SomeSayShesNaive: Important and Essential Music

Frippertronics 07.07.15	damn it's like you got the top 50 from the genre rankings and Allmusic's 5/5s
SomeSayShesNaive 07.07.15	Right, I forgot that none of these were important or even good. Sputnik's user rating must be complete full of shit.
BMDrummer 07.07.15	some of these are really good
climactic 07.07.15	"I believe these 99 albums give a basic broad understanding for those who want to study and truly comprehend music in all of its forms." 5 classical albums, 2 blues albums, 3 jazz albums, and virtually no music from outside of north america/europe...... but...... 20+ metal albums, 3 gorillaz albums, and fucking sean paul
climactic 07.07.15	O.K.
theBoneyKing 07.07.15	damn it's like you got the top 50 from the genre rankings and Allmusic's 5/5s [2] And three Gorillaz albums??? Please. Truth is there should be no doubles by any artists in a list like this.
SomeSayShesNaive 07.07.15	Have I failed?
SomeSayShesNaive 07.07.15	I got probably 60% of these picks from top rankings, but not this site. I'll be honest, Rate My Music and Sput opened up a lot of new albums for me to use, though a good amount of these have personal favorites for decades. I've used this list for quite a while. We discuss individual songs all the time, but these are the albums I tell them to study in full length. For the whole 20+ metal thing...I only do that because 99% of my students have never heard more than fifteen seconds of metal and they usually scrunch it into a single genre when it's arguably the most diverse genre out there.
theBoneyKing 07.07.15	I mean there are a lot of essential albums here, but there is definitely a lot more that needs to be covered to make it a holistic look at music.
Frippertronics 07.07.15	You seriously got these from the top 20 or so rankings by decade, there's no other way they'd be in here. edit: nvm you did
treeqt. 07.07.15	http://i.imgur.com/khlXxuZ.png
Gestapo 07.07.15	u tell them to study green day
SomeSayShesNaive 07.07.15	American Idiot, yes, or there'd be no pop punk here. Shit genre but it's an easy to study album.
treeqt. 07.07.15	hey you 1-4 are not albums you re welcome
Frippertronics 07.07.15	you need Swagbob
Gestapo 07.07.15	u tell them to study cryptopsy
SomeSayShesNaive 07.07.15	Haha yah, 57 is among the first I introduce to the class simply because most youngings jammed it on their iPods while walking to my class.
SomeSayShesNaive 07.07.15	Yes, None So Vile is probably the most death metal album ever made. It perfectly sums up the entire genre in one album. Also, it's funny to hear the reactions the next day in class. I always love that.
Supercoolguy64 07.07.15	surpriesed to see 82, isnt that like a joke album or something?
SomeSayShesNaive 07.07.15	More or less. 82 is a greatest hits compilation by a questionable band, but I've met the infamous Eric(a) Dapkewicz himself plenty of times, so saying "this album is actually by a good friend" gets the students fairly interested. It also showcases all of the progressions the band has gone through, including prog rock, trip hop, gothic, electronic, IDM, alternative rock, and ambient, making it an intriguing collection. It's got some genueinly great tunes, too. Most of the kids universally agree that certain songs are very good.
Dryden 07.07.15	fucking
Thibs 07.07.15	I'm open for questions.
Relinquished 07.07.15	I'm open to burn this list
wtferrothorn 07.07.15	Burn it to the ground
yep123 07.07.15	cover it with gas and set it on fire
Deathconscious 07.07.15	you make your students listen to Death, Nails, and Burzum...god tier teacher right there.
idontcareaboutthis 07.07.15	a decent list with this concept would have at least 200 albums list is missing a lot unbalanced genres, way too much rock/metal lots of these are not very important (todd terje, seriously?)
idontcareaboutthis 07.07.15	maybe he was a little extreme but his point was valid
JS19 07.07.15	This is like if you asked an 18 year old on the Dream Theater forums what he thought represented all music ever
Flugmorph 07.07.15	Lol this list and 85
JS19 07.07.15	Those 4 classical ****albums**** sure do sum up almost 600 years of constantly changing music from around the world
JS19 07.07.15	Even they're all western styles of music tbh. A list would have to be 500 long to even touch on the varying styles of music culturally and historically worldwide
treeqt. 07.07.15	sonorism and minimalism aren't really western anyway if you're not being extremely pedantic you can easily do western music history in 100 albums just gotta be willing to leave out things of minor importance despite major acclaim
altertide0 07.07.15	this list implies that progressive rock alone is more important than classical or jazz lol not mentioning the whole rock music
altertide0 07.07.15	also missing trout mask replica the best rock album
Inferis 07.07.15	not arguing with 99
barcafan21 07.07.15	lol i was not ready for those 3 gorillaz albums
JS19 07.07.15	sonorism and minimalism aren't really western Where would you say they originate from then tree?
FlyheadMetal 07.07.15	the metal is cool lol, my music teacher hated metal and never let me participate in fun music friday lmao, true story...he thought metallica was innapropriete for class and i wanted to play tuesdays gone from garage inc, lol yah
FlyheadMetal 07.07.15	seriosuly fuck that guy, he'd tell the class to "bring music nobody has ever heard before" and then he'd say "todd, no speed death screamo" and id be like "that doesn't even exist lol"
SomeSayShesNaive 07.07.15	Todd, that is exactly why I share metal with my students. 99% of the music professors I've worked with are unlikable pricks who only share classical and pop, maybe diving into jazz for a lesson before resurfacing back up to pop. Metal is a diverse genre, among the most diverse out there.
SomeSayShesNaive 07.07.15	And a sincere fuck you to 90% of you plebeians.
treeqt. 07.07.15	sonorism originated from communism west and thus is obviously not western and minimalism kind of already existed in for example indian and african music before the new york memers experimented with it it would be fair to consider everything associable to the hot term that is western art music western music but to me the advent of all those hot -isms during the mid 20th century marks the transition of western art music into global art music
cleanpeter 07.07.15	81 is 81
theBoneyKing 07.07.15	To all the metalheads out there: Yes, metal is extremely diverse, but if one simply does not like the foundations of what defines metal, they are almost certainly not going to like any type of metal. But is it really any more diverse than any other genre? Sure, there are about a billion different subgenres of metal that have names, but all genres have a ton of subgenres, they just aren't all necessarily given particular names. To lump all metal together is stupid, but again if you don't like metal in general, introducing people to 20 different subgenres isn't going to make a significant difference.
Valkyrion 07.07.15	metal is not the most diverse genre, that goes to electronic music. it also has a very peculiar sound and aesthetic that not everyone is going to like / grow to appreciate.
treeqt. 07.07.15	metal is by far the least diverse genre tbh
theBoneyKing 07.07.15	Idk I don't like metal but I will agree that it is pretty diverse. Although that diversity is defined a lot by lyrics, more so than other genres' diversities are
Valkyrion 07.07.15	das true
Feather 07.07.15	lol 3 Gorillaz albums..
SomeSayShesNaive 07.07.15	Metal is extremely diverse and anyone who disagrees is simply a stubborn fuck. I really wouldn't really consider myself a metalhead, but anyone with ears can hear VAST differences in practically every sub sub sub genre in metal. And most metal is not simply diversified by lyrics, usually it's the exact opposite.
SomeSayShesNaive 07.07.15	Quite clearly, ma'am.
theBoneyKing 07.07.15	Maybe I'm just a stubborn ignorant fuck too then.
SomeSayShesNaive 07.07.15	My ratings aren't private...you can check them...
treeqt. 07.07.15	neither is this list ;) ;)
SomeSayShesNaive 07.07.15	Nice one, sir. For fucks sake, 11% metal in my pie chart.
treeqt. 07.07.15	looking at the 5s is always sufficient
SomeSayShesNaive 07.07.15	11% metal 12% jazz 20% hip-hop 10% rock 10% progressive rock 13% electronica 12% psychedelic 10% experimental Or something like that. Something tells me that doesn't add up right but those are the right genres on my chart.
Frippertronics 07.07.15	replace all 99 of these with 0% please and thank you
Valkyrion 07.07.15	agree
Valkyrion 07.07.15	but for real I love metal, but I'd hardly call it the most diverse (or dynamic) genre a lot of it is really derivative and stuck up on genre conventions and tradition
treeqt. 07.07.15	pop 100% i win
SomeSayShesNaive 07.07.15	pop and classical
worthlessscab 07.08.15	the shaggs are the only important group
SomeSayShesNaive 07.08.15	The ban action on this site is a complete joke.
Ocean of Noise 07.08.15	lmao you guys are all so bitter this is an ok list, seems kinda sputcore-heavy for its intended purpose though
treeqt. 07.08.15	maybe you're wrong though
Dylan620 07.08.15	I'll just break the flow of negative comments to say that there is a LOT of great stuff here (7 through 13, 15, 16, 18, 20, 24, 26, 35, 40, 54, 65, 66, 70, 71, 74, 80, 81, 84, 95, and especially huge kudos for 86 because that's my favorite album of all time).
treeqt. 07.08.15	maybe you're wrong though [2]
FlyheadMetal 07.08.15	12-23 is awesome
FlyheadMetal 07.08.15	hey that is me! lol how do you do that?! haha
Feather 07.08.15	this list is boring and would lead your students to have boring taste
TheSonomaDude 08.07.15	Now this is some bullshit. I appreciate a music theory teacher adding metal and rap into their curriculum, but trying to squeeze all the different sounds of music into 99 albums is impossible. To do this justice would require a minimum of 500 albums. The metal stuff on here is awesome though, I'll say that.
Ocean of Noise 08.07.15	there's a lot of awesome shit here
TheSonomaDude 03.08.16	Can I submit this to a cringe compilation?
hal1ax 03.08.16	didn't dev disclose the fact that somesayshesnaive is a flyhead alt, right after he banned flyhead? so what.. he is just conversing with himself throughout this thread? lol
TheSonomaDude 03.08.16	FlyheadMetal 07.07.15 seriosuly fuck that guy, he'd tell the class to "bring music nobody has ever heard before" and then he'd say "todd, no speed death screamo" and id be like "that doesn't even exist lol" SomeSayShesNaive 07.07.15 Todd, that is exactly why I share metal with my students. 99% of the music professors I've worked with are unlikable pricks who only share classical and pop, maybe diving into jazz for a lesson before resurfacing back up to pop. Metal is a diverse genre, among the most diverse out there.
TheSonomaDude 03.08.16	How would he even know his real name, what a fucking dumbass.
onionbubs 03.08.16	great list m8. limp bizkit is very important and essential...
StallionMang 03.08.16	i mean im not even in college and i could come up with a better list than this
Spacesh1p 03.08.16	87 is a surprise inclusion.
Ryus 06.13.20	good list
Snake. 07.31.21	god damn 2015 was a dark time
Ryus 07.31.21	actually the worst list of all time
parksungjoon 07.31.21	its bad yeah
Snake. 07.31.21	'infamous for hating Obscura-era Gorguts' will be forever etched into classic sputnik lore tho
parksungjoon 07.31.21	>82 is a greatest hits compilation by a questionable band, but I've met the infamous Eric(a) Dapkewicz himself plenty of times what did he mean by this
Ryus 07.31.21	I believe these 99 albums give a basic broad understanding for those who want to study and truly comprehend music in all of its forms.
Snake. 07.31.21	82 doesn't even have an entry on rym lol
parksungjoon 07.31.21	the band is actually referenced on sonypicturesanimation.com >A musician and composer, she’s also in an independent band called, “Imaginarius.” i dont know what the fuck hes talking about with >the infamous Eric(a) Dapkewicz himself
Ryus 07.31.21	does it even exist the first result is the fuckin sput page
parksungjoon 07.31.21	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzghn27cGnA
Snake. 07.31.21	the first google result is the sput page and it has four entries on lists on this site and people still think i'm crazy to think that sonoma used this site to create a commune of alts
parksungjoon 07.31.21	i dont relaly know who he is tbh but at least two of their albums have reviews lol
sixdegrees 07.31.21	https://www.sputnikmusic.com/profile.php?memberid=1102434 ?
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parksungjoon 07.22.23	lol
Snake. 07.23.23	ugh