teacup 03.31.17	Never mind don't relax guys. Seth Rollins has pneumonia and a 103.5 fever
Spec 04.01.17	Anyone watching the HOF ceremony?
JeetJeet 04.01.17	You guys doing anything for Mania? I got a buddy who's gonna be throwing a lil viewing party, but Idk if I'll go to it. Might just skip out on WM this year altogether and tune into the RAW on Monday instead. Also, you guys got any predictions on who's gonna debut on Monday? I feel like Nakamura might show up but who knows at this point.
bloc 04.01.17	Not me, I'm the only person I know of that watches wrestling lol. If I can't watch it live tomorrow, then I'll watch it in parts throughout the week. I don't want anymore debuts tbh for a while, the roster is already oversaturated. Way too many debuts in the past year with nothing for them to do
JeetJeet 04.01.17	If they have anymore debuts, I hope they'd end up on Smackdown. Raw is already stacked. SD needs more people. Maybe call up that group Eric Young is running with and place em on Smackdown.
p4p 04.01.17	#DIY needs to be on SDL.
Storm In A Teacup 04.01.17	I'm in the same boat as bloc, except I have my brother but he lives with my parents still. I have a friend who goes to indie wrestling shows every week and loves it but has never watched WWE. I may ask him if he wants to watch it. He was a big Kevin Steen fan and has no idea who Kevin Owens is.
Storm In A Teacup 04.01.17	"I don't want anymore debuts tbh for a while oh hahahahaha. bloc. man. there's about to be a shit ton of debuts over the next few months.
Storm In A Teacup 04.01.17	WWE's black Friday 2017 is really gonna be trimming the fat this time around
Storm In A Teacup 04.01.17	tbh first person who should be fired is Enzo Amore
Storm In A Teacup 04.01.17	agreed, storm. Enzo is trash.
Spec 04.01.17	Just make him a manager.
Maco097 04.01.17	Enzo Amore is by far the cringiest part of Raw all weeks, at least the New Day throws some amusing jokes from time to time and ofc, they know how to wrestle. But Enzo, he just repeats himself over and over. No need to say about his botches.
bloc 04.01.17	All he has are his mic skills, but yeah even the "My name..." intro promo has gotten really old, especially for tv viewers. It def still works if you're there watching Raw live in the stadium.
Storm In A Teacup 04.01.17	I really love this refreshing Sheamus face run. I want him and Cesaro to be the new APA but with a better, more title oriented, run.
Storm In A Teacup 04.01.17	Jim Ross is officially calling Golberg vs Lesnar and has been booked to call several Raws this year!!!!!!
Spec 04.01.17	Couldn't they put him on wrestlemania for longer than two minutes??
Storm In A Teacup 04.01.17	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kBmlDlBTqo
bloc 04.01.17	"Couldn't they put him on wrestlemania for longer than two minutes??" For real, why couldn't they get him to call the entire event? He alone would make any match more tolerable. He'd be amazing for the Undertaker match at least. Anyway, that Lesnar match is gonna be a few minutes tops.
Storm In A Teacup 04.01.17	it's all but confirmed it's going to be longer than a few minutes. vince has something up his sleeves
Spec 04.01.17	Lesnar Goldberg scheduled to go for eight minutes.
JeetJeet 04.01.17	Feeling like it could end up being worse than their infamous match.
Storm In A Teacup 04.01.17	you guys our lil wrestling community inside sputnik is going to die :'(
bloc 04.01.17	Yeah a 5 minute staredown and then a quick squash by Lesnar
calmrose 04.02.17	holy shit this triple threat tag match so far
calmrose 04.02.17	fucking awesome match, DIY and Revival are always gold together and both made AOP look strong
calmrose 04.02.17	well, another brilliant Takeover that will likely be better than the WWE ppv, tag match was MOTN but Roode and Nakamura was close behind, as well as Asuka and Moon, Nakamura no doubt debuts this week, hopefully on Smackdown because Raw is already stacked and a feud with AJ would be awesome
p4p 04.02.17	#DIY and Revival are sooo money altough the match outcome was kinda bullshit. stellar match though. Asuka v Moon feud was cool. the story progression is excellent. Roode and Nakamura was aight.
Storm In A Teacup 04.02.17	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQwaNYihe88 he hit him at the end with the D-Von prayer!
Storm In A Teacup 04.02.17	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCE6DMDlj6E Emma wants the D
rufinthefury 04.02.17	Takeover was fucking great. Tag Team match was handsdown MOTN and maybe MOTY.
p4p 04.02.17	ADAM COLE BAY BAY
bloc 04.02.17	Today is the reason for this epic thread. It all comes down to this.
DoubtGin 04.02.17	The huge amount of pandering in the last few years really hurt the quality of the shows, especially Wrestlemania. This should have been the culmination of the feuds yet it feels very shoehorned. The multi-man women matches and the ARMBAR seem to be excuses to get everyone on the show. Most of the main feuds also lack great storytelling (apart from Orton vs Bray and Jericho vs Owens which both went downhill in the last few weeks). Every major match is filled part-timers who will piss off soon anyways. I understand that they want Wrestlemania to be this big spectacle and suck up to sponsors etc, but the road to it was still quite awful. They are basically telling their wrestlers who work hard throughout the year (e.g. Ambrose) that they do not matter at all. This will bite them in the ass when those part-timers cannot go in the ring anymore (Taker and Goldberg are already close) and they have not built up anyone aside from Reigns.
BallsToTheWall 04.02.17	Aleister Black....what a match.
anat 04.02.17	time to predict: lesnar reigns wyatt rollins ambrose owens aj styles sasha banks miz/maryse becky lynch gallows/anderson austin aries strowman wins the armbar
Storm In A Teacup 04.02.17	I am in shock that Roman is supposedly main eventing tonight. This better not be true.
Storm In A Teacup 04.02.17	NXT takeover was a solid 4.5/5 for me. Love this new Aleister Black guy. Congrats to Drew Galloway signing with NXT. Triple H will know what to do.
Storm In A Teacup 04.02.17	NIKKI
Storm In A Teacup 04.02.17	I Love You?
rufinthefury 04.02.17	I make prediction sheets for everything. here's what I've got for this year: http://imgur.com/a/hSlTw
Minushuman24 04.02.17	Got back home from my road trip juuuust in time to catch Wrestlemania. Perfect.
Minushuman24 04.02.17	my predictions are: A Double BRAUUUUN Baron Corbin Naomi Seth AJ Bayley John and Nikki THE GOOD BROTHERS COMON Bork Bray Roman (sigh) KO (the real main event)
Storm In A Teacup 04.02.17	I finally realized what it is I don't like about Baron Corbin. His name. It sounds like a cheese.
Maco097 04.02.17	Great starting match, better than the shitty match Shane had with Undertaker last year. 8.4/10
Titan 04.03.17	Rob Gronkowski? Really? lol
Minushuman24 04.03.17	HOLY SHIT HARDYZ
calmrose 04.03.17	that was fucking awesome
Minushuman24 04.03.17	This Wrestlemania has been fantastic, I doubted it so hard
calmrose 04.03.17	the only match so far (on the main show) that has been meh for me has been the Raw women's match, which just felt rushed
JeetJeet 04.03.17	WM sounds lit. Did my boy Stroman win the Battle Royal?
Minushuman24 04.03.17	Nah Mojo did
Minushuman24 04.03.17	Luke, Sami or Braun could have really used it For me, the only bad match was the battle royal
JeetJeet 04.03.17	Lmaooooooooo
Maco097 04.03.17	Poor Sami he got wasted.
Maco097 04.03.17	Corbin vs Ambrose was also lame.
Minushuman24 04.03.17	those are like the worst years Corbin and Ambrose was pretty disappointing
Minushuman24 04.03.17	Wow, Bray vs Randy was shit....
anat 04.03.17	this should definitely be in the conversation for top 5 manias ever imo, the mixed tag was always about the proposal so it didn't bother me that much. more annoyed by orton vs bray with orton winning which is the only sour moment for me so far.
Maco097 04.03.17	Those 5 minutes of Lesnar vs Goldberg were exciting, way better than their last 2 matches.
p4p 04.03.17	holy shit just watched supercard of honor last night when the hardys defeated the young bucks and now they're on WWE. crazy.
anat 04.03.17	sad that undertaker has retired, sadder still that the main event was essentially roman beating up an old guy who can't go anymore. he should've just retired when brock beat him at WM30. that being said, this mania overdelivered for me. some stellar moments, a GOAT stage, but a few disappointing finishes. at the moment i'd say it's pretty much a top 5 mania.
kascetcadettt 04.03.17	lmao at 2009 bein the worst year, maybe the 2nd half but the 1st had amazing hbk/taker, cena/edge, hardy/edge, hardy/punk, jericho/mysterio feuds
kascetcadettt 04.03.17	hardy vs punk is my favorite feud of all time and taker vs punk had some great moments as well, the hell in a cell match was atmospheric as shits
calmrose 04.03.17	Pretty decent ppv, but for a Mania, definitely disappointing. Started off really well but ran out of steam towards the end. Some solid matches mixed in with pretty mediocre ones (both women's matches, mixed tag team, Goldberg/Lesnar, Taker/Reigns, Wyatt/Orton). Corbin/Ambrose was terrible also.
SteveOffProbation 04.03.17	"the hell in a cell match was atmospheric as shits" you just can't stop being an idiot lmao
kascetcadettt 04.03.17	torts you suck
kascetcadettt 04.03.17	fuckin redneck
Spec 04.03.17	What the fuck was the bray orton match?
Spec 04.03.17	Also Undertaker was the greatest of all time. Rip.
Maco097 04.03.17	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU5FPAR7ass
Snake. 04.03.17	hate to poop on everybody's party but i don't give two flying fucks about the hardy boyz it's basically all i'm seeing on my fb feed right now lmao fuck the wwe
anat 04.03.17	if you haven't seen what matt hardy has done for himself in the last year i can see why you'd not be interested but he's raised his stock a shit ton which is why it was such a huge moment
rufinthefury 04.03.17	Started so great and ended so bad
Storm In A Teacup 04.03.17	Orton/Bray and Taker/Reigns ruined everything. just gonna have to re-watch with the preshow and not watch those two matches and the Smackdown womens match too cuz it was boring as fuck. Take those three matches away, last night was awesome. I skipped the Cena proposal so I don't count that at all. It didn't happen as far as I know.
BallsToTheWall 04.03.17	They ruined Orton's turning on Wyatt weeks ago so i wasn't expecting much. Ambrose's Dirty Deeds on Corbin was pretty nice though.
rufinthefury 04.03.17	Best Mania in years, maybe a decade. But that ending was such a downer. THE HARDY'S ARE ON RAW THO AND WE ARE GUARANTEED CALL UPS BY TYE DILLINGER, SHINSUKE, AND MAYBE REVIVAL
p4p 04.03.17	naito v okada from last year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNfDQeS4UTQ
Minushuman24 04.04.17	HOLY FUCK THAT ROMAN OPENING SEGMENT
bloc 04.04.17	Honestly not a bad event at all. Waaaay better than the last few WMs. Yeah that Roman intro was sick. So was Rollins' intro. Pretty happy with the winners for the most part. Although I can't believe the Cena proposing rumor was fuckin true lol
Minushuman24 04.04.17	It was extremely front loaded that's for sure
bloc 04.04.17	I do think the order of the matches was all over the place
rufinthefury 04.04.17	I marked the fuck out last night for The Revival
JeetJeet 04.04.17	Last night's Raw reminded me of how WWE crowds are seriously the worst ever in any organization. Ali and Neville put on a clinic and these assholes did nothing but try to get themselves over. Chanting about beach balls and shit. In fact the worst part about Raw was how the crowd completely shat on an excellent show.
p4p 04.04.17	yeah the crowds were shitty like i can't even watch reigns segment cuz the crowd was chanting u suck and all that shit. i feel sorry for reigns.
p4p 04.04.17	i mean, its like they know better how to book a match, especially on a mainstream scale like WWE. this isn't ROH or Chikara ffs.
Minushuman24 04.04.17	Don't feel bad for Reigns, he had them in the palm of his hand, he did amazingly
Minushuman24 04.04.17	also SAY YEAH Best moment of the entire show
rufinthefury 04.04.17	fuck off y'all, crowd was the best part. Roman got what he deserved and the fans finally got to tell Vince he sucks to his face
Storm In A Teacup 04.04.17	some of you are way too impressionable
rufinthefury 04.04.17	btw I liked that they pushed Roman more heel here. I think he'll be tweener Reigns at best but that promo? best of his life.
JeetJeet 04.04.17	Man the crowd was ass. Like nowadays crowds like that don't cheer for shit unless its a return or some NXT scrub making a debut. If its neither then they'll just stay silent or try to get themselves over. I watched this dude Mustafa Ali pull off a springboard Spanish fly and got no reaction at all. Fuck that crowd lol.
JeetJeet 04.04.17	I'm actually kinda surprised Aries didn't win at WM tho. Could have sworn he'd be the new champ.
Storm In A Teacup 04.05.17	I mean it's common knowledge being a spot monkey isn't the key to the draw so not popping for one move is fine just shows maturity among the audience.
Storm In A Teacup 04.05.17	Agreed ruf that was Roman's best promo ever!
Storm In A Teacup 04.05.17	Lol at Triple Quad G O D putting over someone with a leg injury
MalleusMaleficarum 04.05.17	,link me to this roman promo
Minushuman24 04.05.17	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8s6PZ1Iwp4 This is the only version I could find, when in reality it was about 15 minutes long
p4p 04.05.17	saw it yesterday and i was like "damn this is too far" and kinda feel sorry for him.
p4p 04.05.17	yeah it was 15 minutes with roman just standing and people chants "go away" and "u suck" endlessly like wtf.
Minushuman24 04.05.17	not just that, they went with the "asssshooole" "Fuck you roman" and "Shut the fuck up" chants
p4p 04.05.17	like, his recent behavior isn't even meant to reflect a heel turn so that's not a good heat. getting booed is not even a good indicator for a heel since like idk prob Billy Graham, altough it is a good indicator that people don't like him as a face.
Storm In A Teacup 04.05.17	you guys lol "not just that, they went with the "asssshooole" "Fuck you roman" and "Shut the fuck up" chants" pretty common in wrestling lore. are you a lil kid? and you seem offended by the language. loosen up your cunts people =)
Minushuman24 04.05.17	woah now, friendo, I wasn't saying I was offended by it, I personally was loving it. I thought that entire 15 minute segment was brilliant, and the reaction I was expecting. I just think that Roman's 5 word promo was brilliant and that he played the crowd that entire segment. I loved all of it
rufinthefury 04.05.17	Smackdown was perfectly whelming last night. A lot of stuff I wanted to see happen happened, but not executed well.
p4p 04.05.17	its pretty weird for me. like does the crowd really booing him because they see him as a heel or is it because people just don't like him.
rufinthefury 04.05.17	they boo him because they dont like how he's booked. he's not x-pac yet, but you know after retiring the Undertaker he might become x-pac.
Minushuman24 04.05.17	I kinda just want him off my TV, tbh
BallsToTheWall 04.05.17	Kurt motherfuckin Angle!!!!!!!!
bloc 04.06.17	Opening segment with Roman vs the crowd was amazing, but I can't help but think Roman could've said just a bit more. He owned the crowd either way, but if he said something along the lines of, "the next time y'all (the crowd) wanna trespass onto my yard, you better ask permission first" the crowd would've gone nuts.
Minushuman24 04.06.17	man, I hope Aleister Black someday makes it to the NXT championship
Storm In A Teacup 04.06.17	I just want him off my tv (2)
BallsToTheWall 04.06.17	Aleister Black had a hell of a showing. NXT is coming near me on Friday, I might as well see what's up.
Storm In A Teacup 04.06.17	I know how to get Roman X-Pac heat. Let's say there is some kind of draft, a superstar shakeup if you will... And the Usos Hardys and Reigns find themselves all on the same show... and Reigns turns full heel by interfering for the Usos and costs the Hardys their tag titles
Storm In A Teacup 04.06.17	and then Matt Hardy vows to delete the Reign of Roman but Roman buries Matt Hardy and there is your X-Pac level heat
Storm In A Teacup 04.06.17	they're giving Brock Braun to bury so they gotta have someone for Reigns to bury until their stupid plan comes into fruition
Storm In A Teacup 04.06.17	I'm going to guess the two cocky heels who cut a promo before putting on the funny shock face treatment at being moved to the other show are Charlottte and Miz/Maryse.
Minushuman24 04.09.17	Shibata is fucking crazy
brainmelter 04.09.17	it's honestly astonishing that so many people actually are into wrestling
JeetJeet 04.09.17	Maaaan fuck JBL
p4p 04.09.17	what's up with bradshaw
bloc 04.09.17	"it's honestly astonishing that so many people actually are into wrestling" Not really, just 5 or 6 people constantly commenting on this thread lol
bloc 04.09.17	Yeah I've been hearing a lot of bad stuff about JBL recently. He's a pretty mean guy it seems
anat 04.09.17	wrestling is pretty sick tho
Minushuman24 04.09.17	Wrestling is the sickest also yeah, JBL is pretty shitty, fuck that guy
calmrose 04.09.17	read a rumor that AJ Styles may be heading to Raw in the superstar shake-up Balor Club??????
bloc 04.10.17	Just as long as they can still BEAT UP JOHN CENA
Storm In A Teacup 04.10.17	nah cena and nikki are gone thank god
mifzal 04.10.17	Roman Reign just sucks, He ain't no Rock
p4p 04.10.17	haha yeah. anyway, you guys should watch Sakura Genesis. i mean its no WWE PPV but its aight.
rufinthefury 04.11.17	Smackdown gutted af
anat 04.11.17	depends what happens tonight, but if SD gets KO, New Day, Cesaro, Rollins/Roman it could definitely all work out
Minushuman24 04.12.17	Smackdown recovered and I feel like I don't even need to see raw. EXCEPT FOR THAT BEAUTIFUL MAN BRAUN STROWMAN. THAT BEATDOWN WAS THE DUMBEST GREATEST THING EVER
rufinthefury 04.12.17	I marked out so fucking hard when Braun beat up Roman over and over. It was comedic as hell, AND THEN HE FLIPPED A GOD DAMN AMBULANCE OH MY GOD
Minushuman24 04.12.17	"IM NOT FINISHED WITH YOU YET"
Storm In A Teacup 04.12.17	"IM NOT FINISHED WITH YOU YET"
bloc 04.13.17	Did this nigga just flip over an ambulance
Minushuman24 04.13.17	You're god damned right he did
bloc 04.13.17	There's news about people thinking the attack was real and petitioning to fire Strowman lol
Minushuman24 04.13.17	The Kayfabe is strong in them
Storm In A Teacup 04.13.17	reminds me of when they killed Vince on air and Donald Trump called WWE's main offices to ask if Vince was dead or okay
Storm In A Teacup 04.13.17	is it weird knowing Trump is watching wrestling when we do?
Minushuman24 04.19.17	oh gross
Spec 04.19.17	IM NOT FINISHED WITH YOU YET
JeetJeet 04.19.17	Lmaooo @ Braun throwing Kalisto in the trash. And double lmaooo @ Jinder Mahal being #1 contender. I was dying when he won but tbh I'm all for it.
Storm In A Teacup 04.19.17	braun should have retired taker
Minushuman24 04.20.17	Braun is the fucking GOAT
Minushuman24 04.20.17	Jinder winning was the most confusing thing in the world, but fuck it, They're trying to do something with someone different, that's cool And the match was really great considering everyone in it were pretty much jobbbers
bloc 04.20.17	Lol Braun's reaction when Big Show body checked him was so out of character
Minushuman24 04.29.17	Fucking WWE Great Balls of Fire....
Storm In A Teacup 04.29.17	I loved Braun's reaction to Big Show checkin him. And oh my god Jinder Mahal is in possession of the WWE title. This is wrestling Armageddon.
bloc 04.29.17	Man I'd love if he won the title, he's not perfect but he is an excellent choice to spice things up (no pun intended)
Storm In A Teacup 04.29.17	Jinder Mahal vs Randy Orton vs Rusev WWE Title Money In The Bank
Minushuman24 04.30.17	that would be a very interesting match
Minushuman24 05.21.17	Friendship is Dead.
rufinthefury 05.21.17	Pete Dunn is my man. Takeover was excellent
Minushuman24 05.21.17	The UK match is prolly going to be match of the year, it was too damn good
Storm In A Teacup 05.21.17	Amazing Takeover. Tonight, lol.
Minushuman24 05.22.17	that Nak match was nooooot very good
calmrose 05.22.17	I thought the match was good, nice way to start the show
calmrose 05.22.17	well that was a pretty bullshit ending to an excellent match, still will be motn regardless and their re-match should be even better
Minushuman24 05.22.17	THE MODERN DAY MAHARAJA. JINDER HAS BEEN UNHINDERED
calmrose 05.22.17	holy fuck Randy dropped that guy straight on his head on the announce table and he knew it right away
Minushuman24 05.22.17	yeah he look like he cringed a bit
bloc 05.26.17	Yeah that was a bad landing and Randy knew it. But damn I am so proud Jinder won. Like fuckin finally a coloured man is holding a major WWE title.
bloc 05.26.17	And holy shit, the individual crowd reactions were fucking hilarious. And why is every upset WWE fan's first instinct to put his hands on his head??
Storm In A Teacup 05.26.17	THE MAHA RAJA!!!!!!!!!
Storm In A Teacup 05.26.17	this is bigger than when JBL got his main event push
Storm In A Teacup 05.26.17	crazier too
anat 05.26.17	I wasn't on board at first but now I'm totally digging jinder as champ
Minushuman24 05.26.17	Jinder is officially Unhindered All Hail the modern day MAHARAJA
DinosaurJones 06.16.17	Even though Joe vs. Lesnar is pretty much filler, I'm so into it.
Minushuman24 06.16.17	This is the most i've been into a feud in a very long time
Storm In A Teacup 06.16.17	loving Jinder and Joe being at the top of the card...the rest is trash 80% of the time though still
bloc 06.17.17	Joe is a damn good talker, I'm pretty impressed. Can we agree that Fashion Files is by far the best thing in WWE right now though?
Minushuman24 06.17.17	Fashion Files is amazing, I'm so happy they are actually going somewhere and Joes segment with Paul was one of my favorite segments ever
bloc 06.17.17	Loved that brawl with Joe and Brock too. Those are always epic. Wish it was longer though.
Spec 06.17.17	Hitting up WWE live tomorrow wooooooo
Minushuman24 06.17.17	ayyyyee
Spec 06.17.17	Gonna head downtown pretty quick here. Really hoping Matt and Jeff make an appearance.
Minushuman24 06.17.17	that would be amazing, let us know if anything awesome happens
Storm In A Teacup 06.18.17	wtf are the broken hardys
calmrose 06.19.17	well that was garbage
Maco097 06.19.17	lol
calmrose 06.19.17	lol Smackdown Creative 0-2 tonight with finishes, two great matches (women's match was too short though) ruined by garbage finishes, though the tag match ending makes sense, still disappointing
Spec 06.19.17	The live event was awesome. Mickey James really knows how to play to the crowd.
Storm In A Teacup 06.19.17	jesus mane
Minushuman24 06.19.17	Lana's ring gear tho
DinosaurJones 06.19.17	I didn't watch the PPV last night, but from what I hear, that was a solid call. I imagine the MitB matches themselves were pretty decent though, even if the endings sucked?
calmrose 06.19.17	the men's MitB match was awesome and the women's was okay/good (though felt way too short) but the ending just killed that match also, Kevin Owens is an absolute beast for the bumps he took in the match, holy shit
DinosaurJones 06.19.17	I'll probably end up checking them out, I just wasn't feeling hyped for the PPV at all.
calmrose 06.19.17	it was a decent PPV, aside from the men's MitB match, the rest of the matches were decent to okay, I liked the New Day/Usos match despite its sloppy moments and ending and Mahal/Orton was basically the same match as their first encounter (right down to the finish) but a bit better
Minushuman24 06.19.17	Yeah, I don't think I was a fan of any of the endings of any match imo the second least interesting person won the briefcase which suuuucks
DinosaurJones 06.19.17	And their Day One is still H.
Minushuman24 06.20.17	BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUN
bloc 06.20.17	Men's match was awesome for sure. And I agree the women's match was awesome too, but it did feel short. On another note, you guys hear about Bray cheating on his wife with Jojo lol
Minushuman24 06.20.17	yeahhhhhhh, really sucks for his kids and wife, but god damn JoJo
DinosaurJones 06.20.17	Damn, that was for real? I thought people were just trying to stir shit up. Also, I really hope Cass isn't going to get pushed to the moon now. I don't particularly care for him. I also hope that Enzo isn't just going to get future endeavor'd too.
Minushuman24 06.20.17	That segment went from extremely bad to actually really sad, they put a lot of emotion into it. But yeah, Cass is a bad wrestler, I think his ceiling is the IC title. Enzo is a huge merch pusher so I doubt they'd get rid of him, I think he's going to settle into the Santino character
DinosaurJones 06.20.17	If they're not gonna do much with him, they may as well put him in the Cruiserweight division. He's a strong character, even if he's not the best worker. And, well, most of the Cruiserweights are pretty generic.
bloc 06.20.17	He's not good in the ring, but he's great on the mic. Have him be a mouthpiece. Hell he could have a "manager feud" with Titus O'Neil over who gets Apollo. That would be pretty entertaining imo.
Minushuman24 06.20.17	He'd be a good hand in the CW division for sure, but I do love the idea of several factions on Raw, they just need to learn how to properly utilize them
Storm In A Teacup 06.21.17	more like Enzo Kick-a-me-a-more-eh XD
Storm In A Teacup 06.21.17	Braun's return was weak as fuck. He should have been trying to murder Roman!
ZombieParty 06.21.17	wwe is shit now r.i.p. wwf attitude era
Minushuman24 06.21.17	I mean it's not the greatest, but I love it unconditionally..... I guess I wished that the doors flew off the ambulance in Braun's return, it would have been the greatest of all time
bloc 06.26.17	Carmella on the mic, damn she killed it with her last promo. I am a fan now. Made it seem like she was genuinely frustrated.
JeetJeet 06.26.17	Breaking Enzo and Cass up was dumb as fuck. I'm not surprised tho. This is the same company that broke up the Wyatt Family for no real reason.
DinosaurJones 06.26.17	It's because Vince apparently has a boner for Cass, since he's 7 FEET TALL. AND YOU CAN'T... yeah, you get it. I find myself pretty unimpressed by him though.
bloc 06.26.17	He did just cut his promo ever though haha
DinosaurJones 06.26.17	If you mean his best promo, that's true, but it didn't have much competition. Plus Enzo really helped to sell that moment.
BallsToTheWall 06.26.17	I agree with bloc, that promo was fire. I want to see what they do with Elias.
bloc 06.26.17	Ah yeah, forget to add best. Agreed Enzo's reaction made it even more believable. It just goes to show that the promo receiver is just as important as the promo cutter (assuming the promo is between wrestlers and not to the crowd). Although Angle being there for the whole thing and THEN suddenly jumping in after the attack on Enzo was lame
DinosaurJones 06.26.17	That tear, though.
Storm In A Teacup 06.26.17	"It just goes to show that the promo receiver is just as important as the promo cutter (assuming the promo is between wrestlers and not to the crowd)" Which is half the reason people say the business was hurt by Shawn Michaels, John Cena, and Nipple H burying people.
Storm In A Teacup 06.26.17	Bloc the way Kurt acted made it seem more real to me. Loved that ending segment.
bloc 06.26.17	Maybe I will rewatch it then. Although I was pretty surprised to see the entire segment close off the episode. I was expecting another fatal 4 way with the top dudes or some shit afterwards. Yeah Storm that's something even I tend to overlook. Burying isn't about just getting the win over someone all the time but also nonreacting to their promos and segments.
DinosaurJones 06.26.17	For real. How are we supposed to believe in any sort of competition or intimidation if someone is laughing off promos?
calmrose 07.01.17	not WWE but holy fuck Okada vs Omega 2
Storm In A Teacup 07.01.17	I'm actually excited for Slammiversary and Great Balls of Fire lmao
Storm In A Teacup 07.01.17	if I see zero Jarrett's in that fucking ring, Slammiversary is an automatic 3.5/5 at minimum
Minushuman24 07.02.17	okada and omega 2 was pretty great, yeah for sure one of my favorites of the year, but still Dunne/Bate is the best
bloc 07.05.17	Good ass Enzo promo at the beginning of Raw and an even better shirt lol
OwMySnauze 07.05.17	That one match between Trump and CNN at wrestlemania is the best.
DinosaurJones 07.06.17	Damn, Enzo can cut a prime promo. Too bad I fully expect him to get squashed.
bloc 07.07.17	Yeah for sure he ain't winning. It just doesn't make sense for him to. Pumped for the Joe/Lesnar match. Their multiple encounters have been gold and that "unscripted" interview they had together was perfect.
bloc 07.07.17	Holy fuckin shit, that rap battle between Usos and New Day was fucking amazing. Best promo for the next 3 years. You got Uso's rated R line vs. New Day's total divas line damn I cannot pick. https://youtu.be/bQjUTeovVPA
Minushuman24 07.08.17	That rap battle was amazing, better than it had any right to be
Minushuman24 07.08.17	A Double has been released...
calmrose 07.08.17	apparently AJ Styles just won the US Championship at Raw's MSG live event
BallsToTheWall 07.08.17	Why'd he get cut?
bloc 07.08.17	I hear he asked for his release. I am not a huge fan tbh, but I think he'd do well in Lucha Underground or something.
Minushuman24 07.08.17	Oh shit, that's really cool that he won it there, I'm a huge mark for KO but I'm okay with AJ taking it I'll be sad to not have AA in the WWE anymore, he was fantastic and his music was awesome
JeetJeet 07.08.17	I'm glad he's gone. Dude deserved so much better. Fuck having him marginalized into a dead cruiserweight division that nobody cares about. Last time I saw Aries on WWE TV he was getting hoed by TJ fuckin Perkins. That's just wrong. Hope he finds a place where he gets used properly.
bloc 07.08.17	Should have fed him to Roman and then released him
DinosaurJones 07.10.17	Okay, so can we agree that Roman is full blown heel now? He tried to cold blood murder a dude last night. Also, Enzo delivering another great promo, only to get squashed. I was pretty pleased with the PPV last night. I also was only half-watching it, so I thought Alexa was legit injured since I hadn't seen what happened. That was actually quite the fake-out.
bloc 07.15.17	Enzo killed it with the promo. I also hear he has real heat backstage. Apparently he doesn't get along easily with people and the only reason why he hasn't been released is because HHH likes him. And I hear Cass has real heat because he's a Trump supporter lol. Roman is did great. And his segment on Raw with the GM and Brock was pretty tweener-ish. Hell, he even had the crowd cheering for him wtf. EDIT: Ok, nevermind that the whole segment was fuckin amazing. Brock stole the show. PPV was really good overall. I think it deserves more praise than what it's getting.
BallsToTheWall 07.15.17	I heard Roman kicked Enzo out the locker room.
Spec 07.15.17	He definitely kicked him off a bus haha.
BallsToTheWall 07.15.17	Maybe that's what I heard. Haha.
bloc 07.15.17	Yep heard the same shit. Also heard he was banned from changing in the locker room for a while.
Minushuman24 07.15.17	Da big dawg
Storm In A Teacup 07.16.17	you guys ready for Dixie Carter and Kurt Angle's son, Chad Gable? lol
bloc 07.16.17	IT WAS ME KURT IT WAS ME ALL ALONG
Storm In A Teacup 07.16.17	I want Chad Gable to be Kurt and Stephanies child that would be so funny
anat 07.18.17	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpgejlPd66o
DinosaurJones 07.18.17	So what was the reveal? I was seriously asleep at 7 PM last night.
anat 07.18.17	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srbE-LYPxxA
DinosaurJones 07.18.17	I can't youtubes, I'm at work. Would be so kind as to give me the Cliffs Notes version?
anat 07.18.17	Jason Jordan is Kurt Angle's son
DinosaurJones 07.18.17	WHAT A TWIST. Is Sharmell the mom?
anat 07.18.17	He just said it was someone he dated in college for a very brief time
bloc 07.18.17	I haven't watched yet, but I accidentally saw spoilers on the forum and holy shit I thought it was a joke at first. What the hell are the writers thinking? Even for their standards this is bad. I mean, it's 2017 and we're still pulling out a secret kid angle?? Ugh the "Dixie Carter as Angle's lover" angle sounds like a godsend now.
bloc 07.18.17	And now I hear they fuckin cancelled Talking Smack looool
DinosaurJones 07.18.17	It's such BS that they canceled Talking Smack. That was their most compelling product. Word on the sheets is that Vince vetoed it because it was helping to get people over on their own power and he/producers didn't have enough control over it because it wasn't scripted. FFS Vince... I think it's far past time to step down.
bloc 07.18.17	Wow that is seriously fucked up if true. Although I recall even Daniel Bryan would speak ill of the company on that show haha
BallsToTheWall 07.18.17	I want Chad Gable to be Kurt and Stephanies child that would be so funny (2) Seth and Dean had a nice little moment yesterday.
Storm In A Teacup 07.18.17	Daniel Bryan and Renee Young both found out it was cancelled from the internet. No one at WWE even told them.
Minushuman24 07.18.17	so.... Jason Jordon is Kurt's son..... hm.
Storm In A Teacup 07.19.17	Seriously, chop off Chad Gables hair, he looks like Kurt Angle
DinosaurJones 07.19.17	New swerve incoming: Chad Gable is ALSO Kurt Angle's son, from another unnamed woman that he had a short relationship with. So American Alpha were brothers all along! And yeah, Talking Smack was seriously the best content WWE was putting out. And they weren't even told it was shitcanned? That's messed up.
bloc 07.19.17	Got excited for a sec when I heard there were new Paige nudes. Turns out it was a tape from some other pornist.
DinosaurJones 07.19.17	There probably are more out there somewhere. She seemed very adventurous in her NXT days... Nowadays, she's being held under the iron fist of El Patron, though that relationship seems like a dumpster fire.
bloc 07.19.17	Yeah lots of stuff seems to be going down recently between the 2. I think it's to the point where people feel sorry for Paige and are starting to despise ADR. On another note, lol: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DE-sPQhUQAAc51r.jpg https://scontent-ort2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19959450_1416312348463684_2729980833974044982_n.jpg?oh=30387eeff587f52d9bf7fbc4117d0cf3&oe=5A04B746
DinosaurJones 07.19.17	Man, I just do not like Cass. Not in the "He's a heel, boo!" kind of way, just in the "I don't want to spend my time watching this dude in the ring" way. Also, he just looks awkward.
bloc 07.19.17	Yeah he badly needs to work on his physique
Minushuman24 07.19.17	He just looks like a tall guy. that's it, that's all EDIT: with really shitty facial hair
Storm In A Teacup 07.19.17	whiskers really lol
bloc 07.20.17	Vince gets high off the strangest people
JeetJeet 07.20.17	Heard Shane-o-Mac no sold a plane crash
bloc 07.20.17	Looool heard that too
Minushuman24 07.20.17	Shane o Mac and his zany stunts
Storm In A Teacup 07.21.17	Shane immediately after the Romon Reigns botch was so fucking scary
Minushuman24 07.21.17	Reminded me off Ezno and Cass vs the Vaudevillains
DinosaurJones 07.24.17	So, uh... the Great Khali is back. Hoo... hooray...
bloc 07.27.17	That was easily one of the worst PPVs I've seen from recent memory. I really sympathize with those that paid to watch it. The opening tag match was awesome, but damn it started to get worse with every event. As if the matches were bad enough, literally the outcome of each match just made things 10x worse and that includes having New Day win the titles in the tag match. I am reading insane heat online regarding this PPV and WWE as of late and it is certainly warranted. I also read BG 2017 is the worst rated major PPV of all time on Cagematch lol
DinosaurJones 07.27.17	I didn't watch it. I hear I made a wise decision.
bloc 07.27.17	Yeah good move. I just finished watching it last night. Raw is a joke with the Angle reveal and now Smackdown has fallen HARD due to this PPV. Where do you go now?
DinosaurJones 07.27.17	Mmm, I fall in and out of how much I keep up with it. I'll probably read recaps up until Summerslam and see if that piques my interest. If not, I'll wait until Survivor Series, which is usually at least pretty decent. I need to check out some of that NJPW action. I also need to figure out how I can watch season 3 of Lucha Underground, I don't get El Rey.
DoubtGin 07.27.17	NJPW's G1 Climax makes me hate what WWE is producing.
bloc 07.27.17	Yep I need to get on the NJPW train too For LU just check out watchwrestling.uno or one of its many variants. That is how I watch all of it.
DinosaurJones 07.27.17	Cool, I'll have to check it out. Season 2 of LU was kind of... not great, but Season 1 was rad.
calmrose 07.27.17	"NJPW's G1 Climax makes me hate what WWE is producing." This hard, NJPW is destroying WWE right now
Storm In A Teacup 07.28.17	i have barely watched wrestling. didn't watch tna after bound for glory. watched 2 raws and 2 smackdowns in the last 5 weeks. skipped battleground. no good reasons to watch i feel and assume. what i have seen is good but still not enough to keep me caring. sadly, think im done for a bit.
Minushuman24 07.29.17	I'm getting pretty burned out as well, just trying to catch pay per views whenever
Storm In A Teacup 07.29.17	the pay per views have been pretty terrible. i don't have much hope for summerslam
Minushuman24 07.29.17	They really have been. The flag match made me hate America
bloc 07.29.17	I am not sure why BG was soooo American for some reason. Obviously the flag match, but then there was New Day's outfit, KO's outfit, and of course Orton vs a non-American
DoubtGin 07.30.17	The concept is really outdated imo and I really dislike the narrative they are pushing with it ("America is the only great and free country in the world"), but I guess they went along with it due to the reactions it gets from the crowd ("USA" chants etc). It is easy heat material and has a fairly simple story, but it reduces their wrestlers to some awful stereotypes. Rusev in particular is way too good and likeable to only play that role. NJPW is much more believable and is usually more competitive both in their matches and their storylines. This G1 is a great example for that; every competitor in the tournament is pretty legit so every win seems believable. If WWE would pull off something similar and we would, for example, get Reigns vs Ziggler, we would already know the outcome and Ziggler winning would only happen due to interference, dq or sth like that.
Minushuman24 07.30.17	John Cena's promo on Smackdown before Battleground was one of my least favorite promos I have ever seen, I actually got angry. It was hollow, insencere bullshit that used real fucking tragedies to capitalize on their product, which to be fair, is very very American. NJPW is not scared to take huge risks and give wins to the smaller guys, like Karl Anderson making it to the finals in I think 2012. The only problem I have with NJPW is that they're a bit toooo liberal with the neck spots, as rad as they are
Storm In A Teacup 07.31.17	yeah that mother fucker really magnified his own personality with that promo. i text my brother before he saw it that cena used 9/11 in an attempt to get over and he skipped it thankfully. at least i saved one person from getting thrown up on through their display screen.
DinosaurJones 07.31.17	'MURICA
bloc 07.31.17	WWE is reporting record revenue this quarter but are budget cutting hard at the same time. Something's up.
DinosaurJones 07.31.17	Record Revenue + Budget Cutting? Vince is gonna try and buy out the other companies again.
bloc 07.31.17	I think the revenue doesn't mean shit if profits are down, which of course, they did not report.
DinosaurJones 07.31.17	I would believe profits are down. Their product is not exactly compelling right now.
Minushuman24 07.31.17	Yeah, there is no way that they are at their peak profit
Storm In A Teacup 08.23.17	they are always trying to pull some psychological bullshit, the indies are on the rise and it's exciting. just imagine when Daniel Bryan and Cody face each other in a year from now
DinosaurJones 08.23.17	GLORIOUS
bloc 08.23.17	SS was pretty solid for the most part, although long as hell. I gotta say some of the winners were quite puzzling and unexpected, although it was still nice to see titles change hands. Clearly the worst match was Big Ass and Big Show, but that was expected. Dunno wtf was happened with the Rusev and Orton match though. Rusev is amazing, and I thought him returning would be the start of his push but first he gets buried by Cena in a fuckin flag match and now Orton in less than 1 minute ffs. And Corbin? Jesus what a fall from grace. I think the pre-show matches were better than some of the matches on the card too. Highlight was def the fatal 4 way though, that match was incredible.
Minushuman24 08.23.17	NXT destroyed SS. NO ONE IS READY FOR ASUKAAAAA
bloc 08.23.17	She has one long ass title reign. Yeah NXT was impressive. I am surprised many of the entrances were waaaaaay more high budget than the any of the entrances on SS
Spec 08.23.17	Takeover blew Summerslam out of the water. My gf and I found Summerslam pretty boring other than the fatal four way which was outstanding.
Storm In A Teacup 08.24.17	too bad asuka will have the title stripped
BallsToTheWall 08.24.17	Of course it did. NXT's more flexible with it's move sets.
Storm In A Teacup 08.24.17	definitely interested to see the new repackaged Dolph Ziggler next week. hopefully it will involve a push....probably not :(
Maco097 08.24.17	Once again a terrible Summerslam
Minushuman24 08.24.17	I don't think it was a terrrrrrible summerslam, the fatal 4-way was one of the best main roster matches of the year and the tag matches were phenominal. I do wish that they let KO and AJ put on the classic I know they can. NXT was just nearly flawless though. I find it hard to get excited about Dolph anymore, he's talented and all, but I kinda just want him off my screen
Storm In A Teacup 08.24.17	especially when he started doing fox news and talking negatively about "millennials". I haven't cared about him since. That Survivor Series though....will always be one of WWE's greatest moments.
DinosaurJones 08.24.17	Not that I would ever be HAPPY someone is injured, but... I am somewhat glad Big Cass will not be on my TV screen for the next 9 months or so. To counteract that, I am very sad that Asuka is injured.
Storm In A Teacup 08.24.17	Asuka needs to go to Raw in a couple months and stay undefeated.
bloc 08.24.17	That is some reeaaalll bad timing for Cass, and I do feel bad for him. I'm kinda warming up to him tbh. He cut a great promo before SS where he was feeding off the crowsd. I like to think he has some self awareness that his current feud is stupid and no one likes it. Lots of badly timed injuries as of late yeah. Don't forget The Revival too. I also like how Jordan has been losing matches now. I am hoping him asking for a favour to face Balor and then losing is the turning point to going heel.
Minushuman24 08.26.17	I just don't think Cass is talented, He reminds me of previous big guys like Snitsky or Nathan Jones. I think he needed Enzo just as much as Enzo needed him. That being said I'm glag Enzo is in the cruiserweight division, and it may bring eyes over there. The Revival being injured all the time is truly heartbreaking though and Asuka relinquishing is also heartbreaking, I really doubt they'll handle her well on the main show, I want her to never lose
bloc 08.27.17	Yeah moving him is a really good move. But now that Neville has the title back, I just think it's laughable that he could be a serious contender to the champion. A cool storyline would be if he starts to manage his own faction to compete with Titus Worldwiiiieeeeeddddeee I don't think she will be a good fit on the main roster tbh, as much as I like her. The language barrier is a big issue.
Storm In A Teacup 08.28.17	gonna be disappointed if Breezango don't use swish swish or look what you made me do as source material for one of their next segments Tyler Breeze dressed up as a lesbian basketball katy perry is trying to jog and drink coffee but bumps into Fandango who accidentally drops his donut into Tylers coffee, and Fandango is like, "look what you made me do"
DinosaurJones 08.30.17	Boy, do I just not care about Cena vs. Reigns. Though the promo was pretty funny.
bloc 08.30.17	I have't watched Raw in full yet, but I heard the Cena promo was vicious and had many wondering whether it was a shoot or not. I don't think the Cena/Reigns match is official yet, but shit they need to hold that off until Wrestlemania. They can take their time with that one and really build it up so that it's fuckin money. I know Braun/Brock is fuckin money too, but having that match on No Mercy is way too soon. That is a Wrestlemania tier match as well. It appears that they're saving Brock/Reigns for that PPV.
DinosaurJones 08.30.17	Cena vs Reigns is official. They signed a contract on Raw. The promo was pretty legit, but it wasn't a shoot. Well, I guess it was a worked shoot, to be specific. Still though, some of the stuff said was pretty damn vicious, for sure. No Mercy is set to be Lesnar's last match for the year, I believe. So... I kind of hope he loses? And I think Cena is done for awhile again after No Mercy as well, since he's going to do a movie.
bloc 08.30.17	True. Cena can lose, that's fine. But with him disappearing I am not sure who will be his opponent for WM then. And I dunno, who will take the win for Braun and Brock. Because if Braun wins, he's the new champion, no? Where does that leave Brock? And having Brock win doesn't make sense at all, since no one wants to see Braun lose and he was manhandling the fuck out of everyone at SS anyway.
bloc 08.31.17	So Raw was actually really good. I am surprised they ended the show with the women's segment and put the Cena/Reigns thing in the center. Might have been a way to get more viewers at the halfway point of the show. Anyway, Reigns actually did a really good job with his promo, despite forgetting a line. Perhaps the best he's ever done. He didn't get buried as much by Cena as I thought he would so that's a good thing as I actually do like both Cena and Reigns.
DinosaurJones 08.31.17	I don't really have high hopes for the match though. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised. Cena is pretty decent, but Reigns is... not. Take away the Superman Punch and that's like 25% of his match gone already.
bloc 08.31.17	Given the whole segment, I'm even more excited about it. Especially who will go over. In the past couple of years, Cena has been having REALLY REALLY good matches, no matter who he is paired up with (stupid match stipulations aside). Reigns is a little less consistent, though his matches with Strowman were all gold.
DinosaurJones 08.31.17	Yeah, I gotta say Cena usually delivers.
Storm In A Teacup 08.31.17	the cena/reigns promo was the lamest/worst things ive ever seen
DinosaurJones 08.31.17	Oh Storm, you're so cynical, lol.
bloc 08.31.17	Such a smark
Minushuman24 09.25.17	So No Mercy didn't go so well
anat 09.25.17	i'm mad that they don't seem to see how much of a star braun strowman is, should've put the title on him
Storm In A Teacup 09.25.17	not a smark and that term is redundant. it just happens that i don't like the things i don't find enjoyable. who knew?
Minushuman24 09.26.17	I am so over this fucking Bray/Finn feud
DinosaurJones 09.26.17	wtf are they doing with Enzo? Are they literally trying to destroy his career?
Minushuman24 09.26.17	They're trying to make his actual life hell while using his popularity to boost ratings Two birds, ones stone I guess?
bloc 09.27.17	Ugh the Strowman/Lesnar match was so anticlimactic. Everything else on the card was really solid imo. And holy fuck poor Cesaro. He easily gets MVP status. That tag team match was easily the best on the PPV.
DinosaurJones 09.27.17	I wonder if they're going to let Neville out of the Cruiserweight purgatory... He's too good to be stuck there, honestly. He's been killing it ever since his heel turn, though he's probably a face now.
bloc 09.28.17	Raw was killer on Monday. Easily the best show in a while. Soooo many good segments.
Minushuman24 09.28.17	205 Live is on fire right now, I'm loving it and Raw was real good yeah
bloc 09.28.17	Even I am looking forward to watching 205 now. They made Enzo champ in hopes to increase viewership and guess what? It's fuckin working. Smartest thing they did all year.
Minushuman24 10.09.17	Jesus Christ, Hell in a Cell ruled
Realm 10.09.17	Jinder mahal has been owning so hard. Also his intro the best thing ever.
Realm 10.09.17	Was gonna watch the ppv today but we had to cancel :(
calmrose 10.09.17	both Hell in a Cell matches were insane hopefully they don't screw up Zayn and Owens together
DinosaurJones 10.10.17	It's been one night and they're already overdoing the Shield.
Minushuman24 10.10.17	them pounding the whole "HAHA ITS A FALSE RUMOR THAT THE SHIELD IS COMING BACK, LET ME DO A THING MAKING FUN OF IT" by the Miz took a lot of the excitement out of me for it
DinosaurJones 10.10.17	Yeah, I feel like a Shield reunion is a good idea, and yeah, it was going to happen eventually... but they did a very poor job of it. The pop would have been monumental (in theory) if Miz had been interrupted by SIERRA, HOTEL, etc., rather than Reigns on his own.
Storm In A Teacup 10.10.17	Fuck wwe lol, lame shit
bloc 10.11.17	God damn that last match in the PPV was insane. Long as fuck too. Really good PPV overall, and def one of the better Smackdown PPVs of the year. And i am not surprised the Jinder vs. Naka match was the weakest on the card imo. Y'all see the camera pan to Shane's kids smiling while their dad was getting his ass kicked at the beginning of the match lol
calmrose 10.11.17	"Yeah, I feel like a Shield reunion is a good idea, and yeah, it was going to happen eventually... but they did a very poor job of it. The pop would have been monumental (in theory) if Miz had been interrupted by SIERRA, HOTEL, etc., rather than Reigns on his own." this hard and then the camera pans to them coming through the crowd, would have been dope
hasan 10.11.17	wrestle WWE i want it the new game to play it on my xbox haha
DinosaurJones 10.19.17	Seems like Neville walked. I'm both sad and okay with it.
bloc 10.19.17	Really sad to hear, he was becoming one of my favourites. If he was on the main roster, he could have had an amazing program with Balor for example. However, he will be much better used in the indies. Like, imagine him in Japan. There's a rumor that Nia Jax has also walked?
DinosaurJones 10.19.17	Yeah, I've been reading that as well. So far it seems she's been granted time off for "personal reasons." Dunno if that means she's walked and is sitting out her contract or something else is going on.
bloc 10.22.17	Yo wtf the Shield match just got changed to Ambrose, Rollins, and Kurt Angle?? And now Balor is facing AJ Styles wow. Apparently Reigns and Wyatt are suffering from the mumps. It's been spreading around the company.
Storm In A Teacup 10.22.17	too bad kurt didn't get a good storyline for coming back.
bloc 10.22.17	Yeah they are losing a LOT of money without a decent build up for him. I wouldn't be surprised if he gets beaten down backstage during the PPV and Jason Jordan takes his place lol. That way they can still do the build up for the near future. Crowd would be furious however.
SIIMBOLIC 10.22.17	It's good in the sense it makes up for the lack of a proper shield mreunion match
bloc 10.22.17	The fact that the Wyatt match has been changed to Styles vs. Balor is a godsend
Minushuman24 10.22.17	Heading to TLC tonight, Hopefully it will be a good one
DinosaurJones 10.23.17	I was at a show last night, but I'll probably watch TLC tonight.
Minushuman24 10.23.17	It was pretty great!
Realm 10.24.17	Loved it. Old man Angle was great.
DinosaurJones 10.24.17	It was pretty decent. I don't think that main event had to be an hour though, especially considering how weak the undercard was. Still, when Angle came back out, that was a pretty awesome moment. Also, Raw's ending was pretty cool. Hopefully the buildup to Survivor Series is good.
bloc 10.24.17	I thought TLC was awesome. Every single match was solid. If memory serves me correctly, this is one of the stronger PPVs of the year. Crowd looked hot too, so it must've been a lot of fun to be in the building.
DinosaurJones 10.24.17	I wasn't that invested in it, but that just might have been a personal thing. I kind of wavered on my attention.
bloc 10.24.17	The headlining match was like 40+ min, yet I didn't feel the length. The garbage truck gimmick was a nice surprise plus the line of falling chairs onto Strowman. Hell, I didn't even think the heels would eventually turn on each other, allowing the Shield to win. Angle did a great job too. Offense looked good but just as importantly he took some decent bumps. He ain't no Roman in that riot gear though, that's for sure lol
DinosaurJones 10.24.17	Kane pulling down the chairs on Strowman was pretty awesome, I was not expecting that. And yeah, Angle coming back out and destroying Sheamus and Cesaro was pretty rad, probably because he actually had that intense "wrestling machine" look on. And the triple powerbomb on Miz looked pretty brutal, to be honest.
WetHarmonica1916 10.24.17	TLC was great until that clusterfuck of a main event. Seriously, that may of been the worst TLC match I've ever seen. But Balor/ Styles was absolutely stellar as far as I'm concerned. Their are people I've seen online say that it was "Underwhelming." BULLSHIT. Those two put on a fantastic match especially with less than two days to put it together. As for the rest of the card.... Enzo as Cruiserweight champ is just a fucking joke and a disgrace to any previous light weights like Liger and Malenko. Mickie vs Alexa was fun. Its ridiculous how athletic Cedric Alexander is, give that fucker the belt not Enzo. Jason Jordan is a modern day Rocky Malvia in terms of the fans can see through his smiling bullshit. and Asuka is awesome..... DON'T FUCK HER UP VINCE.
DinosaurJones 10.24.17	Yeah, Balor vs Styles was great. AJ flew in from like Africa or some shit, so he was probably jetlagged as hell and had to put that match together on the fly.
bloc 10.24.17	Dude Enzo is fuckin money as the champ, especially as a heel. The title HAD to go back to him. I also agree that Cendric has potential to be a top face of not only 205, but also the main roster. Balor / Styles acknowledging each other at the end really completed the match for me. If Styles simply walked away holding his sides or whatever, it would have been very disappointing. Crowd loved it too. Anyone kinda surprised that the Asuka match wasn't a squash? She actually had a lengthy match with Emma who showed some serious offense. The match was amazing, but with Emma's booking and Asuka being a monster, I would have expected the match to be very one sided.
DinosaurJones 10.24.17	Can't have the newbie looking too dominant, even if she just got off a 500+ day title streak in NXT. NXT is the Minor Leagues, RAW is the BIG LEAGUES, BABAY.
bloc 10.24.17	Haha true. It's funnier because at the same time, when some some indie darling debuts on NXT he loses his first match too lol
WetHarmonica1916 10.24.17	I thought Asukas debut was nearly perfect. She got to show off for the people on the main roster that may of not seen her in NXT, and I thought Emma was the perfect opponent for her. They both worked really well together.
Realm 10.24.17	Asuka is bae
Realm 10.24.17	Asuka is bae
WetHarmonica1916 10.24.17	Becky Lynch & AJ Lee >>>
DinosaurJones 10.24.17	Becky >>>>
WetHarmonica1916 10.24.17	Am I the only one who thought that Kurt looked like he was hurting through the whole TLC Match? Like he's easily in my top 6 of all time, but I feel like the dude should stay retired after that match.
DinosaurJones 10.24.17	He looked stiff. Honestly, not unlike how the Undertaker looked in his last couple of matches. He had those few quick short bursts, but I really doubt he can go like he used to. Hard to say though.
bloc 10.24.17	Gotta agree about Kurt, he def looked stiff. At least he was protected for most of the match. Either by using a chair as offense or disappearing for most of the match. Also Asuka vs Emma could be a legitimate feud as they do work really well together. Make Emma a monster heel and it would be awesome. All hoes mentioned above are hot, cannot rank them.
Storm In A Teacup 10.24.17	Shane vs Kurt II - Survivor Series, book it
Storm In A Teacup 10.24.17	kurt was having amazing matches less than two years ago so i doubt he's needing to retire. he could have many more matches of great quality
DinosaurJones 10.24.17	In that case... I wonder who his WM opponent will be.
bloc 10.24.17	I really hope it is Jason Jordan, but they build him up first so he's actually a worthy opponent.
WetHarmonica1916 10.24.17	"All hoes mentioned above are hot." XD
bloc 10.24.17	Good call on AJ Lee though, good god was she ever attractive.
Storm In A Teacup 10.24.17	yeah cm punk is still the unbeaten champ with that one
BallsToTheWall 10.24.17	Shane vs Kurt II - Survivor Series, book it (2) More glass, more suplexes, more blood.
Minushuman24 10.24.17	Asuka is forever the best girl
Minushuman24 10.24.17	Did the entire smackdown lockeroom just turn heel
DinosaurJones 10.24.17	I hope not, because if that's the case that means Raw will probably win. Which would probably happen anyways, because Raw is the A-show, and Smackdown is the B-show. Never will the balance be disrupted.
bloc 10.24.17	I will always remember those few weeks right after the brand split when Smackdown was clearly the better show
WetHarmonica1916 10.24.17	If I had to predict, id say Team Raw is gonna be Kurt, Shield, and Finn. and Team SD is Shane, New Day, and Styles.
WetHarmonica1916 10.25.17	Just realized Ambrose and Rollins are facing Usos at the PPV, Nevermind ^ lol
bloc 10.25.17	Dude that could be a godly match
DinosaurJones 10.25.17	Will probably be better than Lesnar/Mahal... and also Miz/Corbin. Bliss/Natalya could be good though. So many heel/heel matches. When did Survivor Series turn into Bragging Rights?
bloc 10.25.17	Haha yeah, it goes to show the imbalance in the number of heels and faces in the company too.
WetHarmonica1916 10.25.17	Usos have been fucking great these past two years. Turning heel for definitely the best for them.
bloc 10.30.17	Emma, Summer Rae, and Darren Young all released from their WWE contracts what
DinosaurJones 10.30.17	Emma was a surprise. D-Young was somewhat of a surprise, since even though they haven't done anything with him in pretty much ever, I believe he was their only openly gay performer. Summer Rae... I mean, her last match was over a year ago. Apparently she's been medically cleared for awhile now, but there was just nothing for her, which is kind of a shame.
bloc 10.30.17	Emma was the only fucked up one imo. She has not one but two competitive matches against Asuka and then she gets released a couple of weeks later? I think there's more to that release than meets the eye.
DinosaurJones 10.30.17	Agreed. She was actually being utilized. It appears she didn't ask for her release either, so it's not like she wanted to walk like Neville.
Storm In A Teacup 10.30.17	wtf that is not cool firing Emma! wtf! Now how are we supposed to get the trio stable of Emma, Billy Kay, and the Goddess Peyton Royce?
Storm In A Teacup 10.30.17	it would be such a good angle to release someone this way though and bring them back immediately for a new story. i know it's been done...but it's always done unrealistically...this would be the way to do it
DinosaurJones 11.05.17	So... Kenny Omega vs Chris Jericho at Wrestle Kingdom 12.
calmrose 11.05.17	hype
DinosaurJones 11.05.17	For real!
bloc 11.06.17	Lol I wonder what WWE thinks of that
Storm In A Teacup 11.06.17	who gaf ish is awesome
WetHarmonica1916 11.06.17	Jericho vs Omega is gonna kick ass, but I'm not gonna set my expectations "too" high.
DinosaurJones 11.06.17	I think they'll deliver. Jericho can still go, and well, it's Kenny Omega. I'm glad it's happening now though, since who knows how long Jericho really has left.
WetHarmonica1916 11.06.17	Jericho as a promo/ character has stayed consistently great, as for his wrestling I think personally he's gotten slower these past 3 years. Don't get me wrong, Jericho is far from a complete shell of himself (His matches with Styles for example prove that.) but he's still far form the "LionHeart" days. But the match should still be very entertaining.
DinosaurJones 11.06.17	2000 Y2J EDIT: Yeah, I think he's gotten slower, for sure, but that's just the years, most likely. He's still a great technical wrestler, and his character has pretty much always been top notch.
bloc 11.06.17	Damn 2000th comment about Y2J
LunaticSoul 11.07.17	and I'm seeing it live. gonna be rad although tbh I was expecting to see a double murder, title unifying IC/US bout in Ibushi-Omega
DinosaurJones 11.07.17	You're seeing it live?? Damn, that shit is gonna be nuts. I don't know how accurate the stereotype of the Japanese audience being quiet is anymore, but Jericho's promo got a pretty massive pop from what I saw, so the match should be off the hook.
WetHarmonica1916 11.08.17	AJ FUCKIN STYLES!
WetHarmonica1916 11.08.17	Thank God WWE smartened up and put the belt on Styles, no one wanted to see Jinder/ Lesnar. I've heard rumors that they're gonna put the belt back on Jinder soon because for the India tour they're billing him as a "2 Time WWE Champion" but I could be wrong.
DinosaurJones 11.08.17	The title switches are a little wonky, but I guess I see why they're doing it. But if they're building to a New Day vs the Shield, they better hope that Reigns gets better soon.
bloc 11.08.17	Fuckin hell why did I click on this thread, I haven't even finished watching Raw yet, let alone SD lmao I am like a moth to a flame with this thread
WetHarmonica1916 11.08.17	You think they'll switch the belt on Charlotte next week? I mean I like Nattie as a wrestler, but Charlotte vs Alexa sounds way more appealing to me.
LunaticSoul 11.08.17	Belt is totally going to be given back to Jinder during the India tour.. AJ can survive a short reign and a beatdown by Lesnar. He's just that over yes I'm going for WK12. I'll make sure to be the noisy gaijin fanboying the crap out of Jericho
Storm In A Teacup 11.09.17	should i check smackdown?
Minushuman24 11.11.17	Smackdown was pretty legit last week
WetHarmonica1916 11.14.17	Man I'm sure glad that young Upstart Triple H is getting a chance at Survivor Series! I wonder if he'll end up winning any world titles though?? Hmmmm
DinosaurJones 11.14.17	There's no way they were gonna leave Jordan on the Raw team, his name stuck out like a sore thumb. I still think they should have put Bray in instead of HHH though...
bloc 11.14.17	Bray's a fuckin loser though man I like the the way that 5v5 match is going tbh, it kinda adds more suspense. Like the Raw team looks much more superior on paper, but with Cena on the SD team almost balances everything out lmao. That man never loses. Even if he takes the pinfall who is he gonna put over? Everyone on the Raw team is a made man.
DinosaurJones 11.14.17	With HHH on the Raw team, I thought there might be something to do with KO, but KO and Zayn aren't even on the card. So who knows, lol.
bloc 11.14.17	Shit good point. HHH is a real life fan of KO so maybe he will run in and cause SD to lose?
DinosaurJones 11.14.17	Yeah, I thought this might be a start of a KO vs HHH feud, to continue KO's attacks on the McMahons. It does seem weird to me that he's being left off the card. I also think Charlotte is probably going to win the title on SD tonight, and that there is no chance that Sin Cara is going to win the US title tonight, although I'd find that slightly hilarious.
bloc 11.14.17	Titles have been passing around like currency these past few weeks. I plan to just go with the flow lol
WetHarmonica1916 11.17.17	Just found out that the War Games match at Takeover isn't gonna have a top on the cages. Not sure how to feel about this...
DinosaurJones 11.17.17	That just probably means there will be "OMG SO AND SO IS JUMPING OFF THE CAGE" hype moments. That said, I'm kind of looking forward to Takeover and Survivor Series this weekend. I also don't have plans, so I should be able to watch both live, which doesn't happen often.
bloc 11.17.17	I think it's ok. The guys in NXT are young and don't get paid much so I doubt any of them would even be willing to jeopardize their careers by jumping off the cage. They can still jump off the walls at least. But yeah this weekend should be pretty sweet wrestling wise. Both cards look awesome. I like the last minute changeups they did.
Minushuman24 11.19.17	War Games was sick
calmrose 11.20.17	that men's elimination match was terrible, awful ending for an otherwise solid ppv
DinosaurJones 11.20.17	Agreed... the main even was pretty terrible, but overall the PPV was solid as hell. I have to say, HHH did look legitimately scared at the end though.
DinosaurJones 11.20.17	Shield vs New Day and Usos vs The Bar delivered in spades, IMO
calmrose 11.20.17	I would add Lesnar vs Styles as well, best match of the night for me and easily Lesnar's best match in quite awhile and this just solidifies Styles as the best wrestler in WWE
mifzal 11.20.17	The eternal thread is back
DinosaurJones 11.20.17	I really thought Styles vs Lesnar was gonna be more of a squash than it was, and I was pleasantly surprised. There was no way they were going to have Lesnar lose, but it was definitely much more even than expected. All respect to AJ.
Minushuman24 11.20.17	The 5 on 5 match left me hugely disappointed, didnt even come close to matching last years cluster fuck masterpiece
bloc 11.21.17	Good god War Games was fuckin amazing. That Black vs. Dream match is one of my favourites of the year. And Almas winning the title was such a huge surprise. That guy was really fuckin over in Dallas wow. SS was solid as hell too, and given how stocked the card was I still have to say I was surprised because WWE has a special talent for messing things up haha. I think the men's 5 on 5 was decent, but the ending was awfully confusing. Is it setting up a HHH vs. Strowman match or an HHH vs. Angle match or what? Hopefully Raw sorts stuff out. Overall, an amazing wrestling weekend.
BallsToTheWall 11.21.17	hat Black vs. Dream match is one of my favourites of the year. (2)
BallsToTheWall 11.21.17	#PAIGE
anat 11.21.17	what a great and weird time to be a wrestling fan
DinosaurJones 11.21.17	Paige is back?? I didn't see Raw
BallsToTheWall 11.21.17	Yeah buddy.
BallsToTheWall 11.21.17	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEA_n4mmBok
DinosaurJones 11.21.17	I < 3 Paige. Hopefully she'll get back on track now.
bloc 11.21.17	I wonder how much of a smartass the crowd will be with her regarding her sex tape
Storm In A Teacup 11.21.17	im still shocked and appalled they did a segment trolling that it happened
bloc 11.21.17	On this past Raw?? Whaaaat
DinosaurJones 11.21.17	I didn't see Raw, but Storm might be referring to the New Day segments that made veiled references.
bloc 11.21.17	Haha ah I remember yeah. There was that one with the New Day cutting a promo backstage with Xavier in the middle. That was gold.
ExhaleTheLight 11.21.17	So Roman wins the IC title, announcers say he finally is a grand slam champion. But but Dean did that back in August when Seth and him won the tag titles and they dont acknowledge it??
DinosaurJones 11.21.17	Why would they? Dean and Seth are just there to get Reigns over at this point.
ExhaleTheLight 11.21.17	Which is why I haven't been too Thrilled with the Shield trio reunion. Seth and Dean on there own was a lot more interesting.
bloc 11.21.17	I got a soft spot for it, but yeah their reunion this time doesn't have the same magic. It also doesn't help that Roman was sick for a month and the other 2 lost the tag titles.
ExhaleTheLight 11.21.17	I've been waiting for Dean to turn heel for the longest time. Raw is in need of a top heel after the horrid booking of the Miz. Braun is practically a face after TLC.
DinosaurJones 11.21.17	It might work, but it would have to be done well. Let's be honest, if he turns "heel" against Roman, he'll just get cheered even more. I think he'd probably even get cheered over Rollins. He does really well as an "anti-hero" character, but I think he'd have to be pretty brutal to get any sort of heel heat.
ExhaleTheLight 11.21.17	Rumor has it Dean faces Seth at Wrestlemania, sure that sounds cool but Dean as the heel? Yeah he will still get a bunch of chants because Seth still hasn't cemented himself fully as a natural babyface. Hell, heel Dean will still get chants no matter what because literally everyone wants him to turn.
Storm In A Teacup 11.22.17	have him punch renee? boos would come
DinosaurJones 11.22.17	That would be a way to do it...
Storm In A Teacup 11.23.17	renee is so haw7 ho
bloc 11.23.17	If you mean she's hot, then yes I agree
ExhaleTheLight 11.28.17	Can someone tell me what's so appealing having Brock vs. Roman for the WM 34 main event?
DinosaurJones 11.29.17	$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ I have no idea.
Minushuman24 11.29.17	maybe vince will get it out of his system after WM34
bloc 11.30.17	Roman is a lot more over now, I've noticed. Him being with Shield and being away for a while seemed to help him a lot. Plus he sounds much better on the mic now imo. And oh God Dana Brooke on this past Raw lol
DinosaurJones 11.30.17	I think Dana should be worried about her job... though she does a lot of ambassador work, I think. I'm still neutral on Roman. Also, I really, really like Ruby Riott, and I hope that she doesn't get buried/lost in the shuffle. Though it is pretty lazy that they're basically doing the EXACT same thing on Raw and SD. Pale/punk aesthetic leader, tanned, blonde cohort, and a muscle backup. I guess they really are gunning for that All women Royal Rumble.
ExhaleTheLight 11.30.17	Once the Shield disbands, Roman will be booed to hell again
bloc 11.30.17	Yeah man, I was about to mention that about Dana as well. Emma was let go after 2 matches with Asuka and those were actually good matches. I bet WWE would get a lot of heat if they released Dana though, since her bf died recently. That, however, is a game of mixing business with personal stuff so I won't even bother with that haha. Agreed the women trios doing the same thing on both shows is really lazy. All women RR is def incoming. I look forward to it.
DinosaurJones 11.30.17	To be fair, the women's division should have "enhancement talent" as well...
bloc 11.30.17	Yeah but this is just too far, they made her look like a complete idiot. Especially since she cut that video promo about "Asuka I've figured you alllll out" seconds before the match started.
DinosaurJones 11.30.17	I wonder if she'll try to join Absolution
bloc 11.30.17	I hope so, that way she has something to do. She and the UFC chick could be like the 2 heavies of the group. But of course that means the SD trio will need a 4th member too
Storm In A Teacup 12.01.17	Hardys got the broken rights. Woken Hardy will debut Monday. TNA has announced all wrestlers with them will now have all rights when they leave them. EC3 can leave and be EC3 in WWE.
DinosaurJones 12.01.17	RIP TNA??
bloc 12.01.17	I hope EC3 comes to WWE, he is awesome.
DinosaurJones 12.01.17	Who are even the big players in TNA anymore? Is Lashley still there? EC3? Del Rio/El Patron? John Morrison is there now, right? (I still hope he'll come back to the 'E at some point)
bloc 12.01.17	I dunno wtf Morrison was thinking going there, he should have known it was a sinking ship. But yeah I believe all those guys you mentioned are still there. I'm fuckin HYPED for LU Season 4 though. Soooooo happy it's coming back.
BigBlob 12.01.17	jim cornette aint
bloc 12.01.17	Yeah I heard he retired or something
DinosaurJones 12.01.17	I haven't seen Season 3 of LU, but season 2 was kind of a clusterfuck. Season 1 was pretty damn awesome though.
bloc 12.01.17	The ending of S3 though bro....damn
bloc 12.04.17	Flair appearing in a Spanish rap vid haha https://youtu.be/gpIBmED4oss
Storm In A Teacup 12.04.17	hoping Woken Hardy is li7 2nigh7
bloc 12.04.17	Hell yeah. Just hope WWE don't fuck it up by doing their own "take" on things like they always do. They've already started it by using "woken" instead of "broken" lol
Storm In A Teacup 12.04.17	no, bloc, da7 was how i7 ended on indies is picking up where lef7 off. he was awoken in 2 his original form Annunaki from Egyp7ian period.
DinosaurJones 12.04.17	I still have trouble believing that whole Annunaki thing was real.
bloc 12.04.17	Ah, that's good then. I'm also hoping he can bring in a live giraffe
Storm In A Teacup 12.04.17	dino did you no7 wa7ch 7NA?
Storm In A Teacup 12.04.17	he was annunaki more on indies no 7NA i jus remembered, le7 me look for links
Storm In A Teacup 12.04.17	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZL5qwQqrt0 found his gear for during da7 7ime
DinosaurJones 12.04.17	I will be taking a look at that when I get home from work.
Storm In A Teacup 12.05.17	found dino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvhgksUQ_oM
DinosaurJones 12.05.17	The weird laughing match between Matt hardy and Bray Wyatt was super awkward, yet oddly compelling. Is that how the entire gimmick will be? I actually saw very little of it.
WetHarmonica1916 12.05.17	Matt vs Bray in an evil laugh match was amazing. I still can't believe Broken Matt is really in WWE. Now the question is, "How will Vince fuck it up?"
ExhaleTheLight 12.05.17	#WOKEN
Storm In A Teacup 12.05.17	Love i7 so much, Ma77 needs 2 bury bray, dig him up, 7hrow 7he coffin in 2 7he LAKE OF REINCARNA7ION, and gain bray as a follower. Or break Bray in2 summoning Ma77s nemesis, Rosemary!
ExhaleTheLight 12.05.17	YEEESSSSSSSSSSSS
Storm In A Teacup 12.05.17	looking forward 2 ma77 bi7ing people
ExhaleTheLight 12.05.17	I hope WWE doesn't mess this up. It was successful in TNA and the Indies because they let them do whatever the fuck they wanted to do.
Storm In A Teacup 12.05.17	bring back senior benjamin and vagaurd 1 !!!!!
DinosaurJones 12.05.17	I think at this point, the Hardys should really have enough goodwill built up to get them some creative control. Especially considering their career should be winding down relatively soon.
Storm In A Teacup 12.05.17	also, Willow in WWE?
Storm In A Teacup 12.05.17	he had be77er be "meek-manning" Vince in2 doing w/e he wan7s
bloc 12.06.17	The opening 30 min of Raw was fuckin amazing. Best Roman and JJ I've seen in a looooong time. Promos and wrestling. Joe is always good of course. Def one of my favourite WWE segments of this year.
WetHarmonica1916 12.06.17	Roman gets way too much shit from the internet. I don't consider myself a fan of his but to say that he's an awful wrestler is ludicrous.
DinosaurJones 12.06.17	He's not awful, but he's not great either.
bloc 12.06.17	I've always been a fan, but now I wanna see global support for him. He's better on the mic, always has great matches, etc. He kinda has this tweener thing going on right now and it fits perfectly.
DinosaurJones 12.06.17	Ech... I'm still not sold. I'm not trying to be difficult, I just don't like the dude.
bloc 12.06.17	No worries, that's what this shit is all about
Storm In A Teacup 12.06.17	"The opening 30 min of Raw was fuckin amazing. Best Roman and JJ I've seen in a looooong time. Promos and wrestling. Joe is always good of course. Def one of my favourite WWE segments of this year." I can't identify with this statement at all.
DinosaurJones 12.06.17	Not even the Joe part?
bloc 12.06.17	Dude it was so good. Roman being a tweener, JJ being super fuckin heelish like wow, and Joe being Joe.
BallsToTheWall 12.06.17	bring back senior benjamin and vagaurd 1 !!!!! (2)
Storm In A Teacup 12.06.17	Just do it
DinosaurJones 12.07.17	I wonder if when Jeff comes back he'll be Brother Nero or not...
ExhaleTheLight 12.07.17	I remember when the Hardys came back, Jeff had a one on one match and Matt was ringside, at point when Jeff was taking a beating he yelled, "C'mon Nero!"
Storm In A Teacup 12.08.17	I would assume as much
WetHarmonica1916 12.08.17	Bring back Senior Benjamin and vanguard 1 !!!!! (3)
Storm In A Teacup 12.08.17	If he has full creative control he can feud with Bray Wyatt until Wrestlemania for all I care. Bring Rosemary in to be Sister Abigail.
bloc 12.09.17	I hear that he has almost full control. Vince doesn't see him as a top star though.
bloc 12.11.17	"Rich Swann arrested for Battery & False Imprisonment. Indefinitely Suspended by WWE"
DinosaurJones 12.11.17	Yeah, from the reports it sounds like he flipped his shit. Dude's probably going to jail.
bloc 12.11.17	That is some really bad timing considering he was in line for a title match. And it's even worse news because he had such an inspirational back story. Parents both dying when he was young etc.
WetHarmonica1916 12.11.17	Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Stone Cold proven guilty for beating his wife back in 2003 and WWE didn't bat an eye on it? Isn't that pretty hypocritical of WWE to only punish the wrestlers that don't make them money.
DinosaurJones 12.11.17	Agreed, but it's not really a surprise, unfortunately. Adam Rose and Rich Swann can easily face the consequences, but if it were to come out that Reigns or Orton (for example) were guilty of domestic violence, I'd be hard pressed to see how they would handle it.
bloc 12.11.17	Yeah that would be a true test of their ethics. But to hell with that, they even have Mike Tyson in the HoF lol
DinosaurJones 12.11.17	Plus, I'm sure they're going to let Hogan back into the fold sooner than later.
bloc 12.11.17	Not gonna lie about that one, bringing back Hogan is a good move for business. And the timing is right since WM season is approaching. I am assuming all he did was say some racist stuff a while ago right? Like nothing more serious than that. If so, he's apologized several times for it and done some other good stuff, so I think he is ok now.
DinosaurJones 12.11.17	I just don't like Hogan as a person. Even before the whole racism debacle, he's just always been out for number one, and after reading the Death of WCW, and seeing all the crap he's done, he does not come off as a likeable dude.
Storm In A Teacup 12.11.17	jericho just beat the shit out of kenny omega!!!
WetHarmonica1916 12.12.17	Because he's the Alpha to Kenny's Omega.
WetHarmonica1916 12.12.17	Hogan is the biggest egomaniac in wrestling history. I enjoy a classic 80s Hogan promo like the next guy, but he thinks he is an absolute God. In reality he was an average wrestler who was at the right place at the right time and thats why he was pushed. You could of put someone like Sgt. Slaughter for example as face of the company with the whole "Pro America" thing and it would of worked just as well.
Storm In A Teacup 12.12.17	No one here would disagree with that. I just hope to never see him again on TV. Not interesting. Can't get any of his promos right to the point crowds have to manage him. He should never come back.
ExhaleTheLight 12.12.17	I swear to god this company needs to stop bringing in all these old farts and have the new blood headline all the big shows. Doesn't matter if ratings will go down, these old dudes are just temporary fixes.
DinosaurJones 12.14.17	So now Nia Jax and Enzo are gonna kayfabe bone? Cool story, WWE.
bloc 12.14.17	Dude I always found her to be hot as hell, not gonna lie. I can really see her doing well as a babyface too.
DinosaurJones 12.14.17	Oh, I'm not saying she isn't attractive, I'm just lost on the logic behind... uh... Hahaha, logic in WWE. Though I did see that Ryback is trying to claim credit for KO and Zayn's "Yep yep yep" shirts from his days as Skip Sheffield.
WetHarmonica1916 12.15.17	Nia Jax has probably one of the prettiest faces in the women's roster, at least top 5.
bloc 12.15.17	Hell yeah bruh
DinosaurJones 12.19.17	WHO'S GONNA WIN THAT LADIES' ROYAL RUMBLE? Any surprise returns/call ups??
bloc 12.19.17	I see almost everyone shitting on CoC, but I thought the PPV was overall quite strong. That 4 way tag team match might be one of my favourite matches this year. And holy fuck the crowd was insane for Rusev Day lmao. The double ref match was a mess but I thought that's exactly what it needed to be. Super fun match too.
DinosaurJones 12.19.17	Didn't see it, honestly :/ I might watch it later in the week if I'm feeling froggy. I bet that tag match is good, the Usos have been killing it ever since their heel turn.
ExhaleTheLight 12.20.17	Man it was inevitable for Dean to finally get injured
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	Think it's legit? I thought he might be going to film a movie or something
ExhaleTheLight 12.20.17	It's legit. He tore his triceps tendon and has to undergo surgery. This sucks because he's gonna miss Mania.
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	Aw, damn, that does suck.
ExhaleTheLight 12.20.17	And he was suppose to face Rollins at mania too
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	To be fair, I still don't know how well an Ambrose heel turn would have gone down anyways. I guess we'll see what happens when he gets back.
bloc 12.20.17	Damn that's even worse if that was gonna be the match up. I'd have loved to see the heel turn alone.
DinosaurJones 12.20.17	I think it would have had to have been a damn good/brutal heel turn to keep people from cheering Ambrose. People love the dude.
ExhaleTheLight 12.21.17	It still sucks. First major injury of his career
bloc 12.21.17	Damn I was almost sure it was just a work, even though it's on WWE's site. Especially since they used the injury in a backstage segment later on after the match.
ExhaleTheLight 12.22.17	They don't want to acknowledge the fact that he's been wrestling hurt and wwe doesn't give a shit until you're legitimately hurt, one of the reasons why Punk left
rebeccasugar1979 12.22.17	I wish they didn't stuck Itami in 205 live. Let him and Finn tag together or something. Finn is directionless right now and there's only 2 teams on raw.
Storm In A Teacup 12.22.17	need around 4-5 groups added on main shows
DinosaurJones 12.22.17	Teams on Raw: The Bar The Revival The Club Uh... Damn, and they're all heel, too.
DinosaurJones 12.22.17	Also, are they seriously having a live show on Christmas Day? Isn't that kind of fucked? They better not bitch about the ratings...
bloc 12.22.17	The Christmas show could go one of 2 ways: A throwaway episode full of Christmas gimmicks such as a Miracle on 34th Street fight, or an episode stacked with title matches and shit. I am curious to see what happens. Also, a fan threw a water bottle at Kalisto's face during the last 205. Looks like it really injured him. These fuckin fans I tell ya https://youtu.be/GRrSgOFheU4
Storm In A Teacup 12.22.17	Dino you forgot Absolution who is heel too lol
DinosaurJones 01.05.18	Did anyone see Jericho/Omega? Also, I have 0 predictions for either RR thus far.
bloc 01.05.18	Did not watch WK yet, might start it tonight but probably won't finish. Shit I am hyped for the RRs and the 25th anniversary show though. I think WWE overall is really solid right now.
DinosaurJones 01.05.18	I hope Ruby Riot wins the women's RR, but that probably won't happen. I also hope that Nakamura wins the RR, but that probably won't happen either!
bloc 01.05.18	Whaaaa? Nah man she def won't win. I would be totally shocked if she did tbh. I could see her in top 4 though. The bitch def knows how to talk and wrestle. Yeah lots of people want Nak to win, and honestly that is a pretty good option especially if AJ goes into WM as the champ. A match between those 2 is fuckin money. The IWC and smarks would pay out of their ass to watch it.
DinosaurJones 01.05.18	Realistically, I can honestly see them giving Cena another RR win... I hope that doesn't happen given the complete deflation everyone felt at Orton winning last year. I really have no idea about the women's RR though.
bloc 01.05.18	For women's RR I am thinking it is gonna be Asuka. That seems like a very predictable choice. WWE needs to keep in mind that they are in Philly again. Reigns winning was bad enough, so if Reigns Sr. wins I can't imagine it will end any better. Plus, there are already rumors that Cena will be facing Undertaker at WM. I am waiting to see the Rusev Day pop though, that will be massive.
DinosaurJones 01.05.18	Ugh, I kind of wish Taker just stayed retired. He really has nothing left to prove, and he'd kind of be tarnishing his legacy at this point, win or lose. I see no point to a Cena/Taker matchup at this point except $$$, which I guess is the point of everything. And yeah, Asuka does seem like a safe bet.
Minushuman24 01.05.18	God, I hope Taker stays gone, last year broke my heart. I'm hoping for Asuka to win, but I feel like they should get another title reign in for someone, because that's staying on her for a long time.
DinosaurJones 01.05.18	There is nothing to gain from a Taker/Cena match. Taker is basically retired, and Cena is also on his way out.
Storm In A Teacup 01.06.18	Jericho Omega was good. So was other stuff on that show. Now Jericho and Naito will have a match.
Minushuman24 01.08.18	Not WWE related, but went to Wrestlepalooza at First Avenue last night and it was fucking cool
Storm In A Teacup 01.08.18	wwe has maybe one or two of the ten best things going on in wrestling right now so id prefer talking about other companies such as my friend cheered so hard for Joey Ryans entrance he pulled his shoulder out taking a picture of him and now has to have surgery. guess his dick does have super powers. Ryan also tweeted him well wishes lol and WK12 was awesome and fallout is just as good especially new being the elite, so funny
DinosaurJones 01.08.18	The King of Dong Style claims another victim
bloc 01.08.18	lmao is that his nickname? Because that is some marketable shit right there. Watched the whole WK12, and loved it. The Omega/Jericho match was amazing. Probably gonna be one of my favourite matches of 2018. Jericho was a grade A heel too omg. Perfect performance from him from that point of view.
Eons 01.08.18	Dean Ambrose injured for up to 9 months, The Shield weak since reforming, Reigns boring face single's push still ongoing, and Rollins is teaming with and is tag team champions with quite possibly the most boring and annoying new talent in quite some time..
Eons 01.08.18	I also want to add that John Cena and Kevin Federline are the greatest rappers of all time.
bloc 01.08.18	JJ grows on me with every week. He's gotten so much better on the mic, especially now that he's teetering between being a face and heel constantly.
DinosaurJones 01.08.18	The whole "Shield Reunion" has been a complete disaster. Besides the fact that it was meant purely to try and get Reigns over again, it's been consistently derailed with Reigns' medical leave and now Ambrose being out for 9 months... they barely reunited at all.
bloc 01.08.18	Yeah the timing was awful. I can imagine it would have worked very well if not for the sickness and injury.
WetHarmonica1916 01.08.18	Kenny Omega vs Chris Jericho was fucking phenomenal. I don't care what anyone says it was a 5 Star Classic.
bloc 01.08.18	Yep, I agree. Even in spite of the issues like Omega blading and so on, it was a perfect match. I can't stress enough how good Jericho was in it. At the end of the ppv when Okada was celebrating his victory I was waiting for Jericho to come up behind him and take him out. Imagine that shit.
WetHarmonica1916 01.08.18	I still can't believe that the match lived up to the hype. As much as I love Jericho his In ring work from 2012 (Post Feud With Punk) - 2016 had not been his best. I would imagine that Omega and Jericho aren't dumb enough to end it off of this though. I could easily see a rematch in a future.
bloc 01.08.18	2017 was a good year for him though. Other than the Japan stuff, he had the "list" gimmick in WWE that was super over. He didn't even have to wrestle much tbh.
Eons 01.12.18	Jericho will be successful in anything he does, pretty much, it seems. He's naturally charismatic, I guess.
DinosaurJones 01.12.18	Jericho is definitely one of the GOATs, so even if he's a heel, most of the thigns he says about himself are true. Also, they're really hyping up the Mixed Match challenge. Sucks that Zayn/Lynch got matched up against Strowman/Bliss, because we all know who's going to win THAT one... and I love Becky Lynch.
bloc 01.12.18	I actually kinda like how kayfabe was totally thrown out the window for this mixed match challenge too lol
DinosaurJones 01.12.18	Yeah, it's kinda nice to see everyone acting a little more naturally. I wouldn't say it's unscripted (I don't think WWE even allows unscripted content anymore), but it seems a lot less wooden and forced.
bloc 01.12.18	I think some of the reveals they're posting on Youtube like, "Guess who's your partner. It's this guy!" are unscripted. For example, the Goldust/Fox pairing, and probably a few others. Every reveal video has been fuckin money imo. Some really good chemistry between each pair. Something I thought was never even possible. Hell, I love how disappointed Nia was to be teaming with Apollow haha.
DinosaurJones 01.12.18	I haven't seem all of them. I think I've seen Lynch/Zayn, Fox/Goldust, Asuka/Miz and Natalya/Nakamura
bloc 01.12.18	Dude, the Uso/Naomi and Nai/Apollo ones are pure gold lol
Eons 01.12.18	did anyone see this video Jericho did before the ppv? He addresses some guy talking trash about him online, lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyTaegewcZ0
bloc 01.12.18	Haha yeah man, someone drew a pic of him with Guerrero and Benoit and he said he was going to dedicate the match to those 2 guys and everyone exploded lol. The 3 guys were all friends, I don't see the harm I like how he called out Ryan Satin lmao. That nigga is always talking shit.
bloc 01.13.18	I think I am starting to develop a crush on Dakota Kai, that ho looks gooooood
WetHarmonica1916 01.24.18	Bold Prediction for Rumble and Mania.... Kane wins the title from Lesnar and Braun, Taker wins the Rumble. Taker vs Kane, Career vs Title match at Mania. Taker officially retires.
bloc 01.24.18	I hate both of those predictions! Btw, did anyone catch Raw 25. Everyone is shitting on it sooooo hard. I can see where they're coming from. The opening segment with Austin and the McMahons is where the show peaked and the rest came nowhere near as close I also feel bad for those that shelled out hundreds to go to the Manhattan Center. They got absolutely nothing.
anat 01.24.18	i'm normally buzzing for the rumble and this year it just feels forgotten about but also normally i get real saddened by the winner, so maybe this year it means it'll be a decent choice
bloc 01.25.18	It's bad timing that it's following right after Raw 25, since Raw 25 focused on legends and didn't do much to promote RR. This year they should've delayed RR by one week so the go home show could be devoted to progressing storylines for the RR. Despite that, I'm excited for both RRs, as I have absolutely no idea who the winners will be. And they're in Philly, so a hot crowd makes things even better.
Storm In A Teacup 01.25.18	Dolph Ziggler wins the Royal Rumble and challenges Bobby Roode for the United States championship
Storm In A Teacup 01.25.18	Kami Owenz vs Shinjay Stylesmora (or AK Nakastyles) for the WWE title
Storm In A Teacup 01.25.18	Undertaker vs Kane vs Braun Strowman vs Brock Lesnar for the Universal title
Storm In A Teacup 01.25.18	Jinder Mahal vs a surprise return of Chris Jericho
Storm In A Teacup 01.25.18	Elias vs John Cena vs the Rock in an Entertainment Gauntlet Contest
DinosaurJones 01.25.18	Today is the day Vince announces the return of the XFL.
Storm In A Teacup 01.25.18	Bayley vs Drew Gulak for the cruiserweight championship
Storm In A Teacup 01.25.18	Andre the Giant battle royale winner earns thr number one pick in the XFL draft. Final two wrestlers are previous Andre the Giant winners and former sports "stars", Baron Corbin and Mojo Rawley.
Storm In A Teacup 01.25.18	Rhona Rousey vs Asuka for womens raw title in a Japanese Wooden cage fight.
Storm In A Teacup 01.25.18	The hardcore title is brought back one night only and whoever is champion at end of Wrestlemania broadcast wins the title for a year until the next wrestlemania. The title changes hands 15 times including people accidentally winning and people winning multiple times but always comedically losing it. Before the final match of the night Seth Rollins curb stomps a celebrating Jason Jordan to win the Hardcore title while Kurt Angle stands there in shock
Storm In A Teacup 01.25.18	Kurt Angle vs a Triple Nips in a disgruntled face vs disgruntled hairline match
bloc 01.25.18	One thing is for sure, Enzo Amore will not be making a WWE appearance any time soon
ExhaleTheLight 01.25.18	Man I'm so surprised with the development of Elias. WWE struck gold.
DinosaurJones 01.25.18	They didn't even wish him the best in his future endeavors. I wonder what they're gonna do with the cruiserweight belt now.
ExhaleTheLight 01.25.18	205 Live is done tbh. Unless they bring back Rey and other former wwe talent
DinosaurJones 01.25.18	But they just signed Ricochet!
ExhaleTheLight 01.25.18	Isn't he going to NXT?
bloc 01.25.18	If 205 wasn't dead then, it has gotta be dead now. There is like zero drawing power without Enzo. That division is seriously cursed. Ricochet would be a huuuuge star in NXT imo, but he would be killed if they put him on 205, but now that there's a top spot to fill I wouldn't be surprised if WWE changes their minds and puts him on 205 as the top guy. I'd feel so bad for Ricochet if that happens. I believe it's still uncertain whether the Enzo stuff is legit, but even if it isn't and he's innocent, the guy's life is tainted forever.
DinosaurJones 01.25.18	Yeah, hard to say. I read what the girl posted, and well... it sounds like the shit he would say. He's a dude that lived his act, so it wouldn't come as a surprise to me, unfortunately. That said, yeah, 205 seems beyond revival. A lot of those dudes are great too, but after the CWC was awesome and then 205 was neutered in comparison... sucks. I wonder what's going on with Neville...
ExhaleTheLight 01.25.18	Drew Gulak is the best thing about 205 live, but the fans don't care. When the cruiserweights fight it's a bathroom break.
bloc 01.25.18	I wouldn't be surprised either if it was all real, but the chick accusing also has a bit of a shady history, or so I've heard. Gulak is awesome, but only if he has someone to bounce off of imo. There's no larger than life star other than Enzo that could work well enough.
DinosaurJones 01.25.18	True, most of the cruiserweights are still just "Generic athletic face #1," "Generic sneaky heel #1 (with sunglasses)" "Generic Luchador Face #1," etc.
DinosaurJones 01.25.18	HOLY SHIT, HE'S REALLY BRINGING BACK THE XFL
DinosaurJones 01.25.18	XFL in 2 years! Damn.
bloc 01.25.18	Bah, it's no surprise. All the clues were pointing to that. It is nice to see he's gonna take his time and plan a launch in 2020. Although I guess it does make sense, considering he's spending his OWN money this time around, and not WWE money...
Storm In A Teacup 01.28.18	Drew Gulak should simultaneously be the general manager of 205 live, interviewer on Smackdown, and John Cena's tag team partner on Raw. And all three shows run ads for Drew Gulak praising his job as GM and using it as a springboard to run for CEO of WWE. Then at Summerslam it will be Drew Gulak in a steel cage vs Vince McMahon and John Cena will vome down and do something Idk. I got a few more months to finish booking it!
Storm In A Teacup 01.29.18	I forgot about the Rowdy in Rowdy Rhonda Rousey
bloc 01.30.18	I was pretty shocked and proud to see the women's RR was the main event of the PPV but then I realized it was done so that they could end with Rhonda...
Storm In A Teacup 01.30.18	Dont you put that evil on me Ricky Blocky
DinosaurJones 02.06.18	So I started a thing on my Facebook called "WWEmon Adventures," which is quite possibly the nerdiest thing I've ever done (and I play D&D and have a Let's Play youtube channel). It's a combination of WWE and Pokémon where WWE Superstars are caught and battled like Pokémon. I've only done 2 entries so far, but I put up a poll at the end and let people vote on the action/outcome of a question I pose at the end. If it catches on enough, I might move it off FB, but if anyone here is interested, idgaf and will add you if you want to get in on it.
Storm In A Teacup 02.20.18	what a raw. Seth Rollins wrestles three matches for over an hour, beats Reigns clean, then beats Cena clean, loses to Elias, and finally Asuka flashes us her nips. 5/5 show
DinosaurJones 02.20.18	Too bad he's not gonna win at EC. Also, more Asuka nips plz.
bloc 02.20.18	Whoa guy what? I didn't notice the flash, gotta rewatch that shit. Yeah Rollins got a serious rub beating both Cena and Reigns back to back. I wonder if it means anything. I'd love to see him and Balor have a lengthy feud.
ExhaleTheLight 02.20.18	Jericho - first undisputed champ Rollins - first WWE and U.S. champ at the same time Jericho - beat Rock and Stone cold in the same night Rollins - beat Cena and Reigns on the same night Rollins is the new Y2j
Storm In A Teacup 02.20.18	ehh, if he doesn't win the EC then last night means nothing. when he said it himself those words rung quite true.
Storm In A Teacup 02.20.18	plus rollins and jericho are completely different
bloc 02.20.18	Good point. And just like Jericho, he's decent at being either a heel or face. Jericho obviously excels at either department.
DinosaurJones 02.20.18	Does anyone else think they'll release Jason Jordan before he comes back from injury?
Storm In A Teacup 02.20.18	Jericho never succeeded as a face until a year ago imo
bloc 02.20.18	No way, what gave you that idea?
bloc 02.20.18	"Jericho never succeeded as a face until a year ago imo" Fair enough, I can agree with that
Storm In A Teacup 02.20.18	when this whole angle started I thought that Jason Jordan was toast but now I "get it" and think he's going to be valued be WWE and more likely to be overvalued rather than let go
ExhaleTheLight 02.21.18	I think Rollins can finally succeed as a top face now after that gutsy performance. Still waiting for Heel Ambrose vs Face Rollins
Storm In A Teacup 02.21.18	they probably value Heel Ambrose vs Face Reigns more unfortunately
Storm In A Teacup 02.21.18	let's take a second and reflect on the great feud of Rollins and Ambrose. everyone thought Ambrose would be the heel and Rollins the face but they flipped it around and it worked so perfectly. Ambrose being like Russell Westbrook cuz you know he's coming for Rollins (Durant) and it's gonnna be vicious. The comedy that was worked in actually worked too. To me it proved Rollins could be a good heel in the vein of Triple H and still be taken seriously cuz you know he's' going to to do something to get even.
DinosaurJones 02.21.18	That feud pretty much cemented Ambrose as a main eventer, proving he could pull off the anti-hero thing extremely well. Unfortunately for him later on, there was no way that he was going to get cheered over a debuting Styles.
Storm In A Teacup 02.21.18	"no way that he was going to get cheered over a debuting Styles." now THAT was a ceiling left unshattered
ExhaleTheLight 02.21.18	That's what made him irrelevant for most of 2017 after dropping the title to styles. Not until the summer when he teamed with Rollins.
Storm In A Teacup 02.21.18	what if ambrose had been given the last three wrestlemania bookings that Roman Reigns had? ambrose hadn't yet gotten his revenge on rollins at wm 30 so that heat would have been built even more between their personal feud. and ambrose would still have wrestled lesnar and it would have been a more creative match. ambrose with his rebellious stone cold esque gimmick beats triple h at mania? ambrose is the second person to beat undertaker at mania. the fans would love him and his heel turn to beat the undertaker would have been excellent and now we would have a face seth rollins by 2018 like we do now.
DinosaurJones 02.21.18	That sounds sooooooooooooo much better than what has actually happened.
Storm In A Teacup 02.21.18	he would be the PG Stone Cold
ExhaleTheLight 02.22.18	Too bad he suffers the most inconsistent booking out of the 3 shield boys
bloc 02.24.18	Is it just me or has 205 Live been fuckin amazing for the past few weeks
Storm In A Teacup 02.25.18	bloc do you not know?
Storm In A Teacup 02.25.18	looked back on the comments, seems you might not know. Vince was the one running every show besides NXT until a few weeks ago. He stepped down from 205 live and Triple H is in control of 205 live the same way he is NXT. He owns that shit now and Vince can do nothing to it.
bloc 02.25.18	I saw that, but I was like yeah yeah what diff does that make. But damn, it's like night and day. It's like watching another NXT. The only mistake they're making is not taping in front of a smaller crowd. Shit would be ten times hotter than it is now.
Storm In A Teacup 02.25.18	send an e-mail to... (dramatic pause, dramatic camera turn) Drake Maverick
Realm 02.25.18	Suck me ass
DinosaurJones 02.26.18	Strowman eliminates everyone in the EC, only to be beaten by Reigns. How utterly frustrating.
BallsToTheWall 02.26.18	They ruined that Hardy/Wyatt feud with that match.
DinosaurJones 02.26.18	I also have no idea what they're doing with that either. I'm usually pretty hype for WM, but this year is looking dire. Pretty pumped for Nak/Styles, but... that's about it.
bloc 02.26.18	The women's match was really good imo. And even the men's one was solid except for the unbelievable ending. I would have preferred it if all the guys teamed up together solely to get Braun out and then had a proper match, even if Roman still won. But holy fuck, Alexa's promo after winning the chamber was godly. From crying and being teary eyed, I thought she was turning face but then...ugh...what a master. She actually had be fooled. It was as good as the Mark Henry retirement speech a few years ago. YOU THINK IT'S THAT EASY??? What did you guys think of the Rhonda segment?
calmrose 02.26.18	the Rhonda segment for the most part was super awkward, I mean, it did its job setting up that WM match, or at least getting the gears going, but holy cow was the "acting" in that segment just laughable
bloc 02.26.18	I thought it was really uncomfortable to watch at first, but once Angle start piping up things got interesting. I know they wanna save the physicality for WM, but ugh how could she just stand there in the ring after getting slapped. It just doesn't make any sense. There should have a been a Brock-style brawl where refs and the roster have to come from the back to separate the 2 from killing each other.
ExhaleTheLight 03.02.18	^ didn't they do that brawl for WM31?
DinosaurJones 03.02.18	The best part of that entire segment was Kurt stooging off HHH and Steph. Also, this Ronda vs. the Mic feud is gonna be interesting... but she does have a great game face.
rockandmetaljunkie 03.02.18	WWE is fake, isn't not ?
DinosaurJones 03.02.18	That was covered in the past 2250 comments, but yeah, it is.
rockandmetaljunkie 03.02.18	hahaha, i know jones, was just trolling
rockandmetaljunkie 03.02.18	was watching this show around 2002-2005, is stone cold and the rock still around, performing ?
DinosaurJones 03.02.18	Nah, Stone Cold had to retire due to neck issues, and I doubt if the Rock will ever get in the ring again. He's making bank in Hollywood, and the last time he did a serious match, he got some injuries, so I don't think he's keen on it anymore.
rockandmetaljunkie 03.02.18	yeah, nobody can beat the clock
DropTune 03.02.18	Just so you guys know, I post threads about this on the forum here. Feel free to check out my RAW, SMACKDOWN, NXT, TNA, ROH and Lucha Underground reviews.
DinosaurJones 03.02.18	I'd really like to see season 3 of LU. They need to put it on Netflix.
DropTune 03.02.18	Lucha Underground needs to cut a deal with Netflix and ditch El Rey. That network does nothing for them and they get more exposure on Netflix than anywhere else. Lucha Underground is running into a few issues with funding. El Rey low-balled their budget causing them to ditch "The Temple" and move into a smaller venue. Not to mention most of their top talent is leaving. It's a shame to see that due to how consistently well received and executed Underground has been these past few years. Under the right leadership I'm sure Underground would thrive. Here's a link to my review for those who want to check it out. https://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=646672
WetHarmonica1916 03.07.18	I wanna be the reason Charlotte has to announce she's suffering from anal bleeding.
bloc 03.07.18	Lmao what??
DinosaurJones 03.08.18	Well then. Anyways, I kind of thought season 2 of LU was a train wreck. Season 1 was good. I really want to see how Season 3 was. I'm sure I could find it somewhere, but... effort.
bloc 03.08.18	Season 3 was godly. Ultimate Lucha Tres was one of the best things ever.
DropTune 03.08.18	I've enjoyed all seasons of Lucha Underground. Their storytelling takes time to get used to. The current season filming looks to be interesting.
DinosaurJones 03.08.18	It would be pretty great if they could cut a deal with Netflix, honestly. It'd probably be far more lucrative for them. I've recently started listening to a lot of Jim Cornette. I definitely disagree with some of his views, but goddamn if he isn't an entertaining man.
DropTune 03.08.18	Jim Cornette is an entertaining kind of idiot. He makes no sense when he talks, but he gets so passionate about it. Unfortunately my wrestling forum posts aren't doing that well, so I won't be reviewing Lucha Underground any time soon. Lucha Underground should have cut a Netflix deal a while ago. Hopefully when El Rey drops them, Netflix will use their common sense and capitalize. Indie wrestling is white hot right now.
DinosaurJones 03.08.18	The forums are pretty dead, so don't take it personally. Feel free to use this list for any of that sort of stuff though, it's been around for 2 years and is still semi-active, it drops off here and there, but I always check in on it.
bloc 03.08.18	Hope things get hot on this thread post-WM
DinosaurJones 03.08.18	I have to say, NXT and 205 are pretty great. Triple H taking the lead on those shows seem to only have brought good things. I wonder how RAW and SD would be if he was in charge of those as well.
bloc 03.08.18	Omg yeah NXT has always been 10/10 but the difference in 205 has been night and day holy hell. If only they moved it to a Full Sail-esque venue, it could rival NXT in terms of greatness.
DinosaurJones 03.08.18	Mustafa Ali is great. And I think I'm definitely in the skeptical boat (with most other people) with Buddy Murphy actually being below 205
bloc 03.08.18	Duuude I was just about to name drop Mustafa, that guy has really stepped up his skills as of late. He was always good in the ring, but finally hearing him talk was a breath of fresh air. The man can fuckin talk. I loved those promos he cut when he was like outside at night or something. Haha yeah Buddy looks freakin huge compared to everyone else on that brand. Really impressive physique though. They did an official weigh in twice on tv but they didn't actually show the scale so...
DinosaurJones 03.08.18	I wonder if they're actually going to use that as a storyline
DropTune 03.08.18	Alright, here goes my rant/review. NXT was pretty good this week. The match of the night was obviously TM-61 vs. Authors of Pain. The power bomb spot was brutal and very surprising. The crowd reaction was perfect for it. Pain vs Sanity is the obvious outcome, but at least it will be well-wrestled. The women's division continues to shuffle between Baszler, Moon, and Sane. It wouldn't surprise me if Baszler will knock off Moon in Orlando. Baszler's in-ring limitations will make it troublesome for her to live up to NXT standards. It will be a while before she does anything special. Ciampa's heel turn is absolutely perfect. His heat puts Andrade to shame. I don't know why everyone thinks Gargano is going to the main roster. He's obviously going to fight Ciampa at Takeover. With the main roster draft rumored for May, it wouldn't shock me if he sticks around longer to tie up loose ends. The main event wasn't as good as initial expectations, but even their average matches are better than RAW and SMACKDOWN. The upcoming ladder match at Takeover will feature Ricochet, Velveteen Dream, Killian Dain, Lars Sullivan, EC3, and Adam Cole battling for the NXT North American Championship. This is evenly matched to the bone. I don't care who wins. I hope everyone wins in that case. That was my short rant for the week. They keep saying this post is too long, so I'll shut up now.
DinosaurJones 03.08.18	Don't get me wrong, I love NXT, but I think adding another belt is a little rough. The UK title is kind of... just there, even if it's not an official NXT belt, it seems a little superfluous, and I can't help but think that the NA title is going to be the same. That also means that NXT will have: NXT Championship NXT Tag NXT Women's UK Title (in theory) NA Title And that's only with an hour of TV a week. Meanwhile, 205 has one title. They should introduce tag belts with as many tag matches as they have though.
bloc 03.08.18	Screw that, I love the addition of more belts to both NXT and 205. Makes both shows seem more legit and have their own identities imo
DinosaurJones 03.08.18	I don't think it's a bad thing, I just think with only one hour of content a week it's hard to have programs for all the belts they'll have.
bloc 03.08.18	They don't need to showcase every belt on every episode. The main event of each episode can be focused on a single belt. It's kinda like how they tend to rotate their wrestlers every week. And then on Takeover, all the belts are defended.
DropTune 03.08.18	I think a new title will help balance out the roster. NXT, at this point, has EC3, Ricochet, McIntyre, Adam Cole, Lars Sullivan, and Gargano. There is *so much* star power right now. Capitalizing on that with a new title will help keep everyone busy. That way when someone loses the NXT title, the North American title will keep them relevant. The UK title is meant for one specific area being the UK Division. WWE wants to expand on the UK division sometime down the road, but the North American title will help NXT flesh out its midcard division. The UK title flounders because the UK talent run the indies. They aren't exclusively signed to WWE, so they can't be featured every week. It's really weird, but that's why it isn't as showcased.
DinosaurJones 03.08.18	I definitely agree with all those points. It makes sense, I just think they might be better off by expanding to 2 hours, perhaps. Though oversaturation is definitely a possibility what with 3 hours of Raw, 2 of SD, 1 of 205, and another 2 of NXT? To be completely honest, I don't watch the weekly shows, normally. I just keep up with highlights and watch the PPVs.
Storm In A Teacup 03.08.18	Same as me. 7 hours a week? Never. I'll commit 2 or 3 at most
DropTune 03.09.18	I've been keeping up with developmental since 2010. I always enjoyed it more than main roster WWE. I can commit to NXT because it's only an hour, they focus their shows, and their live events are engaging. Seeing how NXT manages one hour compares to RAW's 3 is insane! 7 hours a week doesn't bother me as much. Considering the fact I watch WWE, Impact, ROH, etc. I could care less. Especially since ROH and Impact add an extra two hours. L.U. is seasonal, so I can't really include it. 7 hours of *good* wrestling wouldn't be so bad. Instead, we get about 5 hours of average wrestling and 2 hours of good wrestling. The rest is hit-and-miss indie wrestling.
bloc 03.09.18	Imagine WM weekend haha, that's gonna add on an extra 10 or so hours?
DinosaurJones 03.09.18	When WM itself is like 7 hours (with the preshow/kickoff), that's a lot to take in.
bloc 03.09.18	Don't forget NXT Takeover, HoF ceremony, and whatever show RoH is putting on haha
DinosaurJones 03.09.18	Too much for me. I'm sure I'll end up watching most of it, but probably not all in one sitting.
bloc 03.09.18	Oh yeah, I'm in the same boat. I'll end up watching everything but it will be spread out over a whole week. Even watching WM in one sitting is a bit much these days.
DinosaurJones 03.09.18	I did it last year. I think it was 7 hours. I just ordered a whole bunch of Chinese Food, ate, and played Stardew Valley with WM on in the background, haha. Dunno if I can handle that again.
Hvunted 03.09.18	WWE ended upon Edges' and Shawn Michaels' retirement
DropTune 03.09.18	I'm the type of fan WWE hates. I like pro-wrestling in general. I don't know why they hate these fans. The second WWE dips, they turn to us. Once they get back on their feet, they hate us. WWE hasn't ended for me yet. Right now it's a game of wait and see.
BallsToTheWall 03.12.18	BREEZANGO!!!!
DinosaurJones 03.12.18	I think Harper and Rowan just killed a man. That powerbomb on the steps looked brutal.
DropTune 03.12.18	Now for my Fastlane review. Fastlane was a lot better than it should have been. The matches were contested competitively and most looked strong in defeat. The weakest match on the card was the women's tag match, but otherwise, everything was pretty good. This certainly was better than Elimination Chamber. The 6-man match went a lot better than expected. I honestly though it would have been a chaotic slug-fest, but it reminded me of the NXT Fatal 4 Way match a few years back. Everyone got their chance to shine. The second one went out, another went in. The women's championship match was very physical. Ruby Riot can hold her own in-ring, but she doesn't have the star power to become champion. The tag title match went as everyone assumed. Typical Uso/New Day magic. Bludgeon Brother's were a welcome surprise and mixed up the tag rankings for the blue brand. The U.S. title match was unpredictable. I was hoping for Roode to retain, but Orton's victory makes the U.S. title more relevant. The match started slow but eventually spiraled into a good back and forth contest. Rusev and Nakamura kicking the night off was a great decision on Smackdown's part. The match got the fans rallying for a night full of energy. I'm giving Fastlane a B+ for being an actually decent filler show before Wrestlemania.
bloc 03.12.18	Yeah solid PPV, but very predictable just like Elimination Chamber was. Really glad AJ won though, because that Naka match will be great. Seems like we might get a 3 way between Shane, Owens, and Zayn at WM? And I kinda feel like Bobby Roode did a bit of a heel turn after attacking Orton after the match, which, if true, thank godddd
DinosaurJones 03.12.18	Yeah, surprisingly solid. Mojo Rawley also cut his best promo backstage. I still don't like him, but it was a good promo.
bloc 03.12.18	I didn't watch the preshow, but I am gonna check that promo out. I know that dude has potential to be a great heel.
DropTune 03.12.18	Strong booking was the main reason Fastlane did well. I hope Bobby goes heel again. That's the reason I liked him in NXT.
DinosaurJones 03.12.18	Indeed. Roode is certainly over, but he also feels unnatural as a face.
bloc 03.12.18	I knooow, it's the weirdest thing. He needs to go heel and Rusev needs to go face. But before that, Rusev needs to be on fuckin tv lol
DropTune 03.12.18	Bobby Roode has always been a heel. Even in TNA, he was one of their top heels. Roode's moveset is also heel oriented. He's a slow worker who wears his opponents down. He's innovative, but he's not supposed to be. Orton and Roode have similar movesets which is why their match was so even. Roode's in the wrong spot at the right time I guess.
DinosaurJones 03.12.18	I fear Rusev is just gonna get Zack Ryder'd though.
DropTune 03.12.18	Unfortunately he's on the right track. I still like Ryder though. Just because he was dealt a bad hand doesn't mean it's his fault. He's still in my top 10.
bloc 03.12.18	"I fear Rusev is just gonna get Zack Ryder'd though." Good point, and it seems like it's already in motion. He starts getting hot organically, merch starts selling like mad, and then he disappears off tv. Now they're putting him up against Nak (which is already a bad idea because the crowd won't cheer for both) and losing.
DinosaurJones 03.12.18	Punishing a guy who got over on his own merit really seems like such a terrible business model.
bloc 03.12.18	I knoooow, it's one thing I will never understand with WWE. The opportunity for huge ratings and more money has been handed to them for free and they instead choose to squash it. How freakin hard is it to write him or anyone else getting over into a new or currently existing storyline for fuck's sake. They have 30 fuckin writers lmao
DropTune 03.12.18	WWE's mentality is trends don't last. They screwed over Ryder for that reason along with stealing the spotlight from Cena. WWE doesn't like guys who get famous without permission. Their saying is "know your role." Every wrestler plays a role. Whether or not they get over is aside from the question. Roman Reigns' role is to be the top dog. Tye Dillinger's role is to job to the stars. Dillinger has more charisma than Reigns. Does that mean Dillinger should be the top guy? Obviously not because Dillinger isn't experienced enough to carry that mantle. I'm not saying Reigns should be the top guy, but let's be honest here. Rusev's role is to be an imposing adversary. He is the hypothetical immovable object in this scenario. WWE will put him over anyone, make him look dominant, and then let Nakamura or Cena beat him to make their characters look strong.
DinosaurJones 03.12.18	Speaking of Dillinger, I read that they're keeping him off of TV because they don't like the "10" chants. I hope that's not true, but either way, it's lame that he's not being used.
bloc 03.12.18	Haha, yet they put him as #10 on that (now pointless) SD list. They also told the ring announcers to stop pausing after "one fall" to prevent the crowd from doing the "ONE FALLLLL" chant ffs
DinosaurJones 03.12.18	I guess they just don't want another "WHAT" chant on their hands. To be fair, that's the worst thing SCSA ever did.
bloc 03.12.18	Yeah that shit is the worst of them and is actually harmful unlike some of the other ones. I feel so bad for whoever is in the ring when that chant starts coming up, it's like a second hand embarrassment. At least the CM PUNK chants have kinda died...I think lol
DinosaurJones 03.12.18	My favorite use of the "WHAT" chant was when they were chanting it at Undertaker, back when he was doing the Big Evil gimmick "WHAT" You know, why don't you say "WHAT" if you sleep with your sister? "WHA--... BOOOOOOO!!!"
bloc 03.12.18	Lmao that's classic. Yeah when guys are able to turn on the crowd, that is a sign of brilliance. I love those moments. Bliss also did something similar with "say WHAT if you're a failure" last year I think and it was amazing.
Storm In A Teacup 03.13.18	Omg the Bar defend the tag titles at Wrestlemania against These Hands
ExhaleTheLight 03.13.18	I would love for Strowman to tag with Elias
DinosaurJones 03.13.18	Vince is finally starting to look really old.
DropTune 03.13.18	I don't mind crowd chants so much. "One fall" is an NXT chant anyways. WWE screwed Dillinger when they drafted him. He should have stayed in NXT for a bit longer. At least he got to wrestle Styles.
bloc 03.13.18	Agreed Vince looked old as hell but damn that was a brilliant segment. Loved the shoot style stuff they've been doing for Roman. The opening segment on Raw was like his best non-wrestling segment ever. The guy killed it. And as much as I don't wanna see Undertaker, Cena's segment was amazing. Man the guy can talk.
DinosaurJones 03.13.18	I wonder if they're gonna be all "You're not fighting the Undertaker, you made this personal, you're fighting MARK CALAWAY" *shock and awe* They're doing all this fourth wall breaking on RAW now, I can see that happening. I just hope they don't go too overboard with these shoot style segments, because it really is a fine line.
bloc 03.13.18	Yeah, I think they're just doing it to build up WM. And also to get Roman more over. Once WM is over, I'm sure things will be back to normal. Ugh, the NXT Takeover card though, especially that 6 way ladder match for the NA title, looks beyond godly.
DinosaurJones 03.13.18	That 6 way ladder match is going to be insanity. I'm personally pulling for Velveteen Dream, but all of those guys are pretty great.
bloc 03.13.18	I wish they could all win that match, seriously
ExhaleTheLight 03.13.18	Adam Cole >>>
DropTune 03.13.18	It's hard to predict the NXT card. All of the contestants seem credible enough to pull it off. NXT is looking to push Lars sooner or later. He may not be an in-ring genius, but he's entertaining as hell. Velveteen Dream is going to breakout this year for sure. Ricochet will most-likely contain the NA belt for a good while. I see EC3 and Adam Cole in the NXT title picture very soon. Dain and the rest of Sanity need to shoot to the main roster sometime soon.
bloc 03.13.18	Lars is entertaining, but I think he needs more time in NXT. Hell, I just want them all to stay in NXT lol. Most of them fail when brought up to the big leagues. Given the entire card, this Takeover has potential to be the best ever. But tbh, I am not too big on the idea of wrestlers debuting in matches that they aren't gonna win. This is gonna be the case with EC3 and Ricochet debuting in the same match.
ExhaleTheLight 03.13.18	I would think the next NXT champ would be Aleister Black. I don't believe he's suffered a clean loss ever since he debuted (unless I'm wrong). I also think the Gargano, Ciampa storyline would be a main focus throughout this year. If one team is gonna debut, I hope its the Authors of Pain. I want them to be the ones to dethrone the usos
DinosaurJones 03.14.18	John Cena & Nikki Bella vs Mark Calaway & Michelle McCool
bloc 03.14.18	^kill me Is it just me, or was the last Raw literally the best Raw in years.
DinosaurJones 03.14.18	I'll fully admit I didn't watch it. I only saw the first segment, and Braun winning a tag team title shot by himself.
bloc 03.14.18	Dude...the fuckin 2 part Nia and Alexa segment was godly. Like, it pushed the line.
DinosaurJones 03.14.18	Oh, I saw some of that as well. Only the part where Nia was still in the ring and it cut to Alexa and Mickie talking shit backstage. So I'm guessing that was only the first part.
bloc 03.14.18	Oh... Well that was the good part then I guess. Did you see them dip when Nia left the ring looking for them? Nia is a damn good actress. She's been impressing me a lot this year.
DinosaurJones 03.14.18	Yeah, I feel like she was called up too early, but she's improved a ton since then. Also, I listened to the episode of Talk is Jericho with her and it definitely made me more endeared towards her.
DropTune 03.14.18	I never had an issue with Nia Jax as a performer. She's limited, yes, but she's brutal. She's underrated in the sense that she has a lot more to offer than being a shoe-in. Alexa shouldn't be in the spot she's in, but she has also impressed me with carrying the division for as long as she has. I'm mostly surprised Bayley and Sasha are relegated to the mid-card. That to me is strange. Smackdown has a more in-depth women's roster, but RAW's is more credible I guess. I hate the current roster tiers. I feel like RAW and SMACKDOWN switched places. RAW is the current best show. It's so weird saying that.
bloc 03.15.18	Ugh Smackdown def needs more stars for sure. Bring Joe back to Raw, and then bring Rollins and Balor to SD and it would be gold. Imagine the possibilities with Styles, Rollins, and Balor on the same show. Alexa is def the best female on the mic, it's insane how good she is.
kris. 03.15.18	rusev fucking owns my roommate's getting me into this shit real hard. i haven't watched wrestling since like the late 90s when i was a little kid but man this is entertaining as hell.
bloc 03.15.18	Happy Rusev Day, kris. Welcome.
DropTune 03.15.18	Happy Rusev Day to all of you. Now for Kris' homework assignment. You need to watch: CM Punk vs John Cena (Money in the Bank), DIY vs. Author's of Pain (NXT Takeover), Andrade "Cien" Almas vs. Johnny Gargano (NXT Takeover), AJ Styles vs. John Cena (Royal Rumble), Aleister Black vs. Velveteen Dream (NXT Takover), Undisputed Era vs. Sanity w/ Roderick Strong vs. Authors of Pain (NXT Takeover), AJ Styles vs. Finn Balor (TLC), Brock Lesnar vs. AJ Styles (Survivor Series), Bobby Roode vs. Shinsuke Nakamura (NXT Takeover), The Usos vs. New Day (Hell in a Cell), Brock Lesnar vs. Roman Reigns vs. Samoa Joe vs. Braun Strowman (Summerslam). That should be enough for now.
kris. 03.15.18	holy SHIT, okay i'm on it.
kris. 03.15.18	this cena v punk match is fucking INSANE.
DinosaurJones 03.15.18	Daaaaaamn. Happy Rusev Day!
DropTune 03.15.18	Cena vs. CM Punk is perhaps the single best WWE storyline in recent history. This will catch you up on all of the hype surrounding CM Punk. The match was granted the rare 5 star rating for its exceptional storytelling and wrestling quality. Gargano vs. Almas was the first 5 star match of NXT and only other 5 star WWE match in 7 years. The match is also praised for its stellar performance by both men. The two matches are very important in demonstrating the current direction of WWE at the moment. If any, watch these two first so you can see the difference between wrestling and sports-entertainment.
DinosaurJones 03.15.18	I hear the Revival have caught heat for calling themselves wrestlers on RAW and deriding "sports entertainment." Lord forbid. That said, I'm still in sympathy pain from that disgusting bump that Woods took on the steel steps.
DropTune 03.15.18	It has a pretty shady history Dino. "Sports-entertainment" is the PC way of saying pro-wrestling. Vince McMahon has a theory that "pro-wrestling" has a negative connotation to the word. By saying "sports-entertainment," one acknowledges that wrestling is fake nor is it wrestling at all. Throughout the history of wrestling, many would call it rasslin' as a way to make fun the redneck audience. Pro-wrestling was the fun way of referring to the sport. The whole backstage crap you refer to is garbage. It's all meant for headlines. I don't pick on Dave Meltzer that much, but even his stuff flip-flops between real and TMZ headlines. WWE won't let the press report something they don't want. Most of it is fake or non-issues meant to bury wrestlers through a fan perspective.
bloc 03.15.18	You mean from the promo before Raw 25? I thought that was just scripted for them so they'd get their asses kicked by DX the week after? I did think it was odd they were allowed to use the w-word on tv though.
DinosaurJones 03.15.18	Do they even acknowledge that WWE stands for World Wrestling Entertainment anymore, or are they just like KFC where the acronym doesn't actually mean anything?
ExhaleTheLight 03.15.18	Well that explains why there was a stupid battle royal to determine which superstar will be the next KFC Colonel.
DinosaurJones 03.15.18	#Ziggler4Colonel
bloc 03.15.18	lmao He's earning that KFC money AND Cricket Wireless money
ExhaleTheLight 03.15.18	What was the point of this Dolph Ziggler storyline anyways? I feel like it was just wasted.
DinosaurJones 03.15.18	He's also one of the highest paid in the company now. Good for him.
ExhaleTheLight 03.15.18	Also, I'm really salty with this WM34 main event. Roman Reigns is gonna be what the 3rd guy ever since Lesnar returned? I swear WWE picks the wrong guys to beat him. Instead of Cena and Triple H it should've been Punk and Ambrose.
bloc 03.15.18	It's just not believable though, when looking at it from a physical perspective. Even I would be like "yeah...right". It's the same reason why I didn't think Balor vs. Lesnar was ever a good idea.
DinosaurJones 03.15.18	Also, if they go with Reigns and Lesnar as the main event, this will be the 4th main event in a row at WM for Reigns
ExhaleTheLight 03.15.18	Which is why Cena and Taker should close the show. But then again with Lesnar, I guess i'm a big Ambrose fanboy. Which is why when he returns I truly believe he will dominate the later half of 2018 with a big push no matter if he's a face or heel
ExhaleTheLight 03.15.18	And those matches with Punk and Ambrose were believable because they were no DQ matches, which gave the credibility than anyone of those men can win
bloc 03.15.18	There's a rumor that the Rousey match may close the show this year. That's fine, but I do think the Charlotte vs. Asuka should be near the end too, as it's pretty fuckin huge and those 2 ladies deserve it.
DinosaurJones 03.15.18	No no no no no no. The only proper worker in that match is HHH, and even that's debatable. Kurt has given no evidence that he can really go in the ring anymore, Rousey is green as hell, and Steph is by no means a good worker either. That would be a very bad idea.
ExhaleTheLight 03.15.18	I would love for the Ladies to close. The asuka match specifically. Having Rousey headline just kills the credibility of the division, plus the match doesn't seem too interesting. Puts Trips in the spotlight again and boosts his ego
DinosaurJones 03.15.18	Agreed that Asuka vs Charlotte could close. Those two are insanely good workers, and will probably put on a better show than most of the other matches on the card.
ExhaleTheLight 03.15.18	Plus it boosts the division, first women's royal rumble and the first women's match that headlines WrestleMania.
bloc 03.15.18	WWE wouldn't stop gloating over it being the first ever again and again, but I agree it would legitimately boost the entire division. Even having Nia winning (which I am sure she will) is a big boost.
Storm In A Teacup 03.15.18	they need to pull the trigger on Asuka vs Charlotte agreed. potential for a 5 star match. imagine if Charlotte beat Asuka clean and Asuka beat her at Summerslam after a bloody feud. I'd have them both start a feud on Raw the very next night after Mania.
ExhaleTheLight 03.15.18	I'm probably the only one who would want Bliss to retain. She started out pretty mediocre to then become one of the best workers on the roster. Nia jax is cool but it was only just recently she started to receive a good push
Storm In A Teacup 03.15.18	upper card wrestlers only: people in 2018 who could never believably win any match against Lesnar: Roman Reigns, CM Punk, Finn Balor, Kurt Angle, Triple H, John Cena people who could believably beat Brock Lesnar in a regular match for a title: Braun Strowman, Big E, AJ Styles, Dolph Ziggler people who could believably beat Brock Lesnar for a title in a street fight: Seth Rollins with curb stomps, Finn Balor with Balor Club helping, Big E with New Day helping, Braun Strowman, Dolph Ziggler fans don't easily forget the best moments of wrestling. Ziggler beat Kane, Luke Harper, and The Golden Boy era Seth Rollins in the same night. Ziggler is paid money for a reason and not just for good matches.
ExhaleTheLight 03.15.18	Ziggler is an asset to get people over IMO. That's why he's paid so much. He hasn't had a push in a good while
bloc 03.15.18	Imagine the idea of Asuka vs. Charlotte closing WM, and Carmella successfully cashing in on the champ at the end. Now that is gonna stir shit up lol
DropTune 03.15.18	That won't make any sense. Carmella, being the *first* woman to win the women's Mitb, getting buried by Asuka? WWE might as well given James Ellsworth the briefcase. They screwed themselves this time. Awful decisions...
bloc 03.15.18	Carmella has so much dang potential, but the timing is really really bad yeah. There are rumors that she is agreeing to do a failed cash in at WM.
ExhaleTheLight 03.15.18	Well the Rollins cash in pushed him all the way to the top and was his big break. Maybe they're thinking they can do the same for Carmella at the expense of Asuka's streak?
bloc 03.15.18	Duuuuude, the internet would explode if that happened
DinosaurJones 03.15.18	Ooof, that would get her some major heat for sure. She herself never had much heat, it was all Ellsworth.
ExhaleTheLight 03.15.18	The internet also exploded when Lesnar broke the Streak, look where we are at now
DinosaurJones 03.15.18	Lesnar hasn't given a shit for the past 3 years now though. I feel like Carmella at least still has a passion for the business.
bloc 03.15.18	Carmella deserves a push for sure, but not at the expense of Asuka's streak. If anything, have Charlotte beat Asuka in a long and brutal match, and have Carmella cash in on her.
Storm In A Teacup 03.15.18	Carmella's dad wrestled on the first episode of Monday Night Raw.
DinosaurJones 03.15.18	WRESTLING IS IN HER BLOOD
Storm In A Teacup 03.15.18	im all for carmella cashing in successfully on Asuka. just do it.
DinosaurJones 03.15.18	YESTERDAY YOU SAID TOMORROW DON'T LET YOUR DREAMS BE DREAMS JUST... DO IT
Storm In A Teacup 03.15.18	TURN YOUR DREAMS INTO MEMES
DropTune 03.16.18	Carmella is in an odd place. She isn't technically skilled enough to be credible in ring. Her charisma is overrated. Crowd reactions to her have been dead. Defeating Asuka to win the women's title would be WWE's worst option. Why piss away a legit legend to make room for Carmella? If Ember Moon were to defeat Asuka, that would be justified. Both have a storied history, put on good matches, and would MAKE SENSE. Carmella hasn't put forth any matches to make her seem like a threat. I don't think WWE would have Carmella go over Asuka like that. If anything -- WWE should draft Carmella to RAW and make her briefcase guaranteed for the RAW title as well.
DinosaurJones 03.16.18	I just want another Becky Lynch push.
bloc 03.16.18	Agreed DT. And another reason why Carmella isn't credible is because she was barely on tv in the past few months.
DropTune 03.16.18	WWE doesn't seem to like Becky Lynch. I really hate how they established their roster. First they start pushing Becky, Sasha, Paige, Bayley, and Charlotte. Now they knocked 4 of them down a peg, kept Charlotte, and replaced them with Asuka, Carmella, Alexa Bliss, and Nia Jax. If I were tiering WWE, it would be: Asuka, Charlotte, Sasha, Bayley, and Alexa Bliss.
bloc 03.16.18	I hear the reason why she isn't pushed is because Vince hates her accent
DropTune 03.16.18	That's an ongoing rumor. I'm sure it holds merit in some form, but I wouldn't assume her accent be the reason why. Pushing someone requires an investment of time and money. Are you willing to stake your company on [insert wrestler here]? In that mindset, WWE makes their decisions. WWE obviously feels like Carmella is more marketable and reliable than Becky Lynch for some reason. After all, they're willing to put her over the entire SMACKDOWN women's division to prove a point. I'd rather Liv Morgan take the briefcase in that instance. At least she can do a diving cross-body.
bloc 03.17.18	Yeah Liv Morgan is fuckin money
DropTune 03.17.18	I'm not a huge Liv fan. Although I've seen her live many times, I can't really say she's anything special. She's a good midcarder and attains novelty value. Otherwise, her and Carmella are the same.
bloc 03.17.18	Yeah there is a huuuuge similarity, so I think it's best to keep them on different brands. And even though her ring skill is not the best, everything else about her is pure money right down to her damn name. Like I can totally see her merch having all these "Liv" puns like "Liv Life" or "Liv it Up"...that shit will sell man
DropTune 03.17.18	She's like a cross between Carmella and Alexa Bliss. She has the demented cheerleader look of Bliss with the style of Carmella.
bloc 03.17.18	Yep, that is a perfect description
DropTune 03.17.18	They should have called up Iconic Duo instead.
DinosaurJones 03.17.18	They're waiting until they rest up from their, er... "enhancements."
bloc 03.17.18	Damn Kay got a boob job, didn't even know that
DropTune 03.17.18	Heh, I guess they're new tag finisher will be the treasure chest.
DropTune 03.17.18	their*
PayneTiger777 03.17.18	Am I the only one that is angry by the fact that the winner of the Royal Rumble is not truly in the main event? I thought that was tradition and now the WWE likes to screw around with that. Shinsuke vs AJ is definitely Wrestlemania main even worthy.
Storm In A Teacup 03.17.18	i mean, this is how things have always worked. vince does what vince wants. that's the only tradition i know of so, yes, you're possibly the only one angry. we just wish things were different but it will go however it goes.
Storm In A Teacup 03.17.18	tbh, "I just want another Becky Lynch push" (2)
bloc 03.17.18	Because AJ and Nak are on SD they will never be the "true" main event. Especially since you still have Lesnar and Rousey now in the mix, who are seen as bigger stars by the WWE. As long as the AJ match is within the last 4 matches, I think it's good enough. I think it would be disrespectful to them and the title if it was any earlier in the card.
Spec 03.17.18	There won’t be another Becky push cause Kevin Dunn hates her accent.
bloc 03.17.18	Fuckin Bucky Beaver
Storm In A Teacup 03.17.18	now she's Dunn it
DropTune 03.18.18	WWE has odd quirks about why they don't like someone. They didn't like Christian because of his face, Wade Barrett (still unknown why), or Zack Ryder. Becky Lynch's case is even more odd. She literally put on one of the greatest women's matches in WWE history, yet she puts over Carmella? Sure, let's go with that. Carmella is obviously so much more credible. Not only can she moonwalk, she can trash talk! Whoa, I'm so impressed! Look guys, she can do a bronco buster! I'm so intrigued by her New Jersey accent and her inconsistent wrestling attire. Jokes aside, she's leagues ahead of Lana and Eva Marie. At this point, I kinda wish Lana took her place. At least she has Ruru to back her up.
ExhaleTheLight 03.18.18	Can't wait until Trips takes over.
DinosaurJones 03.18.18	It's funny that Rusev used to need Lana to get over. Now it's the complete opposite.
DropTune 03.18.18	I'm not fully sold on Triple H taking over. NXT and main roster are different. Sure NXT is great, but RAW and SMACKDOWN don't compare. Triple H won't book them the same. There will be a slight difference more than anything. Considering how main roster viewers react to most NXT call-ups, I highly doubt anything will change.
DinosaurJones 03.19.18	I just hope he'll actually listen to fan reactions
ExhaleTheLight 03.19.18	This and he will push the right guys
DropTune 03.19.18	He'll do the same thing Vince does to be honest. He might do his own thing for a bit, but eventually he'll cycle back to it.
bloc 03.19.18	Dude he turned NXT and 205 into solid gold
DinosaurJones 03.19.18	Regardless of your feelings on RR, he gets a hell of a reaction. Good, bad, I think they just care that people are making noise. There always have to be main event guys, midcard guys, and lowcard guys, but there used to be storylines for all of them. It hasn't been like that in a lonnggggg time though.
DropTune 03.19.18	NXT and 205 Live are very similar. They're a bunch of indie guys shoved in a WWE ring. NXT is WWE's twist on the indies where 205 Live is WWE's sorry attempt at the X-Division. Don't get me wrong, I like 205 Live, but I don't like it's purpose. WWE wanted 205 Live to have the appeal of NXT on a grander scale. NXT wasn't meant to be in sold out arenas, but 205 Live was. 205 Live was marketed as some elite division of skilled wreslters, but in reality, they were a bunch of cruiserweights few have heard of. They were treated like a side show with none of their skill being put on display, and worst of all, putting Enzo Amore over. 205 Live has no excuse to suck, but WWE didn't want it to overshadow RAW. It's easy to make 205 Live good. All they have to do is wrestle. I could have turned 205 Live to gold if I felt like it. Triple H has a good eye for talent, but management is another story. He's not really calling the shots. If you guys payed attention, NXT was comprised of Dusty Rhodes and other wrestling legends writing the script. Of course, Dusty isn't there any more, now it's a bunch of former TNA and indie wrestlers putting it on. Triple H just gives his approval. The same works for 205 Live. That's why I'm not confident he can actually fix things.
DinosaurJones 03.19.18	Put Paul Heyman back in the writing room.
DropTune 03.19.18	Easier said than done considering he and Vince don't like each other.
DinosaurJones 03.19.18	Yeahhhhhhh... I know. I'm sure Vince doesn't want him involved in the creative process. But I'm sure even Vince realizes what a gem that man is on the mic, which is why he's still around.
DropTune 03.19.18	Paul Heyman is good when he has a safety net. Heyman understands wrestling as a show where Vince McMahon understands it as a business. Both Vince and Heyman need a guy who can tell them, "your idea is garbage" when necessary. They need a helper to keep them in check. Heyman doesn't want Vince to be that guy and vice-versa. WWE's ECW reboot was a perfect example of that situation. That's why WWE will *never* let Heyman take the lead.
ExhaleTheLight 03.20.18	Ultimate deletion did not dissappoint.
Storm In A Teacup 03.20.18	It was certainly better than this debate about Triple H.
DropTune 03.20.18	I'm surprised WWE went ahead with it. I thought they'd ignore it and be like "it's not creative enough."
DinosaurJones 03.20.18	WWE just officially cleared Bryan Danielson to return to in-ring competition
Storm In A Teacup 03.20.18	Im gonna have to start watching again starting today with Smackdown. Finally Miz and Bryan can end their feud and we can see Daniel wrestle so many.
ExhaleTheLight 03.21.18	I was never the biggest D-Bry fan but I'm glad he's cleared. This changes the whole landscape of WWE
Storm In A Teacup 03.21.18	WrestleMania AJ Styles vs Shinsuke Nakamura Brock Lesnar vs Roman Reigns Charlotte vs Asuka Nia Jax vs Alexa Bliss HHH & Stephanie vs Kurt Angle(!) & RRR The Bar vs These Hands The Usos vs New Day vs Brothers of Hammers Matt Hardy vs new gimmick Bray Wyatt Bobby Roode (!) vs Randy Orton vs Hinder Mahal Miz vs Finn Balor vs Seth Rollins Hideo Itami vs Mustafa Ali Kevin Owens & Sami Zayn vs Shane McMahon and Daniel Bryan (!!!) Andre The Giant Battle Royale WrestleMania Womens Battle Royale The Undertaker vs John Cena holy crap...I actually hope we get one or two more random feud storyline matches on the precard but if not it's still a fucking gigantic card! those random feud stories i want will probably just be random people feuding in the two battle royales.
rufinthefury 03.21.18	Braun Strowman needs a tag team partner hmmmmm
DinosaurJones 03.21.18	If Braun's partner isn't Elias, I'll eat my hat.
DinosaurJones 03.21.18	Also, gotta love Daniel Bryan. Gets medically cleared to get back into the ring, immediately takes a powerbomb on the ring apron. And I'm unsure if they'll have another Hardy/Wyatt match at WM. They probably blew the feud off here so that they can free up space, and they'll just shove them into the Battle Royal, if Wyatt is even brought back by then.
ExhaleTheLight 03.21.18	Even with the stacked card I'm not looking forward to WM34. Some of the matches to look good on paper but the way WWE had been booking The Road to Wrestlemania for these storylines is horrid.
bloc 03.21.18	You guys see the Rhonda segment that aired during (or after, can't remember) Ultimate Deletion with Dana Brooke. A lot of people are calling it hard cringe. It's on WWE's youtube channel.
DinosaurJones 03.21.18	I did not. They probably fed Dana to Rousey tho, right? Not that I'm a huge fan of Dana Brooke, but even so, I do find it irritating that they'll likely let Rousey dominate the division just because of her apparent drawing power.
bloc 03.21.18	Yes, it was definitely a feeding. Things got physical. But seeing Rhonda get physical this time certainly left a bad taste in people's mouths. There's a part where Dana advances to hit her, but Rhonda blocks her with one arm and she looks like a power range lol. You have to see it to believe it.
DinosaurJones 03.21.18	Oh man, now I have to see it.
bloc 03.21.18	I also feel like Bryan has been cleared for weeks now and he's basically been working the crowd this entire time. Why they chose to tell everyone now is anyone's guess. And ugh they need to bring back James Ellesworth to be Braun's partner. That shit would be comedic gold.
DinosaurJones 03.21.18	Possibly. You can definitely feel the dude's passion though. It's nice to see someone so genuine in the ring like that. That would actually be pretty funny. If it weren't for the Women's match at WM, I could also see him trying to pull Alexa as his partner too, since they're technically already a team.
DropTune 03.21.18	Never was a huge Dana or Rousey fan. I am looking forward to WM. The card is actually legit for once. I guarantee the matches will be horrible. At least the Cruiserweight match will be lit.
DinosaurJones 03.21.18	That Cruiserweight match better not be on the kickoff. And they better give it a decent chunk of time. If anything, both battle royals should be on the kickoff, because let's be honest, they're just there for the people that don't have anything else to do.
Storm In A Teacup 03.22.18	Agreed on many of yalls opinions
DropTune 03.22.18	NXT last night was pretty good. Still waiting for Ricochet to finally debut. I don't know how beating Aliyah is an achievement for Ember Moon, but okay. Adam Cole continues to put on stellar bouts. I was also surprised at how physical the tag match was. Lorcan and Burch gave Strong and Dunn a challenge surprisingly.
DinosaurJones 03.22.18	Not to be harsh on Ember Moon, but I feel like now with the 4 Horsewomen/Asuka/Bliss on the main roster, the NXT women's roster feels a bit anemic/lackluster compared to how it used to be. I think it also has to do with the build that those women were given, but it sure doesn't feel like it used to. I still love Kairi Sane & Nikki Cross though.
bloc 03.22.18	Nikki Cross is low key like the hottest woman on the entire roster eh
DinosaurJones 03.22.18	She reminds me of a more psychotic Katie Lea, who I also found uncomfortably attractive
bloc 03.22.18	Oh yeah she was hot too. But have you seen Nikki Cross like normal and outside of her gimmick? God damn what a charmer.
DinosaurJones 03.22.18	I have not, but I'm sure I would be smitten, haha.
WetHarmonica1916 03.22.18	Daniel Bryan vs Miz, IC Title, Book it NOW. Would love to see Bryan show Miz how to properly do those kicks to the chest lol.
DinosaurJones 03.22.18	I have to imagine they'll get back around to Miz vs Daniel Bryan... People STILL talk about that Talking Smack segment (and for good reason)
rufinthefury 03.22.18	just realized ive jammed TWRP's Ladyworld for like 2 years now and never noticed it was on this list
DinosaurJones 03.22.18	More people should jam Ladyworld, tbh
bloc 03.22.18	Wrestling is a man's world though
DinosaurJones 03.22.18	Eh, I'm pretty sure almost all of the women in WWE could kick my ass. And I don't mean because I'd let them, I mean legitimately.
bloc 03.22.18	No shame in that, they'd kick mine too lol
rufinthefury 03.22.18	I bet I could take on Alicia Fox
bloc 03.22.18	No fair, she's recovering from injury
DropTune 03.22.18	The NXT women's roster is different, but far from weak. They aren't as famous, but they don't drag in-ring. NXT was purged (pun intended) during the draft. They took all of their women before priming the roster to take their place. Although Asuka, Cross, and Ember rose up, no one else did. Dakota Kai, Lacey Evans, Rhea Ripley, and Kairi Sane are all talented, but lack star power. Now that they're rebuilding, it's too little too late.
ExhaleTheLight 03.22.18	Time to put the title on Aleister Black
Storm In A Teacup 03.23.18	Love y'all
DinosaurJones 03.23.18	< 3 Storm
bloc 03.23.18	We're a close knit group on this thread indeed haha
DinosaurJones 03.23.18	damn, we passed the 2 year anniversary for this one and I didn't notice.
bloc 03.23.18	Awesome. This thread has been been bumping almost every day now for a while, and I hope that continues past WM too.
DinosaurJones 03.26.18	How long before Bray Wyatt comes back as Sister Abigail and dominates the women's division, only to finally be defeated by Nia Jax?
bloc 03.26.18	Lmao, I just hope he gets repackaged. Better yet have him be Broken Bray or some shit and join the Woken gang
ExhaleTheLight 03.27.18	Broken Bray, Brother Nero led by Woken Matt, dominating the tag teams and mid card division Bray betrays Matt, throws him into the lake of reincarnation, Broken Matt arises
DinosaurJones 03.27.18	Matt Hardy V1 returns, cuts weight, goes to 205 Live (I don't think Matt will ever be that light again)
ExhaleTheLight 03.27.18	It does bring the star power that 205 needed. With the direction its in right now, the product is better than lets say months ago.
DinosaurJones 03.27.18	Well yeah, they're finally able to wrestle, and no offense to them, but that's pretty much all they've got going for them. The attempts to make them into characters was generally a failure, with some exceptions.
ExhaleTheLight 03.27.18	Except the king of the Power Point slides.
DropTune 03.27.18	Glad to see 205 Live on this weeks episode of RAW. RAW itself was rather forgettable. Nothing important happened. Kane and Cena are an awful in-ring combo. Their styles are too different and mesh horribly. Kane is a slow worker and Cena is more of a mid-pace kind of guy. Kane hasn't been an in-ring threat in many years. He's underrated as a performer, but he's terrible against a guy like Cena.
Storm In A Teacup 03.27.18	it's too bad Shane has diverticulitis now. I hear it's gonna be Team Hell No vs Sami and KO
DinosaurJones 03.27.18	Oh damn, I didn't know that was going on with Shane, that sucks. They've been building this for months.
BallsToTheWall 03.27.18	Good to see Paige back.
ExhaleTheLight 03.27.18	Team Hell No was the best thing Kane has done since returning with the mask.
bloc 03.28.18	Wow that thing about Shane for real?? Man that sucks. Explains the walrus noises when he took that hard bump at the end of Smackdown a few weeks ago.
DropTune 03.28.18	Smackdown's issue is the show is fundamentally broken. You have 4 or 5 top guys, 2 top women, and the rest of your roster is left to die. The fundamentals of Smackdown are awful. There's no depth or balance to anything. AJ Styles is virtually invincible compared to everyone else. He has to make his opponents look good because no one poses a real threat. Shinsuke is their best bet, but they've just recently gave enough of a damn to build him as imposing. All honesty, Shinsuke and Styles should be tearing up Smackdown at this moment. They're the best wrestlers WWE has going for them. RAW is too top heavy with their high card division being the most fleshed out. Their midcard division sticks out like a sore thumb.
DropTune 03.28.18	(Cont.) Point is - with all things considered, at least Wrestlemania looks interesting. I just hope once the draft hits, WWE tiers their roster correctly. Nothing coherently works in Smackdown's advantage. RAW is too crowded and Smackdown is too empty. There needs to be some sort of balance so both shows have a chance.
DinosaurJones 03.28.18	that's kind of crazy to me because Smackdown was so hot after the brand split, and for awhile, it was clearly the superior show. I don't know what happened, but it deflated fast. I think you're right though... it seems like there is no midcard on SD. The midcard consists of... Rusev & Roode, really. Everyone else is treated like a "top guy," and if you aren't in the tag division or one of those guys, you kind of look like garbage.
DropTune 03.28.18	Smackdown is entirely the mid card leftovers. Roode and Rusev are the leaders of that division. Kevin Owens, who is normally in a mid-ish position, is treated in a similar fashion to Seth Rollins on RAW. He's like the #2 guy essentially. Shinsuke was a Smackdown mid carder for a while. Smackdown's mid card division consists of Jinder, Baron, Sami Zayn, Roode, Rusev, and Dillinger. Their main event is Shinsuke, Styles, Owens, and Orton. (continued in next post)
DropTune 03.28.18	It's impossible for Smackdown to go anywhere considering the divide between the mid and main card. Sami Zayn is the only guy who can work both. The others are stranded due to them being miscast for so long. No one is credible enough to take a top spot. WWE failed to properly integrate those stars to usurp the positions left behind by Dean Ambrose, Miz, Cena, and Bray Wyatt. Smackdown's previous roster had a lot of depth and chemistry among the wrestlers. The current Smackdown cast, aside from a select few, lack in all those categories. It's impossible to consider any sort of change without Smackdown spending enough time to develop their talents.
DinosaurJones 03.28.18	Their mixing of midcard/main event seems like it should be a boon, but instead it makes the entire thing seem muddied.
Storm In A Teacup 03.28.18	everyone here needs to check out A Music Blog, Yeah (AMBY) on Youtube. It's a wrestling and music interview show by this young 20s woman Alecia who is super knowledgeable in all wrestling and all music and she interviews someone prominent almost every day. I promise you will love the channel.
DinosaurJones 03.28.18	I shall check it.
bloc 03.28.18	Ah that's a great channel yeah. The interviewer is pretty too. Dino will like.
Storm In A Teacup 03.28.18	forewarning the Eli Drake interviews are biased AF cuz they're falling in love I think lol XD
DinosaurJones 03.28.18	I recently listened to a bunch of the Talk is Jericho podcast, that was pretty fun.
Storm In A Teacup 03.28.18	yeah i listened to a bunch of his shows a couple years ago and they were great. grew out of that show awhile ago though. i like to keep it fresh on my interviewers AMBY is up there in quality of questions and format. She's young too and her resume is already spectacular.
Storm In A Teacup 03.29.18	Daniel Bryan and Shane McMahon beat KO and Sami Zayn so they stay fired from Smackdown. No one knows Braun Strowman's partner until the match entrances. It's Daniel Bryan! Strowman and Bryan win by Daniel pinning Sheamus for past Mania revenge Daniel Bryan quits as Smackdown GM and goes to Raw Sami Zayn and KO are hired to be on Raw and start feuding with Daniel Bryan and Braun Strowman!
Storm In A Teacup 03.29.18	but the more likely and better scenario is Braun's partner being Alexa Bliss. Braun Strowman and Alexa Bliss beat Sheamus and Cesario at Wrestlemania for the tag team titles!
DropTune 03.29.18	I don't listen to many wrestling podcasts. Aside from WrestleTalk, I don't keep up with that stuff. Most aren't very credible on the subject. They (including WrestleTalk) reiterate everything Dave Meltzer releases, so I might as well skip the middleman and read his stuff. I'm not trying to pick on AMBY by writing this. I'm just saying why I don't usually look them up. I'll check out her channel sometime this week. I have my sources anyways.
DropTune 03.29.18	Now for my NXT Review: This weeks episode was pretty good. Lots of quick matches, but an otherwise packed hour of NXT. The best segment of the night belongs to our 1%'er EC3. Can't wait for his debut match at Takeover. He'll be NXT Champion in no time. We all knew Street Prophets were going to get buried sooner or later. They're too fresh to be thrust into a title match. Not a great match, but it served its purpose of knocking off the prophets while not making them look bad. Lars devoured his opponent. 'Nuff said, but at least he's back. Another great segment belongs to Andrade "Cien" Almas who viciously beat down Aleister. I didn't expect this to happen, but Almas' vicious side is his best. Aleister looks vulnerable for the first time in NXT. I still wonder who Dakota Kai wrestled. The main event was no doubt fantastic. It was a hard fought technically based showcase of the two teams. Strong and Dunne are unexpectedly great as a team. Sanity should be winding down anyways. They should go to the main roster in the upcoming draft. This weeks episode was a B-. Although segment filled, I enjoyed it for what it was. It was still better than RAW and SMACKDOWN this week.
bloc 03.29.18	Wrestling podcasts are pretty much the only podcasts I listen to haha. Solomonster, DTKC, What's Wrong With Wrestling, Goodmicwork, etc. Also, Storm if your predictions come true then Smackdown is gonna lose a lot of star power.
ExhaleTheLight 03.29.18	Speaking on smackdown again, they lost a lot of steam after the shakeup. Losing, Miz, Ambrose, Bliss, Slater and Rhyno killed the show because they had some good storylines. Especially the Slater storyline when he was trying to get signed.
bloc 03.29.18	Also on Smackdown, anyone notice how Naka's english was perfectly clear? Or at least ten times better than it was before. And I really liked everything he did too, especially at the end when he teased the knee to face with AJ. They should have started doing this stuff weeks ago.
ExhaleTheLight 03.29.18	WWE is hit or miss with building Face vs Face feuds
bloc 03.29.18	I kinda liked how he was acting a bit heelish too. Talking about being overly emotional and teasing the knee.
ExhaleTheLight 03.29.18	They don't have much time for a more epic build, especially with the dumb Fastlane title match build. I'm hyped regardless, it just makes me wonder how others feel about this match if they did not know the history between AJ and Nakamura
DinosaurJones 03.29.18	if judging by FB comments is anything to go by (a cesspool if there ever was one) Nakamura is boring and overrated because all he does is kick, and his English sucks, so he shouldn't be main eventing.
ExhaleTheLight 03.29.18	I guess those are the same people who don't watch NXT
DinosaurJones 03.29.18	Well yeah, they don't care about NXT because it's the minor leagues. Just because Asuka was undefeated in NXT, it's dumb that she's still undefeated after her callup because NXT isn't as good as RAW or SD... /s
bloc 03.29.18	She's gonna be fed to Rousey next WM, just watch
DinosaurJones 03.29.18	Ughhhhhh
bloc 03.29.18	Seems shitty now, but perhaps Rousey will make great strides from now until the next WM and become a believable opponent for Asuka
DinosaurJones 03.29.18	It's possible, but I guess we'll have to wait and see. I mean, someone's going to have to break the streak eventually.
DropTune 03.29.18	People who don't watch NXT have no right to complain about main roster issues. They literally haven't seen their development to that point. How are they fit to criticize? That's like reading the back cover of a book and complaining about how a movie isn't accurate to the novel. Those are also the same people who complain WWE has "too much wrestling" and detracts from the show. Don't get me started on this today.
DinosaurJones 03.29.18	Well yeah, they're the same people who say 205 live sucks, because the cruiserweights have no talent. That may not be your cup of tea, but to say there's no talent... wut.
Storm In A Teacup 03.29.18	I don't think anyone is saying there's no talent...wut. @bloc I think the Alexa Bliss and Braun tag team is more likely
Storm In A Teacup 03.29.18	Asuka and Rousey can just stay on separate rosters for at least 19 more months, issue solved
Storm In A Teacup 03.29.18	"That's like reading the back cover of a book and complaining about how a movie isn't accurate to the novel." are you rufinthefury?
bloc 03.31.18	Went to a house party yesterday and coincidentally met Alicia from AMBY lol. Very sweet and cool girl, and is genuinely a wrestling fan for sure. She ended up being a friend of my gf's friend who does photography for AMBY.
Storm In A Teacup 04.01.18	lmao thats super ironic
bloc 04.01.18	I know, it's a total mindfuck just thinking about it lol
DropTune 04.01.18	I Have yet to actually watch her content. As far as the main discussion, casual fans and devout fans are always going to argue over wrestling vs. segments. There's this argument going on about the 5 and 6 star match controversy. People are saying match quality won't get the product over. I completely disagree. It's possible to have both a good wrestling product and a good entertainment product. Bullet Club are living proof. Ring of Honor is living proof. Ring of Honor's entire product is being entertained by the match itself. Why the hell is there an argument about this?
DropTune 04.03.18	RAW last night was alright. Nothing too special happened aside from Rollins vs. Balor. Ronda Lousy was slammed through a table in what served to be a 'meh' segment. Bayley followed that up with a sloppy match against Sonya Deville. Of course, Balor and Rollins stole the show with another stellar performance. Brains Strowman made his debut in what was a classic Meltzer level 5 star performance. I'm not sure if Goldust vs. Matt Hardy is worth mentioning. At least Goldie is getting TV time. Cena ran his mouth and not so subtly hinted at the return of the American Badass. Elias obliterated Heath Slater, yet Elias' clothing is the most memorable part. His style is something I hope to emulate. Dana Brooke returned to the ring for the first time in years. I almost forgot she knew how to wrestle. Asuka carried the match to further establish her Wrestlemania debut. Then, of course, Lesnar decided to F5 Reigns at the end of the night. On the bright side, Reigns made it to Lesnar's 5th health bar! That counts, right?!? Certainly a C-level RAW. If not for Rollins vs. Balor, the night would have been forgettable.
ExhaleTheLight 04.03.18	Screw American Badass I Want Big Evil
bloc 04.03.18	Only watched Raw this week until Cena finished talking, so I'm not sure if something else happened later in the show, but I dig the build for it. They really didn't show Taker at all and that takes guts. Best solution now is after the HoF segment during Mania, have Kid Rock play a song or two then randomly go into the Badass theme and have Taker come out on his bike. Crowd would explode.
DinosaurJones 04.03.18	I agree that it was very bold to not have any indication of Undertaker returning. That said, I feel like the "dead man walking" line was a bit heavy-handed, but meh...
ExhaleTheLight 04.03.18	So when they fight at Mania, who the hell should walk away with the win?
bloc 04.03.18	That's the million dollar question. But speaking of, you know how there's that huge event taking place in Saudi Arabia this year? There's a rumor that Taker will make an appearance and that Cena is fighting HHH so who the hell knows haha
DinosaurJones 04.03.18	I really think Taker should walk away with the win. Honestly, his legacy has been beaten pretty hard with the 2 losses, and no other matches. With Cena's attacks on his pride, I feel like it would be best if he won.
ExhaleTheLight 04.03.18	Cena loses and he goes on hiatus again, just ruins his credibility even further as Super Cena is now Super Reigns. If Taker loses what's the point of him making a symbolic exit last year, ruining the streak even further
ExhaleTheLight 04.03.18	Plus I feel like the greatest royal rumble is a one off thing that won't matter much. Just WWE trying to fly high in a foreign market.
DinosaurJones 04.03.18	I read recently that Cena has lost almost all of his PPV matches over the past 2 years. I think he's won 6 of them.
bloc 04.03.18	Given the buildup so far, and with Cena acting "heelish" I am almost positive Taker will get the win. Doesn't make sense if it's the other way around.
DropTune 04.04.18	I wouldn't give Cena the W. Cena can take a loss. Sure Cena lost his pay-per-view matches, but what damage has it done? Cena bounces back after everything. Undertaker only gets 1 match a year. Cena gets 8 or 10. Undertaker should topple Cena and retire as being the man who beat the greatest of our generation.
DinosaurJones 04.04.18	Agreed. I also realize I'm going to be on vacation this Sunday and won't be able to watch WM... so I'm going to be staying out of here and off FB until I get to watch it on Tuesday... (that's probably a lie, but I'll try my best)
bloc 04.04.18	So it looks like the 2 royals and the cruiserweight match will be on the pre-show damn. The 2 royals is fine, but I wish the cruiserweight match got some respect and was put on the main show. Just put some filler on-the-spot match between the 2 royals.
bloc 04.04.18	Haha yeah, I'm gonna watch as much as I can on the weekend but I doubt I will be able to watch everything in one day so I will avoid forums and Youtube (those fuckin thumbnails alone can spoil everything) until I get through it all.
DinosaurJones 04.04.18	The Cruiser match should really be on the main show. I really think that either the Raw tag match or the Raw women's match should be on the pre-show, but that would kind of suck because they've put so much build into both Alexa and Braun.
bloc 04.04.18	I know, I couldn't think of any other match that could be on the pre-show either. On paper, it's clearly the US title match but given the star power of it, it doesn't make sense in reality.
DinosaurJones 04.04.18	Yeah, it would be the IC or US title matches, I would think.
bloc 04.04.18	Dude that IC match is gonna be siiiick, if the match on Raw was anything to go by. Shame that Miz's commentary overshadowed it way too much lol.
DinosaurJones 04.04.18	I honestly hope Rusev wins the US title, but in reality he was probably only added to the match to take the fall. Also, the IC title match should be great. Miz is likely losing so he can spend time with his baby, and I'm okay with either Balor or Rollins winning, tbh.
bloc 04.04.18	Oh yeah, I keep forgetting he's in it now lol. I'd love it if he won. With that international WM crowd, the pop would be epic. And agreed about the IC title. Love the Miz but this is a good time for him to be off the show. Get either of the other guys to win it and have em feud for a while, with Balor as the heel.
DinosaurJones 04.04.18	WM should be a good show overall... Hopefully Alexa vs Nia is kept short, AJ vs Nak is given a decent amount of time, the Undertaker isn't a crippled old man, and Shane wrestles a match without doing something insane/stupid. Also, I hope Becky wins the women's battle royal.
bloc 04.04.18	Agreed with everything. With the Taker/Cena build so far, I would not be surprised if it turns out to be a simple segment with the 2 in the ring and Taker just chokeslams Cena and leaves. Technically, it wouldn't be a "match"
DinosaurJones 04.04.18	Also, I haven't been keeping up, are they not doing Sasha vs Bayley? Are they just bumped into the battle royal?
bloc 04.04.18	Yep, it's been the only buildup for the women's royal. It def deserves a match, but the card is just way too crowded already. Therefore, I am expecting both of them to be in the final 4, if not final 2.
DropTune 04.04.18	There's only about 9 matches confirmed for WM. If the pre-show wasn't as long, it would be a lot better. A 2 hour pre-show is a lot to ask for. I hope Takeover: New Orleans doesn't overshadow WM again. I love NXT more than the main brands, but at the same time, it gets old watching NXT knockdown what's supposed to be the biggest wrestling event of the year. It's sad and joyful at the same time.
DinosaurJones 04.04.18	I def agree that the 2 hour preshow is too much. I think the event itself, including the preshow is too long in general, but that's just the nature of the beast at this point.
calmrose 04.04.18	they better let AJ and Nak go full out and allow them at least a 30 minute match (would love 45+) like Cena and Punk at MITB 2011
BallsToTheWall 04.04.18	Brains mother fucking Strowman. #PUSHBRAWN
kris. 04.04.18	guys this is gonna be my first wrestlemania and i'm so excited. this card is stackeeeedddddd.
DinosaurJones 04.04.18	They're not REALLY going to have Braun go into a handicap match... are they?
EyesWideShut 04.04.18	havent watched wrestling since the attitude era but do any of you guys listen to Stone Cold's podcast ? Really entertaining, I love when he talks about regular shit.
bloc 04.04.18	"They're not REALLY going to have Braun go into a handicap match... are they?" He has a twin you idiot, didn't you see Raw?
DinosaurJones 04.04.18	Yeah, well, have YOU ever seen Brains and Braun at the same time? I haven't! THAT'S ALL I'M SAYIN'
bloc 04.04.18	I'm still trying to figure out how the tattoo artist managed to draw the exact same tattoo on both of their arms. Now that is some really good hand-eye coordination.
ExhaleTheLight 04.04.18	There's been reports that taker might not fight Cena at Mania. That he is scheduled to appear though
Storm In A Teacup 04.05.18	and Aleister Black will come in and beat Cena in 5 seconds XD XD XD
Storm In A Teacup 04.05.18	there should be a half hour preshow starting off with the Nation Anthem, then fireworks, then announcer introductions, then storyline packages, then the actual show should be 4 and a half to 5 hours long
DropTune 04.05.18	WWE has this mentality that a 2 hour pre-show makes us think we're getting more for our money. The first hour will be entirely video packages and a bunch of trash. The second hour, which will air on USA for some reason, will probably have the better matches. It might get the 205 Live title match and the battle royals. Undertaker wrestling is one of those work/shoot things. WWE is trying to make their work look like a shoot. They've been doing this since January. They went out of their way to use Rey Mysterio as a red herring. Undertaker will no doubt show up to Wrestlemania. He might even wrestle. The speculation as to whether or not this will set up WM 35 is something else entirely. I wouldn't be surprised, but I also think its silly because there's no real reason for it. The feud isn't as hot as 'taker vs. Michaels, which made sense to build for a year.
Storm In A Teacup 04.05.18	i still think undertaker should come out and say "I've found a new streak coming from the darkness. You see John Cena? No man is every truly good...and no man is ever truly eveil"... and Aleister Black comes out and destroys Cena I'm gonna hype this up so much in my head anything that happen will disappoint XD
bloc 04.05.18	Wow that would be dope as hell tbh
DinosaurJones 04.05.18	That'd be fun. I think that Black is probably winning the NXT title as well.
Storm In A Teacup 04.06.18	Wrestle talk tv booked the idea on that one. They have undertaker coming back as the emissary for Aleister Black and after mania Aleister Black and Undertaker would have feuds with both Balor Club and Seth Rollins, but Undertaker would never wrestle, there would be others in the stable. Balor Club vs Ministry of Darkness with the McMahons and Triple H on opposite sides as well. The Seth Rollins feud would be because Seth's original name was Tyler Black. He was supposed to be Undertaker's successor but he turned away from the darkness and so Aleister Black replaced Tyler Black when he became Seth Rollins. Seth has known about this incoming threat since Aleister debuted on NXT and that's the real reason he reunited the Shield last year, in preparation....
Storm In A Teacup 04.06.18	this old guy i've worked with says he was a wwe wrestler and today he said he was there at Wrestlemania when Cena vs Undertaker happened the first time... I said they've never had a match at mania He was offended and said he would be one to know if it happened or not and not to insult him because he was actually there 0)_0)
kris. 04.06.18	ok ok i just signed up for the free WWE Network month, gonna watch probably WM 17 tonight because clearly it's the best. what else should i check out????
DropTune 04.06.18	Well Kris, I gave you a list of 5 star matches to watch. I would suggest catching up on NXT so you can watch NXT Takeover tomorrow night. Otherwise, you could watch some 205 Live. As far as specifics go, it depends on what you're looking for.
kris. 04.06.18	shiiiit i completely forgot about the list lol. got up to aleister black v velveteen dream (what the fuck is this dude even i love him so much), so yeah gonna watch some more of those
bloc 04.06.18	That Black vs. Dream match was probably my favourite match of last year tbh. Of course a big part of that was the hot crowd.
DropTune 04.06.18	Velveteen's story is hard to explain. Patrick debuted in NXT as a part of the few Tough Enough guys WWE didn't drop. He was alright in-ring but had 0 charisma and no connection to the crowd. After a few appearances on TV, Patrick vanished. Over the summer, Velveteen Dream debuted as a flamboyant heel. Patrick transformed into the Velveteen Dream, so to speak, in an attempt to reinvent himself as a performer. The locker room rejected Patrick's heel persona and refused to acknowledge him under his new name. In an attempt to gain respect, Velveteen targeted his polar opposite, Aleister Black. The two feuded over Velveteen's name, as hard as that is to believe. Finally, after a hard fought bout, Black acknowledged The Velveteen Dream and further cemented both's legacy in the yellow brand.
DropTune 04.06.18	The simple answer is that Velveteen is the new age Goldust. People boo him because he looks gay and cheer him because he is an amazing wrestler.
Minushuman24 04.08.18	my boy VELVETEEN DREAM IS GONNA TAKE IT TONIGHT
bloc 04.08.18	Dear god this 6 way match is as godly as I hoped it would be
Minushuman24 04.08.18	Nevermind, Adam Cole won. STILL AWESOME
bloc 04.08.18	Holy shit, I wasn't expecting him to win, but he's awesome so who cares. I now wonder if he'll retain the tag titles. Amazing fuckin match. Just fuckin amazing. Just the idea of the feuds these 6 guys could have with each other gives me a boner.
Minushuman24 04.08.18	Shayna vs Ember was pretty solid. I am kinda glad that the belt is off of Ember Moon, she's a fantastic wrestler, but her character needs so much work; her personality does not get me invested in her matches nor her title reign
bloc 04.08.18	I agree, she's got a super charismatic look, but her mic skills are nowhere even close. Glad Shayna won. She's pretty legit.
Minushuman24 04.08.18	Roddy turning was unexpected, but really cool, I'm prepared to hate him. Almas vs Black.... my body is ready
bloc 04.08.18	YESSSS RODDY omg I love that man with every passing week. He's such a good fit in this stable. But damn I am gonna miss his KsE wannabe theme song haha
Minushuman24 04.08.18	Aliester V Almas was a bit disappointing, still very good
Minushuman24 04.08.18	lol, I'm surprised they didn't actually get them to give him a theme. They don't seem terribly busy and it would be pretty dope
bloc 04.08.18	NO MAN IS EVER TRULY GOOD NO MAN IS EVER TRULY EVIL
Minushuman24 04.08.18	I DO THE THINGS YOU NEVER COULD AND WE WILL NEVER BE EQUAL
Minushuman24 04.08.18	The finish to the Gargano/Ciampa match was brutal as fuckkk
DropTune 04.08.18	Takeover Review: North American Ladder Match: 10/10, Baszler vs. Moon: 9/10, Tag Title Triple Threat: 8.5/10, Black vs. Almas: 9/10, Gargano vs. Ciampa: 10/10. The pay-per-view was very strong top-to-bottom and spared no expense in delivering a shocking cornerstone in the Takeover anthology. No match felt wasted or padding to the overall experience. This will certainly rival Wrestlemania strongly. I wouldn't mind fans making this their favorite Takeover event either. All in all, I'm speechless.
Minushuman24 04.08.18	I really really enjoyed the PPV, but not as much as everyone else it seems, it's still an incredibly solid show Ladder Match 4* Bazler/Moon 3.75* Triple Threat 3.5* Black/Almas 4* Gargano/Ciampa 4.5* Still absolutely fantastic
bloc 04.08.18	Fuck me, that ending was amazing yeah. I got goosebumps during that shit
bloc 04.08.18	And I need to give madddddd props to the commentary team and the crowd. They fuckin killed it. The "fuck you Ciampa" chant omg lol
Minushuman24 04.08.18	Ciampa's entrance alone was amazing.
Deez 04.08.18	Been going down a wrestling hole last few weeks after not really watching if for years (some lucha) and my friend told me to watch that tonight. Was amazing.
bloc 04.08.18	Niiiice man
kris. 04.08.18	only got to see the ladder match tonight but JESUS CHRIST
DropTune 04.08.18	I don't think Black vs. Almas is 4 star worthy. That should at least be nearing a 4.5 at the very least. Same goes with the ladder match. The tag-team and Women's title match I can agree, but I can't say the same for the others. Especially Gargano vs. Ciampa. The hot crowd, incredible action, and storytelling are all worthy of a 5. That was one of the best feuds I've ever seen live.
bloc 04.08.18	Best feud in NXT history, that's for sure
bloc 04.08.18	It all comes down to the next 7 hours
DropTune 04.08.18	I can't argue with that. NXT has had some good feuds though. It all depends on Wrestlemania's performance. If WM does well, I guess this will be the best WM we've had in years.
DropTune 04.08.18	I mean, Wrestlemania 30 and 26 were alright. I guess Wrestlemania 28 is passable. Otherwise, there hasn't been an outstanding Wrestlemania in a while. It would be shameful if this one doesn't live up given its card.
calmrose 04.08.18	great first match, hope the rest of the PPV keeps this level up
calmrose 04.09.18	holy shit, did not expect that at all, superb match, 2/2
Deez 04.09.18	'Charlotte was ready' was LAME tho
ExhaleTheLight 04.09.18	So that taker squash match sets up a year long feud for next year
Minushuman24 04.09.18	I really need to stop getting excited for WrestleMania
JeetJeet 04.09.18	Damn. Cena really got his monkey ass whooped by a nigga who just got a new hip. Shouldn't have talked all that shit you jorts wearin muhfucka.
Minushuman24 04.09.18	Well that wrestlemania kind of sucked in the end
Deez 04.09.18	Starter off well then loads of Meh. Even the Aj/Nak match wasnt as great as expected. Was hella surprised that Rousey actual looked good, was expecting a massive shit show. Those last 2 matches killed any hype though
Minushuman24 04.09.18	Men's BR: 1* Womans: 1* Cedric/Mustafa: 3* :C Miz/Finn/Seth:4* Asuka/Charlotte: 4.5* :C US title match: 3.25* Rhonda's match: 3.5* Tag Triple Threat: 2.75* Undertaker/Cena 1.5* Dbry/shane vs OTP: 3* Nia/Alexa: 3.25 AJ/Nakamura: What the actual fuck. 3* Braun/Nicholas V Sheamus/Cesaro 2.5* Roman/Brock: 1.5* Not that these ratings matter, but that's what I thought. Completely let down that they ended Asuka's streak already, even though the match was brilliant. AJ/Shin was just..... man that was just a huge let down
ExhaleTheLight 04.09.18	Don't know what happened with AJ and Nakamura, that match was going to be the saving grace I thought.
ExhaleTheLight 04.09.18	Also that was one of the worst main events I've ever seen for Mania. It was worst than last year, what the fuck were they trying to do? Even with Lesnar winning that was it the show ended.
Deez 04.09.18	agree with that. As someone whos only just tuning back into WWE land its amazing how much NXT absolutely pissed on the main roster
ExhaleTheLight 04.09.18	I think with the level of high quality matches I saw with Takeover I expected more out of Mania.
Deez 04.09.18	Same there wasnt any real surprises or anything really "wrestlemania' like
Minushuman24 04.09.18	I'd argue it had a lot of surprises....now if those surprises were GOOD is that question. I will say that I am elated than we were not subjected to Kid Rock's live show
Eons 04.09.18	really? i thought the announcers sucked. Cole is awful. I hate how he not so subtly suggests what the viewer should be thinking. He transparently pushes a narrative that reeks of Vince. Especially with Roman. He might as well just say ''Please think this so we can sell you a, b, c, d, storyline.
EyesWideShut 04.09.18	I love when Stone Cold calls anything a "Lil Bastard"
DropTune 04.09.18	Wrestlemania grades: IC Title Triple Threat: 8/10, Flair vs. Asuka: 8/10, US Title Fatal-4-Way: 6/10, Mixed Tag Match: 7/10, Smackdown Tag Titles: 8/10, Undertaker vs. John Cena: 10/10, Bryan & Shane vs. Owens & Zayn: 7/10, Jax vs. Bliss: 7/10, Styles vs. Nakamura: 7/10, RAW Tag Titles: 6.5/10, Universal Championship: 5/10.
DropTune 04.09.18	I didn't hate Wrestlemania 34, but I felt the show hated its fans. Styles vs. Nakamura would never have been able to live up to its hype. It could have been better obviously, but I didn't think it was lazy or atrocious. I just thought it laid the groundwork for a feud that should have been done earlier. The ending was perfect. Bludgeon Brothers squashed the competition as they needed to. Taker proved he was just as good as everyone remembers. Bryan still has it in-ring. Asuka and Flair, despite the controversial ending, put on a stellar performance. The IC Triple Threat probably was the match of the night. Anyone could have won and it would have been just fine. The mixed tag match was better than I expected. It wasn't great, but it wasn't as bad as it could have been. RAW's tag titles was a glorified segment, but it was still entertaining to see Braun and a kid get more charisma than the match that followed.
DropTune 04.09.18	When it comes down to it, WM 34 was more entertaining than its previous incarnations. Did it suck? No. Was it worth $9.99? Totally. The outstanding card called for one of, if not the, best WM of the modern era. What we got was a show trying to outsmart its viewers. WWE wanted to shock its fans, which it did, but it didn't awe them in the process. We didn't get the fated 5 star match we've all been aspiring for. The crowd wasn't nearly as hot as NXT the night before. The main event was trying too hard to be more than what it was. Not even Lesnar retaining can change the fans minds. 9 matches and yet the opener is more important than the entire show. Styles and Nakamura wasn't trying to compare to its predecessor, nor does it need to, but fans deserved a longer match than what was given. All in all, it was better than last year, so 7/10.
kris. 04.09.18	so all things considered, as a first WM, that objectively owned. HOWEVER. i cared so little about the lesnar/reigns match before it even started and it was easily the worst match of the night. naka's heel turn ruled though. fuck aj.
DropTune 04.09.18	Don't speak such blasphemy about AJ Styles. But yes, the heel turn was perfect. Did you catch Takeover: New Orleans?
kris. 04.09.18	i saw the 6 man ladder match but that was it. had game night at a friend's place. i'm gonna watch the rest some time this week. heard the gargano/ciampa match was a goddamn barn burner though.
DropTune 04.09.18	The whole show was a barn burner. It continues the roll of NXT events outdoing main roster pay-per-views in every way possible. It's a real shame.
ExhaleTheLight 04.09.18	That was also the worst crowd in recent memory but then again to be there for 7 hours I would lose my energy too
bloc 04.10.18	Ok so I just finished watching the last half and I agree with these opinions. Wow, as soon as the DB and Shane match ended the crowd just sounded sooooo gassed like they were done for the day, no? They were pretty much dead for the rest of the PPV. No idea what happened with AJ/Nak. I'm thinking maybe AJ was injured again or something. I did like that Nak went heel though, wasn't expecting that. And I DEF wasn't expecting Brock to retain. I actually wanted Roman to win this time. I'm kinda over Brock at this point. That match was really boring though. Not even the crimson mask at the end could save it lol. I honestly thought Roman was gonna win damn. I wonder if it was a last minute change.
bloc 04.10.18	Best match by faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar was for the Cruiserweight title imo. Thank god at least those guys killed it and ultimately everyone else. I knew it was gonna be a top match once it ended. Ever since HHH took over those little nigs have never let me down.
bloc 04.10.18	Actually, best match might be tied between CW match and the Rhonda match. That mixed tag match was entertaining as all hell and delivered everything it needed. I was so damn impressed with it. Might be one of the most entertaining matches I've seen in a long time.
ExhaleTheLight 04.10.18	Now Brock is defending the title against Reigns again at the Saudi Arabia event. Why throwaway the main event of your biggest show for a one off event?
bloc 04.10.18	Hell, he might get the title there who knows
kris. 04.10.18	DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE DELETE
kris. 04.10.18	fam i love this matt/bray tag team so much omg
Deez 04.10.18	Cole and Coach are so awful that my new WWE hole might have to end. They make my ears bleed
JonathanHickman2004 04.10.18	My favorite part of the night was when the announcer said "Ladies and gentlemen can we please have a little respect for Stephanie Mcmahon" and got nuclear heat lmao...
Storm In A Teacup 04.10.18	Pretty quiet crowd for Rawmania tonight. Not much heat for Stephanie other than the fact no one wanted to see her open the show but at least they got to be happy seeing her get written off. The TNA joke was a no chill epic. Stoked on Lashley returning. Needs to be and stay upper card.
DropTune 04.10.18	The Raw crowd was legit. I expected Ember, A.O.P, and No Way Jose to appear. Jose has been off of NXT for quite a bit. Even at house shows he rarely appears. I guess SMACKDOWN is getting Andrade and Sanity. They should have waited for the draft to call up some NXT people. My picks are: McIntyre, Iconic Duo, Andrade, Sanity, Zelina Vega, and Buddy Murphy.
bloc 04.10.18	"My favorite part of the night was when the announcer said "Ladies and gentlemen can we please have a little respect for Stephanie Mcmahon" and got nuclear heat lmao..." I lol'd when that happened. Was Jojo actually supposed to say that as part of the script? Damn that woman is both a heel inside and outside the ring it seems haha. Agreed about the Raw crowd though. They seemed a little more...polite this year lol
ExhaleTheLight 04.10.18	I was waiting for those "fuck you Roman!" chants
bloc 04.10.18	Lol even at WM, he didn't get blasted as much by the crowd during his intro. At least not as much as I thought he would, but I'm glad about that. He deserves better. But as the match went on...yeah that's when things got ugly lol
ExhaleTheLight 04.10.18	I think at this point fans just don't care about him anymore. Don't cheer nor boo him, just deal with him because he is the new face of the company whether everyone likes him or not.
bloc 04.10.18	Yeah, excellent point, I bet you are right. And that is the worst thing that could possibly happen to a wrestler at the top.
ExhaleTheLight 04.10.18	I've noticed it for awhile, he doesn't generate any loud reactions anymore. Not even the polarizing chants for John Cena. It does suck for him
DinosaurJones 04.11.18	So since I got home I've watched Takeover so far (which was great!) And the preshow to WM. Matt Hardy winning the Battle Royal was pretty sweet, though apparently Jeff is back and not as Brother Nero? Weak. I expected more from Cedric vs Mustafa, honestly... I was pretty disappointed by that. Though Mustafa's entrance was pretty rad. And the women's battle royal was all right... I wanted either Becky or Bayley to win, so that ending was lame as fuck, since Naomi was like a non-factor in that match, then won out of nowhere. We'll see how the rest of it goes tonight
SIIMBOLIC 04.11.18	some underwhelming points to be sure, but overall a really fun show imo
DinosaurJones 04.11.18	Also, Ciampa has MASSIVE heat. That was bonkers. The crowd was so hot for that match.
SIIMBOLIC 04.11.18	John Cena generates polarising chants cause some love him and others love him but also love to give him shit cause he's so good on the mic. Roman is just a decent wrestler and average at best promo who gets pushed over much better talent
DropTune 04.11.18	John Cena generates a reaction because fans RESPECT him. Regardless of opinion, fans respect Cena for his work. He's an incredible wrestler and has proven reliable. His character may not be the best, but the man can wrestle. He's versatile, passionate, and entertaining. Roman Reigns is a different story completely. He hasn't done enough to actually regard him as anything.
bloc 04.11.18	Don't forget Cena is one of the best mic workers of all time, love him or hate him. DinoJ, your heart will slowly sink as WM goes on trust me.
DinosaurJones 04.11.18	So this is another year of Takeover overshadowing WM in terms of quality? Dang. Also, I know I could totally just look this up, but I'm sure someone here can answer. What were the debuts this week? Raw was: AoP, No Way Jose, Ember Moon, Lashley, Jeff Hardy returned... am I missing anyone else? SD I only know Paige is now GM, and the Iconic Duo debuted.
bloc 04.11.18	Samoa Joe appeared on Raw, but he didn't get physical. Only buried Roman about his loss to Lesnar lol
DinosaurJones 04.11.18	Ah, Joe is back too, cool. He's had a string of bad luck with those injuries.
bloc 04.11.18	He's one of my favs on the roster and yeah he is very prone to injury. Guy missed 2 WM's in a row because of them. If he ain't careful WWE will release him.
ExhaleTheLight 04.11.18	Takeovers have been overshadowing PPVs in general. Totally not looking foward to the crossbrand PPVs as they will probably be pretty long.
DropTune 04.12.18	SMACKDOWN debuted the Iconic Duo. Their debut was long overdue (should have happened in August), but they finally made their way up. Paige as a GM is something I'm not looking forward to. I've been following Paige since FCW and don't think her career ended too soon. There's really no place for her right now anyways. The women's roster doesn't need Paige nor does Paige need the women's roster. She's more than proved herself and needs to step aside. I feel like her GM role is rather useless. Sure the fans like her, but it's an odd place having Paige as an authority figure. I'd rather Mick Foley or Edge step in.
DinosaurJones 04.12.18	Holy shit, that New Day WM entrance
ExhaleTheLight 04.12.18	I would've thought they would bring Hogan back and he would manage Smackdown
DropTune 04.12.18	I'd rather not have Hogan be a GM. He needs to have a backstage role as a writer or something.
bloc 04.12.18	I don't mind Paige as GM, let's see what she can do. I wouldn't mind if the rest of Absolution gets drafted to SD because of her recommendation and she gives them special treatment or something. SD this week was really good imo. Only thing is they need some new blood in the tag team division. And Nak's backstage promo with Renee was GODLYYYYYY
bloc 04.12.18	Bray and Matt pairing up might be the next big thing, as I loved what they did on this week's Raw not only the ring but the 2 backstage segments as well. That match where they faced Titus Worldwide was fuckin comedic gold. I loved when Apollo did a back flip and Matt and Bray stopped him mid match, did a WONDAFUL, and started clapping lol
DinosaurJones 04.12.18	I'm interested to see how the Roster shakeup will go. Also... a lot of WM thus far has been pretty unremarkable. The last match I watched was the New Day vs Usos vs Bludgeon Bros. Rousey/Angle vs HHH/Steph was a lot better than I expected it would be.
bloc 04.12.18	Oh yeah, I love shakeups. Can't wait. Ah, still not finished WM yet eh? And yep, the Rousey match will probably be one of my top matches of the year due to sheer entertainment. Brilliant work by everyone involved.
ExhaleTheLight 04.12.18	Finn and Miz to smackdown please
DropTune 04.14.18	My predictions: Drafted to SMACKDOWN: Finn Balor, Braun Strowman, Apollo Crews, Titus O'Neil, Dana Brooke, Asuka, Bayley, Karl Anderson, Luke Gallows, Drew McIntyre, Heath Slater, Elias, Mandy Rose, Sonya Deville, Andrade "Cien" Almas, Zelina Vega Drafted to RAW: Bobby Roode, Rusev, Lana, Aiden English, Jimmy Uso, Jey Uso, Naomi, Dolph Ziggler, Baron Corbin, Tye Dillinger, Tyler Breeze, Fandango, Zack Ryder, Charlotte Flair, Backy Lynch, Eric Young, Killian Dain, Alexander Wolfe, Nikki Cross,
DropTune 04.14.18	Becky Lynch*
ExhaleTheLight 04.14.18	Isn't the shakeup just a few superstars ?
bloc 04.14.18	Hopefully this year's is biiger, stuff's getting a bit old
ExhaleTheLight 04.14.18	I don't expect Roman or braun to move from their brands
bloc 04.14.18	True, those guys are probably the most likely of anyone to stay. Curious to see where Daniel Bryan goes now. It wouldn't be good for Roman if they were on the same show lol
DropTune 04.14.18	The Shakeup is usually a few people, but WWE has a structuring issue they need to fix. RAW is too top heavy to sustain a reasonable tier. With the influx of talent RAW's received, SMACKDOWN suffers from an awful drop between the high and mid card. What high card does SMACKDOWN actually have? Bryan, Styles, and Shinsuke are the only consistent ones. Owens and Zayn serve as the uppder mid-card, whereas Roode, Rusev, etc. serve as the normalized mid card. Orton and Jericho are limited dates, which leaves even more of an issue. RAW has no tag-team division at the moment, nor does it have a legitimate mid-card. Balor and Miz, usually the high to upper mid tier, are relegated to mid-card feuds. This chokes people like Elias and Apollo who need more room to flourish. With an abundance of NXT call-ups approaching, what room is there on RAW? That's the ideology behind my predictions.
ExhaleTheLight 04.14.18	A lot of people don't want it but I would prefer smackdown to be 3 hours, then draft a wealth of talent into the show so that they actually get screen time.
DropTune 04.14.18	The last thing SMACKDOWN needs is 3 hours. RAW shouldn't even be 3 hours. Making SMACKDOWN 3 hours to justify talent is redundant. RAW is 3 hours and still uses half of their roster. The only way RAW's roster gets exposure is through house shows. Both brands need to cycle their talent properly. Whoever doesn't get utilized needs to go to NXT, cycle NXT's top people to RAW and SMACKDOWN, and continue the wheel through their careers. That works better instead of throwing your low carders on Main Event or Superstars and letting them ride their contracts out, jump to Ring of Honor or New Japan, and end up being more popular than they ever were.
ExhaleTheLight 04.14.18	Aka Cody Rhodes, Austin Aries, etc.
DinosaurJones 04.14.18	...do Main Event and Superstars even exist anymore?? If they do, I had literally no idea.
Storm In A Teacup 04.14.18	Elias is flourishing fine. Apollo just isn't a charismatic (real) star. I also would love to see Smackdown be 3 hours. There would be so much more opportunity for so many people. Better stories. Raw has so many tag teams they just needed to be used better and that's already happening now that WM34 is out of the way. The mid card on Raw is 5/5. Miz, Finn Balor, Samoa Joe, Seth Rollins, Jeff Hardy. Greatest mid card since mid 2000s smackdown. I also think that the way NXT call ups have been done is great. The only thing I can agree with you on droptune is that yes it would do wonders for some low card Smackdown and Raw wrestlers to go back to NXT. Look at Zack Ryder for instance although one could say he needed a push not to be cycled. Pretty sure Main Event and Superstars ended when Cruiserweights got a show
DropTune 04.15.18	RAW doesn't really have a tag-team division. They're buried because the mid-card of RAW makes them look small. Like you said, Finn Balor, Joe, Rollins, and Hardy are *huge* stars. How does that compare to guys like Sheamous, Cesaro, Revival, and Titus Worldwide? They're basically low carders with the exception of Cesaro & Sheamus. RAW's top heavy roster makes anyone who isn't a former champion look like crap. I mean really, Braun Strowman is a mid carder. How does that even work? Strowman can devour the entire roster! Why is he competing with guys like Sheamus who are out of his league? RAW has so many wrestlers they have no idea what to do with them. It's not a healthy environment for up-and-coming stars. RAW is best suited for established stars who know their place. SMACKDOWN is better for wrestlers in need of a reboot and niche to work in. That's why Apollo, Elias, and Balor will work. RAW needs less people in the equation to help focus on their stars. Making SMACKDOWN 3 hours 'because wrestling' isn't a good excuse. SMACKDOWN isn't meant to be 3 hours anyways. The show will choke because it doesn't have enough names to draw viewers, a big enough roster, nor does it have any real reason. With SMACKDOWN's current roster, they're lucky to even have 2 hours. Cycling people through NXT allows the low card to rest up, redefine their persona, train newcomers, and regain their fanbase. That's why James Storm and Kassius Ohno like the brand.
ExhaleTheLight 04.15.18	The only good dynamic Raw had with the tag team division was when Ambrose and Rollins teamed and raised with The Bar. Ever since then the division sucked on Raw
ExhaleTheLight 04.15.18	DJ I believe superstars and main event exist only on the network, the only time I watched one of them last year was when Aleister Black destroyed Curt Hawkins
DropTune 04.16.18	We'll see what happens tonight.
bloc 04.16.18	Hope there's a decent amount of switches. I'm also curious to see how they present it. I am assuming that whoever debuted on Raw and SD last week are pretty much sticking to those brands.
ExhaleTheLight 04.17.18	So with all the wealth of talent Raw has this is going to be a big problem. Especially with cobranded ppvs
Minushuman24 04.17.18	I think the cobranding of ppvs is such a mistake, they have too much talent on the rosters now
ExhaleTheLight 04.17.18	Guessing it's from a business standpoint? Top much money being spent on too many ppvs?
DropTune 04.18.18	Co-branded pay-per-views aren't so bad. There will be a lot less time wasted. It's better than two pay-per-views a month or one every other month. Pay-per-views are also too expensive to produce. At least now getting a spot on the pay-per-view card means more than throwing a multi-man filler match on the card just for the hell of it. NXT only gets 5 pay-per-views a month and getting a spot on that card is way harder than anything else. WWE only needs 10 pay-per-views a year anyways. Half of them suck which is the sad part. How many good Payback events have we seen? Has there ever been a legit Clash of Champions event since its return? 2018's Fastlane was probably the first good one they've ever done -- and that was average! Elimination Chamber is hit or miss. Extreme Rules usually has one or two decent matches each time around. The inaugural Edge vs. Jeff Hardy match was pretty good.
DropTune 04.18.18	Five pay-per-views a year I mean. Yet, if you consider how many good NXT shows there are each month, I wouldn't shy from calling them pay-per-view level lol.
bloc 04.18.18	Yeah I don't like the cobrand PPV idea either. Now every PPV is just gonna be title matches and that's it? And are they expecting to fit in every title on each PPV? That's overkill, plus the PPV's would have to be longer.
DropTune 04.18.18	You guys are kinda missing the point. Dual branded pay-per-views have unintended consequences like the ones you mentioned. Sure it will be mostly title matches, they might even be longer, but what's important is two things: storylines and opportunity. Dual branded events allow for a more linear narrative and less focus on time. Not only that, but there will be less filler pay-per-views. Getting a spot on the pay-per-view card used to mean something. Wrestlers used to fight for spots on the card instead of getting one handed to them. Dual branded events are easier and less taxing than the alternative. Think of how many good single branded pay-per-views we had. Maybe 5 or 6 give or take. It depends on how you look at it. Anyways, my draft comment was too long so here's a link: https://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19319813#post19319813
kris. 04.19.18	okay so i started watching old WWF episodes starting like mid 97 and i'm just skipping to storylines i'm interested some thoughts: 1. holy FUCK there was some problematic shit being written into these shows. goldust and chyna and all of the other women wrestlers were fucking troopers for sticking this shit out. i just watched goldust walk out to the ring in a diaper and get shoved into a port-o-potty. wtf. 2. stone cold really is the baddest motherfucker on the planet 3. i never realized just how toxic bret hart's departure was. some of the things that happened afterwards like the little person dressed up as bret getting beat up and the direct shots at wcw made me cringe a little. vince is a vindictive bitch. i dunno how owen stuck with the company after all of that. 4. shawn michaels is a cowardly little shit and he plays it SO SO WELL. i love this man. i'm about to watch the royal rumble 98, enjoying the fuck outta this for the most part
kris. 04.19.18	edit: nvm
ExhaleTheLight 04.19.18	As long as I get to see the good storylines progress through these new PPVs then I wouldn't mind the cobranded thing
ExhaleTheLight 04.19.18	Imo Bret's departure was the most impactful. Showed the toxic backstage politics of the WWE. And the clashing of bret and vinces egos
Storm In A Teacup 04.19.18	No one cares about that boring drama. I want a saga. Give me a saga.
DropTune 04.20.18	Attitude Era couldn't work nowadays. I don't care what anyone else says. There's no way in hell anything that happened then would be okay now. The closest thing we'll get to that is NXT.
DinosaurJones 04.20.18	As great as a lot of stuff in the Attitude Era was, a lot of it was also pretty shit. It's just that the product was so hot that everyone looks back on it fondly, even the crappy stuff.
DropTune 04.20.18	That isn't to say Attitude Era was bad. It was without a doubt the most entertaining and unpredictable era of wrestling. It had a good blend of real and scripted content. Shoots and works were hard to tell apart. The problem is fans keep comparing wrestling then to wrestling now. There's no comparison between the Golden Age and Attitude Era, nor is there any comparison between modern wrestling to any other era.
DropTune 04.23.18	Who's ready for 3 hours of creative's writing?
DinosaurJones 04.23.18	I like Rusev a lot, but I think he made the wrong decision about saying that he's going to "Crush the Undertaker's old ass," and I'm unsure if he's being punished for it. I remember reading in one of Jericho's books about the advice he got for cutting promos, which was to never bury your opponent on the mic. In this case, if Rusev wins, he beat an old man. And if he loses (which he's almost guaranteed to), he lost to an old man. Undertaker or not.
bloc 04.23.18	Screw that shit, you hear Cena and Nikki broke up?? Damn that is crazy.
DinosaurJones 04.23.18	I'm not surprised. Cena really seems like a control freak. I'm amazed they lasted that long.
bloc 04.23.18	It's one of those things where I shouldn't be surprised, but I am surprised. Their relationship was a bit too manufactured and I am almost certain the proposal spot from Cena during the last WM was not something he wanted to do. Speaking of control freak, I saw news that he required Nikki to sign some 75 page contract before marriage lol Plus there were countless times when Nikki stated she wanted kids and Cena was like no every single time so I dunno how that would even work. Their wedding date was set to May 5 but it appears as though he got cold feet and backed out completely.
DinosaurJones 04.23.18	Time for Dolph Ziggler to slide back into those DMs...
bloc 04.23.18	Lmao truuuue
DinosaurJones 04.23.18	I'm sure that when you're a famous attractive woman, being single is very much a choice. I mean, probably the same for the dudes too, I don't want to generalize.
bloc 04.23.18	Oh yeah no doubt about that. Hell, I might even send her a message.
DinosaurJones 04.23.18	Get that Bella booty. Tony Atlas said she likes to shit on people though (literally), so I hope you're into that scat.
bloc 04.23.18	Lmao what?? I will be googling that story when I get home.
DinosaurJones 04.23.18	I mean, obviously take all that information with a grain of salt, but...who really knows.
DropTune 04.23.18	I don't know how anyone actually cares about Cena's relationship with Nikki. It's entirely fake -- I mean look at it. The Bella Twins were fired for their backstage antics, resurface a few years later, and get with the two biggest WWE stars. Pro-wrestling marriages seldom work. There's no off season, the family doesn't travel with the stars, and there's not much communication. Any seasoned veteran will tell you two things: don't own a home and don't have a wife 'cause you'll never see either. John Cena is a huge mainstream asset, and with his movie career on the horizon, he would have even less time with a wife. This relationship was obviously a money deal. Also, marriage contracts are common among athletes. That's not something negative. Triple H had one when he married Stephanie. It's a money/confidentiality thing in case of a divorce.
bloc 04.23.18	Also, no offence to Nikki, but with their ending relationship she is losing waaaaay more than Cena.
DinosaurJones 04.23.18	Maybe Total Bellas will end.
DropTune 04.23.18	I hope E! Network ends with it.
DropTune 04.24.18	RAW Review: Monday Night RAW laid the platform for the GREATEST Royal Rumble to build upon. Lots of interesting changes took place and seeds planted for future feuds. Lesnar opened the show with RAW's usual promo. Reigns came out and the two sold their steel cage match for Friday afternoon. Reigns wasn't so aggressive in this promo, which makes sense due to the ass kicking he received a few weeks ago. Roode lost to Elias in a weird match. Both are up-and-comers, but putting Elias over is strange. Elias is caught between a feud with Strowman, Lashley, and Roode. This makes little sense, but we'll go with the win. Roode needs a heel turn sooner than later. Ascension continue their downward spiral to jobber status with another unimportant loss to Matt and Bray. Nothing notable here. Owens and Zayn are still feuding with authority figures. Nothing new here, this time it's just Angle instead of McMahon. Ziggler and McIntyre are tearing up RAW left-and-right. Big things are in store and RAW's new powerhouse could easily go against Strowman right now. McIntyre will be RAW's future no doubt. The surprise of the night was Chad Gable beating Jinder Mahal. I didn't expect this one, but it'll probably lead to a feud with Jason Jordan. However, Gable always gets a good singles push that dies within a few weeks, so don't get your hopes up. Lashley and Strowman beat up Zayn and Owens. The match didn't do much aside from give Lashley some in-ring time. Lashley's been working tag matches since his debut. Once he gets a singles match it'll be better to judge him with, but considering his tenure in TNA, Lashley hasn't missed a beat. Speaking of weird feuds, how about Corbin and Jose? This will do nothing for Corbin and little for Jose in the long run. Jose, although an entertaining wrestler, doesn't have a bright enough gimmick for longevity's sake. Rollins and Balor beat the Miztourage in a one-sided beatdown. It's hard to put over Miztourage as credible in any fashion. The 10-woman tag match was forgettable without Rousey coming in to beat up Mickie James. Their match in Saudi is a weird one and is underwhelming at best, however, it will be interesting to see Rousey take on one of pro-wrestling's top female talent. This was a weird week for RAW. Greatest Royal Rumble is a strange pay-per-view filled with odd matches and underwhelming set-ups. It'll be hard to plod through another 5 hour pay-per-view alongside another pay-per-view the week after. Regardless, RAW was a C+ this week.
bloc 04.25.18	https://youtu.be/ibJUN3Tcbac?list=FLaWvr2CMFkBMLyWc8PgpkRA Just got reminded of this track today lol. God that main riff is pure groove.
DinosaurJones 04.25.18	Wow, Big Cass REALLY looks like Test and Edge had a kid together...
bloc 04.25.18	Why does he have to pronounce literally every word in his script super slowly lol
DinosaurJones 04.25.18	The future of the biz right there, boys. The next Roman Reigns!
DropTune 04.25.18	SMACKDOWN Live Review: Smack-dizzle graced the Earth with its presence with a Tuesday night filled with action. The opener was a Miz TV segment debuting a bigger Cass than usual. Cass is now an arrogant heel who brags about being big. That's neat and all, but his promos could be a bit faster. Miz will hopefully bring him up to par with a more natural delivery than a scripted one. The following match was an add one: the IIconics defeated both Becky Lynch and Asuka. This was a weird move considering Asuka and Lynch jobbed to the mean girls. WWE must have a lot of faith in the duo to put them over two of the best women on the roster. This is a tough blow for Asuka who can't afford to lose often -- especially to Royce and Kay. Speaking of weird, Naomi's distraction was... interesting. Thank God the New Day weren't out there. The match was average, and Naomi interfering to save Uso's life made sense: but distraction by booty? Okay... if you're into that. Carmella's segment was timed well. It didn't drag on like last week. Letting her say her peace before Charlotte chimed in was better. Hopefully Charlotte will reclaim her title. I don't see Carmella lasting long. Orton vs. Benjamin should have been better than it was. Benjamin is an A-grade athlete who will play a huge part in the U.S. title picture. Once Mahal leaves, the division will have room to breathe and work around the likes of Hardy and Benjamin. The main event was no spectacle, but the Bullet Cl- I mean Styles Club reunion was something interesting. Rusev and English getting a main event spot is always great, especially with Nakamura's inclusion. It was good storytelling at best. The final scene with Gallows taking the Kinshasa was perfect. Nakamura's heel turn is a thing of beauty. Hopefully the Good Brothers will benefit from being with Styles rather than Balor.
ExhaleTheLight 04.25.18	Yo Big Cass is still terrible at promos
DropTune 04.25.18	Heh, I've seen worse.
bloc 04.25.18	I kinda like him lol. But having him and Mella on the same brand must be super awkward
DropTune 04.25.18	Let's think for a second: Cass & Mella, Uso & Naomi, Rusev & Lana, Paige & Woods on the same brand? Must be nice...
bloc 04.25.18	Oh shit, that is fucked up lol. Def no coincidence.
DinosaurJones 04.25.18	I bet Vince is writing Cass' promos for him...
bloc 04.25.18	I haven't watched SD this week yet, but I don't want him feuding with Bryan because that's clearly gonna result in him getting buried. Unless WWE does a swerve and let's Cass win a few times, which is possible too, given that they kinda don't like Bryan as a top guy that much.
DinosaurJones 04.25.18	I feel like they might be turning Becky heel... which I don't particularly like the idea of. But it might make her even more smoking hot, so idk.
bloc 04.25.18	Oh shiiiiit, that would be crazy. I like that idea a lot. And agreed, she'd become even hotter.
DropTune 04.25.18	SMACKDOWN needs some swerves here and there. Becky might be a good heel. I think they have enough with Carmella, IIconics, Sonya, and Mandy.
DinosaurJones 04.25.18	Who decided to just start adding extra letters to names? Ruby Riott, IIconics...
bloc 04.25.18	The Riott thing was so that they could copyright the name I think. And IIconics it's probably the same thing. Also I hope the dropping of "Duo" means that there is potential for more women join. Imagine an all female heel stable of the two Australians, Becky and Lana. 4 hot female heels with hot foreign accents.
DinosaurJones 04.25.18	You think Lana's accent is hot? I hate it, haha.
bloc 04.25.18	Nah it sucks, but I couldn't think of anyone else lol
DinosaurJones 04.25.18	I mean, Asuka... I'd go for it.
bloc 04.25.18	No way, she should never hold a mic
DinosaurJones 04.25.18	She wouldn't have to in a stable like that, haha.
bloc 04.25.18	Lol true, them other ho's already talk a lot. I'm also starting to find Mella more and more attractive.
ExhaleTheLight 04.26.18	I love heel Shinsuke but his new theme is god awful, makes sense why they changed it though
ExhaleTheLight 04.26.18	Oh and planting fake fans to cheer for Roman is new low for Vince
Storm In A Teacup 04.26.18	New? Lol Anyway, you can not hinder the roided one! His US championship will return to him and Raw unhindered! And Samoa Joe will win the Intercontinental title! Hooray!
Storm In A Teacup 04.26.18	Now that sister abigail is free of that woken waste named wyatt, it's time for Rosemary to claim her throne as sister abigail in the flesh.
Storm In A Teacup 04.26.18	How is Bobby 40 years old Roode an up and comer tho lol. He was amazing before wwe
DinosaurJones 04.26.18	Before WWE doesn't exist to WWE. Just vague passing mentions, if that.
ExhaleTheLight 04.26.18	I cringed when Booker T said "this kid is special" If they wanted to use the best of him put him in a high profile feud like with what they did to AJ
DinosaurJones 04.26.18	Why is Booker back on commentary again?
bloc 04.26.18	Lol agreed about the Booby Roode stuff, but that dude looks young as hell still. Can't believe he's 40. "Oh and planting fake fans to cheer for Roman is new low for Vince" Lol I also noticed he was getting more cheers on Raw than usual. You think it was artificial?
DropTune 04.26.18	Vince plants fans everywhere. You'd be surprised. NXT is full of them!!! Changing Shinsuke's theme makes him more of a heel. Fans like his original one, but this is more geared for an aggressive heel. It'll stop people from singing along to it. They changed them to IIconics for copyright reasons. The double "I" in the name is supposed to refer to Billie and Kay. I honestly hate them both and hope no one joins their stable. Lana doesn't need a stable to look good. Neither does Becky Lynch. They're fine where they are. Also, don't talk about Booker T on this section. This comment section is sacred. Don't put Booker T on these walls.
bloc 04.26.18	Haha Booker is so damn entertaining though. At least once he learns everyone's name and storyline and shit. I did kinda like how Coach was getting roasted all the time though.
DinosaurJones 04.26.18	...how come they always roast the black guy? Booker, Coach, Saxton... Not cool, WWE. Not cool.
bloc 04.26.18	It's funny, but yeah a little bit uncomfortable when you look at the big picture. I'm sure there's still some "old school" type of thinking that goes on with the management. And that def ties into why there's hardly ever been a black top champion.
ExhaleTheLight 04.26.18	With Reigns, it was very evident that they planted fake fans when the camera shot the same group twice, there was like maybe 8 - 10 people in that shot cheering for him
ExhaleTheLight 04.26.18	Also, this new deal with Saudi Arabia makes the company so hypocritical. Women are not able to compete which halts the Women's evolution progress. Triple H's reasoning was hysterical. WWE will do anything for the $$$
bloc 04.26.18	Yep that was trouble from the moment they announced it. WWE is def making mad money doing this event in Saudi though. But the rules regarding the seating in the arena are freakin' hilarious.
ExhaleTheLight 04.26.18	10,000 tickets for the single neckbeards the rest has to have at least one women in each party lmao
DinosaurJones 04.26.18	THE WOMEN'S REVOLUTION WILL BE TELEVISED. Except when we go to countries where the women aren't allowed to compete. Then they need to shut up and stay home.
bloc 04.26.18	So given that the front row seats are reserved for families and royalty, is WWE expecting them to start going nuts when Roman wins the title? Hell fuckin no. It's gonna be the hardcore single guys up in level 500. I kinda fear that even though the PPV will be good and the crowd will be into it, the camera angles will give the impression that the crowd is dead throughout the entire thing.
ExhaleTheLight 04.26.18	I would think the opposite. I think the crowd would explode for reigns. The rest of the card looks good. I feel like there's no point of the rumble. Just 20 more jobbers than usual and the end result is a trophy?
bloc 04.26.18	Lol totally forgot that the winner just gets a trophy, yeah that is really dumb. But personally, I just don't see the Saudi princes and princesses and families in the front row cheering very hard.
ExhaleTheLight 04.26.18	They're treating this like a big PPV too lol. Now it'll be the big five instead of the big four
DinosaurJones 04.26.18	20 more jobbers? No way, Mark Henry is winning this rumble.
bloc 04.26.18	Not gonna lie, I was tempted a few times to take the day off work to watch it live. Card is absolutely stacked.
DropTune 04.26.18	WWE is hypocritical, but at the same time, this is Saudi Arabia. It's the most hypocritical place on Earth. I don't want men or women wrestling there. If women were wrestling and Finn Balor wore his "Balor Club for Everyone" shirt -- they'd all be dead. I'd rather keep them alive.
bloc 04.26.18	Ok so you guys know how Vince tried to start a bodybuilding federation in the early 90s? The full show from 1992 is on Youtube but dear god watch starting here. I have never laughed and cringed this hard in a while: https://youtu.be/UE9RdTQUnWE?t=1215
DinosaurJones 04.26.18	OH. My. Head. I like how even Mean Gene looks like "...I can't believe we're about to air this horse shit." I know that when I break out of my jail cell and assault an officer, my first instinct is to strip down to my bikini briefs before I make my escape.
bloc 04.26.18	Dude his routine though omg. I thought the jail skit was bad...
DinosaurJones 04.26.18	Jesus bloc, I didn't even get that far... don't make me.
bloc 04.27.18	No please do, I don't wanna be the only one on earth who got that far loooool
Minushuman24 04.27.18	Booker is on commentary cause booker rules. I actually love Shinsuke's new theme, even if it does sound slightly too busy Oh fuck yeah, I am gonna watch the beautiful garbage that is WBF
bloc 04.27.18	Trust me, it is HIGHLY enjoyable lol
Storm In A Teacup 04.27.18	AHHH YEAAA GET IT ON!!!! Only Vince lmao
DinosaurJones 04.27.18	I will attempt to get further into the WBF when I get home from work later.
bloc 04.27.18	You won't regret it. The jail skit was merely the icing on the cake.
kris. 04.27.18	...and Titus O'Neil was never heard from again.
DropTune 04.28.18	R.I.P Titus O'Neil. Gone and easily forgotten.
Storm In A Teacup 04.28.18	Much like the shittest royal rumble. Fake show
DinosaurJones 04.28.18	Jinder Mahal's bump off the whiffed Whisper in the Wind was pretty great too.
DropTune 04.28.18	Greatest Royal Rumble review: The beautiful, gorgeous, pretty, fabulous city of Jeddah put on 5 hours of wrestling with a 15 minute prayer break. While sitting in their front row VIP arm chairs with a stadium of Arabs going crazy, WWE threw together a Wrestlemania quality special with no build or story to justify its existence. Ultimately this random throwdown should fail, but it was a lot better than expected. The only matches worth talking about are the I.C. ladder match, Cruiserweight title match, and the WWE title match. These three matches were the best on the card. They were a lot better than their Wrestlemania counterparts and were the closest things to a good match on the card. That being said, the rest of the card was very underwhelming. It's easy to see the Saudi crowd wasn't very engaged in the event they were treated to. This is understandable since nothing really exists in Saudi that isn't censored, filtered, or banned. The crowd was dead through most of the show with the exception of the Lesnar v. Reigns and actual Rumble match. A weak crowd, strong card, and no story is as one would expect. Reigns and Lesnar showed improvement, but anything is an improvement from their main event match. Lesnar retaining is stupid and has no purpose to it. I guess that means Reigns is buried, but that means an entire year was wasted just to prove Lesnar is invincible. I'm so happy to know countless guys like Joe, Balor, Ambrose, Rollins, and Strowman were all buried just so Reigns could be built up high enough to lose TWICE to a part-time champ with no real competition. How lucky are we? The Rumble itself was just as random as the rest of the show. A useless Rumble with no real prize threw together 50 superstars in a smash fest of bodies hitting the floor. Nothing exciting happened aside from Strowman winning. A few surprise entrances included Hornswoggle and Hiroki Sumi, a famed Japanese sumo wrestler. No one knows why these two were involved, but when in Jeddah I guess. Greatest Royal Rumble was better than it should have been, but the lack of a purpose shone through the randomness that this event was. Hopefully the next Saudi based event will be a lot more streamlined. Greatest Royal Rumble is a solid 5/10.
Storm In A Teacup 04.28.18	Id say negative ten out of five. And they are calling it a big pay day for the woman because wwe is paying every woman for not being allowed to wrestle.. This is the worst thing Vince has ever done. What about Sami Zayn does he get a big bribe for being discriminated against too? Fucking disgraceful.
DinosaurJones 04.28.18	"Here's some hush money to keep you from feeling bad against not having any rights in this country that we're going to. That helps, right?" -WWE
Storm In A Teacup 04.28.18	With the way the world is this should have had some kind of news platform to bring attention to it and arguments made
DropTune 04.28.18	You guys act surprised that WWE would do this. They've done worse things before. They just got caught on this one. When it comes between Vince McMahon, WWE, and a good pay day, guess which one wins. Honestly, this is the most WWE thing they've done in years! Don't act surprised by this stuff.
ExhaleTheLight 04.29.18	The worst part is we get 10 more years of this shit
Storm In A Teacup 04.29.18	Id say none of us are surprised...so no need to act. It's okay to call bullshit if it's bullshit.
DropTune 04.29.18	Vince McMahon is a liar, cheater, false witness, thief, b.s.'er, and maniacal, but he's fair. Obviously this whole event was hypocritical in every way possible, but WWE is the biggest hypocrite alive. What is there to call b.s. about? They're just doing what they do best: make more money than they know what to do with.
bloc 04.29.18	Omg the internet's calling it Titus Worldslide, bwahahaha that is genius. I hope WWE makes a storyline out of it. Titus could actually get over this way lol. Overall though, a pretty skippable show. Nothing really happened enough to drive any storylines. I would call this a glorified house show. The fireworks were amazing though. Kind of pissed Roman didn't win yet again. I don't know what their plan with him is now. Is he still "the guy" to management now? Or do they just want Brock to overtake Punk's record reign and then have him drop it?
kris. 04.29.18	apparently people were legit cheering and excited when a promo with female wrestlers was shown (accidentally apparently). the office in charge of sports of whatever for the saudi government issued a statement that was like we apologize for this disgrace blah blah blah women suck it'll never happen again. people want to see them wrestle. fuck the Saudi government. ugh. also yeah boring show. that tombstone on Aiden looked brutal though. apparently he's fine but it's clear his head hit the mat in a bad way.
bloc 04.29.18	Yeah I noticed that with Aiden too. It did seem like the top of his head legit hit the mat.
kris. 04.29.18	someone on /r/squaredcircle was at there and said while they were airing the promo for brock v roman they had to take him out of the arena in a stretcher. he said he's okay on twitter but man neck injuries aren't anything to fuck with.
DropTune 04.29.18	Let's talk about a good pay-per-view instead. Redemption was an overall strong show put on by TNA. Bound for Glory, TNA's previous event, was an utter failure. 2017 was an awful year for TNA, but Bound for Glory was the icing on the cake. Many were left hopeless for TNA's future. Redemption has a very fitting name. Not only did TNA redeem themselves, but they redeemed their entire roster. The inclusion of Lucha Underground on top of some stellar matches gave TNA the right recipe for success. The main event of the evening was the best match. Pentagon Jr. vs. Austin Aries and Fenix was spectacular. Pentagon Jr. picked up a surprise victory and claimed the TNA Championship. High impact, high energy, and a shocked crowd added to the impact (pun intended) of the contest. It's nice to see Pentagon Jr. being utilized as a top dog in another promotion. Matt Sydal and Petey Williams had another great match for the X-Division championship earlier in the show. Sydal looks to be a major player in the promotion's future. His reinvention from Evan Bourne has been an interesting one. Aside from a couple average matches, the only duds were Eli Drake vs. LAX. His surprise partner of Scott Steiner looked good on paper, but man did it suck. 7 minutes of filler and stale moves weren't worth the little hype the match received. Taya Valkyrie vs. Kiera Hogan was another bad apple in the bunch. It's an easily skippable contest that does nothing for their stacked women's division. OVE vs. Eddie Edwards, Moose, and Tommy Dreamer was a nice bit of fun if nothing else. Compared to Greatest Royal Rumble, Redemption had a drive to put on a good show. TNA has no choice but to deliver the best show possible. All that's left are their real fans backing them in their darkest hour, but it's up to TNA to shine a better light. Redemption wasn't perfect, but for TNA's current state, it was their best shot. Let's hope Slammiversary steps up to the plate. That being said, I'm giving Redemption a 7/10.
Storm In A Teacup 04.30.18	TNA hasn't existed for a year and officially died with Jeff Jarret EC3 and Bobby Lashley leaving. There's nothing left to be loyal to except Disney World/Land. NJPW, ROH, and others are better. Also all of the best TNA ever offered is in WWE now. That's why Kurt really was able to say that. As a long time TNA fan it's disgusting to think of watching the new stuff except for Rosemary because she is a superstar.
Storm In A Teacup 04.30.18	Eli Drake is also a huge star. Love that guy.
bloc 04.30.18	Not gonna lie, I have been watching Impact for the past couple of months and it's rather enjoyable.
Storm In A Teacup 04.30.18	As long as Eli Drake and Rosemary hang around ill follow but I'll skip their other content. Nothing left to be loyal to imo.
DinosaurJones 04.30.18	Is Johnny Spade/Blaze/Nitro/Morrison/Mundo/Impact/Hennigan still with Impact?
bloc 04.30.18	Yep, and the funny part is that is he is feuding with that ex-WWE writer who got let go because he took a pic with Bullet Club lol
DinosaurJones 04.30.18	Huh. So are LU and Impact pretty much merging now? I see a bunch of LU talent with Impact... Taya, Hennigan, Cage, Fenix, Pentagon. Was it just a supercard? But Pentagon is a champ? I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON
bloc 04.30.18	There's a partnership between the 2, similar to RoH and NJPW. All I know is LU Season 4 starts in July and I am hyped.
DinosaurJones 04.30.18	I still haven't seen season 3. I gotta find it somewhere.
bloc 04.30.18	Check watchwrestling.uno, I watch all my wrestling stuff on that site.
DinosaurJones 04.30.18	Will do, thanks for the tip!
DropTune 04.30.18	I disagree. TNA was the definition of a miss opportunity. Once TNA got big enough, Jarrett gave it to someone young enough to carry it to the next level. The problem is Dixie Carter didn't listen to Hulk Hogan and Jeff Jarrett. Despite the two being who they are, they know business and they know wrestling. The important thing is they know the wrestling business. Dixie Carter knows how to manage money. The problem is Dixie Carter thought she knew more than Hogan and Bischoff, so what happened? She let EVERY SINGLE TNA WRESTLER LEAVE because she'd rather do what's best for her than what's best for TNA. When Billy Corgan tried to save it, she screwed him over. Finally, when she screwed herself over, she sold it. Now Lucha Underground is saving it because AAA is still loyal to TNA. The funny part is back in 2012 when TNA was starting to go under, the AAA offered to save it. TNA denied it of course, but I think it's funny. Look how the tables have turned.
DinosaurJones 05.01.18	Roman getting booed. Mahal, Zayn & Owens getting pops. Good times.
DropTune 05.01.18	Agreed. Best match in a while lol
DropTune 05.01.18	WWE RAW Review: Monday Night RAW was another average episode. Commentary described the crowd as "unconventional" because every post pay-per-view/live special crowd out of the country is considered to be odd. What ever the reason, WWE threw together a sloppy show with little to no special moments. RAW kicked off the best way possible: Reigns and Mahal. Why these two? Ask creative. As the crowd mercilessly booed them, Owens, Zayn, Strowman, and Lashley entered to set up a tag match. The segment was useless and featured Reigns complaining about his steel cage bout on Friday. What followed was a boring Elias vs. Roode match. WWE insists Roode is a babyface and refuses to book him otherwise. The match was plodding and didn't do anything for either member. Authors of Pain ate some jobbers and said some puns. Rollins fired up the crowd with a good promo before Miztourage did their thing and Balor challenged him in the main event. Banks and Riott did a decent match. Riott only shines in longer bouts, so WWE needs to work on giving her more time to flourish. Sasha Banks putting her over is a welcome surprise. Bliss aired a video package about her time with Jax. I'd prefer not to talk about this. The 6-man tag match entered the scene where Lashley, Roman, and Strowman devoured the heels in a boring match. I'm tired of seeing Lashley play second fiddle in tag matches. WWE needs to give him a singles bout so he doesn't look like a background character. Corbin graced the Earth with a loss to No Way Jose. Titus O'Neil played off of his botch by having Crews wipe the ring off before entering. This comedy skit was silly and didn't do much for anyone involved. WWE carried on a dead feud between Bliss and Jax. No one cares anymore and hopes for something with more energy. Rousey and Natalya was an odd pairing, but who cares? Is there a reason for Mickie vs. Rousey at all? Mickie lost her credibility long ago. She's cashing in as a nostalgia act. Balor and Rollins tore the house down in the only match worth discussing. The two fought for their lives in an exceptional IC Title bout. Rollins picked up the win after a lengthy match with flashes of a heel turn from Balor. Truthfully I'd prefer a Rollins heel turn, but Balor's will be an interesting bit to see. RAW was a boring episode with two matches to talk about. No one really cared about the Greatest Royal Rumble as is. We don't care what comes after. Backlash is buried anyways, so there's no real reason to get excited for it. I'm giving RAW a 5/10.
Storm In A Teacup 05.01.18	The worst part of impact is i can watch one episode every two months and it's still the same audience from 6 years ago. I recognize too many faces and it makes me hate that theyve been stuck in Orlando dying as they have.
DropTune 05.01.18	TNA shouldn't have left Orlando to begin with. They were doing fine performing in Orlando and traveling for house shows and their big 4 pay-per-views.
ExhaleTheLight 05.03.18	Looking at the Backlash card, so many stars were left out. Hopefully the cobranded ppvs will actually flourish though
bloc 05.03.18	Given the shakeup, this PPV is mostly pointless. I swear half the matchups involve guys on different brands now.
DinosaurJones 05.03.18	I don't even know what most of the matches are... Are they doing Lesnar vs Reigns again? Or is it Joe vs Reigns? I know there's the AJ vs Nak no DQ match and Jeff Hardy vs Orton for the US title ...that's all I got.
Storm In A Teacup 05.03.18	I really hope Joe wins and never faces Reigns again
DropTune 05.03.18	Reigns losing on 3 events in a row? You must be dreaming Storm. We all know Reigns is going over Joe. On the bright side, Joe vs. Styles and Joe vs. Nakamura will be fun. If we're lucky, we might even get Joe vs. Bryan.
bloc 05.03.18	Joe is among my favs, but I would think he's gonna lose to RR this Sunday since they're now on different brands and there's no aftermath. If RR loses, that's excellent for Joe, but it just doesn't make sense.
ExhaleTheLight 05.03.18	Joe will win IMO. They're probably gonna build him as the top heel on Smackdown, after the Shinsuke/Styles feud.
DropTune 05.03.18	They'll definitely build him up on SMACKDOWN. There's a lot more breathing room since they traded some mid carders for high carders. With Shinsuke, Bryan, Styles, and Joe leading SMACKDOWN, there will certainly be a lot better matches and segments. Not to knock Kevin and Sami, but those poor guys were stretched thin. At least now we can expect a legit main event scene for the first time since 2016. Miz will help flourish the mid and high cards for a bit. I'm really excited for SMACKDOWN. It's my favorite brand again.
DropTune 05.03.18	Who (*New Day* who? who? who?) am I kidding. NXT is always my favorite brand.
ExhaleTheLight 05.03.18	Except I feel like they will drop Joe if he gets injured again.
DropTune 05.03.18	They will, but you also have to keep in mind any wrestler in that age range is injury prone. Shinsuke, Styles, Bryan, and Joe are a lot older. Wrestlers like them will have nagging injuries. SMACKDOWN has a mostly older roster, but WWE has to work around that in some way. Joe will win the belt before he's retired though. That's the main reason they jumped ship. They're nearing retirement and want to rest at the top. Can't say I blame 'em.
bloc 05.04.18	If Joe can't wrestle anymore, put him on commentary. I remember he did a PPV pre-show recently and was amazing at it.
DropTune 05.04.18	You're giving WWE too much credit. They won't throw him on commentary like that. WWE's commentary is my main issue with the company in general. Aside from stepping up production value and in-ring competition, the commentary is atrocious. NXT's commentary is alright, but RAW and SMACKDOWN are left for dead. I'm so tired of the Byron Saxton jokes, everyone arguing about stupid crap, and Corey Grave's hair. Is that really hair? It's so weird to look at.
bloc 05.04.18	Haha I like Corey a lot.
DinosaurJones 05.04.18	I would actually like Regal on commentary again
DropTune 05.04.18	Corey Grave's hair is so weird though. It's like it wants to be a Mohawk, but it also wants to be classy. Which is it Corey? Pick one!!!
DinosaurJones 05.04.18	It's a new age pompadour
DropTune 05.04.18	His hair should be a meme.
bloc 05.04.18	I actually started to like him more when he couldn't contain his laughter during Titus Worldslide
DropTune 05.04.18	I liked him more as a wrestler than a commentator.
DinosaurJones 05.04.18	He's been inspired by D-Bry and is going to come back as a wrestler. I may have read that somewhere, or maybe I thought of it in a fever haze
DropTune 05.04.18	That would be a waste. He never made his break in NXT.
DinosaurJones 05.04.18	Just another Alex Riley, eh?
DropTune 05.04.18	At the time of his injury he was at his peak in NXT. The problem is Corey Graves never established himself to the point of credibility. He had a couple feuds with Rollins, Zayn, and Neville, but he never did anything memorable. If he were to return, he'd need to go back to NXT and reinvent himself before jumping onto RAW or SMACKDOWN.
DinosaurJones 05.04.18	I wasn't really watching when he was an active wrestler, so I can't really say one way or another.
bloc 05.04.18	Omg Riley has so much potential in the ring. Not to mention he had a wicked theme song. I believe the stories that say it was Cena that buried him for good.
DinosaurJones 05.04.18	Maybe being Miz's lackey is a curse. It happened to Riley & Sandow... let's see what happens to Axel and Bo.
bloc 05.04.18	Damn, that's a good point. The coincidence is crazy. But even Miz is no stranger backstage heat, especially in his early years.
DinosaurJones 05.04.18	Those two are still surprisingly over. But Sandow was SUPER over when he finally turned on Miz. Riley was decently over, I suppose, but tbh I don't really remember.
DropTune 05.04.18	Alex Riley was untapped potential. Same with Bo, Axel, and Sandow. The difference is WWE wouldn't release Bo and Axel. Their family lineage established the wrestling industry. They would *never* deny their people like that. It goes against the business. Sandow was better off released than wasted in a silly gimmick like that. He could find new life on the indies if he felt like it. Alex Riley made more enemies than friends. He didn't mesh well backstage. I'd rather him leave WWE than be in a bad environment backstage. Backstage is more brutal than anywhere else. Believe me, he's *way* better off where he's at.
DinosaurJones 05.04.18	Bo is still really young though, right? Meanwhile, Axel is older than I always remember...
DropTune 05.04.18	Bo is in his early 30's if I remember correctly. He had a great developmental run in the past. I'm very surprised he hasn't gotten a bigger push. His developmental career was spotless.
DinosaurJones 05.04.18	Oh, I thought he was even younger than that, I thought he was still in his 20s. I mean, I have the internet, I could just look it up.
DinosaurJones 05.04.18	Yeah, Bo is 27. Curtis is 38. Apparently Curtis is one of the safest workers though. He's the dude that helped the Rock shake off the ring rust a couple years back.
DropTune 05.04.18	They're very safe workers indeed. WWE just doesn't have anything going for them. It's too late to ship them back to NXT at this point.
bloc 05.04.18	Holy hell Curtis is old. He looks really good for his age
DinosaurJones 05.04.18	Yeah man, he's always older than I think he is. Nearing 40.
DropTune 05.04.18	He'll retire quietly or become a performance center trainer.
bloc 05.04.18	Given his lineage, I am sure he has a position there no matter what. Trainer is the perfect fit for him.
DropTune 05.04.18	He would've been a great worker if not for his lack of charisma. They reinvented the guy multiple times, but the crowd has no respect for him. It's a sad position to see him in. Bo Dallas was poorly mishandled by the main roster. I'm still surprised at how spotless he was in developmental and how horrendous his main roster tenure has been.
DropTune 05.06.18	Backlash predictions: Bayley vs. Ruby Riott [Toss up, but I'm assuming Ruby. She has more momentum] Seth Rollins vs. The Miz [Rollins obviously] Jeff Hardy vs. Randy Orton [I want Hardy, but Orton seems likely.] Nia Jax vs. Alexa Bliss [Jax is a sorry champ, so Bliss for me.] Carmella vs. Charlotte [Charlotte, but I bet WWE will swerve the match.] Roman Reigns vs. Samoa Joe [Unfortunately Reigns has this one.] Daniel Bryan vs. Big Cass [Bryan. Big Cass going over is a waste.] Strowman & Lashley vs. Owens & Zayn [Strowman & Lashley] AJ Styles vs. Shinsuke Nakamura [Nakamura]
DinosaurJones 05.08.18	I just can't get behind Big Cass. I wasn't even a big fan when he and Enzo were still together. He seems so much like another big, bland dude. No character, not exceptional in the ring. He's just "token tall guy #57."
DropTune 05.08.18	Token Tall Guy #57 can't be taught.
DinosaurJones 05.08.18	It's bad when the best thing about Backlash was a segment where there was no wrestling.
DropTune 05.08.18	The opening contest was great. Everything else was a letdown. I give it a 2/5.
DinosaurJones 05.08.18	True. Rollins is one hell of a worker.
bloc 05.08.18	Haha, agreed about the Rollins match and the Elias segment. Everything else was either average or just underwhelming. Man, I knew this was gonna be a safe PPV but damn this one was waaaaay too safe. Even the fuckin Styles/Nak match ended in no contest and the crowd was so pissed. That was probably the worst match to do a no contest on, at least do it for either the Cass match or the Roman match.
ExhaleTheLight 05.08.18	Rollins has now proved he's the best wrestler in the company. He should dethrone Brock buy wwe won't do that.
ExhaleTheLight 05.08.18	The Roman experiment has to end. Wwe wasted a whole year of a marquee main event storyline for reigns to lose TWICE. He truly is disliked now and I feel sorry for the guy not the character .
DinosaurJones 05.08.18	Agreed. I don't know whether they got cold feet due to his reactions, but if that's the case, why haven't they eased off the gas a little bit?
ExhaleTheLight 05.08.18	Because now they think they'll cheer for him instead of Jinder Mahal. Mahal probably became the biggest baby face for making Roman lose lmao
bloc 05.08.18	Roman just needs to be off tv for a while and come back as a smart heel. Women and children will always be there for him, and the men love a good heel (i.e. Sami and KO). It's win-win imo.
ExhaleTheLight 05.08.18	Man Kevin hit his peak when he attacked Vince but from their it was just downhill for him. I hope they re-book him properly going forward.
DinosaurJones 05.08.18	I really, really hate that WWE is so very bad at booking heels. I understand that ultimately faces are going to go over (except in exceedingly rare cases), but does virtually every heel have to be a whiny chickenshit? Jericho in his suit wearing phase was a great heel. KO was a great heel for a little while. They're doing OK with Nak, but they need to stop the low blow deal. I guess Brock is all right, if he would ever show up. They need Joe to be a damn monster.
ExhaleTheLight 05.08.18	Joe will dominate and I cannot wait. Too bad if he feuds with Styles again it will be better than the lackluster AJ and Nakamura feud.
bloc 05.08.18	Speaking of KO, I hate how he and Sami teased a breakup on the PPV. They are sooooo good together. The only problem is that they need to win more instead of being the punching bags for top faces. Also, Lashley needs to turn heel and become the Raw monster heel. And I don't like Roode vs. Elias because both need to be heel as well.
ExhaleTheLight 05.08.18	Honestly I don't really care about Lashley. Just another boring dude with muscles. Never cared for his TNA run
DropTune 05.08.18	Bobby Lashley is a talented worker. Is he a talker? Hell no. Is he a worker? Hell yes. He needs a mouthpiece to sell him. I'd love to see him get a Universal title run. WWE has been playing Styles vs. Nakamura too safe. They're too afraid to let either go over on each other. They implemented the feud as a way to get the IWC involved, but they never go full force. I think they don't want Styles vs. Nakamura to get over because it would outshine Brock Lesnar. These two, even at a B level, can put on the match of the century. I like the aggression both are showing, but they never want their matches to go to the next level.
bloc 05.08.18	That's the problem, WWE has done nothing to put him in the spotlight. Hell, he hasn't even gotten promo time yet or even a video package to show his dominance.
DropTune 05.08.18	WWE are holding back for something. He'll get a program soon I bet.
ExhaleTheLight 05.08.18	Well he finally got his spotlight last Raw... by telling a story of his sisters tying him up in the woods during his interview?? like wtf
bloc 05.08.18	I'll check out Raw today but yeah I heard his promo was wtf haha
ExhaleTheLight 05.08.18	I just want him to destroy Roman or Brock that is all. The dude is in his 40s and needs to be used in an important fashion soon.
bloc 05.08.18	For real, even a blind person could see Lesnar vs. Lashley is an obvious match up
DropTune 05.08.18	Lashley was a beast in MMA. He could drop Lesnar any day. In a wrestling match, though, who knows? I could see Lashley becoming the first black WWE or Universal champion.
bloc 05.09.18	So I saw Raw, and honestly I kinda liked the Lashley interview. It was super sweet. The man is soft spoken as hell haha. However, I don't know if it fits with that they're trying to do with him lol.
DinosaurJones 05.09.18	Holy crap, Rusev went over D-Bry to get into MITB?? I'm so torn over that... but I think it's the right move, since Bryan is so over that even though he just returned, it doesn't hurt him. I also thought that Mandy v Becky was to get into MitB as well... glad that wasn't the case.
bloc 05.09.18	I didn't watch SD yet, but if DB lost to Rusev why the hell couldn't he have lost to Cass at Backlash? At least via a dirty heel tactic or something. Cass losing is much worse than DB losing.
DinosaurJones 05.09.18	I'm also okay with that, but I'm biased. I just don't like Cass. I like Rusev.
DropTune 05.09.18	Are you really trying to say Cass deserves a push more than Rusev? Do you hear yourself right now?
bloc 05.09.18	Cass is 7 feet tall, great on the mic, and yet he tapped sooooo quickly to the yes lock making him look so damn weak at Backlash. He needed the win more than DB did because DB is always gonna be over. If during the match Miz's music randomly started playing so DB got distracted and then he turned around and got kicked in the face by Cass it would have been a great ending to the match. Cass wins like a heel should, and it sets up more heat for Miz vs. DB.
DinosaurJones 05.09.18	great on the mic? we listening to the same dude, bloc?
bloc 05.09.18	C'mon since he came back he's been talking really well. He was excellent on that Miz TV segment a few weeks ago while suited up and sure the midget DB segment was stupid but hell, but he did his part well. At least he didn't write that crap. Plus he JUST got back from an injury and he's losing in his first match ugh.
DinosaurJones 05.09.18	He's gotten better, but I'm still not impressed. Maybe I'm being overly harsh seeing as he just got back, yeah, but he's definitely on my lower tier.
bloc 05.09.18	Anyone think it's weird how Charlotte ended Asuka's epic streak and then Carmella of all women beat her clean at Backlash?
DinosaurJones 05.09.18	YES. That threw me for a loop. Like, the match wasn't even good either. I think Meltzer had it right when he said that the match had to be dumbed down for Carmella, and after that, she wins clean? Not cool. I'm also a huge Asuka fanboi, so...
bloc 05.09.18	The match was terrible yeah. The ending especially made zero sense. Carmella kicks away Charlotte and Charlotte just magically starts going to the top rope? That transition was so weird. And then she tweaks her knee slightly during landing and instantly gets pinned. What about the match right before with Rollins and Miz? Rollins fucked up his knee halfway through the match, powered through, and still won the damn match. All while selling the busted the knee. The women's match just made zero sense in that regard. Meltzer has a point, because Carmella is not the greatest in the ring. I really really want her to succeed though, because her mic skills are amazing. I would've been fine with Iiconics coming in as a distraction or something.
DinosaurJones 05.09.18	I just want Asuka or Becky as champ.
DropTune 05.09.18	The IIconics interfering would have made sense, however, Meltzer is correct in saying the match had to be dumbed down. Charlotte is the pinnacle of the division overall. Her and Asuka are classically trained in wrestling as a whole. Carmella, although going through NXT, only knows enough to work with them, but not go over them. She's not versatile, charismatic, or fluid in-ring. Her character gets her over, so she doesn't need wrestling to back her up. This is problematic because her flaws are easy to see. She can't maintain a decent speed, fluid moveset, or take any bumps. She's so condensed in the eyes of the viewer. Her moveset mostly relies on takedowns, hurricanranas, and maybe a DDT.
DropTune 05.09.18	As far as Big Cass, it's similar to Brodus Clay. His previous gimmick ruined his persona. Clay would have been a great monster heel, but WWE screwed that before it started. The same goes with Big Cass. Cass has charisma, but he's not credible in his position. Being an arrogant heel doesn't sell with the way he was presented. His in-ring ability is average to say the least. He can carry a match, but he's not able to put on a barnstormer. He knows enough to get himself over, which is fine I guess. I don't see him evolving into a bigger star, and if so, it would suck. He's no Mark Henry or Big Show. He can't tap into a monster heel gimmick and be believable. Cass going over Bryan would have been a bad decision anyways. What would Cass do from there? Rusev has momentum to back him up. What does Cass have? He'd crack under pressure.
DinosaurJones 05.09.18	That's a good comparison, actually. Those weeks of vignettes hyping Clay up as a monster, then having him coming out being the "dancing big guy," did they really expect that to get him over? His backup dancer is now a SD womens' champ, and I'm pretty sure he's retired from the business? If Cass were to improve in the ring, I'd buy into him a little more, tbh.
bloc 05.09.18	Cass will forever be haunted by Enzo, that's for sure. And ugh I wish they kept Ellesworth with Carmella, that was a money couple. He could always interfere in matches and cover for her lack of wrestling skills.
DinosaurJones 05.09.18	Yeah, that boggles the mind that they dropped Ellsworth like that. He was on SD every week, than *boom* he's gone. I listened to an episode of Talk is Jericho that he was on after he was released, and he was super grateful for the opportunity and still in awe that he was in the WWE for a year though. Pretty cool that he kept a level head about it. Also, he and Carmella are apparently still friends too, which is nice.
bloc 05.09.18	I believe they only signed him for one year, so once he did the job to Becky he took his leave. He was pretty popular and I think he could have gone far in that role.
DinosaurJones 05.09.18	I'd do the job to Becky, tbh. Not that I'd have to, she could legit kick my ass, I'm sure. But yeah, I think Carmella would still have more heat if Ellsworth was still around.
DropTune 05.09.18	James Ellsworth beat AJ Styles when no one else could. HE BEAT AJ STYLES!!!!
bloc 05.09.18	Lol forgot that he beat him. More than once too haha
DropTune 05.09.18	That means James Ellsworth is the most powerful wrestler on the WWE roster.
DinosaurJones 05.09.18	#BeatUpJohnCena
bloc 05.09.18	And little Nicholas from Wrestlemania has the best win-loss record of all time. He even retired as champ!
bloc 05.09.18	#BeatUpJohnCena is quite literally the best hashtag WWE has ever made up lol. It just rolls off the tongue. I used to mark out when AJ and The Club said it.
DinosaurJones 05.09.18	I can't help but say it with a slight Southern accent thanks to AJ Styles.
bloc 05.09.18	Lmao same duuude haha
DinosaurJones 05.09.18	I'm really hoping that Gallows & Anderson on SD will be much better for them than being on RAW
bloc 05.09.18	I wouldn't have minded it if AJ reforms with them, while Axel and Bo became the new entourage for Nak. That would be amazing lol.
DropTune 05.09.18	Just imagine Bo and Axel doing their best attempt at a Chaos impersonation.
SIIMBOLIC 05.10.18	Bo deserves more than being a slightly glorified jobber
DinosaurJones 05.10.18	I agree. He did great in NXT, but I think by now we know that doing great in NXT means nothing for the main roster *coughASCENSIONcough*
bloc 05.10.18	Yep, if you want more money then it's the best news ever, but for the most part getting called up from NXT to the main roster means death. Especially for tag teams.
DinosaurJones 05.10.18	I dunno, I feel like they're trying to make AoP into the next big tag team.
DropTune 05.10.18	Authors of Pain defied a lot of expectations in NXT. I'm actually surprised at how great they've been since debuting. They put on countless great matches over their developmental career. The main roster wouldn't waste them as much as the others. AOP are what they want out of a tag team anyways. I can already see Heavy Machinery, Street Prophets, and TM-61 getting wasted once called up.
DinosaurJones 05.10.18	That's true, I never expected AoP to get as over as they did. On the other hand, I agree with your other points as well. I see Heavy Machinery being another joke team, and I don't even foresee Street Prophets or TM-61 getting called up, at least not as teams.
bloc 05.10.18	AoP has been on tv like twice now? That's nothing. Even No Way Jose has been on tv more than that.
DinosaurJones 05.10.18	I just want Sanity to debut. I wish they didn't leave Nikki in NXT, but the women's roster down there is looking a little anemic. It also occurs to me that there might be 2 Nikkis on the main roster if Cross gets called up and Bella comes back.
DropTune 05.10.18	The Bella Twins never did or accomplished anything meaningful in their tenure. They were obsolete the second the first wave of the women's revolution hit. They were able to adapt to the shift in wrestling quality, but their own lackluster in-ring skills got the best of them. They can't carry a match with anyone.
bloc 05.10.18	I think they kept Nikki down there so that they have one strong woman to go against Shayna for the title. Nikki Cross is fine as hell and I love her gimmick but I dunno if it would fly on the main roster. And good point about there being 2 Nikki's now. Didn't even think of that. But now that Bella and Cena have broken up...hehehehe
DropTune 05.10.18	Nikki Cross would be a major addition to the women's roster. Her gimmick is over-the-top for casual audiences, but at least her and Asuka would put on a hell of a feud. I'd like to see Shinsuke team with Sanity and recreate how he lead Chaos through NJPW. Reuniting AJ with the Good Brothers during the feud would lead to a huge faction war. That would be nice.
DinosaurJones 05.10.18	I feel like they've been kind of ambitious with all the women call ups. It's just always going to be a smaller, yet more crowded roster with only one belt on each show. Now the women's divisions on the main shows are starting to get cluttered, while the NXT division doesn't have as many strong/prepared characters.
bloc 05.10.18	The mass women callup could be a sign that either women's tag team belts are coming, or an all women live show.
DinosaurJones 05.10.18	I feel like women's tag belts are more likely. An all women live show would be cool, but they run the risk of just too much product. I don't think they're quite there yet, but I kind of wish it was spread out more throughout the week. Mon+Tues+Wed kinda sucks, in my opinion.
DropTune 05.10.18	WWE is trying to stack their women's roster to be on par with the rest of the wrestling world. NXT doesn't have any established/credible women to carry it aside from Nikki Cross. Dakota Kai and Vanessa Born weren't built enough as is. Now that they're getting the proper development, they'll have to build other stars like Lacey, Candice, and Kairi to get on par. With another Mae Young Classic in the works, who knows at this point.
bloc 05.10.18	On another note, I have also hear that the Cena and Bella breakup is a work. And on the other side of it, I have heard that Cena and Carmella are now a thing.
DropTune 05.10.18	You need to stop reading the online gossip.
DinosaurJones 05.10.18	I have heard neither of those things. But if Cena & Carmella ARE a thing... that's quite the upgrade from Cass, (politically speaking)
bloc 05.10.18	"You need to stop reading the online gossip." Haha but it's so much fun. If the Cena and Carmella thing is true, it could explain why she's champ.
DinosaurJones 05.10.18	Also, I don't know why I thought of this, but a couple years ago (at least 6, because I was still in college) Atomic was over at my apartment while I was watching WWE, and he doesn't usually watch. But that night, Sheamus was in a match, and there was someone in the crowd holding a sign that said "SHEANUS" Now every once in awhile, Atomic will still send me a random text that says "SHEANUS"
bloc 05.10.18	LMAO that is brilliant
DinosaurJones 05.10.18	Definitely one of my favorite crowd signs that I've ever seen.
ExhaleTheLight 05.10.18	the Crispin Wah one was good too.
DropTune 05.11.18	My favorite signs were the Cesaro section ones they used to make. There are a few more I have to list. I make signs when I go to NXT every now and then.
DinosaurJones 05.11.18	WE'VE CENA NUFF (hurr hurr hurr) BATISTA *picture of a bomb*
DropTune 05.11.18	There's one sign I saw that I thought was funny: "Roman Reigns Drinks Water for the Taste."
ExhaleTheLight 05.13.18	Bloc I think you're right about Cena and Carmella HOLY SHIT
DropTune 05.13.18	That's all fake. It's all meant to sell Total Divas.
ExhaleTheLight 05.13.18	I hope it is, Carmella is such a downgrade imo
DropTune 05.13.18	I'm hoping MitB is better than Backlash at this point. Most "bad" pay-per-views are average at best. None are atrociously terrible, but Backlash was one of those rare ones that was so freaking bad. I can understand Charlotte, who is working injured, doing a slower paced match for her own safety. But what was the point of that? The main event had some good spots, I'll give it that, but there was no energy or meaning to it. I don't know whose idea that was.
DinosaurJones 05.15.18	So I didn't watch RAW (tbh, I usually don't anymore), but WWE always puts up highlights on FB. I saw a backstage brawl between Mahal & Reigns, and as they came back out onto the stage, the boos for Reigns were pretty astounding. If the plan was for Mahal to get some heat on Reigns, they basically turned Mahal face by default. Also, I think Jax vs Rousey has a 90% chance of being a dumpster fire. I also saw a highlight of Owens & Zayn at ringside while Reigns was coming out to the ring, and the camera was just filming them, and those two are honestly hilarious together. Reigns' music hits, and Owens started to clap while Zayn yelled "Why are you clapping for him?!" Owens: "He's the best one on their team! ...and I kinda like him a little bit."
DropTune 05.15.18	In all fairness, I'm sure Jax and Rousey will do fine. They're both decent workers, albeit limited, but can carry themselves in ring. The only thing making the feud a dumpster fire is Jax's character, who is the worst face in pro-wrestling. What would have been good is to make her the female equivalent of Braun Strowman. She would have gotten over and fans would have been happy. You have other people to use as an inspiration to little girls. That's the entire purpose of Bayley, yet they buried her 12 feet under. Nia Jax doesn't sell the role and it only makes her reign further useless in retrospect. She's a forgettable paper champion who will only serve to put Rousey over. WWE cornered themselves with bad booking last year which is why this year is suffering. Putting Roman Reigns over Strowman killed any momentum leading into Wrestlemania. The only people credible enough to challenge Lesnar right now is Rollins or Strowman. Rollins hasn't been screwed over and Strowman is at his peak. Common sense would have one of the two beat Lesnar and feud with the other for the belt. Balor has been diminished to a mid-carder for reasons unknown.
DinosaurJones 05.15.18	A combination of Finn being smaller, plus his injury after being put over as the first Universal Champion (which honestly was no one's fault, shit happens) probably gave Vince cold feet, which is a shame. I was very excited to see him given a run with the title, and he was super hot at the time. And I agree about the terrible booking. People are bored with Lesnar, and disappointed in him. I know I am. But neither of those things are enough to get anyone excited about Reigns going over him, which doesn't even seem like it's going to happen anymore? It's been drawn out too long, and there's isn't a REAL good solution... if they book someone else over Lesnar, it's basically admitting defeat over the Reigns experiment, which has been going on for literally years. On the other hand, no one cares about Reigns anyways.
DropTune 05.15.18	Brock Lesnar's purpose was to remove CM Punk from the history books. That's it -- nothing else. WWE screwed themselves by overvaluing the Universal Championship and trashing the WWE Championship in the process. The WWE Championship hasn't been in the main event of a pay-per-view since Fastlane. The belt has been treated like an afterthought since last summer. The Intercontinental Championship is the most prestigious belt right now. On top of that, WWE is limiting themselves by making everyone else pale in comparison to Brock Lesnar. The only guy who really pushed Lesnar to his limits was AJ Styles. No one else took him to the point of almost tapping. Lesnar limped to the back. Styles INJURED Lesnar. Not even Joe, Strowman, or Roman could do that. There's no one left to actually invest in aside from Rollins or Strowman at this point. What WWE should have done is put Reigns over at Wrestlemania. The swerved the match just for the sake of swerving. There was no second guessing involved. They just thought "oh well the crowd thinks Reigns is going over, so let's have him lose." The crowd hated the match anyways. It doesn't matter who wins or loses. No one likes Lesnar or Reigns: they're disappointments. WWE spent a year building Reigns as a standard bearer just to have him wasted. We buried Rollins, Ambrose, Strowman, Joe, Balor, and Miz for Roman's spot at the top -- and he loses?!? They went through all the effort to isolate Roman Reigns at the top just to have him lose. There lies the problem. A simple solution would have been to put Reigns over in Saudi, but they couldn't do that. Lesnar had to retain just for the sake of knocking off a stupid meaningless record. Nevermind the fact the Universal Championship hasn't done a damn thing in 2 years, we're going to keep it off TV for another few months just so Lesnar can be a legend. Who's going to challenge him now? Every guy on the roster is weak in comparison.
DinosaurJones 05.15.18	Joe going over Lesnar would have been amazing. People can argue for Strowman, but as over as he is, I don't think I would have liked that outcome. He may have organically become a face, but I think he would work better as a heel. Joe may not be as established in WWE, but he has years of worth behind him, and it would have put him over immensely. I do wonder though, if anyone that goes over Lesnar will become a face by default. Sans Reigns, of course. I don't know how to save that dude, even a heel turn wouldn't do it most likely.
DropTune 05.15.18	Roman going heel would have worked to his benefit. When Shield debuted back in 2013, they were heels. That's how they got over. That's what fans remember them as. Roman worked in that dynamic because it emphasized his strengths. He was brute force who power-bombed his way to the top. Since he's been removed from that dynamic, Reigns has been left to his own devices. He can't connect with the crowd in that way because no one buys him as "the guy." Granted the crowd is biased as is, but there's nothing to invest in with Reigns. No one believes the company is against him. If they were against Reigns, he would be a mid-carder. He'd be fighing for tag belts or something. He wouldn't be fighting for the Universal Title if Vince hated him. That narrative makes no sense. Why would a company THAT HATES YOU put you in the main event of their biggest event? Why would they give you another opportunity at an international showcase? Why would they book you one week later at a follow up show? None of the story adds up. There was no pay-off or resolution. Roman is picking up the scraps for a poorly booked feud and is the scapegoat for its horrible turn out. At this point his stock is trash and is the least convincing guy on the roster. It's not really his fault. He can only work with what he has. The issue is that the current RAW environment has no one good enough to be imposing to Brock Lesnar. Even Lashley, who made the most sense, is going against Elias and other mid-carders. None of the feud makes any sense. Everyone was buried for the sake of it, and for that, everyone suffers.
DinosaurJones 05.15.18	Yeah, the "company is against me" bit is so out of touch it's insane. Even casual fans know that if someone in the company was against you, you wouldn't main event 4 PPVs in a row. You wouldn't main event 3 WMs in a row. How are you supposed to buy into that?
DropTune 05.15.18	Enough about Roman. Let's talk about the real loss of the night. That poor trophy was destroyed. R.I.P. Greatest Trophy. Gone but not forgotten.
DinosaurJones 05.15.18	The B Team is gonna get those tag titles.
ExhaleTheLight 05.15.18	WWE has the capability to put the B Team over, honestly Axel deserves positive spotlight after going through so much poor booking over the years. I also can't believe Lashley got booed to hell. Maybe people think he'll regain that Roman Reigns push like back in 07'? Enough can't be said about Seth Rollins. He IS the biggest babyface right now. His journey from being a poorly received babyface to now being THE best wrestler in the company and extremely over with the fans. The ending to the IC match with Owens was straight outta the Eddie G. playbook
DinosaurJones 05.15.18	I would pop for the B Team. I really hope they don't treated like a joke. Underdogs, sure, but not a joke. Breezango are a joke team. They have charisma, they're talented wrestlers, but they're a joke team. I don't want them to go that route with the B Team, this really is a good chance to get them over.
ExhaleTheLight 05.15.18	I would cheer for them too. I don't want them to dethrone Bray and Matt just yet though
ExhaleTheLight 05.15.18	Or they probably will just for the shock factor.
DinosaurJones 05.15.18	I'm actually at a loss as to who is going to win the MITB Though I can see Bliss taking the women's MITB... seems likely to me. I'm already irritated the Becky and Bayley aren't already in it.
ExhaleTheLight 05.15.18	Bliss is bae, I want her to win.
DinosaurJones 05.15.18	I like Bliss, but they basically sacrificed Bayley to get her over. That Kendo Stick match just destroyed any build that Bayley had.
ExhaleTheLight 05.15.18	Bayley was great in NXT, but honestly coming into the main roster, her character was never gonna get over with the fans, maybe the kids.
kris. 05.15.18	she's over with me at least :3 bayley is queen
DropTune 05.15.18	When you bring up the Bayley/Alexa scenario, you have to understand why it was done. WWE never had plans for Bayley to "get over" on the main roster. Bayley is a great worker, her style is appealing, but she's basically the women's equivalent to Zack Ryder. She's meant to sell merch. That's her role, it sucks, but that's it. WWE didn't find her attractive enough to carry the women's division and opted for Alexa. Despite being limited in-ring, Alexa Bliss embodies the appeal they want. That's the same reason Trish Stratus got over Lita, and Kelly Kelly over Beth Phoenix. It's an arbitrary standard they uphold backstage. None of it is designed on wrestling ability because character is more important. That's why Cesaro will never get over, nor will Bayley.
ExhaleTheLight 05.15.18	Cesaro's case is different though, it's simply because they don't believe he can carry promos.
ExhaleTheLight 05.15.18	Which is hypocritical because look at Roman Reigns who has improved but still is a sucking succotash
kintups55 05.15.18	I've been going back and watching some old PPVs and I really forgot how lacking WWF was in roster depth in 1996 and the first half of 1997. Resorting to midget matches (or WWF Minis as they were calling them) and bringing in random wrestlers from AAA that none of the fans were ever familiar with. The turnaround they made in a year is really quite amazing.
bloc 05.15.18	Turn Roman heel, have AoP as his backing goons and you got money
DinosaurJones 05.16.18	Becky is in! Her probability of winning is super low, but I was almost positive they were going to put Mandy over her.
SIIMBOLIC 05.16.18	becky is on the road to Dolph status if they don't do something quickly. And droptune cesaro is over as fuck
DropTune 05.16.18	>Cesaro's case is different though, it's simply because they don't believe he can carry promos. First, Cesaro is over with fans -- not management. Cesaro is a throwback wrestler. His style is great, he's innovative, and he can work with anyone. Promo skills are a factor in his lack of a push, but that's not the only reason. WWE can work around that by giving him a manager. Promos aren't the be-all-end-all when it comes to pushing people. When has Brock cut a promo? Heyman does the talking for him. Fans invest in Cesaro because he's a genuine wrestler. Fans flip-flop with Bayley because of how she's presented. Europe loves her to death, but people in the U.S. go from cheering to booing her. WWE fails to emphasize strengths of certain wrestlers which is why the turnover of NXT talent takes place.
SIIMBOLIC 05.16.18	well cesaro is top 3 best wrestlers in wwe along with Seth and AJ, and he's an objectively better promo than roman. He's also 6'5 ripped as fuck and ridiculously strong
DropTune 05.16.18	I never put out hate toward Cesaro. I agree he's in the pinacle of WWE's roster in terms of wrestling ability. I'd go as far to place him among the likes of Styles, Rollins, and Shinsuke. No one can take that away from Cesaro. Ever since his match with Cena a few years ago, along with his classic with Sami Zayn, Cesaro has been a cult hero. It's a shame how he's treated, but that's the way business works. Everyone has a role...
SIIMBOLIC 05.16.18	yeah thats true hey. But man would I love a cesaro v Aj match. Holy shit
DinosaurJones 05.16.18	It's silly, because whatever role they put Cesaro at, he excels in. Cesaro and Kidd were a great tag team, and it still sucks what happened to Kidd. The Bar are great together as well. Cesaro has natural charisma, even if he isn't the best talker. He really should get a nice push before all is said and done.
DropTune 05.16.18	Tyson Kidd was extremely underrated. I feel bad for the guy. He almost died in that dark match with Joe. Only a slim number of people actually survive that kind of injury.
DinosaurJones 05.16.18	Yeah, from all accounts he was lucky as all hell that he survived and also is able to walk and move around under his own power. Still sucks that his in-ring career is over though.
kintups55 05.16.18	When I watched Raw every week up until around 2015, Cesaro was routinely one of the guys I got the most excited about watching in the ring. It's a darn shame someone like Triple H who typically likes the top level workers and throwback wrestlers doesn't seem to go to bat for him. A lot of those John Laurinaitis signed talent don't get a lot of love (Besides The Shield guys), which is mostly good because he signed a lot of garbage, but the good wrestlers that were few and far between seem to get the shaft.
ExhaleTheLight 05.17.18	Doesn't matter what Trips thinks. At the end of the day its all Vince.
kintups55 05.17.18	The bottom line always comes down to Vince, and that's why he chooses who he does to main event WrestleMania and most the PPVs. Yet Vince seems to have some respect for Triple H's opinions, otherwise I doubt Shinsuke, Owens, or Joe would have ever gotten the decent main roster runs and wins that they have.
DropTune 05.18.18	You're giving Triple H too much credit. He really doesn't do as much as most of you think. He's a good ideas guy, but he doesn't have that much pull. That's why 205 Live and NXT have a massive amount of turnovers. Vince McMahon knows wrestling as a business and entertainment, but not in terms of actual "wrestling." He was never a big fan of a sport-heavy company. That's why the Attitude Era never had a lot of wrestling involved unless it was a pay-per-view. RAW had some good matches here and there, but it was mostly just skits. My problems with the Attitude Era are for another day, but that's the ideology Vince McMahon follows. Entertain first wrestle second.
ExhaleTheLight 05.18.18	Hopefully he will give some creative control when he the XFL starts but it isn't likely. The dude is a control freak.
DropTune 05.20.18	Vince McMahon is tough but fair. Granted the term "fair" is loose here, but he does actually give wrestlers a chance to impress him. The dude is a control freak no doubt. He'll give you a gimmick just because it makes him laugh. No one is going to tell him no after all. Not even Shane or Stephanie can do that. Vince just values different things. In his defense, he does have to answer to investors after all. If a certain wrestler affects his investors, he doesn't have a choice than to change it. That's why Bray Wyatt is misused. Despite having the most original and intriguing gimmick in a long time, he pushed it "too far" on TV. Now look at him: he's cracking jokes with Matt Hardy. Not to berate Hardy or anything. He's obviously passionate and having fun with Broken Matt. I'm just waiting for him to go full broken.
bloc 05.21.18	Get this list to 3000 comments and I'll kill Vince
DinosaurJones 05.21.18	Well, we're almost there. Will you blow up his limo?
bloc 05.22.18	Need something more certain, he survived the first one
DinosaurJones 05.22.18	What about dropping the stage set on him?
DropTune 05.22.18	F5?
bloc 05.22.18	F6
Storm In A Teacup 05.22.18	Book bloc
bloc 05.22.18	I'll cash in my "Money in the Ban" briefcase to become World Sputnik Champion
DinosaurJones 05.22.18	I'd be a low-tier Sput champ, like European champ or some shit.
DropTune 05.23.18	BAH GAWD MAGGLE! BLOC HITS ROMAN WITH AN F6! AN F6 MAGGLE! BAH GAWD HE HAS TO BE DEAD! BLOC FOR THE PIN! 1... 2... AND VINNIE MAC KICKS OUT! MCMAHON IS CRAZY!
bloc 05.23.18	Lmao who's in this match? Triple threat?
ExhaleTheLight 05.23.18	Either Kevin Owens or the Miz will win MITB. I'm calling it
DropTune 05.23.18	THE CROWD'S GOING WILD! If bloc wins, he gets a majority stake in WWE. I don't know J.R., I can't imagine bloc running the WWE. Vince McMahon is a living legend. Sports-entertainment can't survive without him. That remains to be seen Maggle. Ever since bloc defeated Brock Lesnar, fans are sure he's going to change wrestling for the better. Oh... oh no J.R. Bloc is taking McMahon TO THE TOP ROPE! I can't watch! Maggle, I think this is the end. If Bloc hits a top rope F6, McMahon's going to be hanging on the unemployment line. Wait! What's this? Through the crowd -- it's Triple H! HE HAS A SLEDGEHAMMER! BAH GAWD! TRIPLE H KNOCKED HIM FROM THE TOP ROPE! MCMAHON IS SAVED! BLOC IS OUT COLD! SLEDGEHAMMER TO THE KNEE! HE FELL FROM THE THIRD ROPE FACE FIRST TO THE CANVAS! MCMAHON FOR THE COVER! 1... 2... 3! MCMAHON WON! MCMAHON WON! TRIPLE H SCREWED HIM OVER! ITS THE SPUTNIK SCREW JOB!!!
bloc 05.23.18	looooooooool perfect
bloc 05.23.18	That segment with Bobby Lashley's 3 sisters will probably be the dumbest segment all year lmao. I liked Bobby in it though, he was great on the mic. Sami too of course.
DropTune 05.23.18	I don't get their endgame with Bobby Lashley. I can't tell if he's getting buried or pushed.
bloc 05.23.18	Same, but remember how Braun's first singles feud was also with Sami/Kalisto? Seems like they're trying to copy that path...except now Sami is the heel and because of that, it's a nonsensical match up.
DropTune 05.23.18	It doesn't do anything for either Sami or Lashley. Lashley should be feuding with McIntyre or Strowman.
Minushuman24 05.26.18	I assume Bobby isn't feuding with them, because they all gotta be protected
DropTune 05.26.18	WWE is only protecting McIntyre, Strowman, and Lesnar at the moment. At least on RAW that is. SMACKDOWN is having a bidding war between Styles, Nakamura, Lesnar, Bryan, and Joe.
DropTune 05.30.18	Big Cass ruins everything.
DinosaurJones 05.30.18	Why Why Why Why WHY is Lana in the MitB??
DropTune 05.30.18	It makes sense in the context of Lana being a wildcard. She's not expected to win, but if she does, at least it would be interesting. After the embarrassing dance off with Naomi, I don't want to see either of them to be honest.
DinosaurJones 05.31.18	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVruAfu53z4 So... "Enzo Amore" just released a new rap song... he calls himself Real1 now At one point, I wanted to defend this guy, but now... uhhhhhh...
DinosaurJones 05.31.18	CONSENSUAL PENIS
DinosaurJones 05.31.18	Actually... it's not as bad as I thought it would be. It's not great, but I thought it would be far, far worse.
DropTune 05.31.18	I hated it. Enzo is a dumbass and doesn't deserve any attention.
bloc 06.02.18	Not a fan of the song, but it got better as the song went on.
DropTune 06.02.18	He's a certified G and a bonafied dud.
ExhaleTheLight 06.02.18	For the first time in awhile I've stopped watching the product. Don't know why all this bad booking us going on, just makes me uninterested. Ambrose save us please.
DropTune 06.03.18	NXT is good. Loving the Gargano feud.
bloc 06.03.18	205 is pretty sweet too. Every episode as at least one amazing match.
DropTune 06.03.18	That Buddy Murphy match has to be *the* best Cruiserweight match I've seen since TJP vs. Gran Metalik for the Cruiserweight title.
DropTune 06.03.18	Chick Magnet Punk Crooked Moonsault Punk Cookie Monster Punk Cookie Master Punk Chicago Made Punk Chuck Mosley Punk Charles Montgomery Punk Charles Manson Punk
bloc 06.03.18	I always assumed it was Chicago Made. He was smart to keep the name and not let WWE take it.
bloc 06.03.18	But man I wish Buddy won the CW title. He's getting more and more credible with every week. Plus he has one of the best physiques in the company.
DropTune 06.04.18	He was usually the best part of NXT Live events. Every house show had one great performance by him.
bloc 06.09.18	Johnny Mundo/Nitro/Impact etc is gonna be on the next season of Survivor and I am hyped
DropTune 06.09.18	Eh... seems like a career regression in his case.
calmrose 06.10.18	Punk gets walloped again
DropTune 06.10.18	Well, what'cha gonna do? Punk is happy where he's at.
bloc 06.10.18	At least he won the court case to soften the blow lol
calmrose 06.10.18	yeah that's true
bloc 06.10.18	3000 comments. Time to kill Vince.
DropTune 06.10.18	Let's all take a moment to appreciate how good NJPW Dominion was. That as an AMAZING event. Money in the Bank is destined to fail, but at least NXT will continue the trend of putting the big 5 to shame.
calmrose 06.10.18	Okada/Omega IV was a thing of beauty, stunning match
DropTune 06.10.18	I also liked the Junior Heavyweight match. That one was a doozy.
bloc 06.10.18	Oh fuck I totally forgot that was this week. Gonna watch tonight hopefully.
DropTune 06.10.18	It was last night. I think you'll enjoy it. All of the matches are top notch. Jericho vs. Naito, Legends vs. Bullet Club, Okada vs. Omega, everything's fantastic! I'm glad I didn't post a review like I wanted to haha. I didn't want to spoil anything.
DropTune 06.12.18	Quick RAW Review: Opening promo (1.5/5), Women's Fatal-4-Way (3/5), Breezango vs. Ziggler and McIntyre, (2.7/5), Roman Reigns Segment/Squash Match (2.3/5), B-Team vs. Slater and Rhyno (2.3/5), Elias Segment (2.4/5), Ruby Riott vs. Bayley (2.5/5), Ronda Rousey Segment (1.9/5), Curt Hawkins vs. No Way Jose (2.5/5), Sami Zayn Segment (0/5), Men's Fatal-4-Way (3/5) Whole Review:https://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19321378#post19321378
bloc 06.13.18	Good God, Jericho at Dominion was amazing. He's such a good heel in Japan.
rufinthefury 06.13.18	Dominion best pay per view we will ever see in our lives
DropTune 06.13.18	Like I said, Dominion was spectacular.
bloc 06.15.18	So the first episode of Lucha Underground Season 4 was flames. They haven't lost a step.
DropTune 06.16.18	I haven't had a chance to watch it yet. I wish it wasn't on the El Rey Network. Hopefully Netflix gets to purchasing it in the near future. Anyways, here's my current predictions: NXT Takeover: Chigago Ciampa Ricochet Baszler Undisputed Era (I really want Lorcan to get the win, but meh) Aleister Black Money in the Bank: Shinsuke (wishful thinking) Rousey Bludgeon Brothers Natalya or Sasha Banks Carmella Samoa Joe Seth Rollins Roman Reigns Big Cass Bobby Lashley
bloc 06.16.18	Damn I almost forgot Takeover was tonight, super hyped for it. That Chicago crowd should be nuts.
calmrose 06.17.18	well, just based on that first match, Takeover will destroy MITB, not surprising at all though since it's been the status quo for awhile now insanely good first match to start the show
calmrose 06.17.18	Gargano and Ciampa killing each other edit: wow, that mach was vicious
bloc 06.17.18	At this point, I just hope the briefcase matches are good. Another crazy good Takeover. My 2 nigs Dream and Ricochet killed it as expected.
DinosaurJones 06.17.18	I was hanging out with my college friends tonight, but I do want to see TakeOver. I can't imagine it disappointing.
Deez 06.17.18	That Gargano / Ciampa match was crazy. Those 2 work so well together
DropTune 06.17.18	Takeover Ratings: Undisputed Era vs. Lorcan and Burch (4/5) Velveteen Dream vs. Ricochet (5/5) Nikki Cross vs. Shayna Baszler (3.3/5) Lars Sullivan vs. Aleister Black (3.8/5) Tomasso Ciampa vs. Johnny Gargano (6/5) Full Review:
calmrose 06.18.18	hey, James Ellsworth is back...awesome
bloc 06.18.18	I'm glad he made an appearance to help Carmella. No way it makes sense for her to win straight up. So far, the PPV is solid. Only issues are the Roman match in which the crowd did not give a single shit lol and the winner of the women's ladder match. I don't think Alexa should have won that.
DinosaurJones 06.18.18	Alexa won?? Ugghhhhh... I think the only person I wanted to win LESS than her was Lana
calmrose 06.18.18	yeah Alexa was an odd/lame choice for winner ppv is only okay so far, bordering on sub-par, Rollins vs. Elias was great and the women's ladder match was great aside from the winner Reigns vs. Mahal and Zayn vs. Lashley were both terrible and Bryan vs. Cass was better than expected, pretty decent match Carmella vs. Asuka was okay, though it's pretty lame that it took only Ellsworth dressed in the gown and mask to completely take Asuka out of the match with that distraction
DinosaurJones 06.18.18	I was really hoping Becky would win the briefcase.
calmrose 06.18.18	same
calmrose 06.18.18	goddamn that final low blow kick Styles gave Nak had to have just obliterated his balls, geez dope match
Deez 06.18.18	hahaha peeps gonna be even more pissed now
calmrose 06.18.18	I wonder if they had Strowman win just so they could make Cole say MONSTER IN THE BANK also, this better mean Strowman cashes in on Lesnar and finally takes the belt off him, Lesnar's reign has been atrocious
DropTune 06.18.18	Money in the Bank 2018 Review: Bludgeon Brothers vs. Gallows and Anderson (2/5) Daniel Bryan vs. Big Cass (2.5/5) Bobby Lashley vs. Sami Zayn (1.5/5) Seth Rollins vs. Elias (3/5) Women's Money in the Bank (3.5/5) Roman Reigns vs. Jinder Mahal (1.5/5) Carmella vs. Asuka (2.5/5) AJ Styles vs. Shinsuke Nakamura (3.5/5) Ronda Rousey vs. Nia Jax (3/5) Men's Money in the Bank (3.5/5) Overall: (3/5) Full Review: https://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?p=19321590#post19321590
DinosaurJones 06.18.18	Just finished TakeOver. And it was awesome. Not a bad match on the card. ...I have far less desire to watch MitB.
DropTune 06.18.18	Tough luck for ya there.
calmrose 06.18.18	dang, tough scores for Rollins/Elias and Styles/Nakamura, both of those were at least 4/5 imo, Styles and Nak probably like a 4.25
bloc 06.18.18	Ok I finally watched the men's bank match and overall yeah this PPV wasn't as great as I was initially saying. Forgot that Lashley match was in there too lol. Alexa cashing in was unexpected but damn man she was just champ like last year, at least give someone else a chance. I think anyone who's already been a women's champ with the last year or so doesn't really need a briefcase to get a title shot again. The men's one was rowdy but it was kinda short no? Felt like it was no more than 15 min from start to end. I also didn't like Braun winning. He's so freaking huge and over he doesn't need the briefcase to get a title shot.
calmrose 06.18.18	the two things I'll remember from this PPV are the stiff kick to the dick Styles gave Nak and Owens being thrown from the ladder, pretty sure he's dead
bloc 06.18.18	Yep those were really nice spots. Anyone catch the botch when Becky had the briefcase in hand with the lock unlatched and she was just frantically searching around for Alexa to come and tip the ladder over. Ugh, she should have just taken the damn briefcase right then and there.
DinosaurJones 06.19.18	I stopped watching during Reigns/Mahal, which is a coincidence since I was done with work, and also had 0 investment in the match itself. I think I'm going to resume now.
Storm In A Teacup 06.19.18	always good seeing spots where you're pretty sure Kevin Owens died but I haven't watched any wrestling in a couple months and it doesn't sound like i've missed much
DinosaurJones 06.19.18	NXT TakeOvers always deliver, IMO Storm. It seems like NJPW is killing it too. The main WWE roster is less than stellar, as usual.
DropTune 06.19.18	>dang, tough scores for Rollins/Elias and Styles/Nakamura, both of those were at least 4/5 imo, Styles and Nak probably like a 4.25 I'm a tough grader. Those matches weren't 4 worthy imo. Rollins vs. Elias had a slow first half and didn't pick up until the end. Styles vs. Nakamura was also sluggish for the most part. They weren't bad matches, but they weren't as dynamic as they should have been. 4 worthy would be something like the gauntlet match on RAW before the Elimination Chamber or Johnny Gargano vs. Velveteen Dream on NXT before Takeover: Philadelphia.
DropTune 06.19.18	RAW 6/18/18 Review Alexa Bliss Celebration (2.5/5) Dolph Ziggler vs. Seth Rollins (2.5/5) Bobby Roode vs. Curt Hawkins (1.5/5) Braun Strowman Segment (2/5) Deleter of Worlds vs. Slater and Rhyno (2/5) Chad Gable vs. Jinder Mahal (1.5/5) Sasha Banks and Bayley vs. The Riott Squad (2/5) Kurt Angle Announcement (2.5/5) Roman Reigns and Bobby Lashley vs. The Revival (2/5) Mojo Rawley vs. No Way Jose (2/5) Elias Performance (3/5) Finn Balor and Brawun Strowman vs. Kevin Owens and Constable Corbin (2.5/5) Rating: 2/5
bloc 06.20.18	Dude that Alexa Bliss celebration was awesome. Rhonda was soooo good in it.
calmrose 06.20.18	^[2], 2.5 for the Alexa Bliss/Rousey segment is wack, that just made Rhonda an even bigger star, she kicked it into a whole other gear and came out looking like a badass, about as great a well-executed segment you can ask for
bloc 06.20.18	Wasn't expecting it to get so physical either. Thought they'd just tease it as usual. Even better, she got physical with the men too. If only that segment took place in a hotter city lol. A super hot crowd would have immortalized it. And sweet Zigglypuff got the title. I am hoping this means they soon move Rollins up to the Universal title picture.
calmrose 06.20.18	Rollins better be in the Universal title picture now with the year he's having, dude's been the MVP all year
bloc 06.20.18	The funny thing is that the rumored match for Summerslam is Lesnar vs Reigns again lol
calmrose 06.20.18	I saw that lol, I hope it's not but if they go that route and have Reigns beat Lesnar, maybe they'll have Strowman cash in on Reigns, crowd's going to go insane if that happens
bloc 06.20.18	Whoa WWE released Big Cass??
calmrose 06.20.18	yep, apparently Vince called a meeting before Smackdown tonight and fired Cass honestly not a very big (hah) loss, dude's character was so bland and boring
bloc 06.20.18	Holy fuck, I wonder what the reason was. Can't just be the Montreal midget thing? Looking forward to more news on it.
calmrose 06.20.18	that's one of the things being speculated, I think he may have had other problems backstage, attitude issues, etc.
calmrose 06.20.18	https://www.si.com/wrestling/2018/06/19/big-cass-released-wwe-personal-conduct-issues
bloc 06.20.18	Well I'll be damned
DinosaurJones 06.20.18	And nothing of value was lost.
DropTune 06.20.18	My ratings: 0 = unwatchable 1 = atrocious 1.5 = awful 2 = mixed 2.5 = average 3 = above average 3.5 = good 4 = great 4.5 = excellent 5 = MOTY
DropTune 06.20.18	SMACKDOWN 6/19/18 Review: Carmella Segment (2.5/5) [Ellsworthy] Becky Lynch vs. Billie Kay (2/5) [Should've been longer] Usos vs. SAnitY (3/5) [Just what it needed to be] Bludgeon Brothers vs. Good Brothers (3/5) [hard-hitting well paced] Gauntlet Match (3.5/5) [Great showcase of top stars] Rating: 3/5 Full Review: TBA, but better than RAW.
DinosaurJones 06.20.18	I guess they're dropping Nak to the US title picture? I really have no problem with AJ remaining champ, at least.
DropTune 06.20.18	At this point the US belt is beneath Hardy. There's no point in either Hardy or Nakamura putting each other over. Shinsuke should have won the belt, but I feel he won't get it against AJ Styles. He'll have to pin Joe or Bryan to get the belt any time soon.
DinosaurJones 06.20.18	Rusev as the number one contender, what world do we live in? I mean, I give him pretty much a 0% chance of winning the title, but the fact that he's even in the match is pretty nutso buttso.
Realm 06.21.18	Every day is Rusev Day
DinosaurJones 06.21.18	RUSEV DAAYYYYYYYY~~~~♪♪♪
ExhaleTheLight 06.21.18	Yeah Styles ain't dropping the title at a ppv that's a b show at best
DropTune 06.21.18	Extreme Rules is an upper level B show. It's hard to argue 2012's Extreme Rules was one of WWE's best events of the modern era. We've gotten decent matches like John Cena vs. Brock Lesnar and Edge vs. Jeff Hardy. There's at least one or two takeaways from the event in general. I doubt we'll ever see anything to the likes of Ciampa v. Gargano II.
bloc 06.22.18	I'll be surprised if Styles drops the title any time soon. Dude's featured on the cover of the new 2k game with the title.
calmrose 06.22.18	apparently that's the reason he retained against Nak at MITB
DropTune 06.22.18	If he does drop the title, It'll be at Summerslam or Survivor Series. WWE has built SMACKDOWN around AJ Styles, so he'll figure into something at least.
bloc 06.22.18	Would be a pretty cool swerve if Braun cashed in on AJ
DropTune 06.22.18	I agree, but the aftermath would be awful. Reigns would be Universal Champ and Braun would be WWE Champ. At that point, RAW would be screwed and SMACKDOWN would have a tiering problem.
bloc 06.22.18	But then come Survivor Series we could get champ vs champ, and those 2 dudes have great chemistry in the ring
DropTune 06.22.18	Yeah, but that's one match against however long his reign is. We've seen Roman vs. Strowman countless times. It's redundant at this point. What does putting them over each other even mean at this point? Neither have anything to gain. I'd rather see Styles vs. Strowman than Reigns vs. Strowman. At least Styles can use that victory to boost his prestige than Reigns burying another helpless victim.
bloc 06.22.18	But you can see both if Strowman successfully cashes in on AJ! They'll obv feud for a while, while during the SS PPV there can be a one off match between Reigns and Strowman.
DropTune 06.23.18	Yeah, but you're ignoring the obvious problem. No one on SMACKDOWN has credibility aside from Styles. Shinsuke *just* got established as a prominent heel. Rusev is just now getting a push. No one in SD's landscape can afford Strowman wreaking havoc. Hell, Samoa Joe hasn't even found his place yet. Daniel Bryan is still getting his groove back. Strowman would skew the power tier away from anyone else. If SD's roster were as established as RAW's, he wouldn't be a problem. The only guy up to par with Strowman is Styles. Once that feud ends, who else? Bryan's Big Cass feud did him no favors. If Styles drops the title to Strowman, feuds for 3 months and loses, how would he boost Bryan's credibility? How would be boost Joe or Miz? Strowman is too far above SD at this point. He needs to stick with RAW.
bloc 06.23.18	Maybe by the time the AJ and Strowman clash is over, the guys you mentioned will be in a good place. Maybe....
DinosaurJones 06.23.18	Something else to consider though is that SD is moving to FOX next year. It's still a ways off, but they may actually consider having SD become the A show for real, since more eyes will have access to it.
DropTune 06.23.18	That won't be until October 2019. By that point, WWE will be building to Survivor Series and will have no choice but to amp their product. I see a huge roster shift for SD next year. RAW and SD will be more balanced, but I easily see SD moving into a more completed format. Hopefully it will be executed more like 2016's SD product where the ratings were beating RAW.
bloc 06.23.18	I don't think that Fox deal is 100% yet, is it? WWE has not officially announced it yet.
DropTune 06.23.18	The deal is in motion. ESPN acquired UFC and FOX has a deal in place for SMACKDOWN. It's happening, and it's going to get interesting. ROH vs. WWE vs. NJPW is going down for real.
DinosaurJones 06.24.18	IMPACT IS IN THERE SOMEWHERE, LOL
bloc 06.24.18	WWE will always be on top. The other ones have many strengths over WWE, don't get me wrong, but WWE will always be the big dawg brand in wrestling.
calmrose 06.24.18	I hate myself for reading big dawg in your sentence in Cole's obnoxious, exaggerated tone
bloc 06.24.18	Shit, instead of "the" I should have put "da" to make it vintage Cole
calmrose 06.24.18	haha yep
calmrose 06.24.18	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRtOX6RkAOs
DropTune 06.24.18	I think calmrose wants to get banned today.
bloc 06.24.18	lol get read for "monster in the bank"
DropTune 06.25.18	Braun Strowman needs a better gamer tag.
Valzentia 06.25.18	Braun and Seth are my favorites right now.
DropTune 06.25.18	My Top 10 (not in order): AJ Styles Shinsuke Nakamura Samoa Joe Buddy Murphy Johnny Gargano Tomasso Ciampa Aleister Black Elias Bobby Roode Rusev
bloc 06.25.18	It's all about the Velveteen Dream baby
Valzentia 06.25.18	I hate Elias with a burning passion
DropTune 06.25.18	The Dream is too good to be listed among those bottom feeders.
DropTune 06.26.18	WWE RAW Review (6/25/18): Opening Segment (2/5) Revival vs. Lashley and Regins (2/5) Deleter of Worlds vs. B-Team (1.7/5) Authors of Pain vs. Rex and Gibson (1.8/5) Alexa Bliss vs. Natalya (2/5) Riott Squad vs. Moon, Bayley, and Banks (2/5) Mojo Rawley Segment (2/5) Strowman and Owens vs. Corbin and Balor (2/5) Seth Rollins vs. Dolph Ziggler (2.5/5) Rating: (2/5) Full Review: TBW
bloc 06.27.18	Nigga that opening segment this week was flames. 2 weeks in a row we got an amazing opening segment on Raw. Bobby hella improved on the mic (thank fuckin god) and damn Roman is killin it on the mic these days.
ExhaleTheLight 06.27.18	TEAM HELL NO IS BACK F YEAH
DropTune 06.27.18	The opening segment was okay I guess. Improving doesn't mean good. I never had much of a problem with Lashley on the mic. He doesn't need mic skills to get over. Reigns does, which is the shaky part of his character. Regardless, the promo was standard for a RAW opening. Nothing exciting or monumental took place. I'm not going to upvote it just because Reigns or Lashley were better this time around. They should be giving us their best every night.
DropTune 06.27.18	WWE SMACKDOWN Review (6/26/18) Miz TV (2/5) Xavier Woods vs. Rusev (2.5/5) Jeff Hardy vs. Eric Young (2/5) Jeff Hardy and the Usos vs. SAnitY (2/5) Becky Lynch vs. Sonya Deville (2/5) James Ellsworth Segment (2/5) Daniel Bryan vs. Luke Harper (2.5/5) Rating (2.5/5)
bloc 06.28.18	Is it just me, or was this week's Raw the best Raw in forever? Amazing show God daaaaamn
DropTune 06.28.18	Eh... just you bro. Post-Mania onward has been awful. SMACKDOWN has gotten progressively better.
bloc 06.28.18	That Bailey heel turn though...damn...she even said YOU AIN'T SHIT SASHA at the end and that was the best thing she's ever said. Hope it ain't just a one time thing.
DropTune 06.29.18	I almost forgot my NXT ratings for the week: Aleister Black Segment (3/5) Kona Reeves vs. Max Humberto (1.5/5) Candice LeRae vs. Lacey Evans (2/5) Ricochet and Mustache Mountain vs. Undisputed Era (2.5/5) Rating (2.5/5)
DropTune 06.29.18	I still question as to whether or not Bayley is actually a heel. I thought Sasha was a heel the whole time. Bayley turning heel would be interesting nonetheless. Her botched roster run ruined any chance of her being the John Cena of the women's division. She should have Gargano level acclaim at this point. It's a shame how buried she's been over the past few years. Sasha works better as a heel than Bayley. Her character and moveset are better suited for it. Bayley works best as a babyface.
Storm In A Teacup 06.29.18	Maybe you overrated her.
bloc 06.30.18	You never know with Bailey, she might excel at being a heel. Look at Sami, who's basically always been a face. The guy is one of the best heels in the company and that mic work is unbeatable. I just hope they make her an "official" heel and that whatever therapy segments she does doesn't turn her back into a face or whatever. Huglife needs to become Thuglife.
DinosaurJones 06.30.18	That was supposed to be a heel turn, but Bayley was getting mad pops, haha.
bloc 06.30.18	They were in her hometown no? And shit, who doesn't like a good heel turn. That turn was nasty as fuck. YOU AIN'T SHIT SASHA. God that was good to hear.
DropTune 06.30.18	I'm getting a t-shirt of that made.
DinosaurJones 06.30.18	I didn't realize they were in her hometown, that makes a lot more sense. Even so, I feel like she's going to get pops from now on if they go through with this.
bloc 06.30.18	I fuckin hope so. The audience knows a good heel when they see one. Which explains why someone like KO always gets cheers even though he's a heel. I just hope the writers don't cancel Bailey's heel turn because she's not getting booed.
DinosaurJones 06.30.18	I went back and watched the clip, and it really was awesome. I hope they stick with it. I do find it interesting how Ember Moon just disappeared though.
JustJoe. 06.30.18	This list is the G.O.A.T. But I have no clue what any of this means, so carry on.
DinosaurJones 06.30.18	Oh, Hey Joe.
JustJoe. 06.30.18	Hola, Dino!
bloc 06.30.18	Joe you just made the biggest mistake of your life. This thread will forever haunt your discussions feed now that you've posted in it. And yeah lol, Ember just left. I didn't even think of her during the turn but afterwards it was like wait where did that ho go
DinosaurJones 06.30.18	Yeh, it makes sense that the Riott Squad left, but you can see them cheering when Bayley was beating the hell out of Sasha when they go up the ramp. Ember though... she just poofed outta there.
JustJoe. 06.30.18	I'm always down for a good haunting. Plus it only took me 7 whole minutes to scroll down in order to post this comment!
bloc 06.30.18	Lol you on a phone? Yeah that scrolling shit sucks. I am usually Sputnikking on my computer so Home and End keys are lifesavers lol
JustJoe. 06.30.18	I Sputnik exclusively from my phone. It'd be way too easy if I was on a computer & I'd never get anything else done.
DinosaurJones 06.30.18	Yeah, a 3000+ comment thread is probably rough on a phone.
Storm In A Teacup 06.30.18	Bayley!!!!! Yes! Yes! Yes!
DropTune 07.02.18	Bad Girl Bayley is on the move.
DropTune 07.03.18	WWE RAW Review (7/2/18) Roman Reigns Segment (2/5) Dr. Shelby Segment (2/5) Matt Hardy vs. Curtis Axel (2/5) Titus Worldwide vs. Authors of Pain (2/5) Dolph Ziggler and Drew McIntyre vs. Roman Reigns and Seth Rollins (2.5/5) Baron Corbin Segment (2/5) Ember Moon vs. Liv Morgan (1.5/5) Roman Reigns and Bobby Lashley vs. The Revival (2/5) Mojo Rawley vs. No Way Jose (1.5/5) Nia Jax vs. Mickie James (2/5) Braun Strowman vs. Kevin Owens (1.5/5) Rating (2/5)
Storm In A Teacup 07.03.18	Why waste your time if it sucks
DropTune 07.03.18	I never said RAW sucked. 2/5 is mixed to average. There weren't any 5 star matches taking place last night. It's just an average episode of RAW.
DinosaurJones 07.04.18	what the hell, why was Reigns in two matches?
DropTune 07.04.18	The storyline is that Roman Reigns was booked to fight The Revival, however, Seth Rollins needs Reigns to help him fend off Dolph and McIntyre. Angle let him help Rollins under the condition he and Lashley get their rematch against The Revival later on. The segment was played to inspire the "ego" feud between Lashley and Reigns since Roman says Bobby is egotistical yet Reigns is booked in two tag matches.
calmrose 07.04.18	that Ali and Murphy no DQ match on 205 Live last night was dope
DropTune 07.04.18	SMACKDOWN Live Review (7/3/18) Team Hell No Segment (2.5/5) Jeff Hardy vs. The Miz (2.7/5) 3rd of July Pancake Eating Competition (2.3/5) Asuka vs. James Ellsworth (1/5) AJ Styles vs. Aiden English (2.1/5) Becky Lynch vs. Peyton Royce (1.5/5) Team Hell No vs. The Usos (2.5/5) Rating (2.5/5)
bloc 07.04.18	Roman Reigns is becoming a mic god
DropTune 07.05.18	NXT Review (7/4/18) Dakota Kai vs. Santana Garrett (2.5/5) Shayna Baszler Promo (2.5/5) The Mighty vs. Dozovic (2.5/5) Chris Dijak vs. The Velveteen Dream (3/5) Johnny Gargano vs. EC3 (3/5) Rating (2.8/5)
bloc 07.05.18	That Bayley segment was very disappointing.
DropTune 07.05.18	At least NXT was good.
DropTune 07.10.18	RAW Review (7/9/18) Roman Reigns and Bobby Lashley Brawl (2/5) Alexa Bliss and Mickie James vs. Nia Jax and Natalya (1.7/5) Mojo Rawley vs. No Way Jose (1.8/5) Seth Rollins Segment (2/5) Bo Dallas vs. Matt Hardy (2/5) Ember Moon vs. Liv Morgan (1.5/5) Finn Balor and Bobby Roode vs. Elias and Constable Corbin (2/5) Seth Rollins vs. Drew McIntyre (2.7/5) Rating (2.3/5)
Storm In A Teacup 07.22.18	Just saw Joey Ryan wrestle a show in my town that had 6 matches that was an awesome show all around. He was the third match of the night and won a triple threat with old Big Poppa Pump lookalike and a guy wrapped in bondage tabboo stuff in probably 6 or 7 minutes
ExhaleTheLight 07.26.18	#LetsGoCiampa
bloc 07.27.18	That new Elias EP needs a review!
ExhaleTheLight 07.28.18	Any good ?
BlackMalachite 07.28.18	Over 3000 comments, holy shit.
Deez 07.28.18	Ciampa is the best heel in the game
bloc 07.28.18	I'm glad he won the title. I like Black (best theme song ever) but damn his run with the title was kinda bland. Looks like the future matches might be a 3 way with Gargano. Anyone watching Impact these days? It's literally one of my favourite promotions right now. Slammiversary last week was one of the best PPVs of the year.
Realm 07.29.18	Went to nxt live tonight. It was the bomb! New Elias ep is 5/5
swipenet 07.29.18	Holy shit dis a long ass thread
Realm 07.29.18	Less than three Kairi
swipenet 07.29.18	One more to hop on then I guess
DominionMM1 07.29.18	RIP nikolai volkoff
Storm In A Teacup 07.29.18	RIP Grandmasta Sexay
Storm In A Teacup 07.29.18	RIP Brickhouse Brown
DominionMM1 07.29.18	just finished reading about brian christopher damn that’s some sad shit
swipenet 08.02.18	Still in awe at the size of this thread
swipenet 08.02.18	Absolute unit
bloc 08.02.18	Haha well it's been going on for over 2 years now. Cool how it's just been the same users over and over too. That's some dedication. Brock was amazing on Raw this week. Crazy how much heat he was able to bring in on himself. He even managed to get the crowd to chant We want Roman at the end lmao. Hopefully that translates well into SS.
ExhaleTheLight 08.03.18	Well Roman is gonna get some pops again, just like when he almost killed Trips, then it’ll get back to boos again. I honestly want Heyman to turn on Brock and join with Roman.
ExhaleTheLight 08.03.18	...And Aleister sustained an injury at a live event that required surgery, that’s disappointing..
bloc 08.03.18	That would be fuckin sweet. And then have Authors of Pain as his two henchmen. And daaaaamn about Aleister. The timing on that injury is just the worst, given that the next title match is chalking up to be a triple threat. Seems like he was on his way up to the main roster very soon.
ExhaleTheLight 08.04.18	Don’t know if it’s for sure, Aleister is still scheduled for takeover. Can’t wait for that triple threat
ExhaleTheLight 08.14.18	AMBROSE IS BACK
Storm In A Teacup 08.14.18	Equally exciting is the mic time drew and dolph get
ExhaleTheLight 08.14.18	I liked Dolphs promo but I felt like I heard the same promo before
Minushuman24 08.14.18	God I got do damn pumped when Dean came back.
DominionMM1 08.14.18	rip jim the anvil neidhart godfuckingdamnit
DinosaurJones 08.15.18	Ambrose bulked up a bit while he was gone.
bloc 08.15.18	Yeah he looks so much better. Dude was not looking like a threat at all before the injury. He looks like he just came out of a prison stint now haha
Storm In A Teacup 08.15.18	So much is going right in the build to summerslam it's genius. Could be a top 5 all time summerslam in the end. I really hope Randy Orton decides to RKO every winner of each match that would be the icing on the cake.
ExhaleTheLight 08.15.18	Those new allegations of Randy exposing himself to new writers is hilarious
Minushuman24 08.15.18	It's the most Randy Orton thing ever.
Minushuman24 08.15.18	So, I keep playing 2k18 even though it's pretty ass, do you guys think that 2k19 will be good?
bloc 08.15.18	Yeah this week's raw was solid. The Reigns, Rollins, and Rousey stuff was all high quality and really made you excited to see the matches for SS. As for the RKO allegations, I actually believe it lol.
ExhaleTheLight 08.15.18	The 2K games have been ass since 2K15
ExhaleTheLight 08.15.18	Apparently in the dark match on Smackdown, Randy went ringside to shake hands with a crew member and they both laughed lmao
DinosaurJones 08.15.18	How long before the inevitable Ambrose heel turn?
bloc 08.15.18	Firstly, that turn NEEDS to happen. Hopefully at SS or the Raw after.
Storm In A Teacup 08.16.18	Tbh i was hoping that Dolph and Drew would beat Rollins and Ambrose and then they would help Roman win later that night and then that would start the story about how it took the shield for Roman to finally take the title from Brock which would lead to Ambrose heel turn and a triple threat eventually at Wrestlemania.
Storm In A Teacup 08.16.18	Or the same things except seth does win. Really doesnt matter but can be extra fruit to throw in Deans face to get a heel turn
bloc 08.16.18	The heel turn is an easy story. Dean was tagging with Seth and when they got attacked together outside the ring Dean got legit injured and he can spin the story to put the blame on Seth. Then while Dean was out rehabbing, Seth was busy "burning it down." A bit simple, but it takes from real life quite well. In terms of Roman vs Brock, I think Roman deserves to finally win this one on his own. The man works hard and has gotten amazing on the mic. I am becoming quite a fan as of late.
ExhaleTheLight 08.16.18	Well the story can also go as far as Ambrose not truly forgiving Rollins about the Shield breakup, he gets heat by mocking the fans accepting him back, and then forming a tag team was all a part of getting his revenge (since he lost almost every match in their original feud)
Storm In A Teacup 08.16.18	Bloc ive seen it too many times i dont wamt that lame angle to be associated with the Shield. At worst they are the best stable wwe has had since Evolution.
bloc 08.16.18	Haha yeah, my idea is pretty generic. It might be too soon for anything to happen at SS. Basically the two things I am looking forward to is who wins the MIAB briefcase and then how that plays into the main event.
ExhaleTheLight 08.16.18	My money is on Owens winning and cashing it in after Reigns wins and he aligns with Heyman
Storm In A Teacup 08.16.18	my phone can no longer load this thread. it's a sad day, yes it is
ExhaleTheLight 08.16.18	It’s amazing isn’t it
DropTune 08.16.18	Hey guys! Man, I've been gone for a while. How's everything been?
bloc 08.16.18	I kinda don't want Owens to align with Heyman. They're both so damn good on the mic they could survive apart.
ExhaleTheLight 08.17.18	Yeah I believe it, Heyman was just CM Punk’s title holder when he managed him.
DropTune 08.17.18	Takeover Predictions: Velveteen Dream (He won't win but he should) Ricochet Kairi Sane Undisputed Era Johnny Gargano SummerSlam Predictions: Andrade "Cien" Almas & Zelina Vega The Revival Cedric Alexander Jeff Hardy Becky Lynch Daniel Bryan Seth Rollins Braun Strowman New Day Baron Corbin Ronda Rousey AJ Styles Roman Reigns (Braun Strowman cashes in)
bloc 08.17.18	Man SS has a lot of matches. Sucks I gotta wait until the end to see the (hopefully) best part
Storm In A Teacup 08.17.18	Oh my gosh so much going on that i didnt even consider someone could cash in!!!
DropTune 08.18.18	WWE needs to dial back at some point. Having 13 matches (including pre-show) isn't doing anyone favors.
bloc 08.19.18	Damn NXT last night was amazing yet again. I think the opening tag match was my fav although everything was pretty fantastic. I would say the EC3/VD match was the weakest though. Strange how even the audience wasn't super into it.
ExhaleTheLight 08.19.18	The main event was awesome but it pained me to think there could’ve been a better match that included Aleister. Dream will probably be called up soon, for now I just see him as Midcard talent which is a shame.
calmrose 08.19.18	Adam Cole/Ricochet was MOTN for me that hurricanrana from Ricochet to Cole was bonkers and also Cole's superkick while Ricochet tried a moonsault m/
bloc 08.19.18	I think it's genius that they're making the Black injury into a storyline. Yeah the Cole/Ricky match was insane too. Def a near second for me. Those two matches are some of the best of the year. I wish everyone could just stay on NXT lol. They're never gonna make it on the main roster. Even Dream tbh.
ExhaleTheLight 08.20.18	Holy shit that Braun and Kevin match was a squash match, poor Kevin.
bloc 08.20.18	I know, wtf was that. I have this feeling KO got a concussion or something and they had to end it quick. And wow the crowd loves Becky lol
ExhaleTheLight 08.20.18	But if he didn’t get a concussion then that was a waste of storytelling.
bloc 08.20.18	Oh yeah, I am just guessing. If the match was booked to be that short then holy fuck it's one of the biggest letdowns for sure.
ExhaleTheLight 08.20.18	Becky was suppose to turn heel lmao but she got probably the largest pop of the night
bloc 08.20.18	It was a nice change of pace, but she is literally one of the few genuinely beloved babyfaces in the company. Should have kept her face and turned Charlotte heel since Charlotte is such a good heel.
ExhaleTheLight 08.20.18	And Charlotte winning the women’s title for the 7th time? Jeez
Deez 08.20.18	Rouseys been involved in good matches so far then just to have a mismatch like that is a waste. She looked like a dick head shouting to the crowd too. Everythings too forced when the world has seen your head punch/kicked off in real life. Theyll turn eventually. I reget everytime i watch these main roster cards NXT owned it again.
ExhaleTheLight 08.20.18	So with Roman winning the title I think the camera only lasted a minute in a half focusing on him And then the show ends before Braun can cash in. Vince is so damn desperate to have him be the champ.
Minushuman24 08.20.18	what a shit end to a long term feud and a flat ending to a good ppv
DropTune 08.20.18	Summerslam was okay. It matched quantity and quality, but still managed to drag on. The main event, albeit awkward, wasn't enough to change my initial review. It's still a 7/10 to me. NXT was still better, yet SummerSlam at least tried for once. Arguably the best main roster event of 2018.
ExhaleTheLight 08.20.18	Man that reverse superplex and falcon arrow that Rollins did was the moment of the night. I noticed in some of the matches they did spots that you’d normally see in NXT
DropTune 08.20.18	That was an effort to boost the quality of SummerSlam. Every match had at least one major spot. It was a nice touch and made the event more memorable. The problem with SummerSlam is that, regardless of match quality, the event was overstuffed. For what SummerSlam was, I'd still say it was a good event. It's just hard to see it overshadowing All In.
bloc 08.21.18	The Braun cash-in "tease" was stupid and I bet it was only done to make sure the crowd stayed until the end instead of leaving early. Still glad Roman won.
bloc 08.21.18	Also my fav part of Suummer slam was joe's daddy line lol, man what a great heel
ExhaleTheLight 08.21.18	Wtf was that ending to Raw? The shield reuniting to save reigns, ruins the momentum Rollins has had and ruins the return run of Ambrose
Storm In A Teacup 08.21.18	that main event couldn't have gone better if the only option was for Reigns to win the title except for one other option, that being Dean and Seth coming out and jumping Lesnar from behind during his entrance and then Brock trying to wrestle anyway.
Storm In A Teacup 08.21.18	damn spoilers lol, haven't watched raw yet but now i know what happens! damn! I WISH THEY HAD DONE WHAT I WANTED AT SUMMERSLAM NOT RAW!!!
Storm In A Teacup 08.21.18	trying to navigate the wwe network is harder than i thought. how the heck do i find tonights episode of raw
Storm In A Teacup 08.21.18	please don't tell me im supposed to watch it live still and fucked if i don't do that. i thought every episode was on the network. how do i navigate this damn thing!
kintups55 08.21.18	Raw shows on the Network get added like a month after they air if memory serves me right.
Storm In A Teacup 08.21.18	lol then im cancelling my subscription before i pay ten bucks for only half of a product
DropTune 08.21.18	WWE RAW Grades (8/20/18) Roman Reigns Promo (5.5/10) Constable Corbin vs. Bobby Lashley (5/10) Sasha Banks, Bayley, & Ember Moon vs. Riott Squad (5/10) Triple H Promo (5.5/10) Dolph Ziggler vs. Dean Ambrose (5.5/10) Elias vs. Curt Hawkins (5/10) Authors of Pain vs. Titus Worldwide (4.5/10) Ronda Rousey Segment (4.5/10) Bo Dallas vs. Scott Dawson (4/10) Curtis Axel vs. Dash Wilder (4/10) Roman Reigns vs. Finn Balor (6.5/10) Overall: 5/10
bloc 08.22.18	"Wtf was that ending to Raw? The shield reuniting to save reigns, ruins the momentum Rollins has had and ruins the return run of Ambrose" Duuuuude, I LOVED the ending. Bringing Rollins and Ambrose out in their Shield gear was an excellent touch too.
ExhaleTheLight 08.22.18	Honestly I’m tired of seeing them reunite for the 5th or 6th time, they should be rare occasions.
bloc 08.22.18	They seemed heel as fuck though, like it was 2013 all over again. From the clothes to the mannerisms to the powerbomb. Dunno what the hell it was supposed to mean because 3 guys vs. 1 giant still makes the 1 giant a babyface (in principle)
Storm In A Teacup 08.23.18	this isn't a reunion and if it were it would be the second reunion because Dean has been injured and they were together when he was injured. it would NOT make sense for the shield to NOT be together.
DropTune 08.23.18	I'd like to see SHIELD as a heel stable. Turning Strowman heel literally contradicts the past year of TV. Strowman vs. Reigns at Wrestlemania would be the best route to go in this situation. I'd like to see Strowman win the belt sometime before January at least. Finn Balor also needs a run with the belt. Now isn't a good time for him to go over anyways. Having him beat Reigns would bury the entire Reigns/Lesnar feud and completely waste Balor in the process. Even if he was the Demon, what would be the point? Balor has no reason to go over Reigns or Strowman.
Storm In A Teacup 08.23.18	They should have pulled the trigger on Braun a long time ago. It's a shame.
ExhaleTheLight 08.24.18	I feel like they’re gonna make Braun fail at his cash in, making him the 4th man to do so.
bloc 08.25.18	I kinda have that feeling too. But it seems so weird that they'd go that route. If the Shield becomes a long term thing, he's either gonna have a failed cash in or he's gonna be holding the briefcase for a long time because I find it hard to believe they already have plans to take the title off Roman already. Also, I hope they keep Shield as tweeners because that's key to their success.
Storm In A Teacup 08.25.18	it also feels like they are bordering on making Braun come off as stupid
DropTune 08.25.18	So, the thing with Strowman is pretty complicated. Roman Reigns, after a million years, paid off in the long term. Because Strowman unexpectedly rose to the top, WWE's plan B (Strowman) is caught between a rock and hard place. Reigns is at the top statistically and Strowman is at the top creatively. The problem is Reigns dropping to Strowman would make the past 3 years redundant. WWE *should* have given Strowman the belt earlier and dropped it to Reigns either at WM or Summerslam. At that point, Reigns was at the back of the line and didn't need to face Lesnar. Narratively, giving Strowman the briefcase is a shifty spot. The case is more designed for a heel than a face. Strowman will screw himself over by being a babyface and cashing in EXPECTEDLY and lose to Reigns who is now a tweener. WWE's "swerves" are putting things into a bind rather than being something fun and unexpected.
DropTune 08.28.18	WWE RAW Grades (8/27/18) Roman Reigns Promo (5/10) Finn Balor vs. Baron Corbin (4.5/10) Sasha Banks vs. Dana Brooke (4/10) Seth Rollins vs. Kevin Owens (6.8/10) The Revival vs. B-Team (3.8/10) Elias Performance (3.8/10) Natalya vs. Alicia Fox (4/10) Bobby Lashley vs. The Ascension (3/10) Dean Ambrose vs. Jinder Mahal (4/10) Strowman and Reigns vs. Ziggler and McIntyre (5/10) Overall: 5/10
bloc 08.29.18	Bruh Roman's a boss on the mic
DropTune 08.29.18	WWE SMACKDOWN Grades (8/28/18) New Day Promo (5.5/10) Good Brothers vs. The Colon's vs. The Bar (5/10) Jeff Hardy Promo (5/10) Billie Kay vs. Naomi (3/10) Daniel Bryan vs. Andrade "Cien" Almas (6/10) Samoa Joe Promo (5.5/10) Charlotte vs. Carmella (5.5/10) Overall: 5/10
bloc 08.29.18	Summerslam 2019 is coming to Toronto and I am hyped because that means Takeover is tagging along
ExhaleTheLight 08.30.18	By that time I’m sure Adam Cole or Richocet will be nxt champion
Storm In A Teacup 08.30.18	unless they have John Cena go to nxt to teach the rookies: i.e. cuts burial promos and main events their ppvs for half a year
bloc 08.30.18	Hell, they might all be failing on the main roster by summer 2019 who knows lol
Storm In A Teacup 08.31.18	bloc and I are obviously optimistic about the future...i can see it now ya'll...it's so golden...
bloc 08.31.18	Haha, that last thing you wrote is a topic all on its own
bloc 09.01.18	Anyone watching All In this weekend?
ExhaleTheLight 09.01.18	Don’t know if it’s worth all the hype. It’s a good card, but I think it’s more trying to make a statement if anything
Storm In A Teacup 09.01.18	hmm i would say that is not accurate. in codys words the statement was already made. now they are trying to make the show the best it can be, every minute. it will be fantastic. most looking forward to SCU vs Arrow, Joey Ryan appearing to beat the shit out of Hangman Page, and much more!
Storm In A Teacup 09.01.18	oh and it's pretty much a guarantee that Neville will be at All In
bloc 09.01.18	That would be dope and a nice fuck you to WWE if he did show up. I still wonder if CM Punk is gonna show up too. Drop another pipebomb or some shit lol. I love the WWE but I really want this All In show to succeed. WWE needs a kick in the ass and realize there's other USA promotions that are on the rise.
Storm In A Teacup 09.01.18	10,000 this year, 30,000 the next
bloc 09.09.18	https://youtu.be/CSQdnl4n6CY Being The Elite behind the scenes video at All In. Really cool.
Storm In A Teacup 10.16.18	would really like to know what amazing writer they hired for raw and smackdown a couple months ago cuz it feels like the whole culture has changed for the better
bloc 10.16.18	What makes you say that? I haven't watched this week yet (but am looking forward to it because last week's Raw was surprisingly good), but the past several Raws (before last week) have been very uneventful.
Storm In A Teacup 10.16.18	the story telling and format has completely changed imo for both shows Last weeks Raw was the best in a while I would say but I had already been enjoying previous weeks. Yesterdays Raw was not bad either. The worst thing going on right now is not knowing what will happen because of Becky's broken jaw.
bloc 10.16.18	Oh shiiiiit, I didn't know she got injured. The timing for that couldn't be worse, given that's like the hottest person on the roster right now. I'm very curious to see what WWE does about Crown Jewel given that incident with the missing reporter. That could be the new hot topic for the next few weeks.
Storm In A Teacup 10.16.18	yeah the only good thing is that she broke it three weeks ago and has still wrestled and continued the story, but I'm worried she will lose the belt and go away for a bit after their next title match. also Raw last night mentioned Crown Jewel only one hundred times, so i think they really want to do the show still
bloc 10.16.18	Haha well I guess that's settled. Watched Bound For Glory this past weekend and thought it was really strong. Weird because the build on the Mexican tapings has been crap but once that worked shoot went down at the HoF ceremony on Sat the shit was on fire.
Storm In A Teacup 10.16.18	don't know anything about BFG or TNA. Was so high on them years ago. who does the hof ceremony thing involve?
ExhaleTheLight 10.16.18	I missed this thread.
bloc 10.16.18	Lmao same. Got excited to see it get bumped again.
ExhaleTheLight 10.16.18	WWE's PPV format has been terrible as of late. Too much cluttering into one show and then another show is two weeks away. All these special shows kill it for me.
bloc 10.16.18	"who does the hof ceremony thing involve?" It's a super small ceremony (took place at a bar lol). But all the execs and on screen people were there plus some wrestlers. This year's induction was Abyss. There is a match for the world title between Johnny Impact and Aries so Aries crashed the ceremony near the end and talked a bunch of shit. Looked pretty real. Really good stuff.
Storm In A Teacup 10.16.18	ooh i gotta look that up i haven't seen Aries since that disaster promo he ran after his run with WWE ended
Storm In A Teacup 10.16.18	also, it really looks like BTE is going to WWE. would love to see Cody be the leader and return to main event
Minushuman24 10.16.18	I have not been feeling WWE recently. Yesterday was the first Raw I have watched in well over a month, and I still barely paid attention. Going to Smackdown in November when it hits Minnesota though, so that's exciting.
bloc 10.16.18	Storm, if you like that, at least check the ending of that match at the actual BFG show the night after. It's so puzzling what Austin did. I literally have no idea if it was a work or shoot at this point. Same Minus, I am basically skimming through the shows now. NXT still slaps though. Looking forward to seeing what NXT UK is like.
DinosaurJones 10.16.18	I am so behind.
bloc 10.17.18	If all it took to bring you back was comment on this thread DJ, why didn't we do it earlier
ExhaleTheLight 10.17.18	That BFG ending was definitely a shoot
bloc 10.17.18	Yeah that's what I'm hearing too, crazy ass shit
ExhaleTheLight 10.17.18	Welp SD1000 was very underwhelming. Not as memorable as Raw 1000
DinosaurJones 10.17.18	I honestly wonder if anyone has turned face/heel more than Big Show.
ExhaleTheLight 10.17.18	At this point I think it’s a running joke.
Minushuman24 10.17.18	SD1000 kind of makes me remember why I don't watch the show as much. There was some great stuff in there. Big Dick Dave was fantastic, and Becky roasting Edge was amazing. Becky has got to be one of the best characters they have. Kind of sad to see Shinsuke lose, but at least it was to the returning Rey? And the ending with the Undertaker was dumb, he came out to say the same exact thing he said on Raw.
bloc 10.17.18	Didn't watch SD1000 yet, but Raw this week had some great stuff. The Dean Ambrose stuff is solid but that Rhonda/Bella promo was def the highlight lol
ExhaleTheLight 10.17.18	Dean is definitely making Raw more interesting ever since he came back.
Storm In A Teacup 10.21.18	they fucked up SD1000 and cut undertakers entire promo and half of Mysterio/Shinsuke... really bad planning or something...
bloc 10.21.18	Should have been a 3 hour show for sure. Undertaker's walk to the ring was longer than his promo lol
ExhaleTheLight 10.23.18	So Roman had to give up the title because he has been living with Leukemia that has came back. That sucks and I feel very sorry for him. Who knew Dean would’ve turned heel in one of the most sick heel turns I’ve ever seen
Storm In A Teacup 10.23.18	....wow to everything that i just saw.....
joshieboy 10.23.18	Not watched wrestling in about 10 years but still occasionally read reviews of the shows. Awful that Reigns has leukaemia, lost my Grandma to it, horrible.
ExhaleTheLight 10.23.18	I hope he gets better. This Raw was very very heavy.
Minushuman24 10.23.18	I haven't seen the new episode, but I read what happened. God damn. I really hate the Roman character, but I hope that Joe gets better and can come back and preform. His character might be terribly written, but he's extremely talented and seems like a decent guy.
bloc 10.23.18	Man, yesterday's Raw was pretty heavy. Hope RR gets better soon, I've always been a fan of his. Looks like they're moving Braun up to top babyface again, seeing as Drew turned on him again this week. Makes sense to me. I knew Seth and Dean were gonna win the titles, but Dean turning really shocked me. Add RR's case to the brutality of the turn and it was great shit. I wonder what his reasoning is gonna be. Hopefully he becomes a top heel.
Storm In A Teacup 10.23.18	Ambrose canonwise was always friends with Reigns whether Shield was together or not. No RR, just him and a friend who keeps saying Ambrose time. I love how Ambrose hated what was happening after the initial attack and then turned it into hate towards Seth.
ExhaleTheLight 10.23.18	Ambrose v. Rollins part 2 is going to be an epic feud. They bring the best out of each other and from a story point, this can be one of the greatest rivalries of all time given the shared history between the two. The Shield boys have always been part of the main event scene, so I don't see any reason why Dean and Seth are not part of it.
bloc 10.23.18	Biggest loser methinks is Dolph. You now have Seth and Dean feuding most likely. Then it seems like Braun and Drew are going to be feuding. Dolph is clearly the odd man out and he's definitely outgunned.
Storm In A Teacup 10.25.18	this Saudi Arabia story is about to hit its climax soon it looks like. Multiple things happening and everyone reporting it. 1. WWE said today Crown Jewel is in Saudi Arabia 100% because it would affect their $ in both the present and the future 2. John Cena has now privately refused to go to Saudi Arabia 3. Daniel Bryan has now privately and publicly refused to go to Saudi Arabia
bloc 10.26.18	Oh shiiiit those are confirmed?? That's pretty damn big. Tickets ain't even on sale yet lol
Storm In A Teacup 10.26.18	yet it takes place in 9 days. idk
ExhaleTheLight 10.26.18	I know it’s money motivated but I don’t know hey wwe opted into this 10 year deal with a country that’s historically backwards. Wwe has been notorious for their PR, but in this day in age where everything is demonized in the media, Wwe can plunge
bloc 10.26.18	I would be shocked if the deal lasts for even 5 years tbh. This is a tricky situation because it's the purest form of money vs. public image and that is always a tough call for a business.
ExhaleTheLight 10.27.18	Wrestlemania 35 Main event should be Ambrose vs Rollins for the Universal championship
Storm In A Teacup 10.27.18	Back to Raw @ bloc I think Dolph can be saved if they find an east way to put the Intercontinental Championship back on him
bloc 10.27.18	Agreed Exhale, probably add a last man standing stip or something. Yeah Storm they could do that to keep him afloat. I wonder what they'll do with the tag titles now though. Hopefully they don't downgrade them to B Team or some crap.
ExhaleTheLight 10.27.18	Ziggler v Balor for the IC title, I can get behind that. Drew and Braun should just have a blood feud
bloc 10.27.18	Def would be nice to have Balor up higher. Looks like they got plans for Elias as well, maybe he'll be the one.
ExhaleTheLight 10.27.18	Turning Elias face was the smart move. He gets cheered every anyways. He’ll only be a heel in Seattle
bloc 10.28.18	Lol oh yeah they'll never forgive him
ExhaleTheLight 10.28.18	Still probably my favorite moment of 2018 so far
Storm In A Teacup 10.28.18	Elias went face? shit. i think i skipped an hour of Raw at least
bloc 10.29.18	Damn Evolution is killin it so far. One of the best PPVs of the year imo
Storm In A Teacup 10.29.18	oh shit i am gonna be up all night between Evolution and the Thunder vs Suns replay. That's what happens when you wake up at 10:30 PM lol
ExhaleTheLight 10.29.18	Becky v Charlotte was FANTASTIC. MOTY candidate
bloc 10.29.18	Excellent PPV overall. Even the Rhonda vs. Nikki match was very good. It seemed like it was a feelgood PPV so all the faces were gonna win so I was actually kinda surprised that Becky retained "cleanly". Crowd was def behind her without a doubt though, so it was the right move. Glad they made Charlotte look strong in defeat.
Storm In A Teacup 10.30.18	Becky Lynch is now my favorite wrestler of all time.
bloc 10.30.18	I bet her match with Rousey will end in a DQ
Storm In A Teacup 10.30.18	Hopefully that and Becky beats her ass all over the arena.
ExhaleTheLight 10.30.18	I sense Ronda will get the Brock push, except as a full time wrestler
bloc 11.01.18	I kinda dig how they made up mini storylines on Raw and SD this week to write Cena and Bryan off Crown Jewel lol
Storm In A Teacup 11.01.18	well im sure they would prefer people talking about that as opposed to reality
bloc 11.01.18	Mhmm, but everyone knows the reality haha. Crazy how every time they even say the words "crown jewel" the crowd boos.
Storm In A Teacup 11.02.18	I can't believe Dolph Ziggler would get screwed this bad. Makes it to the finals and wins only for Shane McMahon to include himself in finale to the final and Shane "SUPPOSEDLY" fucking wins the whole thing. This is fucked. Crown Jewel can go fuck itself.
ExhaleTheLight 11.03.18	Crown Jewel was worse than Backlash
Storm In A Teacup 11.03.18	it could have been Mysterio vs Angle for the final. what the hell is wrong with these people
bloc 11.03.18	Crown Jewel was so bad it was good lol. The wrestling wasn't bad for the most part, but jeez everything else was so bad, from the announce team to the book decisions. At least the crowd seemed to have a good time. But def the worst PPV in a long while. The final (g)old cup round was easily the worst thing I've seen all year.
ExhaleTheLight 11.04.18	Poor Ziggler
bloc 11.04.18	His story was weird because he went over Angle in his first singles match in years (who they have been building up for a few weeks), but then he loses to Shane in 3 min lol. I read that the storyline from the beginning was to have Shane win, and it's supposed to lead him into a heel turn. I'm all for him turning heel, but the way they are doing is dumb as fuck nonetheless
Storm In A Teacup 11.11.18	we really need a distraction from their dumb ass booking and here's an attempt. http://www.ringsidenews.com/2018/11/10/big-cass-packed-pounds-since-wwe-release/
bloc 11.11.18	Lol damn this nigga is starting to look like a tall sumo
Storm In A Teacup 11.13.18	BTE is brilliant. Storyline-wise HHH offering a contract to be Stardust again has broken Cody into being possessed and now he can only seize out and mention facts about WWE.
bloc 11.13.18	Raw was solid yesterday. Did not expect the women's segment at the end; that shit was amazing and took Raw to the next level. I swear Becky's nose broke lol.
calmrose 11.13.18	BECKY "THE MAN" LYNCH she's the fucking best
bloc 11.13.18	Yeah she upped her game in that 7 min segment better than 90% of the roster have done all year. Rhonda could fuckin sell too, she did great. Her promos during the show were fantastic too.
ExhaleTheLight 11.13.18	Becky is the new stone cold and that’s awesome
Storm In A Teacup 11.14.18	yeah she is and Nia Jax is an aboslute fat fuck worthless wrestler who deserves to be told to her face that she sucks when she is fired. fucking cunt.
Storm In A Teacup 11.14.18	Becky has a broken face, concussion from Nia intentionally!!!! knocking her face in with a closed fist! Nia deserves to be sued and fired!
Storm In A Teacup 11.14.18	This human deserves to be arrested and go to jail. Fucking fat piece of shit.
bloc 11.15.18	Is it weird if I thought the go home Smackdown was amazing? Becky being out of match just fuels the fire even more. Hopefully they wait until Wrestlemania to have the match now. Although I do think Charlotte vs Rhonda is fuckin huge too. That should be saved for a longer build as well, but whatever. Also dug the DB heel turn. He was getting a bit stale and AJ was starting to run out of opponents so it's gonna be good to see that change.
ExhaleTheLight 11.15.18	Heel DB is the best DB. Funny how probably two of the top WWE faces are heels now (Ambrose).
Minushuman24 11.15.18	Ooof, that's more than a bit harsh Storm. Bright side of the injured becky thing is that they are now considering Becky/Rhonda as the main event. I wasn't even really interested in Wrestlemania this year cause I haven't felt very engaged with the product. But Becky is amazing and I WANT to see that match very badly.
ExhaleTheLight 11.15.18	Honestly WM35 could actually be good. Ambrose v Rollins and Lynch v Rousey would already have me sold.
Minushuman24 11.15.18	I will take those two for sure Shawn/AJ would be spectacular. Dbry and Miz for the Championship champion Drew as Universal No Undertake This is what I want to see at Wrestlemania.
bloc 11.15.18	They're fuckin up the Ambrose/Rollins feud already I think. I just think the reason he gave for stabbing Rollins in the back made no fuckin sense. Like, "oh, you held me down". Nigga, you just won the tag titles seconds before turning. I would get it if they lost the titles that night or something. I feel like they could have brought some real life stuff into the storyline to really make it intense, whether it's about Roman or Ambrose's tricep injury.
Minushuman24 11.15.18	I mean, I think it makes sense to a point. He was the most overlooked person in that group. While they went on to win world championships and be huge deals generally, Dean was in midcard feuds all the time. But yeah no, they'll fuck it up, they always do.
DinosaurJones 11.16.18	How many times has AJ been hit in the balls this year?
BallsToTheWall 11.16.18	Becky is the man, the myth and the legend.
DinosaurJones 11.16.18	She owned the fuuuuuck out that segment, the blood made her more badass, but damn, it sucks so hard that she's taken out of the match... doesn't seem like it's going to kill her momentum though.
Minushuman24 11.16.18	If anything, it will keep here momentum going man. This is it, this is going to be Becky's fucking apex run. That Stone Cold segment with the blood gushing down her face, these promos, her matches, her presence on twitter even. I think the company knows they have something special on their hands, I think they know that they can make Rhonda/Becky to be one of the best rivalries in woman's wrestling.
ExhaleTheLight 11.16.18	I hope Ronda doesn’t get the Lesnar treatment
bloc 11.16.18	They should have used random chick to get killed by Rhonda at SS, even if it's at the expense of that wrestler or the "prestige" of Smackdown. Charlotte vs. Rhonda is a moneyyyyyy match that should not be wasted on a 4 day build....People would be like WTF WHY IS RHONDA FACING NAOMI AT SS but if it's to save Charlotte for later then it's all worth it
ExhaleTheLight 11.16.18	I think it’s just the company making the best out of an unlucky situation
Storm In A Teacup 11.16.18	yeah and charlotte is only second best at best. everyone talks a big game until the Man comes around Stone Cold Becky Lynch
bloc 11.18.18	2 matches into Takeover and my god this show is amazing
Minushuman24 11.18.18	Can't pay for the WWE Network cause of money troubles atm.... Hopefully I can find a stream somewhere...
BallsToTheWall 11.18.18	Aleister Black is the guy.
bloc 11.18.18	Minus my man, check this http://watchwrestling.cz/watch-wwe-nxt-takeover-2018-wargames-2018-11-17-18/
ExhaleTheLight 11.18.18	Takeover was bonkers and the Dean Ambrose chronicle was awesome.
bloc 11.18.18	Def one of my favourite PPVs of the year
Minushuman24 11.19.18	Got home from a show and watched Takeover. It was a decently good Takeover, but god damn Aleister Black and Gargano was awesome Also, why do they hate Asuka. Why.
bloc 11.19.18	Lmao Enzo Amore was at SS and got bounced https://youtu.be/YCR97_HtYcI
Minushuman24 11.19.18	Fucking enzo lol Also fuck the WWE, this shit suuuucked last two matches were good tho
calmrose 11.19.18	yeah really lame ppv overall we had someone pee his pants...in 2018
bloc 11.19.18	Damn whaaat? I thought SS was really good overall, much better than expected. There were some wtf moments for sure (pissing pants and Raw getting the clean sweep, to name a few) but damn those last 2 matches were sweet. The Charlotte and Rhonda match kicked asssssssss. One of my favourite post-match segments in a long time. Maybe the Raw clean sweep will lead to Shane turning heel, I dunno.
Minushuman24 11.19.18	I am very afraid that they are just gonna forget about Becky's place in the Rhonda feud. And they will just go with Charlotte/Rhonda.
bloc 11.19.18	Might be a triple threat at mania? Seems like they booked Charlotte last night the same way they were gonna book Becky before she got injured. Now we got two badass women in the house sweet
Minushuman24 11.19.18	Yeah, a triple threat would be alright. But I was hoping that this would end up becoming a blood feud between the two. That is what I think of when I think of a main event match. I guess it still can be one, but eh. Happy Charlotte is a baddie again tho.
bloc 11.19.18	Yeah I think that was supposed to be her heel turn but the crowd ate it up. Exact same thing that happened when Becky turned on Charlotte. They were booing Rhonda by the end of it lol. I'd rather Rhonda turn heel tbh. Also liking Nia now too, she did a good job embracing the hate.
DinosaurJones 11.19.18	Yo, that Ciampa/Dream match was awesome!
calmrose 11.19.18	Ciampa/Dream, Black/Gargano, and the War Games match were all bonkers levels of awesome Baszler/Sane was also cool, though I was a bit disappointed, felt like it should have shifted into a higher gear but never did
calmrose 11.19.18	all that to say that TakeOver annihilated another main event ppv
bloc 11.19.18	I liked both, but yeah Takeover was the clear winner. I might even call Ciampa/Dream, Black/Gargano, and War Games some of the best matches I've ever seen. Black/Gargano might even be as good as Black/Dream from last year.
DinosaurJones 11.19.18	I haven't watched SvS yet, I don't even know if I'm going to, since I know the results. Is it worth it? I knew TakeOver was gonna be good.
bloc 11.19.18	I thought SS was great. The last two matches were some of the best on the main roster this year.
Minushuman24 11.19.18	Baszler/Sane was ultra disappointing to me. Especially because I thought that their last match was one of the best women's matches I've ever seen, and my second favorite of the night. Black/Gargano was nutso, even better than Black/Dream and maaaybe Black/Cole I've seen a lot of complaints of false finishes on Dream/Ciampa. Fuck that, that match was beautiful War Games was great, but I don't think it compared to the first year.
bloc 11.20.18	I liked this War Games a lot more than last year
ExhaleTheLight 11.20.18	Just watched Raw and it is complete trash. Only thing saving the show is the Ambrose and Rollins feud. What they’re doing rn with Braun, Drew, Balor is a waste.
Storm In A Teacup 12.17.18	think it's time for this thread to get some revival https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ-DFJ_MQQE
bloc 12.17.18	TLC was pretty solid I think. Last match was awesome as expected. Surprised to see Drew loosing to Finn though. I am thinking triple threat with Dolph at WM.
Minushuman24 12.17.18	TLC ruled man.
Storm In A Teacup 12.17.18	All that matters is Becky winning the Rumble and taking Rondas title as the final match of Wrestlemania.
calmrose 12.17.18	TLC was okay, pretty so-so overall I'd say. Only exceptional matches were Bryan/Styles and the Smackdown Women's TLC match. Rousey/Nia was good and everything else ranged from okay to pretty meh. What the heck happened with Ambrose/Rollins? Huge disappointment with that match; should have made it a TLC match or something like that and just let them go all out like Gargano/Ciampa
bloc 12.17.18	I feel like Raw always sucks but the PPVs are always enjoyable at the very least lol. Especially this year. Curious to see what happens with Vince on Raw tonight. As for Rollins/Ambrose even the crowd shat on it hard. I didn't think much of it, but I didn't think it was THAT bad, was it? Those two guys are generally well liked.
ExhaleTheLight 12.18.18	Somehow WWE makes me not want this feud to go on anymore. How the fuck can they mess it up this bad ?
bloc 12.18.18	I know same. You have two amazing actors yet the feud is so generic and boring. Bring Renee into the fuckin fold or something please. Anyone see Raw last night? Shakeup my ass. We'll see in 4 weeks if anything has changed lol
Storm In A Teacup 12.18.18	Don't worry guys. In a couple years we will be enjoying Smackdown on Fox and AEW on national tv with consistently great and competitive shows.
bloc 12.19.18	Not gonna lie, I felt bad for Corbin. Dude's gotten really good on the mic and has a perfectly punchable face. The fact that in storyline they use him as the one responsible for shitty RAW's is stupid as RAW has been bad well before he became GM. They even bring out the 4 McMahons to talk shit at him when they're the ones signing off on this shit in and everyone knows it lol
Storm In A Teacup 12.19.18	Yup I had the exact same thoughts.
calmrose 12.19.18	Corbin is terrible, but yeah, it's pretty laughable that they're blaming RAW tanking because of him, as if we're supposed to forget that it's Vince running everything
Storm In A Teacup 12.19.18	We can't forget that this means they are also shitting on Paige. I'm curious about how they treat her character tonight.
ExhaleTheLight 12.22.18	Smackdown is doing better again but man I miss the post draft Smackdown days, something about it just clicked. That’s when the product was at its best in the “reality” era
DropTune 12.24.18	Long time no see. How's everyone doing?
bloc 12.25.18	Funny how almost 3 years later, the description for 6 rings true now more than ever
ExhaleTheLight 12.25.18	Yes they’re going all in with the women and I love it. I do not like Rousey’s super push however. Hope everyone was well, Raw was in Sacramento last week and I was really contemplating on going. I’m glad I didn’t.
BallsToTheWall 12.25.18	Bbruh, I hate what they’re doing with Lashley.
bloc 12.25.18	Saw spoilers for this week's Raw taping and damn it looked weak. Didn't even bother watching. Agreed about Lashley. He was such a good heel in TNA.
Storm In A Teacup 12.25.18	the only thing WWE I'm fully invested in is Becky Lynch. Otherwise I'm just waiting for AEW to start up and gonna put money into that new machine.
bloc 12.25.18	Eh we'll see what happens with that AEW shit. I'd rather current promotions just do a good job than just get a brand new promotion
DropTune 12.26.18	AEW is a completely different animal. Living in Florida, I can say the wrestling scene is certainly on alert. It benefits the indie scene because, despite a majority of current and retired wrestlers living in Florida, the local scene is rather weak. Aside from NXT touring Florida every week, there aren't any other promotions that accomplish a similar feat. WWE simply got too comfortable at the top. They failed to adapt to modern wrestling trends because they firmly believe they set the standard, not the other way around. Signing indie talent won't do you any good. The wheel keeps turning and new stars develop. WWE doesn't need to go TV 14 and relive the Attitude Era. All they have to do is deliver an exciting top of the line product each week. Apparently this is hard to ask for but that's the only way out of this situation. They need to stop being so mediocre and predictable. There's too much resentment between fans and promotions.
Storm In A Teacup 12.26.18	agreed 100% droptune
DropTune 12.26.18	It's a very interesting situation. Pro-wrestling is going to change in 2019. WWE is in a tough spot. Now is the time to watch all promotions to see what happens. WWE is on a corrections course for sure. They just need to figure a happy medium and stop underestimating their fans. I see a lot of comments saying "oh, they should just use NXT's formula for RAW and SD Live." The formula used for 205 and NXT are primarily for viewers who know the indies and are familiar with these superstars. That's why 205 Live bombs in front of a SMACKDOWN audience. The fans aren't familiar with these wrestlers. Despite 5 star performances, the crowd couldn't care less. That is proof this product will flop in a mainstream audience. What WWE has to do is tweak that presentation (i.e. NXT and 205 Live) to make fans care about it. An easy way to do it would be to not treat 205 Live like the red-headed step kid of their product. They also need to acknowledge both NXT and 205 Live as legitimate brands equivalent to RAW and SMACKDOWN.
Storm In A Teacup 01.05.19	WWE needs to stop the bullshit "not enough tv time" excuse for under used talent. It's time to stop holding back creatively and it's time to learn what audiences like and don't like and do what they like. Basically it's time for WWE to pull their shit together and grow the fuck up.
DropTune 01.05.19	WWE knows what audiences like. They have teams of people who study wrestling trends and read reviews. They are well aware of today's wrestling scene. WWE does what they want to do because that's how they like things done. WWE does not adapt to modern wrestling trends. Their way of doing so is signing a guy like Finn Balor and throwing him on TV every week. What WWE needs to do is cycle their talent in and out of TV to allow proper development.
Minushuman24 01.06.19	Hard agree ^^^
Minushuman24 01.06.19	Not WWE, but I'm headed to Wrestlepalooza tonight. The only match I know that's for sure is David Arquette/Colt Cobana. And then there's like, burlesque and a concert by the Dillinger Four. Should be rad.
DropTune 01.07.19	I'm gearing up for tomorrow. I'm driving up to the AEW/SMACKDOWN event.
bloc 01.07.19	Oh shit that has the potential to be pretty exciting. I'd be paying more attention to what might be happening in the parking lot vs what's happening in the ring haha
ExhaleTheLight 01.08.19	Can’t wait for AEW, maybe it’ll spur WWE into good booking again. I’m so tired of how all my favorites besides Rollins have been handled, depending on how WM35 is will make or break my subscription
Minushuman24 01.08.19	I don't know why I gave Raw another shot last night.
DinosaurJones 01.09.19	Yeah, I'm about to cancel my Network subscription, tbh. I might wait until after the rumble, but... I'm just in one of my disinterested periods. I'll still keep up with it, I always do, even if I'm not watching. But that's gonna be the first of my monthly subscriptions I cut to save some more money.
bloc 01.09.19	My brotha just watch the shit illegally online at your convenience like I've been doing for years
Storm In A Teacup 01.09.19	watchwrestling.in
Minushuman24 01.09.19	I might just start doing that. At least Smackdown still rules
bloc 01.09.19	Yeah SD and NXT are still awesome
DinosaurJones 01.09.19	damn, thanks, Storm. Now I'm definitely cancelling, haha.
ExhaleTheLight 01.09.19	They ended the blood Ambrollins feud which sucks. Universal title picture still sucks too. Strowman has last a lot of steam. They finally booked Bobby Lashley great however
ExhaleTheLight 01.09.19	DB’s heel run has ruled, Rusev is champion again, and Becky is still kicking ass
Storm In A Teacup 01.09.19	And Chris Jericho and Neville showed up to the AEW press conference. Both are now signed to AEW. They teased possibly Neville vs Hangman Page vs Chris Jericho for the first AEW championship match. Billy Gunn is now on board as Producer.
bloc 01.09.19	I am not into Rusev as much anymore. Him doing his solo Rusev Day gimmick is just so damn cheesy. That promo he cut in the ring the week after winning the title was cringe. It's like he had nothing memorized and was just trying to be cute/funny. And wow those are some big names for AEW. They def won't be losing steam any time soon.
DropTune 01.09.19	While attending the AEW/SD event, I can confirm all of those rumors are true. SD Live was nothing special. I enjoyed the AEW rally. They offered a free meet & greet afterwards with Cody, Brandi, Young Bucks, Hangman, and SCU. SD Live was kicking out fans wearing AEW shirts. Attendance to SD Live was very poor as well. Everything behind the hard cam was tarped off. The show itself wasn't that great either. It was better than the RAW event that came here, but the matches were okay. Nothing really special about it.
bloc 01.09.19	Lmao they kicked out people wearing AEW shirts wow
Storm In A Teacup 01.11.19	I think Daniel Bryan has turned into Mankind. He's doing what Vince told AJ to do. 5/5
bloc 01.11.19	Yeah he's amazing. I think he's at his best when he's against an AJ, whether it's AJ Lee or AJ Styles lol
DinosaurJones 01.11.19	Raw is just dire. SD is still decent, it's a shame attendance is so low. I don't get it.
DropTune 01.12.19	Both RAW and SD are about the same. I prefer SD because their roster, in my opinion, has more depth. SD's only vice is their mid card problem. There isn't a strong mid card vision on either RAW or SD. The tag team division is also quite poor on both shows.
Storm In A Teacup 01.12.19	MGM Grand Garden Arena will be sold out for Double or Nothing I would bet. Wonder what kind of tv deal it will recieve?
bloc 01.12.19	That's the question everyone is asking. Nothing seems promising until that is established.
Storm In A Teacup 01.12.19	well apparently Jericho is getting paid more than WWE was paying him so the Khans are willing to throw their billion around
bloc 01.12.19	I heard 100 mill has been invested in AEW but I doubt we'll ever know for sure
Storm In A Teacup 01.12.19	from what I read mgm seats 16800 to 17200 but it's supposed to be double 10k....
bloc 01.12.19	Eh you know they gotta throw out that "double" term for hype. 16k is still a really good turn out for them.
DropTune 01.13.19	It's true that the Khan's have invested an estimated 100 million into AEW. The MGM Grand will be hosting Double or Nothing. I believe it's plausible that they can pull 20,000 fans into the arena if they offer appropriate seating. It will most certainly sell out regardless of attendance. There's no way it wouldn't. The question, however, is what WWE will do about it.
Storm In A Teacup 01.14.19	take the donald trump approach
ExhaleTheLight 01.16.19	Mustafa Ali was on Talk is Jericho, should we be worried for him? Lol
bloc 01.16.19	As long as he didn't utter a single word he is safe lol
ExhaleTheLight 01.16.19	Then Rip is main roster push
DropTune 01.18.19	Are we just going to ignore the fact Andrade and Mysterio put on a MOTY contender on live TV?
Storm In A Teacup 01.18.19	The Revival have asked for their release and WWE has begged them to give them 3 months to prove they are changing for the better.
bloc 01.18.19	Lol for real Storm? That's hilarious. Also interesting to see the clip of Alexa chaning on Raw has like 5 mil views haha
DropTune 01.19.19	WWE is simply admitting complacency. They let their guard down and allowed something like AEW to start. They can only blame themselves for that. They should be putting forth their best effort every week--not when they have no choice otherwise. They took advantage of their audience and wrestlers.
bloc 01.19.19	I am not the biggest fan of the AEW crew, but I am looking forward to what they do indeed
bloc 01.27.19	Damn I am gonna miss my boys in UE not holding the tag team gold anymore
DinosaurJones 01.27.19	I really wonder if they're going to have Balor go over tomorrow... I give it like a 10% chance
Minushuman24 01.27.19	I dunno man, I feel like there's a decent chance. I feel like it would be the perfect time for Lesnar to drop the title as a surprise. Plus, they're "changing", if that means anything they'd drop that title.
Storm In A Teacup 01.27.19	it almost feels like it could be mid 2000s No Way Out when Latino Heat won the championship from Lesnar with only a month before Wrestlemania but it's not the same situation at all. I don't really give a fuck though because that title is meaningless and shit. Anyway. NXT Takeover last night was amazing.
LunaticSoul 01.27.19	NXT keeps being the best US wrasslin' show WWE is ready for AEW since main roster is a different show for a different target. AEW is a competitor for NXT and NJPW expansion Also I like the elite but they are overestimating their mainstream reach. TV is gonna flunk. Jericho or not
Storm In A Teacup 01.27.19	I don't think you have gathered sufficient intelligence of the situation to have posted such an in depth hot take.
bloc 01.27.19	I have a feeling they might put Balor over too, which would be cool. I like Lesnar but he doesn't need to be champ to be an attraction. Not to mention the title will finally back on fuckin tv. I'm also interested in how they order the card. Because the winners of the RR matches have a huge effect on the title match winners and vice versa.
Storm In A Teacup 01.27.19	I think we should get to 4K comments for Wrestlemania this year. I also am interested bloc, but even more than that, I'm genuinely excited. I really hope The Man Stone Cold Bad Ass Becky Lynch wins or loses to Asuka and wins the Royal Rumble under Charlotte's nose. Imagine if she won the Smackdown championship and there was a loophole allowing her in the Rumble and challenge Rousey. Imagine if she has two matches at Wrestlemania one defending for Smackdown and one challenging Raw. ughhhhhh a teacup can only dream...
bloc 01.27.19	4k comments would be sweeeeeet. And yeah same, this RR has a lot of mystery around it and it's just the best feeling. There are the typical people that'll probably win, but with the "LET'S SHAKE IT UP" movement they might do some crazy shit. I also wonder how they expect to keep everyone looking strong. Particularly Becky vs. Asuka. Neither one of them are in any position to get pinned right now. I suspect interference in that match.
bloc 01.27.19	What the hell, they put the title back on Nak?? Looks like he renewed his contract...
Storm In A Teacup 01.28.19	I can't believe Becky just tapped out. She must be winning the royal rumble 100% or I will be crushed.
calmrose 01.28.19	why is Shane McMahon winning a championship in 2019? also, really hoping Becky wins the Rumble now, seems to be likely since Asuka/Becky was the first match also, Cole needs to stop over-emphasizing nicknames, "kickout at two by THE BAWWWS"
bloc 01.28.19	I have a feeling Becky will beat someone up and take their spot in the rumble. Maybe Carmella at #30.
DinosaurJones 01.28.19	Close, bloc. Crowd is dead for this WWE Title match. Oh, hai, Rowan.
DinosaurJones 01.28.19	Oh, wait... I get it. Daniel Bryan, Rowan and Harper... THE BEARD BROTHERS.
calmrose 01.28.19	damn, no demon
DinosaurJones 01.28.19	Garbage.
calmrose 01.28.19	Double J! holy crap
bloc 01.28.19	I liked the Balor match a lot. Lesnar vs little guy matches are always so fuckin good. I did think Balor was gonna win with that coup de grace though lol. Ahhh silly me
calmrose 01.28.19	match was great agreed, especially from a storytelling perspective
Minushuman24 01.28.19	The Royal Rumble was such a stellar show. For the first time in recent memory, WWE beat NXT.
Storm In A Teacup 01.28.19	heather casden, mad rock settlement, maze of relativity, the green meadow, stratosville, concord apartment settlement, the vault tec quest line, home sweet home yet another player home,fairline hill original?, Barrenwood, emerald necklace, bilgeville worldspace, MoreXplore, Pembroke (canada), playerhome/settlement: the grove natick substation, MDXC player home,
bloc 01.28.19	That Nia segment during the men's rumble actually made me say "what the fuck" out loud lol. I bet they're gonna get killer heat from critics for that one... I dig inter gender matches every now and then, but was it really necessary for the guys to beat her up? She hasn't done anything to the guys lol. You'd think it'd be during the women's rumble that she finally gets her comeuppance and all the women beat her up.
joshieboy 01.28.19	Becky Lynch is as over as anyone's been for a while l reckon. Nia getting an RKO the highlight. My watching of current WWE is just watching the big 4 PPV's but have been a fan since l was a kid and love the old stuff. Gotta ask though, how the fuck do people do the 2 hour pre-show, then 5 hour show? Overkill imo.
Minushuman24 01.28.19	I usually check out for a couple of the matches and stare at my phone or skype. Unfortunately that was the Bryan/Styles match for me. and I also skipped the pre-show, cause fuck that noise.
bloc 01.28.19	Yeah the crowd was dead for Styles/Bryan which is a shame. Should have switched it around with that moronic McMiz match...Pre-show was alright this time around because it had 3 matches. Rest is skippable. I always have PPVs running in the background while I cook, clean, do what I need to do during that time. It's hard enough to sit down for 2.5 hours to watch a movie these days, let alone for 7 hours for a PPV lol
Storm In A Teacup 01.28.19	"I dig inter gender matches every now and then, but was it really necessary for the guys to beat her up? She hasn't done anything to the guys lol. You'd think it'd be during the women's rumble that she finally gets her comeuppance and all the women beat her up. This Type of Thinking (Could Do Us In) in all seriousness though your perspective is bitch made bloc. you call yourself someone who can enjoy Limp Bizkit? LIES! DECEIT! TREACHERY! Intergender matches are a real thing on the indies bloc and part of the SJW movement to bring fairness to matches regardless if you have a penis or a va jay jay. in other words, stop being a bitch, bloc!!!
Storm In A Teacup 01.28.19	I had tears streaming down my face when Becky made it into the Rumble. Better than Daniel Bryan at Wrestlemania thirty something.
bloc 01.28.19	Hahaha I know it's a big thing on the indies, but what was the reason for having those 3 guys do their finishing move on her and throw her out? It has nothing to do with any relevant storyline going on right now. She's been a bitch to the women, so have the women kick her ass instead. For years the WWE has never let a guy lay a hand on a woman (probably since Randy RKO'd Steph on Raw) so why start now with a woman who has nothing to do with the guys right now is what I'm saying.
Storm In A Teacup 01.28.19	bloc did you not know they plan to go back to the adult era and the PG era is ending? it was planned for the last year. Fox and WWE have it in their contract that there is no PG era when Smackdown goes to fox. "having those 3 guys do their finishing move on her" lmao
Storm In A Teacup 01.28.19	I am an AEW stan but even if there were no AEW and WWE hadn't said they would be better, this is still the direction I have been expecting them to take.
bloc 01.28.19	I did not know about that lol. I will believe it when it starts to become a regular thing.
Storm In A Teacup 01.28.19	unfortunately FOX also doesn't want comedy which WWE is great at whether it's intentional or unintentional.
bloc 01.28.19	Lol no doubt their unintentional comedy tends to be superior to their intentional comedy
BallsToTheWall 01.28.19	RIP! Nia! Also, anyone else hate heel Ambrose?
Storm In A Teacup 01.28.19	Ambrose did defend like 4 or 5 times during the month he was champion but other than that it's not a good look overall.
Storm In A Teacup 01.28.19	R Truth is looking for Nia right now wanting to fight her.
bloc 01.28.19	Someone's gonna get GOT
joshieboy 01.29.19	If l got told on the day of the show the plan was ''yeah, you're in the rumble but we're gonna do a jumped from behind spot'' i'd be pissed.
Storm In A Teacup 01.29.19	Good Raw, better Becky. She's giving all of her to us and I am in love
Storm In A Teacup 01.29.19	wow apparently the rumors are true that Dean Ambrose is tired of the wrestling business and will retire for good after Wrestlemania.
LunaticSoul 01.29.19	Bryan Styles has been a poorly built, slow ordeal with a shit finish. I guess WWE knows they can't fucking keep the attention up for 7 hours and it was the sanctioned piss break match. Women's rumble in the beginning has been kinda poor; I'm sorry but half the midcard roster is green as f**k. So many botches. Becky/Asuka was good, but again you can see Asuka was with the brake set on because even the "four horsewomen" are some steps behind the true masters of the craft On Nia Jax.. She got in because she's overweight, because she's green and has massive heat because she's a poor wrestler. not because of anything else. She knows it, the fans know it, WWE knows it etc. . . I for one have thoroughly enjoyed seeing her getting a RKO. Consider me entertained
Storm In A Teacup 01.29.19	Mark my words the intergender specialist Candice LeRae will win the Intercontinental Championship or the North American Championship or the Cruiserweight Championship.
Deez 01.29.19	As a long time MMA fan I always said Rousey would go to pieces when teh crowd turned on her. Ive seen it before. She cannot take any form of criticism. She cant hold a straight face she does that thing where half her face is fighting to act normal. You saw it on Raw. Messing up her lines. And that face. Its crazy how mentally weak a woman is who fought for a living inside a cage.
ExhaleTheLight 01.29.19	Holy shit Ambrose is leaving WWE
Valzentia 01.29.19	Ambrose leaving isn’t confirmed yet but its an unfortunate possibility. Also, Rousey is generic.
ExhaleTheLight 01.29.19	Well the way he has been booked recently gives the signs he wants out. It’s juat shocking to see a main event level star and one of their biggest workhorses leave. Reminds me of the CM punk situation without the controversy.
Minushuman24 01.29.19	woah the fuck, ambrose is leaving?! The first half of the woman's royal rumble did suck yes. It didn't get good until Becky got in, then it was a really great match. I guess It wasn't bad when Rhea got in, that woman's a beast.
Storm In A Teacup 01.29.19	What the fuck that entire womens rumble was awesome. I loved it all.
ExhaleTheLight 01.29.19	Drunk Chris Jericho was right
bloc 01.29.19	Wtf he's leaving??? I was wonder what the hell that segment with Nia was on Raw. Was it supposed to go down like that? Agreed the first several min of the women's rumble was bad. Luckily it picked up quick. Also so interesting to see Rhonda out there solo with the crowd. She def cracked a bit. Her final promo against Becky was good though. I also hear that she is leaving after WM.
LunaticSoul 01.29.19	https://streamable.com/cylzo LOOOOOOL
ExhaleTheLight 01.29.19	And now there's rumors going around that Brock might retain at WM35. lmfao
bloc 01.29.19	Haha sooooooo many rumors, so little time. I think he would retain, if, and only if, Roman is scheduled to return soon after WM. That way they don't need to have Rollins and Roman face each other for the title, since they're both babyfaces.
Storm In A Teacup 01.29.19	In 8 days Kenny Omega will sign to AEW.
ExhaleTheLight 01.29.19	I probably would have shat my pants in excitement if he was a surprise RR entrant but I would've been royally pissed of at the same time. Him not signing with AEW in a heartbeat just builds up the momentum for when he does.
bloc 01.29.19	Yeah all signs are pointing to him going to Eh-ee-dub but you never know. The only reason why he wasn't at the RR was because he's still under contract with NJPW for a few more days, no? Also Roman's starring in his first movie role it seems. He's gonna play The Rock's brother in a Fast and Furious spinoff.
DinosaurJones 01.30.19	WWE themselves put up an article saying that Ambrose isn't renewing his contract when it runs out. They also used his real name. So I guess it's legit. I wonder if he's going to retire or take a break and then go somewhere else.
Storm In A Teacup 01.30.19	holy mother of God, R Truth just won the US Title cleanly from Shinsuke
Storm In A Teacup 01.30.19	holy mother of God, R Truth just won the US Title cleanly from Shinsuke
Storm In A Teacup 01.30.19	I absolutely love when they tell extended stories on Smackdown and Raw. It's almost like sometimes they realize they have the run time of a movie available to tell an in depth story.
ExhaleTheLight 01.30.19	That WWE statement seems really fishy, it can either be a work or actually Ambrose leaving. It’s 50/50 at this point.
ExhaleTheLight 01.30.19	That WWE statement seems really fishy, it can either be a work or actually Ambrose leaving. It’s 50/50 at this point.
Storm In A Teacup 01.31.19	It's looking near safe to say that it is officially not a work and Ambrose is leaving.
ExhaleTheLight 02.02.19	He was the reason that got me back into modern wrestling after I stopped watching for a long period. Seeing him as the de facto leader to the shield brought an edge to a company that’s been slowing declining. I wish the best for him. All the AEW talk is annoying af
Storm In A Teacup 02.02.19	I would say it is the opposite of annoying. Exciting. Based on some of what Renee has posted I would guess Dean is probably going to AEW if this is not a work.
LunaticSoul 02.03.19	If Deano goes to AEW. . . Tier list AEW: Kenny Deano ChrisJ . . . Penta Cody PAC . . . Page That's a good singles roster to start with dare I say
bloc 02.03.19	I am starting to think the Dean thing might be a work. If they pull it off and fool everyone, that would be pretty cool tbh
LunaticSoul 02.04.19	I hope it's not a work and he actually really leaves and goes to AEW. That would put some salt in double M's ass, at least I hope AEW can be an American alternative as enjoyable as 2004-07 TNA was, with even better production values if they nail some good TV money cash Having said so, NXT has been better than ever this past two years, so at least in high-quality production indy-styled wrestling we are good to go. RoH has had a poor couple years, no foresight and I can't give two dimes on the talent left, since their best wrestlers (Cobb, Scurll) will leave the fed soon.
DropTune 02.09.19	I'm getting sick of AEW click bait articles. "Breaking news--Little Jimmy was caught writing "AEW" on a sheet of paper. Is he signing with the company?"
Storm In A Teacup 02.09.19	Ring of Honor lost all hope when the Adam Cole and Maria stable broke up
bloc 02.09.19	Lmao that's the best one I've heard
Storm In A Teacup 02.09.19	oh my god Paige and Ronnie Radke are in a relationship together. RED ALERT
bloc 02.09.19	She's taking "fighting with my family" literally
Storm In A Teacup 02.14.19	Jimmy Uso tried fighting cops and went in for drunken disorderly conduct after his wife drove down the wrong way of a one way road.
bloc 02.15.19	For fuck's sake when will they learn
Storm In A Teacup 02.15.19	at least it wasn't Jey again.
Minushuman24 02.15.19	The Jimmy Uso thing kind of creates a weird situation for the WWE. Do they punish him? or do they act like it never happened to stop them from leaving?
bloc 02.16.19	Good point actually, depends on when their contracts are up. If they're not expiring anytime soon, then they'll get punished lol.
Storm In A Teacup 02.16.19	pretty sure they treat these things differently now. Jeff Hardy and Jey both in the last year didn't receive any punishment
bloc 02.16.19	Question is will they win the tag titles at the PPV?
Storm In A Teacup 02.16.19	I doubt they were ever going to win in the first place.
bloc 02.16.19	Lol true that
Storm In A Teacup 02.17.19	how can Corey Graves live with himself? jesus christ. fucking asshole. Carmella too. She knew that his daughter viewed her as a hero and now they have destroyed his family.
Storm In A Teacup 02.17.19	Raw needs a new commentary team again between Renee not making any progress as an announcer and Corey for being a piece of shit. Michael Cole is the best announcer all over again!
bloc 02.17.19	Fuuuuuuck is that shit real? Just saw the news
Storm In A Teacup 02.17.19	And he told his wife she needed to stop exposing him because WWE would sue her.
bloc 02.17.19	If all this is true, then WWE would get crazy backlash from doing that
Storm In A Teacup 02.18.19	this is all the truth from his wife's perspective. no other perspectives out yet except Corey denying. i'm really excited about tonight's Elimination Chamber
calmrose 02.18.19	EC was a slog and very meh overall, but the main event (especially Kofi) was awesome, and Becky's beat down of Ronda and Charlotte with the crutch was awesome also
Minushuman24 02.18.19	Yeah hard agree. It was kinda background noise for the most part, but holy shit that main event was fantastic.
Storm In A Teacup 02.18.19	yeah I was so sure Kofi would win for about five minutes. heart broken, but optimistic. also I replayed the New Daniel Bryan's Captain Planet entrance and promo three times and want to go watch it again after posting this. 6/5 stars promo
Minushuman24 02.18.19	I have been showing ppvs to my canadian friend, and this was her third. First was NXT Wargames 2, Royal Rumble, and now Elimination Chamber. She instantly despised Daniel Bryan after that promo, even though he never lies. Bryan Danielson is such a god damn brilliant mind when it comes to wrestling.
Storm In A Teacup 03.03.19	Boooo
DinosaurJones 03.03.19	People really seem to think they're going to insert Kofi vs DB at Mania. I just... I don't see it happening.
Storm In A Teacup 03.03.19	No clue but I hope for it at least. My brother is convinced that is what's happening. It could be anything at this rate, but I think Kofi will be in it.
bloc 03.03.19	So what the hell, KO is gonna lose at Fast Lane for no reason? That damages him a lot
Minushuman24 03.03.19	I really want KO to win the title tbh
bloc 03.03.19	Same, but either way they're kinda booking him as a heel (since he stole the moment from Kofi) which is also kinda weird. Seems like they were setting him up to be a badass face, which he would do really well imo
Minushuman24 03.03.19	I don't know, he seemed almost a little reluctant, and it plays into his family man character really well. The Tag match was badass Owens.... which I missed so much.
Storm In A Teacup 03.03.19	And now Mustafa Ali has returned and is immediately wrestling Daniel Bryan. No idea what could happen. A Fatal 4 Way at mania maybe even...
Valzentia 03.04.19	I want Kofi vs. Bryan at Mania tbh. Kofi deserves the title.
Trebor. 03.04.19	I ran into Paige at work but I didn't know who she was so I just kept walking
Storm In A Teacup 03.04.19	bad story
Storm In A Teacup 03.04.19	I ran into Steel Panther and didn't know who they were, but I talked to them anyway and they liked me so na na na trebor goodbye.
joshieboy 03.05.19	The Becky/Ronda/Charlotte storyline has been messed up so fucking badly. Why is it Becky needing to win to get into the match at Mania when she won the damn Rumble. That's some fuckin 2000/2001 WCW booking.
Storm In A Teacup 03.05.19	Wow no wonder I didn't watch last night lol
ExhaleTheLight 03.05.19	I’m more upset that my man Ciampa is probably injured
Storm In A Teacup 03.05.19	Well you know what they say...one in every four MXT call-ups...
bloc 03.05.19	Relatively good Raw episode yesterday. Something about Batista being a heel is so captivating lol. Yeah Becky needing to win a match to get back into the WM match is hilarious, given that she won the Rumble lol. Kinda enjoyed seeing her get destroyed by Rhonda yesterday though, not gonna lie.
ExhaleTheLight 03.06.19	Yep there are reports now that Ciampa will get neck surgery and he will be out for a long time. Dude can’t catch a break :( Now they gotta rebuild NXT
bloc 03.06.19	Shit that really puts a dent in the next Takeover then. They'll probably do a match to determine who will get the vacant title, and maybe put Gargano over. That could have been the plan the entire time if he were to face Ciampa.
ExhaleTheLight 03.07.19	Pretty much the next person who’ll get the title. Aleister and Ricochet are officlly main roster stars now. What’s stupid is sending a bunch of nxt people to the main roster and not even use them. Like wtf happened to EC3
bloc 03.07.19	This group of call-ups is easily the worst booked of the bunch, and that's sad because it's got some of their best and also some of their "worst" of NXT. As for EC3, he's still holding that spray bottle to wipe that mirror backstage. And fuckin finally Joe got some gold. Hope he holds it for a long time.
Storm In A Teacup 03.19.19	i just realized since togethertube supports daily motion/vimeo we could literally watch wwe together and live chat about it.
ExhaleTheLight 03.19.19	Next nxt takeover it is then
Storm In A Teacup 03.20.19	Kofi!
bloc 03.21.19	Hard to believe WM is in 3 weeks. I feel like there's only like 4 or 5 matches announced so far lol
Storm In A Teacup 03.21.19	wow bloc. 17 matches probably and 9 of them are pretty much confirmed. lol
ExhaleTheLight 03.21.19	Adam Cole vs Johnny Gargano is gonna be so hype
bloc 03.21.19	Lol I heard 17 too, fuckin blew my mind
DropTune 03.27.19	NXT Takeover is going to be amazing. Can't wait!!!
DinosaurJones 03.29.19	a couple of my friends are going to WM. I hope they're prepared to be there for like 9 hours
bloc 03.29.19	You know shit's long when you eat a big ass meal right before an event and at the end of the event you're fuckin starving again
Storm In A Teacup 03.29.19	I would be getting so fucking stoned over and over again the whole show if I was there. Though I would do that at home watching as well...lol
Minushuman24 04.16.19	Man, Raw has been just the fucking worst lately. Maybe I'm losing my love for it? Maybe it's just been too shitty to like.
calmrose 04.16.19	THE VIKING EXPERIENCE what is you doing WWE?
Jaymann 04.16.19	I used to be a big wrestling fan. But I don't watch much anymore. I watched Wrestlemania and was not impressed at all. I think I prefer Ring of Honor and New Japan overall but I don't watch a lot of that either tbh. I am more into MMA and Boxing these days.
calmrose 04.16.19	Wrestlemania was garbage save for Bryan/Kofi
Jaymann 04.16.19	I did enjoy the Bryan vs Kofi match. I thought it was the best match of the card.
calmrose 04.16.19	easily the best match of the card, nothing else came close
ExhaleTheLight 04.16.19	Miz v Shane could’ve been the best match on the card if it wasn’t for that stupid ending
bloc 04.16.19	This years's WM was so boring, I could have skipped it and regretted nothing. Post Raw and SD were the same. "Man, Raw has been just the fucking worst lately. Maybe I'm losing my love for it? Maybe it's just been too shitty to like." Duuuuude same. While WM was going on I felt like something was changing inside me and it hasn't gone away. Just not interested whatsoever.
Storm In A Teacup 04.17.19	it's about time WWE gets a hard slap to the face. at the very least. we should all spend money on AEW or NJPW shit and say fuck wwe. Look what they have done to almost everyone now. Incompetence at the highest level.
bloc 04.17.19	I honestly never got into NJPW
LunaticSoul 04.17.19	Takeover and G1 Supercard were both great shows (well, minus the ROH bullshit on G1). I have no idea how someone can enjoy 3 hours of Raw or 8 of Wrestlemania, I get fed up and or outright bored with 20 min highlights.
LunaticSoul 04.17.19	I went to G1 live and it was amazing seeing Okada get the title back. Also Naito/Ibushi was amazing. Ospreay/Cobb and the Jr/tag ROH vs NJPW matches are worth a watch. I'd totally recommend the show to a newcomer, just skip the 3vs3 and the woman match which were shit as hell. Poor Mayu
bloc 04.17.19	Takeover is always godly. NXT is easily my favourite "promotion" these days. Lucha Underground might have been 2nd if it was still around.
LunaticSoul 04.17.19	If you like NXT, I see no reason you shouldn't like NJPW. NJPW wrestling is amazing, still the best in the world despite losing Kenny, and the presentation is good enough (the shows that are worthy to watch all have english commentary these days, and NJPW World is cheap and has a shitton of backlog stuff), really sports-like,the stories make sense, are long term and consistent and you don't feel like as if the guys who write the stuff treat you like you were dumb as they do in WWE. NXT is ROH with a big budget and better stories. I really really like NXT but to me NJPW is the pinnacle of wrestling and has been for the past 4 years or so, from Styles' second reign
bloc 04.18.19	That's the thing, I've always been more into the characters, drama, and promos than the actual wrestling haha.
ExhaleTheLight 04.18.19	It’s funny how WWE don’t know how to handle the new champs everyone wanted. It’s like they did the fan service for the first time in a while but don’t know how to keep it going. The card is so stacked that many are asking for their releases and WWE really does not want to lose any talent to a rival promotion, hence why the Ambrose situation is the most interesting thing I’ve seen
bloc 04.19.19	They say AEW is offering him a 6 million dollar deal lol. God I love wrestling news. On another note, I won't lie...Smackdown was really good this week.
Storm In A Teacup 04.19.19	it's all bullshit until something actually happens. i don't care about the backstage stuff as a source for entertainment. i want wrestling. as in the characters, drama, and promos plus actual wrestling, but i don't want any of it as real life.
Storm In A Teacup 04.19.19	which is why Smackdown is really good yes. the iconics as champions are great. I don't like Bayley losing her first title defence right before being abandoned right before being squashed by Alexa AGAIN JUST AFTER WE ALL GOT OVER THE "THIS IS YOUR LIFE" SEGMENT BUT NOW WE ALL MUST REMEMBER. zstods'khe'o
ExhaleTheLight 04.19.19	That 6 million deal was reported by a fad website. I’m lowkey hoping he turns full on heel in that shield match and says he’s staying, that would be awesome
BallsToTheWall 04.19.19	Lana sex tape?
bloc 04.19.19	I love how Bayley got booed in Montreal lol. And claims to be a single star and free of her tag team and then they stick her in a tag team match right after with Naomi. Also agreed about the Dean thing, he shall be missed.
LunaticSoul 04.19.19	but i don't want any of it as real life. -- But wrestling has always mixed real life and kayfabe. That's what makes wrestling stories good lol
Storm In A Teacup 04.19.19	okay dude tell that to Bayley.
Storm In A Teacup 05.02.19	so then i'm like "fuck you"
bloc 05.02.19	I'll check Smackdown tonight, but damn Raw was bland this week. The new Wyatt stuff is the only thing they got going on and even then I know they're gonna mess it up somehow
Storm In A Teacup 05.03.19	Cancelled my free month trial. Still have 4 more days to use it thhough lol
bloc 05.04.19	Ahh trying to get Wrestlemania free eh
Storm In A Teacup 05.04.19	Do or do not, there is no try.
DinosaurJones 05.04.19	I like the new Wyatt stuff, but I'm about 90% sure they're gonna ruin it.
bloc 05.04.19	99% for me
Storm In A Teacup 05.04.19	100
ExhaleTheLight 05.06.19	EXPLICIT MOX VIOLENCE So excited for this dude wherever he turns up
bloc 05.07.19	I would think it's gonna be American Eagle Wrestling, there were some clues in the vid that hinted at it
ExhaleTheLight 05.07.19	It’s a no brained. Dude is a main eventer with a lot of star power. A feud with Cody or Omega would be amazing
bloc 05.08.19	Really good Firefly segment on Raw and I liked the promo between AJ and Seth
ExhaleTheLight 05.08.19	That was it though, Raw was terrible. Smack down was alright and it was interesting to see Rowan and Bryan win the tag titles but honestly I can’t stand WWE at the moment, this time I really need a long term break from watching. The wildcard rule is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever seen
bloc 05.08.19	Oh yeah the rest of Raw was horseshit
ExhaleTheLight 05.09.19	Patiently waiting for Double or Nothing. All the social media promos have been pretty good, Chris Jericho's recent one was pretty hilarious
Valzentia 05.09.19	can we take a minute to appreciate Rowan's music taste
bloc 05.10.19	I'm surprised they allow him to wear band shirts lol
DinosaurJones 05.12.19	I'm actually wondering who is going to win MitB. I see them going with the safe option in Orton, tbh. As far as the women go, I fully expect Alexa Bliss to win.
bloc 05.12.19	Those are the 2 worst options imo. Both won the briefcase so recently. Which is why yeah, they'll probably win lol
LunaticSoul 05.12.19	DoN can't come soon enough. I think AEW will operate at a definite loss for this year, maybe even next year. . . Hopefully crowd picks up when they actually start. I don't think the 200k they reach on average with their YT videos is enough to self sustain, but the public can be there
ExhaleTheLight 05.14.19	They have to build their brand up. As long as they keep up the hype and get people talking about the brand, it will grow.
DinosaurJones 05.14.19	I agree that those are the two worst options. Which is why I see them happening. Also, did you guys know that Rollins and Becky are dating? Because apparently WWE is super fucking excited about it.
bloc 05.15.19	Lol and what a coincidence, both wrestlers are losing steam fast
ExhaleTheLight 05.16.19	It's like WWE never knows what to do after giving fans what they want. Becky was overhyped af. Seth will probably always be a boring babyface imo, he should turn heel again.
ExhaleTheLight 05.16.19	AEW also landed a TV deal.............. with TNT. *Laughs in Monday Nitro*
bloc 05.16.19	Babyfaces are at their hottest when chasing. They get bland soooo quickly once they win the title. Even Kofi is losing steam. Good to hear about the tv deal, that's basically the last piece of the puzzle they needed. I hope they give WWE a good kick in the ass.
ExhaleTheLight 05.16.19	Which is why i preferred when Punk, Ambrose, Bryan, even Rollins, when they chased after the title
bloc 05.16.19	I'm not gonna lie, DB with the environmental gimmick was one of the best things on tv from recent memory. When heels hold titles and they can talk, it's amazing.
ExhaleTheLight 05.16.19	Which is why Owens, Punk, Y2J, Rollins were also the best heel champions in the more modern era of Wrestling
bloc 05.16.19	Yeah they were all gold
Valzentia 05.17.19	Ashley Massaro is dead... https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1129175515921833985
DinosaurJones 05.18.19	Damn. I was way into her back in the day, that's a shame. Also, forget what I said about Alexa winning MitB, I guess.
calmrose 05.20.19	the fuck was that
Storm In A Teacup 05.20.19	I'm not gonna lie, DB with the environmental gimmick was one of the best things on tv from recent memory. When heels hold titles and they can talk, it's amazing. (457109485782529-3456)
DinosaurJones 05.20.19	Yo, what the fuck, WWE. Who still thinks Brock Lesnar is a good idea?
LunaticSoul 05.21.19	DB with an environmental gimmick ofc was the villain. That brok segment on MITB was awful, made Ali look like a total chump. He was there waiting to have the broktrain come over for at least a minute. In a minute I can rant on the webz, jump up a ladder, take the suitcase and light up a cig.
bloc 05.23.19	Ugh they book babyfaces like complete idiots and that was a prime example. Good to see Bayley get some momentum with the title win though
bloc 05.26.19	Ending of DoN was godly
SlothcoreSam 05.26.19	AEW, AEW, AEW, AEW! Time for a new thread.
ExhaleTheLight 05.27.19	Y’all know I’m a big Ambrose/Mox fan so that ending was AMAZING
calmrose 05.27.19	he looked hella rejuvenated
ExhaleTheLight 05.27.19	Double or Nothing rejuvenated my love for wrestling, it was the best card I’ve seen in years and was engaged the whole way through. I was skeptical for the 50 dollar price tag and especially since I only knew half the people on the card, but man it was worth every penny. Dustin out here putting the best match of his career at 50 is amazing.
JeetJeet 05.27.19	We AEW now huh? Might finally start giving a shit about wrestling again if they keep putting out quality shit like that.
Valzentia 05.27.19	'twas a good show just grossly overhyped by marks I wanted Nyla to win that fatal four-way tho :(
bloc 05.27.19	Yeah the dentist winning was pointless. She would have been my last pick to win. That Bayley 2.0 chick has grown on me tbh, I was hoping she'd win. It will def be an overrated show, but it's a flawless start to their brand. No doubt fans are hungry (including me) to see what Mox does.
ExhaleTheLight 05.27.19	Also interesting to see Baker is currently dating Adam Cole atm. Kylie can actually be a better boiled version of Bayley. Also, Mox is appearing in NJPW June 5th, challenging Juice for his title
bloc 05.27.19	The way he transitioned from WWE to AEW and now other promotions is flawless. The fact that he went out of WWE with such praise is almost hilarious at this point, given the way they treat other wrestlers who leave/want to leave. Renee walking into Raw today is gonna be awkwarddddd lol
ExhaleTheLight 05.27.19	Well there’s an Indy date in August where the main event is Pentagón vs Mox, Renee is making an appearance there. I wouldn’t be surprised she leaves the company soon
bloc 05.27.19	Oh yeah no fuckin doubt now. Hard to believe WWE will be ok with that. I heard they were pissed at some of the roster who was tweeting about DoN. Would be mighty convenient for her if her contract was also ending soon.
LunaticSoul 05.27.19	Still hyped after three days
Minushuman24 05.27.19	Been like 3 or 4 weeks since I watched a WWE program. I am so hyped about AEW because of it I think; I haven't watched the ppv, but I'm planning on it soon.
ExhaleTheLight 05.27.19	I found it hilarious that WWE stopped following Mox on twitter once he debuted
bloc 05.28.19	Bwahaha that's hilarious
Storm In A Teacup 05.28.19	Mox is signed to NJPW too!! and from what I hear Raw las night was awful
bloc 05.28.19	Oh yeah it was fuckin bad. It was obvious Vince was "writing" the show as it was airing. They just kept bringing out the same people over and over again. The only good segment was the Bray Wyatt vid and Brock dancing in the ring.
LunaticSoul 05.28.19	They also proceeded to namedrop AEW on live telly, bumped up searches for Google for AEW in the process by a significant amount and then proceeded to remove it from the VOD. Lol.
bloc 05.28.19	Lol did they really remove that part from the replay? Ffs this company. They're probably gonna blame Sami and release his ass. How dumb do you gotta be to name drop a rival company who just aired their debut PPV a couple days ago and received critical acclaim? Shit the AEW chant has potential to be the next CM PUNK chant lol
ExhaleTheLight 05.28.19	Looks like Mox is only doing international stuff before AEW goes weekly. Crazy how the dude doesn’t want to stop the grind. And yeah Raw was a shitshow As for Punk.... I don’t want him in AEW.
bloc 05.28.19	Every man has a price. I would not be surprised if he eventually makes an appearance. As for Mox, I hope he signs full time with AEW. I think his new attitude and style would just go over the Japan crowd's heads. The man thrives in a loud, raunchy American arena.
calmrose 05.28.19	Mox did sign full time with AEW, multiple-year contract
bloc 05.28.19	Excellent my child
ExhaleTheLight 05.28.19	Yeah if anything he’s going to be their biggest star and pioneer the company. Judging from his first promo it looks like he’s all in with AEW and wants to make a change in the industry just like the VPs.
bloc 05.29.19	Yeah that was a great promo, he's def an AEW man
ExhaleTheLight 05.29.19	I’m sure he’s probably done with WWE not just because of creative reasons but also because of the way WWE has been operating and how they actually treated him. Dude almost died from a staph infection from injury and the grueling schedule resumed as soon as he came back. I also heard he didn’t like WWE making a deal and hosting events in Saudi Arabia, the dude actually stood by his beliefs unlike most of the roster. I still don’t understand why superstars don’t protest these Saudi events. It’s bad PR for WWE and they’re essentially providing entertainment to a violent and tyrannical regime. I guess all the money heading their way shuts up the superstars.
DinosaurJones 05.29.19	Certain superstars boycotting the Saudi events made me respect them a little more, like DB and Cena. On the other hand, guys that literally only showed up for a payday were really disappointing (Kane, HBK, Taker, etc)
ExhaleTheLight 05.29.19	They’re throwaway shows too. I don’t see the point of them being broadcasted on the network, they can be just like any regular house shows, but I assuming them being broadcasted is part of their deal. I haven’t watched a fully show of WWE in months and honestly I’m done until Vince retires. We should make an AEW thread lmao
calmrose 05.29.19	why is Shane Mcmahon getting more air time and wrestling more than, say, a guy like ALEISTER FUCKING BLACK?!?!?! I'm really excited for AEW and hope they are successful, WWE is just absolute shit right now
ExhaleTheLight 05.29.19	Yeah one of the best wrestlers on the roster, Aleister, is not wrestling and it pisses me off as he’s one of my favorites from the WWE roster.
bloc 05.29.19	The promos they're giving him are cringe as hell. Can't understand a word he's trying to say. Way too much thesaurus talk.
ExhaleTheLight 05.31.19	Sami Zayn is barred from the Saudi event because of his ethnicity. Shit is getting ridiculous.
bloc 05.31.19	Same thing happened with Zayn at last year's Saudi even. I also heard Al Black was asked not to go because of some questionable tattoos
Storm In A Teacup 05.31.19	WWE is trash and clearly thinks that being awful is a good long term strategy for whatever they are planning. They probably want AEW built up to have another war with them because it's the only way they think they would be consistently relevant to the mainstream again.
bloc 05.31.19	Their first Raw after DoN could have been something, but I dunno wtf they were thinking on that show lol
Storm In A Teacup 05.31.19	"They say they want wrestling? We'll show them!" or "We need to find a way to lower our ratings" That's all I can think of. Either way, I'm not falling for their bullshit. WWE is bad because they want to be bad.
Storm In A Teacup 05.31.19	We're all marks for a bunch of wrestlers and businessmen working the cycle.
bloc 05.31.19	Double or nothing? let's double the nothing!
ExhaleTheLight 05.31.19	B R O C K P A R T Y
bloc 06.01.19	I laughed when Rollins was on the mic cutting his promo to Brock in the ring and Brock just no sold the entire thing and said something like BOOM BOX BITCH. That line alone is gold.
ExhaleTheLight 06.01.19	Rollins couldn’t hold in his laughter either lmao. I like this brock
LunaticSoul 06.01.19	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWZpb4DQn0Y The tits the quality this stuff is. From bingo halls with love man. I love this
bloc 06.01.19	"Aw sheeiiit, here we go again"
calmrose 06.01.19	all four of these tag teams are going to be dead by the end of this match
bloc 06.02.19	Lol damn I forgot there was a Takeover today. I'll have to catch the replay tomorrow.
calmrose 06.02.19	Breeze has been so misused and underutilized on the main roster you forget how fucking incredible he actually is in the ring
calmrose 06.02.19	i could watch Cole and Gargano wrestle all day, every day and with that, another TakeOver that obliterates anything the main roster is currently doing
ExhaleTheLight 06.02.19	Too bad I cancelled my network subscription :(
joshieboy 06.03.19	Gargano-Cole 2 was as good as the original. Another 5 star masterpiece. Takeover is the best thing about WWE by a mile. No surprises that Vince isn't in charge of it and doesn't ruin it. I reckon most wrestlers now would rather be in NXT than on the main roster.
LunaticSoul 06.03.19	Watching the Breeze match made me sad. Man it must be shit to be good in the ring, and then you find yourself getting a promotion, only to be pidgeonholed in the comic relief role for three years. I think he could have had at least a legit US/IC run. Cole/Gargano was much better than the first, legit MOTYC. In terms of actual wrasslin' I think it was the best match I've seen this year, but tbh I'm not that excited about Cole as a champ, and Gargano's future in WWE if he gets called up.
bloc 06.03.19	I just want UE to stick together and never break up. Them and the first Shield are my 2 favourite factions in a looooooong time
ExhaleTheLight 06.03.19	So judging from Reddit I guess everyone has been getting annoyed of Gargano since he kicks out of every finisher ever used on him and it devalues the use of finishers in NXT
bloc 06.03.19	They're idiots. These are the same people who were jacking off to the last 3 matches of DoN lmao
LunaticSoul 06.03.19	I really didn't enjoy the first Gargano/Cole that much, considering Big dave meltz gave a 5.5 - It was barely barely barely a 4.25 in my books. The first two falls were boring and yes, Gargano took an End of Heartache, the UE tag combo sweep I have no clue how it's named, and a Last Shot practically in succession and kicked out lol. The last one though has been the tits, regardless of how I feel about Gargano moving up or a Cole champ run
DinosaurJones 06.05.19	I remember being excited when Shane came back to WWE... oh, how naive I was.
bloc 06.05.19	Lol yeah he's unbearable now. Sweating like hell even when cutting a basic promo lol
ExhaleTheLight 06.06.19	Is it me or is the R-truth stuff the only thing carrying this company besides NXT
DinosaurJones 06.06.19	I enjoy the Firefly Funhouse stuff, but they need to start doing more with it soon.
bloc 06.06.19	The FFH segment this week was the best main roster segment this year. Once it hits the ring, I think it'll go downhill quick though.
Minushuman24 06.06.19	For the last four months the only thing I've seen from this show was Firefly Funhouse, the 24/7 Championship stuff, and Brock's segments. The rest I have little to no interest in... I cannot wait for AEW tbh.
Storm In A Teacup 06.07.19	Shane's character should probably be killed off and it just stay that way.
DinosaurJones 06.09.19	Now wiggle your behind! ...ERASE YOUR MIND. Pull up your pants! And do the muscle man dance!
bloc 06.09.19	Return Of The Jeddah wasn't that bad honestly. Crowd was really good for the top guys, but they were super quiet for anyone in the midcard and lower. The Undertake/Goldberg match was a disaster though.
ExhaleTheLight 06.09.19	That’s the only match I managed to watch on YouTube since I don’t have the network anymore and holy shit both of them almost died
DinosaurJones 06.09.19	I get worried anytime Undertaker steps into a ring nowadays, tbh
Storm In A Teacup 08.01.19	sorry i haven't been part of the community lately on this thread and all of sputnik. miss you guys. hopefully i can come back nowadays.
DinosaurJones 08.02.19	Storm, ilu. I've been MIA lately too, and this thread has kind of gone to poop because I think so many people are fed up with the product (also, some jerk started an AEW general discussion thread, which also seems to not be doing well) RAW seems to be showing some improvement with Heyman at the helm though. And I still like what they're doing with Bray Wyatt.
Storm In A Teacup 08.04.19	I genuinely like what wwe has been doing half the time in the last month. I am shocked they haven't ruined Bray Wyatt yet.
bloc 08.04.19	They ruining Aleister Black though
DinosaurJones 08.04.19	They're still trying too hard with some of their stars, I think. Like, Becky got over organically, and she's still over, but the whole storyline with Rollins was not good. I read that she wasn't happy about that either. And they're trying too hard to get Rollins over now too, it's like they are desperate for people to cheer him. I think they tried to get Becky to give him the rub, since IMO I think she's more over than he is. They need to go back to letting people get over on their own merit rather than force feeding *coughREIGNScough*
Storm In A Teacup 08.04.19	honestly I'd rather see Seth go away than Shane... and I don't enjoy Shane.
Storm In A Teacup 08.04.19	I guess I should clarify that a lot of the main event scene in WWE right now is what I don't like. I'm enjoying almost everything else though!
bloc 08.04.19	The epic beatdown on Seth by Brock would be a perfect way to write Seth off tv for a while and maybe restart his character. Shame Summerslam is approaching and I would expect him to show up.
Storm In A Teacup 08.05.19	I have this eery feeling that we're going to get some kind of surprise that we don't expect....not just Goldberg vs Dolph Ziggler.... I'm having a weird spider sense that John Cena is about to get revenge for what Brock did to him at a previous Summer Slam...
bloc 08.05.19	I hope Ziggler kills em all. That promo he cut on the last Smackdown talking shit on all the legends and Miz was the best promo of the year. Otherwise, the only "surprise" I can see coming is Orton winning the title.
Storm In A Teacup 08.05.19	and now supposedly Daniel Bryan is the one who attacked Roman! We are about to get a huge grudge feud between Bryan and Reigns and it is probably the best move for both of their careers. I hope it lasts all the way to mania.
bloc 08.05.19	That could be cool, seems likely that it'll be him. I also think Orton may win because the cover for the new game doesn't have Kofi on it. Instead it's Lynch and Reigns.
Storm In A Teacup 08.05.19	I only think Orton will win because they're going to push a new face to win the WWE Championship. I can't remember who I was thinking it would be...lol If that's not the case though, Kofi is going to win.
Minushuman24 08.08.19	I just do not see Orton winning. They've got such a good story based in a real life conflict from the past.
Storm In A Teacup 08.12.19	well no one won. shit.
DinosaurJones 08.12.19	The Fiend tho
Storm In A Teacup 08.12.19	Seth Rollins unrealistically shoved down our throat tho
bloc 08.12.19	That Fiend match was not what I expected. It was actually competitive... Didn't watch the PPV live and kinda skimmed through it later on, seemed pretty uneventful overall. Only thing I was hoping for was Ziggler winning
Storm In A Teacup 08.13.19	Raw was much crazier
DinosaurJones 08.13.19	oh hey, Sasha is a heel now.
bloc 08.13.19	I will skim through Raw tonight
Storm In A Teacup 02.12.20	Soon I will be free...and you all will be saved from the deleter eaters
Storm In A Teacup 02.12.20	One day away from this being dead for 6 months. I'm ashamed of all of you.
bloc 02.12.20	Stopped watching all of WWE since Hell in a Cell last year. Only WWE thing I watched was the two Rumble matches this year
Storm In A Teacup 02.13.20	They were not bad
bloc 02.13.20	Yeah the men's one was really good
Storm In A Teacup 02.15.20	A few good rumbles this decade have swept away my bad expectations. I always expect a 4 out of 5 rumble ppv now
Storm In A Teacup 02.16.20	I'm not complaining but it will be really weird if we have another Mania with no Cena match.
Get Low 03.16.20	ONE OF A KIND HEY HEY HEY ONE OF A KIND HEY HEY HEY
bloc 03.16.20	That crowd-less episode of Smackdown was the first WWE weekly show I watched since October and it was actually quite refreshing
Minushuman24 03.16.20	Hard Agreed I'm gonna head down the block later on for a 3:16 celebration and airing of Raw tonight
bloc 03.16.20	Yeah I am tempted to watch Raw this week now to see if lightning strikes twice
DinosaurJones 03.16.20	Raw has actually been pretty okay recently. Smackdown has been garbage. NXT has gotten worse since it started airing on USA, but is still the best WWE has to offer, IMO. Honestly, I think AEW has been much better than WWE.
bloc 03.17.20	AEW is way better agreed. NXT is just boring now
Minushuman24 03.17.20	I think WWE has hit a low that is really taking me out of watching pro wrestling. I am very interested in Wrestlemania at the PC
bloc 03.17.20	Just saw that headline a few minutes ago and I'm amped. Man I hope they change it up and add the silly commentary at shit. That's what's gonna save the day.
Minushuman24 03.17.20	It really will. Somehow that added so much more excitement for the event. However I suppose it would make the matches drag much more, so I doubt there will be any "epics" outside maybe Edge's last man standing match with Orton
bloc 03.17.20	Another perk is that it might lead to a shorter show overall?
Minushuman24 03.17.20	I would gladly take that
DinosaurJones 03.18.20	I don't actually believe they're going to do WM without a crowd.
bloc 03.18.20	I'm actually impressed they made that decision. My first thought was that they'd delay it to the summer or something when things get safer, but then they run the risk of scheduling conflicts with all the special appearances.
Minushuman24 03.18.20	I'm starting to edge towards the rumours of them performing at Madison Square Garden
Storm In A Teacup 03.18.20	I think we can all agree that WWE is stupid so whatever happens it's turtles all the way down.
bloc 03.19.20	Hmm, Raw with no audience kinda sucked tbh. It lacked the charm that the Smackdown episode had. HHH and Cole made all the difference. Although Asuka was gold on both episodes lol. They need to have R-Truth cut a promo and act like there's an audience in the arena, that would be amazing.
Storm In A Teacup 03.19.20	Yes and it could turn out that R Truth has never looked at the crowd and has always just looked at the lights, so he wouldn't know any better. You could actually make a gimmick out of it.
Minushuman24 03.19.20	Raw did suck yeah. But that Austin segment was gold, as was the Edge promo for very different reasons.
bloc 03.19.20	Edge promo was fantastic for sure. I didn't like the Austin segment that much though. It would have gone over so much better with an audience. Since the arena was empty, they could have had Austin and KO have a stunner contest on Byron. KO is so freakin good on the mic he could glue the entire segment together. With the lack of audience, this is the perfect time to bring back the little Jimmy gimmck for R-Truth lol
Storm In A Teacup 04.06.20	Holy shit Randy and Edge was like 40 minutes long!!! Holy shit somehow that Bray Wyatt thing was perfect!!! (as long as Cena is gone forever or changed forever) Holy shit Karl Anderson, Luke Gallows, and AJ Styles have died in canon.
bloc 04.06.20	Randy/Edge was just way too long. But it was def hard hitting and I liked how they basically gave you a tour of the entire performance center lol Undertaker/AJ was one of the best matches I've ever seen
Minushuman24 04.06.20	Night two annihilated Night one. Rhea and Charlotte was class, though I /hate/ the outcome. Aleister Black won at WM so I'm happy The Woman's clusterfuck actually got me excited for Lacey, so that's impressive. Drew won the gold! In a fucking terrible garbage match, but he won so that's dope. Edge and Orton was long as fuck, but I didn't mind. It felt real, it didn't feel like a big choreographed, it was two dudes beating the shit out of each other to the point of exhaustion and you could feel the pain. Bray/Cena is my favorite "match" I've seen in a long time. It's everything I could have hoped for. It had the ridiculousness that made the Boneyard match awesome and Final deletion a classic piece, but there was actual depth within the story that simultaneously was thoughtful, intense, and hilarious. Avante-garde wrasslin' at it's peak.
bloc 04.06.20	I was surprised with how short the Cena/Bray match was actually. When it started at 10 pm, I thought ok this is gonna be a long one but the entire show ended at 10:30 which I guess is kinda nice. No need to Lesnar/Drew to be long at all either
Storm In A Teacup 04.06.20	The character work we got from many wrestlers was perfect. Looking at Bayley's character from this one show is insane compared to anything she had ever done before a year ago.
bloc 04.06.20	The trash talking by Sasha and Bayley was indeed very good. I am surprised Edge/Orton barely had any, I think it would have made the match much better. And after seeing this Undertaker match, I can see him doing that type of produced match once a year without anyone complaining. Imagine if Undertaker raised his fist at the end and the house catches fire and in the background you see Sting hunched over on the roof or some shit, people would lose their mind.
Storm In A Teacup 04.07.20	Randy should come back and try to give a serious face turn that no one will buy and then The Fiend gets revenge on Randy by deleting him just like John Cena.
MalleusMaleficarum 04.07.20	rob gronkowski holds a title and thats all you need to know about the wwe
bloc 04.07.20	Lol I saw that and didn't even bat an eye. Par for the course at this point
Minushuman24 04.07.20	Can't wait for Tyson Fury to take down Dre McIntyre
ExhaleTheLight 04.11.20	Been awhile since I’ve been on this thread lmao. The only thing I’ve only been looking forward to from WWE right now is how they handle Killer Kross, other than that I’ve only been watching AEW and some NJPW
Minushuman24 08.13.20	rip this thread
rufinthefury 08.14.20	AEW is the only thing I watch now outside of the big WWE PPVs like Rumble AEW just offers a superior show 9/10 times
Minushuman24 08.14.20	I've been watching like.... quizzlemania and some recaps and that's where I have been at. Last wrestling show I watched was WM
bloc 08.14.20	Same, AEW and Impact for me only
Minushuman24 08.14.20	I really should spend some time with AEW, I like what I've seen/heard about it. I just had a dislike for the Bucks that kept me away for too long.
Valzentia 08.14.20	Impact has been shitting on both WWE and AEW tbh
Minushuman24 08.14.20	I haven't watched Impact since Abyss got super powers from Hulk Hogan's hall of fame ring
bloc 08.15.20	Read that and lol'd
Storm In A Teacup 08.15.20	The Fiend, Randy Orton, and AEW
LunaticSoul 08.15.20	Impact had one good ppv lol AEW has been on a roll, most Dynamites this summer have been fun as hell. aside from Jericho this week
ExhaleTheLight 08.15.20	Waiting on that Omega heel turn
Get Low 08.15.20	Anyone remember my short lived "AEW General Discussion" list? Good times.
Storm In A Teacup 09.24.20	Oh that was you get low? lol, Retribution is the most Vince and the most WCW thing I have seen in awhile. maybe worse than a Vince and WCW thing.
bloc 09.24.20	Stopped watching WWE stuff, but I am keeping up with it via other means. I hear Retribution officially got contracts, which kinda nullifies their entire existence.
rufinthefury 10.10.20	I'm glad Mustafa Ali is getting a spotlight again, but this Retribution shit is just absolute trash
bloc 10.10.20	I heard he was the leader and had to do a double take. Man's way too talented to not be on TV so I guess this is something. Wonder if he has a goofy codename like the rest of em
Minushuman24 12.27.20	rip brodie lee, one of my favorite workers.
SlothcoreSam 12.27.20	WTF! 2020, you CUNT!
LunaticSoul 12.27.20	what a fucking year guys. It all seemed so abrupt when they took the title off of him, who would have thought though. RIP. Really a sad day for the entire business
Pheromone 12.27.20	awful news - woke up at 4am and saw it. favourite big man in wrestling easily
anat 12.27.20	i saw cena's instagram post and just thought he was up to his old tricks and hinting about a move to AEW or something, and it wasn't for another like 10 mins that i saw the news. what a huge and sudden loss. always thought he should have been in the wyatt/orton WM match
Minushuman24 12.28.20	I was at that smackdown where he almost won the battle royale to face Bray. AJ was hot at the time, but the entire fucking place was unglued for Brodie. It is probably the biggest missed opportunity in the last few years.
rufinthefury 01.06.21	Huge RIP to Brodie Lee. AEW's memorial show was beyond emotional
Storm In A Teacup 03.17.21	RIP Brodie
Storm In A Teacup 03.17.21	Wrestlemania Season 2021 ~ !!! Roman Reigns vs Edge vs Daniel Bryan heck yeah! Lashely vs Drew I hope Lashley wins so glad he's a top champion and want him to stay there and get to beat up Lesnar!! Omas and AJ Styles vs The New Day Omas first match I have low expectations but i think it will be something good Randy Orton Vs Bray Wyatt (I have two requirements for this match, Bray has been gone so long he better be in shape and possibly even have abs, also if this is a firefly funhouse match then Cena has to return and be involved somehow. Orton facing his wwe career like cena did would necessitate cena's involvement or at least mention, maybe cena will be on brays side or maybe orton will free cena? high expectations for this storyline and i imagine a lot of people have high expectations.
MO 03.17.21	just rewatched the '92 Royal rumble and holy fuck wrestling used to be so fun
Storm In A Teacup 03.17.21	is that the one with Flair!?
MO 03.17.21	You know it
Storm In A Teacup 03.17.21	Oh man. I wanna watch that
MO 03.17.21	Dude so dope. I mean what a fucking final 4, psycho Sid, flair, macho man and Hogan can't get much better honestly. Besides Shawn Michaels winning it all a couple year later
bloc 03.17.21	92 Rumble is one of the best
Get Low 03.17.21	92 Rumble was retarded "IT'S NOT FAIR TO FLAIR" the commentators make that shit unbearable.
AlexKzillion 03.17.21	I hope it's just edge vs. roman with no bryan. Nothing against bryan but edge has been too great for too long to never get a true mania main event. They had to throw Big Show into his Cena feud for 25. Injury derailed the build up to his match against Jericho at 26. He fucking opened the show as champion at 27. Last year ruined by the pandemic. Give Edge his moment you cowards! (And yes I totally realize he just won the rumble from 1, but I don't care. Edge mark 4 life br0!)
bloc 03.18.21	They will probably add Bryan only so he can eat the pin. No matter who wins the title between Edge and Roman, they'd want both looking strong.
Storm In A Teacup 03.18.21	yeah it seems inevitable especially since this is confirmed to be Daniel Bryans last run and he will be retired sometime between Smackdown after Mania and before the next Mania. I bet Vince, Roman, and Edge all view Daniel Bryan with the highest of respect and figure he has earned this spot with them.
AlexKzillion 03.22.21	Alright yeah after last night I'll agree with that. Roman/Bryan could've been it's own wrestlemania feud and it'd suck to waste that if this really is going to be it for him. Also, as sad as it is that we won't see an Edge/Christian reunion, I'm excited to see Christian compete in not-WWE again where he's treated like the elite talent he is.
Storm In A Teacup 03.22.21	i believe there were zero title changes last night lol weird
Storm In A Teacup 03.27.21	I'm hopeful during the firefly funhouse match Randy will open a door and find John Cena
AlexKzillion 03.27.21	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smEJ3Fr_Suo&ab_channel=partsFUNknown Storm check this vid^^. Also cool to see Edge being a heel again (and for good reason kayfabe-wise). In a year where nearly the entire mania card is looking kinda underwhelming from a buildup perspective, I'm supremely hyped for this triple threat.
Storm In A Teacup 03.28.21	hah yeah that's similar to what i want to see i suppose. I'd be fine with a 30 minute firefly funhouse match and that's all i care about. and please do it without the hokier stuff that Alexa does lol, just have her be straight up evil
rufinthefury 04.06.21	Mark Henry said he has one match left in him and he wants it to be WALTER. Now that would be amazing
Storm In A Teacup 04.07.21	i don't even care who he would wrestle it would be cool to see him in a match one more time, as long as it's not Randy Orton making him look foolish again.
rufinthefury 04.17.21	RIP to all the talent that got cut. Just like last year. Cannot believe they dropped both Billie and Peyton
AlexKzillion 04.18.21	Cutting Samoa Joe sucked but signing Pat McAfee makes up for it (Imagine typing that five years ago)
Storm In A Teacup 04.19.21	He prolly wanted to wrestle and they prolly remembered all of his start stop pushes that stop because of injury.
AlexKzillion 04.19.21	Yeah they were prob saving him from himself I was always more of a TNA kid growing up and I remember him being a monster back then. Shame things haven't worked out for him as well as they have with AJ in WWE.
bloc 04.19.21	OHHH WENDYYYYY! Man I will never forget that line from his AJ feud lol. Of all the people released, he should be the one AEW jumps on. He has some of the best mic skills in the game. IIconics should also get picked up asap.
Storm In A Teacup 04.20.21	Iconics should join The Pinnacle. Samoa Joe should go to AEW and squash Lame as hell Miro/Rusev since he already jobs to Orange Cassidy and Best Friends. 🙄
Storm In A Teacup 04.20.21	Oh! Joe should beat the hell out of Miro then just go to the announce desk to say he’s a new announcer and then beat up Tony Schavone and sit in his chair. That way an announcer has squashed Miro. I know Tony Khan has been doing his best to make Miro a loser so surely he would like this idea.
AlexKzillion 04.20.21	Yeah Miro's booking is bullshit haha. Never made any sense why he would be Kip's friend.
Storm In A Teacup 04.23.21	I can’t believe it hardly but WWE has fired Mark Carrano for mistreating employees and they’ve fired the head of public relations. Might be a sign of real change.
Storm In A Teacup 04.23.21	Btw for those that may find it interesting Matt Riddle did not forget his line and that segment wasn’t live, however he did choose for it to go that way and thought it would be scrapped but Vince thought it was hilarious and fit his character so they used it. He was supposed to ask Asuka if Japanese if scooters are big in Japan even tho Japanese are so small and he didn’t want to say something like that.
rufinthefury 04.23.21	Yall saw how dirty they did Mickie James with the trashbag? WWE a cold company lol.
Storm In A Teacup 04.23.21	That’s why Mark Carrano was fired today
Storm In A Teacup 04.23.21	And Maria Kanelis tweeted he did the same thing to her last year.
Storm In A Teacup 04.23.21	And with the head of public relations being fired and Triple H speaking up and apologizing maybe WWE is going to start being better
Storm In A Teacup 04.23.21	Gail Kim also says they did the same thing to her 15ish years ago and asks if it was him back then too
rufinthefury 04.23.21	I'm pretty sure it's just WWE's shitty company culture. Mark Carrano was probably a problem, but he's also a fall guy.
Storm In A Teacup 04.23.21	Ya
rufinthefury 04.23.21	ye Jillian Hall sent out a tweet saying it happened to her back in the day and they told her they fired the person responsible at the time and it was a woman. So clearly the problem never got solved lol
AlexKzillion 04.26.21	https://twitter.com/aew/status/1386515516290998276?s=21 So uhhhhh... Kenny Omega is now AEW champion AND the Impact universal champion? That's cool
AlexKzillion 04.26.21	The AEW/Impact partnership makes zero sense to me. Omega defended the AEW belt on an Impact ppv and they never mentioned it once on these last couple Dynamites. Like you'd think that'd be a pretty big deal?????? Maybe???
Storm In A Teacup 04.26.21	They ended the match early and canceled Omegas promo after. Rich Swann suffered a really bad concussion.
DinosaurJones 05.05.21	I don't much care for Omega. That is all.
AlexKzillion 05.05.21	I like Omega's character work, but in ring he can be a bit nauseating at times with the finisher spamming/kicking out of damn near everything. (Should also preface this by saying I've never seen a non-AEW Omega match).
Storm In A Teacup 05.05.21	I want to dislike Omega simply because Dave Meltzer is Fox News.
Minushuman24 05.05.21	bryan...... danielson......
DinosaurJones 05.07.21	I was watching AEW pretty regularly for awhile, but now I'm back to just reading recaps for everything. I didn't even watch all of WM.
bloc 05.07.21	I just follow NoDQ for the news and listen to podcasts for some hilarity and that's enough for me. I watch zero wrestling at this point.
rufinthefury 05.09.21	AEW is the only decent wrestling show on a week to week basis these days. Raw has been dead for years, Smackdown has a pulse but it's faint, NXT went from the golden boy to a shell of itself, Impact has no production value, CMLL is just shit, even NJPW is having some very shaky booking as of late. NWA Powerr is a decent watch but it suffers from the fact that no one else watches it and anytime they go somewhere else you know that stuff gets ignored. It's no cult classic like Lucha Underground
Storm In A Teacup 05.09.21	Roman Reigns is better than any wrestling show right now. NXT is 2nd to him. Not even worth watching AEW lately except one or two YouTube videos.
AlexKzillion 05.09.21	^^yep sounds about right. I don't watch Smackdown regularly but I'll typically watch all the Reigns-related clips on youtube. Don't watch NXT but their wrestlers are quality. I've watched AEW regularly since December, and even bought the last ppv, and idk I'm kinda at my wits end with it. Their booking isn't bad per se, but it's kinda irritating. How many times is old ass Sting gonna brood around with a bat and not do anything while the heels shit their pants? How many times are the heels gonna interrupt someone else's promo like three words in? How many debates/parleys/cookouts is Jericho gonna do? How many surprise rollup wins is Darby Allen gonna get? How many times do they over promise and under deliver (exploding ring, Jericho gets thrown off the cage into a massive crash cushion)? Also feel like they blade waaayyy too often to the point it doesn't mean anything anymore.
AlexKzillion 05.09.21	With that being said, I still watch cause I love everything Death Triangle does, I love heel Kenny and Don Callis, I love Britt Baker, Taz is still hilarious, Moxley, Kingston, MJF... a lot of great people just a lot of bullshit that goes along with it.
bloc 05.09.21	Ever since I heard Dario Queto is back I kinda want to start watching MLW lol. He's one of my favourite wrestling characters ever.
Storm In A Teacup 05.09.21	Agree with all that Alex
rufinthefury 05.10.21	same bloc. Dario Queto is my fav authority figure character ever next to og Vince back in the day.
rufinthefury 05.10.21	As far as The E vs The W, I just don't care about WWE anymore. Been burned way too many times, they just straight up don't know what fans want. Even in the past few months they managed to destroy Hurt Business for no reason when they were peak over. And knowing how most NXT talent gets treated on call up to the main roster, there's just no interest for me outside of the VERY few exceptions. For every Bianca Belair and Rhea Rhipley I see far more Liv Morgans and Ruby Riotts. For every Roman Reigns (now at least) theres a Dean Ambrose who got shafted. There's no point in getting invested tbh
Storm In A Teacup 07.07.21	welp, jimmy uso went and got another dui after both usos were told they were on their last chance in the company with duis a year or two ago. just in time for his big push. curious if they will follow through or do something different...tbh jey is the better uso by quite a bit in terms of acting and overall character development, but would still be sad to see jimmy go
AlexKzillion 07.07.21	Literally could not be worse timing Reigns and the Usos are the best thing wwe has going rn, would be a shame if this ruined any plans they had with them going forward
SlothcoreSam 07.07.21	https://www.instagram.com/tv/CRB9ln2hyUu/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link This vignette is a million times better than any on wwe
Storm In A Teacup 07.07.21	I would disagree. As far as I'm concerned Tommy End/Aleister Black is not creative or interesting. He's a hop and a step away from delusional except no one cares enough to really notice.
Storm In A Teacup 07.07.21	I was super excited during his first NXT run and start of main roster but it became clear fairly quick that they were not smart enough to use him as the awesome character they/he set him up to be. And with that it just became more and more boring stuff.
rufinthefury 07.09.21	yeah, WWE main roster wasn't smart enough to use him. On his own at AEW he'll be back on track.
Storm In A Teacup 07.11.21	okay his debut at aew was pretty damn cool. alas it is very saddening to see Bayley tear her acl :(
SlothcoreSam 07.13.21	For those who want to check an 80s 90s themed wrestling punk release, check the new album by The VonErichs, titled First Blood Match. https://momsbasementrecords.bandcamp.com/album/vonerichs-first-blood-match
AlexKzillion 07.14.21	His debut was cool but terribly botched by the commentary "OMG ITS TOMMY END, WAIT NO THATS NOT TOMMY END... THATS... THATS GOTTA BE MALAKAI BLACK"
Storm In A Teacup 07.14.21	yeah it was a bad botch. whatever the announcers name with the mask on really ought to shut the fuck up. he's fucking awful. he also tried talking about how he wrestled Malakai Black 15 years ago...which probably no one saw and there's not even tape of, but regardless, how is that relevant to the commentary? it's not.
AlexKzillion 07.14.21	Yeah dude sucks on dynamite but I really like his pairing with Taz on dark, mostly cause Taz is amazing
AlexKzillion 07.22.21	Bryan Danielson to AEW??? CM Punk too potentially???
Storm In A Teacup 07.22.21	yeah apparently the Daniel Bryan thing is real, but Punk just a rumor? not sure. both big if true =)
Storm In A Teacup 07.24.21	I really hope at Summerslam Lashley beats Golberg and then Kofi and Xavier come out to attack Lashley and then Big E comes out and wins the Raw Championship.
ExhaleTheLight 08.05.21	Forgot about this thread. CM PUNK is definitely headed to AEW they teased it so many times. AEW is really starting to become a mainstay company. Also Malakai Black rules.
bloc 08.05.21	If they don't honor that rumour, the crowd reaction in Chicago will be quite a sight lol. Plus do we even know if CM Punk is coming to AEW to wrestle? Could be a totally different position.
JeetJeet 08.05.21	Will anyone even care about Punk being in AEW if he's not wrestling? Imagine him coming back just to sit at a desk and play the GM role or something. Nobody wants that
JeetJeet 08.05.21	Regardless tho this is probably the first time in a long time where I've been paying attention to wrestling. This could be huge if they get Daniels and Punk.
bloc 08.05.21	Anyone remember not too long ago they had CM Punk be a guest on that WWE morning show or whatever and people were creaming their pants thinking he was back in wrestling. He never showed up again after that lol. I stopped watching all wrestling but I still enjoy the podcasts and keeping up with the news. Curious to see what happens with this.
LunaticSoul 08.05.21	Leave Excalibur alone, but yeah he kinda has to script better his big debuts They called him Tommy End / Malakai Black because his character has supposedly a split personality. malakai is possessing tommy or shit like that Also AMENRA ripped, was watching on my big tv with my big dolby and I marked the fuck out
Storm In A Teacup 08.05.21	“Leave Excalibur alone” Read as “Shit on Excalibur” They need to send Excalibur on a 3 month vacation so their most important debuts in history don’t get fucked up, also so the matches can be properly called instead of hearing verbal masturbation.
veninblazer 08.05.21	Malakai Black destroying Cody was based.
BallsToTheWall 08.05.21	Black walking out to Amenra was also based.
BallsToTheWall 08.05.21	Looks like Viking Shao Khan.
LunaticSoul 08.06.21	I just rewatched Aleister Black´s RAW debut and between Cole calling him moody and them giving him a mic to cut a lame six words promo against Elias of all people. . . damn that was terrible lol
LunaticSoul 08.06.21	Anyway I personally like Excalibur because I like his voice and he´s incredibly knowledgeable about wrasslin´. Hearing Elevation without him and hearing Tony not calling one fucking move right makes me miss Excalibur all day all night Also Excalibur and Taz on Dark are comedy gold, thanks botchamania But I also like Chris Charlton, so what the fuck do I know about commentators lol
Storm In A Teacup 08.06.21	Knowledgeable? Or making up words as he goes?
AlexKzillion 08.06.21	I think he's knowledgeable, but like so much so he comes off as really nerdy and kinda alienating I guess? Like storm said, I have no idea what he's saying half the time haha... and the mask doesn't help. Taz is a great foil for him... Tony and JR though? Not so much.
AlexKzillion 08.06.21	DARBY GOING FOR THE TU PAE SUICINA like bruh just call it a fucking suicide dive for christ sake
Storm In A Teacup 08.06.21	Yeah i agree with all that alex lol. Taz has always been commentary gold. Taz! Yes! My balls! I sawr! You shoulda worn a cup!
Storm In A Teacup 08.06.21	Also i would love a month of wrestling with zero suicide dives. Please. Fucking please.
Storm In A Teacup 08.06.21	I honestly thought suicide dives became oversaturated a year ago and they were in every match of every promotion and it hasn't stopped aince then. If i were a booker i would be begging and pleading for just a little break. Please.
AlexKzillion 08.06.21	Yeah just kills the significance of the move. Like when Taker dove all the way out to the ramp at HBK at wrestlemania..... that was some serious shit. Now, especially in AEW, it's like a quota that every wrestler in the match needs to hit... and most of them look really shitty. Even got guys like Moxley and Kingston doing them like nobody wants to fucking see that
Storm In A Teacup 08.21.21	Today could be the start of the downfall of WWE?
rufinthefury 08.31.21	I got to see CM Punk debut live, going to Dynamite this week, and I expect to see Bryan Danielson debut on Sunday evening. Fucking amazing time to be wrestling fan
LunaticSoul 08.31.21	I kinda hate you rufin ngl, this month I wish I were a Chicagoan.
rufinthefury 09.01.21	They got my ass marked down as a mark for sure lmao. But yeah, the Midwest (especially Chicago) is AEW territory now, pretty firmly. Tonight will be the first wrestling show ever held at the NOW Arena, I'd never even heard of it before, so it'll be neat to check it out before All Out on Sunday.
MalleusMaleficarum 11.22.21	how is vince alive
Storm In A Teacup 11.23.21	I thought it was cool how the last time he did any kind of story was feuding with Kofi and New Day and it was a good leftover taste that was absolutely ruined after yesterday and today.
Storm In A Teacup 11.23.21	If Austin Theory wins the title tonight that would be the most amazing thing WWE did all year.
rufinthefury 11.23.21	yall see Seth get attacked by that fan?
Storm In A Teacup 11.23.21	Yeah that was the craziest one since Bret Hart.
veninblazer 11.23.21	i heard he got tackled. what NFL wannabe jumped the barricade?
bloc 11.23.21	That shit was nuts. For a sec I thought it was a work.
Storm In A Teacup 11.23.21	Was it seen on the live broadcast?
bloc 11.23.21	I think it was for a split second and then they cut to Balor in the ring. They usually cut away from these things so fast you don't know it's happening, which makes me think even some of the crew thought it was a work lol
bloc 11.23.21	https://youtu.be/zqO_AKTkx9w Some fan footage of the aftermath
combustion07 01.18.22	I quit watching WWE ages ago. I want to say it was either in 2006 or 2007. On Smackdown Bobby Lashley had just flipped a car over in a backstage match and on Raw Lita and Edge were doing the "sex on live tv" bit. I thought it was getting a little too corny at the time so I tuned out. However I did just get WWE 2k19 on Xbox and I've been enjoying playing it lately. Is 2k20 worth getting? The reviews seemed terrible all around so I just went with 19 for now. Undertaker was my dude back when I watched m///
Storm In A Teacup 01.18.22	That one on Nintendo 64 was fucking awesome.
combustion07 01.18.22	I played the games heavily from the N64 days all the way up until Smackdown vs Raw 2006. Here Comes the Pain was my favorite by a long shot. It's too bad they haven't topped that one honestly. I can't even imagine how many hours I put into that game with friends back in the day lol. The old school wcw games were pretty dope also. I dig 2k19 so far but man gameplay has went downhill since those old school ones. Wish they'd bring it back to basics and drop another on in the Here Comes the Pain style
DinosaurJones 01.25.22	HCtP >>> All. Don't @ me. Actually, SDvRaw '06 was pretty dope as well. I never played any of the Nintendo ones because I never had a Nintendo system past the SNES.
rufinthefury 01.30.22	Best PPV of the year tonight wooo
rufinthefury 01.30.22	Wow, that was not very good!
Storm In A Teacup 01.30.22	*premium live event
Storm In A Teacup 01.30.22	So happy Lashley beat Lesnar
rufinthefury 01.30.22	Lashley winning, all the Roman story stuff, and the Women's Rumble were the highlights and the rest just happened
Storm In A Teacup 01.30.22	It was frustrating early in the women’s rumble seeing so many consecutively mistimed spots, but it was still good in the middle. Start and end I can do without.
Storm In A Teacup 01.30.22	I’m ready for a Bayley comeback.
LunaticSoul 01.31.22	women rumble was horribly average, I don´t know what you saw. men´s rumble was useless/frustrating. when Brock entered I was like "oh fucking WWE lol"
rufinthefury 01.31.22	highlight just means best moment on the show, doesnt mean it was actually any good. but relatively speaking, the women's rumble was one of the best things that happened on this premium live event. because it was nothing but surprise pops and at least thats better than jobbers.
DinosaurJones 02.09.22	Lita looks amazing for 46
rufinthefury 06.15.22	Necroing this thread cuz big news https://www.wsj.com/articles/wwe-board-probes-secret-3-million-hush-pact-by-ceo-vince-mcmahon-sources-say-11655322722 Reddit link to get past the paywall https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCircle/comments/vd39f4/wsj_wwe_board_probes_secret_3_million_hush_pact/ichw25g/
DinosaurJones 07.03.22	Vince is done. He's old. He doesn't have to care anymore. Hooray for Liv Morgan!
rufinthefury 07.03.22	Loved Liv winning. Theory entering the MITB match after he lost his belt was a dead giveaway for the men's match. Not a bad show overall.
SlothcoreSam 07.23.22	Vincent has retired!
Storm In A Teacup 07.23.22	Pro wrestling has died this year after slowly dying for years before AEW gave the genre one last good run. RIP
PunkerBlast 07.23.22	It's all up to Sami Zayn to save us! I honestly thought Vince was still going to be running creative even if he retired but it sounds like he may actually be entirely done. I still find it hard to believe he won't be involved in decisions somehow.
Storm In A Teacup 07.23.22	I hope Austin Theory makes it through the foster care system with little trauma.
rufinthefury 07.23.22	Vince is over party!
Storm In A Teacup 07.23.22	Now he just … owns the company…🤣🤣🤣
Storm In A Teacup 07.23.22	This is so crazy. It looks like Stephanie and Triple H have won? Wtf is gonna be in charge of creative? They can’t let Bruce, he is just … not good at creative.
DinosaurJones 07.24.22	Goodbye, Vince. I wonder if we're going to see any big changes, or even any gradual changes. Apparently WWE is going TV-14 again.
Storm In A Teacup 07.24.22	That tv 14 thing I think is fake rumor
PunkerBlast 07.27.22	Last I heard the TV-14 was going to happen but the news come out too soon, and wasn't planned till after Summerslam. My mind is a little hazy on that but the news of the change came out too early I know. Coulda been untrue all along. Apparently HHH is the head of creative now. I still find it very hard to believe Vince won't be involved in some way off camera, but shit maybe that day finally did come. He did give himself a farewell tour before he retired anyway.
SlothcoreSam 07.27.22	TV-14 will make it cheesy as fuck. A few extra cringey swear words during promos, and maybe some edgier story lines. I hope we don't see any sexualization of characters, now that Vince has gone, like was the case in the attitude era. And as for more violence, I can't see that really happening either with all the studies coming out. Wrestling entertainment is dead, they need to bring back old school wrestling somehow.
PunkerBlast 07.27.22	Well there won't be bra and pantie matches anymore either which to be fair don't a lot of the female wrestlers wear very seductive ring attire and wrestle better. I might be the only person here now I watch wrestling b/c I like the entertainment and the stories and yea. Not even mentioning AEW which is good too. Darby Allin is my jam!!!!!!!! I don't think TV-14 would make WWE better either in a pinch. Would be like three more shit words and well.......I don't think Vince buckled under the pressure per se. He came out and did flaunt it.
rufinthefury 07.28.22	"I hope we don't see any sexualization of characters, now that Vince has gone, like was the case in the attitude era." Based on NXT 2.0, expect it lol
rufinthefury 08.01.22	Summerslam was actually awesome. It was so good that I'm fucking watching Raw tonight for the first time in 5 years. This new group of Bayley, Io (now Iyo ig), and Dakota has the potential to be soooo good. I'm actually excited now that Vince is decidedly out of the picture, I'm here for the Triple H show.
Storm In A Teacup 08.01.22	Should be dope af
PunkerBlast 08.04.22	I didn't see RAW but popular opinion did seem like it wasn't too hot after what was a surprisingly good Summerslam. I wish I saw Summerslam now on paper there weren't tons of matches I felt like I wanted to see, but without rambling too long the main event will be remembered forever.
rufinthefury 08.04.22	Opposite. Raw was great, did an enormous rating and got going multiple new stories. Greater emphasis on the US and IC belt too, Ciampa got a push, there was a half hour more in-ring time than just a few weeks back, the women are all stars, etc. It was really good. The CROWD wasnt hot, maybe thats what you heard? The reception to the show at large was very hot though, people are hyped more than ever.
combustion07 08.04.22	Many moons ago my blackened07 account got the permaban for some WWE discussion! Another user and I were doing a play by play of a Monday Night Raw episode in real time in a Trivium thread and that was a big no no apparently lol. I stopped following wrestling back in probably 2007 or 2008. Don't remember the exact time but I recall on Raw the "sex on live tv!" With Lita and Edge was being hyped up and on Smackdown the last episode I saw featured Bobby Lashley flipping a car. I thought it was getting too corny at that point and tuned out and never looked back. That said I wouldn't mind going back and checking out some old ECW, WCW and WWF stuff. For me that era was always my favorite. Always got a kick out of JCW as well. That was the Psychopathic Records wrestling league. The first time I saw boobs was the first JCW tape lol
PunkerBlast 08.04.22	@rufinthefury you are probably right. People pay way too much attention to crowd reactions. It starts to get real annoying to me. It's like this one guy said oh people weren't reacting to Logan Paul (and then someone who was there was saying ppl were getting into him). I know Logan Paul is a divisive character, but still using him in that moment. I mean sure the crowd making the right noise and getting into things helps but I think a match can still be awesome even if the crowd for some reason or other wasn't giving the desired reaction.
PunkerBlast 08.04.22	@combustion07. I stopped watching for a decade or so in the 2000s. But I got into it somewhat again as a joke with a irl friend and then I got really into it again and then I sorta didn't watch stuff much anymore but I like to follow the storylines. Short story. I never saw the live sex celebration that was probably undercovers :P But eh it's just fun athletic theater. I fell off following AEW entirely for awhile. But yeah I rambled enough here.
Storm In A Teacup 08.04.22	I feel the same as rufinthefury right now, who is someone I don't share the same perspective with often, though I think we both can equally enjoy and care about wrestling, we do it differently. This is the ultimate time to give care, respect, and patience to WWE. I haven't and most of us haven't seen the type of change we are about to see. You could say that about the last 5 years too. But now is the time more than ever to just enjoy, have patience, and see what happens week to week without quick judgment.
rufinthefury 08.04.22	@PunkerBlast a lot of people are just plain wrong about crowd reactions too. Like if someone told you Logan Paul wasn't getting a reaction they're just straight up lying. Crowd reactions are super important still and I do listen in for them, that's what first drew me to wrestling actually, but people are just plain bad at picking out who gets good reactions and who doesn't. it's weird man. @Storm yeah totally with ya, I'm giving WWE a grace atm. I loved Summerslam, I was able to cruise through 3 hours of Raw without even noticing, so net up it's time to give Smackdown a shot. Smackdown was always better than Raw back when I was watching (2016/2017) so I'm interested to see what they've got goin on now.
rufinthefury 08.06.22	watching Smackdown for the first time in years. Roman is here which I'm told is unusual. Love to hear Michael Cole and Pat on commentary together, theyre mad entertaining. Like Taz and Ex for WWE.
Storm In A Teacup 08.06.22	Poor Liv.
PunkerBlast 08.06.22	One of the last times Liv was in the ring with Shayna in a serious spot it didn't go well. I remember watching the Elimination Chamber live and poor Liv just got brutalized by Shayna. Then Shayna went on to uhhh be in a tag team eventually. I didn't really need some female Brock Lesnar at the time (It's funny how Cowboy Brock just kicks ass though) but yeah that never happened for her. At least not yet. Pat is really good on commentary, Cole has been better without McMahon micromanaging every he says obviously. I can imagine how beyond frustrating that'd be to deal with.
Storm In A Teacup 08.07.22	Becky told Liv a few months ago in a promo that if she ever won the fans who believe in her would find a reason to stop believing in her
PunkerBlast 08.07.22	Becky got a gift from I think a movie and with Shawn Micheals. He encouraged her and that "Man" thing. It was surprising how big Becky got an yea. No one wanted to boo her so she just became a happening heel for a bit. If you watched and care about this shit they tried to make ppl boo Becky over Charlotte and it is was imposible.
Gleam 08.07.22	Did not know Sputnik had so many people on it who are so heavily into WWE. Kudos to all of you!
Storm In A Teacup 08.07.22	Lmao I just realized we didn’t even talk about wrestlemania last year
Storm In A Teacup 08.07.22	Current commentator rankings 1. Pat McAfee 2. Taz 3. Michael Cole 4. The gum on my shoe 5. Excalibur 6. Tony Shiavone 7. Covid 8. Chris Jericho
rufinthefury 08.07.22	I had the hilarious idea pop into my head of Cody coming back fully healed backstage like "I'm ready for my title shot!" only for Triple H to let him know that that spot belongs to Karrion Kross you thronebreaking piece of shit but fr Cody better take those belts from Roman. At least one. No one else before King Cody
Storm In A Teacup 08.13.22	That Hit Row music hitting was fucking awesome, hell yeah!
DinosaurJones 08.14.22	Looks like some of Vince's pet projects are getting pushed to the sidelines. Omos, Lacey Evans... can't really push Theory to the sidelines, but meh...
rufinthefury 09.04.22	Clash at the Castle was awesome. B+ ppv, not a bad match on there. Sheamus vs GUNTHER stole the whole fucking show, but Riddle v Rollins was close 2nd.
AlexKzillion 09.04.22	Yepp no way I was missing Sheamus vs Gunther that shit fucking CHOPPED Then I kinda checked out until the main event... may go back and watch Rollins and Riddle later
DinosaurJones 09.25.22	Sami & the Bloodline is the absolute best story going right now. Everyone is playing their part brilliantly. ESPECIALLY Sami and Jey.
rufinthefury 10.06.22	Huge RIP to Sara Lee. Unbelievable. 30 years old only.
rufinthefury 10.09.22	That Bray entrance was so fucking great
DinosaurJones 10.11.22	There's really a lot to like about WWE right now.
AlexKzillion 10.11.22	yeah wwe def on a hot streak rn
DinosaurJones 10.13.22	What I'm really trying to figure out is who's going to come out of this Bloodline story as the face. It's not gonna be Roman, he doesn't want to turn face, and he has the clout to have the final say. So it pretty much comes down to Jey or Sami. Logic dictates it'll be Sami when he eventually gets a beatdown from the Bloodline (then eventually teams up with KO and they win the tag titles from the Usos) But it could be a big swerve if they have Jey turn face as a renegade and bring him back to "Main Event" Jey Uso.
rufinthefury 10.14.22	It's gonna be Sami
DinosaurJones 10.15.22	I wasn't really huge on Liv as champion, but boy, I just don't like Rousey.
DinosaurJones 11.27.22	Yo, idk who the ring announcer is at Survivor Series, but she suuuuucks
rufinthefury 11.27.22	I really enjoyed Clash at the Castle so I was kinda looking forward to Survivor Series/Wargames but ngl I turned it off right before the Ronda v Shotzi match with the intention of coming back for the main event and instead totally forgot lol. Wargames matches in NXT were super fun, but for whatever reason the ones recently on AEW and now main roster WWE haven't done much for me. Idk why I did tune in after it was done just to see the end of the Bloodline stuff and it was alright. I'm not nearly as invested as everyone else is, I'm kinda waiting for them to pull the trigger on SOMETHING to happen sooner than later Bright spot was the ring announcer girl, that girl sounds amazing. definitely gave Bianca and Rhea a ton of sauce on their intros lmao
DinosaurJones 11.28.22	I thought it was decent. I think the concept is just getting overused, just like how they turned HIAC into its own PPV, which is being done away with, thank goodness. Wargames need to be used sparingly, just like all other match types. When there's too many of them, they cease to be special.
SlothcoreSam 11.29.22	https://youtu.be/p68w3BESrEA This old, but hilarious
DinosaurJones 12.04.22	There's a rumor floating around that the Rock might win the Rumble. This is completely unnecessary, and I hope it isn't true.
Storm In A Teacup 01.20.23	This thread should be revived. Rumble and mania season are here, wwe has been amazing as far as TV content, the best raw in years was about two or three weeks ago that featured an hour long 5 tag team elimination main event. All that being said, I think I hate 2 night wrestlemanias. Why? Because all I want for Mania is a fatal 5 way between Cody vs Seth vs KO vs Roman vs Rock
rufinthefury 01.30.23	Royal Rumble was fucking AWESOME minus the Bray Wyatt match. Man that was a dope ass PLE
Storm In A Teacup 01.30.23	Royal Rumble did not feel very ucey at the end. I am worried Roman has betrayed the Bloodline and soon Sami and Jey Uso will be the leaders.
rufinthefury 01.30.23	I can't remember the last time the roster looked this fucking good in WWE. It's so stacked right now and the main event storyline in particular is probably in the best shape it's been in since Daniel Bryan at least, it might even be better than that. Things are strangely good for WWE despite all the Vince bs. Love to see it even if I only watch the PPVs
Storm In A Teacup 01.31.23	Looking forward to Charlotte vs Rhea and Dom vs Rey at mania
Storm In A Teacup 01.31.23	Daniel Bryan wasn’t anywhere near this good of a story except maybe when he was Captain Planet.
DinosaurJones 01.31.23	It's crazy now that Cody has won the Rumble, and I hate it. It's not that he doesn't deserve it. But the Bloodline story is so great that he feels like an outlier. We should be having Zayn vs. Roman, and also Jey vs. Roman again. Run it back! Cody doesn't need to be in this story.
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.23	Yeah I agree but they will deliver still I think.
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.23	I like the idea tho of Roman going crazy and saying since elimination chamber is gonna be in the ring anyway they should all go in there and force Jey to choose a side. Have KO, Sami, Roman, Jey, Jimmy, Solo all 6 be in the chamber. Idk not a great idea but whatever,
DinosaurJones 02.07.23	Roman's nuclear heat is going to continue when he beats Sami in Montreal, of all places.
rufinthefury 02.20.23	Elimination Chamber was really good. I have not heard a crowd that loud since Clash At the Castle and honestly this crowd might have been louder. Absolutely insane loud all night long and the main event in particular was actually nuclear. Those 2 dudes stared at each other for 5 minutes and the crowd was going APESHIT. Cannot express how much I enjoyed that. Only thing I didn't care for was Bobby v Brock with it's RAW worthy ending, but it does make sense as a story beat. I just don't like it on PPV. BTW Rhea and Beth have amazing chemistry. I LOVED that mix tag match which I was not expecting too at all as I did not grow up with Edge and haven't been that impressed by him so far tbh. But man that match was good
Storm In A Teacup 04.03.23	What the hell am I watching. Shane McMahon just blew his quad at wrestlemania lmao
AlexKzillion 04.03.23	bruh are you fucking kidding me
Storm In A Teacup 04.03.23	No. 30 seconds into his match with the Miz
Storm In A Teacup 04.03.23	Night 2 was much different than night 1
rufinthefury 04.03.23	Unfuckingbelievable
Storm In A Teacup 04.03.23	Night 1 between a 4.2 and 4.7 Night 2 between a 2.0 and 2.5
Storm In A Teacup 04.03.23	I want to give tonight a 2.5 but it's not an average wrestlemania night. More so a poor one.
AlexKzillion 04.03.23	wwe being sold to endeavor (aka ufc) makes roman retaining make a lot more sense in the moment i thought "okay wtf this sucks ass but they've earned my trust at this point" but now it looks like they kept the belts on roman not even because of storyline reasons but because of the sale... which SERIOUSLY fucking sucks
Storm In A Teacup 04.03.23	I was actually thinking that same thing before bed. I think Cody wins in next couple months.
Storm In A Teacup 04.03.23	Rip wwe 2002-2023 merging into ufc as one company
PunkerBlast 04.12.23	Well Sami and KO did win the tag team titles as if we want to be so critical a consolation prize but that match was fantastic actually night one of WM was solid all around. Rhea Ripley beat Charlotte. I do like heels for sure. But I was sick during night two (maybe somewhat depressed) , but it seemed a lot worse. I didn't watch night two or knew after the fact. Shane came out as a surprise combatant and injured himself thank goodness Snoop was there. Finn Balor needed staples to his head live apparently to finish the match. I do feel like these Edge matches are really long and overbooked actually. And ya, then the Vince thing. I don't know. My memory is still night one of WM and it was fun though my anxiety was running high. I would still pop for Vince in 2018, heck I like Shane a lot but ehhhh, let it go man especially since the new umbrella deal.
AlexKzillion 04.12.23	night 1 was the best wrestling ppv i'd seen since all out 2021 night 2 was straight ass besides the ic triple threat. roman and cody was also a great match even if the wrong guy won also agree this edge comeback has been kinda not good, which sucks to say as such a big fan growing up. only super interesting thing he really did was the wrestlemania triple threat with roman and bryan. everything he's done not involving roman has been an overbooked mess, and i think he has straight up won every singles match he's had besides roman lmao. feel like if not for the neck injury he'd be getting the goldberg treatment from the fans right now christian has been sooooo much better in his return its not even close. really wish tk would use him more he's one of the best heels in wrestling right now
rufinthefury 04.12.23	Guess who's back Back again Vince is back Yet again
DinosaurJones 04.20.23	Who the hell does Vince think he's trying to fool? He's had gray hair since the 90s, and he starts dying it NOW? And the 'stache... ugh.
Storm In A Teacup 04.20.23	Im still trying to get over shane tearing his quad
AlexKzillion 04.20.23	matt riddle sucks
Storm In A Teacup 05.09.23	Can someone please tell me, whichever of ypu watches watchwrestling dot in do ai etc etc can you tell me the name of the classical song that always plays at the end of each video part?
Storm In A Teacup 08.25.23	RIP Bray Wyatt.
bellovddd 08.25.23	and Terry Funk! sad times all round :(
Valzentia 08.25.23	absolutely heartbroken to hear about Bray Wyatt :(
JayEnder 08.25.23	Hard RIP to Bray Wyatt and Terry Funk. Sad day for wrestling fans.
AlexKzillion 08.25.23	bray passing is so sad
JeetJeet 08.25.23	Cant believe we lost Bray wtffff RIP to him and RIP to the legend Terry Funk too.
veninblazer 08.25.23	RIP Bray
Spec 08.25.23	Feels like Eddie Guerrero again.
anat 08.25.23	this fucking sucks man. who knew the wyatt family would end up being such a tragic faction
bloc 08.25.23	The death of Wyatt is seriously shocking
rufinthefury 11.26.23	CM Punk is byke
JeetJeet 11.27.23	They always come back to the E
Get Low 01.28.24	Bailey predictably wins the women's rumble
Get Low 01.28.24	Cody wins the men's rumble over Punk, good shit
Storm In A Teacup 01.28.24	Yeah
rufinthefury 01.28.24	CODY LETS GO
Storm In A Teacup 01.28.24	Bayley winning was so awesome. Cody winning was emotionally charged. Solid ppv. Gotta slap a 4.1 on the whole show. The one 5/5 for me was the womens rumble. 4.2 for mens rumble, 3.5 for championship match, 3.8 for us championship match.
veninblazer 01.28.24	Punk should've won imo but Cody's a good choice too
Spec 01.29.24	I want to agree but Punk gets gassed after two minutes. How’s he gonna wrestle a main event quality match?
rufinthefury 01.30.24	LMAO PUNK It's like poetry it rhymes
bloc 01.31.24	I kinda feel bad for him tbh
JeetJeet 01.31.24	Punk is fucking washed and Vince is finally being exposed for the piece of shit that he is. Crazy time to be a wrestling fan rn
Get Low 01.31.24	on the contrary, I feel rather underwhelmed at the moment. none of this is surprising to me as a longtime fan
Storm In A Teacup 01.31.24	Yeah i feel ya get low. We just see the steaming pile we already smelled and we see the old man who was once young is old.
Storm In A Teacup 01.31.24	If you followed CM Punk for his career you knew these were the final days not final years. He might wrestle in 2 and 3 years but it will be a couple matches.
Storm In A Teacup 01.31.24	If he had waited one more year to go to aew he may have never been able to make however much money he has and is gonna make. Business wise he waited up until it was almost too late to cash in on his name as a full time wrestler.
Storm In A Teacup 01.31.24	He is probably going to regret all those years he could have wrestled and didnt more than these injuries.
Storm In A Teacup 01.31.24	But then again i dont know shit about him so probably off base
rufinthefury 02.01.24	I just wanna mention that it is insane how many wrestlers across all companies are getting hurt right now. We're way past an injury bug, we're at an injury plague. Anytime a storyline starts getting good someone gets hurt, it's wild.
JeetJeet 02.01.24	Wrestlers need an offseason and we all know it
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.24	Triplw H and WWE has started planning for that, hence no raw or smackdown or nxt during christmas. Rumor is it will be a month in a few years and probably two weeks this year.
Storm In A Teacup 02.01.24	They will probably implement a seperate plan as well with individual wrestlers. We cant have AJ Styles wrestle 100 matches in 2024.
rufinthefury 02.03.24	Cody buried
anotherdimension 02.03.24	I get they may be doing what's best for biz considering the dark cloud that is Vince is hanging over everyone's heads, but what's the point of Rock v. Roman? What would The Rock do with the title even if he had a shot? Or if they want to set up Roman v. Rock at WrestleMania but have Cody capture the title before then, but that seems stupid
Storm In A Teacup 02.03.24	The ending of smackdown completely halted all my excitement and i give up
Get Low 02.03.24	"Wrestlers need an offseason and we all know it" WWE needs to do away with house shows like, decades ago
rufinthefury 02.03.24	Fuck the Rock
Storm In A Teacup 02.03.24	Yeah for real. Now we know why the rumors of wwe was trying to get rock vs roman at crown jewel. Cuz rock had the power and gall to take it away from Cody.
Storm In A Teacup 02.03.24	Cody broke half a second before leaving the ring. You know this broke his heart.
ReefaJones 02.03.24	dude shat on her head wtf
SlothcoreSam 02.09.24	Coming out of that conference it looks like Cody v Roman and HHH v the Rock at WM. Hear me out. The Rock goes all angry heel boss, the kickoff panel kept on referring to him as everyone's boss, and somehow inserts himself into a match with the legit injured Seth in the opening match at elimination chamber and wins the title. Only for HHH to then insert himself into the chamber, last minute kicking out Dirty Dom, and winning it and a shot at the Rock. The following Raw, triple H gets fired from his chief content officer role for abusing his power, replaced by Paul Heyman, but is still able to wrestle the Rock, with a stipulation, if he loses he leaves WWE, witch he will lose, he needs a break from the company, and WWE need to distance themselves from anything McMahon So at WrestleMania The Rock wins and Roman wins, starting a new era of a heelish family running the whole company. Both Roman and the Rock wrestle a part time schedule winning their matched against the likes of Ricochet, Sami Z, K Owens, Jey Uso, etc. Cody, and Seth will get buried for the whole year until the next WrestleMania, where Cody will finally beat Roman. Also at next year's rumble, Stone Cold is a surprise entrant and wins setting up a dream match with the Rock at WM41, for one last dance.
JayEnder 02.09.24	Rock turning heel after the Cody burial is honestly best case scenario. Would love to see Hollywood Rock make a comeback All this crazy shit going on with Vince though has soured my love for wrestling lately, barely been keeping up with any of it these days apart from Jim Cornette's podcast lol.
rufinthefury 02.09.24	WWE successfully saves itself from itself lol. but seriously I loved that press scrum, I was thoroughly sports entertained. Heel Rock and Heel Roman vs Cody, what a timeline. An unnecessary timeline that they fucked with for no reason, but hey it works
Storm In A Teacup 02.09.24	Yeah. At least it is a B+ storyline.
Storm In A Teacup 02.10.24	Found a Bo Dallas youtube channel he startrd this week...uh... yeah.. https://youtu.be/6M8YeLLDrQc?si=0i4u8uQSCZj0qXXE

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