sadchild: Post Hardcore

ricardohrr 12.28.14	I see a great number of bands here that are not Post-Hardcore bands
ricardohrr 12.28.14	Bands like Saosin, Senses Fail, MCR, AFI...
Flugmorph 12.28.14	defeater
Flugmorph 12.28.14	sadchild is sad haha
sadchild 12.28.14	Since my favorite band reunites I'm quite happy now :]
Flugmorph 12.28.14	who is it? also props for bastion guy
Flugmorph 12.28.14	ok bruh will wait for it u lurker
wwba 12.28.14	21 is metalcore (at it's finest) 16 is prog rock 11 is a trancecore album (actually THE trancecore album since it was the first album to sound like this) 7 is progressive metal with elements from hardcore
DoctorDoom 12.28.14	Respectfully disagree on 21, WWBA. Also, trance core is the most ridiculous and horrifying sub-genre I've ever heard of. I actually feel stupid even typing it.
Arbrathe 12.28.14	props on 16. check out Dayshell, Counterparts or Stolas
Cygnatti 12.28.14	Check a better genre pls
Flugmorph 12.29.14	post hardcore is great at times. check deathcore
Slut 12.29.14	Check some math rock
deathschool 12.29.14	Ugh
VinVal 12.29.14	trophy scars duh
Flugmorph 12.29.14	Ok deathcore is the worst thing ever happened i admit
Lethean 12.29.14	check deathcore
reportingbird 12.29.14	check beloved
Artuma 12.29.14	ctrl+f fugazi => 0 results shame on you sputnik. shame on you with that said, check fugazi
Lethean 12.29.14	fugazi is on the list
Pajolero 12.29.14	http://www.dischord.com/bands
Dummit 12.29.14	Poison the well /list
chinesewhispers 12.29.14	if you haven't yet, check these p-hxc classics, though they might be a bit different from what you're used to At The Drive In - Relationship of Command Fugazi - The Argument Refused - The Shape of Punk to Come Unwound - Leaves Turn Inside You (if you have 70 minutes, this should blow your fucking mind)
sadchild 12.29.14	2wwba disagree on every statement. 16 is more like SOAD + DGD + lotsa drugs, and sounds more like post-hadcore/nu-metal experimental hybrid; lets not invent alot of subgenres to 11, T2TS are post-hadcore + electronics. Protest The Hero do pretty unique music hard to classify, but they remind me much more ofpost-hardcore than raw hardcore. 2Arbrathe Stoals are fine, Counterparts are fine too but sounds more likehardcore/screamo to me, will check 3rd band later. 2elbaliem Listened to them, slightly above average to me. 2Dummit I tried, but I can't :( I saw alot of recomendations and listened to 3 or 4 albums, but I cant get em :( 2chinesewhispers At The Drive In - Relationship of Command. Yeah, 4.4 album rating, but they did not impressed me. No, they are good, but not THAT good. Fugazi - The Argument. Just listened to them. After listening first half minute of the album I thought I misclicked and listening to RHCP. They are more rock than punk or hardcore. Either way decent one. Refused - The Shape of Punk to Come. Heard that, great stuff. Unwound - Leaves Turn Inside You. I will find 70 minutes ;)
Artuma 12.29.14	"After listening first half minute of the album I thought I misclicked and listening to RHCP" you were listening to their least punk-ish album and the only song having rhcp sounding vox, check red medicine
sadchild 12.29.14	It was not even vox issue, instrumets were sounding like some subgenre of rock like prog or even funk cause of heavy bass usage. Will give 'em another chance in a while.
Havey 12.29.14	lol
Artuma 12.29.14	i'm pretty sure havey hasn't liked any post-hxc album since 1995 or so
Avagantamos 12.29.14	fugazi
Artuma 12.29.14	"At The Drive In - Relationship of Command. Yeah, 4.4 album rating, but they did not impressed me" actually i take my words back. don't check red medicine, you don't deserve to do that
adr 12.29.14	NoMeansNo - Wrong
Chortles 12.29.14	i would give up probably
sadchild 12.29.14	>>actually i take my words back. don't check red medicine, you don't deserve to do that Hah tnx man, will do that asap :]
Mort. 12.31.14	id call 11 metalcore tbh tho it sorta straddles the line between metalcore and post hardcore
Pheromone 12.31.14	11 is post hardcore mort
Mort. 12.31.14	nerd dont fight me over this
Pheromone 12.31.14	i dont want to fight u, u just arent right
Mort. 12.31.14	ooooooooh bitch i dunno man mothership, energizer and labyrinth have always given off a metalcore vibe to me while sorry and no sssweat give off a post hardcore feel. cant decide for others. like i said, it sorta falls between both to me
Pheromone 12.31.14	i like the one with the electronics and the screams and the facial hair
sadchild 01.28.15	Took a break from all the metalcore recs (tons of 'em really) and listen to some xpxhxcx mentioned here. So: Unwound - Leaves Turn Inside You. Basically same as Fugazi, more rock than punk/hardcore. Yeah, its good, but not what I am looking for. At The Drive In - Relationship Of Command re-listen. Lol. I dunno what I was listen it with before, but it sounds much better than I remember. Maybe I wasn't into this kind of phc when I listened to it first time. The only issue with it: I wanted to turn off lead guitarist at some moments. This fella completely ignore his bandmates and keep abusing high strings. Overall pretty awesome album. So yeah, I'm looking for a new stuff. Added Dayshell and Nomeansno into checklist, will be glad to hear new recs similar to what I already have on list.
Artuma 01.28.15	ok check these: mewithoutyou - catch for us the foxes state faults - resonate/desperate the saddest landscape - you will not survive also if la dispute is the only the wave band you've heard then check the other three as well, you should dig em
sadchild 01.28.15	Well yeah, so what I am NOT looking for: - 'Influental' prog rock (Fugazi, Unwound). Maybe influenced several phc bands but sounds nowhere near phc. - Whiny indie pseudo phc like Circa Survive. La Dispute is more an exception than a tendency. But you can still try tho. - Crabcore / autotunecore / genericcore / post repetitive quack chug.
Artuma 01.28.15	my recs don't fall in any of those categories. also lol @ fugazi and unwound being prog rock
MuhNamesTyler 01.28.15	Closure in Moscow - First Temple
sadchild 01.28.15	As I said before, I can't hear any phc into Fugazi. Maybe it was grown into early 00's phc somehow, but I can't recognize bands like Fugazi/Unwound as phc. Noise rock/prog rock/whatever ROCK, not punk. Like, I am not pretending to be a music historian, but anyway it's not what I am after. Anyway, added your recs. >>Closure in Moscow - First Temple No russians plz.
betray 01.28.15	brand new - your favorite weapon suicide silence - the cleansing revocation - deathless
Artuma 01.28.15	post-hardcore is a very broad genre, fugazi sure isn't anything like the ones on the list. also i think your view of what is 'punk' is way too narrow. why wouldn't fugazi be punk?
MuhNamesTyler 01.28.15	"No Russians plz" Lol it's just the name of the band dude. They are actually from Australia
PappyMason 01.28.15	I reckon Lower Definition - The Greatest of All Lost Arts, would be right up your alley.
MuhNamesTyler 01.28.15	[2]
PappyMason 01.28.15	^ Yeh, I haven't listened to that album in ages but I remember getting it back in school and thinking it was awesome. It wasn't that inventive or anything (its pretty hard to be nowadays...) but it was done really well.
MuhNamesTyler 01.28.15	Yeah album still jams
sadchild 01.28.15	>>why wouldn't fugazi be punk In case of Fugazi, imo they have slow paced instrumentals, apathetic vocals, complete lack of catchiness. I told it before, I won't repeat it: they are not bad, just not in my taste. >>Lol it's just the name of the band dude. They are actually from Australia I know man, just joking. >>suicide silence - the cleansing totally post hardcore brah
Artuma 01.28.15	"they have slow paced instrumentals" punk isn't allowed to have such? "apathetic vocals, complete lack of catchiness" well those are just opinions. they have nothing to do with if it's punk or not
sadchild 01.28.15	>>punk isn't allowed to have such? "Punk bands typically use short or fast-paced songs, with hard-edged melodies and singing styles, stripped-down instrumentation, and often political, anti-establishment lyrics" - wiki. So I heavily accosiate 'punk' with word 'fast'. Yeah, its just an opinion. But lets end Fugazi dispute. I dont wanna convince anyone, lets just skip similar music in recs. Thanks.
Snake. 01.28.15	"At The Drive In - Relationship of Command. Yeah, 4.4 album rating, but they did not impressed me" how
sadchild 01.28.15	Idk mait. Check my first today post. ...daaancing on the corpses' aaasheees....
VheissuCrisis 01.28.15	The Fall of Troy. Hot Cross. Night Verses.
OwMySnauze 01.28.15	Lower Definition
Angelboros 01.28.15	Hot Water Music - Fuel for the Hate Game
Mort. 01.28.15	Down i go - Gods Check their vid for poseidon as a taster Hot Cross - Cryonics jacobi wichita - bonez malones
Royl123 01.28.15	Slint...
Scoot 01.28.15	their moths ep is great too
sadchild 01.29.15	A Lot Like Birds, Stolas, Emarosa, Of Machines, In Fear And Faith, Hail The Sun, The Venetia Fair - already heard. Added rest into checklist, tnx guys.
sadchild 01.30.15	Here we go, feedback #1: Dayshell - Dayshell. Was expecting much more horrific stuff when I saw ex-of mice & men member in description. But it turns to be ok. Lower Definition - The Greatest of All Lost Arts. Basicly PappyMason describes it pretty accurate: not inventive but done well. NoMeansNo - Wrong. Right. There was some fun shit that days. Mewithoutyou - Catch For Us The Foxes. I suspect nothing wierd of that, but some time after starting listen to this piece I found myself sitting on a windowsill, drinking vanilla coffee, staring into the rain and thinking about her... Well, I exaggerate a bit, but that was cheesy. Ok instrumentals, tolerable vocals, girly lyrics. And I wanna point on one more issue: separate tracks/vids recs are highly welcome, format like band - album (lead single) is even more awesome than just band - album. Cheers Mort.
betray 01.30.15	stoooolllllllasssssssssss
Artuma 01.30.15	mewithoutyou's lyrics are 'girly' and 'cheesy?' i want what you're smoking
sadchild 01.30.15	>>stoooolllllllasssssssssss liiiiisssstennnnnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeedddddddddd >>i want what you're smoking plaster. You are funny fella, Artuma. You rec me heaviest metalcore and lightest phc and than: "Oh, Rorschach is too heavy for you", "Oh, mewithoutyou is cheesy for you", lol, balance your recs a bit ;D
betray 01.30.15	the amity affliction
Artuma 01.30.15	expand your taste and rorschach won't be too heavy anymore. also, i really don't get how you can call mewithoutyou cheesy, especially when i see what you have on the list
Thibs 01.30.15	check beloved [2]
YakNips 01.30.15	apparitionist
Snake. 01.30.15	HOPESFALL
betray 01.30.15	specifically severed ties and youngbloods for phxc two newest albums are more metalcore
sadchild 01.30.15	>>the amity affliction I was probably listened to them a bit, can't say i enjoy em. Will some more prolly. >>check beloved [2] checked. ok. >>HOPESFALL already @ metalcore list. >>apparitionist Similar bands: ..., Fugazi, Unwound, ... Heh, will try mait, will try...
betray 01.30.15	yeah definitely do that they're the best band ever
sadchild 01.30.15	Kai, will try Youngbloods. >>expand your taste and rorschach won't be too heavy anymore. also, i really don't get how you can call mewithoutyou cheesy, especially when i see what you have on the list Rorschach was not the heaviest band I ever heard obviously. You know... vocals... As for 'catch us foxes' - i said, I overdo a bit. I just remember similar album by another band, you will literally puke pink after a listen. I can not remember exact band/album names, but I remember band name was relatively short and some chick staring at mirror at album cover. If anyone have any guesses - let me know, I wanna 1 that shit.
Snake. 01.30.15	"I remember band name was relatively short and some chick staring at mirror at album cover." alesana?
sadchild 01.30.15	Lol no
Artuma 01.30.15	alesana deserves a 1 tho
Mort. 01.30.15	"Cheers Mort" No probs bro. Did you like any of the recs?
Lethean 01.30.15	drive like jehu
Artuma 01.31.15	hahaha he will be disgusted by drive like jehu
sadchild 01.31.15	>>No probs bro. Did you like any of the recs? I haven't listen to your recs yet tbh, I just started to checking phc recs only these 4 yesterday/today. But that vid you mention was pretty fun so I'll push your recs up in queue. >>alesana deserves a 1 tho no >>hahaha he will be disgusted by drive like jehu Let me remind you that I'm a slowpoke a bit, so I might get into a band long time after a first listen (examples: Alexisonfire, The Bled, Emery, now ATDI). So even if I am not paying enough attention after first try it _might_ grow later.
YakNips 01.31.15	wait actually listen to baton rouge i dont think its possible for a human to not enjoy them
Slut 01.31.15	why wouldn't fugazi be punk In case of Fugazi, imo they have slow paced instrumentals, apathetic vocals, complete lack of catchiness. I told it before, I won't repeat it: they are not bad, just not in my taste. Did a human actually say this????
Artuma 01.31.15	"wait actually listen to baton rouge i dont think its possible for a human to not enjoy them" yes yes yes yes yes
sadchild 02.02.15	Feedback part #2: Down I Go - Gods. This shit is crazy. Already waiting for the upcoming album. Ending to 'Poseidon' is 1337/420. Hot Cross - Cryonics. Good. Wish there'd be more cleans, which are awesome. State Faults - Resonate/Desperate. Youtube didn't let me check the whole album, but from what I hear it's ok. Noted. The Saddest Landscape - You Will Not Survive. Actully cool stuff. Not in a mood for it now, but might check more later. Jacobi Wichita - Bonez Malone. More diverse sound than Lower Definition/Dayshell. The Fall Of Troy - Doppelganger. Finally something sounding somewhat similar to Protest The Hero. Check further. - marked bands are more hardcore/screamo for me. I'm not sure but I might go for a separate list for this (sub)genre, so hold up screamo stuff.
Artuma 02.02.15	i will be your best friend in that thread
Ryus 02.02.15	http://www.sputnikmusic.com/list.php?memberid=1037980&listid=152688
YakNips 02.02.15	please dont make a screamo list
sadchild 02.02.15	Lol Artuma you're already my best friend :D
Hopelust 02.02.15	Man so many of these were on my discman rotation in 12th grade.
Artuma 02.02.15	"Lol Artuma you're already my best friend" ur not mine sorry
YakNips 02.02.15	;] ;];]
ShitsofRain 02.02.15	you should really expand your taste (((imo)))
JokineAugustus 02.02.15	check discharge
betray 02.02.15	after all every1 knows that me and artuma are bffs
Ryus 02.02.15	fo real
sadchild 02.06.15	Feedback part #3: Closure in Moscow - First Temple. Post-popcore. In a good way. Pretty easy listen. Noted. Night Verses - Lift Your Existence. Probably the best genericore I ever heard. Baton Rouge - Totem. Nice one, even despite the band is french. Good job, baguettes, good job. Amity Affliction - Youngbloods. After two songs my ears started bleeding then i went to band page to check similarities and ratings and now my eyes are bleeding halpme
sadchild 02.10.15	Feedback part #4: Hot Water Music - Fuel For The Hate Game. Vocals remind me of Alexisonfire a bit. This fellas' sound is pretty unique, so might check more recent albums. I, The Mighty - Satori. Now this is the best genericore album I ever heard. At least they try to do something different like acoustic tracks or guest fem vocals. Lady Radiator - Bounce Energy Hear Me Out . Good. Can't say much more tho. Secrets - Fragile Figures. No. Amity Affliction-like templatecore. Avoid at all costs. Sainthood Reps - Headswell. Yeah, some interesting grunge notes in there. Noted. The Receiving End Of Sirens - Between The Heart And The Synapse. Drive Like Jehu - Yank Crime. Heh, Akel- Artuma missed, this sounds much more punkish than Fugazi/Unwound, and, accordingly, I enjoy this much more.
Artuma 02.10.15	if you want more french stuff check these: daitro - laisser vivre les squelettes sed non satiata - s/t the hectic dull sound - shivering chimes amanda woodward - la decadence de la decadence anomie - discographie aussitot mort - montuenga these are more skramz but w/e
Artuma 02.10.15	"this sounds much more punkish than Fugazi/Unwound" they are all 100% punk (except for maybe later unwound) so dunno what you're on about with this
sadchild 02.19.15	So while I'm trying to find recs I might miss in these comments, I just add He Is Legend onto the list. Can someone rec me good southerncore like HIL or Maylene? Excluding The Almost, they suck.
Snake. 02.19.15	">>alesana deserves a 1 tho no" yeah
sadchild 02.19.15	facepalm
Artuma 02.19.15	really tho, check the other wave bands besides la dispute too (touche amore, defeater, pianos become the teeth)
Snake. 02.19.15	check departures and more than life (their first album only tho)
demigod! 02.19.15	check shellac n polvo
Lethean 02.19.15	when are you gonna make a screamo list cuz i'm gonna load u the fuck up
Artuma 02.19.15	shellac isn't really his thing i know
sadchild 02.19.15	>>when are you gonna make a screamo list cuz i'm gonna load u the fuck up I don't think it would happen soon, I simply don't have enough bands to put in it, probably Departures anda few more. I listened to Touche amore, PBTT, can't remember Defeater tho, but will check it rather sooner. As I wrote before, I'm onto He Is Legend/Every Time I Die/TDEP now, so I'd like recs like these ones. Also queued what I didn't heard.
sadchild 03.02.15	Feedback part #5: Shellac - 1000 Hurts. More like noise rock. Polvo - Exploded Drawing. Surprisingly, more like noise rock. Slint - Spiderland. You won't believe me, but this sounds more like noise rock. Apparitionist - White Noise. Half-hour of '43% Burnt' would be easier than this. Even despite the fact that this album is NOISE ROCK some 'glass scratching' 'riffs' didn't sound bearable at all. Defeater - Travels. Not noise rock. Hooray. Will be good for melodic hardcore / screamo list. Decent one, noticed. The Receiving End Of Sirens - Between The Heart And The Synapse. Just figured out that I haven't described it at all :D So what am I gonna tell you about this one? Hmmm... I dunno, but I can certanly state that this is not noise rock.
sadchild 03.02.15	So can someone rec me good southerncore bands? Anyone?
Artuma 03.02.15	lost ground ep is better than travels but both are really fucking good also lol who rec'd that bmdrummer album
betray 03.02.15	lost ground and travels are close and id throw empty/sleepless in there too
Mort. 03.02.15	"So can someone rec me good southerncore bands? Anyone?" The Jonbenet - The Plot Thickens Specifically the song "behold the white whore"
Ryus 03.02.15	"Apparitionist - White Noise. Half-hour of '43% Burnt' would be easier than this. Even despite the fact that this album is NOISE ROCK some 'glass scratching' 'riffs' didn't sound bearable at all." u dissin BMDrummer's project smh
stuck_in_decades 03.02.15	For southerncore, check Radiation Year's 'Age of the Everglades'. Oh, and maybe you'll like Circus Circus' 'Brooklyn Nightlife'.
MuhNamesTyler 03.02.15	Check early Memphis May Fire for southerncore. First ep and lp are pre good Lp has the most southern influence, really fun album. Band turned genericore after it tho so don't bother with anything past that
sadchild 03.03.15	K maits, will check. And what's bmdrummer?
MuhNamesTyler 03.03.15	He's a user on the site
betray 03.03.15	"Check early Memphis May Fire" fuck yea sleepwalking rules kinda wish they stayed with that sound in a way
MuhNamesTyler 03.03.15	Same dude I was pretty disappointed when they ditched that sound. Somebody on here said that they changed up cause the songs came so effortlessly to them it just wasn't challenging anymore. Sounds like bs to me but whatever
betray 03.03.15	ha so they wanted a challenger u say???
MuhNamesTyler 03.03.15	Lols ya I realized that after I typed it
sadchild 03.03.15	>>He's a user on the site Oh, well, I should've been provided more complex feedback in this case, but that album sounds very far from what I enjoy, so I simply unable, sorry.
sadchild 03.06.15	Feedback part #6: Memphis May Fire - Sleepwalking. Overall it's decent, vocals are ok, can't say instrumentals are bad too, but still lacking personality and catchy moments. Good one, but nothing more to say about em. Radiation Year's - Age Of The Everglades. There was only 1 studio track by em on youtube, the rest were live performances. They should be ok, and it would be nice if someone would upload that album. The Jonbenet - The Plot Thickens. Teaser track was ok, the rest is just some chaotic stuff which reminds of HeavyHeavyLowLow or #12. Circus Circus - Brooklyn Nightlife. This was really intense, I honestly did not expect that. I'd like to say 'check further', but it's the band only release.
MuhNamesTyler 03.06.15	What dude sleepwalking oozes hooks. I thought it was catchy as fuck
sadchild 03.06.15	Nah, all the songs sound the same for me. Basically same as Lower Definition/Recieving End/Jacobi Wichita/..., overall good, but without any bright or outstanding moments. For example, from the very recent digs: check Destrage's Neverending Mary or Jade's Place. Or ETID's Wanderlust / Revival Mode. I can say these songs are filled with catchy moments. Instead MMF(LD/TREOS/...) is a jelly. Edible, but nothing more.
stuck_in_decades 03.06.15	There's another release by Circus Circus called Hut Hut Hike, but it's kind of meh. They also released two seperate songs a while ago in honor of their guitarist who passed away, (http://soundcloud.com/evanmd/sets/the-life-and-times-of-justin-e) they're pretty good. I could upload Radiation Year's Age Of The Everglades if you want.
KILL 03.06.15	husker du :D
Artuma 03.06.15	when i saw the "Post Hardcore by KILL" in the front page i thought 'if his comment isn't husker du then i'm on the wrong site'
KILL 03.06.15	i was the first turd to mention em too imagine if i wasnt here omg
MuhNamesTyler 03.06.15	Check this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv1bBrkh-m4
sadchild 03.06.15	>> I could upload Radiation Year's Age Of The Everglades if you want. Would be cool mait. >>husker du :D okai :D >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv1bBrkh-m4 Sounds good. Will check em out too.
Solbrave 03.07.15	nomeansno - wrong [2]
metalheadrunner 03.07.15	If you like Thursday, check out Akissforjersey's [I] Keep Your Head Above The Water [/I] and [I] New Bodies [/I]
metalheadrunner 03.07.15	Edit: the italics code didn't work, ignore the random I's.
sadchild 03.08.15	2Solbrave NoMeansNo - Wrong. Right. There was some fun shit that days. [2] 2metalheadrunner You can just press 'edit' and delete that tags instead of writing a new message :] As for your rec, most likely I listened to their new album, will try their first.
sadchild 03.17.15	Feedback part #7: Radiation Year - Age of the Everglades. I like it. Good vocal and instrumental variety, will check the rest. Akissforjersey - Victims. Good one, yet nothing like Thursday tbh. Husker Du - Zen Arcade. Yeah, more punk, less noise. 55 minutes long punk album (70 with instrumental outro) is already an interesting fact since other bands of same/neighbor genre usually make much shorter records. Dual vox, occasional solos and audible bass improve overall score, however NoMeansNo was funnier.
sadchild 03.17.15	And one more, before moving to metalcore recs. Currently I'm listening to Circus Circus much more than I expected, so if someone knows anything similar to 'Brooklyn Nightlife' in terms of vocals style or guitars sound, please let me know.
stuck_in_decades 03.17.15	Although more punk than post-hardcore and not as ''heavy'', The Letters Organize's ''Dead Rhythm Machine'' comes to mind. Oh, and you might like Duck Duck Goose's ''Noise, Noise and more Noise''.
sadchild 03.25.15	Feedback part #8: The Letters Organize - Dead Rhythm Machine. Some high octane punx out there. Duck Duck Goose - Noise, Noise And More Noise. Chaos, chaos and more chaos. Gladly it's not mess, mess and more mess. Has its momets. I Am Committing A Sin - Grow Past Their Promises. Actually pretty cool stuff, sadly nothing more to check.
MuhNamesTyler 03.25.15	yea sucks they broke up